2023 Week 3 Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They Around the NFL podcast feels like the game it's
slowing down for them. From the Chris Wessel podcast video
It's Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansi's heroes here,
Greg Rosendal, Mark Sessler. It is the Week three preview show.

(00:23):
I mean, isn't it funny? It's already starting to pick
up momentum this season.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I was waiting for the first time this season when
Dan said, it just goes so fast. It just keeps
going a lot does the season. We're here week one
through twelve like a flash.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Weeks thirteen through about seventeen eighteen literally feels like you're
stuck in molasses, which is stuck within Quicksand yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Got our friend Wes used to always talk about you
get into that sort of thick of November where it's
like this feels a little bit like a you're walking
through a dark forest. There are some longer days during.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
There are outliers like the man in between us is
like every week's beautiful child. And I love football.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I think Thanksgiving is big to get to, but then
actually I do, I feel like I feel differently.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Then it just feels like a downhill. So I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think that that pre Thanksgiving November is when we grind.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
In this week, let's go. They've done something uh slightly
hazardous nine games in the early nine nine.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I would like to balance it out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, and it's leading to another Sessler apocalypse. What a
tough week for Mark. You have the first overall pick,
which is always great because you get to pick any
game you want from the nine non prime time UH slate,
but it also gives you three early games, so the
man who.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
And you can't really pick any game you want because
Shok has some games. It's uh your you have three
games too.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I don't even know what Shook has. I don't care
what Shook has. There's too much what does Shook have?
Talk in this studio? What do you want to watch
on Sunday?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
That?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
No, I think that's the right way to look.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
My concern is, Yeah, you were talking about having an ear,
the earphone in each ear.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm watching two games three maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
What hat where do you put the third bud?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
There is no human answer today. I have an idea. I,
like I told the people behind the glass, I just
want to be taken out by bow and arrow, like
Mid Mid game. I mean it's like, I don't you.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Know privately, I'm going to tell you where to put
the third bud.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I can think of one place.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
All right, we are going to get to the draft
again Wednesday show with Colleen wolf Banger. Check it out,
and we covered Giants at San Francisco Thursday Night Football,
which we will have tonight. Mark and I will have
the recap of that game Thursday night for you. We
already hit Pittsburgh Raiders Sunday Night Football, Eagles Bucks Monday
Night and double Monday Night Sissler Rams Bangles. So let's

(02:54):
talk now, Yes, all the Sunday non primetime content starting
with Pick one and Mark Ceesler. And by the way,
one last thing we this program. If you want to
watch this on fast which is what Channel three Television
nailed it on the NFL channel, just search NFL and

(03:15):
you'll find us and you can watch this Thursday show
every week. There's the plug, Mark the first overall pick.
Does this show up on YouTube as well? I believe
it does. Yeah, and you can also on YouTube. But
these are the options you have to watch us.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You don't really have an excuse not to check it
out visually.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Got another tweet this morning, Hey, watching you guys on television.
Not what I thought you'd looked like. And again, never
a compliment, never a compliment.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
We've jarred them some day.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
How about how about take the listeners if that is
your impression, take the little comment, put it back in
your back pocket. Don't need it unless unless it's Wow,
you guys, handsome, pial you know, for your age and
everything and not that, and haters, you aren't popping the
pressures you face as fathers living in a major urban center.

(04:06):
Yeah uh. And and a career with a lot of
pressure and eyeballs upon you, and it's it's always coming
down on you, and there's always a practice and games,
and you're.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Getting judged by your own like friends and family members.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Life made you, and you have a mortgage and your
dog maybe got hit by a car and maybe Aaron
Rodgers Blue's achilles in the fourth play of the season.
It's gonna affect your physical appearance. Yeah, okay, it is
considered you're handsome. Once upon a time, maybe we were
better looking, just younger. But Mark, when you got leve
ion and you're living in Hollywood, maybe you're the exception.

(04:41):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I look at it when I see video of
us from like three or four years ago, it's like,
what the hell happened in the last nine hundred thousand days.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Right now though, because we will see that video in
three or four years and think, wow, we were looking
pretty good back.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah. The answer, by the way, what happened life in
a major urban center. That's right, It's just it's collapsing
on you all right. Time now for the number one
Pick of the Week, presented by Draft Kings.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
All Right, it is kind of a strange slate. I
feel like this week it's the first one. I felt
like whether they're on like five or six, like ooh,
we're you gonna go with this? Like I have my fascinations.
I'm going Falcons. Who at Detroit Falcons are getting three
points going into Michigan to try to battle the Lions.
We talked a lot about the about the Falcons on

(05:29):
our NFL Plus Monday recap of their game with the Packers,
and this matchup to me is kind of fascinating because
I was thinking about, like this the history of our
entire show, and like you had that Falcons Matt Ryan
super Bowl type team, but has Falcons Lions ever been
taken as the number one pick ever in the history
of our show. I don't think on any level. Probably

(05:52):
haven't played that often, but yeah, right, It's just like
it kind of tells you that a lot's changed for
these two teams pretty quickly. And I think for me,
like what I want to watch is two things, like
the growth of Atlanta's offense. Really, I feel like with
Jon Robinson, you have a bit of a cheat code
where you're gonna produce every week. On the ground, he
looks about as unstoppable as any rookie running back that

(06:14):
I can recall, and he seems to his role is growing.
We've seen his snap count jump up last week, as
it should, and I think, if you're like Tyler Algio
are still a very talented player, like your role is
gonna diminish. I really trust them on the ground. I'm
a little concerned about Detroit's defense, like I thought in
Week one against the Chiefs held him to six points
in the second half. That probably lose that game if

(06:36):
you don't have Kadarius Tony having a complete meltdown though,
and now you've lost CJ. Gardner, Johnson, James Houston, is out,
and even with James Houston, the pass rush has really
essentially been Aiden Hutchinson and not much else. They have
one sack on the season. That maybe not be the
biggest concern in this game because Desmond Ritter through the
ball more than you'd think last week, like is a

(06:58):
real hot and cold operate. I think it's fair to
look at him and say he's a complete wait and
see under center and probably kind of like the one
factor that could sync that offense. But against last week
against Green Bay, they ran for four point seven yards
per rush and ran the ball forty five times, And
I just think if you can do that kind of
thing to Detroit or on a weekly basis, you're gonna

(07:19):
be in these games late no matter what.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, it's a real test for this Lions defense, whether
they've changed at all, because they were disappointing a week
ago and they are really banged up. It goes back
to the whole pre can't can't lose anyone in the preseason,
like it'd be a tragedy, and then we start the
season like half these teams I feel like lost like
eight starters and the Lions are really high up there.

(07:42):
The Gardner Johnson injury, which we mentioned Monday night but
we didn't linger on it is massive there at safety
really improve their team. They're hopeful he can maybe come
back at the end of the season with the tornpector,
which sometimes that works out, sometimes it doesn't. But beyond that,
Taylor Decker is injured, Emmanuel Moseley, their their cornerback is

(08:04):
injured by Tie. Their offensive lineman who's who's kind of
a lynch pin who really improved things is out, and
so there's just a lot of injuries that they're dealing
with throughout the roster. A mon ran So Brown is
missing practice, but I assume that's not going to be
like too serious. And I think they the Falcons, will
ask questions to your defense that other teams just don't.

(08:26):
And yet I have my doubts that Desmond Ritter can
make you pay for the one on one matchups that
that Arthur Smith can create with some of those playmakers
when they do throw the ball. But they did ask
him Danny last week to be a little different. That
was the most aggressive Desmond Ridder passing game ever and
it was ugly and it was pretty great on a

(08:48):
few throws too. He made some great throws and he
made some big mistakes, but they decided to put a
little more on his plate and it was way more
of a roller coaster than other Desmond Ridder starts.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, we got to take some off his plate. Yeah,
I'd agree, And I think.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
If people just look at the stat line, he'll be like, oh,
he was okay in that game, and maybe this room
for group, but he was dreadful in that game. He
hit some throws and had some a nice goal line
run for a touchdown, and so it wasn't like a
total one of those wipeout games where there's nothing to
take from him. But he gave the Packers every chance
to win that game with throws that were right in
the chest of defenders, a really suspect early red zone

(09:25):
pass that was floating there for the taking. And I'm
just curious. Didn't love Arthur Smith's game plan in week one.
I didn't love it in game two a week two either,
just because of how much was put on the plate
of Ritter. And you have this guy now in Jean
Robinson that I want. I wish I could give the
credit to the person an X who put it out there,

(09:45):
but they had that view that went around the viral
view of the from above of Bijon juking and spinning
and just putting anyone in his area in the blender.
And this person said, this is what we thought Reggie
Bush was to be coming out of college into the NFL,
like this absolute dynamo. Rogie Bush had a fine NFL career,

(10:05):
but the.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Top was like Fadrick, Reggie Bush was twenty five pounds
heavier too, Right.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
But just in terms of like this guy, it's gonna
what he did in college is gonna translate, and it
absolutely has. So I would like to see Desmond Ridder
putting better positions, throwing the ball less. And I know
it's not gonna be great news for some of these
pass catchers, but make this all Bijon with some more
running game. I'm not saying like.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
He had twenty he had twenty five touches last week.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Right, Banco Moore, But just take a little off Desmond's
plate because I don't think he's ready for it. And
Arthur Smith obviously is confident enough to give him that
much of an assignment in Week two when he got
away with it by sheer luck. Quite honestly, they got
away with how much was given to Desmond Ritter. I'm
interested to see what Arthur Smith puts on the quarterback's
plate after watching the game tape and seeing what happened

(10:54):
from the sideline.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's interesting because I think like one of the consistent
frustrations for fantasy player or Falcons fans in generals, it's
like the Kyle Pitts thing, and like he and Drake
London last week combined for eight catches and two of
them were for Pits. London a year ago had one
hundred and seventeen targets. Now he had a drops issue
and had only seventy catches. But it's like he was

(11:15):
featured a ton last year and now they're in a
situation where it's like I kind of am with you,
like have Ritter do less because it's such a variance
of what he's going to give you. And they're lucky
they didn't have two pick sixes last week, and that
would have changed the whole way that game ended.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
That one goal line setup. We talked about it on
the on the Monday Plus show, where you're asking Dozen
Murder to make passes and you're only giving bees on
the ball once give him the Rock by the goal line.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I could see that easier. I mean, do I feel
like Ritter seems to get law like down in those
red zone that one sequence you talked about, We're just
like missing Falcons wideouts high and by a lot like He's.
It's not what you'd expect with the weapons they have
in the red zone.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, I mean they're going to be a limited offensive team.
They would ended up trailing in that game and had
to come back. I just think the Falcons defense is
in better position this year to keep these games under
control in a way that they weren't a year ago.
But they haven't totally been tested either. I mean, the
Packers were missing people last week and Week one they

(12:17):
got to play the Panthers. But I've really been impressed
with what Ryan Nielsen has done. Their new coordinator came
from the Saints, and all their pickups are working, Like
Onya mad has really made a big impact for them
at defensive tackle. Cayden Ellis has made a big impact
for them at linebacker. And this is a huge test
where the Lions offense really tests you in the middle

(12:38):
of the field. I know they're without David Montgomery, but
to me, they still have enough weapons to make this
an offensive type of game, and I think Atlanta's defense
is at least respectable enough now that they can keep
the score down.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
This is a fun one.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I had said that a few weeks back, Greg, if
the Lions came into this matchup undefeated, maybe some team
of ATN run it back. They didn't do that, but
if they, if they spank, doesn't ryder in his little
Adams maybe maybe still don't.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Want anyone to be about they have not.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Running against the Falcons. I just want us to have
an open eyed look at what's going on with If you're.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
The Lions, like you need to say this is a
game we win, Like this year's version of the Lions doesn't.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Should here and go one.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
And feel a lot of team of atl momentum for
for any team, it's possible.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Sometimes happened, or sometimes it takes until later.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah. By the way, the over under on this game
is forty six and a half fhy I.

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Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right, let's move to the second pick with Greg Okay.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I want to watch Chargers Vikings early.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
They're two to zero to two teams in a weird
way that makes this game feel more important. And I
find these two teams very intriguing despite their record. And
I have noticed that the Chargers offense is totally different,
Like Keenan Allen is making plays deep down the field.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
When was the last time you saw that?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Like Herbert's adat you know, his
average depth of target is higher than it's been throughout
his career. They're third in offensive DVOA through two weeks.
I think Herbert's taken some sacks in is taken a
little while to process in spots. You'd love him to
make a little quicker decision. But they're last in defense.

(14:41):
So it's it's to me, it's all on the defense.
And this is a matchup where you think that the
offenses are both gonna win. But I'm confident that the
Chargers offense and I know that's going against Brian Flores
and he's he's cooking up some new things here.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
But I like watching this Chargers offense so far.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's sounds like Austin Eckler is going to be back,
and I think the Vikings are going to have to
score a lot to keep up.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
In this one. By the way, Vikings minus won in
this game, so Vegasy is a close.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
It just feels like the Chargers are going to be
in these games that come right down to the end
and allowing teams like the same way that you know
Minnesota crawled back against the Eagles last week, because I
think with Justin Jefferson, with their passing game in general,
they're just they're they're never too far away from like
making an impact, making a game close. And the Chargers
just opened the door to that. Like, I mean a

(15:30):
week ago we were wondering if Ryan Tannehill's career might
be over, and he goes twenty for twenty, Well no,
but it was like he looked like off a cliff.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
But I always said that, Yeah, I guess I hadn't
And you came into the season saying he's underrated, and
so we didn't even flip so fast.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
But it's like, I guess I'm more saying that the
Chargers don't want to operate when your head coach is
this defensive specialist, You're you're in year three. It's their
clear achilles and they just opened the door and allowed
teams to get right on that side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, the whole point to the Brandon Stalely defense, remember,
is that, oh, well, we prevent big plays.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Like That's the whole idea, the whole Vic Fangio thing.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
It's why there's articles written about the deep ball is
dead in the NFL, and it's basically because of the
Vic Fangio defensive tree, of which Brandon Stalely is won.
But who gives up more deep balls than any team
in the league. It's the Chargers. They're worse defending the
past than any team. And this is a tough team.
This Vikings team are better going deep than they've ever
been because they don't just have Jefferson, they don't just

(16:27):
as Osborne.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
They now have Jordan Adison, who's a ballplayer.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Danny and I think there could be a lot of
fantasy points here for the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think the I think if you drafted Kirk cousins.
If you drafted justin Jefferson there is now we got
cam akers in the building. I don't know what they're running.
I really need to see the Vikings running game. Well,
nothing to see and if they can. I'm not out
on the Vikings yet. I know that they're owned two
as well, and but I think in their division they

(16:57):
absolutely got can get back on their feet and be
a player here. But they got to win this game,
and you've got to defend your home turf. It's a
really tough poll for the Chargers, and we mentioned that
letting both of those games slip away put you in
such a bad spot because Minnesota is not going to
be a team that's going to be easy to beat
at home in this situation and owe to two team

(17:19):
at home need in the W that's mostly healthy, That
is going to be a very difficult ask for the Chargers.
I think Minnesota is going to put up a lot
of points in this game. Now it's another test for Herbert.
Herbert's going to be tested all season unless something changes
here on Los Angeles' other side of the ball, where
he's going to be asked to keep scoring, stay healthy,

(17:42):
put up points every week, and yes, come up with
some of these drives to bail out the defense and
win some of these games late, which hasn't happened ye yet.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And it's two weeks in a row where there was
another narrative where Justin Herbert comes out as the hero
and it's not just him, but like they didn't answer that.
They didn't answer it last week at all, and it's
like there was a chance for just and Herbert's write
a different type of story. I like the cam Akers
pick up because because.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
It was free, it was eight round swap.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I was just kind of thinking, like, who's gonna actually
go after.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's such a silly trade. It shouldn't be allowed a
swap of late round draft picks in three years. Just
who are you fooling here?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
It's just that the Rams don't have to like feel
ashamed that they.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, that's what I mean, don't waste their time, like
we don't need. The insiders don't even sleep because the
bosses tell them they're not allowed to miss any scoops.
So you got rap sheet his wife, you know, shoving
his shoulder at four a m. Yeah, to say, oh,
there a trade just went down. Your your phone's blowing up.
How about how about cam Akers? How about how about

(18:43):
the Rams have to take the yel that because cam
Akers did not what was it called again, the culture?
Culture did not adhere to the culture in the Los Angeles.
The Rams have a culture. You do not adhere to
the culture, you must leave.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Is that like less Sneed's assistant or something? Who's like
who's it's mostly? But yeah, so I don't know, just
stupid trade, go ahead, No I like it. Vikings thirty
one yards against the Bucks, twenty eight on the ground
against the Eagles, like and they said it wasn't a
Alexander Madison like lack of confidence, Well it is a
little bit, I mean bad, one of the.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Worst backup running back situations in the lead. I mean
the two of them will share, we'll see. Acres has
been very up and down as a pro, but I
think has always been a little overrated.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Uh isn't it? Quickly? How how it changes? It went
from all summer everybody being like, well, no, I'm not
saying Dalvin Cook has been great shakes in New York
so far, but it was like, oh, yeah, Madison, he'll
be fine. And I know Dalvin Cook has average fifteen
hundred yards from scrimmage for six straight years. But they
got Madison. He's fine, and that happened.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
That line is brutal, and they were missing Christian Darrisaw
just saying sometimes we just beside Dolphins. Riser, I think
Dearisa's back for this game.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm so with you.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
We do a little summer plug and play sometimes as
analysts and in our industry, and it's like, well, we
got to see.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
It, I mean, but we're also we're playing along with
the whole thing because it's like we all know, realistically,
you get to week three, half these rosters are shredded.
So these people that you're talking about the.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Team around him.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And look, there's certainly no one in Minnesota that wish
is they had Dalvin Cook right now. So whether whether
Madison was good enough to fill in.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I don't know. That's I totally disagree. There's no one
in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, they would love to have Dalvin Cook from
three years ago. But if they're watching Dalvin Cook's tape
this year, who's in a similarly bad situation, I think
they'd have to say, like, we're not missing him right now?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Maybe I mean my crazy I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
They willingly moved on, So I mean not everyone in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I guess I'm not. I know it's gonna sound because
he's a Jet, but I'm not. I'm still not ready
to say Dalvin Cook is washed right now, like totally washed.
He was expensive.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm not ready to say that either, But I don't
think they're They would think he would be solving what
is going on there.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
That's all I understand that. Now Madison play the guitar.
That's all I'm saying. There was an assumption that he obviously.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Could Joey Bosa give me more than nineteen snaps this week.
This is a guy who hasn't played more than five
hundred and seventy five snaps only three times in his career.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
For you to say in your podcam jail.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Last week, I know it so good when he plays,
but they really need him on the field because Coleil
Mack is not given them much.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Now there's a guy that maybe it's time, you know,
maybe it's time time to what to not view him
as an impact player. Well, I think I think we
reached that location. All right, where are we at? I'm
up here? We go first game? It should it should
be gone, guys, it should be gone at Buffalo at Washington.

(21:44):
I like the Bills the way they looked in Week two.
It showed again that that's a stable operation with good
leadership that after a pretty harrowing Monday night with your
franchise star just setting himself on fire, basically, they were
able to look like the Bills we expect and Western

(22:07):
New York expects them to be, and they hammered the Raiders.
Now let's talk about the commanders. Though. Let's have a
little conversation about the commanders, because there's a couple of
different ways you could look at the Washington Commanders. You
could look at it they are a team that almost
got beat by Arizona and needed a comeback in Week
one one twenty to sixteen, okay, And then you could say,

(22:30):
well they won last week two, but they were down
twenty one to three to the to the Broncos, and
so the opponents have been soft, the schedule's been soft. However,
they did come back against the Cardinals, and that second
half performance of the offense, again by the offense against
Denver was really nice, and the defense as well. Quite honestly,

(22:51):
like you, there was a hail Mary at the and
that put a little lipstick on the pig there for Denver.
But Washington's play on both sides of the ball and
closing out the these two games is notable one. And
Sam Howe has made some big time eye opening throws
in these games. And he has my curiosity.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
He's feisty, he's I mean, everyone is welcome to enjoy
Sam Howe. I think they should, but I feel like
he'd be in my stable of boys right now. I'm
loving my little Sam.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
How do we want to put this team on the
radar team of ATM.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I'm down.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I knew I'm not sure before the season. They might
lose this game and be two and one, But that
doesn't bother me.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I you were throwing it. No, you were talking about
the Lions as the team of ATN.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, just as a team that we like.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It is intriguing, I said, it, wouldn't it be very
I forget what the word was, transgressive to go Commander's
team of it right in the total.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Maybe a year ago or the past twenty years, it
would never happen. But considering the changing culture there, culture,
the culture is different.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
No, it's it's very different.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
If Sam how is going to be kind a bit
of a young gunslinger type here, and young and sweaty
is back, and Deron Payin is making plays, and Terry
McLaurin might have a guy that could actually sling him
the rock, and Curtis Samuel do this little fun stuff
and Brian Robbinson.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
It also feels like a.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Gesture at Dan Snyder to pick them now too, which
I always eased you.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
You wouldn't You wouldn't enjoy that, And I'm not against
that concept. I know they're in that. They'd be in
that running because I think how we'll just he's not perfect,
and I don't only have a problem with some of
their up and down nature over the first couple of
games when you're going in there with a quarterback that's
so inexperienced, but like he just makes things happen, and
like it's kind of like the quarterback I like to watch,
just like I don't know how Ron Rivera stumbled across this,

(24:37):
because it's like he seemed to intentionally try to not
find a quarterback over the course of half a decade
and hold on to his job and going to get
into the playoffs with like nine wins, but it's.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Take steadfast though, like to start this off season, we're
gonna ride how No, they've said that all along, and
like they it was funny they don't.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
His quote right before the season, Like if I would
have known he was that good, I would have played
him sooner. So like Ron was gassing up Sam before
the season started.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
By the way, that also tells you that Ron Rivera
was closer to Sam Howel than anyone else on earth
all of last season. And like Colin Kaepernick and San
Francisco when they're like this guy's too hard to keep
off the field, we're watching him in practice, it's like
you didn't self scout the entire what.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
It means Sam Howe's brother, like Terry Howell.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Well, I'm saying from is Terry Howell at every practice?
Like Ron Rivera's like, oh, I should have You shouldn't
be telling us that.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Maybe do you know if Terry Howell is at every practice?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't know for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Terry's a good, good guy, a good football mine.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know who's not in how Vegas the desert right now,
six and a half points of wood being laid to
the visiting team. So the idea here is that Washington's
not ready or the Bills are that good?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Well, like for the from a team of atl standpoint,
Like let's say a bomb is dropped on Washington, Uh,
the football team on a football field, not the city,
like by the Bills, and it's like we start, we
start to not believe.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Fully, it's a long process and they're fun and to me,
a ten win fun, you know, just different sort of
season is perfect for temy At and I think that's
what samhow it could provide. I mean, watching that game,
it was hard for me not to think like he's
young russ I mean, that is his comp in the NFL.
He's got the same sort of body type, the same

(26:21):
sort of runner, the same sort of deep ball, the
same sort of I'm gonna hold the ball forever and
it's gonna be too long sometimes and bad things are
gonna happen sometimes because of that, but good things are
gonna happen because of that too. He I'm not saying
he's has the ceiling of young Russell Wilson necessarily, but
he's the same type of player. And they've really looked

(26:42):
sharp on offense in a way I don't think they
were last year. And Eric Bienemy needs to get credit
because he'd be getting buried if he went to Washington
and they stunk and the Chiefs office offense is rolling,
and yet know how many people are really talking about like,
oh wow, your screen game is really on points to me,
that's coaching, that's offensive line. That's like, that's coaching. Meanwhile,

(27:03):
the Chiefs are, you know, stinking on offense. And Eric
b Enemy's gone, so he's had a nice start. I'm
not saying they're like rolling it, but this is a
much different test to play.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
The Bills team. They were rolling in the second half
a mile high.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I guess I can't remember the last time I yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Mean maybe there's a football head will point out that,
like the twenty seventeen week fourteen through sixteen window or something.
I can't remember the last time that I enjoyed watching Washington.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
They made it tough. They made it tough for a
long time, and the and the organization had a stink
that was unappealing as well.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And then the Commanders have four defensive line And We'll
get to your Bills fans quickly because I know we
but look their offensive line. If there's any question about
the Bills. It's their offensive line. Now they got to
go against this young and sweaty Dron Payin and j
Jonathan Allen. Those four guys had twenty five pressures last week.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Not the team.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
That's a big number for a team, just those four guys.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So that's a nice don't worry. Josh Allen has a plan.
He's going to jump over them. They're set.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Bills want to be physical like they have. Their two
tight ends are starting to run the boss. That's a
really nice test when they have Dawson Knox.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Was not a practice on Thursday though with a back issue.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Uhatomy. Hey, Eric, producer, very important. If the Washington Commanders
win on Sunday, that's a major major development and team
of ATM potential. Can we have can you get in
touch with Terry Howell just in case they win, so
we can have him on the Monday maybe the Monday
night show, even the Sunday flagship show.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
The brother of would be a great guest.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
Yeah, definitely, we're not hearing you, Eric, Yeah, he had
his moment there, lots.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Of buttons back here, can you hear me? Now?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I got him lined up? There you go.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's also a bill.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I see, I don't know if he has a brother,
and if his brother's name is Terry, or if brother
named Terry, they close.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
I don't know that hinges on the Bills losing, though correct,
there's a.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Number of tank I mean, well that primarily would.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Be hopefully I'm not making that casse. We're in a
Bill's hat, so he can't imagine all that would being
laid and then being burned. All right, kind of a
widespread All right, let's take a break, and then we'll
continue with the draft. Now right, we are back and
snakes back to me in the old week three draft,
and I will take Oh, we have some demons to

(29:19):
slay in the swampsa Jersey. Because the New England Patriots
are coming to the Meadowlands to face the Jets. This
is not the ideal set up on a number of levels. Obviously,
like Aaron Rodgers be playing for the Jets. I also
would rather the Pats not be in a desperate place

(29:40):
at oh and two. That does not fill me with
a lot of confidence because I know obviously teams play different.
There's an urgency level. The Patriots cannot lose this game. Statistically,
the data tells you that almost every oh to three
game is cooked. It's such a big hole, even with

(30:03):
an added game to the schedule. So now the Jets
have to Now here's the positive side, Greg, and for
a Patriots fan, it's the flip side. Jets can bury
the Patriots in week three. They could send that organization
and fan base into a tailspin before the calendar flips
over to October. Now they have to do it, and
they have to do it with their defense and their

(30:23):
running game. The Jets got away from their running game.
Now the Cowboys played a big role in that. And
you saw how the Cowboys had answers for everything the
Jets were doing in week two. I thought it was
a masterclass from McCarthy and company. B Reesaw needs to get
the ball more than four times. Breesol needs to get
the ball like the Falcons need to give John Robinson

(30:44):
the ball, quite frankly, because you can't put too much
on Zach Wilson's plate. You need to dash of Zach
Wilson and keep guys like Garrett Wilson a playmaker in
the mix. But you win the game at the running
game and the defense. After being humbled by the Cowboys
in Week two has to take it gregy to mac
Jones and an offense for the Patriot that has to
work very hard to manufacture, and you have to get

(31:04):
after mac Jones and punish him in this game.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
The two quarterbacks in this game are in a tough spot.
These are the two worst offensive lines in the NFL,
the Jets and the Patriots in terms of pass block
win rate, So they're just losing over and over. There
is certainly not a worst tackle combination when Trent Brown
is out of the lineup than the Patriots. Calvin Anderson
was like a journeyman and didn't touch the field in training.

(31:29):
Gim He's just been a turnstyle left tackle. They actually
are starting. They started last week. The Vikings sixth tackle
was their life, and they came in and they brought
their guards in who were injured and drink them and
they were terrible. So that matchup against the Jets is
just a brutal mismatch. And it's why I'm actually impressed
with how mac Jones has played this year. On balance,

(31:51):
like he's six in the league in completion over completion
percentage over expected. I think he's done well enough with
what he has and they don't have an explosive element.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I would say it's almost as big of a mismatch.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
The other way, maybe it's bigger because, yeah, the Patriots
aren't quite as good upfront, but they're good, and the
Jets offensive line is struggling. And more importantly, they have
Zach Wilson as their quarterback, who against Belichick has just
been a total disaster fifty percent completion percentage, two touchdowns
and four starts, seven interceptions, and he just hasn't gotten

(32:25):
it done. So it's gonna be a defensive game. It's
hard to imagine it won't. It's a very Belichick game.
We're here at the end of Belichick's career. You can
get the greatest hits of all of this, his Browns game.
I'm just saying, like his Brown's career, his Jets defensive coordinator,
his Patriots, it's just like ugly defense.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
That's what we'll see.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
They like.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
If the Patriots were to fall to zero to three,
I would spend a morning listening to WEEI because I
think that they're gonna have a meltdown situation like you
just don't. We're in New territory. If that were to
happen to them that said, I mean, this is a
good spot, I think for the Patriots because Bill Belichick
feasts on quarterback situations like this where you're just hoping

(33:09):
and it's like it gets dull to just keep talking
about Zach Wilson's inefficiency and inability. It's like, I'm not
trying to go down that road. But it's just that
outside of Breese Hall and maybe like you can get
two games in a row. There's been a scoring strike
to Garrett Wilson last week that was like mainly the
only positive thing that Zack Wilson did for the most part.
You get one of those and you get a ton

(33:31):
of Breese Hall. Like this game feels like fourteen to
tend to me or something like that, and I really
I think this thing. You still have the strength of
the deep Jets defensive line that comes at you in waves,
and it's like they kind of got it taken to
him on defense last week. That was as surprising as
anything else that's happened in the Jets this season, was that,
you know, Dak Prescott opens I think thirteen for thirteen.

(33:52):
They're totally efficient and everything you thought you could count
on from New York on that side of the ball
didn't really show up. It was more like the big
plays they didn't make on defense that kind of separated
that game early. So I don't know. The Jets are
in a tough spot. You got to be almost you
gotta hope that this quarterback doesn't make a key mistake.
Except it's one of the most reliable things happening on
a weekly basis in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I think last year's matchups, it could be something similar,
and that still sits. It sits with me in a
way that annoys me. That they had a pick six
of mac Jones late in the first half in their
first matchup of the medalands yea last year that would
have had him up seventeen to three at a halftime.
It got taken off the board on a bogus roughing
the passer call. The Patriots ended up winning that game.

(34:34):
Then the next time they meet in Foxborough, it's a
defensive stalemate, Neither offense can move a yard and the
Pats went on a walkoff hunt return at the end
of regulation. And I think you're gonna see it again.
I think both quarterbacks will struggle. I think we're gonna
have a low scoring game. But now this is where
the Jets in you know, year three of Sala, year

(34:55):
two of this young nucleus on d they gotta win
a ball game. Like I talk about about Justin Herbert,
this Jets defense needs to make the plays because I
think the Patriots, even their running game the Pats, which
we we look at Ramandra Stevenson like that hasn't gotten
going yet.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
It is.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
It is the Jets defense. After again getting humbled by Dallas,
they this week. They You could not have more boltin
board material for a Patriots team that's won twenty two
of the last twenty four meetings in this quote unquote rivalry.
You got to kick the ass of the Patriots offense
and score score on defense and win seventeen to three.

(35:33):
That's it's time to show. That's if this is a
team that's gonna survive and be matter in December. There
is no messing around here. You beat a very mediocre
Patriots team and you keep moving the checking.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
If it was the lowest over under of the week,
it is Patriots two and a half points on the road.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Does that surprise? But I know that everyone's out on
the Jets now, and I get it. But Pat's favored
on the road.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's like a little surprising, but I think that's reflecting,
Like I don't know if the numbers totally say it
yet or not, but I think it's might be reflecting. Yes,
the Patriots are zero and too, but you still think
they're a better team than they were a year ago.
And that team was able to beat Zach Wilson twice.
So I think it's just that feeling of Zach Wilson.

(36:21):
I'm really looking forward to Christian Gonzales on Garrett Wilson.
We'll see if he actually travels with him. But Christian
Gonzalez off to a really nice start as approach. Not
saying he's like Sauce Gardner or anything, but we got
they got a first round cornerback.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
He looks like a good pick and that'll be a
fun match.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
All right, let's keep moving. Greg gets back to you.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I am gonna take the late game that I want.
It's not a great late slate, but I'm gonna take
Panthers at Seahawks just because I want to watch my
boy Gino live and in person. That won't be in person.
I'm excited. The Seahawks are favored by six. Now you
want to do a second take that line moved up,

(37:03):
I mean four h five.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
That's a disappointment too. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's the game I want to watch. I want to
watch the Seahawks against this Panthers defense. I think it's
a game the Seahawks, if they have taken any steps
forward from a year ago and certainly from week one,
should be good enough to slow down a Panthers attack
that's probably starting Andy Dalton. And it's maybe it's just me,

(37:28):
but personally as someone who wants the Seahawks to win
this game because I'm locking them up, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Gonna building up.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I actually feel less good about this with Andy Dalton
starting than Bryce Young. I don't think that's that crazy
to say. I just think at this point in their careers,
Andy Dalton will get the ball out a little quicker
with a bad offensive line in front of him.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
He's just been in the NFL a long time.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And Bryce Young, I don't think it's been bad, but
he's been out with his ankle injury, and there's just
a lot to ask of a rookie quarterback. I actually
give Dalton a better chance, kind of like when he
played for Justin Fields when Fields was a.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Rookie a couple of years ago in Chicago. It's like, oh,
actually they were a little better with ault.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
What's the spread on this one?

Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's six now.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And the other one you were hunting was maybe at
the Bengals were starting their backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, although the Rams are understand how Craig's winning these trophies,
who's starting?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Are we really counting this?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Like?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
You took the Chiefs in week one and you got
a big freaking out on it.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
You took the Seahawks in week one.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
We were the exact same favorites that I took a
lower Falcons three point favorites.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Very brain, you were honking there?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Have you taken both Super Bowl teams back to back
week one? In week two?

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, so let's come down.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
So I don't know what have you done besides lous
relentlessly and I've lost.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I've been just it's been one l out to the next.
I'm not really critiquing. I was more asking a question.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
But maybe maybe none of us have covered ourselves in
glory so far. But Greg, we see how taking these
trophies home.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
If we could add up the points spreads in the
our three games, and they'd be the samer years would.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
People are very it's very hard to get you mad, Greg,
but this, for some reason, I always gets you and
I love it well.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I do.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's because it's a game that at first, like didn't
have any rules, and I always thought it's a stupid
game if it if it doesn't have rules, like you
have to look at the mirror, we have a rule,
I'd be all four changing the rules and putting the number.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm just saying, I'd.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Say, you say it's under five or whatever, but if
you really want.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
The only thing I'm saying this is smart. It's savvy
because the spread will probably go out of the lock
zone once they officially named Dalton Starter.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
No it already.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I was surprised because, like I said, I think Andy
Dalton gives them a much better chance to win.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Maybe not much, but a better chance.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
And I think it went from five and a half
to six with that news. Cool Andy Dalton played well
last year, Right.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Cool with your lock, Greg, I'm just having fun that so, I.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Mean it's fun to get fired up. I think that's good.
I will never take it personally it's this game.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I've bet you'll take it, Barry, you will definitely take if.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I win four out of five, I'm taking it out.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
The three of us and there's a vote. It's a
bad SI, it's a tough all right. Anything else in
this game.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, come on, let's give the Panther Panthers.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
How about a bad offensive line versus a really bad
Seahawks pass rush. So I'm a little concerned about the
Seahawks defense. That kind of just erases both, right, So
I'm I can't can you get can you get something done?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Here? One?

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Like?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I think I feel like Frankie Lulu every time I
watch the Panthers. He's doing something, he's.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Wild and when he misses his tag team partner Shack Thompson,
Jacy Horn is still out there. Their front line is good.
I thought it was interesting last year. They're the number
five overall pick. Devin Witherspoon was very much like the
main character of Seahawks Lions for about three quarters in
that game. Made a couple of big plays that ended drives,
but was relentlessly picked on by Jared Goff and the

(40:52):
Lions offense, and really struggled for the most parts I'm
just someone to watch.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I have a wild take. By the way, First of all,
this is your chance before we move on, Mark to
get a shotgun blast off on the head coach of
the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Well, I want to see what he does with with
Andy Dalton. I just think their offense has been vastly
unimpressive and not very watchable. That's not the calling card.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I feel like POD's been a little hot last week
or so with everything as the coach's fault, Like what
is he working with really right now?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
An inexperienced young quarterback who is also the first overall pick, but.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Like Adam Feelen, is a primary receiver in this offense.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Like it's not a bounty of weapons. I don't think
anyone's saying it is.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm not saying Frank Braich should be absolved if the
offense stinks this year or the team is bad. But
I don't know. The players play the games.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I'm with you to I wanted to give it.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's my thing with him in this team is I
want to evaluate a new situation like this over time. Yeah,
and I expected this team to be bad. It's why
I mean I was gonna lock. I locked against in
Week one. I meant to last week. Remember I was
saying Saints, but I flipped off it. But they lost it,
and I'm doing it. I'm just as long as they
stay in the lock zone Anti.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Panthers Seattle take by the way, next time Tyler Lockett scores,
and trust me, Tyler Lockett's going to score as long
as his body is willing because he's a very good,
maybe the most underrated receiver of the last ten years.
Go it out there. Tyler Lockett watched closely. Doesn't know

(42:21):
how to spike it football. Okay, go check out the
footage of his first touchdown. He had to walk off.
Of course, he grabs it and I imagine his hands
are probably larger than average, but when he does the windmill,
it's almost like it's coming out of his hands, and
then he doesn't. You can't bring it down with any
level of ferocity, and it just kind of it underwhelms

(42:42):
as a spike. He seems like someone that it would
be a value add for him and his brand to
change his touchdownsal.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Have you have you tracked and gone back through previous
seasons and campaigns.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, the reason why you know we followed him for
his whole career now, and when he did it, when
I was watching two days ago, I was like, oh,
he's always doing that. It's always kind of an uninspiring spike.
Last thing is how many more? Andy Dalton starts a
we're gonna get how many? Ever, ever, so I'm gonna
enjoy this twelve. I'm always like the glowing ginger man.

(43:14):
All right, Mark, you're up. You think there will be
twelve more? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I think he'll play beyond this season and do some patchwork.
You know, all these half these quarterbacks get lost to
the news.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Perhaps.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I hope Bryce Young getting hurt is not like a
recurring thing.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
But we'll see. It's just an English little weird that
they can't have him run the sneaks.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Into the game.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Check out that Tyler Locketts spike video.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
So I'm gonna you should you should put that out
on You should x that and then like, I'll re.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Exit for you make an ex video? Yeah, got it?

Speaker 4 (43:45):
You well? Post I believe is their official term.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I'm reaxting.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
What is it? Repost?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
They cannot have the word tweets on it.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
There we can out it does not adhere to our culture.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
This guy, all right, I'm gonna go tight?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Browns? I Kareem Hunt signed by Cleveland, pinch me.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I think, if anything, he knows that he knows the
system in the playbook. I wonder what kind of shape
he's in.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But I had a in my league of record, I
had a my buddy Greg, one of the guys. That guy, yeah,
the guy who runs the league. Burger spent his entire
budget on Jerome Ford. And then Greg, who's had the
most championship success in our league historically, went in the
back door and got Kareem Hunt, and then and then

(44:33):
was patting himself on the back over it, and I said,
that is a nice pickup, especially you paid four dollars
or whatever, and Burger paid sixty. But Kareem Hunt, there's
kind of a reason. Maybe he was unemployed until this
point and he didn't put a lot on tape, maybe
even the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I guess I don't hate that he didn't go through
a whole preseason and all this stuff. And if he's fresh,
it's kind of like it'll work. The same thing happened.
I haven't done fantasy in a million years, but I
had I got this like waiver, why scenario trying to
get to room forward get totally banged on, that didn't
get them, And it's like four in the morning, like,
oh kareem hunt news, Like I just choped them up
for free street smart. That's called strategy. That's a good

(45:08):
that's a solid sound.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
For his son Walker right now.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I believe someone does have it in that in that league.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
No one did.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
He cares about your fantasy.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Dam they don't.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
But go on, well, I just you know, it's obviously
my fanship or fandom with the Browns is you know,
a strange place. But I felt something on Monday Night.
I felt agitated to watch what happened to Nick Chubb.
The way they lost that game. In general, it's kind
of like this recurring DNA of like, oh yeah, the
worst possible thing will occur and they can't beat Pittsburgh
and Pittsburgh and they it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Was a lot. It was. It was.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
It wasn't the Monday Night previous. I'm not equating it
to that. It had some of the same sort of
horrid energy.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I would say, if you would allow me, Oh yeah,
I said, the mask slipped. This was really Monday Night
was the first real post mark divorce with the Browns
game in a lot of ways, like week ones busy,
It's Sunday last year was last year with Watson, Monday night,

(46:10):
your quarterbacks on the field against the Steelers, and everything
was still there. It's all still there.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I'm just no, I like it's all still I acknowledge
that it agitated me because I see actually more potential
in this Browns team than anyone in a long long time.
And it's for me, it's stuff they never had before.
And it's like the thing that isn't changing or going
away is how deep their defense is and how much

(46:35):
it seems to be working under Jim Schwartz. And it's
like this is a crazy game because they can stop
the run. They can make life very difficult for Ryan Tannehill.
That offensive line. I think we could go back somewhere.
We're not gonna get twenty for twenty four from Tannehill
this time around, not with the way the secondar is playing.
They're a little banged up here and there Cleveland, but
I just trust them to inflict damage. But then you've

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got this Titans defense that is nasty against the the Chargers,
like ran all over the place, on the Dolphins in
Week one. They were shut down. Last week they didn't
have Eckeler, But like, I don't think that's the only
reason that happened. It's because Tennessee remains a nasty, gritty
team that's gonna be in close games, and I think
it's gonna be a tough test for Cleveland. I do
think Jerome Ford the only thing about the cream Hunt

(47:17):
is Jerome Ford is a good player. Like, I mean,
we saw it last week and it's like I'm over
cream Hunt. Repeated they did, and so I think that
you've got to It's it's been a tough, tough fantasy
situation because you don't want to know what the work
will it'll be, but late they can still run the ball,
and it's like, hey, Deshaun Watson, it's kind of on
you to give us something different of a sample size
than what we've seen over like a season.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He has.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
I heard this on PFF, Like he's been sacked more
over the last two seasons than Patrick Mahomes and he
missed twelve games.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Hey yeah, I it's really on him now the rest
of the season, but it's really on him in this
week because the Titans run defense is so good that
you have to throw the ball against them, and they're
vulnerable in the back end. They're a little banged up,
and this is what you pay for.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
And it's funny.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I actually think Watson's struggles has been weirdly under talked about.
Like to me, it's one of the biggest football stories.
Throw everything else out that that like frustrated me, that
disgusted me about the Shong warning, Throw all that out
just from a football vantage point. He's so incredibly disappointing now,

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and you've made all these excuses like when are we
gonna run out of the always been gone for a
while excuse, like he's had two full training camps with
this team, Like he was there all last offseason, he
was there all this offseason. There are thirty four quarterbacks
who've had two hundred and fifty dropbacks over the last
two years. He's dead last in EPA per pass, He's

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twenty ninth in success rate, and he just doesn't look comfortable.
I think he looks better this year. There are some
quality throws. I don't think he's gonna be the worst
quarterback in the league, but right now he's somewhere between
twenty and thirty, and it's like we just keep making
excuses where guys like Josh Dobbs or Jacobe Prissett they
come in and they play around the same level right away,

(49:06):
and he has to be frustrated. Everyone has to be frustrated.
They have to make the passing game work. I don't
know how it's gonna be. But he never looked like
this in Houston. Yeah, his never looked this uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I was, you know, very frustrated if you're a Browns fan.
And certainly, as we talked about on the sideline, you
could see with Stefanski some of his pocket awareness, and
that's an issue. Like the fact that the ball the
strip and score that is partly because he was he
didn't feel it. He wasn't feeling it taking that late
sack when they still had a chance. It was just
he's not feeling it. Now. The pick six at started

(49:39):
the game, I don't think that was really on him.
Maybe the pass could have been better, but that was
a drop into a pick six. And week one I
think there was some good things, so I'm not like
I'm not banging the panic button and and making excuses
for him, but that also was a pretty tough setting.
You had Chubb going down in that game.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Eight games like Taylor Heineke would throw in a heater
on one.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
But again, game you put a lot more stock into
last year, Like I'm saying my excuses and in terms
of Watson and saying, what's up with this guy? Give
me to the end of the month here, let's see,
let's see what he looks like after four games. Give
me a little bit more of a sample size. But yeah,
he's not he's certainly not carrying the team, and that's
what they kind of need now.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
And it is it is like I'm with you, Greg
that it's a huge football story because look at how
we treated like the sharp decline of Russell Wilson that
was like a shocking.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
To Josh was the story of the week because he
had a bad week.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
And I mean there's other Rock Purty comes in off
the street and plays competent football, and it's like we're
not even getting like how when is the last game
where a quarterback had two face mask calls against? Like,
what's going on with this guy?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
It's like a little man, there's a little bit of
a Yeah, you definitely could see it what he's not comfortable.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
No, this Titans, you should talk a little Titans that
look the Taji Spears.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
That thing is happening already.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
It's a it's a the eight snaps to seventy eight
for Henry tip of the sphere. He's been nice and
d Hop Hopkins is not Julio Jones there, but he's
also not yet.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
He's a piece.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
He's not yet the hop from Arizona. That might just
be a situational think.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
They did get the deep ball going last week. I
wonder if that's even possible against Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
This this smells this weeks of twenty to sixteen. I'm
taking the seventeen thirteen.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Titans getting three and a half points in this, all.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Right, I think that's too much.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
All right, Mark, all.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Right, I'm taking my late game Dallas at Arizona. So
that means that stadium will probably be seventy five percent
Cowboys fans. That seems to happen to the Cardinals on
a weekly basis. Sounds like Brandon Cooks, who practiced Thursday,
will finally emerge here. I kind of I've been resistant
to the whole concept of the Cowboys because I think

(51:52):
there's this part of me that's like, there's no way
I can do two weeks of Super Bowl lead up
if it's Jerry Jones and that in this cast of characters.
But I'm starting just to give in.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Because why not, it's been They've been in the Super
Bowl in twenty seven years.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
I'm just saying, I'm beginning to beginning to give into
the concept a little bit because they look so far
like the best team in the NFC, like where the
Eagles are a little not really fully themselves. Yet it
feels like the Cowboys they got it going on and
like Dak Prescotte opens thirteen for thirteen last week across
the field at the same time Zach Wilson and it's
not a Zach Wilson at nine yards, just that the

(52:28):
Cowboys came out of came out hot against a pistol,
a top three defense. Arizona's been really frisky. I watched
that game closely last Sunday, and guys like Dennis Gardak,
who has four sacks already, the Barbarian see from like
Soux Falls or something like that. I don't know where
it's from, but like he's they've been good on defense.
They've they've hassled quarterbacks, and Josh Dobbs was frisky that said,

(52:52):
I just see this to be. This gets to be
the game where it's like these Cardinals close hanging around
third fourth quarter. Probably not this time.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
It's a tough ass for the Cowboys. The Cowboys are
going to come out of these three games probably with
just an outrageous point differential.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Well, they have the highest one of their entire franchise
history since nineteen sixty eight. Right now.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I thought that Jets game, that first drive was so telling.
McCarthy at a nice game. Dak had a nice game.
They knew how to attack that defense. They got rid
of the ball quickly to kind of mitigate the pass rush.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
But the biggest.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Play in that game to me was the third and
six in the red zone to start the game on
the very first drive, where Dak gets back to the
top of his drop and the Jets pass rush actually
won on that play and Dak so decisively just ran
up the middle. He just looks faster and he looked
like he made a play he wouldn't have made a
year ago. And that leads to a touchdown, and you're

(53:45):
seeing good decision making out of Dak, very very professional
and you're matching up against some cornerbacks here Kenchroll Clark
and Marco Wilson, where it's just you're gonna find some mismatches.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yeah, And I guess you could look at it a
couple different ways. But I give credit to Jonathan gan
In for this team has been competitive in the first
two weeks, but it could kind of weigh on an
organization then in the locker room when you have victory
stolen away from you two straight weeks and now you
potentially have a buzz sausage, was like the worst time
to get the Cowboys because they are feeling invincible and

(54:20):
I think this game is Yeah, this one's got a grizzly,
grizzly final score attached to it. I believe when we
talk about it such underdog, certainly.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Not this week points that's the opposite. Everything is just
fast for them, right, It's a college spread.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
I love it. They're moving fast, the tempo like everything's fast.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I thought they again, and I'm a bigger McCarthy fan
than you guys, but I just thought that entire team
and Dan Quinn, they were so ready for the Jets
on both sides of the ball. And if you if
you were you're watching that game, Bob sala And and
Nate Hackett, like, man, they just they just took it
to us. And they had a quarterback playing at high level.
And we don't Speaking of Mike McCarthy, who's a Beyonce fan.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
I mean, I'm a fan. I certainly listen.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Best super Bowl halftime show I've ever seen that. I
don't know if Greg and I.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Are in the and that was a huge ye know,
I was a huge Lemonade guy.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
I am.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I'm the one person that defends the Carters album, you know,
the one person I like, I feel like no one likes.
I was like, I feel that's not got a lot
of spins, Like I wouldn't say that's.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
High in the streaming. Still, yeah, I'll still I think
I think Lemonade is one of the great albums of
the last ten years. Which it's bonkers to me. Eric,
your your wonderful wife saw Beyonce in Vegas and and
she doesn't play Lemonade at all on this tour, which

(55:50):
gets me mad.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
Yeah, my wife mainly had she didn't really have a
problem with the song selection.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
She had a problem with her the area she was
sitting in not hyped enough for the You gotta be
hyped up the Beyonce show long way to get to
the point that Beyonce is playing at at and T Stadium.
And of course you asked the head coach of the Cowboys,
you're going to see Beyonce? No, but my family's going.
It's a work night. For me. It's a work night, okay.

(56:20):
And guess who's doing a lot of work right now
leading maybe the best team in football. It's Michael party Zaddy.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
I'm totally with you. Like I think one of the
things I like really wondered about.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Work night Rosenthal focus.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I don't know what if he could if he would be
a better play caller than Kellen Moore, And I think
so far it's like there's.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
No I felt that was super overblown this summer, Like
the Texas Coast offense is humming right now, baby, I
big time.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
If they have a season that goes away, it looks
it's going right now. I will really remember how they
talked about canceling the joint practices in the training game,
and we were there.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
We could see it with our own eyes.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
We saw it, guys, where this is the guys that
they're gonna be a great team. When guys they said that, like,
we don't want another team to come in here. This defense,
in this offense, that's the best competition we could possibly
face every day.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
We don't need anything else.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I was like, whoa, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Oh my sir, they're gonna go to the Super Bowl feeling.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
But think about it. I know the Cowboys and a
lot of people probably agree with you. It's been almost
thirty years, and I'll tell you what, we've been too
much of super Bowls. We're very lucky the Cowboys would
juice that up and you get the Jarra bus rolling
all over Las Vegas.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
I've wanted it for for a long time.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I really wanted a Tony Romo super Bowl back in
the day. I love those Tony Romo teams. But I
even that that rookie Dac Year. I thought that would
have been fun. Let's do it, all right? Fine, this
team of a No, we cannot you cannot do that.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
I'm not really they.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Read for them, but it would be all right, Greg,
you are.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I see what this little sneak, sneaky guy did over here.
But what by taking shiks games? I see that corner
in your mouth going up. He took both the ships
games three, the two of us are getting three. Such
as a bad luck dude.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I respect. I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
He took hold on.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
You gotta take the beat, hold on, hold on number one.
There's nothing, there's nothing like entirely genuine that I would
pick Falcons Lions, and then I took it and had this.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
He knew I was coming that.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
If you look at it, he has a script replying
to the criticism. I'm sure with highlighters and everything.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
I'm gonna I'm gonna taken because of I'm I'm strange.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
I'm gonna go Broncos Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Actually, that's a fun game Broncos Dolphins on Sunday as
my second early game. I want to see if Jalen
Phillips is back in this game for the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Bradley Chubb was great last week.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
That was against the Patriots offensive bad Ginkle like they
were much better in terms of their pass rush and
their defense. Going up against Russ another, you know, potentially
tough matchup where his offensive line doesn't. When I mentioned
it wednesday, Mike Muvinchi's really struggled for them. I don't
see it with Russ right now. There's some great throws,
but he had those great throws last year in the

(59:19):
second half of the season two. It's not like he
was like the worst quarterback in the league. But last
week there was a sequence where he threw potential interceptions
on two straight plays. He took two big sacks inside
the fifteen yard line with the game running down. His
fumble in the first half turned the game around, and
it was one of two plays that stuck out with

(59:41):
me where he was trying to get to the sideline
and he couldn't quite get it.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
We saw the other one late in the game.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
And so he also missed the slant inside the ten
yard line with about two and a half minutes ago
that was just wide open. He hurried it because of
the pressure. And I don't think things are perfect around him.
I think the coaching's good, but the protection and the
weapons are iffy and right now I don't see Russ
being able to overcome that. And and I think the
Dolphins could punish him if they have this past week.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
You said he seems like more or less the same.
I think he's definitely there's an uptick here. Maybe it's
just the play callings better, a little better. Yeah, whole environment.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
I mean it's a lot of negative plays last week.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Sure, but he also dropped two beautiful dimes to Marvin Mims.
He can do that. They you know he is And
those are money shots. Those are vintage rush shots. You
can't give a lot of credit for a hail Mary.
But he put that ball up. He's got, as the
great TD once said, a sexy deep ball. But yeah,
it was notable. You noticed his inability to get to

(01:00:39):
the sideline. I hated the first fumble. He's like calling
it that he was down by contact instead of scrambling
to recover the damn ball. That kind of stuff is uh,
if you're a Broncos fan, he's driving you crazy. And
and then one thing, there's a bit of a snowball
thing with Russ in this Broncos air of his career,
where you saw that game starting to slip away and

(01:01:01):
instead of him being able to make big plays, you're
having those like really ugly three and out drives and
danger throws and it's just like really so like, yeah,
I think I think he is maybe just not a
difference maker at this point. And and that's what they need.
And that's why again you look at what's Sean Payton's
decision is going to be made at if they're zero

(01:01:22):
and three after this week and they're or they're one
and six and a few weeks after, this is russ.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Long for this offense. I mean, I think that we've
talked about this, that it all along. I think Sean
Payton is going to be tempted to make a change.
I mean, it just seems like the there's a little
bit of frustration between them too. There's this whole like
I want him to wear the play call in his
wrist now Russell Wilson doesn't want to do. It's like
every week Sean Payton is creating a verbal a symbol

(01:01:49):
that verbally that there's they're not aligned. And it was
like that was obviously like this is Miami's gone to
and O by being on the road, they are now
in steamy hot Florida and you're taking a team from
a high altitude Denver, Like that's a little bit of
a rough trip even just in terms of environment. I
would say this like Jill and Wattle, a little banged

(01:02:11):
up Tyreek Hill, a little banged.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Up a concussion in practices.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
That concerns me because, like I think when they're there,
everyone else obviously is just so much more utilized around
them in the correctly slotted Like you can't have one
of those guys go. The Dolphins have been like unsolvable
on offense, and it's kind of like they're a fascinating
watch to see what team, which defense can kind of
come in and make life very frustrating for Tua, like

(01:02:36):
a number happened a number of games last year, but
they got out of the gate quickly. The only little
thing and we noticed this on Sunday Night, Like Tua,
some of the center quarterback snap exchange has been a problem.
They fumbled in Week one after a nice long drive
and like Connor Williams because it was we were gonna
MGD in the screening room, and it's like you went
from guard to center, and for us, it's just like cool,

(01:02:58):
that's fine that you just play. You're just playing a
different positions. Like it's kind of like asking Dan to
come in and not be a podcast host, but like
run complex Excel spreadsheets, Like it's like it's a new skill.
You could probably do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I mean, it's not your like sitting on this side
of the table and in someone else hosting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I'm just saying like, it's like you're still part of
the company, but we're changing your position entirely. It's not
that easy to go play center if you've never done it,
and there's been problems.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Let's see the Dolphins last week against the Patriots, a
top flight defense. Yeah, they still still put up almost
four hundred total yards and I think this is going
to be one of those look out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
They could have more too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I feel like the Patriots is mostly unforced errors by
the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Watch Out six and a half points is the bleeding
edge of the lock zone. And yet I have Eric
Roberts telling me there's somebody that wants to chime in
with something.

Speaker 7 (01:03:52):
Yes, guys, no video submission this week though, but the
Westling broad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
From Cincinnati very quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
It was Snake's birthday yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Been that wasn't quiet. That exchanged.

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
There was a lot that was a spicy. There is
talk about you know who's actually making these picks. He
did say we will be locking.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Up the Dolphins. Okay, so maybe there's some peace in
the zoo.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
I would bet there's the need.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
What it looks like a safe pick on paper, But
I would I would, I would hazard to go back
to the archives. I don't necessarily think like six point
favorites have done that much better than three point favorites
in this exercise.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
It's not that big. You would think if the brothers
they fight like cats and dogs at the zoo, Yeah,
it's a problem. However, they do love each other, and
I think after the madness of locking up the Jets
on the road, maybe there was a come to Jesus,
brother and brother, like give the way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
It's a cornered animal. Game three. You can't go and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Salmon Ary howell when it's time on Thanksgiving a break
bread and chop it up, Like, no matter what they
don't see eye to eye on they at the end
of the day their blood.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
You put the differences behind you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Sam's Terry, Nick, Phil, I think it's all peas in
the pod. Let's take a break and we'll be right
back with the rest of the draft. All right, we're
back back to Zeusser. You know, Mark, this is a
team at the end of the day. And I'm glad
Greg called you on that because the public should know,
Like it was one thing to be texting me at

(01:05:23):
the vet when my dog's life was hanging the bounce
about football. I've apologized for that that I could, and
and Greg trying to earn a living on live television.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
It wasn't so much about what I was doing. It's
more of the emotional weight.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
We're not going to be a repeat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
But here's the thing we we we let you off
the hook for that and said we understand you're a
complex man and you're an emotional man. But then to
turn around twenty four hours later and stab us in
the back. That was a little bit of a need.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
To understand what it is you're accusing me of. I
would imagine something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, Greg, help help.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Now we're going to have three games while you don't
because because you took chocks games.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
It's it's it's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Don't you don't you think that I'm addressing the previous
issue that we had by creating a more calm uh streamline.
Sunday is one of those you get messages from me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
You're not there in the mornings, uh necessarily, but I'm
going to be there and I do want to COMMERRK.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Did you just hear what the sociopath said? He's now
building an entire ecosystem, like building blocks onto See, aren't
you actually happy that you're doing more work? So I
won't be crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I mean, from a certain point of view, I think
I've made a good point.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Yeah, I think it's been there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I mean I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Impressed the first of all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
First of all, this is some like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Usual suspect stuff going on right now, where like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
I think there's going to be a you know, a
branch of the audience that realizes I was just cunning,
Like you could have blocked me from doing what I've done,
and I'm not going to apologize for it because it
was next level.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
There's also a branch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
It's actually this guy in Chicago, Larry, and he's listening
for the first time.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
He has no idea what we're talking about, well, no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Fast forward fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So I love it. Mark. I have to say, like, oh,
old wacky, irreverent Mark. He's doing his own thing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
But the whole time Falcons lights. First of that, that's interesting,
and then the old dirty.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Dog, old dirty Dog is back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I did pick games. I want to watch those, so,
but you're not going to be their next We're getting
we're getting too far on the weeds here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
All right, I am up and I will go with
I need to grab a late game because I have
so many games i'm responsible for now, the way this
all happened, I'll grab the Bears at the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Don't have any other choice. The other two have been taken.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah, let's talk about let's talk about the Bears real quick.
The Bears. There's some weird stuff going on the Bears.
So of course we hit on the Wednesday show. Uh,
Justin Fields coming out and more or less pointing fingers
and uh and saying that he's thinking too much in
the pocket, he's not being himself. And he then was

(01:08:04):
asked a follow up question and said, yeah, it's the
kind of the coaching might be the culprit. He obviously
walks that back once the media blows up, which, by
the way, this is a big part of being same
thing happened. If you remember Zach Wilson after a bad
game last year. Part of being a young franchise passer
is knowing how to handle adversity and saying the right things.

(01:08:25):
It's like an underrated part of the job. And this
is a hard lesson. Justin Fields is learning in real time.
Here's Justin Field's trying to put some of the toothpaste
back in the old tube.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
I love you guys, but you know I get that
you guys' jobs are to get clicked.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
So it's like, oh, stop it, wait, stop it right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
To get no no, no, no, no no there because the
rest of it actually had no context where I think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
We're gonna play it, Greg, But I don't. I don't
like the setup there because right there he's already saying
it's the media's fault and you turn this into something
no bud like, I'm gonna listen to it, Greg, But
when that's the way you set it up, you're saying
you're the ones that made this a story. I didn't
really do anything now here. I am clarifying the mess

(01:09:10):
that you made. Yeah, and it's again it's an accountability situation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Yeah, telling them they just want clicks. It's like kind
of also saying their entire trade is sort of figure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
You said you're not thinking, and then you and a
follow up question said, yeah, the coaching is playing a
part that was out of your mouth. The media's job
is to report upon what you say and then give
it context for all right, let's listen again.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
I love you guys, but you know I get that
you guys's jobs are to get clicked. So it's like
when you take my quote out of context, when when
you just say that, if you paint the picture on
the inside out, like y'all are trying to split it,
split us up as a team.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I'm not blaming anything on the coaches.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
I'm never gonna blame anything on the coaches, never gonna
blame anything on my teammates. I will take every whatever
happens in the game, I will take all the blame.
I don't care it's a drop past, it should have
been a past.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Put it on me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
But never will you hear anything come out of my
mouth to where I will blame it on somebody else
in this organization, my teammates.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Never will you hear that. But he did, he did
do that, and but it's the media's fault.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
I think I think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
There's something in between though, too, because the question literally
prompted him with is it coaching? And and he answered
it and he said, I think that's fair to point out.
And I did watch that whole press com and he
goes on about it, and he says that, and then
he takes accountability afterwards with saying I need to do
a better job. So I agree, heed, he does need

(01:10:35):
to do a better job answering this question. But it's
also he wasn't just throwing the coaches under the bus.
Like the context was. They phrased it in a way
that said is coaching part of it? And he said yes,
and he said and I'm also part of it too,
which is the truth. But I think it's also it's like, hey,
I think like he should try to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Take it when you're the quarterback, Greg, I get it, so.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
The franchise in a better way, But I don't think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Like to take the bullet. Sometimes, even if you don't
always have, you don't share everything because it causes more
drama for the team. And I just think it's a
bad look in terms of accountability to say what he
said on Tuesday and then the next day come out
and say it's your fault the media, here's the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
It's like, so that's the thing, Like it's like it
is fair. I think for some of these players that
learn this this way by stepping in it that like
most people aren't going to want to read the full
entire passage that you said verbally the day before. They're
going to see the headline. They're gonna think you're hitting
out at your coaching staff. The Bears are a hot mess.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
So for it was, but he was so.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
But from that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Angle, I see what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
But he just can't. You just don't don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Do this again. You're buying his version of the I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
What I'm saying is it's he should have He's it's
a learning right moment for a twenty four year old
who answered, and that's who answered the question honestly, and
also in the same press conference was talking very he's
kind of opening in his heart of like I'm being
robotic and I'm going through this like he's struggling through
it publicly, And you're right, I think you'll learn from

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it not to not to answer in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
That there's no like long history of Justin Fields being
anything but a good teammate. And like he said stuff
like this before, like put it on media, blah blah blah.
He just you can't do this every week. You can't
be the headline everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
And I think, but when he's even saying I'm being
robotic and there's too much going on in my head.
That was coded language for the coaching staffs is putting
too much. And then he went out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Part of his coaching, which is which matters to me,
So that part like does matter to me sometimes the
like there's a fake taking blame for everything. That is
also as you know, people love it, but when it's fake,
it's also not helpful.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
It's not honest.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
When I believe it is helpful sometimes, like if the
Bears have a fireway to do it. If the Bears
have a fire in their locker room, Okay, I think
part of the quarterback's job is not to put gasoline
on that fire and make it more of a public situation.
Like he needs to do what he needs to do
behind the scenes to get on the same page with
the coaching staff, not making a story because that is

(01:13:04):
a distraction that causes more drama and that fuels maybe
doubt in that locker room when the quarterbacks out telling
the media how he truly feels like and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I'm not gonna do this every week.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I'm saying I'm not killing him because he is a
he's a kid, and he's learning how to be this
way but the thing, I guess you could say it
was triggered by but it's just like when he opens
his his cleanup by saying, you guys did this not me?
I was like, Okay, that's and that's not even the
only thing that's going on with the Bears. Because Alan Williams,

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after some mystery, he wasn't on the sideline for the
Bears the defensive coordinator last week, he suddenly resigned as
their DC, the team announced on Wednesday, And Greg and
speaking of media and how the sport's covered, there's some
potentially ugly business about like how people throw things out
there without any true sources, and there was some things

(01:13:56):
going on about the law enforcement rating the Bears complex
they had to officially deny, and maybe there's more that
will come out of the story, but as from where
we are right now, that was all bogus. There was
some like Dob Kleinman types out there throwing a bunch
of junk out there and then it caught viral, and
that was just like an ugly learning lesson I think
for everyone that just like you got to trust the

(01:14:17):
insiders on stuff like this and not necessarily just what's
floating around the internet. All we know right now is
it was explained to be a family health issue and
he's leaving the team. Nothing more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Big media lesson day for everyone yesterday. A lot happening
right and there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
There might be class to Northeastern You.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
The more to this story.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
That is a completely different story than the bogus rumors
that were out there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
That wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
It has been a strained situation where the Bears reporters,
the ones you can trust, we're given the clear impression
it was not a health issue when he disappeared last week,
and so we don't know what happened here, but he's
gone from the team, and it just is another indication
that this organization is spinning its wheels and it's been

(01:15:09):
one of the worst, you know, organizations in the NFL
for a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
And oh, by the way, they're left tackle. They're really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Surprise rookie pick last year is uninjured reserve now like
their left guard. So that that, to me, just from
a football vantage point, was a pretty massive deal for.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
This It's the Chicago Zoo, or you could call the
Chicago Fire right now. Weird that they named like an
MLS team Chicago fire because that was a horrific tragedy
in the history of that city that I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Don't think they're pointing to that necessarily, but you're right,
it's hard to eat. They parallel.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Maybe they got to be pointing to it. They can't be.
It's not like they hadn't heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
But that job by year, it's almost.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Like they're taking ownership, reclaiming the uh, the fire. Anyway,
the Chiefs are in this game. Yeah, the Chiefs are
in the game too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Uh. And by the way, football Twitter or football Ax
does have a lot of videos out there of justin
fields with like open Ric is just sitting there and
we're talking about that he's not making the reads and
he said he's gonna open it up. That's an interesting
reason to watch this game. Do we see just I
think we're gonna see him runing football a.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Lot four yards last year to that and hopefully he
can stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
And the Chiefs, I think there's something here Gregy like
the offense week one and so he's a little funky
in the Detroit and the drops and missing Kelsey. But
week two they could not get it going in Week
two either on offense, so they can have a breakout.
This seems like a great setup for it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
If they don't put up thirty plus in this game,
something's seriously wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Yes, it's one of the reasons I love this job.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Like the Chiefs coming back this year, like you would
think there's a lot of carryover, but these teams really
do change.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
The defense is different. They've given up twenty three points
combined in two weeks against the Jaguars and the Lions.
Fourteen against the Lions offense, nine against the Jaguars. Chris
Jones looked amazing. Their linebackers are great. Lajerius Sneid weirdly
as the one guy struggling. He doesn't look right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
So their defense, this I think, is going to be
the best defense of the Patrick Mahomes era, and yet
through two weeks it's clearly the worst offense he started
ninety six games. Chiocopatia of The Ringer pointed this out.
Last week's start was ninety six out of ninety six
in success rate of any start he had, and the
first game Week one was ninety second out of ninety six.

(01:17:17):
So two of the worst offensive games of the Mahomes era.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
What's worse about the offense from last year. I think,
first of all, like the enemy's gone, but he didn't
call the plays.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
I don't think it's to be enemy thing. I mean,
I think that's it's going to take time. But they tackled.
You were hoping Kadarius Tony was going to be a
so called number one wide out. They don't have that guy,
like you're You're.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
They didn't have that last year either, right, Juju was valued.
I thought it was a little much to put this
on Juju.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
It's not so much like the parts they had last
year this year, but like he spread it to a
different people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I think I think we got maybe a fifty Burger's great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I think they'll be okay, But I think it's okay
to at least believe that by the end of the season,
maybe they're not that you of old and that they're
trying to win in slightly different ways where they're like
the sixth best offense but the ninth best defense, you
know what I mean, Like that they're not this unbelievably
other worldly offense.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
So that's kind of what I thought last year was
going to be. And then Mahomes put up some of
his greatest numbers ever with an otherwise pedestrian offense. So
that's what I mean, Like, what has changed? You still
have Andy Reid, still have Pat Mahomes, you know. Yeah,
the tackles need to be better. I'm you know what,
it's a fifty Bokay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
It's September twenty first, I'm nothing to get too concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
About the Chicago Bears going to Arrowhead to try to
fit and the Chiefs are like trying to figure themselves
out what a get right spot for that offense? All right?
That leads back to me again, doesn't it. It is okay?
And by the way, credit to WGN TV on that
fields video.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Did we mention the Chiefs are twelve and a half favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
That is a lot of wood to lay the other game.
I gotta grab another one, thanks Mark. The Saints at
you after, Yeah, Saints at Packers kind of like it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Yeah, that's a fun one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Saints getting two in this one. I like the Saints more.
I liked our car Moore. I think they're interesting. They're
running now, they're there. Depth chart in the is getting
tested more because Al mcquarter is one game left on
the suspension and now Jamal Williams. I think he's got
a hammy that it doesn't maybe look so hot.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Sounds like it might be a multiple weeks for him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Wolf, So you're gonna not have much of a running
game here now. The Packers famously struggled mightily stopping the
run against the Falcons in Week two, but I don't
think that's gonna be as big of an issue. I
do want to see the Packers. Are we going to
get healthy? Are we having our guys back yet? Christian

(01:19:48):
wattson Aaron Jones, because I think that's gonna make a
hell of a dividence. And I've been very interested in
the quarterback Jordan Love so far. What would he look
like with a full compliment against a defense?

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
I guess I guess what like you could say is
sort of a quiet positive about not having like Watson
in there early on, is that Jayden Reid I thought,
has looked really good. Dontavian Wicks is making plays for them,
like there's such a young offense. We've talked about that
a lot on NFL Plus on Money when we looked
at that Falcons game. You're not gonna have to deal
with b John Robinson in this situation. I think Green

(01:20:22):
Bay's defense uh got worked over last week by that
ground game. But I see things to like and it's
like we're in another universe. Kway Walker has like multiple
scores this season versus having dropped that what all these
their little mistakes last week ritters you know, to two
balls that absolutely should have been picked off. One of
them should have been a pick six, if not both,

(01:20:43):
Like that game is entirely different.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Despite missing their four of their best players on offense.
I think that, yeah, it's almost been undersold how efficient
they've been without those players.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
I think, especially when like the there was a terrible
sack on Jordan Love that you can track right back
to the absence of David Baktiori. The ground game with
Dylan was a mess, and that goes right back to
the absence of Jones. So if you get these guys back,
and if you get Watson back at wide receiver, it's like,
I think we barely even started to see what Green
Bay can do. And like I'm on board with Jordan Love,

(01:21:16):
like it's not perfect, but like this is we of
all the scenarios we could have gotten with him six
months ago. It's like you'd have to be You'd have
to say. This is a positive start for him.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
And this is actually his first Lambeau start, which surprised me,
but all his starts have been on the road. I
think this is fourth NFL start. I am intrigued watching
him because just physically he's he's in the Josh Allen
hype and he's not that kind of runner, but just

(01:21:48):
the arm strength and the physicality.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
I love the way he runs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
He kind of looks like Aaron Rodgers on some of
the it's like he's been watching him when he's running
to the right and everything. I guess mean he's a
you can see why he went in the first round
this fite not being the most accurate quarterback. So he's
a fun watch and he's been getting protected quite well.
We'll see if that happens this week. In terms of
things change, I mentioned it with the Chiefs, like this

(01:22:13):
lion or the Saints defensive line to me is much
better this year than they were a year ago. You
still got Cam Jordan who just refuses to age. It's
got a podcast by the way on NFL Media now them.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
And he's still like he refuses to age.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
But the two guys that have been added to the
mix in terms of their impact. Brian Bresci, a somewhat
surprising first round pick to me, is really playing well
at defensive tackle for them, looks like a nice fine
anything else. I think both these fan bases are really
optimistic and like think their team is much better than
the national consensus, and they both might be right, and

(01:22:48):
so I think it's an interesting matchup for that that
if you're looking for a surprise team in the NFC
to be like what they're in the divisional round or
what they're in the conference championship, I think these are
two pretty nice candidates.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Very nice. Okay, Mark, do you want to Yeah, maybe
we should talk. Maybe could take one of these early
games off my hands so we have the top coverage
possible for audience.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
We'll discuss that a later time, because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
About the audience in the end, you know, and the
product that we can give them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
We'll talk, we can discuss that. I'm not sure I
fully buy into that concept at all, but don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
This is this is the best part of the show.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Greg, Greg you're up, all right, I'm gonna take Tech
Texans Jags.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
You know, I think that's three out of three weeks
that Chris Myers and Robert Smith is calling the third
for me.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
Game.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Slave if you have three games, that's the third one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Texans Jags would be better if if the Texans were healthier,
But they lost Derek Stingley to a hamstring injury in
practice in practice, like these injuries happen in practice too,
and it sounds like he might be out multiple weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Jalen Petree still has that chest injury.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
They might get Justin Reid back, but that secondary I
was so excited about they gone their offensive line.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Marks talked about plenty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
They gone like they've just had They've been hurt by
injuries as much as any team in the league, and
they're not a team that can afford that. But I'm
still excited to watch the two quarterbacks in this game.
I want to see Trevor Lawrence bounce back from from
a down week from him and really that whole offense,
and I want to see if Stroud can keep it going.
Because you talked about lipstick on a pig earlier. Dan,

(01:24:33):
if you've got a rookie quarterback that's showing some promise,
it's like, oh, it's fine if you're the one of
the three worst teams in the league again for the
third straight year under Nick Cassira, Like it almost all
doesn't matter if CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Stroud's looking good and he does, I mean he if anything,
is just producing, Like I'm not in love with Like
I was so high on Damian Pierce coming into the year,
and like their ground game has been a mess. Laramie
Tunzel practice Thursday. Has that knee situation that's needed. I mean,
their offensive Linechlok's strength has been hit by that injury
bug in a huge way. Jacksonville, Man, they should have

(01:25:05):
beaten the Chiefs a week ago, Like it's that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Those A lot of people said that the last five
or so.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Yeah, but those two but those two like end zone
passes where it's like an inch difference, and you've beaten
the Chiefs and it would have been a massive victory
for the franchise. I still think they're one of the
AFC's better teams. Uh, Like it was a bit of
a down performance for Trevor Lawrence, but like their defense,
which I thought was a massive weak spot, did pretty
well against the Chiefs. They should have won that game.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
You gotta take care of business here. It's like a
division matchup. Is this the one where the Texans would
always beat the Jaguars again and again and they finally
ended that I believe late last year because it doesn't
really make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Here, right What have we got for the spread on those.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Nine points for the Texans. No one's buying into that concept.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
It's disappointing because you wanted to see what Demigo Ryans'
impact could be, and I think it's a little hard
to evaluate based on the injuries that they've had for
him to be asked to do it with all these backups.
Offense will be though. I think I like their coordinator
so far. Bobby's look like it looks like an offense.
It makes some sense.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Okay, okay, okay. By the way, if you're that's your game, Greg,
count how many times when Fox goes to commercial break
if they play a classic rock song. Okay, clock how
many times Rob Robert Smith goes, oh yeah, a little
lead Zepp or oh little zz Top on a Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
You are not into his performance on the I mean
it's I gotta be listening to it on my my
third earbud.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
I don't know where I'm putting it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
I'll tell you where to put it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
But so we'll see if I hear that or not,
or if that one's un mute.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Little Steven Tyler Boston's own. It's like, all right, Rob,
we get it. You listen to Q one O four,
all right, one more games.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Colts are Ravens. We got here, Ravens, Colts getting eight points.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Watch this game.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Absolutely, I'm gonna be zone.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
He watched it is watching some of Marcus actually only
has one game on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
I mean you have to say that if I knew
this morning and I could do literally anything that would
get under your guys skin to this degree, it's been
an absolute win, huge victory, great draft.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Chicken farms just farming things out. Arthur Perdue over here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
We're feeling good about our draft. The organization is feeling good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Kaiser.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
So I think was the better analogy because it's like
I suddenly looked back at Knicks games and I was like, oh,
I'm matching, and then I look at him and he's
just got this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
To Chaz Promonary dropping the coffee cup shattering on the ground,
it's it's David Eely dropping the coffee cup.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
I think you need to, you know, take a look
in the mirror on how you strategize.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
What we needed to block you on that. Yeah, okay,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Now we know all right, we go, Greg, Now we
know we know there's treachery afoot every Thursday after you
can do the same to me next week.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
You know, you do know?

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Now I know. I for so long it was wolf
pulled over my eyes, But now I understand.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
No Anthony Richardson in this potentially no practice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
That's such a bummer. I'm so bummed out about that,
because God, you watch those first two quarters and it's like,
this is happening. This guy is going to be the
rookie of the year, and the cults are cults are
going to hang around and be a fun watch. And
Gardner Minshew's one of the very best backups in the league.
So I think the Colts can still hang around. But
Richardson adds that element of there's a certain qua sure, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Just not going to get from me, and you you
just against them two games in a row to start
his career where you're exiting with don't want potentially disturby situations,
and it's like it's a their offensive line's been better.
I would say like that was sort of an X
factor coming into the year because they completely melted down,
like good players along the offensive line played completely not

(01:29:12):
up to their ability a year ago, and it's like
it's they look better coached. I think they're pretty well
coached in general. Like I think the stiking thing is working,
but this game, I'm kind of surprised is still here
at the end because I think the Ravens are one
of the more intriguing on offense, one of the more
intriguing kind of week to week viewings and propositions, And
like Lamar Jackson looked good to me, just looked really good,

(01:29:33):
and like Zay Flowers is absolute difference maker. Odell is
not practicing this week, We'll see what happens with that,
but Zay Flowers makes all the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Is by Lamar to just put that fifty five yards
on a dime, like without much elevation. He looks so
good right now. That is what every Lamar fan has
been asking for. I don't know if it's gonna last,

(01:30:06):
but what I mean by that is like this is
a more of a normal NFL offense, for lack of
a better word, it's like it's not the Greg Roman offense,
which worked well and got Lamar on MVP. I'm not
saying that was like a bag of trash or anything,
but he's getting rid of the ball quickly. He's being
patient in the pocket when he needs to. He's mostly

(01:30:27):
playing from the pocket and making good decisions, but then
he scrambles when he needs to. He's scrambling plenty, but
there's not a ton of design runs and that's just
a nice balance. And you can kind of see how
he's more mature than he was and he has weapons
around him.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
So it's it's what we've been asking for. And so
far as week it was just the Bengals and you
were like, wow, this is a nice game.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
What you want now? Because Lamar was awesome in Week
two and he was shifty and he kind of tied
up the defense and knots and picked up big play
and the touch on his ball was great. You just
want to see it week after week.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
I do think so, because it's like this thing, it's
post Greg Roman, like, oh, they weren't gonna run the
there was you know, concept that he was going. He's
talking about throwing for six thousand yards they ran the
ball for one hundred and seventy eight yards and.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
They didn't have to at the end of a Wig game,
which was impressed.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
With thirty seven carries and he still had twelve touches
on Mark Andrews is a huge difference.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
They weren't even on the same page a lot last week,
but he had the big red zone touchdown. Nelson Aguilar
is a player on that offense. Nelson Aglar is gonna
end up with better numbers than Odell.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
That's fine and it and it shows you what a.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
God according to the pay grades. But no, but I
thought Odell was.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
I don't bit of a stretch, but yeah, this might
be a good Nelson Aguilar season.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
Pops up every now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
And they were missing their left tackle, Ronnie Stanley and
their center Tyler Linderbaum, which was such a huge concern
going into that game. And then he faced the lowest
pressure rate of his entire career. So that's that's some
good coaching, that's some good backups and left tackle with
Patrick McCarry.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
I here's a hot take.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Maybe Gardner Minshaw gives the Colts just as much of
a chance to win better just because the Ravens are
so thin at cornerback. They lost another one last week.
They're they're starting slot. Their cornerbacks on paper should be
really poor, and so could Gardner. Min should take advantage.
I don't know, Joe Burrow didn't really so I guess
probably you also, Marcus. I'll just saying that's their weakness

(01:32:17):
right now? Is that cornerback and kind of a more
accurate quarterback take advantage?

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
See, I don't think Minshew is a is a big
step down from a rookie quarterback outside of what.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Right is totally different, but he's he's played well.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Like, do you think the Colts would give up a
conditional third for Gardner Minshew?

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Would they? Would they give the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Conditional third? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yeah, because he.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Comes a second rounder. If the Jets reached the AFC title.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
You've gone and gotten the future at the positions. So
I think he'd be more sellable than in other situation.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Come back, come back to us and we'll give us
a second now, flat up, we'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
What about us at leach six or seven? Let's just
see what's shaking up.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
What about Jameis Winston?

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
You know, maybe we'll stick a pin in this for
you're the GM coming up down the line.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Sure, but I think if you get a Jets meltdown
this week about Kirk Cousins, I feel like we're the
only show on Earth that hasn't brought that one up there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
H and three.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
That you had dreams about Cousins being on the Jets
way back when I did.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Maybe maybe all right, that is that's it? All right?
Do we get the spread in there. Gotta get the
spread in there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
We mentioned that it was the Ravens are giving up
eight points.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I love to know every game. I need that spread.
Give me that spread every game, all the spreads. We
are going to be back tonight with the Giants forty
nine Ers recap Thursday Night Football and then also it's Thursday,
which means NFL Plus with special guests Colleen Wolf. Oh yeah,

(01:33:54):
that's a funny.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Make sure thanks for covering up big, big, big twelfth
birthday to Ellis Rosy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Happy birthday, Elie. Well I know you old be the call.
M m

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Mm hmm

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