Radio Row Day 3: Sandwich Props + NFL Honors reaction + Aaron Jones + Austin Ekeler

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Around the NFL podcast, It is perfectly positioned to
make their heel turn. Oh, I love that. From the
Phoenix Convention Center. It's around the NFL Arizona super Bowl
addition the Big Game. Actually, it was a clock behind

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us as we record this. The Super bowls two days,
seven hours, two minutes and twenty one seconds away. Now seconds.
If we take the heel turn, though, what do I do?
Because I've been the heel the whole time. You guys
are the bad guys for the next ten years of
this show. Have you ever watched the baby face he

(00:41):
turned baby face? But that never works when they whenever
they one way or the other of the time, when
you turn the guy face to heel or heel to face,
it's kind of a desperate move to reinvent the wrestler
before you took him into some southern territory and he's
never heard from me. I think that's where Greg sits
at this point. I think that's what the sound upset
our entire podcast, that we're at ten on the precipice

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of irrelevance around the NFL. We're right when we're feeling
our ourselves. Uh, you guys have been feeling yourselves this week,
and I'm I'm I feel feeling myself. I'm conceded very
close to the sun, flying high on borrowed wings. What
what Mark? Now? A little pop culture reference? What I

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just said? It was funny? Yeah, Greg legs wrap. So
um hey, before we get into things, we have NFL
honors recap including Hall of Fame, uh inductions or announcements.
We have some sandwich props or Super Bowl fifty seven

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to share. We have guests, good ones, some of the
best running backs in football on this show today. How
about that? How how are we gonna do? You know,
I don't know. How are we going to do? What?
As interviewers? Yeah, I don't know. Interlock getters. It's pretty
hit or miss. So it's hopefully it goes well. They're like, oh,

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the running games dead, running backs are irrelevant, not today,
not on this show. Very well done. But more importantly,
I think that one of the things that people love
about the show is the human side of it. And
I think we need to Mark address something very human
that happened yesterday. We were at a Super Bowl sware
um and um justin we couldn't help but notice that

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something seemed off with our producer or the grave digger. Yeah,
you know, I think if you get to know Justin
in general and Greg used the word yesterday, which I
think was apt um an unflappable individual on the work scene.
But then we went out socially with him and um,
something just seemed off that I would describe him as Jerry.
I thought at one point maybe he had a bomb

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attached to his body and just didn't want to tell us.
I didn't know. There was something strange. There was like
you're waiting for like a wink, like I'm in day injured,
please help me? Um? And and where are you Justin?
How are you right now? I feel good? I don't know.
I mean, I feel like this was a bit of
you guys just maybe reading a little too much into

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me being a little quiet. We're all experts at the
human conduct. I will say, I'm definitely missing my my
bay my boo. Yes it does. She's known on this show.
I mean, Justin, did you get a chance to communicate
with her after we had we heard an update on that. Yeah.
I went home from our soiree and FaceTime with her

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for about five hours. Really nice night together, just hanging
out and watched the movie together. Just like on FaceTime,
she's coming here, right, she'll be here this afternoon. And
you had a five hour conversation on FaceTime last night.
It's just like every day away from her is heartbreaking.

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So you know what, you're in love and I I
applaud you justin thank you. You know what, I'm gonna
check my cynicism at the door. I'm happy for you
as well. Thanks. That's pretty intense, though. I gotta say
that is young. The five hour thing, respect it, love it, um,
it's beautiful. How much you guys miss each other. Is

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there a chance that someone's kidnapped a member of your
family and they told them that you can't tell your
podcast host. I think there's a chance cook up a
cover story about something. Something more is happening, And we're
concerned and we and we love you. I really appreciate
and there will be better days. Justin like you're concerned

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means a lot to me. And I just appreciate how
much you want to know if if there was a kidnapping.
But no, everything's fine, everything's good. And just so people
don't think that we're raging a holes, we did actually
text justin after the event, sincere fashion and a sober
fashion to ask if you were all right? Sober feels strong?

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Sincere It was nice segment. I love you guys, so
thank you? All right good? I love you too. Butty,
you've done great work all week, first first super Bowl
in the big chair. We sort of take it for
granted because, like Mark said, um, this is a man
without flaps, unflappable but doing a great job. Two thousand

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people in England. You know it's up to two. Uh No.
Mark's text last night at eight pm was funny night, Hey, justin,
we love you. If you're really having a rough evening,
tomorrow will be new and good. And then I chimed
in with that you are not alone, and you wrote
appreciate you guys, heart, everything is good smiley face. And

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that was when he's probably been our two of his
conversation with his live in girlfriend. But that's the real
less we care about coming today. I gotta you, gotta bridge.
How do know if all of our listeners uh love
the six minute up there here, but our cameraman it's
our m v P of the week and he's been

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laughing at all the jokes. I'd love it. I love it.
He has a name. Yeah, I know, I know, but
Travis Travis. I didn't know it. Remember, and I said
yesterday percent of our show is for the listener and
two percent is for us. We're now down, okay, but
actually four percents for Travis, four ninety four for the listeners,

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for for Travis the cameraman, two for us. Like you
broke that down accurately, did it? Ad up? Um? Hey,
all right, let's get into some NFL Honors talk. Let's
hit the news Tom one seven times. He's on some beasts,
so maybe Kirk could win. Yeh, since he's been gone.

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First of all, you can really see what Kirk cousin
cousins wearing many many chains as per the bit uh
the season singing with the Great Kelly Clarkson at NFL Honors.
I thought Kelly did a nice job. By the way,
that's a good job by Kelly Closen. Yeah she did.

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She she leaned into her strength out of a challenge.
She's a great singing. Good job by huh um and
uh Cousins. And that was, by the way, a interpretation
of since You've been gone, not the Kelly Clarkson song
that you guessed, which was, what, Well, no, it's like,
please don't forget to dance, uh, when you're dancing, Like,

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but you know, Kirk Cousins just let you know. Um,
I wasn't so surprised to see that he was adequate
on stage because there was that footage that came out
of him at Holland Christian High School where he was
in a school play and you know it was made
fun of. But that's another aspect of his god given abilities.
He's a thespian. Of the of the three NFL players
who did sing him, Cameron Jordan and Kidd All, I

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think I think Kirk was the most ready for the moment.
But Kidd get awesome. You know, some hoodspot to his performance.
That's good. Kiddle loves it. He loves the stage. All right,
let's get into it. The winners of the major it's
a major award, uh, two thousand three NFL Honors. And

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by the way, Greggy, we were talking about this while
it was on in the Hotel Barrowin getting some dinner
with our producer Jason mcleinman. Um, this is nice. I
like the NFL Honors feel has come into itself and
it is nice. That the guy you know. You see,
all these guys get to go up on stage, they
get to be dressed up, they give their speeches. I

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guess it's kind of phemeral and silly, but also so
our real award shows quote unquote, like the Grammys and
Oscars and all that. Why not, right, I think, uh
like m v P is a more definitive and uh
sometimes earned award than some of some of the acting awards,
where it's like it more of an art form, like
we can almost definitively say Patrick Mahomes is the best

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player in the league. And I think putting it on
Thursday night's been a big move. He used to be
on the weekend then get a little buried. So yes,
Patrick Mahomes wins the m v P. He got forty
eight out of the fifty first place votes. Jalen Hurts
got a first place vote. Josh Allen got a first
place vote. Hurts came in So the point system they
have it was Mahomes four ninety, Hurts one three, Alan

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one one. Uh, So there you go. It was a
runaway win for the Chiefs quarterback, who will attempt to
win his second Super Bowl on Sunday. Here in Arizona. Um,
any thoughts on that? Should I just keep rolling through
the awards here getting to that quickly, especially if he
were to win like a Super Bowl MVP. That quickly

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is you know, it is worth mentioning. Completely unprecedented in
the history of the NFL. I mean to have the
team's success and the m v P success that early
in his career. For instance, it took Tom Brady eleven
years to like get get all those awards. But the
harder part is winning on Sunday. I don't know if
he's gonna do that. We shall see. I like the

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I like the voting that you get to see, like
who gets votes. Uh, it's a little weird that Trevor
Lawrence came in seventh for m v P. But I
guess that's what I have that far down and it's like,
come on, Gino Smith got a fifth place vote for it?
You know we know who cast that mote? We do?
You would? I mean, I would love it if I
had a vote. Danny Kellington, Uh, the the uh, the trainer,

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the E M T medical professional who helped with the
Bill's got a fifth place vote? How about that? Wow? Um,
that's strange Offensive Player of the Year, although that man
is a hero. I don't know who should be getting
a an MVP vote for a play on the Justin
Jefferson h one Offensive Player of the Year. Uh And

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you know what, Greg, I know you've long been down
Offensive Player of the Year as an award, but it
does allow a player like Jefferson to be recognized for
his greatness when otherwise it's a quarterback that's always gonna
take that big trophy for offensive greatness. So maybe there
is a lane for the O p. O Y Trophy
for just make it. I just think make well, why

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not just make quarterbacks ineligible for it? Then they kind
of are, though, aren't they Definitely they're not ineligible. But
Homes came in second and Hurts came in third, and
it wasn't like a blowout voter or anything. So we
could have had a situation where my home is one bolt.
I think it should be a non QB award. Can
you look up the last ten offensive Player of the
Year awards? Thank you Defensive Player of the Year Nick

(11:24):
Bosa and that uh was widely expected. Not a ton
of drama, uh man, big big, big day for my
team because the Jets win. They sweep Offensive Rookie of
the Year Garrett Wilson and Defensive Rookie of the Year
Sauce Gardner, not to mention, Darell Reeves goes into the
Hall of Fame. Jill Cleco finally gets into all the fame.

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Nice day for a fan base otherwise that doesn't get
a lot of nice days. Um, And I think it's
interesting with Sauce. I'm very happy. I would have been
really upset. Garrett Wilson absolutely can have made a case
for other guys in that category, Um, although he deserved
it as well. But Sauce I thought was truly special.
And I think it's fitting Mark Um in a lot
of ways. I remember on this very podcast in August,

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Um talking about how the way the Beat reporters and
people close to that team we're talking about Sauce and
training camp, uh, was the way they talked about Revs,
Like right away, you knew this guy is different. He's
going to hit the ground running and be a star.
And it's fitting to me. On the same night that
Sauces on the stage winning Rookie of the Year, Revis
is on that stage getting the Hall of Fame um,

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which he obviously greatly deserved as well. Very nice. Yeah,
there's symmetry and poetry to that. And you know, there
is also symmetry to the fact that Darrelle Revis never
really had a quarterback in New York and like that's
what needs to be different for that the case right
now too, and it's it's it says a lot about
Garrett Wilson to win and very deserving. I was on

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the Brock party train, but I mean, I have no
issue with him winning, and to do it with so
much quarterback carousel and chaos in New York, it says
a lot about him, just sort of that the receivers
that can do that or next level, and he already
looks like he's gonna be an absolute star for a
decade to come. So Garrett Wilson won this award because
they changed the voting procedures. Uh. Ken Walker had more

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first place votes, so in in every year previous he
would have won the award. And I'm glad they changed
the voting because Walker had nineteen first place votes. Uh,
Garrett Wilson had eighteen. It was very close. Uh, Brock
Purdy had a number of first place votes and was
reasonably close uh for third place too, but Wilson was
more consistent across the board, made all the ballots, you know,

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had more second place votes, and ended up winning by
a decent margin because and I think he was the
better option. I would have had Wilson and olave A
one too, I would have had a lava over those
other top two. I think he finished fourth. I know, Uh,
Aaron Rodgers is on his retreat right now. I'm just
gonna go. I'm just gonna try to just let him
know what's going on. Right now. I'm just gonna knocked

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gently on his door, mis retreat. I gotta tell you something,
you know what, I'm kicking the store in Aaron Rodgers.
The Jets swept the Rookie of the Year categories Let's go,
we have a future. We just need you wake up,
wake up? All right? Feel feels like that if that's

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gonna work, I feel like that would be absolutely counterproductive, right.
That is like the one he's like, I'm not going
to New York, get up anyway. Uh, Comeback Player of
the Year, Gino Smith, another well earned award. Greggy, congratulations
to you personally on that. The biggest surprise again. We're
sitting in the hotel bar. We're watching this. Uh the

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sound is off, but we hear, we see, we read
lips Gino Smith. What a moment, Gino is gonna go
up there? And Gino famously began the season in such
an exciting way where he beat Russell Wilson and the
Broncos and that much hyped uh showdown in Week one,
and then after the game had the famous quote they
wrote me off at right back. That's the problem. Right back,

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Let's go and Greggy. I was so excited to hear
what he had prepared for this and he wasn't there.
Did we get any type of update on why that
was the case. I felt like a perfect moment. You
could argue is the greatest moment in Gino's professional career. Well,
I would point out the five touchdown and performance at
the Flag football game last week, where he really was

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probably the m D p uh No. I don't know
why he wasn't there. He sent out a little tweet
many hours before, um thanking God, and that was probably
when he found out they had a Seahawks fan Joel
McHale and the seat and a fan of the Year
from the NFL, who was the Seahawks fan, uh give
the award, so they clearly knew it was gonna be

(15:49):
you know, I don't know, maybe he felt like he
had his weekend in the sun in Vegas because I
I know, you guys didn't watch a lot of the
Pro Bowl games. But it did kind of feel like
Gino was the star of the show. They really made
a big deal. They even they even asked him after
he like did the little target practice thing, like so
you you're right back yet, and he was like, still
haven't written back, And it was like maybe he felt

(16:09):
like he checked those boxes. Who knows you've got to
show up to this, I mean, unless there was something
going on that, like I mean what it's this is
the biggest thing that's happened to Gino Smith, and it's
the biggest thing might ever happen to We have no
idea if this will this play will continue to no
show on this to me is an odd move, But
I don't know why how about this? It could be

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a lot of in the midst of contract negotiations, he
goes up there with a planned, carefully cultivated speech that
like tears the house down, that makes him more valuable
to the Seahawks, like this guy, we kind of got
a start. It could have been, like you know what,
the loser of the night is, Gino Smith. Greg, you
gotta know this is ridiculous. I think him giving that

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speech could have it. You're speaking to so many other
football players that are wondering what will happen with their
careers if they're stifled right and now, if they're not
who the all who they are? And he goes and
says nothing he knows, but we don't know why. So well,
maybe we don't know. It could maybe he's uncomfortable with
all the attention. And AI don't think that he's been

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so outspoken and so like he's been. He loves he's
loved being on the mike this whole season. He could
have been the voice of the disenfranchised. It was a
lost opportunity on that front to help others, to inspire others. Dan,
we're getting Greg mad. We're gonna stop. Coach of the Year,
Brian Dable Mark, Now you take your bow. I know
you that is your boy to well, I not no,
I actually want thought that Kyle Shanahan should win this.

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But I think that Brian table Coach of the Year
is we just accept that it is narrative driven, and
he's more than a narrative. He turned what we think
about the New York Giants completely around. I think he's
difference making coach and I think he's totally deserving, and
I mean what he sort of checks all the boxes
for it. He does it. I think it is hard
for like, I mean, what what else do you want

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from coach of the here? It seems like it's never
really always the Angelo. It's not the best coach necessary.
It was that made the biggest difference for a team
in disarray to the playoffs. Shanahan was close. He came.
He came in second, Peterson. Peterson came in third. Doug,
how do you feel about this? I feel like you,
you know, you came close to the a f C
title game. He's a made a few words, and he's

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very repetitive as well. I feel like Nick Sirianni, though,
was a pretty big victim of his success. Everyone, once
you got through Week two or three, thought the Eagles
were this great team. But they were like the tenth
most likely team to win the Super Bowl in the
preseason odds. They were by far the best team, and
when you look at in season decision making, like during games,
he's really stood out there too, And he was like

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an afterthought here. He was kind of a stacked category
this year. I thought, yeah, it wouldn't really go wrong.
But congratulations to Dable. I think the deable one I
felt because they a lot of people thought that's a
four and thirteen team this year. Absolutely, I'm not saying
he's deserving. To me, I would have gone Siria one table,
all right? Any other thoughts on the big You know,

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I saw our friend Rachel Bannetta was doing the red carpet.
Did you happen to catch Rachel's song about the third
Kelsey brother? Well, talk about being in your wheelhouse? This
is what she what she's excellent at. You got a
little bit. I think it's a song for all time.
It's a classic, and there's a big gaming down. I

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got a story you might find interesting, goes a little
something like this. On the dark side of the desert
with the super Bowls to be played, someone sweeting in
the winds to join this big parade. You say it's

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the bull of brothers, but that's just not quite right.
Someone you don't know about it. Man, there's no as By.
He's the third Kelsey brother. His name is a fail,
but he works for a plus A, sells copper wearer,
and man, he sells it well. He may not have

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the muscle, and he may not have the might. He
may not be going to the Hall of Fame. And
I'll tell you he's doing all right. Could it be?
Jo told everyone that he could it be? Because all

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the girls they've loved, well done. Rachel, she is quite talented.
That Banetta. I mean, she almost annoying. She could be
singing with Kelly Clarkson. She's you know, she's got the chops.
She's she's very talented, she's funny, she's a beautiful woman.
She's got everything. Kind of It's like when I walked
in on the Kyle Brandt getting a pump in the

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gym yesterday, immediately felt inadequate on a number of levels.
And he also killed it at NFL Honors. Maybe next
year we need to may make our imprint on owners
on some level. She did the great in front of
Justin Jefferson did a good job on that too. Just
I mean, maybe Kyle and Rachel have skills that we

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don't have I know, it's been a week of us,
you know, inflating ourselves and suddenly we're polluting close to
the sun and barred wing. Yeah, you're suggesting that a
year from now you're gonna be presenting an NFL honors
like that, you are living in an alternate reality. You
know what ambition? It bites at the nails of success,
they say they do before we take a break. Here, Um,

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here the rest of the class of two thousand twenty
three Hall of him because a defensive dominated class. Uh.
And you know what's kind of cool about this? Now?
Now we're old enough. It's a lot of reasons. You know,
getting old is not great in some ways. Some ways
it is cool. Um, like when these Hall of famers
now come into um focus and like we remember vividly

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they're playing days. So Ron Day Barber, I mentioned Reeves,
your boy, Mark, Joe Thomas, Uh left tackle the Browns,
Zach Thomas, linebacker of the Dolphins, DeMarcus Where great pass
rusher for the Cowboys, and then Broncos. Uh. Don Corrielle,
this is where you love. I know West would have
an amazing, amazing, an innovator as a coach on the

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offensive side of things, and then in the senior class,
Chuck Howley mentioned Joe Cleco and Ken Riley all gets
getting nods. Congratulations to all of those men. It's cool.
And if you get a chance to watch the video
they I think Steve Weye sent it out of how
they learn that they are Hall of famers. They're now
using kind of ex players to do that knock thing

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where they find out that they get it. So it's
they're not using the big man anymore. No, well, he's
no longer running the Hall of Fame day David Baker
and uh so it's like Tayla who also played in
al Equippa same high school as Darrell Reeves. Respectful knock
Marcus Ware who to me is one of the best
pass rushers we've ever seen. I think he had to
wait a year, which that that's how good the Hall

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of Fame is. That shocked me, but it was always
it was only one year. And um, the Don Corrielle
thing is great and it was great to hear his
kids so overwhelmed by it. But it also it's a
little annoying to me when, like you know, he's he
died twelve years ago, thirteen years ago, and he was
someone who's impact was pretty obvious and clear that he

(23:29):
really changed this league into a passing league. And he
was up year after year after year. And you mentioned West.
We did talk about Don Corrielle when he kept getting shot,
you know, pushed back at this stage. So it is
great to see him, um make it, but you you
do sometimes wish Ken Riley also um no longer with
us that you know, if they were gonna make it,

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you'd love to see him, you know, make it while
there's still it seems like the barrier for some of
these coaches. So the bar for them, um is a
little bit all over the map. And it's changing though.
That's we're seeing more coaching that's getting in. He took
he took the Charges to two straight a FC title games,
and I think one of the reasons West would have
known about him and made an imprint and early in

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his life was one of those was against the Bengals
in like frigid, like negative eighteen degree weather, and those Chargers, uh,
they did not make it through that game. He changed
the game. And yeah, it used to be something where
the coach and the contributors were going against the players
and they could never get over them. Um. But he's
a man if you look compared to certainly a lot
of players that that are in the Hall of Fame

(24:31):
and are deserving. Um. That impacted the sport we see
today as much. I mean the passage of time, like
like annoyingly like I it struck me that Joe Thomas
has not played in five years. I kept thinking it
was that he had retired much more recently than that.
He's an interesting one because he was so happy and
his kids were there and they were just like we
love you when they opened the door and everything. But
like Joe Thomas, there was no mystery. He's known since

(24:54):
since like three years before he retired, whether he wanted
to think about it or not, that he was going
into the Hall of Fame and um and Kleco was
a stud for the Jets. He's the first member of
the New York Sack Exchange to fame New York Sack
Exchange to make the Hall of Fame with Gastineau, Marty Lions,
abdual Salam uh and he made the UH. He was
All Pro and multiple positions the defensive tackle defensive end

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had twenty and a half sacks in eighty one. I
think I was the year before sacks became an official statistic,
which also muddled some of those guys because sacks now
are such an important stat for certain players in the league.
Big night for the Jets. And um, now that we're
eight years out, Um, can you be happy for Darrell Revus?
And it does get a little lost to the shoffle

(25:37):
that he was an absolutely integral part of the title
that the Patriots won here in the Malcolm Butler game
here eight years ago. Be happy for what? For that
Revus got his ring, A great player and he was
people kind of forget that season he changed that defense.
It was one last kind of great season, uh for revs. Uh.

(25:57):
I think he was a second team All Pro something
like that. Terrific season and need to be happy about
I'm just saying now now that he's you know, just
for the man the Durell Rivas that he got his
ring with the paper bygones be bygones. I thought that
um Rivas, who was a kind of very shrewd negotiator.
That helps spell the end of his first run with

(26:18):
the Jets. He landed with the Bucks uninspired short term
stay there then went to the Patriots, so he chased
the ring, got the ring, came back to the Jets
in a big contract and fell off hard. Uh, and
there are questions about his effort. I didn't like in
general the end of his career. UM. So no, him
winning a Super Bowl as kind of a hired gun
does very little for me personally. The Pats was this

(26:38):
last great moment, but that was it gets a little
lost to the trouble. I was like, that was a
great hired gun. But the gist of your argument is
that Dan needs to come around and celebrating that. And
I think that's but I wasn't really expected to do
like first first team All Pro? How about that? That seasons?

(26:59):
I do like um though, and Greg who's distancing himself
as a new England sports fan. Sometimes there's the masshole
comes out sometimes and that's okay. I don't mind that
I grew up with a lot of them. Um that's good.
But I do want to just say, like, fans don't
get a lot of good things. So if you want
to come in with your six Super Bowl rings and
then try to tarnish Reevus, that's great, buddy, have fun

(27:22):
with that. But I will tarnish and what are you
talking about. Well, you're trying to say like I really
mean it, Like, no, I'm not saying he's kind of
a patriot. I'm saying he's an all time great that
got to have that that that was a big He
seems like a good guy and I'm happy. I'm sure
he was very happy to win. The ring came out
at sace Field last night. The massive came out when

(27:43):
we were we Yeah, we were at sace Field side
of game seven of one. Yeah, that was a tough
one too. Yes, I have an update on those Offensive
Player of the Year winners that you asked for fifteen
minutes ago. Very good. Before we go to break, let's
check in on this, um. Yeah. Peyton Manning quarterback also
won m vpeen to Marco Murray running back led the

(28:06):
NFL and rushing yards and rushing touch. That's when the
Cowboys like drove him into the ground because they had
no intention of bringing him back. And then he went
to the Eagles, and then he went to the Titans,
where he was second in the NFL and rushing. Two
years later, uten Cam Newton quarterback and m v P
sixteen Matt Ryan also won m v P. Seen Todd
Gurley had like scrimmage yards that year, was a machine.

(28:27):
Patrick Mahomes also won m v P. That's what I'm
talking about. Michael Thomas set the receptions record, I think
or receiving yard set a record, Derrick Henry two thousand
rushing yards one Cooper Cup. It's trending towards non quarterbacks.
But three of the last you just want to make
it official. I mean, that's that's three of the last

(28:50):
seven years the quarterbacks have gotten it. But each of
the last three we got justin Jefferson, Cooper Cup, Derrick Henry,
Michael Thomas. But in that world, then the m v
P has to be a quarterback. No, no, in this
In this world, you know, quarterbacks, quarterbacks could get left
out of the cold. I don't think that will ever happened.

(29:10):
But yeah, but aren't you to turn your vas argument around?
But aren't you just now can you say you're happy
for those players that won that Offensive Player of the
Year award that they could be celebrated that way. I'm
happy it's a big man steps forward. All right, let's
take I'm loyal to football. Let's take a break, and
we will get to our first guest star running back

(29:32):
Friday Show. All right, So on the Wednesday show, we
had big time wide receivers Friday Show, some of the
best all around running backs in the sport, and joining
us right now is one of them. He is Aaron
Jones of the Green Bay Packers. What is up, Aaron?
How are you doing? How are you doing? Thank you
all for having me like you did have run one

(29:53):
running back on Wednesday? Year old buddy Jamal, You know
you're a you have a lot to live up to
to match what he brought. Just energy. That is a
high energy guy right there. I love it, but it's contagious. Uh.
It's been a big year for you are and you're
coming off a big year. You had your um over
yards from scrimmage this season, another big year offensively. You're

(30:17):
the Walter Peyton Man of the Year nominee. Uh for
the Packers. That's obviously like a huge thing. Um, where
you where do you stand right now in terms of
your feelings about where the Packers are and where you
are with the team. Uh, I feel good where I'm
at with the team. Uh, you know, talk to Goody.
He came out and said, Uh, they want me to
want me back. Um may restructure or whatever it may be,

(30:39):
but they want me back there. So, uh, you know,
to be wanted is a great, a great feeling. And
then uh, I mean I feel like we have everything
we need there in the locker room. Uh, I feel
like we started picking it up later on in the season,
started putting it, putting it together, and uh showed that
we were capable and we got the pieces we need. Yeah,
you've been there a while now. It's kind of snuck
up on me when I looked at your your career

(31:00):
stats and stuff. You're like stacking big. You know, plus
this year's plus fift hundred yards for the script year.
After talking about his Pro Football Reference pages starting to
look beef, I'm just saying, have you been there? You
could And I know, like they kind of split up work.
And we had a friend who used to be on
our show. Chris Westling was always a huge fan. Ures

(31:20):
he always wanted more work for Aaron John's, more work
for Air. But all that's split in. Maybe it's kept
you fresh, it's kept you healthy. You're more productive than ever.
You have a chance now stack in those years you
keep coming back. You could be the Packers all time
leading rusher after a handful more years. What do you
think about that? I think the w blessing. I've made
it up to three this year. I think the top

(31:42):
two or like eight thousand, um, so I still got
a little bit, a little bit to go. But uh,
like you said, that's that is definitely one of my goals.
If I'm there long enough, I feel like I can
definitely hit that. I gotta ask you, how do you
feel about you know, when you go on Twitter or
check out what's going on in the league and you
see year old wide receiver Davante Adams trying to recruit

(32:02):
your current quarterback Aaron Rodgers to Las Vegas annoying, It's crazy.
He already broke my heart once. Take your quarterback? Ian?
Do you do you talk with Rogers at this time
of year and get an idea where he's at. I
just I just give him, give him his space, and
I'll let him, let him think. He probably already has
a lot of people in a year. What are you
gonna do? Ask him questions, let him go in a

(32:24):
silent retreat. You can contact him right now. He is
in the dark. Yeah. Is it like in all series.
You don't. You don't have to answer this, honestly, but
it'd be cool if you did. Is it kind of
like at a certain point, like, uh, every off season
now is about your quarterback and whether he's playing either
for the team or playing for another team, or retiring

(32:46):
or going into the darkness forever. It kind of dominates
everything around the Packers. It has. Uh yeah, I think
like the last three years. This is the third year,
so um, it has. That's a lot of the off
season talk. But you know, those guys in locker room,
we're were. We know we can control what we can control.
Just focus on yourself. Uh, get the off season started
and going, and uh, you know, control what you can control.

(33:09):
If he's If he's here, great, we love it. If
he's not, we'll be sad. You know. Um, well we lose,
we lose one of our leaders, one of our great
locker room guys. Um and it's you know, it's hard
to replay somebody like that. But George, I think if
does happened, Jordan is definitely ready. Uh. You you played
this Eagos defense. It's gonna be playing on Sunday. You

(33:30):
know you had, uh, you had some success against them,
I would be putting it mildly. And they they they
struggled with your running game when you kind of look
at this defense and you look at who the Chiefs
having and everything, like what did you guys do well?
And like look to attack in terms of like you
get getting the ball out of the backfield and in

(33:51):
the running game, like how how do you you approach
it against this team? We we kind of looked to
attack the Delon there Delon a little bit. They had
some like moving pieces that had guys who are uh
kind of just getting there when we played him, like Sue,
Sue was just getting there. Um, I can't remember who
else Uh they had up front of it and all
Joseph he was just getting there as well. So um,

(34:13):
we they wasn't playing as much. So He's like, let's
let's attack the D line. So I mean I feel
like that's because may have changed a little bit because
they have some vests stepping in who played in high
at a high level, so uh, they may have changed
a little bit. But just uh that and then matching
up against the backers getting in space. Uh you know
we ran some screen that pop big. Uh. They just

(34:36):
moving me around and allowed me up at three and
on a broken play, UH hit the scrambled during scored
a touchdown. So uh and just getting trying to get
vertical as quick as possible because they have a fast defense.
Those they have guys who who are swarming um and
but they're they're always in position for the most point.
But yeah, they don't quite have an Aaron Jones, but
you can do the Pacheco for the getting vertical and

(34:57):
the MacKinnon for the catching that to make it happen.
I definitely thing. I'm a huge fan of put Checko.
I got the chance to talk to him uh in
the preseason. I think it was our last preseason game,
and I saw how you played, and I just went
up to him and gave him his props and told him,
I keep going, put your head down. It'll always it'll
work out for you to put your head down and
work um and show up every day and stay consistent.

(35:20):
And that's I believe that's what he did. Because he's
he's starting, he's having a great year as a rookie.
So it makes me happy to see Mark. Can you
engage uh with Aaron for a moment here, I'm doing
some math figuring out the all time rushing record and
how we're gonna get Aaron to the Green Bay Packers
records while I do the math over here, which I
struggle with. I once got a thirty nine thirty nine

(35:41):
on the state mandated math test. I thought you about
to S A C T. I gotta focus, Uh, go ahead.
I actually was taking a little bit of look at you,
you the man, the person, and I think the Packers
could use two of you. But I realized that you
have a twin brother named Alvin Jones, And I did
some studies about twins. Right there, that's a I wonder

(36:03):
if this applies to your relationship is twins. I read
that UM, twins start interacting in the womb at fourteen weeks,
although you wouldn't know if that was the case. But
if you have U twins invent their own languages that
no one else, your own words, your own syntax. Um,
this has nothing to do with you. But I learned
that Gazelle bunche In actually has a twin sister named

(36:24):
Patricia Buncheon, So that's weird, Like how about your brother?
How about your relationship with the right it's a football
player too, Yes, he's a football player. We played together
all the way up into college. Then I left, I
got drafted, and then he went to Baltimore for two
years and now he's playing in the CFL. But um,
that a lot of what you said is true. We've
made up our own language before all of that. Uh,
you got somewhere somewhere, I can't even remember. We were younger.

(36:46):
I can't remember. Younger people were like, what are you Sam,
what are you talking? Don't worry about it. That's wild.
So you I saw you do the your foundation with
with your brother, right, and you know you're you're one
of the three finalists. Um, that's that NFL honors for
for Man of the Year. So that's next level. That's
out of the whole league. This is your second year

(37:07):
I think coming back and doing this, which is I mean,
that's amazing for such a young, uh player. A lot
of times that's a player at the end of their career, Like,
what what is that foundation about? And it's pretty cool. Yes,
our foundation is geared towards the youth and military families
and giving back to underserved communities as well. Um, you know,
we feel like the youth is the future. A lot

(37:28):
of kids are born into unfortunate situations that they didn't
they didn't ask for, they have no control over. And
uh so if I could be a resource in our
community to even the plan feel for them, or or
maybe an athlete giving them advice or whatever it may be. Um,
you know, just being that in in my community. I
wish when I was growing up, I had an athlete,
a professional athlete, who I could pick their brain. Want

(37:50):
nothing from them but just to pick their brain and
um let them know that, Hey, I can do this.
Al very cool, very cool. Alright, I figured out our target.
Here is a mod green rob Odgrede kind of went
under the reddit. I think during the five years, eight
thousand two yards okay, Aaron Jones right now is five
thousand two four rushing yards career. That leaves you three thousand,

(38:11):
thirty eight yards short of the Packers record. If you
average over the next two years what you did this year,
which is about eleven hundred, I'm thinking you could break
the record around October of the season. So we gotta
get three more years of the Packers. Most likely that
it's good lucky, that's your number thirty three. You got
them at the special Aaron Jones hats like, where are

(38:33):
you know? I don't see those that's like a special one.
This one we can't with it last year. Uh. And
then the push was like around the super Bowl last year.
So one last thing quickly, he's like, what would you
rather do in a big time game? Would you rather
run someone over and like take their manhood or make
them miss and take their manhood and have them like

(38:54):
at your feet? Why take their manhood? Looks ah, both
look bad. I guess have you gotten the scepter from
our colleague Kyle Brand? Have not got so we would
like to get one of those, and then we can
focus on making a miss that actually hurts less right,
not having alright, so you can play a little bit

(39:17):
longer like that. Aaron Jones. We are big fans of
you and and best to look like going forward with
the Packers. Thank you very much for joining us. Yes, sorry,
thank you. There he goes Aaron Jones. Jones, nice gent,
good vibe. I liked him. He'll be back, but it
sounds like there's gonna be a restructured situation there for

(39:40):
him to make it happen. Well, it sounds driven to
stay with the Packers. And achieve that record we talked about.
I was I was surprised, I was even a question.
But he does have like a twenty million dollar capit
when you're running back. But he's also coming off arguably
his best season. I think it was the highest he
ever at his yards per carry, he's healthy, he's playing everything.
So that that's one where you you push the money

(40:01):
a little bit into the future, and uh, I think
he'll be there at least two years. I liked that
he was honest about the fact that it is uh,
not only annoying for us but for Packers players to
deal with the Aaron Rodgers heightened drama year after year.
I mean basically sort of said, yeah, it's a bit
of an annoyance. I wonder if if it if this
is the end for Aaron Rodgers, who, by the way

(40:22):
it believes in now day three of his Darkness Retreat,
um he he might not know that. We heard some
speculation that this is all uh a mirage Rogers, like
this was scheduled for a couple of weeks from now,
not not the Darkness Retreat and not him wrestling with
retirement in his mind, even if he's likely to come back.

(40:43):
But the whole idea that he would leave the Packers,
that the Packers want to keep him in ultimately. But then,
you know this, it's not a mirrage because we're talking
about it show after a show. It's a tangible thing
that we have to deal with verbally. And he's under contract, right,
Why is he going through the whole rigamarole of telling
everyone that he needs to disappear for four days to
think about, Okay, the retirement thing in his own mind,

(41:05):
that's not a mirage. And who knows, maybe he'll shock
us with the retirement by him leaving the Packers. We've
you were with me that we've heard some buzz that
that's kind of all. I just don't know. I don't
know if I believe anything with this anymore. I don't know.
It's it is, it's crazy anyway, good conversation with Aaron Jones.
Let's now, uh talk to another star of the gridiron

(41:26):
who lines up behind the cort Here we go up next,
Austin Ekeler joining us now another star running back, one
of the great all around playmakers in football from the
Los Angeles Chargers. Austin Ekeler, Welcome to around the NFL.
We're welcome back. Yes, I remember the first time you
were on the show with us. It was remote and

(41:48):
I was really struck by the logo that you had
behind you. I think it's your home set up, and
I just I want to say with Austin Neckler that
I notice the logos on point I of that you
have a signature touchdown celebration, the guitar squeal move, which
is not only memorable, but like kids can easily emulate
it at the playground. This is all subtle brand building

(42:12):
and I'm here for this guy. He's onto me absolutely. Man.
Well thanks for having me back on the show in
person now. Um, but yeah, you know, there's there's an
art to right, right putting yourself out there and right
trying to brand yourself and represent something. So yeah, I'm
I'm all about it. Well, Dan's been trying to become
a hair influencer for many years, um, and I think

(42:32):
he once got like a free tube of jet Tube.
I got. I got several palettes of redkin Work hard
molding paste in two thousand sixteen, so that was cool.
It's the same thing. It is. It is pretty nice though,
like you can't really get the full beauty of it. Remotely,
I can see that though you got the nice little
sush going there, like the swush J Williams was talking
about that, there's some silver in there and that's distinguished.

(42:55):
They say, But enough about me, Austin. I look at
your your workout videos that you do, and I think, like,
as a as a small somewhat lazy man myself, like,
what would you give me, um like if like without
any actual weights, what's the laziest way like thing that

(43:15):
I could do personally? Yeah, to get into it. That's yeah,
that's because that's gonna be a good stepping point for you. Right.
I don't think I'm ever I've it's I've never like
joined the gym or done that. So I feel like
always about the gym. It's about staying active, right. You
want to be able to move when you're seventy years old. Yeah,
so you want to be able to stay active and
have your joints feeling good. You don't have any problems

(43:36):
because you sat around all day forever for the last
you know, all your years. And so for me, the
most lazy thing that you could probably do that's going
to keep you active. I mean, would I would say,
like going on like walks. When I do that, I
do a lot of running. I do a lot of running.
But that's yeah, thinking more like you know, to make
me look a little less um dominutive, you know, jump rope. Okay,

(44:00):
see that's what it was looking for. Here's another aspect
to Greg and and to Dan like a number of
years ago. Um, I attempted to get into all this,
and I think you were in this in this world too.
I did Beach Body and was ripped. Yeah. See that's
so so I was ripped mercilessly show after show for it.
And that sound drop of plays just tell them that

(44:20):
they're in the wrong. On the body. There was there
was talked about a lot that well, there was its
own sound absolutely there wasn't for like a year. Yeah,
there was a female spokesperson that we we were wondering
if Mark was in it for the working out or
just to be closer to Amber Caliberiz. Hey, we all
have our own motives. You know. You don't question people
as long as they're going judgment. No judgment had like

(44:43):
turned into like a Ponzi scheme or something, you know. Okay,
so this iss okay, good, good, good, good good you
played this, uh, this Chiefs team, and you you guys
have been quite productive offensively against this Chiefs team. So actually,
like you, maybe more than any running back in football,

(45:06):
has an experience of knowing what to do and and
maybe how to attack this Chiefs defense with some success.
What what would you what would you say to the Eagles, Like,
you gotta have the ball at the end? Okay, well, yeah,
that's that's what it is. That's what it is. You
have the ball at the end, right, And so how
do you control the games offensively? You got run the ball.
You gotta be able to run the ball. If you
can run the ball, you control the clock, right, You

(45:26):
limit possessions that you're gonna give away potentially, and then
you have a better chance to have the ball at
the end. And so man, it's it's tough. They're they're
so sticky, like the Chiefs are so sticky, like they're
always in it at the end, right, Like we've seen
it was just seconds on the clock, go down and
get into field goal range, kick it and win the game. Right,
So you gotta have the ball at the end. But
you guys did do that. You did run the ball
well against that that Sunday. The Sunday Night game was

(45:50):
I'm sure massively annoying to you. It always is. I
feel like we every time we play the Chiefs, it
comes down to the last drive. Like even when we
played him, you know, Thursday Night Football at the beginning
of the year, it was the last drive for us
to go down and score. You know, that's right. You
had your sons at the game, and they're the potential
Chargers fans, and they were at that that Chiefs they

(46:12):
were Kelsey walk off and o t That was a
tough one too. Yeah, yeah, two of those now, man,
I'm tired of seeing that for sure. Well, and we
don't need to dwell on the on the Jaguars game either.
That's that was a tough pill to swallow. I do
wonder just for you from your angle as a player,
because the week before, in a relatively meaningless game, you guys,
you know, starters are in there till the very end,
and Mike Williams goes down and there was a sort

(46:34):
of a Reaganesque trickle down effect to all of that.
In the next week to not have him on the field,
I mean, in do you were you guys all on
board with the Brandon Staley esque nature of that that
he just that's hit the way he attacks week after week. Yeah,
um man, you know, there's there's so many ways you
can look at it. Um. For us, you know, we're
never thinking we're gonna get hurt when we go out there, right,

(46:55):
So that's not part of the um the thought process
as a player, but it definitely is a possibility, Like
you can't be naive, Like you're definitely going out there
in harm's way if you go out there. And so
for us, it was in the mentality with with Coach
where he's like, hey, we're gonna go out there, we're
gonna play, we're gonna get a rythm go and we're
gonna go out there and you guys are gonna just play.
So that's my mindset. I'm going out I'm playing. I'm playing.
And then for me, we got taken out in the

(47:16):
fourth quarter, and so I was I was surprised that
because I don't know we're coming out or what what
was happening that was communicated. Um, So in our head,
we were just playing. And then yeah, obviously Mike's ends
up getting hurt, um, which doesn't help us, right, he's
one of our bigger playmakers out there, and so it's unfortunate,
but it's not something that you could be like, I
don't know. You can go both ways. Were like, sure,
you don't play anybody, but then you didn't play last
week and so I don't know. I don't know. For me,

(47:39):
I play. That's why they coach right, I'm sure I
show up. What do you want me to do? Coach right?
You want me to play? You know we want to
sitting out? Let me know. I um, I'm thinking. As
we were heading to the Super Bowl, UH this week,
we said goodbye to some of our co workers are
production staff, and one of the last things they said
to me, because we had Justin Herbert, your teammate on
the show last year, they said, and this was multiple women, said,

(48:02):
if you see Justin Herbert down there, can you, like,
you know, maybe put in a word for us or
get him like our number, which you know is not
professionally appropriate. But I'm wondering, like, has that happened to
you a lot? As as a guy who spends a
lot of time with Herbert that they were like trying

(48:23):
to use you? Can we use you to get a
by the way, we apologize for Greg. We had to
do this, but I'm not out I'm mingling amongst people
or that, Like I'm in a situation where people are like, hey,
give this to justin type of thing. I try to
stay away from people, dirt, especially during the season. Kind
of live in my own little shell. So no, no,
no one's asked me that Herbert does seem to have

(48:44):
a strange pull on the women folk. That is something
that's a deniable thing. I'm gonna let m let y'all
observe that one. You know, he's just my teammate in
there had long hair. But we didn't We didn't call
these these women out by names, so I know you
know who you are. Um, you are one of the
rare players in the sense that you embrace the fantasy community.

(49:06):
There's an antagonistic relationship between players and fantasy a lot
of times when you hear these guys get asked about
it and the the abuse players can take online, which
is garbage, obviously, but you, in addition to being arguably
the most productive fantasy player, you love it. You do
a podcast with our buddy Matt Harmon, like that is
is this like do you think you'll be in the

(49:28):
fantasy realm after you're playing days. How do you see this?
Fantasy is so powerful and the reason our game is
as strong as it is today is because of the
sports betting world. In the fantasy world, absolutely there's a
fan base there, but the thing that took us to
the next level as far as our you know, exposure
and things like that and the loyalty is definitely the betting. Right.
Like I have so many fans, I have so many

(49:48):
more fans that are fans of because of fantasy or
sports betting that are instead of charges, right, Like ninety
percent of time people come up, Hey, you're on my
fantasy team. I'm an Eagles fan, I'm a Bears fan,
I'm a this fan that fan, but you're on my
fantasy team. So thank you. Let's get a picture, right,
And that's so powerful, right, It's so powerful to be
able to connect with those, And so I found a
lot of value within the relationships that I've built in
the community that I've been putting myself into, like all

(50:09):
the branding and stuff like that, and so that's why
I've tapped into the fantasy sports world. And it's it's
so proud I wish more guys. Would you gotta look
past the trash because there's a lot of it with
a lot of people. All I need two more points.
This out of roundhouse, kicking in the jaw, all this
random bs, you know, but you get down to it,
you know, especially for coming off a good season for me,
it's like, man, these people are really excited to talk
about you see you want to take a picture. So

(50:31):
I love it. We we needed an Austin Neckler back
in the day when I was working at Rhodal World
to really fully fully embrace it. I don't think we
have that. How is your your relationship with Matt Harmon
because we we did work with him for a long
time and he's like a bit a bit of a diva. Yeah,
you know, he's a new guy on the block. You know,
Liz was there. She crushed it last year. She got
poached by ESPN, so good for her. You know, my

(50:52):
Matt came in and you know, um no, I'm just playing.
It was really good. It was really it was really
good with Matt. Now we had we had a good time,
We had a good time, things off each other. We
went to podcast form, so we rocked it. Again, you
just connect the dots, the logo, the guitar, celebration, big
on fantasy and gamble actually gets it forward thinking, yes

(51:15):
exactly can you actually play guitar? That's my left Yes,
I have been learning can you play wonder Wall? I
cannot play wonder Wall? Now here's a guitar, not Austin.
Before we let you go, what what brings you to
media row? Yeah, so I've been working with sleep number
for like five years now, um and actually of the
league right now any precenter, our guys are on sleep

(51:36):
number beds um and as you all know, we're all human, right,
good night's sleep right leads to know good energy, right,
a good start to the day, right, so you can
get those walks in. Um, Mark has had a good night.
I may go purchase one of these. Oh yeah, so
the the great thing about sleep numbers You can customize
the bed to you like your your own fitting, like
you like a harder, you like a softer, you like

(51:57):
it to adjust like they have cooling, they have eating.
They all modern craftmatic. I was gonna say, is there
for Mark? Is there a less nightmares mode? You might
be working on the psychological part. I'm like, what does
it all mean? Can you stop those thoughts from happening?
Just over and over all? Right, Austin Neckler, thank you
so much. Good luck down the road. Awesome man. He

(52:26):
does a nice job branding himself. Austin. Yeah. I think
these players don't wait until they're playing careers and to
figure out what they're gonna do next. He's got like
four or five significant ventures already unfurling while he's still
Is that another thing that we should be doing as well,
not if we're hosting NFL honors next year or or

(52:48):
to get involved with I don't know n F t
s or I don't think. I think I think we
missed that boat. I don't know that ape thing. I
think that's a problem as well. Uh, he did feel seen,
though he felt seen by you. I think he did
think I struck a chord there in a negative way. No,
I I thought there are some individuals might take it
that way, But I think he looked at it as

(53:09):
a compliment, like you see what I'm doing. There's no
malice to it. I'm just trying to be There's not
a lot of subtlety to business. Yeah, that's fun. That's
where he could take offense, but I don't think he uh,
I don't think he did. You don't have to be
subtle if you want to be business mind. In addition
to being a great player, and he puts in the work,
A lot of people say he's um pound for pound,

(53:30):
the strongest man in football. You've heard that bandied about
so well. You know he doesn't get the same endorsement
deals that Justin. Herbert doesn't others, so he's making his
own way. Like beach body never never gave him a call.
I mean thinking a Herbert, he didn't. He wasn't looking
to help out anybody back in l A. On the
it's Herbert needs a lot of heldy. It's not Herbert

(53:50):
who needs help. It's the certain individuals that are back.
Why why would Austin I wish for these these females
that they have all the fun that they can have
with anyone, But it's like, why, why why would Austin
knuckler burn favors to help anyone in our media group.
I'll accept it. He is ver immedia. So I wish
you could have seen Travis face when you made that
comment about women wanting to have all the fun. You

(54:15):
answer your own I wish well for them if if
he does a favor for someone within NFL media. Quid
pro quote bro right, I think that that would be
the only angle that you could come from. And quid
pro do you not meant? This is a no breat
farv commentary zone on today's episode, everyone's gonna right. He

(54:36):
could sue us exactly. It's it's happening around our sphere.
Just be aware of that. It's all around us. I
will be aware. Are you looking around for some reason?
But you do have something to share? A take a
strong take about that situation. Go ahead, mark the floors here,
Mark Sessler, Los Angeles, California. UM, don't even don't even

(54:59):
attempt to set me up on this. He's a gigantic
human being. What jerseys, Oh, Randy Johnson, And you're right,
he has been in that gym. He is he's continues
to Uh, he's a bulky in the right way as
a bulky man he works out. This has a Friday

(55:19):
Show feel to it for sure. All right, let's uh,
let's take one more break and then we'll get to
some sandwich props. All right, welcome back, Let's get into
the super Bowl preview. Uh, Sandwich props presented by Draft
Kings sports Book. Uh are friends over a Draft Kings
sports Book sent us the following same game Parlay four

(55:41):
The Big Game. Just this is kind of fun little
data points for you, specifically, Greg, Well, no, we okay,
I will listen and then I will comment. Okay, well
that's why I'm teeing you up on it. Jalen Hurts
over two forty nine and a half passing yards plus
one fifteen. Mmm. I like the running from the Eagles more,

(56:01):
you know, even in a big game. Right. Patrick Mahomes
over three twenty four and a half passing yards plus
one eighty. It feels fair. That works, getting a little
extra juice there with the Eagles over two and a
half total t d s minus one. I like that
two and a half t d s by the entire
team total total. Yeah, absolutely, what's the odds there? Yeah?

(56:29):
Stuff not touching that just not that you would know.
But it's just not I'm not interested. Yeah, but um,
but perhaps some other people are. Always they should be
important to remember that we have we have a code
of conduct and we've signed the nfl IS gambling policy
before every season. So Mark, I thought Mark was like
scratching a nitch and said, no, no, don't touch that. No,
just cycle back. That's what I was. I I understand

(56:50):
the policy anyway. UM, odds and lines are subject to change.
Will be sure to check out the Draft King sports
Book app for the latest. Um. All right, let's wait, Dan,
what are the combined odds for that same game? Parlay?
I don't know what that means, but it's plus four? Okay,
so you gotta like attach them all together? Thank you? Greg.

(57:11):
Al Right, let's get into it. Sandwich Props super Bowl
fifty seven edition always a integral part of our Super
Bowl week show where we really kind of put ourselves
out there with a prediction about Bobby Game and uh,
Greg Rosen, though, I'd like to start with you, Okay,
I will start, and it's it's been it's been a

(57:33):
one season. I feel like you can go back and
listen to our Thursday preview show for everything we think
most important in this game. I hope. So I love
you know, I love the Eagles. I love the high
scoring game. I love the running game of the Eagles. Um.
But we're here in the desert right and it's dry.
I'm just chugging I'm chugging that water day after day.

(57:55):
My lips are cracking, my skin is cracking like a
semi nose. It's not great. And maybe it's that's that's
maybe a symptom of a much more serious issue, and
you must get medical attention as soon as possible. I'm
not saying it's a full on, but like when it's
dry out, that happens to some people in their noses
and it and it can happen. So it could have
been long week. You came down here for the Super
Bowl and you might open the wallet and it and

(58:17):
it looks very dry. And that's why I'm just focused,
not on what's the most interesting thing to pick, but
I'm just thinking what is the wettest thing to on Sunday.
I don't care that that roof is closed on Sunday.
I looked at all the numbers sent to us here
by Draft Kings, and I looked at Isaiah Pacheco, and
I looked at that rushing total and it's at forty seven.

(58:40):
And I looked at that Eagles defense, and I think
Andy Rene will listen to our preview show and he'll
know that you gotta run the ball and he's gotta
know that those pass rashers are coming up the field
and there's big lanes in the middle, and Pacheco's running
guys over. And I know that roof maybe closed on Sunday,
but it don't matter because it's gonna be raiding inside

(59:01):
a state farm stadium. Let's go. The Rainmaker's coming out
one last time. This season we've been on fire. Open
it up and Pour. It's getting easier for you to
do this, which is both good for the show but
also stupid, little troubling. What is Greg's next career step?

(59:24):
Although I think he's hit on an absolute, I absolutely
think that that's an absurd place for him. For Patico,
that was the one in my heart that really jumped
out quite a bit. They do like to pass the
ball in Kansas. Yeah, I think up for Patico. But
maybe that's that's maybe what they got. Pataco is the

(59:45):
hot kind of everyone's hot in the pants over Pacheco
and him check, everyone's very hot and the pants on Pacheco,
and this idea that he will be the X factor
could be. But Patrick Mahomes also there's a chance he
throws at fifty two times. If that's the case the check,
it's gonna find it tough to get over that, Sarry,
what is it? It's pretty good though. It's a good

(01:00:08):
I think it's a good rain mound. But just because
everyone be careful with because for Greg, it's just like
I'll throw this out, throw that out. For you, it
might be about whether your kid goes to college. I
need someone to go check. But I think we're five
and two on the season, something very strong. And you
know what, there's a big difference between six and two
and five and three, so there's a lot riding on
the rain. Those are unconfirmed stats, by the way, played

(01:00:33):
every time we hear them. I'm sure somebody else will.
I'm pretty I'm actually pretty sure. It's like actually two
and five no, no, yeah, we started on a three
game hot street to start the second guy. Um, a
guy came up to me on the street and it
looked like you know, you hadn't he's been in the
street for a while, and he said, yeah, I love
your show. I can't listen anymore because I followed Greg's

(01:00:54):
advice and they turned my phone off, so I can't
listen to show. Thanks to Greg, I have a bounty
hunter chasing me down in the middle of Arizona. You
never think about that. That's s comes great responsibility. I
mean five five and two he should be. Uh, mine's
gonna be pretty simple. Um, I'm on record, I'm way

(01:01:16):
out there on a on a limb here that uh,
the Chiefs are gonna win handily on Sunday. This is
a take that has put me in that position where
it could look very bad. Or conversely the old Sessy
move where it goes that way and all of a
sudden you look like you know a little thing or two.
So I'm gonna continue to lean in that direction. And

(01:01:37):
we know how great that Chiefs are. That eagles pass rushes.
We talked about it, all the different layers and how
they can get to that QB with so many studs
who just rack up pressures and sacks. And we know
that Patrick Mahomes, even though he's telling everyone he's fine,
he's not a cent He's not as nimble as he

(01:01:57):
is before he got his ankle rolled up on. Um,
did you know here's a Mahomes stat Uh from NNGS.
He was sacked for the first time in one and
twenty eight scrambles in the a f C championship game.
How is that possible? It went from the a f
C title game last year to the NFC Title game
this year. Every time he evaded pressure in the pocket

(01:02:19):
or had a roll out of any kind, he was
never taken down for an entire season. Uh. He also
has the lowest sack rate seventeen point six percent and
high success rate thirty five point one percent on extended dropbacks.
So this man is comfortable in the pocket. You can
get out of the pocket. You could send all your
pass rushers at it. He'll find a way. What do

(01:02:40):
we think about the Chiefs offensive line? Give me one
out of ten? Greg you wheready put him eight. Good line,
very good line, A historically great quarterback of Evadi pressure.
All this talk about the Eagles passed ros winning this game,
Mahomes doesn't get sacked Super Bowl Sunday. That's it's not
in a hanger. I think. Also it lines up with

(01:03:01):
I told you about the width of their their schemes.
There are formations. I went out there with my own
measuring tape at times. Also told us that son Reddick
would be the m v P. So that that was
that was that was, that was Showman Ship where I
took it in a multiple direction to keep the listener
on their heels. You're about to do it again. Go ahead,

(01:03:22):
but what are we are we taking? Are we saying
if we're taking you on that? Oh yeah, we never did.
I'm not taking Gregg's because I totally agree with that.
This is why you're in last place. You always take everything,
Just take everything. But I have done that the last
like fourteen times. And you're that confident I will take it.
I'll take you up and you'll take you on it.
Thank you. Yeah, I'll take you on yours. That's why
you were the winner this year. By the way, you

(01:03:45):
did a good job. All right, So I love Super
Bowl Week. Just up goes to my gym. Really yeah,
speaking not feeling. I would love to see Yeah, you
next to Babila. Uh and uh it's not out working out?
Um yeah and four and the sandwich props this year,

(01:04:10):
I went twelve and eight. I'm happy and uh, at
some point we should go over the over unders. We also,
by the way, we threw it out to the because
I went undefeated on those over unders. Yeah, that we
did with Mina Kimes back in that you want to
do that. Man. You were pretty in on the Houston one,
even though it was technically Marks Yeah, but you know
Greg is tracking these by the hours. It's on the
go get my Lunch website. But we were already long

(01:04:31):
Today we can do it another. But it should be
stated that we did. Remember it was some controversy about
the Seahawks will have a top five pick in three
draft and we we agreed to throw it out to
um Instagram and it was decided. Where did it come down.
It was pretty one sided that everyone thought you did.
You did deserve your sandwich. I said, I would stand

(01:04:52):
on what the public thought. I think you did. It
was a bit um, It was a bit vague, but
you know we we didn't parse the it correctly, not
in your favor. So you win, all right now, you
Mark Sessler. This is simple. I have been seeing this, um.
I've been visualizing this for for weeks, even before I

(01:05:15):
knew that Eagles would be even be in this game.
But if they got here, that the whole Philly special
business that we've spent years on. UM, I don't need
to uh, you know, wish me the Philly special thing
that Chris Matt, Doug Russo special touchdown. First of all,

(01:05:36):
they weren't going to score a touchdown anyway like on
that show was also called it was also called a
two point conversion. It was a touchdown, well, I don't remember.
It was a game changing touchdown. UM. And what I
am telling you right now is going to happen is
because I think that that is a play that you
cannot deny. With the statue out front of their home
stadium is interwoven in the sports history of Philadelphia for

(01:05:59):
all time, of course, so I think we all get that.
The Kelsey brothers um when they had did their show.
Travis Kelsey has said the same that it's hard to
understand the impact of that play and what it did
for the Eagles, their franchise, the city, the whole thing.
And I think that you've got a whole new coaching
staff here, I got a bunch of new players, and
it's not the kind of thing where they're gonna look

(01:06:20):
on that game and what happened in that game as
we must do it differently. I think there's gonna be
something special in this. I had the Eagles winning and
I said in a Thursday show that I think they're
gonna win this game um by a very special play.
Now for this prop bet, I'm I'm gonna go a
little simpler because I'm always getting bit in the behind
with my specificity. They are simply going to run the

(01:06:43):
Philly Special in this game. I don't know if it
will be a box job, if it will be a touchdown,
we'll see. But they're gonna run the Philly Special. It
will be called that, it will be noted, it will
be tweeted about a billion times. I tend to believe
this is outside of the bet that it's going to
be successful. I think it's gonna be. And I set
on Thursday run for like a seven yard game near midfield. Well,
I mean earlier in that game, Tom Brady had something

(01:07:05):
that wasn't that far off and had that drastic incompletion
that was a laughing stock scenario. Well, what if it's
like a variation or on the Philly Special where the
updated and make it new and it's not the Philly
I think they need I think let's I think the
play call needs to be I mean, you know, like
the way that you can line certain players up. It's
there can be very little variations on that, but it's

(01:07:25):
got to be Philly, Philly. It's got to be the
Philly Special. You've got to recognize it as that. Well,
I will take you on this. I think that's um.
I think that's a problematic road to go down for
Nick Sirianna. He's gotta blaze his own path. Doesn't mean
he can't came up, can't come up with a creative play.
I was thinking for my prop of like that he's
gonna have a huge fourth down call in this game
that changes the game. But I don't he doesn't. There's

(01:07:48):
already a statue out in front what you know, if
it goes poorly either way, I don't like the idea
of him uh kind of mimicking what Doug Peterson already did.
So I will take you, well, it's a good thing
you're not the Chief's defensive court. It. I would hope
they'd think that it's in the realm of possibility that
you dial that back. It is it is. It does
strike me a little bit as like the the Huge
Hit movie and then they go for the cash Grab

(01:08:10):
sequel that's you know, not nearly as special, um the
original Purge to you know Purge too. Symptom uh corollary
so let's and also that does feel like that is
the property of Doug Peterson and Frank Reich and Nick Foles.
So yes, I don't think that you will get that
echo now. If they do it, it's gonna be a

(01:08:31):
very cutee nod to the cognescente Yes, it will and
to myself, Dan is frozen in place right now, which
would be cool. I'm all for like cool Twitter stuff
on Super Bowl Sunday and we'll enjoy it and you'll
have sandwiches, I really thought. And you could see Mark

(01:08:53):
is needing some sandwiches because right now he owes a
lot of sandwiches this season so many. I thought he
was gonna say that another play was gonna place it,
and the helmet you can't. You can't replace it. No,
I'm saying, like, how about that top that in the
helmet catch? Speaking of the helmet catch, by the way,
like Kelly Clarkson and Peyton Manning had a little bit
in the NFL Honors and they I think referred to

(01:09:15):
the helmet catch as the most famous play and Super
Bowl I do not care about that at all. How
about Peyton was with you? He didn't like you like
getting that shine, but Kelly knew, Kelly knew, I got
Kelly Clarkson against me now implicitly on all things beautiful.
Good work. And that was the Super Bowl Preview Sandwiches

(01:09:38):
edition presented by Draft Kings Sports Book. What a week?
What a week? Not? I hate that play? You like that?
It's gonna be the gift that keepsger I do. Actually,
we got a video submission from Nick West, so this
was funny. Is it acute? And accepted a lock for
the super Bowl? That's what we He asked if he should,

(01:09:59):
and we said we. He said, who you me? It's cute?
He said, the dude, I love it. It's workman like I.
The law competition is over. I guess that is what
I'm trying to say. But if we get a chance
to hear Nick one last time this season fired off, gentlemen,

(01:10:20):
Happy super Bowl week to you. There's a few things
I'd like to discuss today. The first of which is
Dan give Marcus props only special now is stood the
test of time. It was a great play when it happened,
never said at least on par with the helmet catch,
if not better, give the man as sandwiches onto this

(01:10:44):
week the venmo is in the curious Why am I
not in Arizona right now? You guys have some pull
with the NFL. You could have gotten me a ticket
or given up one of your comp tickets. Should bring
a man in the ratings, beat them. You'd have with
me right now on Radio row with you, come to
think of it. Why am I not getting paid again? Anyway?

(01:11:06):
That's neither here nor there. I'm here for you guys.
Just remember that always, even if it's not reciprocated anyway.
Onto The Eagles will dominate this game on both sides
of the ball. The defensive and offensive lines are going
to be too much. They win by ten points, take

(01:11:26):
home the Super Bowl trophy. Lock that up. Stunner, a
guy from the west side of Cincinnati picked against the
team that beat the Bengals in the n FC title Game.
I think he believes that a little bit prediction, which
is a problem for you. But he also confronted you
on on multiple fronts. I would say, hey, it's not
a problem for me on any level. Um. I think

(01:11:48):
he speaks for the people, he speaks for himself. I
listened to Chris mad Dog Russo in all matters of
the heart and mind. I do like the idea that
he is aware that we have comp tickets for the
game and that he didn't get one, putting in a
little word for next year I gave. I gave him

(01:12:09):
a comp ticket a year ago. So I think it
was more pointing at Greg, what are you doing with
your tickets? And Dan? How about you? The NFL did
all about you again? Great job, they brought all, They
brought all the Wesleyan brothers. Eventually the NFL last year.
What a moment. Uh. Maybe if he would align with
my thoughts on various topics, he would have gotten a
ticket this year. But I would kind of sense that

(01:12:30):
he was going to betray me in his final dispatch
of the year. You have you have so many interestshes no? Yeah,
my my father in law, Watson Abe's son. Uh, he
wanted this, this Phoenix super Bowl ticket years back. And
I can't cross that man. He's gonna come rolling in
hot tomorrow and sorry Nick. It was claimed in about that.

(01:12:51):
I think it was like two thousand and nineteen. He
asked for it. Where would you put we got it done?
Where would you put your relationship with your Japanese father
in law is Now I think it's full of incredible respect.
Uh was it immediately on both sides? No, I've had
to prove myself again and again. Does he respect your career?

(01:13:12):
Now he does that, I can get up. He didn't initial. No,
I think he's taken care of your confused and you
know he did Uh ask me how much money I
made the first time I ever met him? As he
ever said to you? And when I told him, and
it wasn't that much? Was that road world? He said,
that's enough. Did you ever say anything along lines of

(01:13:32):
you bring great honor to the family. No, that's like
what you want. It's the Japanese I've seen that message
was distinctly absent. Apparently, Well, maybe this will be the weekend. Yeah,
Watson's son. I think the fact that, yeah, his daughter
lives on a different continent, that's a tough tough one

(01:13:53):
to overcome totally. But yes, all right, let's wrap this up.
Let's bring this in for a landing. Um, yes, wants
an obvious son coming in. Uh, Keith Hands is coming in.
Um we got all friends and family. Yes, thank god, Yes,
I mean coming in. Holy cripes, imagine she wasn't coming
in this weekend. He wouldn't to be at the show
on Sunday. We'd lose him entirely as a human. He

(01:14:14):
curled up in a corner. But I'm very happy that
you've found someone that you're in love with. I believe
it will stand the test of time, and I can't
wait to see her. She's a great time and sometimes absence,
you know, it makes the heart grow fonder. It's only
been a few days. Yeah, justin like little cat and
mouse technique here. You know, that's a fair point. Imagine

(01:14:36):
how emotional and um electric, how enthralling it would be
if you didn't see each other or talk to each
other for five straight hours on FaceTime and then she
shows up at the hotel. You would have created that
natural you know, absence, that that need to see you.

(01:14:58):
But instead it's a five hour long convent, which I'm
glad that happened for you. I mean, think about the
you know, if they didn't on on on a digital realm,
the Grave Digger, Grave Diggers, Like I'm just gonna pull
the plug out of the wall and we're just gonna
start to start over again. I approved like when in
our four you get to like, oh, what's the un
been up to this week. I think you know you could.

(01:15:20):
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