A Civil War Inside MAGA

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston w RKO.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining us now to discuss this and so much more,
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto full disclosure,
She's my better half, and yes, you better believe it.
I'm married up, Grace. I know you want to talk
about the actual operation what Trump did, Operation Midnight Hammer.

(00:28):
But before you do, I know you've been following now
this civil war, this complete now Fisher, this division that
is splintering and breaking Maga apart. Where do you stand
among the camps? Are you with Tucker's people or are

(00:50):
you with Levin's people? What say you? All? Right?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, good morning, Jeff. First of all, I was I'm
so impressed yesterday with all your callers. Jeff. I just
want to make this point to say how in this
country we should have a civilized discussion. These people should
all tune into listen to your callers, because yesterday your

(01:14):
show was a masterclass in how America used to discuss
these very very important matters. You had a wonderful caller, Maria,
who disagreed with some aspects of Trump's policy. You had
the brilliant color red, white, and blue dynamite Baby Tom
that also disagreed with Trump. But they did it all

(01:36):
with such class. And so I think that the truth
of the matter is that Levine and Carlson, Bennon and
Marjorie Taylor greed. They have important points to make about
our forward policy, and they've played critical roles in the
MAGA movement. And all they have to do is express

(01:56):
their point of view without attacking other people's motives and
without destroying one another. It's not that hard. So where
I stand, there's a lot of nuance in what I'm
going to say. And once I explain my position, you'll
see that I stand in some respects with the Carlson

(02:17):
and Bannon camp, but in other respects with the other camp.
So there's just there's nuance, and I think we have
to be able to talk about it without vilifying one
another and not attacking each other's motives. I mean, you're
taught this stuff in university about how to how to debate.
We need to bring this back in America. So, Jeff,

(02:39):
I want to get to the substance of the issue,
if I may, And first and foremost, our warriors are unbelievable.
The operation that was conducted on Saturday was absolutely mind
boggling in its precision, in its bravery, in its seeks receive,

(03:00):
in the strategy, in the execution. It was just incredible.
And so what I'm going to say next is in
no way to impugne the remarkable work of our service members.
When the Commander in chief says do x y and Z, man,
do they do X Y and Z. As we saw, However,

(03:23):
I still do not understand why President Trump didn't let
Israel do the job. So in this regard, I disagree
with Tucker Carlston who didn't want Israel to bomb the
nuclear facilities of the Iranians. I wanted Israel to do it,

(03:43):
and they have a unique and exquisite unit as well,
the Shaodag unit. They have previously blown up facilities that
are three hundred feet under the ground, and basically it
would have just taken a couple more weeks. They would
have done it. They would have blown up all of
those facilities. They would have also been there on the

(04:04):
ground while doing it. They would have told us exactly
how much uranium is there or not there. So we
don't even have any further questions about how much was
actually obliterated. So I wish that President Trump, as I
said last week, would just let Israel do the job.
And then, let me tell you something. We cannot have

(04:25):
any sense that the Mullahs have truly told us the
truth about what they're going to do next. I do
not have any confidence that when they said to us
that their very weak attack on Qatar is their retaliation
and that's it. I don't believe them for a minute.
These people are going to regroup and they're going to

(04:48):
be back at it as soon as they possibly can.
And so right now, why are we preventing Israel from
doing the job that they were doing so well, and
from finish the job. Let me tell you, there is
nothing that has given me more peace in the last
few days than Israel's brilliant work. There more peace of mind.

(05:11):
That is, they decimated the Iranian forces to the point
that Israel had control of the skies. That's the ballgame
right there. And now, because we got involved, Trump has
to deal with this division in his movement, right so
he wants an immediate ceasefire because if it continues, the

(05:34):
Maga camp will war with each other. So he's saying
I want ceasefire, plus he doesn't want any further blowback
on American forces. But had he just not intervened and
just been a great big brother to Israel, Israel can
continue to dominate the skies. Israel can continue to bomb them,
Israel can make sure that every last ounce of this

(05:55):
nuclear program is over, and who knows what good things
would come next. But why have we imposed this ceasefire
on Israel in Iran? So in this regard, I agree
completely with your caller Maria, with your caller Tom, some
of your other callers. I don't understand why we got involved.
And I think, once again, although the military campaign was brilliant,

(06:19):
the overall approach is a little bit half asked right now.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
So basically, if I hear you right, your position is
that had Trump not intervened, had we not launched those
bonding strikes, then Israel would have the freedom of maneuverability,
the independence to call their own shots tonight. As you
put it, you know, Trump became their big brother once

(06:44):
he blew up four doh, and they could continue this
operation and if they want to take out the Molas,
finished this regime once and for all. So we're not
back at it again in a couple of years, then
Israel would be able to do it. But now that
the UN United States took over the bombing and finished
off these nuclear sites, Trump then had the leverage to

(07:07):
tell bb pull back when they were planning to take
out the Ayatolas.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Correct, that's exactly right. So I don't agree with someone
like Levine who wants us to do everything right. Leavin
is like bomb bomb bomb. If we need to do
regime shame, let regime shame, let's do it. You know,
he's all in. And I don't agree with Tucker Carlson
who didn't want Israel to do it. My position is
Israel was winning, Israel was doing a great job. We

(07:33):
were doing a great job supporting Israel. It was brilliant
as it was. Why did we have to stick our
nose in there? And the Sheldag unit, this elite Israeli forced,
would have blown up every last ounce of that program.
And who knows, after a couple more weeks of this,
maybe they would have even provoked the situation to the

(07:54):
point of achieving regime change without us getting involved. I mean,
we were doing great.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I've got literally twenty seconds, do you think Maga can
ever recover, reconcile. You know, you call one guy a hooker,
you call the other guy a secret agent of Israel
and a trader? Can they ever really make peace? Literally
ten seconds.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Look, they have to stop. I think at this point,
if they stop now, they.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Can, if they God forbid, Mike, you should have given
it two more seconds. Yeah, basically you think if they
stop now, maybe they can reach some kind of a
modus operandi. I don't think so. I think this breach
is now permanent and it's irreparable. But we'll see. Thank you,
doctor Grace.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
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