Are Americans Fat?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six, sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, let's go right back to Deborah in Boston.
She is on fire. She says that when she was younger,
in her twenties, she was slightly overweight, but she and
she did what the medical establishment told her to do.
She had a lot of salad, a lot of low

(00:20):
fat or non fat food, exercised a lot, and then
she started to develop issues with seizures epilepsy. And then
she started to eat fat. She started to eat eggs, beef,
She went against the grain, and all of a sudden,
not only did the seizure stop, but Deborah began to

(00:42):
lose weight and now she is fit as a fiddle. Deborah,
did I sum up your position accurately.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Perfectly? Jef?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Now, Debrah, what is it about the low fat, non
fat diet that doesn't work? Is it because it's all
with sugars or it stimulates sugar or insulin production in
your body, so you think you're actually losing weight, but
in fact it's causing you to put on even more weight.

(01:12):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, it keeps you hungry, You're starving, right, I mean,
what's more satisfying than a big bowl of beef stew
or a big four egg omelet with cheese and onions
and peppers and mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Right, that's an excellent point.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's turning off the hunger. And I've lived it. I
know what it feels like to be starving all the time,
So you know the problems. There's something wrong with Americans,
I don't know, or people in general. After I had
this success and then it became so easy. I eat

(01:55):
normal foods, everything that our grandparents would recognize as food.
I eat eggs and meat, vegetables, butter, cheese, whatever. Guess what, Jeff,
I even eat ice cream. I'm not suffering. But I
went to a nutrition program like fifteen years ago to
study different dietary theories, and I was so excited, and

(02:16):
I wanted to share this information with friends and family.
And they knew what happened to me. They knew that
I got off my pharmaceuticals. And people are so defensive
and angry. It was almost like trying to tell an alcoholic, like, hey,
stop drinking. And I don't know what's wrong because we
are so fat and we're arrogant as Americans.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's like we have an emotional or mental problem that
we don't want to face. And here's the thing, Jeff.
If you're fat and you're on a ton of meds,
you're setting yourself up. You're dependent. You know, we talk
about freedom and individual liberty and all that. I hate
to break it to you, You're going to be dependent
on the state.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You're dead on. I mean, I'm just thinking of myself
as you're talking. Really, I mean, I'm being serious. I
mean I'm on MET. I mean, I don't want to
give you my whole medical history, but I'm on insulin,
I'm on met foreman, I'm on blood pressure medication, cholesterol medication.
And you're completely right. I'm thinking, like, yeah, of course
I'm dependent. You know, I'm basically a slave to pharmaceuticals

(03:24):
and you know, and eventually the government. You're completely right. No,
I think you're dead on. And I think part of
what's happening is and I really want to credit RFK Junior.
I think he's been a real trailblazer in this. Americans
are addicted to processed foods. I think there's no question
and I'm including myself in this and over processed foods,

(03:48):
and I think that's what's driving I'm not saying it's
all of it, but that's what's driving so much of
our obesity epidemic because you're right. Look, you know you
talked about Italy. I can only speak of Croatia. I
was there for you know, a week. They eat, I mean, man,
do they eat, but they're all thin. And so what
they told me was they go, it's not the calories.

(04:10):
They go, you Americans are counting calories. They're like, it's
not the calories. We eat more than enough calories. You
have to eat whole foods and it's you know, organic
fresh food. It's eggs, not processed, but real cheese, butter, beef, vegetables, fruits.

(04:31):
They go, you can eat, just eat, and they go,
you're never gonna be hungry. Don't look at the calories.
And by the way, fat apparently is good. They go,
it's good, and they go, you're gonna see you lay
off all of the cereals and the macaroni and cheese.
And the pasta is good, but it's a certain type

(04:53):
of pasta. That's why the Italians they eat the good
kind of pasta. You know, they don't eat the overprocessed
pasta that we have here, which they sell for a
buck or a buck fifty. That's just sugar. Really, what
you're just digesting is sugar, so you know. So they're like, look,
eat you know, breakfast, lunch, dinner, you know, and you

(05:13):
eat well, and it's delicious food, it's fresh food. It
tastes really good, and you don't put on weight. If anything,
you keep losing weight your body. It's like it kickstarts
your metabolism, and your metabolism just goes faster and faster
and faster, so you have more energy and the weight
just keeps coming off or it stays off, you know.

(05:34):
I on the other hand, well, you know, I mean
I eat too much processed food and you can feel it.
It just it sticks in that belly. It just it
won't go.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
And there is you do get cravings. There is slightly.
I mean, I don't know if addictive is too strong
a word, but you get powerful cravings. There's no question.
Your body almost gets hooked on it. It wants it
wants more of it. I think it's the sugar. But anyway,
whatever it is, I think we do have an obesity problem.

(06:08):
I agree, And look, I think you know, our FK
Junior is right. In the end, we've got to eat better,
We've got to eat fresher, we've got to eat like
our grandparents or great grandparents. Eight and a lot of
our obesity issues are going to go away. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Couple lines

(06:30):
are open if you want to jump on. I want
to read this text because we're talking obviously about immigration,
legal immigration, not just illegal immigration, and what kind of
criteria we want in legal immigrants to our country. And
that's from you know, as little as a tourist or
you know, students, or people on a work visa, or

(06:52):
people you know, we'll come here to you know, get
a green cart and maybe eventually become citizens. And I
want to read this this it's a very interesting text.
By the way, you can text the cooner Man seven
zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero. This
is from six one seven Jeff. We need an embargo

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on all immigration for a period of five years, simply
to sort out who is actually in the country, and
in theory at least to allow assimilation to resume. In
other words, I don't want to put words in six
one seven's mouth, but I think what six one seven

(07:37):
is saying is instead of you know, which is fine,
we want to have you know, financial criteria, economic criteria,
health criteria. Maybe it's time for us to have a
five year immigration moratorium. For five years, we don't just
seal the border and make sure no illegals come in,

(07:58):
no immigration perioderod legal or illegal. That will give us,
you know, for five years, that will give us time
to deport all of the illegals out of our country.
And then furthermore to figure out how many immigrants we

(08:19):
actually have because they're fudging the numbers when it comes
to the census, and then ask ourselves and have a
true proper national debate, how many immigrants do we want?
How much is good, how much is healthy? How much
is too much? And should we restore the melting pot

(08:42):
and assimilation instead of multiculturalism, And furthermore, what kind of
immigrants if we're going to have legal immigrants, what kind
of immigrants do we want? And what I mean by
that is do we just want to continue to bring
in low skill, low educated immigrants because we live now

(09:02):
in a very different society than sixty years ago, Never
mind one hundred or one hundred and fifty years ago.
That then it was an industrial age, so we needed
workers in the factories. So if they had low skills
or not much education, who cares as long as they're
willing to work and work hard. We now live in
a very technologically modern society. We need high skills. It's

(09:26):
a high tech economy we already have. You know. You know,
whether you like it or not, automation is doing more
and more of the physical labor that low skill workers
used to do. So do we really want to continue
to import I'm talking legal immigration, forget the illegal, just legal.

(09:48):
Do we want to continue to import people who have
low skills, low education, manual laborers when already our working
class is not getting paid what they need to be
paid because their wages are being undercut by foreigners who
are coming in, whether it's illegal or legal. And increasingly

(10:09):
these jobs are being automated. Look you look at many
fast food restaurants now it's increasingly automation. Amazon. I know
they're firing a lot of white collar workers because of AI,
but also even you know the people on the ground
who are packaging and stuff because of automation. Now, what

(10:29):
I'm saying is we have to have a debate what
kind of immigrants do we need? What kind of immigrants
do we want? And I think the biggest debate, and
this is what they've hijacked now for the last thirty years.
Does everybody have a right to come to America? Are

(10:50):
we a country or are we an international charity? That's
the question. Now do we have a right to decide
the numbers that come in and what kind of immigrants
and what is in the national interest of the United States? Now? Personally,
and I'm speaking now as a Christian, I do think

(11:11):
we should have a certain number two hundred and fifty thousand,
two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand. We can debate the numbers,
but I would allow refugees to come in a certain quota,
people who are genuinely persecuted, who are genuinely being discriminated against,

(11:32):
or victims of genocide or mass murder or human rights abuses. Yes,
I would say let's have a refugee program, But I'm
not talking millions and millions and millions, and we don't
vet them. They have to be vetted. We have to
know they're genuine refugees, and even then that they're willing
to contribute to America. So I do believe there is

(11:54):
some humanitarianism we can have in our immigration policy. But
that's a couple hundred thousand a year. It's not you know, five, ten,
fifteen to twenty million. And I think overall immigration should
be determined by the national interest, period, full stop. And

(12:15):
overall we want immigrants that are here to be American,
to assimilate, to be able to speak English. I don't
care if it's with an accent. My mother spoke with
an accent. People tease me, they say I have an accent. Whatever.
My point is, they speak English, and they're here to

(12:36):
be Americans, and they're here to give, to produce, and
to contribute. And that's not what we have now. What
we have now is the exact opposite. We have multiculturalism,
where they're encouraged to keep their cultures from where they
come from, to not assimilate, to speak their native language

(12:57):
it doesn't matter what it is, Spanish, Arabic, I means whatever,
and to hate this country. The moment they land, they're
already being told how racist we are and that we
have to accommodate ourselves to them, and that in many
ways they go to the front of the line. You know,

(13:18):
they're the quote unquote dreamers. They're smarter than us, they're
better than us, they're more humanitarian than us, they're better
people than us. That's what our elites keep telling us
that without these immigrants were nothing. Well, I disagree to me.
It's the opposite. Without America, these immigrants are nothing because

(13:43):
if they stay in their third world countries, believe me,
they don't have much of a future there, no matter
how talented or smart, or ambitious or hard working they
may be. And so to me, the goal of our
immigration should be to strengthen America and make us a better,
stronger country. We're not there to run a humanitarian salvation

(14:09):
army operation for the world. Because I got news for everybody,
and this is reality. If you import the world, you
will bankrupt America. You import the third world, you become
the third world. And that is the globalist project at
its heart. It's the great replacement, and it's happening right

(14:33):
in front of our eyes. Agree, disagree, Phil in Missouri.
Thanks for holding Phil, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Hey Jeff, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
My pleasure.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Phil.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It feels like MAGA is dead or has been hijacked.
I mean you know, Trump says he wants to double
the amount of Chinese visa student visas coming in and
you know, you those student visas they come stapled with
a work visa. And now he comes out with this
silly thing about weight requirements. I mean, we just had

(15:08):
a fight last week and found out forty two million
Americans are on food stamps. You know, how about a
program where we retrain those people and put them into
the jobs. You know, why do we have to bring
somebody else in, you know, to replace the American And
then anytime you criticize it, now, oh god, you get
you know, ridiculed and you know, shun out by the

(15:31):
Republicans like it's a litmus test. Now you have to
be pro Ukraine war, pro Israel otherwise you're out. So
I don't know what do you say about that.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, let me ask you this. I, by the way, Phil,
I'm against Trump's visa Chinese visa policies, his Chinese student
visa policy. He wants to bring in six hundred thousand
Chinese students on these student visas. He says it's good
for the university system, it's good for the call system

(16:01):
that our universities need. This constant infusion of foreign students,
and that the Chinese are willing to pay for it,
and they're willing to pay top dollar. I would keep
a lot of these Chinese. In fact, all of these
Chinese students out, I think they have many of them
are ties to the CCP. I think we're just training
them to go back eventually to destroy us. And I

(16:23):
agree with you. What about all you know, these American
students that are coming out of college without a job.
Why are we bringing in people? You're right to train
them to replace us. So I completely agree with you
on that one thousand percent. And look, I think overall
he's got to focus more at home. I don't care

(16:44):
about what happens between Russia and Ukraine, Israel one its
war against Hamas and Iran. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number mark in Lowell.
Thanks for a whole Mark and as always welcome.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Hi, Hey, Jeff, I have a comment about the immigration thing.
I think Trump is trolling right now with all that
garbage that he's saying, even if it's a dealing about
fat people or no fat people or whatever. I think
a solution for all this immigration stuff I don't know

(17:26):
about refugees yet, but for all other people automatically, anyone
who receives a visa or work permitter or whatever they get,
there's a two year moratorium on any government benefits. And

(17:46):
what happens with that is all these people who are
bringing their families in to have children and all that.
You know, it's not part of the government, They're still
part of the group that they are part of wherever
governments that come from or you know, country, and also
all their illnesses and everything are covered. They have to

(18:10):
take care of it. If they can't take care of it,
then they're out or they get to know there's no
ambi amb you know, there's no chance for error because
there's all gray area. And if you have gray area,
then the only people who benefited from it is the
immigration lawyers because they're going to put everything into the

(18:32):
court system saying this shouldn't have happened.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well, you know what I find Dan, I look, I
hear you, and this is what I just find incredible.
You know, we I don't mean you, I don't mean
this show. When I say Americans are we Americans? I'm
talking in general and especially our leaders. We think that
somehow we're the only country in the world that has
people come in and go to our colleges and universities. No,

(19:01):
I mean, I hate the burst every you know, our
leadership's bubble. But you know, can Canadian universities get a
lot of foreigners, Australian universities a lot of foreigners. British
universities a ton of foreigners, German, you know, French universities.
So what do they do. Do they just allow anybody
to come in?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do they allow them to come in and suddenly, you know,
get on the doll let's say they graduate right away.
Absolutely not. Do they allow Let's say they you know,
get married or bring a spouse with them, and the
spouse is pregnant, You think they give them automatic citizenship
or the child automatic citizenship because the child happens to

(19:43):
be born. Say they're from China and they go study
in England, Gay Oxford or Cambridge, Gay world renowned schools
or the London School of Economics, and you know, pop
out comes the baby while they're in Britain. You think
it's so automatic British citizenship for the child. No, like

(20:06):
we're the only ones that do this, and so that's
why people come, and that's why people take advantage of us. Look,
in fact, it's an open secret. And I'm not just
talking about colleges and universities. You go down to Florida,
go to anybody who works in a hospital in Florida,
and they'll tell you whether it's Russian oligarchs now increasingly

(20:29):
by the way, Ukrainian oligarchs, whether it's the Saudis, whether
it's people from Katar, these golf sheiks. They will come
in and bring their wives or girlfriends eight months pregnant.
I mean they're you know, they're they're about to pop.
They land in Miami or wherever, Tampa Bay or Jacksonville,
it doesn't matter, and they're, oh, yeah, I'm here to

(20:51):
go to Disney World. I love to go to Disney.
And what they really do is they're here to put
them up in a hospital and have the baby in
Florida on American soil. Bang Okay, it's birth tourism anchor
baby boom. The child has citizenship by extension, then the
child can sponsor the parents. Many of them literally land,

(21:14):
have the baby, get the American citizenship for their kids,
and then they fly back. They fly back to Russia
or Ukraine, or they go fly back to Saudi Arabia
or China. And then later when the kid is like ten, twelve,
fourteen years old, they go, okay, now we send you
back to America and you sponsor us and that's it.

(21:38):
We have citizenship as well through the child, and by
the way, all the welfare benefits that come with it.
Never mind what the illegals do. I'm talking. This is
more birth tourism. This is they actually you know, they
pay for flights, they pay for hotels, some of them
even pay for the cost of the hospital. But they
just want that anchor baby. Ay, what wants that anchor baby.

(22:02):
Once that thing pops out of the you know, pops
out of the belly, bang American citizen on the spot,
they go back to their home countries and they'll take
advantage of us for the rest of our lives. The
illegals just cross the border, pop out comes the baby.
The baby's an American citizen. You have to give now
government benefits to the baby and to the parents by extension.

(22:25):
And of course we don't divide families, so once the
baby comes out, the parents stay no matter what. Now
they're making fools of us. No other country in the
world does this, and it's for a reason. A. It's
making a mockery of our sovereignty. We essentially have no borders,

(22:47):
and it will bankrupt our welfare system. You keep doing this,
It's just it's a question of mathematics. You know, whether
you have a heart, don't have a heart. You're compassionate, compassionate,
whether it's a you know, Christian not Christian. No country
can function like this, and they resort to the fourteenth Amendment.

(23:11):
That's the one they always rolle about, the fourteenth Amendment.
Look at the fourteenth Amendment. The fourteenth Amendment. People did
not fight the Civil War for illegals to pour into
our country and have anchor babies. On what planet are
they living on? It's insane. The fourteenth Amendment was there

(23:32):
to abolish the thirteenth Amendment of ballished slavery. But the
fourteenth Amendment was to give citizenship to the former freed slaves. Hello.
That's why Trump is challenging this birthright citizenship and taking
it all the way to the Supreme Court. And he's

(23:52):
got every right to do so because he says it's
destroying us. I mean we're basically defenseless. All you've got
to do, I'm telling you, all you've got to do
is get here and have a baby, and you're in
the clear. And there was a recent poll, I mean, Mark,
look it up. Don't take my word for it. Two

(24:14):
billion people say they want to come to America. Two billion,
two billion. You open the gates, they're gonna come. Now.
No country is rich enough. We can't even absorb twenty million,
never mind two hundred million, never mind half a billion,

(24:37):
forget about a billion or two billion. So what we're
talking about now is a recipe for national suicide. And
the last time I checked, the Constitution is not a
suicide pact. Mark, final word to.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
You agree with all that part of it. And this
is a good time to start to clean up the
and the mess starts with you know, there's no such
thing as a If a baby is born here, it's
under your citizenship, but not our citizenship. And if if

(25:14):
of visa is given out, it's not given up in
the gray area. It's given out because of the rules
that we already have in place, and the people they
are only one added thing. No government subsidies on any visa,
and the visa should be the limited time only anyhow,
so that you know these people have to come back

(25:37):
to get another visa.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Bingo, bingo, Mark, thank you very much for that call.
Excellent call. Let me ask all of you just to
widen up the discussion. Let me throw another log on
the fire. Do you think we should have say, I'm
just making a number up, a five year embargo moratorium?
However you want to call it on all immigration, not

(26:00):
just illegal but legal immigration as well. Is it time
for us for a period of time to close our
borders so a we can get our house in order,
we can deport all of these illegals and then have
a national discussion and a national debate about what our
immigration policy should be going into the future. I'm just curious,

(26:24):
would you support something like this if Trump said, you
know what, no more immigrants for five years, illegal or legal.
We're just going to shut the borders down. We've got
too many people already, too many illegals and just too
many non citizens. And until we can sort all this out,
I'm not going to bring in another person. Agree, disagree,

(26:49):
Dan hold On, Oh I just okay. We've got Grace
on the line, all right, Dan in New Hampshire. Hang on,
doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace Vuoto. We
finally got her full disclosure. She's my better half, she
is my wife. Grace. How are you?

Speaker 6 (27:08):
I am very well, Jess. Great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Thank you so Grace. I want to ask you. It's
causing a lot of controversy. President Trump his team, through
the State Department, has now put out a more guidelines,
tougher criteria, not illegal immigration, but legal immigration. And if
you want to get a visa to come into the
United States, whether it's a travel visa, tourist visa, student visa,

(27:34):
work visa, and you know, I was on one for
years and then we got a green card. So even
for work visas and to get permanent residency, you have
to show that you're financially able to take care of yourself.
You're not going to be a burden to the taxpayers
or to the state. But they also now want to
weed out people who have cancer, who have respiratory diseases,

(28:00):
people who may have severe mental illness. In other words,
people who are going to cost a lot of money
because they're going to be sick, they're going to have
to be treated hundreds of thousands of dollars and we
just can't afford it. And one of the criteria is obese,
fat people, overly obese people, that they will eventually develop

(28:21):
heart issues type two diabetes, and that this should be
a factor in refusing entry into the United States.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
What say you, Jeff, You know, I think it's a
terrible idea. And I'll tell you why. Consider for a moment,
who that we actually know, based on this criteria of
obesity would be denied entry. I mean, some of the
hardest working people I know that were immigrants were you know,
they would fall through the cracks. Think of somebody like

(28:51):
my father who immigrated to Canada. He was a very
stocky guy, such a proud, hard working This guy never
never stopped working, even in his spare time, and everything
that he contributed to society far outweighed anything that he

(29:11):
took away from it. And think about somebody else that
we know that died during COVID, Nicola or Landscaper. He
was also an Italian immigrant into the United States. A
very stocky guy. This was one of the best workers
I've ever seen. This person would be denied. Think about
my very best friend that I met in DC Angelica,

(29:32):
and she has risen to the highest ranks of her
profession as now the vice president of an arms company.
And she was stocky. And then think about Jeff Cooner
who entered.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, she's a little more than stocky, but let that go.
Let that go, and.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Think of Jeff Cooner who entered, who you're actually slimmer
now than when you entered, and I think you're a
fantastic contributor to the society. But based on this criteria,
all of these incredible workers would be denied entry. So
this doesn't make sense to me. And also another thing
to consider, Jeth is that weight is a fluid category.

(30:14):
So you might give entry to somebody who's skinny when
they come in, but within five years they're overweight, or
somebody who is overweight when they come in, but within
five years they're skinny. It's just a fluid category. So
I don't think it's a category that is substantial enough
as a criteria. So I think what we're doing is

(30:34):
we're now gyrating from one extreme to the other extreme.
So one extreme was the Democrats, who are complete idiots,
opened up on borders with no criteria whatsoever. And also
we have a society that gives an abundance of benefits, right,
just give everybody benefits and let everybody in. So this
is the problem we have, and now we're going to

(30:55):
go to the opposite extreme and create these categories that
don't make sense. Look, the only thing we have to
consider when we give somebody a visa, of course, their
criminal background. You know, obviously are they criminals or not?
And we just have to ask the key question, what
does our economy need? And does this immigrant have the

(31:15):
education and the skills to match what our economy needs,
you know, once you verify that they're not criminals. And
I think we've got to keep it simple. Otherwise you're
empowering bureaucrats to make decisions about what a person can
overall contribute based on a category that's not going to
give you that information. And I just want to make

(31:37):
one more point, Jeff, which is think about the people
that are really overweight. To say that our American citizens
that have made a huge contribution, right, think of someone
like Rush Limbaugh, Orson Wells, Babe Ruth Aresa, Franklin, George Foreman,
Marlon Brando, Elvis who then became very very overweight. I'll

(31:59):
forget oprah winfree. We got like big singers nowadays.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Oprah I mean Prah. I don't know if that bolsters
your argument. But no, no, I hear what you're saying.
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
Wait, it's just it's just not a valid criteria to
determine the value that somebody is going to bring to
the workforce.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
What about Okay, leave a side obesity and wait, yes,
if they have cancer, if they're you know, if they
have mental illness, cazophrenia, bipolar disorder, if they have respiratory issues,
if you know, whatever, there's all kinds of health issues.
In other words, should we be allowing people to come

(32:45):
into our country that unless they can afford to pay
for their own health care, it's inevitable. We are going
to have to take care of these people and they're
going to cost it's going to cost us a lot
of money. Should health be consideration? I think it should.
I don't think we should be, you know, bringing in
people with leukemia. I'm not trying to see a heartless

(33:07):
but you know, if you got a brain tumor, I'm like, yeah,
you're going to be in our hospitals very soon. Well,
you know, we're not a charity for the world, but
I'm just curious, what say you.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Well, look, I think it is already part of the
screening that takes place. They have to make sure that
incoming immigrants have proper vaccination, and I do think like
a a general health screening is a good idea. But
one of the problems with trying to make this like
a hard and fast criteria is that health two just fluctuates,

(33:39):
and it's like you can't really predict the future. So
somebody unless obviously it's a terminal illness, right, like something
we know is terminal, but sometimes people are ill for
a while. I mean, you just had a caller on
that was ill for a while and then she turned
her health around her writes a versus someone that comes
in health he suddenly becomes very, very sick. So I
just think right now we have to just keep the

(33:59):
immigrant process much much simpler, strict but simple. That's the
way to go. And look, we've done this before. The
immigrants that we brought in for several decades were phenomenal
and we had a great system until the Democrats messed
it up. I don't think we need to reinvent the

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wheel on this one.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Grace, what do you think about a moratorium? In general?
We have too many immigrants already illegal and legal, many
non citizens, many of them on food stamps, many of
them public housing, many of them ebt and on welfare.
It is literally bankrupting and bleeding our country dry. It

(34:45):
is breaking the back of our welfare system. Is it
time to impose a moratorium an embargo on all immigration?
Not forever, not even for twenty years or fifteen years
or ten years, but maybe for years so that way
we can deport all the illegals and be start to

(35:06):
ask ourselves as a country, do we want to have
the melting pot? Do we want a sponsor and push assimilation?
Do we what kind of an immigration policy do we want?
Because it seems to me I think right now fifteen
percent of the entire American population is foreign born. Never
in American history we've had so many foreign born people

(35:29):
in our country, and many of them are not learning English,
many of them are not assimilating. And all you've got
to do is look at what happened in New York
City with Mamdanni. The foreign born population put Mum Donnie
over the top because they brought in so many? Do
we now have too many immigrants legal or illegal? And

(35:53):
is it time for a moratorium so we can straighten
all this out and devise an immigration policy that puts
America and Americans first.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
What say, you definitely need to pump the brakes right
now because we have to deal.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
With the Democrats who have created a lawless society. That's
really what they've created with this wide open border, and
they've let just about anybody in. And then also it's
give benefits to just about everybody. So these are the
two huge problems that have to be addressed before we
can even really have a properly functioning immigration system. But

(36:33):
the problem we face is yes, we'd like to do.
Let's say, in an ideal world, right, we would tell
President Trump just stop every single immigrant from coming in period,
whether legal or illegal. One of the problems is that
we have some huge categories of labor that we die
your need for, like doctors, for example, we have like
a shortage of doctors in this country.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
So what do we do with that problem? This is
so overall I would say yes, but you have to
look very carefully at which industries would we also be
blocking that we're in dire need of grace.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
We've got a minute left, So let me just ask
you this. Have we lost the melting pot? Have we
lost the sense in America of assimilation, of Americanization as
it used to be called, that if you're a forget illegal,
if you're a legal immigrant, that you really have to

(37:28):
learn English, you have to understand the Constitution, the Bill
of Rights, and truly become an American citizen, not just
in name only, but truly culturally. You know in your
life personally that you come here to become an American.
Have we lost that?

Speaker 6 (37:47):
We have completely lost that. And you've got to consider
that we're not only not teaching immigrants what it is
to be an American, we're not teaching our own citizens
what American history is, what the glories of the Constitution,
the Bill of Rights, what our revolution really really stands for,
it's historic impact, how original it was in its time.

(38:09):
We're not teaching the Great Books, we're not teaching the
value of Western civilization. So we're seeing this rot. Never
mind for the incoming immigrants, who of course they won't
they won't know this. If our own citizens don't even
know this, and this is a deliberate plan by the
left to take away our history so that we lose
our uniqueness. Our history informs us as to what makes

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us unique in this world, and it is decades that
they've been working hard.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hard to destroy our identity. You're right, our national identity
are a national culture, our national unity what binds us
as a people and as a country.