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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, a lot to talk about today. However,
what many people are discussing, obviously, is a new directive
from the Trump administration. This is through the State Department.
So this is more Marco Rubio than anybody else. But
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clearly this is part of the Trump administration's efforts to
not just crack down on illegal immigration, but now to
reform and start to crack down and toughen up standards
for legal immigration. And so please understand that what we're
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talking about now is about legal immigrants. And so according
now to a new directive issued through the Trump State Department,
listen now to this. Embassies consulates officers around the world
have now been told that they must start to take
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into account, in particular health criteria of people who want
to come to the United States on a visa. Now
this could be for just a travel visa you come
in whatever vacation for a week or two or whatever
it may be, or as a student visa or on
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a work visa, or yes, if you want to get
a Green card permanent residency in the United States. And
in particular, what they are now being instructed is that
you must look into two things. Number one, do they
financially have the means to be able to take care
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of themselves, take care of their families, not be what
used to be called a public charge. In other words,
they're not going to be on the government dole. They
are able to have a job, pay for themsels, pay
for their family, not beyond welfare, not beyond public housing,
not take snap or food stamps, you know, in other words,
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don't take any government benefits to me. That's just common sense,
That's how it used to be in this country. I'm
supporting this one thousand percent. But then they also ad
a second criteria, which is you can also look into
health and if a person has cardiovascular disease, regenerative disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They're saying that now.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
These case officers, people in consulates and embassies could look
at this and say, what is the financial impact on
taxpayers in the United States. If someone is coming in
with can sir, well, do they have the means to
pay for their treatment when they come to America? Can
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they sustain themselves? Say they going to come to America,
say they want a green card, Well, if they're fifty
years old and life expectancy now is about seventy five
and they have cancer, are they multimillionaire? Say, if they
come from Saudi Arabia or whatever country, can they then
provide for themselves and take care of their cancer treatment?
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Say they have mental health issues, suffer from chronic depression,
bipolar disorder, whatever it may be. Are they able to
take care financially? Are they able to take care of
their mental health issues? Or will they become a burden
on taxpayers either by requiring or needing public cash assistance.
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That's exactly what that's the terminology in this new guidance
or governmental in institutionalization. Meaning they're gonna have to be
on Medicaid, they're gonna have to be on whatever mass health,
they're gonna have to be on Obamacare. In other words,
can they pay for themselves if they're sick? And if
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they can't pay for themselves yet? No, their butten it
is forbidden. Do not allow these people to come in
because you don't want them to be a burden, a
quote unquote public charge, a burden on the taxpayer, a
burden on our immigration system. Now, the most controversial of
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all is the guidance about obesity, fatness, people being too
fat and those who suffer from diabetes. Part of the
guidance is crystal clear saying that they now want case officers, embassies, consulates,
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whatever to now look at people who are overweight. These
are immigrants, now potential immigrants, people who are going to
get a visa to visit our country or stay in
our country. And what they're saying is, in plain English,
we don't want fat people and obese people. And the
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reason why is, they say, because generally obese people will
have heart issues, will have blood pleasure issues, many will
be suffering from diabetes, and so can they afford to
pay for their own insulin. If they can afford to
pay for their own insulin, fine, we'll let them come in.
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But if they can't pay for their own insulin, why
should the taxpayers pay for their insulin, just to give
you as an example, or pay for them to get
heart treatment or a heart operation. So what they are
now saying is that they're going to use the criteria
that basically they don't want fat sauls coming into the
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United States, and especially if you have type two diabetes,
they really don't want you. Now they're not saying automatically
if you're four hundred and fifty pounds, they're not going
to admit you to come into America. Or if you
have type two diabetes, they won't let you come into America.
If you show that you can pay for your insulin,
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they'll let you in if you get a medical exam
and they say, yes, this person maybe's overweight, but right
now there are no health issues whatsoever, and this person
has the means should they develop serious health issues to
pay for themselves, take care of themselves, they'll let you in.
So it's not a blanket policy of no obese people.
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But what they're saying is they're trying to discourage fat people,
obese people, people with overweight people from being admitted into
the country as immigrants on visas. And it is on
a case by case basis. But if a case officer
looks at someone and says, you know, three hundred and
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fifty four hundred pounds already on type two, you know,
type two diabetes already on insulin, high blood pressure, income
level is not going to be that high when they
come in. You know what, this person's likely going to.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Be a war to the state.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Now, this person's going to have chronic health issues, and
most likely the US taxpayer is going to have to
pick up the tab. And as the guidance says, treatment
often costs hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of
taxpayer money on the taxpayer's dime. So they now have
the discretion to say, and yet, no, we're not going
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to give you the visa. You're not allowed to come
in now. As you know, liberals, civil rights groups, the ACLU,
I mean, their heads are exploding, they're going bunkers. They
say this is discrimination against the obese, against fat people,
against sick people, against people with diabetes, against people with cancer,
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against people with mental health issues. And they're saying that
they should people should be allowed to come in, regardless
of their weight, regardless of their health, regardless of their
mental health. Now let me just say this right away.
Generally I am in favor. There's no question. We don't
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want to be, you know, a nursing home for the
entire world. We're not the Salvation Army, we're not the
Red Cross for the entire world. Why should we be
importing people, say, who are schizophrenic, who are severely bipolar,
who suffer from severe chronic depression, And then we're left
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eye to take care of them, or as more often happens,
people who have serious heart issues. By the way, the
number one killer in the world is cardiovascular disease, according
to our State Department. According to the World Health Organization,
eighteen million people die every single year from you know, strokes,
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heart attacks, heart failure. Many of them would love to
come into the United States to get the best treatment
in the world. So heart disease is a very serious problem.
One out of every ten people in the world suffers
from diabetes. I suffer from diabetes. As you know, I
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have type two diabetes. My only here's my only concern
with this, by these standards today, if we rolled back
the clock twenty five years ago, okay, when the cooner
man came in on a work visa and then eventually
got a green card and of course eventually became a
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naturalized American citizen, I I don't think they would allow me.
I think they'd look at me and say, huh, well,
you're about forty pounds overweight.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That's not good.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
High blood pressure, yeah, check, high cholesterol yeah check. Type
two diabetes. I didn't have it then, but I was
in the early stages. Looks like type two diabetic.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Any year. Now check.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Sorry, Jeff, I know you want to come. I know
you have a lot of things to contribute, but you're
just too fat. No, you're You're a fat soul. And
the answer is no. Six one seven two six, six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number six nineteen on
the great work, you know, Jeff Cooner, Boston's bulldozer. Okay,
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So I want to ask all of you what do
you make of these new guidelines, a new criteria now
that the Trump administration is going to be applying to
These are legal immigrants. Now, these are for immigrant visas.
So it could be just literally, you know, a travel
visa to come for a couple of weeks going down
to Florida or Disneyland, or I don't know, come here
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to Massachusetts, say in the summer to go to Cape
cod or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That or for.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Student visas, work visas, also green carts to apply for
permanent residency. And so you don't just have to show
that you're financially able to sustain yourself, especially if you're
applying to come here on a work visa or a
you know, a green card, a permanent residency. They want
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to make sure if you're going to be living in
this country for a sustained period of time, that you're
not just going to be an award of the state.
You're going to be living on welfare. That to me,
it's a no brainer. What they're also now saying is
that health criteria is going to be almost as important
as the financial criteria. They don't want people coming in
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who are sick, who have cancer, who have serious heart disease,
cardiovascular disease, other kinds of diseases as well, people who
are coming in maybe with mental health issues, schizophrenia, bipolar,
you name it, serious, serious depression, these kinds of issues.
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But obesity, they say that is now a major consideration.
They don't want fat people coming in. Now you're going
to say, Jeff, what's fat? Right, what's the definition of fat?
They're saying someone that is really overweight that because of
their weight, they suffer from type two diabetes, have high
blood pressure, probably early state of heart disease. But we're talking,
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you know, people who are really really overweight. I'm not
talking about somebody with a love handle, you know, or
whatever they could lose ten pounds or whatever. No, No,
we're not talking that. We're talking about people you know
who are fat, I mean another way to put it,
they're obese, they're big. They say that what's happening is
many of them are coming in they have chronic health
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issues because of their obesity, and then we the American taxpayer,
have to pay for their insulin, We have to pay
for eventually their heart meda you know, their heart treatment,
or their heart medication or their heart operations. That this
is becoming massively expensive. And unless they can show that
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they have the financial means to pay for you know,
their insulin or if they you know, need a heart
operation or whatever, then the answer should be no. We
don't want sick, overweight people. According to the Trump administration
coming into the United States, agree disagree generally. Let me
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just I'm not an inhumane man, but generally, I think
we have way too many. I'm not talking I'm talking
out legal never mind illegal immigration. Legal immigration where they
abuse our generosity, where they come on a travel visa
and then head straight to a you know, they come in,
they claim to for a week or two or three
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weeks vacation, and it happens all the time. They go
to one of our hospitals and claim, you know, and
get taken care of. They come in and say they
have heart issues, they're going to have a heart attack,
they're about to have a heart attack, and boom, they
have to be taken care of. So this is costing
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us a fortune. And I don't think that we should
be paying for you know, foreigners is insulin. I don't
don't think we should be paying for their heart operations.
I don't think we should be paying for their mental
health treatment. And then Charles in Florida made a very
good point, Jeff, what about people who come in women pregnant,
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you know, seven eight months or whatever. Many of them
come in claim they're just here to be on vacation,
but they're really here. It's called birth tourism. They're here
to just have the baby in the United States. The
baby is then an anchor baby, and then the baby
gets automatic American citizenship. That should also be looked at.
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I completely agree, Charles. I think no, again, it's a
judgment call. You look at us, you know, you look
at a couple, you look at someone. It's on an individual,
case by case basis. But you say, no, I think
they're here. They're not here to really see Disney World.
You know, they're not really here to go to the
Grand Canyon. No, they're here to come and have an
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anchor baby. No you're not. No no travel visa sorry, no,
we're not going to let you in, you know. Or no,
no student visa, absolutely not. No. Now, the left is
already complaining, the Democrats are already complaining, and many Rhino
Chamber of Commerce, open borders republicans, globalist republicans are already
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complaining that this new criteria, especially on health and obesity,
that this is going to lead to quote unquote too
many refusals. And I'm looking at this and I'm saying,
our immigration system is already overburdened. It's already rife with
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fraud and abuse, and we're already taking in people from
all over the world, and they're already straining our healthcare system.
So I'm all for toughening, you know, toughening criteria across
the board. Look, I can just tell you this. When
I came to the United States, I already had a
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job waiting for me. I applied for the job from Canada,
and I had to show that not just that I
was the most qualified, but that they were Americans who
didn't have all of the specific sets the criteria that
they were looking for. I spoke multiple languages, I had
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several expertise in different areas of the world. I don't
want to give you my whole resume, but that's how
I got the job. Now, I also had to go
through a background check. I also had to go through
a criminal background check. They also gave me a medical exam,
but it was a broad medical exam. It was do
you have a contagious disease? You know, I don't. Do
you have tuberculosis or something like that? It wasn't you know?
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This is the cooner man overweight, which I was, is
the cooner man on high blood pressure medication which I was,
is the counerman.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
High cholesterol, which I was.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But it was a general medical exam, and they did
a drug test, by the way, all of which I
agreed with. So now they're going to raise the criteria,
raise the standards. Six one seven two, six, six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, I just want
to read to you one message and one text, and
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I'm going to go right to the phone lines. Six
one seven two, six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. This is from seven eight one, Jeff. The
criteria that you mentioned in your opening monologue is nothing new.
When I got married in nineteen seventy nine to an
Eastern European woman and was arranging her immigration here to
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the United States, I had to officially quote unquote sponsor her,
which required me to be financially respond her. In other words,
she would not be eligible to receive welfare or other
social benefits. Now, that was not too long ago. When
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on earth did that change and who changed it? That's
not the standards today. I hate to tell you this,
seven eight to one. Those standards now, it eroded slowly.
They were slowly undermined, eroded, a lowered both Republican and
Democrat administrations because they were desperate or determined to bring
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in as many not just illegal immigrants, but legal immigrants,
and to open up our borders, and so they want
to make it easier and easier and easier. No, you
can get a green card, You can even get a
work visa in the United States, even if you're on
say SNAP, or if you're applying for public housing vouchers
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or whatever, or foodstam mean I mentioned food stamps already,
or if you know, take your pick whatever you want,
say heating assistance in the winter time or whatever. You
can be on one. You can't be on all of them.
I'm not kidding. That's the new criteria. So you can
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be you know, you can be on WICK that's fine.
You can be on SNAP that's fine. You can be
on public housing that's fine. You can even take EBT
that's fine. But you can't take four or five. You
can't take you know, a lot of them. They will
allow you one, maybe two, and they'll still allow you
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to get a work visa, or to get a student visa,
or to get.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
A green card.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So this idea of financial economic self reliance, those days
are gone. Now Trump is trying to bring it back,
and that's why they're toughening up the criteria. And that's
why in general I support it, not one hundred but
one thousand percent. The controversy, the real quote unquote, if
I'm putting this in air quotes controversy is the line
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on obesity, people who are overweight, people who are quote
unquote too fat, that they want to start turning those
away as well, because they say it's leading to many
health issues when they arrive and it's just too much
of a burden and a drain on our already overburdened
healthcare and welfare system. And that's why I'd love to
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get your take. Should wait? In other words, being overweight,
being obese, Should that be a major factor in whether
we allow people to come to the country legally, to
give them a visa whatever that is, to visit US
for travel, tourism, student visas, work visas, green cards? Should
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that be a criteria? Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Uh. This is
from Nancy and this is what Nancy on messenger wrote.
Good morning, Jeff, Well, good morning to you Nancy. Back
when immigrants came to this country again, we're talking legal
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immigration that arrived on Ellis Island. They were checked out
for health problems, they had to have a job and
a place to live. It's not much different this time,
you know than this now. I agree. I think Trump
is trying to revive the Ellis Island model. And it's
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very true when people came in through Ellis Island, if
you had tuberculosis, if you had a serious illness, I'm sorry,
if they felt you had a mental defect, you know whatever. Politically,
if you were a communist or an anarchist or a subverb,
they sent you back. They said, I'm sorry, no, we're
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not you know, we're not going to take care of
the whole world. That's not our job. You want to come, come,
you have to have a job. You have to be
able to provide for yourself practically immediately. You have to
have a place to stay or a sponsor. And you've
got to be relatively healthy. Some are a little more healthy,
some are a little less healthy. But you're not here
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to be a burden or a drain on the public treasury. Now,
you know, you know, I don't know how to Let's say,
if we did it through Ellis Island again, you know,
would we have you know, you know one hundred you know,
one hundred treadmills and you come in and you're like,
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you know, like, let's say me, you know, I'm coming in,
I'm schlepping in. And they're like, well, you know, we
like that resume cooner, but.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Whoa hey, do.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You ever try getting a salad once in a while,
you know, get on that treadmill.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Go go, go, go go.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You know, you gotta burn that bab you got to
burn that fat off before we let you in. That's
the so called controversy. So let me ask all of you.
Should people who are really obese or overweight, should they
be disqualified from being given a visa and allowed to
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enter our country. I'm just curious, what do you say, yes?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Is this quote unquote fat shaming? Do you think Democrats
will use it to attack Trump as shaming fat people
or obese people? Now, furthermore, let me just throw this
on the table as well. What do you say to
the argument that a lot of incredibly productive, creative, intelligent
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immigrants who came to the United States historically many of
them were overweight. We're not talking about somebody you know
who's got leukemia or brain cancer that we're bringing in.
They're overweight. Does it lead to health issues? Of course?
But if you do a cost benefit analysis, many people
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overweight have been phenomenal immigrants. Should that be a disqualifier?
I just got to throw that out there, and in retrospect,
would that mean the cooner man? Would I be barred?
And you see, you seem like you see where I'm
conflicted here. You know, Mike loves this new criteria because
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he says, if they applied it over twenty five years ago,
I wouldn't have been allowed to come in and he
wouldn't have to deal with me on a daily basis
every morning. So he loves this new criteria. You know, me,
I don't know, I'm you know, I don't want to
be a hypocrite about this. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight. And then you've got Sandy, who,
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by the way, lost eighty pounds, is you know, honestly
in tip top shape awake in one eighty?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Really? Did? I mean? Just work?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It was marvelous, marvelous diet. And Sandy makes the point
now that she's slim. Right now, everybody is, you know,
everybody can make fun of the cooner man because they've
all lost weight. In the booth there, Mike has been
hitting the bike and Sandy's been hitting awake in one eighty,
So everybody's making, you know, jokes at mike'spense. But Sandy says,
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so are we maybe going to do it on a scale?
Say you come in for just a travel visa or
a student visa, Okay, two hundred and eighty pounds, you've
got to be less than two eighty, But if you're
two eighty and an under will let you in. But
if you want to be on a work visa, it's
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two fifty. Okay, that has got to be two fifty
or under. But if you want to be a permanent resident,
we're cutting it off at two twenty. So should we
have a scale if for different visas, different weight benchmarks,
are different weight criteria and what ultimate weight? Would you say?
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Is the cutoff to fifty to eighty three hundred three
point fifty? I mean, that's you know, we got to
start looking into that if we're going to apply this criteria.
You know, so people ask me how much do I weigh?
Everybody's asking me that question. I'm a two sixty man,
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two hundred and sixty pounds, So maybe let's do it
this way. Then let's make the cutoff two hundred and
sixty pounds.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I'm for it. I'm in.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Anything less than two sixty, I'm screwed.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You see my dilemma here?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, should obesity? Should you know? Being too fat? Hate
to put it that bluntly, but that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Six forty nine on the Great WRKO Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, before we go to the blazing
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here it is Cooner country which should disqualify? And again
now we're talking about a legal immigrant. Which should disqualify
an immigrant seeking entry into the United States? A they
don't have a job, be their fat? So what do
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you think is the bigger qualifier which should disqualify an
immigrant seeking entry to come to America? The entry into
the United States. A they don't have a job. B
they're fat. Personally, I'm an a on this, but then
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again I am biased, you know so, but that's me
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Last mini point in my defense, why are you overweight?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Cooonerman?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Why is it always the battle of the bulge with you?
I am married to a great Italian cook. I'm serious, Grace.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Wow. Last night, for example, she made pasta and meat sauce. Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I mean it was incredible, just incredible. I loved it,
The kids loved it. Eva brought one of her friends over.
He loved it. So when you got a wonderful Italian
cook for a wife, it's hard to stay slim. I
don't know what else to tell you. I'm human six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Larry
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in Arkansas, you're gonna kick us off. Larry, thanks for
holding and welcome my word.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Jeff, I have fat, five fat friends.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You're four of them.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
See now, you and I can make jokes like that
and not get offended. I could never say that to
a woman.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well, yeah, women tend to be very sensitive about their weight.
I do agree with you on that, Larry.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
So I am a former fat man myself. I've lost
ninety pounds wow, and I got myself into it. I
paid to get myself.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Out of it.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I didn't rely on the government, and so I agree
with it. In being serious weight excessive weight, I was
classified by the VAS morbidly obese. Is contributes to six
out of ten of the leading causes of death, six
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out of ten. We need to stop having people come
in that are burden to the society. Our society. You
couldn't flip it. You couldn't be sick and go to
a different country and expect them to take care of you.
They would never let you in. Why do we always
have to be the exception?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, yeah, you're completely right, and Larry, look just to
further because I agree with you. We don't have an
obligation that takes sick people in or people who are
morbidly obese, because you're right, that kind of obesity really,
I mean, it's you're right, it's going to kill you
and through diabetes, or through heart disease or heart attack,
or there's so many other factors that it leads to.
(32:29):
You're completely right, But this is what I think most
Americans don't really quite comprehend. You go to say, France,
I don't care, Germany, Austria, Denmark, I take your pick
and you come in and you're sick unless you have
health insurance. You know, if you pay like at the
airport through your agent when you book a flight, unless
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you have you know, travel health insurance, they're not going
to take care of you. Or if they do take
care of you, you got to give them a credit
card like in other words, you know, you got to pay.
We're the only ones who give it for free. So
they're like, if you don't have the means to pay,
they're not going to take care of you. They're going
to put you on a plane and say go back.
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It's not our problem. Our healthcare system is for our
citizens and legal residents who live in our country. So
you know, that's why I always I always get health
in usually not always, but often I get health insurance
when I fly to another country. You know, what is it,
travel health insurance or whatever. So we're the only ones
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that keep giving away our health and our healthcare system
for free, and that's why people abuse it, and especially
because we have very good, very high quality healthcare that
most of the world, it's the envy of the world.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So you're completely right, Larry. Look, say you have.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Cancer and you go to France and you say, you
know what, I'm not feeling well today. And you go
to the hospital and you say, you know, I got
leukemia or a brain tumor or whatever, stomach cancer, and
you know I need help. They say, yeah, well go
back to America, like you know, or you know, give
us your credit card, cut us a check, the check clears,
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we treat you. So I think that's what Americans don't understand. Larry,
I got to ask you this, all kidding aside, what
do you say to the argument that it is fat
shaming that. Yeah, you can make an argument for you know,
cancer or tuberculosis or you know other you know, illnesses
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and diseases.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But you know, if.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Someone is three hundred pounds, that person can still hold
down a job, contribute, be productive, live decades and decades
and decades. Yes, they'll have health problems high blood pressure, cholesterol,
probably type two diabetes, but you know it's it's not
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on the same par as say, you know, I don't
know having leukemia. What do you say to that argument
that what we're doing now that Trump is did was
that Trump is targeting and discriminating against the obese. What
do you say to that argument?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Larry. This seem off the wall, but I'll bring it
right back. Yesterday you talked about how veterans aren't given
the same things, but they're held to a higher standard
as illegal you know what I mean. Yes, veterans, you cannot.
I love you, Jeff, but there is no way you
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go to join the military, the US military. You would
not have made the standards right.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Standards in the military for a reason. I was six'
four WHEN i went, in two hundred. Pounds they still
made me lose twenty five pounds BECAUSE i was not
in shape two hundred. POUNDS i had a pot belly
two hundred, pounds so they said.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You got to lose.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
THAT i had no choice or to get thrown out.
This we have standards for a, reason and especially when
it comes to your, health there there should be you,
know there's always exceptions every. Rule but we we need
to go back to public shaming in my, opinion because
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we lowered the standards on. Everything everybody's running around you,
Know i'm a. Victim i'm a. Victim i'm a. Victim
you hear them demanding for bigger seats in the, airplanes you,
know bigger, hallways because there's you, know all this stuff
we have to when did this country have to start
accommodating to the few when the many have their proverbial stuff?
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Together trying to temper WHAT i say SO i don't
get too. Fined you, know we've got to go back to.
Standards AND i love what especially What pete's doing in
the for the, military Because i've been back. Here i've
gone on the base here In arkansas several. TIMES i
look around at some of these people in the. Uniform i'm,
going what? Happened you, know it's it's got to come.
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Back the standards have to apply across the, board and
we shouldn't be these people shouldn't be a burden to
the medical. System you, know it's. Bad en up the
illegals are you know there was a great scene In Godfather.
Too the Show's Don corleone coming over as it piled
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after his father was, murdered and he's At Ellis. Island
someone brought this up in one of your. Messages he
was rejected and kept in quarantine because he had something
wrong with.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Him that's right.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Over he was not allowed. In we got to get
back to.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
That interesting Interesting, larry as always really really good, Call,
larry thank you very.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
MUCH i appreciate.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight is the.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Number, okay let me ask.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
You larry In arkansas, says, no we need to start
public shaming. Again and there's nothing wrong with shaming people
who are morbidly, obese especially if they're going to be
coming into our country as. Immigrants we have a right
to uphold high standards and not bring in people who
are too overweight will be eventually a burden on our healthcare.
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System and he's, saying not just a, foreigners even to.
Ourselves our military is. Overweight american citizens are. Overweight Jeff
coooner is. OVERWEIGHT i, mean in other, words it's time
for the country to start losing weight. Now just so
that you, know let me just give you these statistics
and you make of it what you. Will The United
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states has an adult obesity rate forty point three percent
of the entire. Country, okay let's forget the point three
a just make it, simple rounded. Off forty percent of
All american adults are considered. Obese, obese not you, know pod,
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belly a little, overweight, whatever you. KNOW i could lose
ten you know, whatever love, handles whatever you want to call.
Them we're talking. Obese forty percent that's Of. Americans and obesity, now,
is by the, way chronic among young, people. Teenagers many
of them are already pre. DIABETIC a lot of it
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is they eat a lot of junk, food processed. Food
they don't work, out they don't, exercise their sedentary they
sit in front of these freaking video games all, day or,
television or in front of the iPad or these, screens
and they don't. Move so you combine all the junk
with the fact that they don't do anything except watch
a screen ten twelve hours a, day you've got yourself
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a massive fat, problem a b city problem among young,
people but even among. Adults so it is a. Problem
there's no question it's a massive. Problem six one secon
having two six six sixty eight sixty Eight lynn In New,
Hampshire thanks for Holding, lynn and, Welcome.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Jeff how are you?
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Today?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Good?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Good how were You? Lynn?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
GOOD i wanted to make a. Point my daughter traveled
To germany a year after high school on a student,
visa and she was required to not only have healthcare
in The United, states to show she had a certain
amount in her checking account to show that that she
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had a place to live and she had to purchase
their healthcare plan over. There number, One SO i wanted
to bring that. Up THE us spends over two hundred
billion dollars a year on obesity related, issues ALTHOUGH i
think it's way more and closer to a, trillion because
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a lot of, cancers et cetera are caused by. Obesity,
however this is, rich very, rich coming from a government
who created the food pyramid in the late nineteen seventies
because of the corruption of big sugar and big food
telling us that fat makes us fat and that sugar,
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doesn't and so we should be heavily laden on. Carbs
and look what's. Happened we started at zero cases of
childhood two diabetes in nineteen eighty to astronomical numbers. Today
we need education in this. Country big food does not
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care what they put in our. Food In, europe it's
a whole different. Story and let's look at snap and
what percentage of junk food is bought by people on
the welfare, system and it's more than twenty five. Percent
so we have a big issue in this. Country but
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again it's our government it's the corruption of the government
that has caused this issue and we need to scale at.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
That that's an.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Excellent, Point, nolin that's an excellent. Point and, look let
me let me JUST i can ONLY i can only you,
know piggyback off of what you, said because all your
points are spot. On WHEN i was recently In, europe
WHEN i was Visiting, croatia long story, short there are
a lot of. Tourists croatia is full of, tourists now.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Full, full.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Full SO i met a lot of Actually, Europeans, brits
people From, england people From, Scotland, Germans, Italians. AUSTRIANS i,
mean it's. Loaded and they're very. Nice they're very, polite
they're not Anti, american and many they Love, america they really.
Do there's so many things About america they, love they.
Admire but to a man and a, woman they all said,
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This americans are too. Fat not in an insulting, way
they're just like they don't. Understand they're, like You americans
eat way too. Much you eat way too much processed.
Food exactly your, point which, is you, know garbage full
of carbs and. Sugar they go, like we don't, understand
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like you, know you're the greatest country in the. World
how could you guys trash yourselves like? This like they're genuinely.
Befuddled SO i was just struck by. That and they,
say you, know Like americans, have you, know big, cars big,
homes big, roads which they, love all of that they.
Love they, go but you have big. People why do
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you have such big? People like overweight? People so that's number.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
One number.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
TWO i got a chance over the. WEEKEND i don't
have much time, off BUT i got a chance over
the weekend to watch a film, noir WHICH i. Love,
okay long, story it's Called The Blind. Spot it's actually quite,
good but let that. Go it's kind of a mystery crime.
Thriller my point, is AND i know It's, hollywood but
still look how. Thin AND i don't mean like the
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leading stars you know in the. Movie while you, say
well that's those Are hollywood, actors, no they take shots
of people in the. Streets they take shots of you,
know people in the. City this was said In New.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
York look how thin everybody. WAS i mean they're.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Waistlines i'm, like, wow what? Happened and you, know just
look at any documentary of the nineteen, forties the nineteen,
fifties just how. PEOPLE i, Mean i'm not, saying, look you,
know you'll see an obese person here or, there an
overweight person here or, there but they're the. Exception they're
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not the. Norm AND i think it's. Clear and, look
they didn't have gyms the way we have. Them they
don't have all this modern workout equipment that you know
that we. Have, now it was their. Diet it's so
obvious it was their, diet and so you're completely. Right
a lot of it is the foods that We But,
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lynn let me go back to your first, point BECAUSE
i think that's you, KNOW i want to keep it
on track regarding, immigration and that's WHAT i was telling.
MANY i was, saying Many americans don't realize this when
your daughter went to study abroad In, germany that you,
know she has to have a certain amount of money
to prove that she can financially sustain and take care of.
Herself she has to prove she has healthcare, here she
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has to buy the healthcare plan over. There in other,
words like, no you're not going to be a ward
on The german welfare. System The german welfare system is For.
Germans it's not for. Outsiders, now that's the. Case AND
i think practically Every european, country and by the, way
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Every Middle eastern, country and Every asian country and Most
Latin american. Countries in other, words for most of the,
world that's their. Standard why are we the only? Ones
like we're the only? Ones As trump would, say you,
know he likes the words, stood but he uses it a.
Lot why are we the ones that are so? Stupid
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so somebody comes on a TRIP i don't. Care let's
reverse it From germany and all of a, sudden now
they can go into our hospital for whatever, reason and
we got to treat them and it's all on our.
Dime it's.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Lynn do you think we should have these obesity overweight
requirements when giving out visas to people who want to
come into our? Country are you a yes or a
no on?
Speaker 6 (46:32):
THIS i think that instead of putting people on a,
SCALE i, think like other, countries they need to be
able to pay for an, insurance a health insurance improve
they have one.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
Because the obesity EPIDEMIC caut is very. Expensive and if
they're going to be on, welfare, yeah they can't come.
IN i don't think.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
So to, me that's the bigger one of the. TWO
i agree with.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
You if you don't have a job and you can't
prove that you're not going to be on, WELFARE i
don't want you in our.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Country.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Period we're you, know we're not a, Charity we're a.
Country i'm with you all the. Way, lynn thank you
very much for that, Call frank And. Boston thanks for
Holding frank and welcome.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
You a great. Show, look thank you FOR i have
two points to. Make one IS i find it interesting
that the same leftist that might object to screening criteria
for legal, immigrants we're fine when we had, rapists, murderers drug,
runners child, abusers child traffickers teaming over our border On.
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Jeck so that's the first. Point the second point IS
i do believe some kind of health screening criteria should
be part of a comprehensive bundle of criteria that we
screen legal immigrants coming over. Here that would include things
like potential productivity as a member of, society, employability education,
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level desire to, acculturate either they Speak english or agree
to Learn, english what their current state was in the
country they're coming, from and then health should be one
AND i would make it more comprehensive than just how
much they weigh or being. Fat that needs to be
a factor and they need to determine how best to determine.
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That but to your other callers, point obesity leads to
so many other, things and we don't want to have
these people coming in and being a. Burden in, fact
they're coming here to realize their Dream, well we just
want the people that are best equipped to achieve their
dreams in The United states by being a productive member
of society and not a, burden you, know to.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Your First by the, way you're spot, On, frank absolutely spot,
on dead on on every, Point frank to going to
your first, Point, LOOK i think you're. Right it has
to be much more than just whether they're overweight or.
Not it has to BE i love your. Idea it's
got to be. Total it's got to be. Comprehensive are
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they here to? Assimilate can they Speak? English do they
have a, job do they have skills that we actually?
Need and obviously, yes you, know are they relatively? HEALTHY
i mean we can't take care Of, look the whole
world HAS i don't mean every, person but cancer is
an epidemic around the. World cardiovascular. Disease AS i, said
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it's the number one killer in the entire. World it's
the number one thing people die. Of so of course
they'd love to come Into. America we have the best
healthcare system in the. World, now you keep bringing all
these people in and put them on our healthcare, system
you're going to bankrupt our healthcare sysm. Them so it's
a question now of. Survival we can't do what we've been.
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Doing we have to bolt through the. Standards we have no,
choice AND i think that's Why trump is doing.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
This