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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto. We
finally got her full disclosure. She's my better half, she
is my wife. Grace. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am very well, Jess. Great to be with you.
Thank you so Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I want to ask you. It's causing a lot of controversy.
President Trump his team, through the State Department, has now
put out a more guidelines, tougher criteria, not illegal immigration,
but legal immigration. And if you want to get a
visa to come into the United States, whether it's a
travel visa, tourist visa, student visa, work visa, and you know,
(00:48):
I was on one for years then we got a
green card. So even for work visas and to get
permanent residency, you have to show that you're financially able
to take care of yourself. You're not going to be
a burden to the taxpayers or to the state. But
they also now want to weed out people who have cancer,
(01:08):
who have respiratory diseases, people who may have severe mental illness.
In other words, people who are going to cost a
lot of money because they're going to be sick, They're
going to have to be treated hundreds of thousands of
dollars and we just can't afford it. And one of
the criteria is obese, fat people, overly obese people, that
(01:32):
they will eventually develop heart issues type two diabetes, and
that this should be a factor in refusing entry into
the United States.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What say you, Jeff, You know, I think it's a
terrible idea. And I'll tell you why. Consider for a moment,
who that we actually know, based on this criteria of
obesity would be denied entry. I mean, some of the
hardest working people I know that were immigrants were you know,
they would fall through the cracks. Think of somebody like
(02:03):
my father who immigrated to Canada. He was a very
stocky guy, such a proud, hard working man. This guy
never never stopped working, even in his spare time, and
everything that he contributed to society far outweighed anything that
he took away from it. And think about somebody else
(02:26):
that we know that died during COVID, Nicola or Landscaper.
He was also an Italian immigrant into the United States,
a very stocky guy. This was one of the best
workers I've ever seen this person would be denied. Think
about my very best friend that I met in DC Angelica,
and she has risen to the highest ranks of her
(02:48):
profession as now the vice president of an arms company,
and she was stocky. And then think about Jeff Cooner who.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Entroduced well, she's a little more than a talking but
let that go. Let that go.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I think of Jeff Kooner who entered, who you're actually
slimmer now than when you entered. I think you're a
fantastic contributor to the society. But based on this criteria,
all of these incredible workers would be denied entry. So
this doesn't make sense to me. And also another thing
to consider, Jeff, is that weight is a fluid category.
(03:26):
So you might give entry to somebody who's skinny when
they come in, but within five years they're overweight, or
somebody who is overweight when they come in, but within
five years they're skinny. It's just a fluid category. So
I don't think it's a category that is substantial enough
as a criteria. So I think what we're doing is
(03:46):
we're now gyrating from one extreme to the other extreme.
So one extreme was the Democrats who are complete idiots
opened up on borders with no criteria whatsoever. And also,
we have a society that gives an abundance of benefits, right,
just just give everybody benefits and let everybody in. So
this is the problem we have, and now we're going
(04:07):
to go to the opposite extreme and create these categories
that don't make sense. Look, the only thing we have
to consider when we give somebody of visa, of course,
their criminal background. You know, obviously are they criminals or not?
And we just have to ask the key question, what
does our economy need? And does this immigrant have the
(04:27):
education and the skills to match what our economy needs,
you know, once you verify that they're not criminals. And
I think we've got to keep it simple. Otherwise you're
empowering bureaucrats to make decisions about what a person can
overall contribute based on a category that's not going to
give you that information. And I just want to make
(04:50):
one more point, Jeff, which is, think about the people
that are really overweight to say that our American citizens
that have made a huge contribution, right, think of someone
like Rush Limbaugh, Orson Wells, Babe Ruth Aresa, Franklin, George Forman,
Marlon Brando, Elvis who then became very very overweight, Alfred Hitchcock,
(05:13):
Oprah Winfrey. We got like big singers nowadays.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oprah, I mean, Oprah. I don't know if that bolsters
your argument. But no, no, I hear what you're saying.
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Wait, it's just it's just not a valid criteria to
determine the value that somebody is going to bring to
the workforce.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
What about Okay, leave a side obesity and wait, yes,
if they have cancer, if they're you know, if they
have mental illness, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, if they have respiratory issues,
if you know, whatever, there's all kinds of health issues.
In other words, should we be allowing people to come
(05:57):
into our country that unless they can afford to pay
for their own health care, it's inevitable. We are going
to have to take care of these people, and they're
going to cost it's going to cost us a lot
of money. Should health be a consideration? I think it should.
I don't think we should be, you know, bringing in
people with leukemia. I'm not trying to see a heartless
(06:19):
but you know, if you got a brain tumor. I'm like, yeah,
you're going to be in our hospitals very soon. Well
you know, we're not a charity for the world, but
I'm just curious, what say you.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well, look, I think it is already part of the
screening that takes place. They have to make sure that
incoming immigrants have proper vaccination. And I do think, like
a general, a general health screening is a good idea.
But one of the problems with trying to make this
like a hard and fast criteria is that health two
just fluctuates, and it's like you can't really predict the future.
(06:54):
So somebody unless obviously it's a terminal illness, right, like
something we know is terminal, But sometimes people are ill
for a while. I mean, you just had a caller
on that was ill for a while and then she
turned her house around her vice versa. Someone that comes
in healthy suddenly becomes very, very sick. So I just think,
right now, we have to just keep the immigration process
much much simpler, strict but simple. That's the way to go.
(07:19):
And look, we've done this before. The immigrants that we
brought in for several decades were phenomenal, and we had
a great system until the Democrats messed it up. I
don't think we need to, you know, reinvent the wheel
on this one, grace.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What do you think about a moratorium? In general? We
have too many immigrants already illegal and legal, many non citizens,
many of them on food stamps, many of them public housing,
many of them ebt and on welfare. It is literally
bankrupting and bleeding our country dry. It is breaking the
(07:58):
back of our welfare system. Is it time to impose
a moratorium an embargo on all immigration? Not forever, not
even for twenty years or fifteen years or ten years,
but maybe for five years, so that way we can
deport all the illegals and b start to ask ourselves
(08:19):
as a country, do we want to have the melting pot?
Do we want a sponsor and push assimilation? Do we
what kind of an immigration policy do we want? Because
it seems to me I think right now fifteen percent
of the entire American population is foreign born. Never in
American history we've had so many foreign born people in
(08:42):
our country, and many of them are not learning English,
many of them are not assimilating. And all you've got
to do is look at what happened in New York
City with Mamdani. The foreign born population put Mumdanni over
the top because they brought in so many. Do we
now have too many immigrants legal or illegal? And is
(09:05):
it time for a moratorium so we can straighten all
this out and devise an immigration policy that puts America
and Americans first.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What say, you definitely need to pump the brakes right
now because we have to deal with the Democrats who
have created a lawless society. That's really what they've created
with this wide open border, and they've let just about
anybody in. And then also it's give benefits to just
about everybody. So these are the two huge problems that
(09:38):
have to be addressed before we can even really have
a properly functioning immigration system. But the problem we face is, yes,
we'd like to do Let's say, in an ideal world, right,
we would tell President Trump just stop every single immigrant
from coming in period, whether legal or illegal. One of
the problems is that we have some cute categories of
(10:01):
labor that we're in dire need for, like doctors, for example,
we have like a shortage of doctors in this country.
So what do we do with that problem? This is
so overall, I would say yes, but you have to
look very carefully at which industries would we also be
blocking that We're in dire need of grace.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
We've got a minute left, so let me just ask
you this. Have we lost the melting pot? Have we
lost the sense in America of assimilation, of Americanization as
it used to be called, that if you're a forget illegal,
if you're a legal immigrant, that you really have to
(10:40):
learn English, you have to understand the Constitution, the Bill
of Rights and truly become an American citizen, not just
in name only, but truly culturally. You know in your
life personally that you come here to become an American.
Have we lost that?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
We have comp completely lost that. And you've got to
consider that we're not only not teaching immigrants what it
is to be an American, We're not teaching our own
citizens what American history is, what the glories of the Constitution,
the Bill of Rights, what our revolution really really stands for,
it's historic impact, how original it was in its time.
(11:22):
We're not teaching the Great Books, we're not teaching the
value of Western civilization. So we're seeing this rot. Never
mind for the incoming immigrants, who, of course they won't
They won't know this if our own citizens don't even
know this. And this is a deliberate plan by the
left to take away our history so that we lose
our uniqueness. Our history informs us as to what makes
(11:46):
us unique in this world. And it is decades that
they've been working hard.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Hard to destroy our identity. You're right, our national identity
are a national culture, our national unity what binds us
as a people and as a country. Grace as always,
dynamite stuff. Agree, disagree all of your calls. I promise next.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came
from his wife. The Kuner Report weekend edition on the
Boys of Boston WRKO
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto. We
finally got her full disclosure. She's my better half, she
is my wife. Grace. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am very well, Jess. Great to be with you.
Thank you so Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I want to ask you. It's causing a lot of controversy.
President Trump his team, through the State Department, has now
put out a more guidelines, tougher criteria, not illegal immigration,
but legal immigration. And if you want to get a
visa to come into the United States, whether it's a
travel visa, tourist visa, student visa, work visa, and you know,
(00:48):
I was on one for years then we got a
green card. So even for work visas and to get
permanent residency, you have to show that you're financially able
to take care of yourself. You're not going to be
a burden to the taxpayers or to the state. But
they also now want to weed out people who have cancer,
(01:08):
who have respiratory diseases, people who may have severe mental illness.
In other words, people who are going to cost a
lot of money because they're going to be sick, They're
going to have to be treated hundreds of thousands of
dollars and we just can't afford it. And one of
the criteria is obese, fat people, overly obese people, that
(01:32):
they will eventually develop heart issues type two diabetes, and
that this should be a factor in refusing entry into
the United States.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What say you, Jeff, You know, I think it's a
terrible idea. And I'll tell you why. Consider for a moment,
who that we actually know, based on this criteria of
obesity would be denied entry. I mean, some of the
hardest working people I know that were immigrants were you know,
they would fall through the cracks. Think of somebody like
(02:03):
my father who immigrated to Canada. He was a very
stocky guy, such a proud, hard working man. This guy
never never stopped working, even in his spare time, and
everything that he contributed to society far outweighed anything that
he took away from it. And think about somebody else
(02:26):
that we know that died during COVID, Nicola or Landscaper.
He was also an Italian immigrant into the United States,
a very stocky guy. This was one of the best
workers I've ever seen this person would be denied. Think
about my very best friend that I met in DC Angelica,
and she has risen to the highest ranks of her
(02:48):
profession as now the vice president of an arms company,
and she was stocky. And then think about Jeff Cooner who.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Entroduced well, she's a little more than a talking but
let that go. Let that go.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I think of Jeff Kooner who entered, who you're actually
slimmer now than when you entered. I think you're a
fantastic contributor to the society. But based on this criteria,
all of these incredible workers would be denied entry. So
this doesn't make sense to me. And also another thing
to consider, Jeff, is that weight is a fluid category.
(03:26):
So you might give entry to somebody who's skinny when
they come in, but within five years they're overweight, or
somebody who is overweight when they come in, but within
five years they're skinny. It's just a fluid category. So
I don't think it's a category that is substantial enough
as a criteria. So I think what we're doing is
(03:46):
we're now gyrating from one extreme to the other extreme.
So one extreme was the Democrats who are complete idiots
opened up on borders with no criteria whatsoever. And also,
we have a society that gives an abundance of benefits, right,
just just give everybody benefits and let everybody in. So
this is the problem we have, and now we're going
(04:07):
to go to the opposite extreme and create these categories
that don't make sense. Look, the only thing we have
to consider when we give somebody of visa, of course,
their criminal background. You know, obviously are they criminals or not?
And we just have to ask the key question, what
does our economy need? And does this immigrant have the
(04:27):
education and the skills to match what our economy needs,
you know, once you verify that they're not criminals. And
I think we've got to keep it simple. Otherwise you're
empowering bureaucrats to make decisions about what a person can
overall contribute based on a category that's not going to
give you that information. And I just want to make
(04:50):
one more point, Jeff, which is, think about the people
that are really overweight to say that our American citizens
that have made a huge contribution, right, think of someone
like Rush Limbaugh, Orson Wells, Babe Ruth Aresa, Franklin, George Forman,
Marlon Brando, Elvis who then became very very overweight, Alfred Hitchcock,
(05:13):
Oprah Winfrey. We got like big singers nowadays.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oprah, I mean, Oprah. I don't know if that bolsters
your argument. But no, no, I hear what you're saying.
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Wait, it's just it's just not a valid criteria to
determine the value that somebody is going to bring to
the workforce.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
What about Okay, leave a side obesity and wait, yes,
if they have cancer, if they're you know, if they
have mental illness, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, if they have respiratory issues,
if you know, whatever, there's all kinds of health issues.
In other words, should we be allowing people to come
(05:57):
into our country that unless they can afford to pay
for their own health care, it's inevitable. We are going
to have to take care of these people, and they're
going to cost it's going to cost us a lot
of money. Should health be a consideration? I think it should.
I don't think we should be, you know, bringing in
people with leukemia. I'm not trying to see a heartless
(06:19):
but you know, if you got a brain tumor. I'm like, yeah,
you're going to be in our hospitals very soon. Well
you know, we're not a charity for the world, but
I'm just curious, what say you.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well, look, I think it is already part of the
screening that takes place. They have to make sure that
incoming immigrants have proper vaccination. And I do think, like
a general, a general health screening is a good idea.
But one of the problems with trying to make this
like a hard and fast criteria is that health two
just fluctuates, and it's like you can't really predict the future.
(06:54):
So somebody unless obviously it's a terminal illness, right, like
something we know is terminal, But sometimes people are ill
for a while. I mean, you just had a caller
on that was ill for a while and then she
turned her house around her vice versa. Someone that comes
in healthy suddenly becomes very, very sick. So I just think,
right now, we have to just keep the immigration process
much much simpler, strict but simple. That's the way to go.
(07:19):
And look, we've done this before. The immigrants that we
brought in for several decades were phenomenal, and we had
a great system until the Democrats messed it up. I
don't think we need to, you know, reinvent the wheel
on this one, grace.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What do you think about a moratorium? In general? We
have too many immigrants already illegal and legal, many non citizens,
many of them on food stamps, many of them public housing,
many of them ebt and on welfare. It is literally
bankrupting and bleeding our country dry. It is breaking the
(07:58):
back of our welfare system. Is it time to impose
a moratorium an embargo on all immigration? Not forever, not
even for twenty years or fifteen years or ten years,
but maybe for five years, so that way we can
deport all the illegals and b start to ask ourselves
(08:19):
as a country, do we want to have the melting pot?
Do we want a sponsor and push assimilation? Do we
what kind of an immigration policy do we want? Because
it seems to me I think right now fifteen percent
of the entire American population is foreign born. Never in
American history we've had so many foreign born people in
(08:42):
our country, and many of them are not learning English,
many of them are not assimilating. And all you've got
to do is look at what happened in New York
City with Mamdani. The foreign born population put Mumdanni over
the top because they brought in so many. Do we
now have too many immigrants legal or illegal? And is
(09:05):
it time for a moratorium so we can straighten all
this out and devise an immigration policy that puts America
and Americans first.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What say, you definitely need to pump the brakes right
now because we have to deal with the Democrats who
have created a lawless society. That's really what they've created
with this wide open border, and they've let just about
anybody in. And then also it's give benefits to just
about everybody. So these are the two huge problems that
(09:38):
have to be addressed before we can even really have
a properly functioning immigration system. But the problem we face is, yes,
we'd like to do Let's say, in an ideal world, right,
we would tell President Trump just stop every single immigrant
from coming in period, whether legal or illegal. One of
the problems is that we have some cute categories of
(10:01):
labor that we're in dire need for, like doctors, for example,
we have like a shortage of doctors in this country.
So what do we do with that problem? This is
so overall, I would say yes, but you have to
look very carefully at which industries would we also be
blocking that We're in dire need of grace.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
We've got a minute left, so let me just ask
you this. Have we lost the melting pot? Have we
lost the sense in America of assimilation, of Americanization as
it used to be called, that if you're a forget illegal,
if you're a legal immigrant, that you really have to
(10:40):
learn English, you have to understand the Constitution, the Bill
of Rights and truly become an American citizen, not just
in name only, but truly culturally. You know in your
life personally that you come here to become an American.
Have we lost that?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
We have comp completely lost that. And you've got to
consider that we're not only not teaching immigrants what it
is to be an American, We're not teaching our own
citizens what American history is, what the glories of the Constitution,
the Bill of Rights, what our revolution really really stands for,
it's historic impact, how original it was in its time.
(11:22):
We're not teaching the Great Books, we're not teaching the
value of Western civilization. So we're seeing this rot. Never
mind for the incoming immigrants, who, of course they won't
They won't know this if our own citizens don't even
know this. And this is a deliberate plan by the
left to take away our history so that we lose
our uniqueness. Our history informs us as to what makes
(11:46):
us unique in this world. And it is decades that
they've been working hard.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Hard to destroy our identity. You're right, our national identity
are a national culture, our national unity what binds us
as a people and as a country. Grace as always,
dynamite stuff. Agree, disagree all of your calls. I promise next.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came
from his wife. The Kuner Report weekend edition on the
Boys of Boston WRKO
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