Trump vs. MTG

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Coon Air contrary. Okay, my friends, let me
be very very brutally honest with all of you, like
I'm in the confessional. This civil war, and it now
is a nasty, brutal civil war within MAGA between Donald Trump,

(00:21):
the President, Marjorie Taylor Green, Thomas Massey and others, has
now gotten vicious. It has gotten ugly. It is extremely divisive,
very polarizing. And as I said on X last night,
and I'm gonna say it again right now, we need
political infighting like we need a hole in the head.

(00:45):
With the radical left rising, with communism now taking city
after city from New York to Seattle, with now Trump
underwater in many of the polls on the economy, on
in flat, many Americans now saying the price of everything
is still way too high. With Republicans now having taken

(01:10):
a beating in the recent elections, the last thing they
need is more division, more infighting, really just ripping each
other apart. What we need is unity because the enemy
is the radical Left, the enemy is the Democrats, The

(01:33):
enemy is are you know, are the communists? That's to me,
it's so obvious, but that's not what's happening. What's happening
now is that there is a political blood bath taking place.
And my fear is that all this is going to
end up doing is alienating many Trump supporters, many Republicans,

(02:00):
shrink the number that will go out and vote for
him in the midterms. I don't see how we win
with this infighting. I don't frankly, if someone could explain
to me what the hell is going on, I would
really appreciate it, because, honestly, this is crazy. This is
almost borderline politically suicidal. It's insane. What's happening now is insane,

(02:27):
especially in the wake of the fact that the Republicans
just won a massive fight with the Democrats over the
government shutdown, and all of a sudden, now this is
the biggest story forgetting the country in the world. So
here is exactly what took place. As many of you know,

(02:49):
during the government shutdown. Marjorie Taylor Green, who really was
seen in Congress as maybe Trump's staunchest mage loyalist. Whatever
you think of Marjorie Taylor Green, now you know to
give her her due to be honest and objective about this.

(03:10):
She was MAGA almost before MAGA. She was with Trump
from the very beginning she was by a side over
and over again. She was one of his loudest, strongest,
staunchest supporters in Congress when everyone else turned their back
on him, especially after the impeachments and after the disaster

(03:32):
of January sixth, she stood by him through thick and thin. However,
over the last couple of months, especially during the government shutdown,
Marjorie Taylor Green, began to really attack Republican leadership. She
also began to increasingly criticize President Trump. She criticized his

(03:57):
support for Israel in the battle between Israel and Hamas.
She said that Trump was becoming Israel first, not America first.
She then began to criticize his decision to give a
lot of H one B visas to foreigners and foreign
students who then look for work. She then also began

(04:21):
to criticize his decision to give out six hundred thousand
student visas to Chinese students, many of them tied to
the CCP. But one of her biggest criticisms was over
the shutdown, saying that both parties were to blame for
the shutdown and that precious time was being wasted when

(04:43):
they should be focusing on passing the maga agenda, and
above all, she has been demanding and calling for the
release of the Epstein files, and she now says that
she's willing to go all the way to releasing Epstein files.
There is going to be a vote this Tuesday, ie tomorrow,

(05:06):
where Marjorie Taylor Green along with some other Republicans are
going to join with Democrats. They have the votes. So
Trump now feeling enraged, feeling betrayed, feeling that this woman now,
as he puts it, all she does is complain, complain, complain, nag, nag, nag,

(05:28):
And I think for him, the final insult was that
she would go on This is CNN, which frankly I
don't understand because CNN has been Marjorie Taylor Green's mortal enemy.
They have tried to destroy her, destroy her life, destroy
her career. They have mocked her, ridiculed her. Why she

(05:50):
would run to them over and over to do interviews
and bash Trump and in particular bash the Republican leadership
is beyond me. She also recently went on the view
where the view was praising her because she was criticizing
Republicans during the shutdown, and so Trump now feels that

(06:14):
she has become a Judas. And so this is what
he wrote Friday night, and it was just the opening salvo. Quote.
Here's what he wrote on true social and it was
a stunning, stunning, a true social It set political shockwaves.

(06:34):
I am withdrawing my support and endorsement of Congresswoman Marjorie
Taylor Green of the Great State of Georgia. And Trump
goes on to say that during the past few weeks,
despite my record achievements for our country, and he lists
them all and they're very impressive. The total victory on

(06:56):
the shutdown, closing the borders, low tax, no men in
women in sports, or transgenderism, ending DEI, stopping Biden's record
setting inflation, the biggest regulation cuts in history, stopping eight wars,
rebuilding our military, restoring our respect and standing around the world,

(07:21):
having trillions and trillions of dollars record setting invested in
the United States. He goes all I see, and I'm
quoting now directly, is quote unquote wacky. Marjorie do is complain, complain, complain,
all in caps, And then he wrote this. It seemed

(07:46):
to all begin when I sent her a poll stating
that she should not run for senator or governor. She
was at twelve percent and didn't have a chance unless,
of course, she had my endorsement, which she wasn't about
to get. So she has told many people that she
is upset that I don't return her phone calls anymore.

(08:10):
But with two hundred and nineteen congressman slash women, almost
fifty three US Senators, twenty four cabinet members, almost two
hundred countries, and an otherwise normal life to lead, I
can't take a ranting lunatics call every day. I understand

(08:34):
that wonderful conservative people are thinking about primary and Marjorie
in her district of Georgia, that they too are fed
up with her antics, and if the right person runs,
they will have my complete and unyielding support. She has
gone far left, even doing the view with their low

(08:56):
IQ Republican hating anchors. Thank you for your attention to
this matter. Make America great again. So it was brutal,
it was a complete disowning. He's disowner now and he's
basically issued a declaration of war. Now he's calling for

(09:19):
her to be primaried. Marjorie Taylor Green has now responded,
and I'm going to read to you the text a
little bit later. I don't want to just keep reading texts,
but in a nutshell, she says, I don't want to
call him. I don't care that he's not answering my calls.
This has nothing to do with the poll that he
sent me. This has everything to do with one thing,

(09:43):
in particular, the Epstein files, And according to Marjorie Taylor Green,
she says, I have never seen Trump so determined to
prevent the Epstein file files from being released. As she
put it, if he fought as hard for any other issue,

(10:08):
we wouldn't have any problems in the United States. That
he is hell bent on keeping these files from going public.
And that's why he's going scorched earth on me, on
Thomas Massey, on Lauren Bobert, on Nancy Mace, on these
Republicans who are insisting that the Epstein files be completely

(10:31):
released tomorrow. And the question she's asking is what is
he hiding? What is he so afraid of? And Marjorie
Taylor Green then followed this up with another text, saying,
I'm not saying he's involved, He's clearly not involved. I've
always defended the president. I've always defended his policies six

(10:56):
seven two six sixty eight. Sixty eight is the number. Okay,
as someone who emailed the cooner Man said, Marjorie Mtg
Jeff Mtg has gone from Maga to Naga. That's a
very funny way of putting it. Look, honestly, if you
were to ask me six, I don't know a month ago,

(11:20):
two weeks ago even you know, who is the last
person Donald Trump would ever get involved in a feud
with in the Republican Party. Oh, I'd say Marjorie Taylor Green.
I mean they've been together for god knows how many years.
They're I mean they're you know, they're there are two
peas in a pod.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
So I'm shocked. Many people are shocked. And it's not
that this is a question of inside baseball. It's Marjorie
Taylor Green does have many supporters and followers. Clearly not
in the league of the president, there's no question. But
what I'm saying is she does have a strong base

(11:57):
of support in the Maga movie. And so this feud
is going to hurt Trump. I fear. I fear with
some of his most diehard supporters. And it's not that
they're going to turn on him and you know, start
becoming Democrats, but they just may stay home and not

(12:18):
vote in the midterms. And so what's happening now, this
is my fear, is that the coalition that rode Trump
to power is now slowly shrinking. It's shrinking. That's what
this infighting and blood letting and you know this, this
this division, this polarization now is causing. So Marjorie Taylor

(12:43):
Green after being disowned by Trump where he called her
a lunatic, he said that she was wacky, that all
she does is complain, complain, complain, that he thinks now
that basically she's gone over to the other side, that
you know, she's now betrayed him, betrayed the movement, betrayed
the Republicans. She then went on x and fired right back,

(13:06):
and here is what she wrote. Quote President Trump just
attacked me and lied about me. I haven't called him
at all, but I did send these text messages today
and I'm going to read them. But she goes on,
apparently this is what sent him over the edge, the

(13:26):
Epstein files, and of course he's coming after me hard
to make an example, to scare all the other Republicans
before next week's vote, which is actually going to be
this week tomorrow vote to release the Epstein files. So
let me just stop right there for a second. So

(13:47):
what she's saying, I want to give both sides, and
then I want to get you, all of you and
Kooner country to weigh in. What she's saying is no,
it has nothing to do with him not taking my
calls or the poll that showed that they said me
that says I can't win a governor's race or a
Senate race. In other words, it's not personal. It's the
Epstein files, and he's going hard after me because he's

(14:12):
desperate to cover up the Epstein files. Make an example.
You cross me on this issue, I will politically destroy
you and disown you. So this is her argument, and
she continues, it's astonishing, really how hard he's fighting to

(14:32):
stop the Epstein files from coming out, that he actually
goes to this level. She adds, but really, most Americans
wish she would fight this hard to help the forgotten
men and women of America who are fed up with
foreign wars and foreign causes, are going broke, trying to

(14:54):
feed their families, and are losing hope of ever achieving
the American dream. That's what I voted for. She then
goes on to say, and now you can tell it's
very bitter and very personal. I have supported President Trump
with too much of my precious time, too much of

(15:16):
my own money, and fought harder for him, even when
almost all other Republicans turned their back and denounced him.
But I don't worship or serve Donald Trump. I worship God.
Jesus is my savior, and I serve my district Georgia

(15:36):
fourteen and the American people. I remain the same today
as I've always been, and I will continue to pray
that this administration will be successful because the American people
desperately deserve what they voted for for me. This is
how she ends, I remain America first and America only. Now.

(16:02):
In the two text messages that she sent to Trump,
I'm just gonna paraphrase. It's everywhere you can read them,
but just she basically in one of them, says, go
after Bill Clinton. She goes like, check the flight logs,
so she sang, release the Epstein files. This is a
Democrat scandal. People like Clinton and others are gonna get destroyed.

(16:28):
Why are you holding this back? Why are you fighting this?
It makes no sense, and then she sends another text
message to him, saying that in every single interview that
she's done, she goes, I've always defended President Trump, and
I've even told him on the Epstein files that the

(16:50):
women who were abused by Epstein and his pedophile network.
This is what she says, have told me and told
everyone and their attorney that Trump did nothing wrong, that
in fact, he was the only one who wanted to
help them. And she says the Democrats had four years
to release the files but did nothing. So then she

(17:12):
says Trump, and she tells Trump in this text message,
please stop ignoring the women. Many of them literally voted
for you, like in other words, I don't know why
you're going to the wall on not releasing the Epstein files.

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And so those are the two text messages that she
sent that she claims sent Trump over the edge and started,
you know, when he launched that first attack on true
social Now I'm gonna come back. I promise, I'm gonna
take your calls. Trump is determined to get the last
word in and then he fires off a new nickname

(17:57):
against Marjorie Taylor Green and I'm telling you the war
is on six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay. An all out feud
has now broken between broken out between President Trump and

(18:18):
Marjorie Taylor Green. The once extremely close allies now are
I mean, they hate each other. They are ripping into
one another. Trump is now calling her a trader, He's
calling her a lunatic, he's calling her a rhino. He
says now that he disowns her, that he's withdrawing all

(18:40):
of his support that he ever gave her, and he
is calling for her to be primaried. Marjorie Taylor Green,
on her part, now says Trump is covering up what
went on with Epstein, that he is beholden now to
these donors who are pulling his strings and demanding that

(19:01):
he not open up the Epstein files. And now she
has gone on to CNN and to the view saying
that the Republican leadership is now abandoning America and that
Trump slowly but surely is turning his back on the
American people. Six one seven two six six sixty eight

(19:23):
sixty eight is the number. Okay. So I read to
you both Trump's opening salvo and of course Marjorie Taylor
Green going on X and defending herself this. Now, Trump
is determined to get the last word. So this is
the latest. This is what he wrote, uh, just yesterday

(19:43):
quote lightweight Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green. Sorry, lightweight Congresswoman. My bad,
Marjorie Taylor Brown. That's his new nickname for her? Now,
why brown? In parentheses green Grass turns brown when it
begins to rot. Betrayed the entire Republican Party when she

(20:10):
turned left, performed poorly on the pathetic view, and became
the rhino that we all knew she always was. She's
just another fake politician, no different than rand Paul Junior.
In parentheses Congressman Thomas Massey, who got caught being a
full fledged Republican in name only, a rhino make America

(20:36):
great again.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
He then added this. Right after this, he added this
new nickname, Marjorie quote unquote trader Green is a disgrace
to our great Republican Party. So here is how things
stand right now on social media. Everybody's tearing into each other.

(21:06):
MAGA is arguing with MAGA. Trump's supporters and MTG loyalists
now are attacking one another. Uh, it is, it is,
it's it's when I'm talking about internal division. It has
unleashed incredible, powerful internal division and polarization within the MAGA camp. Now,

(21:28):
people are not going to like my take on this.
I'm telling you, everybody's going to be mad at me.
But it's from the heart. I'm not saying that Trump
is wrong. He's got some very valid criticisms of Marjorie
Taylor Green. He does, and to be frank, I'm not
even saying that Marjorie Taylor Green is all wrong, because

(21:49):
I think in some of her criticisms, I think she
is right. I don't like the six hundred thousand student
visas to the UH to UH to the he's trying.
I don't like it. I don't like the fact now
that Trump came out and is a big supporter of
the H one D visa program and actually said that

(22:11):
Americans are not good enough and not skilled enough. Right now,
that's why we have to bring in all of these
H one B visa holders into the United States. To me,
that was a betrayal of MAGA. Honestly, I don't like
the fact that he brought in the leader of Syria
into the White House, a former member of al Qaeda

(22:33):
who has slaughtered Christians who was a jihadist before they
put him in a suit. I don't like that. I
don't know who was advising Trump on that. I never
would have allowed that to happen. So what I'm saying
is there's a direction for part of the administration I'm
not happy with. I don't like some of the direction

(22:55):
the administration's going in on the Chinese student visas, on
Hay one Be's on Now you know, this acceptance and
coddling of this, this this jihadist, this mass murderer in Syria.
But I don't think you can deny his incredible successes.
You know, yes, the criticisms, sure were mistakes made, sure,

(23:21):
but overall he's been an incredible president. So but my
point is, I'm not saying that she's all wrong, because
she's not. What I fault Marjorie Taylor Green is you
run to CNN, you run to the view, to the
very people that have been spitting on you and denigrating

(23:44):
you and defaming you. Literally they've been trying to destroy
your life and your political career, and you go grovel
to them to attack your own party. That's the part
that sticks in my craw to be honest. Now, I'm sorry,

(24:06):
but this to me is first of all, I don't
think she's a trader. I don't like these nicknames, I
really don't. I mean, sometimes against the Democrats they're funny.
But you know, this was someone who was your staunchest
supporter for god knows how many years. And I remember,
I remember after January six he had no friends. I'll

(24:29):
tell you this. Lindsey Graham betrayed him. Lindsey Graham betrayed him.
In fact, he said that Trump would never and should
never come back to power. In fact, Lindsey Graham openly said,
you can look it up. He told the police the
January sixth Capitol Hill police, we gave you guns. Why

(24:50):
didn't you shoot the protesters in the head? Like, what
is wrong with you guys? By the way, Lindsey Graham,
he did not vote for Trump in twenty sixteen. He
voted for that crazy independent out in Utah, the CIA
operative McMullin McMuffin as they call him, Chris McMullen. He

(25:12):
didn't even vote for Trump in twenty sixteen, and he
told the Republicans to abandon Trump after twenty twenty one,
after the January sixth riots. My point is after the
January sixth incident. My point is Trump is endorsing Lindsay Graham.
He just went down to Florida and did a big

(25:34):
fundraiser for Lindsay. Now, Lindsey is not mega, Lindsay's not
even close to Maga. Hell, Lindsay again and again and
again has been an enemy and a backstabber of Trump.
But you're fine with Lindsey Graham. But Marjorie Taylor Green

(25:56):
is the quote unquote trader, then tick wacky crazy, a lightweight. Look,
I'm sorry, the stakes are too high, and i know
I'm going to get a blowback now from everybody, But

(26:17):
that's okay. If I'm not here to speak the truth,
there's no point in me being behind this microphone.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Donnie is rising in New York. They just elected another socialist,
Katie Wilson in Seattle. California is on the verge of
an insurrection. Chicago is on the verge of an insurrection.
We've got inflation in this country which is way too high.

(26:45):
AI is causing companies to lay off thousands and thousands
of employees. The economy is not booming yet. We got
our heads handed to us in the recent off year elections.
The polls now show that we are underwater. The president

(27:07):
is underwater on the economy, on inflation, on cost of living.
Going into the midterms next year, they are going to
be all out to win. And what are we doing?
We're shooting at each other. What are we doing? We're
now savaging each other. I'm sorry, Well, what kind of

(27:29):
political sense does this make? Instead of expanding our coalition,
we're reducing and shrinking our coalition. Okay, as I said
before Mike cut me off, the last two words of
my final exclamatory statement, we need unity, not division. Unity

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Without unity, we're not going to win the midterms. I'm sorry.
And to me, that's the tragedy now of what's happening.
But that's me. I want to hear from you. Six
one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. So let me ask all of you, the
great audience of Kooner Country. It is now Trump versus

(28:13):
Marjorie Taylor Green. We are now in the midst of
a mega civil war. Who side ultimately are you on?
Do you side with Trump? Do you side with MTG?
Or like me, are you just disgusted at the whole thing.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,

(28:36):
lines are loaded, Anthony in Michigan, you're gonna kick us off, Anthony,
Thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
The blessing is always doctor Cooner Hey, one of the
more famous aerospace firms I used to work for. We
had a little mantra, good news in public, bad news
behind closed doors. Marjorie, are you listening? Please heed that? Okay, Jeff,
I completely get this with you. On a lot of things.
Barris and both Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen have been pulling

(29:05):
this new group of Trump voters. They are They want
the Epstein thing done, they want the deep state gone,
The cost of living is a problem. Yes, they do
not want any external wars, and yes they're pissed about
the H one B visus. But I get the external
war thing that Trump's trying to solve because you can't
have incredible jobs here with a foreign entanglement. Now let's

(29:27):
go back to the whole Epstein thing. Did you see
Christine Melma a week or two ago she posted the
numbers of the PATO networks, and the Patos themselves are
rolling up. So the question begs is do you remember
when we got the Enigma machine and we stopped the
Nazi submarines from what was in the data of Epstein?

(29:49):
And did you notice Giselle got a better prison to
go to. Hmmm, who's talking behind the scenes? And there's
a tidbit out there on X was Trump a source
on rolling up the Epstein network? You know, it's like
probably World War Two. Nobody wanted to know why we were,

(30:11):
you know, destroying Nazi subs. Whatever is going on. We
have to be cautious about this. I don't think I'm
wrong on this. Law enforcement's rolling up these networks now
onto the economy. I have a kind of wide scope
on this. I was listening to Kathy Wood of our

(30:32):
Convestments this weekend and her weekly podcast and two old
time entrepreneurs that follow tuss.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
The one's named.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Glarry Kirk, Randy Kirk and Ary Goldberg who were commenting
on her stuff. She's come up with that we have
a lag of data. The Fed blew it. We are
in a deflationary cycle on a lot of our really
not consumer goods, but material to make consumer goods, and
there's a lot of duem going on because of it.

(30:59):
We're actually in pver session. But she notes Trump's tax bill,
where the corporate tax rates are so low. We got
the twenty one trillion coming in from all these foreign investments, Jeff,
when this economy takes off, it's going to be absolutely bonkers.
And what sucks all that it is now?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Anthony, I I agree. Look, I that's where I think
Marjorie Taylor Green is jumping the gun. Yeah. Look, there's
no question. Look I hear it from the audience, you know,
I get. I can't tell you how many emails, text messages,
messages I get saying, you know, Jeff, I'm not happy
with the economy. I'm really not. I'm paying too much

(31:36):
for food, too much for groceries, uh, for insurance, for
you know, you name it, rant everything. It's just it's
all too much now. And you know, they go, look,
was it better under you know, is it better than
under Biden? Yes, but it's still way too high. And
I'm telling you, I am getting a lot of complaints. Look,

(31:57):
they still love Trump, they haven't abandoned him. They're going
to be with him. But they're saying he's traveling too much,
which is essentially what Marjorie Taylor Green is saying, like, Okay,
I'm not against him ending wars, but he's always traveling.
He's always making you know, peace deals, like we want
you to focus here. I need your focus here. We're hurting,

(32:18):
we're living paycheck to paycheck, we're struggling to make ends meet.
So I get that all the time. So that's why
I'm saying there's you know, I'm not saying she's all wrong.
She's not because I know that what she's expressing is
real because I see it and hear it all the time.
In fact, I want to read the text later in

(32:40):
the show. A good friend of mine, staunch conservative, voted
for Trump three times, loves the okay, former law enforcement
and this was before the blow up between Trump and
Marjorie Taylor Green, and he just unsolicited texted me out
of the blue, and you know, I'm on this, and

(33:00):
he said, Jeff, listen, there's a lot of us are
asking ourselves what's going on with Trump? So I texted back,
I go, what do you mean? He goes, what is
he doing? Inviting the president of Syria into the White House?
The man is literally was former Al Qaeda isis who
has killed thousands of Christians. He's a mass murderer. What's

(33:24):
ws Trump doing paling around with this guy? What's he
doing with allowing all these H one B visas? And
then it's the comments that he made with the H
one B visas that Americans are just not educated, smart enough,
talented enough for many of these jobs, these high tech jobs,
And it's like what. And then he goes allowing all

(33:47):
these Chinese students, many of them have many of whom
have ties to the Chinese Communist Party. I mean, we're
going to allow them now, you know, to flood our universities.
They're like, what's he thinking? They're gonna spy on us? Obviously,
they're going to steal our research and development. Like they're like,
what's going on with him? This is not what we

(34:09):
voted for. Now? If you ask them, do you like
the border? Do you like the deportations? Do you like
the big beautiful bill? Do you like what he's done
on DEI? Do you like what he's done with women
in sports? Like you know, I could give you the
whole list. They'd say, oh, yeah, amazing, love him. But
they're saying, what's going on here? I don't understand. This

(34:30):
is something we didn't vote for this. So what I'm
saying is there's anger in his base. There's confusion in
his base, I know. And Marjorie Taylor Green, who to me,
I'm sorry, she's not a leftist, she's to me still
a very staunch maga loyalist is basically expressing what many

(34:51):
in the base are saying. But my god, there's a
way to do it. There's a way to do things,
specially among political friends and political allies. You know, the
left never does this. Whatever disagreements they have or issues,
they solve it behind closed doors, and they don't run

(35:12):
to our side of the media to bash their side.
Only we do that. We always do that, so you know,
So all I'm saying is this is that I don't
under we need this now like we need a hole
in the head. We've got one year. The midterms are

(35:33):
gonna be in one year. And let's be very clear,
if Trump loses the midterms, if we lose the House
and god forbid the Senate, but especially the House, they
are going to impeach and impeach and impeach. They are
going to investigate, They're going to defund, they are going
to paralyze and cripple his entire second half of his

(35:56):
second term. So our agenda is going to be stalled,
It's going to be stopped dead in its tracks. Like
we can't afford this. This is what I'm saying. Like
I'm looking around, is like Terry is sober up and
get out of the you know, get out of the bar.

(36:17):
And look, we've got so much that still needs to
be done. So no, I'm not happy about this. I'm
not I'm not happy. I'm not happy with either of them,
to be honest with you. And I really said the
name calling now and I'm just tired of it. No, Look,
this is for the and I'm going to get to this,

(36:38):
I promise, because this, I think is the core issue.
Everybody says this, everybody, everybody. Trump is not in the
Epstein files. He's not. He never diddled an underage girl,
he never did anything inappropriate, he never did anything wrong.

(37:00):
And Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat donor, and I got
stories for you. I'm gonna just lay him out later
in the show. But how much money he gave, how
directly he involved with you know, directly involved he was
with Democrat after Democrat after Democrat. This is primarily a
Democrat scandal. Suddenly it's become Trump scandal because he keeps

(37:26):
refusing to release the files. And so the question I
have is, why why not just release the files? First
of all, many of them are being released. There was
another twenty thousand that were dumped last week. By the way,
what it shows Epstein hated Trump, I mean conclusively, he

(37:49):
reviled Trump. He couldn't stand Trump. He wanted to do
everything in his power to make sure that Trump never
got elected in twenty sixteen, and that he'd be in
each and removed from office during his first term. So
what I'm saying is Epstein was a mortal enemy of Trump.

(38:10):
There's no denying that now. So what I'm saying is,
when the documents are released, he keeps looking better and
better and better. The Democrats keep looking worse and worse
and worse. So I'm saying, to myself, what is he hiding?
Like this makes no sense? Just release the damn thing.

(38:32):
And the fact that he keeps saying no and no
and no and no, that's what's adding gasoline. That's what's
pouring gasoline on the fire. Now I'll just give you
one more example than I want to go to the
next call. But this was just a couple of days ago.
So the vote is going to be tomorrow. Okay, the
vote is tomorrow. Thomas Massey, Republican Kentucky Marjorie Taylor Green

(38:58):
are going to vote now to release and open to
release the files. Every Democrat is going to vote for it.
They need two hundred and eighteen. So there were two
Republicans that Trump was hoping to flip. One was Congresswoman
Nancy May South Carolina. Lauren Bobert, a big MAGA supporter Colorado.

(39:19):
I want you to listen out of this. Trump asks
her to go to the situation room in the White House.
The White House. Now, Lauren Bobert said right away, she
was I've never had a request like this. I'm just
a member of Congress. I'm nobody. I'm going to go

(39:41):
to the situation room, like what is this? And in
this situation room she is confronted by Attorney General Pam
Bondi and FBI Director Cash Pttel. Now what are they
doing in this situation room? Apparently they closed the door

(40:01):
and according to Lauren Bobert, and I don't think she's lying,
she said, I could not believe the amount of pressure
that they were putting on me, on her to flip
my vote and not and vote against the Epstein files
being released. This is going to destroy the republic. This

(40:24):
is going to consume and destroy Trump's presidency. We are
never going to forgive you for this. You will never
rise in the Republican Party again. You will never get
support for anything in the future. You might as well
just cut your political throat right now. I mean, they

(40:45):
leveraged and leveraged and threatened and berated and threatened and berated,
and she walked out. White is a ghost now. Her answer,
she said, is still no because she stands with the victims.
But I mean, just stand back. You drag a member

(41:05):
of Congress into the freaking situation room, and this is
so inappropriate. Then you have the Attorney General and the
FBI director lean on you, threaten you, blackmail you, practically
almost extort you not to release the Epstein files, which,

(41:30):
by the way, and this is now pretty clear, the
Epstein files are going to blow the whistle on about
several dozen very powerful billionaire donors and many prominent Hollywood celebrities. Okay,
those are the ones that really, you know, went hard

(41:52):
into Epstein Island. So we're looking at directors, actors, producers. Now,
I don't know if some of these donors are donors
of Trump. I don't know if some of these actors
are good friends of Trump's. Like, I don't understand this,
but no, I'm telling you, first of all, Trump is

(42:13):
not involved. Can I be honest? Even if his family
was involved, I'd say, well, okay, I get the motivation,
But no, Don Junior is not involved, Eric is not involved,
Ivanka's not involved, Jared's not involved. No one's involved in
his family, never mind him. No one's involved. So why

(42:35):
it is eating up his political capital? To the point now,
and I'm going to get to this later in the show,
this may actually now consume his presidency. And he seems
to be determined to go all the way, to literally
go all the way. And they're not going to be

(42:56):
released for whatever reason. They're not going to be released,
no matter the political cost. And honestly, I'm baffled. I
am genuinely, honestly befuddled, puzzled and baffled. Thank you for
that call, Anthony, Nancy in Framingham, Thanks for holding Nancy, and.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Welcome, Oh good morning Jeff, My problem is I don't
have a problem with releasing the files. Why Trump first
of all, has to get out like Deleana Roosevelt during
World War Two, would have a five and maybe a
fifteen minute chat every single night to what's really going
on with the country and explain why things are the way,

(43:40):
like the market, like the food, and your cost of
living is not gone down. He needs to do that desperately,
and he needs to explain why doesn't he want to
release the files, give a good answer, and go behind
closed doors and not air it out on the laundry.
My fear is that we're going to have a big

(44:03):
blue wave come and then the country will be gone
because Americans are stupid when it comes to voting. They
know they're going to impeach him, and they'll still not
go out and vote. So now you've got a worse
situation than ever. My feeling is Trump he needs to
get out a five minutes and tens and fifteen minute

(44:23):
chat every single night is what he's really doing and
why he's really doing it, and he needs to do
it calmly. He needs to behave like a and he
needs to behave like an adult without the insults. He
needs to tame down, and he needs to just simply
go and explain to the American people.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
We'll understand.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I think they will. I I don't care whether they
release the files or they don't release the files. Maybe
a lot of people will get hurt. But let it
be and let it go, let the files go, let
them release, and see what the follow us. It can't
be any worse than what happened last Tuesday was a voting.

(45:06):
Am I right?

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Oh, you're completely right, You're absolutely dead on Look, I'm
I'm fearing a blue wave now. I thought it was
going to be impossible even a couple of weeks ago,
but I mean, especially now, this infighting, this infighting is
going to kill us. There's no question. And you see
it's not Marjorie Taylor Green. I mean, those are the personalities, right,

(45:27):
It's you have a lot of people who are I'm
telling you, look, I'm my inbox is already filling up.
A lot of people are siding with Marjorie Taylor Green,
like they're not happy with Trump on this, and they're saying, well,
we're just not going to vote in November. I think
that's crazy. I think you're voting for communism if you
don't vote for Trump in November. But the fact of
the matter is that that's the effect it's having. I

(45:50):
want to ask you, Nancy, in this battle now between
Trump and MTG, who do you think is right? Who
do you think is wrong? Or who do you think
is more right? And who do you think is more wrong?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Because I don't know why Trump won't release the files,
I have to honestly say I'm leaning more towards Mary
Teryler Green because what are the hiding and let it
come out? And so what if some of the donors
donated to Trump, maybe they're no better than the Democrat donors.

(46:29):
That's the simfer think of that.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Well, there's going to be a lot of a lot
of Democrats are going to go down, there's no question,
there's no Look, I'm gonna give you I'm going to
give the names of some of the Democrat donors. It's
obvious the biggest Hillary Clinton donor is directly involved. Bill Clinton,
by the way, is in big trouble. Big trouble, I
mean big trouble. So this is going to take down presidents,

(46:54):
This is going to take down some of the most
powerful oligarchs. In our country. Now, maybe some of those
donors were big Trump supporters and he feels they're his friends.
I'm just see I'm speculating now, I don't know, but
they're his friends. They helped them, you know, win the
election in twenty twenty four. Trump is always known to
be very loyal, almost to a fault. So maybe he's

(47:17):
protecting some of his friends. But you know, again, if
I was in a room with him, I mean, like,
if they were pedophiles, why would you want to protect them? Like,
I'm sorry, I mean, yes, they're your friends. Yes, they
helped you get the power. Yes, they you know, helped
you win the election. I get it. But my god,
look what they did to those girls. And you know,

(47:40):
this was over the weekend. The victims, and there's about
a thousand of them now have come out and they
all showed pictures of the age that they were, Pictures
when they were like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, when they were
all taken to those islands there were two islands, and
Epstein's just handed them over to some of the most

(48:01):
powerful men in the world, and they were violated, they
were assaulted, they were raped, many of them repeatedly. I
don't want a country run by pedophiles. I don't want
a world run by global pedophiles. This is to me demonic,

(48:23):
it's satanic. So expose all of it. I don't care
let the chips fall where they may. To me, we
have to know the truth. We demand the truth now. Honestly,
I really want to know who the hell are in
those files because everybody's trying to cover it up. So

(48:46):
what's in there that is so explosive? That's what I
want to know. Thank you, very really good call, Nancy.
Thank you so much for that call. Six to one.
I mean agree, disagree. I mean I'm just you know
you're going to disagree with me. I'm just giving you
my honest opinion. Six one, seven two six, six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
President Trump, now, in a shocking, stunning move, has completely
disowned Marjorie Taylor Green. He now has withdrawn all of
his support and his endorsement for her. He is calling
her a trader, a lunatic, a lightweight, a rhino, someone
who has now gone over to the other side, to

(49:30):
the left, and he now says she must and she
will be primaried