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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven two six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay.
President Trump now reversus course, now tells Republicans tomorrow, big
vote on the Epstein files. Vote to release all of
the files everything, and he's urging the Senate to do

(00:20):
the same. Republicans in the Senate, he will sign the bill.
He says, you are going to get every shred of
information possible. And let's move on and focus, as Trump
put it, on the economy, on inflation, and on affordability.
And in the midst of this, he and Marjorie Taylor Green,

(00:40):
a civil war has erupted. He is now calling for
her to be primaried. He's withdrawn all support, saying she's
become a rhino, a trader, a lunatic, someone who no
longer can be relied upon, and it is time to
politically defeat her. Disagree. Six one seven two six six

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sixty eight sixty eight. Let's go right back to Chris
on Cape Cod. Chris, please pick up where you left off.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, Jeff, I was just, you know, I put a
little bit of thought into this. And you know, Donald
Trump at that you know, meeting in the White House
where he said, are we still talking about the Epstein
files right then and there, you knew he didn't want
them out. And there's only one thing that I can
think of it possibly might be the reason for this,

(01:36):
and that is Jeffrey Epstein introduced Milania my understanding, to
Donald Trump, and she might be in those files.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Okay, but Chris, when they met, she wasn't underage. Malania
Trump was wagh in her twenties. So let's just say,
just for the sake of argument, you know, just Sleezeball,
this pedophile, you know, this low life sex trafficker, was
the one that set up Milania and Trump. Oh right,

(02:09):
it may be a little bit embarrassing. Yeah, apparently though,
but Sandy, Sandy's telling me Chris that apparently they were
introduced by people. Was it fashion Week that was in Europe,
right or in New York? Yeah, Paolo Zampoli, one of

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these big fashion designers, introduced Milania and Trump in New
York City during fashion Week. So it wasn't even Epstein.
But just this further your theory. Even if it was. Okay,
I mean, maybe it's a bit embarrassing, but it's not
enough to engulf your administration in a scandal. You see

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what I'm saying, it's see what everybody has baffled at.
Even his own enemies now admit because they've seen the files.
Biden has seen the files. Merret Garland has seen the files.
They've all seen the files. Chuck Schumer has seen the files.
They go, there's he did nothing wrong, like he's just

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his name may be mentioned here or there, and it's
usually Epstein bad mouthing Trump because Epstein hated Trump, but
he goes he did nothing wrong. The victims have all
said he did nothing wrong. Jolaine Maxwell said he did
nothing wrong. Epstein's own lawyer said he did nothing wrong.

(03:34):
You know, his lawyer has come out and said repeatedly,
I said, listen, if there's any dirt, and I mean
anything on Trump, not just with underage girls, anything, now
is the time to talk and give the info. This
was when he was arrested for sex trafficking and he said,
I'm telling you there's there's I got nothing, there's nothing
to give. So this is what's been so baffling. What's

(04:00):
he trying to hide And we're going to find out now.
But anyway, Chris, sorry, go ahead, I please finish. I
don't want to cut you off, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I think that Israel is going to be involved, Okay.
I think that all the people that vote tomorrow that
don't vote for it are going to be blackmailed. These
are the cuts that are curtain with MAGA right now.
Israel is a big one, Apak is a big one.
The Epstein files are a big one. Foreign money laundering,

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money blackmailing our congressman. And if they're doing it with
underage people, you're going to find out tomorrow all the
people that don't want to vote for this, Okay, And
you know, Chuck Schumer is definitely the worst out of
the three. And Marjorie Taylor Green she's okay. I don't

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think she's bad at all. I think she's a little frustrated,
but overall she's a MAGA supporter. And yeah, but if
Melania is in there, I think that's going to be
a little embarrassing. And I think that's the only reason
he's such a loyal guy. I can only think that
that's the main I have a feeling that she's in

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there in some way, and he's in there with her
and Jeffrey Epstein involvement with the three of them, and
that's why it.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Doesn't want it to come interesting. Chris, thank you very
very much for that call. No, I've always I suspect
it's either two things. Again, I could be wrong. I
haven't seen the files. I think it's either he's worried
that this is gonna nuke, just decapitate the entire establishment.

(05:50):
And I know you're saying, well, you know, Jeff doesn't
even want to do that, doesn't even want to drain
the swamp.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
No.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I think in terms of a massive fallout, that
it's going to be such it's like a volcano, volcano erupting,
that it's going to consume his presidency, not him, but
it's just going to be this name, that name, this name,
that name that essentially that's all the public's gonna want

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to talk about. It's going to just take up so
much oxygen, so much attention. It's going to be so
damaging and shocking that basically this scandal will eclipse anything
else and that Trump will just have to be a bystander.
As you know, we deal with the repercussions. So I
think it's either that or there are some very powerful

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donors six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight is the number. Let's go to Tanya in Boston.
Thanks for holding Tanya, and welcome I Jess.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, uh for Marjorie Taylor Green, I don't think she's
completely off her rocker. You know, sometimes it takes someone
from your own party to just kind of date what's
going on so that you can kind of come back
into focus. And these e FC files have been extremely

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distracting for a very long time now. And from the
Trump standpoint, I think, you know, just knowing him through
politics and kind of like before when he was doing
entertainment and things, he seems to be very loyal to people,

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but then if they gouge him, he's he holds a
grudge for quite a while. But I think with these
groups of people on this island, you know, even though
he was there, I do think there is some sort
of loyalty that he was trying to I don't want
to say that we'd protect, but kind of like protect
because I think once these files come out, it is

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going to be very devastating, like you said, because we
know what happened on that island. So and I think
a lot of these oligarchs and these big people are
going to go down. And I guess the next question
is is once they are identified, then the bigger question
is what are we going to do with those people?

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Are we actually going to do something about it or
are we going to kind of sweep it under the
rug even though it's been brought to light, Because then
that's going to I'm gonna have a problem with that,
because that's going to pretty much take law on order
and throw it in the garbage. Because if you can't
be accountable for your actions, all these people were adults
that did these acts on these kids, so they should

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be held accountable. And I think he was just trying
to knock it into this muddy mess. But you know,
I do agree that he I'm happy that he's saying,
finally release them. And unfortunately, you can only go so
far being loyal to people, especially if they've done something really,
really bad before. You just kind of got to let
it go and let the cards fall.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
As I think, Tanya, you put your finger on it,
and I think the other problem and I think people
are look, I'm for releasing the files. Just that everybody knows.
I've always been for releasing all the files. I want
justice for the victims. To me, that's the most important thing.
And let me even go even further. I think there

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is a very wealthy, corrupt, perverted globalist elite, both not
just in the United States, but in Europe and around
the world. I think there's no question, and I think
it needs to be exposed. You can't drain the swamp
without exposing this global pedophile sex trafficking network. The names

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that people are throwing around, who went to Epstein Island
and partied with him and what they did to these
underage girls. These are literally some of the most powerful
people in the entire world, and not to me is
a very dangerous thing that this is what these people
are capable of. So this has to come out. It

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has to come out. So I don't want to be misunderstood. However,
I think if you're Trump or any leader, you say
to yourself, like, look, they're talking now about prime ministers,
they're talking about presidents, they're talking about royal houses, They're
talking about some of the most important titans, business, tech

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titans in the world. What I'm saying is this could
bring down governments. This could make it impossible to even
deal with foreign governments. This could lead to collapse in
entire industries. I'm not trying to fear monger, quite the opposite.
What I'm just trying to say is you look at
it something. It's like what you said, this is going

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to be now a big mess. It's going to be
a massive, massive mess. And it's not going to be
a mess where everything comes out in one day because
there are so many in these files. So it's going
to be like drip drip, drip drip. It's almost going
to be like and today it's this person, and now

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tomorrow it's this person, and oh my god, on Saturday,
can you believe this person? So it's gonna be bombshell
after bombshell after bombshell after bombshell. So think about it.
He's like, my administration is going to be in quicksand
who's gonna We can't draw up legislation because everybody's getting

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blown up because everything is being rocked by scandal. We
can't pass anything, we can't do anything. I can't get
public to public to focus on anything. So what I'm
saying is this is why I think the instincts of
a lot of people is, ah, just forget it. It's
just it's a snake pit. But no, in the end,

(11:57):
I'm sorry. I think this is a reckoning. And look, Tanya,
this is just me. There are some things in life
you just don't do. I'm not a country bumpkin. I'm
not naive. I'm a man of history. I'm a man
of the world. I've worked in Washington, DC as a

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journalist for over ten years. Okay, I've been around the block.
We're not talking here about corruption or stealing money or
mistresses or lovers or whatever. Okay, that's been forever. That's
life forever. It's bad, it's disgusting, but that's just life.

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That's human nature. When you start diddling kids, when you
start raping thirteen fourteen year old girls, when you start
holding them in sex dungeons, when you've got a guy
with cameras in bathrooms and rooms most likely on the

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pay of definitely the CIA, probably six and Masad. In fact,
the Israeli media has openly talked about Epstein's involvement with Massad,
The Jerusalem Post, Haretz, Times of Israel, the British media.
There's been story after story about his connections to Six.

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Here in the United States, law enforcement is basically admitted, Yeah, no,
he was a CIA guy. That's by the way, that's
what spy agencies all over the world do. It's not
just the United States or Britain, or Israel or France
or the Chinese do it. The Russians do it. Everybody
does it. You have honey pots, you use people, you
get him in compromising positions, you get what the Russians

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call compramant so and that's how you're able to get information,
extort information. It's a dirty game, but it's a game
that's been played since time immemorial. So I think Epstein
was That's why they let it go on for so long.
Now call me's theory. Sorry, Comer, forgive me. James Comer,

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the head of the Oversight Committee who deals with the
deep state the whole time, he says, no, let me
tell you why everybody's afraid of these files coming out.
He goes, I'm telling you to take it to the bank.
Epstein was a CIA asset. Epstein was being used by

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the CIA to get information and to get compromising information
on some of the most powerful leaders and most powerful
people in the world, so that the CIA could use
them for their own means. And if that meant molesting
underage girls, if that meant allowing sexual predators to run

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wild and do unspeakable sex crimes, well, so be it.
And they know that the American people will not stand
for this, and that this will destroy the deep state,
that people will just say no, I'm sorry, I don't care.

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You may think it's part of your spycraft. We think
it's immoral and disgusting. You don't sacrifice children and underage
girls on the altar of the CIA and espionage. You
just don't do that. And so Comer says, look, they
know the American people in the end will not accept
their excuses. They will not stand for it, and heads

(15:38):
are going to roll. And they don't want heads to
roll because it's going to bring down the entire shadow
government and everybody that was involved with them. So that's
Comer's theory, and I tend to agree with him. You
don't when you start molesting children and you start perpetuating
it and covering it up and allow others to do

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it in order to get Compremand we're now talking the devil.
I'm sorry, but this is Satanism and I don't want
to be ruled by Satanists. I don't want my country
to be ruled by Satanists. I don't want Europe or
the West to be ruled by Satanists, and I don't

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want the world to be ruled by Satanists. And that's
why you know, here I stand. I can do no other.
I have to look at myself in the mirror, and
so to me, you have to release the Epstein files.
Whether you're loyal to people, not loyal to people, whatever

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the political fallout, it just at this point it doesn't matter.
And you know last point that I want to go
to Utannia. I promise I truly believe that Trump was protected,
saved by the hand of God. I truly believe that
maybe one of the reasons why he was saved by
God at Butler was not just to save the country

(17:07):
from Kamala and communism. Six one step two sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, let's go right back
to Tanya in Boston. Tanya, please, final.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Word to you go Yeah, I agree with everything you said, Jeff,
And you know, I do feel that this is the
right path to take, because the problem I have with
this whole scandal is the mentality behind how this started.
They weren't just picking people, they weren't just picking anyone.
They targeted specific people that had problems and vulnerable, came

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from broken homes, they weren't finding their paths at a
very young age, and they needed help. And instead they
bsd these people saying, oh, we'll give you money, we'll
give you career help, we'll put you in a modeling agency.
So it's like to a person that doesn't really know
anything about life. Yet they're seeing and hearing all this,

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thinking it's so great, and then they're going out there
getting groomed and they're making them feel all nice and comfortable.
And then as soon as they get comfortable, then bam,
there comes to isolation and their passports are gone. They
can't get out, and they're just stuck. And I think
because the mentality of that, they all need to go down.

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They all need to be exposed. And it's you know,
I'm sorry if it disrupts this presidency. It does, but
this has to happen.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well, Tanya, Just to again jump off of what you're
saying here, this story broke over the weekend. As you know,
last week the House Republicans released about twenty thousand emails.
This is from the Epstein estate. Okay, long story short
the emails show. You want to talk about Trump de

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arrangement syndrome, You want to talk about TDS. Epstein is
obsessed with bringing I'm down. I'm talking twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen, never mind twenty sixteen when he runs and wins,
and twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. So Epstein loads and despises Trump.

(19:16):
But listen now to this They've now found and this
is just a tip of the iceberg. Remember he was
a convicted sex offender. The Democrats knew that he solicited
sex from an underage prostitute and pled guilty in two
thousand and eight. You want to see what a big

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Democrats supporter and donor he was In two thoy thirteen,
Guess who holds a major fundraiser for a young freshman
congressman by the name of Hakim Jeffries. Yes, the same

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Hakeem Jeffries, who's now the House of Minority, the leader
of the Democrats in the House of Representatives, Jeffrey Epstein.
Now this is after he's a convicted sex offender. And
not only was he holding a big, swanky fundraiser for Hakim,

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but apparently now Obama was involved in that fundraiser. In fact,
Epstein gave Hakim Jeffries the nickname the Baroque of Brooklyn,
the Obama of Brooklyn. He's Brooklyn's Baroque. So what I'm
saying is you just even start skimming these emails, and

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you see, even after he's a convicted, a convicted sex offender,
he was doing fundraisers with Democrats. He was giving them
massive campaign donations. He was one of their top donors. Furthermore,
listen now to this Virginia sorry, virgin Island's delegate gay.

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She is in Congress, but she can't vote Stacey Plasket,
but she can sit on committees a Democrat in twoenty nineteen.
So now, not only is he a convicted sex offender,
there was already word out he's being investigated and will
soon be charged with sex trafficking. So his name now

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is mud It's black, Okay, it's black. The House Oversight
Committee is grilling Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer. Do you
know who is constantly texting Stacy Plasket every step of
the way telling her what questions to ask? Michael Cohen

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saying no, no, no, ask about Trump's executive assistant she
knows where the bodies are buried. Try ask that. No, no, no, no,
ask about the accountant, ask about this. Stacey Plasket was
getting a text exchange text getting texts text messages from

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Epstein as he was guiding her question by question by
question by question. They were up to their freaking eyeballs
with this guy. That's what these files are gonna show.

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This is Hakeem Jeffries. I'm telling you he's going down.
Schumer is going down. Many Democrats are going down. The
only question now is how many Republicans will go down
with them. Tanya, thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciate it. Six one seven two six, six,

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sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, I want to play two
cuts and then get your reaction. A couple lines are
open if you want to jump on to miss Massey. Really,
he's a libertarian anyway, Republican Kentucky. As you know, he
and Trump can't stand each other. There's been a feud
now between the two men. And he was one of

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the key Republicans who was pushing hard to get these
files released, which is now going to happen tomorrow. It's guaranteed.
And so he's on ABC this week, and he's asked
by Jonathan Carl, like, why, I know last night Trump
said release the files, But up until last night, he
was saying, don't release them, don't release them, don't release them.

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So Carl asks Massey, what's he afraid of? Look, why
won't he just say yes and release the files. Listen
to Massey's response, It is very telling. Roll cut to Mike,

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why does he want to prevent this? What is he
what is he afraid of?

Speaker 5 (24:01):
You know, I've never said that these files will implicate
Donald Trump, and I really don't think that they will.
I think he's trying to protect a bunch of rich
and powerful friends, billionaires, donors to his campaign, friends in
his social circles. And that's my operating theory on why
he's trying so hard to keep these files closed.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Interesting. Interesting, Now he kind of elaborates a little bit more,
because Carl says, well, a lot of the files have
already been released, and as I told you, now, some
of it is very damaging to the Democrats. I mean,
is it really just donors and rich, powerful friends and

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people in a social circle? Like is he willing to
damage his presidency over that? Like in other words, like
they're like, it just seems to pay such a high
price over essentially donors and friends. So listen to Massy
even elaborate more, saying, well, actually, I have spoken to

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the lawyer of the survivors, and the lawyer has seen
the files, and he goes, let me tell you what
the lawyers have told me. Roll cut three, Mike, what
do you think is left?

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't have to guess at what's in the files.
I've talked to the survivors through their lawyer, and we
know there are at least twenty people in those files.
There are politicians, billionaires, movie producers who are implicated criminally
who haven't been investigated.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And it's up to the FBI.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Not the survivors, and the DOJ, to release those names
or at least to investigate them. And when I see
Donald Trump announce a bunch of investigations, I don't see
him going after these rich elites that are implicated in
these files according to the survivors.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Okay, well, now Trump has come out and said he's
ordered Pam Bondy to investigate Bill Clinton his ties to
Epstein Reid Hoffman, as I mentioned, a huge billionaire donor
to the Democrats. He's bankrolled Biden, Obama, especially Hillary Clinton.
Reid Hoffman is a very big fish. So you've got

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a big former president Bill Clinton. You've got Larry Summers,
former president of Harvard, well connected Democrat. He also wants
him to be investigated, Reid Hoffman to be investigated. There's
some big banks involved as well, JP Morgan Chase. He says,
now go after them. So basically, Trump is saying, Okay,

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this is how you guys want to play, then I'm
going to bring the whole damn thing down. If this
is how you want to play, let's play now. I
want to play. A cut by Marjorie Taylor Green. I'm
not saying I agree with it. I'm just saying you
need to be aware that it's out there. She is

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convinced that Israel is involved in this. She's convinced of it. Now.
She has no evidence, but she's convinced that maybe Trump
is trying to protect the Israelis or Masade or some
people close to him who are close to Israel. But listen, now,
she's saying, it's more than just donors and Hollywood's celebrities

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and friends. In social circles. She thinks this is more geopolitical.
Roll cut eleven.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Mike, you questioned who and what country is putting so
much pressure on Trump to keep the Epstein files hidden,
and you included a picture about donations from pro Israel
lobbying group at APAC. What are you trying to say there?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, I think it's the question that many Americans are asking,
especially when we saw information recently come out in these
email mails that the Oversight Committee that I serve on
has released, and we saw Jeffriette Seine with ties to
a hood Barack. We saw him making business deals with them,
also business deals that involved the Israeli government and seems

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to have led into their intel agencies. And I think
the right question is to ask is was Jeffreyette Stein
working for Israel?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
He was working for the CIA, that's for sure. He
was also in bed with m I six according to
the British media, that's for sure, and at least according
to the Israeli media or some major Israeli media outlets,
he may have also had ties to Masade. But to me,
the bigger see, this is the thing I don't like

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about Marjorie Taylor Green. She's implying that he was only
working for Israel. No, his primary backer was the CI.
There's no question, There's no question. So frankly, I'm more.
I mean, I want his connections to come out completely
to whatever foreign government or foreign espionage or spy services

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he was tied to. Don't get me wrong, but I'm
an American and to me, my number one concern, my
number one question is how deep was he in bed
with the CIA? And did the CIA know what he
was doing and encourage him or allow him to continue
knowing that these poor young girls were being victimized and brutalized,

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just to continue to get compromid to get compromising information.
Because honestly, if that's the case, I want heads to roll.
I want to know who authorized it, what did they know,
and when did they know it? So, but anyway, she
thinks the Israelis are involved. Two six six sixty eight

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sixty eight. Kim in Brighton, Thanks for holding Kim, and welcome.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
Good morning, Jeff. Thank you for taking my call, my pleasure.
I just sent you an email about what I'm going
to talk about. Recently, I had gotten a meme that
said politicians are paid actors, reading prepared scripts, and this
seems to be true now more so than ever. Trump's
ad hominem attacks against MTG I think are really disturbing

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in their poerisle. We have so many problems in the country,
and the fact that we keep getting sidetracked on all
these things makes me feel very concerned that there's really
no one out to help us the taxpayer and America
and all of our problems domestically. And I don't really

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see anything happening that that supports us. The fact that
Trump had campaigned on releasing these files over and over,
he's the one who started that. And to your point,
and this is satanic ritual abuse that has been going
on for decades, probably centuries, from the secret societies, and
in my opinion it's probably it might be half of

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half of the governments around the world, maybe all of
the countries, maybe many of them. And then to gaslight
us and say there are no files or anyone who's
interested in this as an idiot, that was so degrading
to all of the supporters. And what I'm seeing are
broken promises, starting with a lot of the people we

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had faith in that are lower than Trump, like for example,
Pam Bondie, I call her Pam Pfeiser Blondie. I learned
recently that from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four
she represented Peiser. Those are the clot shot years twenty
one to twenty four, which is very interesting. So it's

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hard for me to take anything serious that she says.
She said that she had the files on the desk
and she was going to release them, and suddenly that
went away. So you could get whiplash going back and
forth from we're getting them, we're not getting them. But
I believe it's really the key to everything, and it's
it's the key to the I don't even like to.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Use the word elite.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
So the globalists or they called them the Luciferian money printers,
the men who run the world. And we think it's
us and our country and our election, but these people
who rule them because when you look at the other
politicians and in the people in the in these high
high positions, look at Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, they

(32:44):
were talking how they would change everything, and then now
suddenly they're like different people. All of them are different people.
It's just it's very hard, it's very hard to understand
all of this and it's very, very frustrating. But I
would encourage everyone to go to a website called vigil
citizen dot com. And the person who writes this, I
think he is afraid for his real identity, so you

(33:08):
never know who it is. But I've been reading this
for probably twelve to fifteen years. I think I've read
everything he's ever written, and you will really learn about
the music industry. But he has. He had an article
in twenty nineteen called Jeffrey Epstein the True Ugly Face
of the Occult Elite, and he talks about the satantic

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ritual abuse and to the when you were reading a
quote about Virginia Gouffrey and Prime Minister Ahud Barak, all
of that's in there, and it's in court filings, it's
in her memoir. So I think this goes on and
includes so many people, and maybe maybe governments would collapse,
and maybe they need to collapse, and maybe things have

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to have to change that way.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Well, it could bring down the British royal family on
top of everything else. Prince Andrew, I mean, we'll already
have to pay Virginia Fray hush money. He had to
settle with her. But it's all coming out, how he
victimized her over and over again. Epstein knew this. Epstein
kept supplying her to him, and some of it is

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very graphic. Apparently he got very sweaty. I'm not trying
to gross people out, but Andrew, Prince Andrew would sweat
and sweat and sweat when he was victimizing Virginia Guphrey.
And she said, you know, the sweat just like pour
it all over her body. She paints like an absolutely
disgusting man. Well, you know, the royal family is begging

(34:36):
Trump not to release all of this because this is
going to be a massive scandal in Britain and the
royal family's already on the ropes. So this could bring
down governments, This could bring down globalist billionaires, This could
bring down royal houses. I mean this could be huge.
And look, I want to go back to something you

(34:57):
said earlier, Kim about Trump. I find his sense of
humor funny. I'll be honest. I generally laugh. I think
he's very funny. I think he's got to comedic gift.
And when he goes after his political opponents, I generally laugh.
And I when people say, well, he can be very
vicious well, I go, his opponents are very vicious to him,

(35:19):
and my answer always is welcome to the NFL. In
other words, they play rough. This is smash mouth football.
So you know, generally it doesn't bother me. I've got
to say, though, on this Epstein files issue, and I
don't know why he's coming across as a bully, and

(35:39):
let me just and I'll show you what I mean.
He went after Thomas Massey. This was just a few
days ago, and just to understand the context, Congressman Massey
again one of the four Republicans leading the charge to
open the Epstein files, which now Trump has agreed to.
But he was out there, you know, with Marjorie Taylor

(35:59):
Grew and Lauren Bobert and Nancy mas Massey had been
married for thirty years, apparently lovely marriage. They had multiple children,
even have grandchildren. And then his wife passed away in
June of twenty twenty four. And in about a year
he met a staffer who worked for Senator Rand Paul

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and this staffer, her name is Caroline Grace Maffa. They
apparently fell in love. They got married about a baby
within a year. This was just recent a couple months ago.
They got married, and it was on his farm that
he owned. Now Trump said this to Massey. This was

(36:43):
when he was still holding out against releasing the files
a couple days ago. Did Thomas Massey? This was on
true social did Thomas Massey sometimes refer to as Rand
Paul Junior because of the fact that he always vot
votes against the Republican Party? Get married already? Three question marks? Boy,

(37:08):
that was quick, No wonder the polls have him at
less than an eight percent chance of winning the election anyway,
Have a great life, Thomas. And he won't say the
woman's name, he says, question mark. His wife will soon
find out that she stuck with a loser in all caps. Now,

(37:35):
I'll be honest with you. You want to attack Thomas Massey,
go ahead. You want to call him a loser, go ahead.
You want to call him a rhino, go ahead. But
when you start bringing in the wife, and you know
the fact that he was married for thirty years, she died.
He just recently got remarried after a year of mourning.

(37:58):
Whatever you think about it, whether it should be done
not be done, that's really his business, you know. Apparently
Massy's been open about it. His children attended the wedding,
his grandchild was a ring bearer. And to go after
the wife and to bring in the wife. I'll be honest,
it's a low blow. It's below the belt. It's uncalled for.

(38:24):
And if I was advising, I might say, look, mister President,
attack Massy all day, all night. Fine, But when you
start going after the wife, I'm telling you you're going
to come across as a bully like. It's not presidential,
it's beneath the office and dignity of the President of
the United States. What does his wife have to do
with anything? Kim agreed, disagree.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
I would say he should have kept that opinion to himself.
It's not germane to anything of relevance. In my opinion,
does it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Make him look bad? That's what I'm saying, Mike. You
can't let her answer. Okay, Kim, thank you very much
for that call. Let me throw we're up against a break,
let me throw it out there. What do you I'm
just a small log, not the end of the world, obviously,

(39:16):
But do you think a comment like that does it
make Trump look worse