Blacks in Science with Psychologist Dr. Warren Harper.

Blacks in Sceince Ancient and Modern with Psychologist and Mental Health Specialst Dr. Warren Harper on The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio.

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A The Rev Johnson Show. Itis indeed a pleasure to have you with
us once again on this Thursday,March seventh, twenty twenty four. Enjoy

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this fabulous day to day. Getready as we get into session. He's
back in the house. Our psychologists, mental health specialist Raceman, Doctor Vaughren
Harper is here to give us alittle history lesson. As always, when
it's your turn to talk to knowyou can. All you need to do

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twenty four, is your birthday.Happy birthday to each and every one of
y'all out there who may be celebratinga birthday on this day, we say
God, y'all go out and celebrateyour life. You better, you better,

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and we come back. We'll talkwith psychologists, mental health specialists.
And he says, waste man too, Doctor Warren Harper with me Bev Johnson
on the Bev Johnson Show on wd I A good morning and welcome back

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to wd I A The BEB JohnsonShow. It is a Thursday, March
seventh, twenty twenty four. Enjoyedthis fabulous day today. I was thinking,
let me say this. In thehouse, we have our psychologist,
menal health specialist Raceman, doctor WarrenHarper is here, and I was thinking,

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dot cod, today is my father'sbirthday, March March seven. I'm
thinking, thinks to him, Yeah, he would probably be I'm thinking ninety
four, ninety five some Well,yeah, he's one of those. Yeah.
But this is my dad, WilliamVan Johnson. My dad's birthday to
day. I thought about that.How you doing, doctor Harper. I'm

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doing fine. And my dad leftin ninety three, ninety six, Oh
wow, wonderful. Yeah, Butmost of that time he was he was
he was vibrant, he was talkative. He liked to get out and drive
his car. Yeah, and goshopping. They what have you? So?
Uh? He and he worked.Okay, didn't they all back in

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those days? Hey, they weren't, didn't they, Doctor God had my
father had two jobs fo time job. My father had two jobs. To
my father, he worked at thepost office. Then he started his own
little business, painting business. Andsee, asked Bev Johnson, y'all,
how many jobs she's got, askeddoctor Harper, how many jobs I have?
Still? Still we had? Westill work at Doc Harper. We

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were indoctrinated to have to have moreof the jobs than than well, not
more doct we needed, but morejobs because we needed to have that money,
that kind of income support our family. Yes, and you're right,
you're right, you're right. Butyeah, so yeah, yeah, I'm
glad you said that. Well,doctor Harper, I am glad to have
you back today. You know,folks be waiting for you they when doctor
Harper, I said, he's comingcoming, And I tell people, I

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said, doctor Harper works too.You work well, Doctor Harper. Want
to start off this morning our topicof conversation Blacks in Science Ancient, Ancient
and Modern, edited by doctor Ivanvan Certema. Wow, and I know
over the years blacks men in science. Oh, we've been there. We've

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been there before when we were thefirst, before they came over here.
That's exactly right. We were thefirst. We were the first. So
let's start talking about blacks and science. Okay. In an effort to counteract
the imprisonment of only officially celebrating thehistory of Africa as well as the magnificence

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of African and African American scientists,I have decided that each time that I
come on the BEB Johnson Show,that I will present to a listening audience
segment which recognize the achievements of ourancestors and to honor and acknowledge African black
history throughout the entire year, andGod willing each year to come in an

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effort to highlight African history throughout theentire year, my first and most challenging
discussions will showcase the brilliance of theauthors who have dug deep into African history
to present essays on African science,astronomy, agriculture, architecture and engineering,
aeronautics, mathematics, medicine, metallurgy, navigation, physics, writing systems,

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along with specifically drawing attention to BlackAmericans in the field of science and inventions.
Obviously, I will not be ableto present all twenty five essays today,
and I have intentionally chosen a numberof scientific and technological discoveries made by
African at African Americans and the wondersof their and our bla magnificence. I

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have selected a host of mind opening, new and learning material to share with
my Nubian family. The forward tothe book entitled Blacks in Science, Ancient
and Modern, is edited by anAfrican Guyanesean scholar and our ancestor, doctor
Ivan Van Certema, who was wellknown amongst African scholars as the author of
the book entitled They Came Before Columbus, The African Presence in American Ancient America.

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He was also the Associate Professor ofAfricana Studies at Rutgers University, an
editor and founder of the Journal ofAfrican civilizations. Doctor Ivan van Certema starts
out by exposing the intentional ignoring ofAfrican scientists and inventors by so called European
anthropologists and historians who were able towhitewash African history and miseducate the entire world

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into believing that all that Africa hadto offer were jungles, primitive tribes,
savages, and no contribution of anytype to world history. He states,
quote evidence has been unearthed in thefield of agriculture and pastoral science, arche
texture, aeronautics, engineering, mathematics, mining, metallurgy and medicine, and

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navigation in physics that has made thewhole ground upon which conventional studies of Africa
have been built rock violently with theshock of astonishing discoveries. These are astonishing
only because the nerve of the worldhas been deadened for centuries to the vibrations
of African genius. Every new revelationhas made us realize that the eyes of

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the anthropologists and historians have been focusedon the edge or periphery of the African
world, blind to all that haslaid within the heartland of his civilizations.
He goes on to say that anthropologyhas had a long love affair with the
primitive and has preferred to set itstent down amongst the African bushmen, exploring

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the simplicities of tiny tribal communities ratherthan complexities to be found in the primary
centers of large African nations. Evennoble African scholars, in their romantic embrace
of the exotic savage, have cometo the conclusion that the African invented nothing,
explored nothing, but occupied some specialsensory or emotional realm in his experience

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of the natural world five centuries.He says, that's five hundred years of
these falsehoods have been exploded in justfive years time. These years have seen
the discovery of African steel smelting inTanzania fifteen hundred to two thousand years ago
and astronomical observation in Kenya three hundredyears before christ, the civilization, the

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cultivation of cereals and other crops byAfricans in the Nile Valley seven thousand years
ago, the force other civilizations,the domestication of cattle in Kenya fifteen thousand
years ago, the domestic use offire by Africans one million, four hundred
thousand years ago, which was onemillion years before it was first known use

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in China, the use of tetracyclineas an ancient African population used fourteen centuries
ago. An African glider plane twentythree hundred years old, and a discovery
beneath the sands of the Sahara Desertrevealing cultures two hundred years old and the
traces of ancient rivers running from thisAfrican center to the Nile and Nubia.

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Doctor Ivanban Surta writes, quote,few Americans are aware of the major contributions
of black people to modern technology.In nineteen thirteen alone, as many as
one thousand inventors were patented by AfricanAmericans, and those were the fortuned few
who got as far as the patentoffice. In the essay entitled the Last
Sciences of Africa and Overview, doctorIvanban Certama takes us through a host of

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African discoveries and technologies, to includehow European anthropologists and historians marveled at the
way that African people communicated information almostinstantly over vast distances, long before the
telegraph, Morse code, or theradio. Now we do know how Africans
communicated through the use of drums,but we marvel at the technique as communicating,

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as described by Charles Breastitt, whosefather was the most celebrated of American
egyptologists. Charles breasted told of amethod that the Nubians used to transmit the
human voice for a distance nearly twomiles across the Nile River. He observed
and reported that a man spoke withhis friend who was two miles away.

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Quote by the man, standing atthe very edges of the river, perhaps
ten feet above its surface, andcupping his hands some four inches in front
of his lips, would talk intothe water at an angle of about forty
five degrees a loud voice, butwithout shouting. At intervals, the man
would stop and listen, while theother man in the distance would reply,

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but the European anthropologist, who stoodclose by, heard no sound. Afterwards,
the conversation between the two men wouldcease, and the observed man,
with matter of faculty, tell theanthropologist what the conversation was about, describing
a technique of talking into the waterand being heard two miles away. Wow

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in the field of metallurgy. Thedoctor informs us that in nineteen seventy eight,
anthropology Professor Professor Peter Schmidt and Professorof Engineering Donald Avery of Brown University
announced to the world that between fifteenhundred and two thousand years ago, Africans
living on the western shore of LakeVictoria and Tanzania have produced carbon steel and

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pated and preheated forced draft furnaces,which was not done by Europeans in Europe
until the nineteenth century. The professorswho announced this road quote, we have
found a technological process in the AfricanIron Age which is exceedingly complex. To
be able to say that a technologicallysuperior culture developed in Africa more than fifteen
hundred years ago. Overturns overturns popularand scholarly ideas that technological sophistication developed in

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Europe and it did not. Itdeveloped an Africa. In the area of
astronomy, doctor Ivan van Certama givesus a summary of the technological brilliance of
Africans in Kenya when, in nineteenseventy eight, again a team of American
scientists from Michigan State University uncovered anastronomical observation in Kenya dated three hundred years

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before Christ and the Dogon people ofMali had astronomer priests who studied the Solar
System and the universe, along withthe rings of Saturn, the moons of
Jupiter, the spiral structure of theMilky Way, the galaxy. They knew
the Moon was barren and dry anddead like dried blood. They also knew
of a star which no one couldsee except with the most powerful telescopes.

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But they were able to see theunseeable star and were able to calculate its
mass to pot its orbit almost upuntil the year two thousand and all this
was done between five to seven hundredyears ago. A scientist from the Argon
National Laboratory named Hunter Adams the Thirdwrote an article entitled, quote African Observers

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of the Universe, the Serious Questionunquote. The article exposed of the scientific
breakthrough of the Dogon astronomer priests.He not only summarizes the work done by
the anthropologists on the Dogon, buthe exposes the gross prejudices of Eurocentric scientists
who tried to explain away what theDogon people have done, who simply would
not accept that any African astronomer priestscould have developed a science of the heavens

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so advanced that it could yield knowledgewhich until the twentieth century escaped European observation.
Furthermore, two French researchers who livedwith the Dogon people for over twenty
five years, and other researchers likeHunter Atoms, brought the knowledge of the
Dogan astronomer priest to the public light. As quoted by Adams, quote to
provide such detail about something that onlythe most advanced observatories can detect today,

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and to do it in advance,sent shock waves throughout the scientific world.
Adams also tales of the haters ofAfricans doing such technologically superior research, and
writes about characters such as Kenneth Bretcherof the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who
said, quote they the Dogon haveno business knowing any of this, and
that a Jesuit priest must have toldthe Dogan astronomer priests about this knowledge,

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while another denier of African genius namedRobert temple Of, a member of the
Royal Astronomy Association of Great Britain,said that quote space beings it. He
said, space beings from serious starsystem must have brought this marvelous knowledge down
to the Africans, and later oneof America's celebrated astronomers named Carl Sagan,

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who stated that the knowledge of theunseen star Cirrus and all other universe real
relations came from a European traveler whoappeared amongst the Dogon before the anthropologists came
to study them, and that thisEuropean exchanged his sophisticated knowledge of the stars
and term for the savages. Simplestory, unquote. And this comes from

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a so called superstar, evidently whitenationalist American astronomer who had a TV series
called Cockmos Cosmos. This just goesto show us that institutions which are bigger
than individuals have colluded to miseducate usand to let and to lie to us
of our ancestors, the Dogon astronomerpriests, who were gifted to see the

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unseen and to tell others about it. And how was it accomplished by the
Dogan astronomer priests. It was accomplishedby having gained knowledge of the stars as
a result of their observations of thenight sky over thousands of years. Let's
stop there. Wow, Wow,just won't give us credit. Won't do

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it, won't do it. Won'tdo it, Doctor Harper, won't do
it? They're claiming that spacemen camedown and talked with the dogon and even
if that was the case, thespacemen knew he was talking to the right
people. Right, you, right, you right. We're talking today.
We are in session with doctor WarrenHarper. We're talking Blacks in Science,

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Ancient and Modern. Edited by doctorIvan Ben Sturdeman. We are talking today.
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Good morning, and welcome back todo w d i A. We're
in session with doctor Warren Harper.We're talking Blacks in Science, Asient and
Mordern, edited by doctor Ivan vanCertema. Doctor Harper continue, Okay,
let's turn our attention to the essayentitled quote Black Contributions to the Early History

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of Western Medicine written by doctor FrederickNewsom, who states that modern presentations of
ancient medicine, however, deprived Blacksof the knowledge of their early contributions to
medicine while ignoring or subtly dis misrepresentingthe black identity of the ancient Egyptians.
And he went on to say thatblacks entered, or more accurately began the

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drama of Western medicine where one wouldsuspect in Africa. I want the listening
audience to note, he said thatthe original name of Egypt is Kimmitt,
which means black village, black city, or black community. Doctor Newsom informs
us that the ancient Kmetic people numberone produced the world's first physicians, who
were for millennium millennium means for thousandsof US years, enjoyed the reputation of

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being the most skilled in the world. Number two produced the world's first medical
knowledge and literature, and number threethey influenced and contributed to hip Hippocrates Hippocrates,
the hippocrit the Hippocratic tradition and developmentof medicine in ancient in ancient Greece.
Now, before we go any further, let me elaborate on this claim

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of African doctors of Kimmt contributing toHippocrates. The point is that the Western
world racists want us to believe inwho they claimed to be the father of
medicine, named Hippocrates. But thetruth is that Hippocrates was trained for nine
years in Kimmit studying medicine, includingthe writings up in Hotel, who,
as I will discuss soon, wasborn two thousand years before Hypocrates and was

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believed to have treated over two hundreddiseases, including tuberculosis, appendicitis, gout,
gallstones, and arthritis. So theGreek and European racists speak only of
Hippocrates as the father of medicine,which is typical of these deceivers and those
who choose to write themselves into historyas being the first, when in actuality,
we Africans were the first people andthe first physicians. Now let's get

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back to the reality of chemic Africansand the first doctors. Doctor Newsom teaches
us that the first king of Egyptwas named Mensies thirty two hundred BC,
and he had a son named Athropis, who later became king in rule for
twenty seven years. King of Thropisalso practiced medicine and wrote books on anatomy.

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This is thirty two hundred BC.Wow. The other African who has
been touted as the first physician isnone other than m Hotep, and this
information comes from knowledge written in stoneon the hieroglyphics. In Hoptep was born
about two nine hundred and eighty BC, some three hundred years after king and
physician Athopis. As I have spokeof before, in Hotep was the designer

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of the step pyramid at Saquerium,as well as an engineer, statesman and
the first universal scholar. And thereis another first physician who we have never
heard of, in which the Europeanscholars have chosen not to inform us of.
His name was hess Ray hgsy raHesray twenty six hundred BC, who

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was also a scholar, a scribeand chief of dentistry, and a physician
to the pyramid builders of the ThirdDynasty. There is a drawing up Hessray
revealing his wooly hair, his woolyafro hair. The same writer that gave
us Hessray the title of being thefirst physician also gave us the name of
the first African female physician, anAfrican doctor named Prishett who was a chief

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physician. So what we do knowabout Hippocrates is that he established the medical
School at Costs. But the newrevelation is that the Medical School at Costs
was affiliated as a branch of theEgyptian medical schools. So if there is
anyone in the listening audience who wasstill a disbeliever about the brilliance of Africans

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in the field of medicine, thenyou need to see a black doctor,
preferably one who can examine your head. So there you have it. In
the field of medicine, here arethe original first physicians, and they were
African men and first female physician whowas also black and African. The next
essay in this same area is entitledthe African Background of Medical Science by the

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expert physician on Egyptian medicine, doctorCharles Finch, who confidently states quote the
Egyptians were writing medical textbooks as earlyas five thousand years ago unquote. He
goes on to state that it isof interest that the Egyptians were alone amongst
the nations of antiquity in the developmentof specialty medicine, beb specialty medicine in

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the Old Kingdom, the diseases wereunder the care of a specialist such as
a bone setter guild in Egypt,who treated fractures in dislocations, and they
devised a completely effective method for deducingcollar bone fractures, and that Hippocrates used
these techniques later when he began topractice medicine. Present day doctors believe that
such specialty care doctors developed over theyears, resulting from progressive evolution of medical

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techniques and knowledge, hardly realizing thatspecialty care or specialist doctors originated in Egyptian
medical schools. Now, come,my brothers and sisters, and let doctor
Finch take us through a typical medicalexamination that was conducted five thousand years ago
by African doctors. He begins bysaying, quote, a physician summoned to

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examine a patient would begin with acareful appraisal of the patient's general appearance.
This would be followed by a seriesof questions to elicit a description of the
complaint, the color of the faceand eyes, the quality of the nasal
secretions, the presence of perspiration,the stiffness of the limbs or abdomen,
or the condition of the skull wereall carefully noted. The physician was also

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at pains to take cognizance of thesmell of the body, sweat, breath,
and wounds. The urine and feceswere inspected, the pulse palpitated and
measured, and the abdomens, swellingand wounding of wounds probed and palpitated and
measured. Percussion of the chest andabdomen were performed, and certain functional tests
which still are in use today,bev Sometimes the case required more than one

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consultation, and might, as itis done today, embark on a therapeutic
trial to ascertain the efficacy of thetreatment. It also seemed that the Egyptians
practiced a form of socialized medicine.All physicians were em employees of the state,
and medical care was available to everyone. Now isn't this interesting that over

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seven thousand years later, we stilldo not have medical services available to everyone.
Looks like under the leadership of Caucasiannationalists in the health care profession,
we're going backwards, not forward.The Egyptian surgeons performed cesarean surgery and brain
surgery which is referred to as trepening, which involved boring a hole through the
skull to the outer covering of thebrain to remove fragments from the skull itself.

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This was done to treat epilepsy orto really chronic headaches. They were
also experts in and obstetrics and handlinggynecological problems such as inducing abortions and preventing
conception. They also had even hadan effective pregnancy test. Children's diseases,
obstetrics, and the usual medical complaintswere treated by women doctors while the male
physicians conducted surgery, bone setting,and special diagnostic and therapeutic problems. And

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I also learned from this book thatBantu midwives used Indian hemp. They talked
about marijuana here. They used hempduring labor for sedation, they had anesthesia.
Wow. Lastly, African doctors developedfew new treatments for diseases which were
brought into Africa by Europeans, suchas venarial diseases. And they had access

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to penicillin which they extracted from amold which indicates that the Egyptian doctors were
aware of the bacterial cidal properties ofthis drug. And that's want to focus
on another extraordinary technical wonder which isalmost unbelievable. What it is that I
am referring to is a twenty threehundred year old glider aeroplane which doctor Kahil

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Messiah discovered in nineteen sixty nine,which indicates that the Egyptians were experimenting with
flying machines as early as the fourthand third century BC. The scientific model
of a flying machine was really foundactually in eighteen ninety eight in Sakara,
Egypt, and it was placed inthe Egyptian Museum where they placed ancient replica

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of birds. Since at that timeeighteen ninety eight, no one at that
time knew of anything such as anairplane. However, an Egyptian physician who
was also a model aircraft amateur andan artist, was able to distinguish the
model plane from the models of thebirds surrounding it, and it was different
from birds. This for us wasclear in his eyes because birds tails are

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horizontal, our aircraft have vertical tails. And it also had wings completely different
from bird wings, but exactly likeaircraft. Wings. Doctor Messiah, as
I noted before, was an amateurmodel plane builder, and after discovering the
aeroplane, he decided to make areplica of the plane, and sure enough,
when thrown into the air, itactually flew or glided. Furthermore,

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doctor Messiah stated, quote, itlooks remarkably futuristic and bears a close resemblance
to the African excuse me, tothe American Hercules transport aircraft, which has
a distinctive wing like the Egyptian aircraftwhich is twenty three hundred years old.
This all indicated that the maker ofthe model aeroplane, whose name is Pi

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d emend his name was Pi dEmin, which means gift from Amman,
which means gift from God, andthe Egyptians were very advanced in certain areas
of knowledge, including elementary aeronois.In a short essay, doctor Stuart Mallory
of the Oceanographic Science Division, BrookhavenNational Laboratories informs us regarding the technology in

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the ancient in the area of ancientAfrican watercraft or dugouts dating back to pre
Columbian area, which means before fourteenninety two, Doctor Stuart Mallory states that
black Africans were neither sedentary nor timidabout great travels upon land and the sea.
Indeed, African people explored as muchas they were explored. He further

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points out, through research and thewritings of other European explorers, that Europeans
frequently underestimated African components and capability inmany areas, including naval and architectural achievements.
Doctor Stuart Mallory expands our knowledge ofAfrican sea going vessels like the dugout,
which was made from two large treetrunks joined together to increase the boat

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size and carrying capacity. We thenfind out that there were African canoes which
were large enough to carry one hundredand twenty people, and that these extended
boats made from an African dugout treewere effective before the Europeans penetrated the coast.
As one European explorer described seeing massivecanoes as having houses. The massive

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canoes had houses on them which arethatched with straw and in which fires are
kindled, food prepared, and peoplesleep and live together. The roof for
the house of the canoe is circularand formed in such a manner as the
upper part of a covered wagon inEngland, these houses are of the most

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essential service to the natives. Asand as with their assistant merchants are enabled
to travel with some degree of comfortwith their wives and households, several days
of journey up and down the NigerRiver, without being under the necessary necessity
of landing, except to purchase provisionsor whatever they feel inclined to do.
So, my brothers and sisters,this sounds like the first of a kind

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cruise ship to me. This suggests, as doctor Ivanban Certum indicated in his
book entitled They Came Before Columbus,that Africans had the mind and the means
to cross vast distances of water,and that they were the ones if anyone
who did first cross the Atlantic Oceanand land in Mesoamerica, which is the
land between Central Mexico and as faras down as Costa Rica. Let's stop

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there. Wow, interesting whoa doctorharpervers say, when you're talking, I
talk about the saying there's nothing newunder the sun. That's right. Anytime
someone talks about the first they're wrong. They're wrong. They're living in the
present and they're talking about what's happeningnow. When they talk about prize fighters

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of the world, the greatest ofthe world. No, no, no,
this country may be this country,but not the world. Yeah,
always be careful when they start talkingabout the first unless you're going back to
Africa. We're talking today. We'rein session Blacks in Science Ancient and Martin.
Today we are talking with doctor WarrenHarper. We'll open up our phone

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tell them BEV Johnson since you don'tadd nothing else on to it,
just tell the BEV Johnson sent youto the rock and Chair fifteen forty two,
Elvis Presley Boulevard. We are gettingready to go to our phone lines.

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Thank you so very much for waitingand starting off with Marcus, Hi,
Marcus, Yes, Bev greetings andgreetings you doctor Harper, Greetings,
there is a pleasure in your commandof Commander radio. Speak truth, Doctor

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Harper, you speak the truth.Thank you. You see these people have
been lying to black folks. Seeand Wendy Wendy colonized black folks and enslave
of black folks also colonized information.Yes, you say, kept kept the
information from black folks. And theysaid, oh well, we went to

(40:12):
Africa, we just grab some peopleknow those folks they grabbed from Africa was
people with skills. You your appearance, did know nothing about growing cotton?
Are going car ill grow growing inEurope? Right? So these people have

(40:35):
been lying, lying like yes,and you know, my my parents I
always say every liar is a thief, lying and stealing. You see,
land grabbing, kidnapping, every everythingyou can think of. These people have
done to black folks, you know. And then when you when you when
you speak out, and then whatthey do They said, oh you are

(40:59):
racing, you're being ready? Shouldsay, I what doct is the truth?
So doctor Harp, keep spitting thetruth, keep on keeping on.
Thank you, Grandma, Thank you. Marcus w D I a brother,
Omar. Yes, I'm glad tohear you there. You're one of my

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favorite guys. Uh please be toboth of you. And now I recommend
I recommend an easy book to readjust called now Bist Contributions to Civilization by
Anthony Brother And am I also readingdoctor uh D. I know you've heard
those things. I have been reading. And they said being under a period

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of ice for a long time wasthe making of the Caucasions had to do
with the Caucasus Mountain and uh,it's just it's just fantastic. It's fantastic.
Sometimes oldhead that I had to putit up and risk to where take
me a break? Sure? Yeah, the first pay road. This this

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a book. You're easy to read. Doctor. Let me let me,
let me let me point something thatSymos about. But doctor b Up had
a symposium somewhere and those fights therewere against black advancements. He showed them
the pigmentation of the black pray roadsand they walked out angry. You're right

(42:30):
about that? What you coming on? Will you comment on what I said?
And I'm gonna listen with you.We'll say your brother Omar. First,
let me let me point out somethingthat that you mentioned. It kind
of breinges over quickly. Uh,it is one. One theory is that
that that is that Africans migrated everywhere. They came every went everywhere, and
many went north, all right,as they went north towards towards what what

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what would become Europe, because therewas no Europe back then, it was
just there was up north. Thatwhat happened was that they got up north
and then the ice Age took place. During the ice age, they were
not able to come back down southagain and over those thousands of years,
okay, that facial features changed ourskin, but without the without melanin coming

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out, without sunlight in vitamin D, they didn't have sunlight in Vita mendi.
So therefore, over periods of time, their skin color changed, their
facial features changed. That's how wehave difference in terms of facial features and
the color of our skin. Uh. Obviously digap was was brilliant and he

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blew their minds, but he didnot just do that to just kind of
be kind of a showstopper. Hewas pointing out to him to them that
he had he had data which camefrom examining and going back using a aa
I think it's miochondrial DNA or somethinglike that. He was using these tests
which were scientifically proven to show thatthe skin of these Egyptian people were of

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black people. Okay, And theydidn't want to believe any of that because
they had written themselves into history asbeing the first of everything, and in
reality, they brought their asses toEgypt, and Egypt the Egyptian priests taught
them what they needed to know,and then they had the nerve to go
up to Greece and claim that itwas what their knowledge of the world is.

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That shows you how pathological these peoplehave always been when it comes to
telling the truth about history. Andwhen I think about it, I always
think about this. Doctor Harper willtalk about Egypt, and I tell people,
remember and wasadt did that? Lookat him? Look how he looked.

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That's exactly right. And Wasada lookat him? And he had an
African mama. Yes, keep inmind. Keep in mind, folks,
long ago, keep in mind Europeans. Europeans drew these lines all across the
continent of Africa back in the daysof talking about there was no lines.
Oh Jerusalem, that was Africa.There was no lines back in those days.

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Yeah, okay, so all thatwas Africa. So when the people
talk about Jerusalem and all and whatever, Saudi Arabia, uh uh all Africa.
W D I A hi, George, how you doing? Bell doing
well today? George and yourself?I'm blantastic And I'm just so excited every

(45:30):
time I heard doctor Hopper. Hemakes my hair grow with that wisdom.
Yeah. Look here, you knowthey already got my order over at the
rock and chair. I'm gonna dothat catfish to day with them yams in
that turn of greens Ome here.Do you remember Bishop College, right,
Bell, Yes, I do?I do you remember my millionaires? My

(45:52):
millionaire friend called me a coatrel Hegave a lot of money to Bishop College.
Yeah, cause he created that proline, you know, that relaxer
and the story. Yeah, youknow, Stevie won in covid They go
way back, you know, themost town town you know. But look

(46:13):
here, Coma Contreil had a goodtalk with me. I was spending the
weekend and his mansion down there inDallas, Texas in the eighties. You
remember, we were in Young Blackyoungk Black Programmers coalition, you know,
yes, And we went down therein Dallas, Texas, and he told
me the story how he started proline. He was in the military and
they had no black product for theblack soldiers, you know. So he

(46:39):
got with us a black scientist friendof his, and they created that perm
relaxer for the black hair out ofa science project. Coma Contrail being a
you know, entrepreneur, got themoney into it. And you remember Stevie
Wonder. They used to say hishair hurt, They say he was nap

(47:00):
aheaded boy, but he actually putthat he actually used that word on one
of his songs, Little Nappy HeadedBoy. I think the name that song
I wish. But my point isthis, doctor Hopper, Black entrepreneurs in
the military had to create something fromscience for their health because of the racism,

(47:22):
they could not get in it blackproduct. All right, carry on,
sir, I'm listening. Thank you. George w. D I a
high caller. Hey is that beautifulbeve? Hello? Has ay? When
it's when this is spoken of amongscholars of the medical community, I wonder

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what their reaction are And I wonderhas there ever been a thiefing presented to
change the book? And what wasthe reaction to that thiefs if there was
ever one? We know I Idon't know how to answer that question except
to say that doctor Charles Finch,who was who was an Egyptologist, excuse
me who, who studied medicine Egyptologyall all of his medical life. He

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has been out talking about this forthe last thirty or forty years. So
they're well aware of it. Arethey willing to change it? No,
They're not willing to change it becausethey do not want to acknowledge the Africans
who taught Hypocrates and the rest ofthem. They don't want to do that
because that will say to the worldthat they're liars. So if we presented

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it now, if they were rejectedat the top, that's what they would
do. No, what they'll probablysay is that is that, yes,
there was some some rudiments of medicalknowledge that the Egyptians had, and yes,
we're so glad that they were ableto pass it on. But see,
the Egyptians didn't write that much interms of medical books as far as
they're going to tell you. Youknow, because at back five thousand years

(48:52):
ago, unless they had the papyrus, many people weren't writing down everything that
they needed to write down. Butthe Greeks were writing things down, okay
uh, and on papyrus as well. So therefore they would probably say that
that, yes, some some informationcame from Egypt. They will now if
you if you press them and say, well, wait a minute, didn't
your didn't Greek doctors go to Egyptfor medical school? They were probably acknowledged.

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Yes. Again. But see,the sneaky thing that's that's been done
throughout history is that is that asone as one of the editors of this
book says, was that what they'lldo is that they'll say that Egyptians did
it, but they'll never say theywere what what what what color of their
skin was. They'll never acknowledge thatthey were black Egyptians. And still to
today, the senior person over allEgyptian museums and archaeology what have you,

(49:38):
it's claiming that the Egyptians were whitepeople, and he's he's the person of
color that's deep lives did that?Yeah, all right, thank you,
William. Wow, I didn't knowthat, doctor Harper. Yeah, all
you have to do is google.I I don't know, but yeah,

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he is fighting. He is fightingto say that that that there were no
black Africans in Egypt, that theywere not African period. Wow, look
at the continent. Yeah, where'sEgypt on the continent? He w G
I a high caller. Hello,Hello, BEB Johnson. Hi, how

(50:22):
are you? I'm fine, I'mfine, john Great? Great. Uh.
The knowledge that you're putting out,I just hope it shows black people
how great they are, how greatwe are. We are the greatest race
of people that ever walk this planet. When black people look up in the

(50:44):
stars at nighttime and see all ofthose bright stars shining when the stars look
down on this on this on thisplanet, they're looking at us because we
make this planet shine. We're thebright stars on this planet. And what
you're talking about, black people justneed to hear and listen and take it
in. And when you mentioned andWat said that, I was talking to

(51:05):
an Arab friend of man from Egyptand he was telling me that I should
come to Egypt, live in Egyptand visit Egypt and how great Egypt is.
And I told him, I said, dude, Egypt is just like
the rest of these places. There'sa bunch of racist Arabs and I will
be treated worse there than I'm treatedhere. And the only time that there
was peace in the Middle East iswhen they had a black president and watter

(51:30):
that. So let's just go aheadand put that out there. But right
now that you're talking about the inventionsof black people, black Africans, well,
right now the US saying that Chinahas overtaken the US on the GPS
system, the satellite GPS system,which a black woman created invented, well

(51:52):
they are afraid because right now Chinais going to Africa, China is going
to South America, China is goingto get all of that knowledge that we
gave this country, that we providedthis country. They want the same knowledge
from Africa and from South America,all of these black countries and continents that
can help them overtake this country.And they seem like they're overtaking this country

(52:15):
except for finances. So black people, thank you, doctor Harper. Thank
you Beverly for taking my call.But black people, you need to realize
just how great you are. Ifno one's giving you respect, I mean,
you shouldn't give them respect at all, none of them. So thank
you, doctor Harper, Thank youBell Johnson. You guys have a great

(52:36):
day. Oh yeah, And theblack leader that created the GPS is doctor
West. Glad Us West. Thankyou and thank you guys so much.
You're welcome. Thank you mister James. Yeah. One thing I would I
want to mention is that you know, doctor Harper did not just wake up
yesterday and know all this. DoctorHarper read the book and read the book
for over, over and over,because some of this was as heavy stuff.

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And believe me, I haven't evengotten to some of the heavier stuff,
which I might start talking about inthe in the in the weeks to
come. But again, The nameof the book is Blacks in Science,
Ancient and Modern I, edited bydoctor Ivansband Certema. Now I want to
point out, and I hope thisdoesn't turn people off, this book is
not cheap. It comes from theWest Indies. You see what they do

(53:19):
when you got knowledge like this,They don't even carre it in the United
States. Wow, it had tocome from the West Dendies. It took
three weeks to get here. Itcosts one hundred dollars, but quite frankly,
it was worth. Knowledge is power. Yeah. Wow, and you
think about that, doctor Harper.Hell, look at the books around here
they trying to ban. Look isthat something they want to banned book?

(53:40):
See, first you banned the book, then you ban the college. They
come to HBCUs. See, youcan't teach black history, authentic black history
at elementary high school, but youcould teach it in college where you're gonna
get rid of the colleges. Yousee what they do? Oh yeah,
oh the devils. Well let mesay this, DoD you mentioned I'm coming
back to the phone lines when you'reabout HBC. You heard about the senmetery

(54:04):
in Mississippi. That's what I'm talkingAnd I meant that I wanted to tell
you all yesterday. I guess thatthat bill did not pass. It did
not pass. So those cities tellthat the bill did not pass. Trying
to close those black schools in MississippiHBCU. If if the former failed Rump

(54:25):
gets in office, it'll pass.Hey, I hear you. You gotta
keep them out office, got thatright? W D I a high caller,
hire you on the air. Goodmorning, Miss Bell Johnson, doctor
Hopper, good morning, good morning. How are you, oh, just

(54:45):
find just science, just siging.I'm listening to y'all y'all radio stations,
and y'all it's on point on everythingbecause I am a black inventor, young
black inventor myself, and I knowthat that that that these things are real
and that people that I here arelooking to take advance of. But black
people are uh uh uh our kitchenand put it not there. You know,

(55:05):
I have the black young black invendor. I have invented thing that that
I know guaranteed that the the ridof COVID corona uh virus allergy. You
know, I mean, it's it'sso simple, you know what I mean?
Because all this stuff is airbors andeverything you know, but uh,
but uh, but uh you canjoin me on Jimmy Burke's Facebook pages and

(55:27):
look at it. And it's sotrue that that that we are gifted.
We are so gifted at black people, all right, call it. Thank
you caller. See you know we'regifted. But see when when you when
you internalize your, your, your, the the it's these alien cultures.
You pick up all all of theirat barrant and all their all their bizarre
and all their dysfunctional behaviors. Andsee, we've internalized so much of their

(55:52):
of their devilishness, that we've turnedit on ourselves. And so we need
to decolonize our own minds quickly.D I a high caller. Hi,
call you there. Oh yeah,okay, you're on the air, go
right ahead. Oh okay. Ilike to thank you and doctor Hoppo putting

(56:14):
this information out. But what itis is that the truth by the original
people are just beginning to come out. That scripture. God said that's gonna
happen, and it is happening.So everybody need to get ready because this
guy gonna crack soon. Y'all havea good one, you too, brother,

(56:36):
Bye bye. W d I AHi caller, Good morning, Miss
Johnson, Good morning, How areyou pretty good? How you doing,
commander doing great, brother, MissJohnson. Most people have said what I
would like to say, but Ialways call you in the name of Scott.
But my first name is my firstname is Islam, and I'm gonna
tell you something that I'm gonna saysomething most people will not say. Yes,

(56:59):
I'm watched the doctor was a blackman and part of his mother work.
But also the names to doc meanthat he's a direct descendant of the
prophet Muhammad teach just so uh wecould be proud of that too. Thank
you so much for give me aspeak. Thank you, Scott. I
appreciate you. Thank you so much. Going back to our phone lines,

(57:20):
w D I a hi caller,Hello, mail Chaplin, Coummings here,
Hey chaplain commings? How are you? Oh? Just greaty ship mate?
How were you? Brother? Great? Show? Listen. I want to
plug my favorite doctor of optometry,doctor Patricia Bath. That's all right.

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She died in the twenty nineteen andseventy four years of age, and she
started that because she saw how badthe cataract were doing black people in Comforton
and Watts. I mean Compton andthe Haarlem and that's what she based at

(58:07):
all. But amazed when I gobecause I have a lot of trouble and
I always ask the young black youknow in turns in the over the VA
hospital and things like that, howhave you ever heard of Patricia ball Ain't
look at me and said, no, I never heard of her. And
I'm wondering how you in that field. It's not like it's a hit ancient

(58:30):
history, you know. I mean, it's amazing how easy they smooth and
wipe our people out right in frontof our lives. You would think that
would be one of the prime movesof one in that field to want to
succeed and be as great as shewas because she was the only African American

(58:52):
signed you know black, uh withmale or female in that after my school
whatever. You know, I'm notwith the medical turns, but I because
I born with a lady's eye,never had but really, you know,
when I so, I've always youknow, attuned to what was going on
and you know what to affect me, and so it's highest come up with

(59:14):
their knowledge. But to me thatsince Ben, it's amazing to me.
They look astounded, like in noway somebody could know that, and they
are black people don't know why it'sbecoming ophtalmology is optometry or whatever is in
the in the I field. Youknow, That's all I wanted to say.
I just wanted to bring that outbecause I love the history. But

(59:35):
I would just thinking how recent thishistory is. I didn't see ever been
dad what four years and it alreadyis being wiped out the map. Thank
you, chapping commings, Thank you? Right? Why w d I a
high caller? Hi is King,I'm doing. How you doing, doctor

(59:57):
Hopper? I'm doing fine? Thankyou, I'm if you know you're telling
I call and I started listening.Then my man just get the running.
I was just coming down Vance Avenueand I was telling my sister. I
said, you know, it's justreally bad. All the history of the
Black mansions, there were five tenbands. But the smiths, the schistels,

(01:00:17):
the gates, the thomass, allthose they made sure they tore them
down. They had they had,They had beautiful mahogany staircases, they had
breakfronts, they had the marble andthe floors. Even the old churches,
church buildings that I don't believe inall but King Solomon to stay. I
wanted and laid out beautiful building,Doctor macago on Krunk, but that's not

(01:00:40):
what he was just saying. Howpeople don't know. I just talked to
the young man and Krogon on Unionand I was telling him, he's a
medical student. You had to dealgo back to the group, go back
to the world. You got tolearn some Greek, you know, you
got to learn the ovigital language,you got to learn the naguage. Don't
know what you're dealing with. Andthey they don't go in the further back

(01:01:01):
the mister bubbles out of Southphis.They were doctors. I think they were
a college chapel back in the day. But the reason I called doctor Hoppin,
Yes, you were talking about thegift sentence and the learning tools.
Well we knew about the hotalyptics,right, But remember Kadafi I just said
when he died, all the newsvery briefly. They showed you the museum

(01:01:24):
that was there, and it wasthey showed him very brief and it was
there were hieroglyphics, so that hejust put their knowledge where they wanted it
to be at and we can goback to the world of God being who
he was, and on that notecontinues, thank you, I thank you
kok by w D I A Icaller to there. Hey, unforgetful high

(01:01:51):
man, y'all got a great showgoing on, Doc Horper, I really
appreciate you. It's just a coupleof things I just want to say about
the show, Uh, Doctor Harper. If they in a way that you
could find out or you know alreadyabout the archaeologist for our people are black,
that's in that field. Is itthat's a few or is it you

(01:02:12):
know about half or what you know? I don't know, but I'm sure
the same as there is associational blackpsychologists, associational black social workers, associational
black engineers, there's probably an associationof black archaeologists. I'm sure there has
to be. Just google that.Yeah. The reason I asked Dev Johnson
and doctor Harper is, you knowwhen I went to the City of Ramsay's

(01:02:36):
and there was some some type ofblue bowl they had on the zibbit that
was from the No it wasn't Yeahit is Ramsey, I think it was.
It wasn't Keen Tuck I think itwas. But anyway, it was
a blue zippit there like a bowlsometimes and when I looked at it,
it just blew my mind because Icouldn't understand how they would have something like

(01:02:58):
this. It was in a sensegrowing like the neon colors. You know.
This was back in the early seventies, you know, and I couldn't
understand how they did that back sometwo thousand years ago. And plus when
I was in the military, Iwas in Central America. Down there and
in the middle of the jungle,I saw this thing look like like you

(01:03:25):
know, Indiana Jones type situations,some kind of area where people used to
live and everything. And I sawpeople of black faces all down there and
sucking. But it was covered injungle. I mean, this right here
had to been here for thousands ofyears. And it just blew me away,
you know. And all this stuff, you know, I didn't know

(01:03:46):
nothing about. But when I sawit, I just had this strange feeling
come all over me because it wasjust amazing. Man, these two things
that I experienced when I saw itto my own eye. I just hope
one day, doctor Hall, thatI could go and see the world above,
you know, and stay the somethingsee the brutish for blue colors and

(01:04:08):
the color of this world. That'swhat I really want to see this world?
All right, all right, thankyou unforgetful eight three three five three
five nine three four two eight threethree five three five nine three four two
high caller, Hey, miss John, how you doing. I'm doing well?
In yourself. I'm fine, I'mfrying. Thank you, Breton,

(01:04:30):
how you're doing? Dot a HobbI'm doing fine, brother yourself? Thank
you doctor. I got to cookin the questions for I just came on
lunch break and I just got in. I heard somebody mentioned was it and
washed or dot? Was it thedot? Yes? Yes, okay,
what's he Egyptian? Guess he wasthe Egyptian? Yeah? Okay, so,
uh the reason why I asked becauseI said, Kagaski he was Egyptian?

(01:04:51):
Also, right, was he fromfrom Egypt? Bright? Now Kadafi
wasn't from Egypt, He's from uhwhere was that Libya? Yeah? Yeah?
Like yeah, they're like next door, right, yeah, you got
the album something like? But anyway, Uh, I've seen something online to
where they were saying that, youknow, when he was uh assassinated murder

(01:05:14):
or whatever, that he was takenout. I mean, now I've seen
this online. I don't know howtrue it is, but he was basically
assassinated with the help of the USAgovernment because of some of the things that
he was doing in his country,not not necessarily bad things, but he
wasn't depending on the US government anytype of phonement from the US government.

(01:05:38):
Uh. It was like the peoplein their country had no uh what's the
word I'm trying to use. Uh, they didn't have to pay for medical
care and uh, he sent thekids to college for free, and just
a whole lot of things that openthe eyes. Uh. And they said
that he really Uh this is whatsome some somebody online was saying. Look

(01:05:59):
like a blog that they made upto say that he was a terrorist just
to go in to put their ownpublic government in And I just wanted to
hear what you have to say aboutthat. I know this may not be
the topic that you have today,miss Johnson, it's close enough. Yeah,
I'm not I'm not an expert onon on on the history of of

(01:06:19):
the brother you're speaking about, butclearly yeah, no, clearly uh,
when it when it comes to destabilizingthe country, the American government, as
far as my opinion was, haddestabilized his country. They were. They
were telling us all kinds of crazythings about what he was doing, which
was basically none of our business.But see, he had massive oil and

(01:06:42):
he was not going to play thegame with America of basically being the being
their pet dog. And he madesome comments, he made some comments about
America which they didn't like. Plushe was going to give the nation of
Islam a lot of money and theydidn't want that to happen either. So
what did they do? Go on, what did they do? They destabilized

(01:07:02):
his country. And when you destabilizethe country and you and you demean the
leader as being savage and what haveyou, then what happens is that with
the help of the American government,probably the British government and all the rest
of them that wanted to go inthere, they destabilized it and they and
they ended up having this man killed. Yes, Sir and doctor, I

(01:07:24):
got one more question, Miss Johnson, if you were allow me to ask
zout the hobby and I'm going toget off the phone. Okay, with
this thing over in Israel in theMiddle East, and I mean, I
don't they're saying the numbers of Palesteniansand the people and God being killed man,
And I'm wondering why no one elsehas stepped in. I mean,

(01:07:47):
it was a brutal thing for thosepeople to go over. Me wanted to
kill what twenty seventeen hundred people?But why would these people let their onslaughter
and the slaughter continuing, and andto go on over in their little piece
of land? Man? For youhave to have to keep killing these people?

(01:08:08):
Why why? I mean why,I mean, why is it anybody
stepping in in your opinion to stopthis? I mean, I just want
to know. Yeah, well,it puzzles me. Why why the Arab
countries, uh, and those andand and the countries in that area have
not spoken up more forcefully. Now, keep in mind, our government is
not gonna let you know if theyare speaking up more forcefully. See,

(01:08:29):
but it blows my mind that thatthey're allowing that. When I was stationed
with my wife and I were stationedover in Bahrain, right into Saudi Arabia,
whenever you did something to one ofthese people, they have a whole
family that comes after you. Theydon't play. And believe me, what's
happening in Palestine right now, thethe Jews believing the Jewish people who are
in charge of the military thinking thatthey're going to get rid of a war.

(01:08:51):
Believe me, they have just theyhave just put themselves in the spotlight
of being at war for eternity rightright because that I mean that, man.
I mean, I don't know ifthe numbers are correct or you know,
if they're exagerating the numbers on theon the depth. But man,
thirty thirty thousand people and what forfour months some US citizens? Man,

(01:09:16):
we would have bumped the Come on, man, look what they did.
And you know we in Afghanistan atthe nine eleven in the range, I
mean Iraq, So I mean,but hey, I'm not gonna take them
any more your tab. But Ijust really appreciate what you've just spoken on,
doctor Hobbin, and I want tothank you and thank you miss Johnthan
you said you all have a greatday, and you too. W d

(01:09:38):
I a high caller. What's up? Bell Jones? How you doing?
Hey, little daddy? How areyou? I'm good? What's up?
Doctor Hope? I got I wantto add doctor Hop of course, Okay,
it's like a little mixed or somethingnot that. In New Years.
I want to know how come theywon't let us the people. Uh now

(01:10:00):
might be some people like me.I wouldn't mind coming going over there where
we come from, because simple fact, they stole. They stole all the
other slaves in the day. Everybodyknow, even though I know, and
they shifted everybody over here. Myquestion is, I want to know how
come they won't let us come comeover there and see that we want to

(01:10:25):
like their countest or whatever whatever.Then I got another, of course about
how I want to know how thepeople living over there, if they like
the city of Memphis or just cuttingup sideways like that, or is it
that they just a great country?That's what That's my course. I want
to know. I want to Iwant to I want to say this,

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but all other folks that didn't didn'tdidn't let us go yesterday. They need
to do something about there, Bill, because simple fact it's a lot of
people got disappointed, even nay Bill. They need to do something about there
that the drive ris of break outthis way. We voted it you too,
little daddy. Yeah, well yeah, going down. There's nothing stopping

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any of us from getting a passportand uh seeking out any any of the
countries on the continent of Africa.However, you have to be careful and
cautious because, uh, the Americangovernment and the British government and other governments
throughout the world. UH and China, the Chinese government, the Russian government,

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they're all destabilizing the entire continent.At this point, everybody's got their
fingers in there trying to take theminerals and resources out of there. So
therefore, whenever you have those mineralsand resources being fought over, you have
you have natively, you have youhave tribal and tribal differences that start to
rupt, and before you know it, you've got this this army over here

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fighting this army over here. Andin the meanwhile, you've got the Chinese
and the Russians and the American extractingall the minerals. So, you know,
I think there's no there's no problemif you go over to some of
these countries, like like Egypt orother countries, as long as you go
and you have the proper information,you have the proper shots and what have

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you, and you basically stay ingood hotels and you're a good tourists and
what have you. W b Dboys left America basically feeling that there was
no hope for change when he left, and we also have Stokely Carmichah who
also left and went over to GhanaI believe as well. So you can
go over there if you want to. You know you're gonna it's gonna cost
you, and believe me, whatyou what you're gonna find is that it's
not America. Right, So don'tgo anywhere thinking you're gonna see America because

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it's never what you think it iswhen you go there, which is not
saying it's going to be bad.It's just that don't expect their culture to
mimic this pathological culture that you're in, but it also may have aspects that
are very negative too. So getsome information before you go. We are
talking away in session. Hold on, callers, We will definitely get to

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you. Dr Harper is here.We're talking about blacks in science, ancient
and modern. This day. Eightthree three five three five nine three four
two eight three three five three fivenine three four two is our number.
We're going to the other side ofthe BEV Johnson Show right here on w

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w d IA Memphis. Help areyou go? You go? So?

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Getting ready in time? Let's gowe make goy right here? Wrong?
You d listen to what to say? You know it's time about to fish

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about show lanky, let's go,welcome back. We are rocking and rolling
on this Thursday, March seventh,twenty twenty four. We're talking about blacks
and science ancient and modern. Andbefore we go back to our phone lines,
doctor Harper, you wanted to say, yeah, I want to say
the shout out to my wife,doctor Janace Harper. Doctor Janace Harper has

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the five oh one C three andshe has been sponsoring uh, the food
and uniforms and other supplies for aschool in Liberia. Wow. Liberia.
Wow. I started to contribute tothat as well. And believe me,
when you see the pictures that theysend back of the little little Liberian children

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lining up to get food, youknow it would break your heart. So
I just wanted to make that knownbecause you know, not all, not
all of any place is bad.There's always good there and we have to
support good. Yeah. Yes,And I was just thinking when we were
talking about countries look at what's goingon in Haiti. Wo. God,

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there's black folks over there, butlook what's going on in Haiti? Yes,
yeah, wow, I just hadto say that. Y'all remember that
w D I A Hi Mary,Hi, miss and doctor Harper and doctor
Harper. Yes, the knowledge likeblood to my veins. I want to

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thank you both for all this wonderfulknowledge. What are we gonna do if
you're no longer with us? Istumbled across a Great African American. It
was on my desktop one morning,George mc junkin, a Great African American

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cowboy. Are you familiar with him? I'm not, but school me on
that then, please eighteen from borneighteen fifty six to nineteen twenty two,
and I'm reading from the wicki Idio. Born to slaves in Midway, Texas,

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Mick Johnson was approximately nine years oldwhen the Civil War ended. He
worked as a cowboy for a freighter. He reportedly learned how to read from
fellow house punchers, talk himself toread, write, speak Spanish, play

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the fields and guitar, eventually becomingan amateur archaeologist and historians. In nineteen
sixty eight, McK jenkin arrived inNew Mexico and became a foreman on the
thomas Ons pitch Fork Ranch. Mcduncanbecame a buffalo hunter and worked for several

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ranches in Colorado, New Mexico,and Texas. He was also reported to
be an expert bronc that you know. He rode horses, you know,
the ones that buck. He wasthe best at what you know, the

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horse that bump, you know,ride them and they were buck and horse
bucking broncos. Yes, yes,rider and one of the best ropers in
the United States. He became aforeman of the crow For Ranch near Folsham,
New Mexico, and n In twentynineteen, he was inducted into the

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Hall of Great Westerners of the NationalCowboy and Western Heritage Museum. Discovery of
Folsen site after the flood of Augusttwenty seven, nineteen o nineteen eight nineteen
o eight, which killed eighteen peoplein Folson, mcjunkin assessed damage at the

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crow Forts Ranch. While patching offence, mckjenkin entered in a roll that's his
that's a dry patch where when itrains it floods, where he discovered remains
of several giant prehistoric bisons exposed wherethe flood had deeply eroded the auroral bed.

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Among the bones of the bison wasa distinctive type of stone tools,
now called a folsome point. Recognizingthe significance in the sixth significance of the
fine, mcjunkin l left sight undisturbed, except for recovering a few sample points.

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For several years, he tried tointerest archaeologists, with little success.
In nineteen eighty he sent samples ofthe bones and a length point to the
to the Denver Museum of Natural HistoryHistory Okay, who sent teleologist Harold Cook

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during following the spring and he andhe and McK jenkins did some exploratory digging,
but third exp excavation did not occuruntil nineteen twenty six, after mcjunkin's
death. Giant bisons of the typemadjunkins found had gone extinct at the end

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of the Last Ice Age. Proofof the human human killed established the antiquity
of North America's native cultural Madjunkin's discoveryof the folks and site changed New World
archaeology, as it showed that peoplehad inhabited North America since at least nine

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thousand BC e Some seven thousand yearsearlier than previously thought. So Mary,
we will have to look him up. Thank you for that information. And
that was just astonishingness. Couldn't getanybody there. But once he died,

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they came and you know, lookedat that site and discovered that was you
know, a lot more was there, right and these t ain't bones a
biases and our people bones but therewell, yeah, got to go marry
with Thank you so much for thehistory. Want to get these other callers
in. So doctor Hopperkin finished,thank you so much, Thank you so

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much. Hig w J. Hey, look you you know I got I
got your name brother. You beendoing the same. Hold yep, I'm
doing well things. Uh. Youknow we talk about the Afghan SIPs here.
They don't essaihate with us and wedon't have time to figure out why

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not. But what it is we'rethere looking at us like half brede.
They're real. They come from thereal country. Uh. In this country
we believe in killing dogs, catcheverything else before a breeze, So we
don't look at ourselves as uh,why the Africa don't look at this like
they are the real there's a realAfrican, but we're missing that in our

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skin, and we're missing in ourhair the medulla and the cortec layers.
That's means we're not light or we'renot they're not dark. Of what that
nappi hair was for that sign inAfrica, and that black skin was for
the sign. But when they wentto those cold climates and become white,
they didn't need that anymore. Doctoram I right? That's true? Uh

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huh. And but that that thosetwo layers I missed in our in our
tom I understanding the cortex and themedulla layers of the skin reason they're white,
and the same thing in their hair. They missed those different layers in
there. And that's when they werewhite, and like you were saying,
the country they were on the coldcontinent, they didn't need to be an
African anymore with black skin or nappihat. Right, And that's thank you,

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bye bye, thank you. WD. W J. Hold on,
I'll get the history list. I'mtrying to get these calls so I
can get doctor Harper so he canfinish w D. I a high caller.
Hello, Hi, you're on theair jack. Thank you. Uh
look what Hollywood? I called it? Holly weird head to Michael Jackson,
and they put the black man intothe nurse. It's always a negro some

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kind of way, you know.They tried to bleach him and make him
to a white audience to where hewould be made a black now white.
And he had made a statements orsomething about the Jews, and they cut
down his fonts and then he kindof died, Mysteers. I was reading
the book the other day, TheIron City of Moreau in Africa. They

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smelt and iron, they made someof everything, borders and fire. Now
you know, Rap Brown is stillthe political prisoner too. And I had
a book once you don't have aloan books, and I moved a couple
of times. It was called itwas written by a white guy. It
was called Iceman Inheritance. And wedid sight though, and then some newbie
in heads with Helless in somewhere inMexico giant is if they were worship and

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uh, all right, thank you, thank you, brother O maar w
D I a high caller. HeyBeverly, hey, small change, my
dollar, my dollar, And myfriend doctor Jarann Hoppers, how y'all doing
this happy New year? Going well? Small change? How you doing?
And I know it's the third month. But happy new year to vote for

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that's all right, that's all right. Happy new year to you, brother
Heaverly. And you're gonna have tokeep doctor Hop off of that. When
he come on, he give mekill. Okay, now we got to
keep in comment quick. I'll puthis sense up red quick. I mean,
the man just he's so, hegot a wealth of knowledge if people
just take it in, not ahand, but take it in and we

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can we can move forward because weset up and study this being on that
we ain't gonna move Look at us, like you said in Haiti, I'm
jumping around belly. Can't you runyour own country? Do you need people
standing over you with a whip?Can't you run your own country? Black
folks? You won't bring the manthere, but can you run your own

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country? Sit off Memphis City council? Can you run that council? Can
you run that council? City ofMemphis counsel people says, I'm sitting there
correctly, Dr Hopper, Sure you'resaying, okay, I'm what I'm angry
about. And Dr Harbus told me, if you want to and I can

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take it with gratitude. I'm sickof other people riding off of us,
and when they get up, theydon't even take the sale off and ask
us how we feel. And I'mtalking about them Palestine over there, they
head, No, they could bewelcome at this thing to speak at the
city council. That ain't the citycouncil place to fight for what's going on

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in PALESTI. If I'm wrong,tell me and show me where I'm wrong
there. I don't like that.I don't like it, and I'm ask
my black city council person, don'tbe offended just because somebody call you such
and such. You only get angrywhen they hit you with words of stone,

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with that devil. I know yougot to go appreciate y'all. But
my city council person, our peoplerun the council, and my to the
my new math. I didn't votefor him, but still he's my math.
Okay. I'm I'm just being honesty. Whether you voted for him or
not, he is our mayor.Small change, you right, that's right,

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Mayor Paul, y'all, this comesfrom a small change. If I
have to, I give you myname. Don't let people push you out
there, your young man with thiscrime thing. Listen to me, good,
mister math. And when these peoplestanding behind you have pushed you and
see things it's about to change,they gonna want to pull you back.

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I want you to remember that thiscity makes god the amount of money again,
if I'm ready, doctor Horbin Beth. People over crime. These people
talking crime, they don't want crimeto start. They don't want it.
Somebody need to get a report.I ain't that smart to see how much
money being taken in over crime.I can leat it out to you first,

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starting with the lawyers, the nextplace, starting with the court system,
the next place, starting with thepolice, arrested people, and it's
go on and on, the vendorsin the jail house. It's a lot
of money being made off of crime. Paper Quit talking about crime. Hell,
if you don't want to do nothingabout it, you have to stand
up and tell folk what's going onin your neighborhood. Don't say you don't

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know when he's come and asks youso, Brother Paul, mister Paul,
the mayor. Don't let people puta shoe out there. I heard you
had a summit with the crime people. The game folks. Don't let them
push you out that when they beginto see thing change, they gonna walk
away from you. Coach, you'recutting that pocket. But with that,
I'm out here, Beab and doctorHarper. All right, I thank you

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small change. We're gonna take abreak, come back and let doctor Harper
finish this day. Yeah or someor or get this other call doctor Harper.
Well, hold on, y'all,y'all talking today right here on w
d I A much appreciated, recognizedand inducted into the Tennessee Radio Hall of

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Fame. BEB Johnson w d IA Memphis h You're listening to the BEV

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Johnson Show. Here's Bev Johnson andour phone lines to brother Johnson. Hey,
brother Johnson. Hey, how youdoing, Beb? Doctor Harper doing
well in yourself? All right?Not too bad? Hey, hey doctor,
what I got for you is,did you say somebody said that the
Egyptians were white? Yes? Yes? Okay. Now my understanding, doctor

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Harper is that you know the greatspace that they have over there, right,
and you noticed that the nose ismissing, is that right, doctor
Happer? And who shot it off? They tell us, tell us,
and why did they shoot it out? That's exactly right. That's right,
because that's that's a distinct feature ofthe race, you understand. And then

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lets you see, they didn't wantyou to know that. So, like
you say, doctor Hopp, whoeversaid that the Egyptians were white? You
know, I feel the same waybottom as you do. Doctor. And
now another thing too, over there, the war with those Jews and everything.
Now I'm going back to the Bible. Okay, when you go through

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the New Old Testament, it saysit talks about the Hebrews. But then
when you get over to the NewTestament, Hebrews are no longer mentioned.
They're there. They used the wordJews. Now, what happened to the
Hebrews? Doctor? What happened tothat word? I have? I have
no idea. I really don't.I don't, okay. And see,
my understanding is that they trying toright themselves into eternal life. And when

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Hitler trying to kill all the Jews, the one when they had the Holocaust,
the walls that survived, a miraclewent over there and got those those
survivors and took them over there towhere they are at now. And those
Muslims told a miracle that we don'twant these folks over here. Is that
right, doctor, that's true myunderstanding. They didn't want it, but

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because because they were, they weregonna, they were, they brought the
Israelis that the jew excuse me fromfrom all over pretty much into into a
land which the Palestinian says was theirland, right. Yeah, and see
that's some holding land over there too. And the doctor supposed to be yes,
you know what I'm saying. Sothe war going on, you know.

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Uh, if they think there's somethingwhat's here to break y'at here in
a miracle? Hmm, watch outnow all right, Brother Johnson, thank
you, beb and doctor y'all havea gover you two. Bye bye,
all right, Doctor Harper. Okay. The thing of the book. The
title of the book is Blacks andScience Ancient and Modern, edited by doctor
Ivan Bean Certema. Uh. I'msure that normany will have a copy or

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two or more in the near future, if he doesn't have one some already.
Let me also move on and giveyou a poem by Listervelt Middleton,
and it starts off by saying,look around, you, black child,
your creation is everywhere. Though paintedsdistorted and given new names, they bear
your prints just the same. SoSharpen your eyes and tune up your ears

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so you know what you see,understand what you hear. You were the
first to write, the first toread. Humanity sprang from your black seeds.
For one hundred thousand years you werehere alone, And then the Caucasian
man was born behind the ice,inside the cold, a chill set in
this man's soul. Other minds havebeen credited with the things they learned from

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you, Kepler and Galileo two.So sharpen your eyes, tune up your
ears so you know what you see, understand what you hear. You made
the serpent the symbol of the healingart and African justice was the goddess my
aunt, who weighed herself against theAfrican soul, truth and justice blindfold.
The George Washington Monument is yours too, a copy of the African Tikanee,

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the symbol of black world's powers ofcreation, the black man's penis and divine
procreation. The king of Southern Egyptwore the white crown. Keep listening and
you'll catch your mouth when you hearthat. The central government in Egypt was
known as the White House. Sosharpen your eyes and tune up your ears,
so you know what you see,understand what you hear. Your God

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Osiris was restored to life long beforeBuddha and long before Christ. And today
what you call the Madonna and Childis but the first Black family worship long
denial. And when you feel thespirit of the Holy Ghost, you should
know it started Abidos, where God'sOsiris body was laid the Holy and the

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Africans prayed. So minute by minuteand hour by hour. As you lose
your history, three you lose yourpower. So sharpen your eyes and tune
up your ears so you know whatyou see and understand what you hear.
That's brother Lister Middleton, ancestor.I love it. Doctor Warren Harper are
psychologists, mental health specialists. RaceMan, Thank you, Doctor Harper.

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Look for into next week. I'llbe here all right. Thank you callers,
Thank you listeners for joining us thisday on the BEV Johnson Show.
We do, we really do appreciateyou. So until tomorrow, please be
saved. Cap a cool head,y'all, and don't let anyone still your

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