January 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Ith's the 38th Anniversary Show of The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio with Psychologist/Mental Health Specialist Dr. Warren Harper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Beth Justin Show, Bell, Chomping Time, Memphis Talkie, and All Away.
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How you go?
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You go so getting ready to go in time Just show.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Joe, Let's go Bet Justin?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
We you make your.
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Right here wrong tud.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I listen to want to say, you know Where's time?
The Belt Show, Who on the show like Let's go?
We like it too. We're rocking and rolling. Welcome in
to WDIA The Bev Johnson Show. I Am Bev. It
is a Friday, October fifth, twenty eighteen relationship Day where
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we talk relationship, sent mental health and help make yours healthy, happy, wholesome, wonderful,
and most of our loving between consenting adults. Our psychologist
is in the house, Doctor Warren Harper is here to
answer your questions. Before we go back to our phone lines,
let me say a big happy birthday to my guy, missus,
Stanley Campbell aka cam inten Z. Happy birthday Stanley today.
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I know you're having your all black party tomorrow. Brother.
I hate I can't be there, but have a good time,
celebrate your life. And on yesterday I missed this one.
The Reverend James L. Ward Senior Ward.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You know that last name.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
He's the daddy of Anita Ward Ring my bell and
miss Cassandra Ward, who is new my coworker here. Happy
birthday to Reverend James L. Ward. On yesterday he turned
eighty one years young. That's from me. Ain't that beautiful?
His children and his grandchildren, Happy birthday, Reverend Ward. Wish
you many many more in Stantley, Doctor Hopper, going back
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to our phone lines and folks want to talk with you.
Good afternoon to you, Elsie.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Hi, how you doing bad?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm doing well, Elsie, and you I'm good.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I'm good.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I'm on my way to Birmingham. Now I'm fulled over
so I can talk for a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, Well be careful in Birmingham. That's my place, Birmingham.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Oh, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. And I also I am
a cover of Hope Bruh graduate of nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh you gonna miss the reunion to mine?
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yes, I didn't know about it. My information changed. I
didn't get a chance to talk to anybody. But anyway,
I was going to Birmingham, so I wouldn't been able
to make it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay, well, we're gonna have a good time with them,
Tim Prize.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Well good good father, tell Scottie and uh.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Deal one and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
My goodness and bow and both gonna be there, deal one,
Scotty and boat of the Tim Prize.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Yes, yes, yes, and uh scott not Scottie.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
But Larry Dotts, Larry Dotson, yes.
Speaker 9 (03:18):
Right together. Well I will I remember, I.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Will tell him Elsie said hello, she had to go
to Birmingham.
Speaker 10 (03:25):
Yes, yes, there you go.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
But I was also one to ask doctor Harper if
he takes patience here in the city.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Uh no, I don't at this time. I may start,
I may start taking something in in the in the future,
but not at this time. I'm doing more contract work.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Okay, okay, alrighty, well, I well, I scratched that off.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
My Well, well, don't don't, don't give up. He says
he may do something in the future.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Okay, Well, I'll try to contact him because I have
I have a friend that works with me that he's
going through a little something. He's talking about committing suicide
and so forth, and so I try to, you know,
encourage him and tell him he got something to live for,
you know, And I know.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well else, you know, you know, we have some facilities
around and now and and I know you're driving in
and as take my break and doctor Harper talk to
calls out, getting my book because there's some places that
he can go and talk to. And doctor Harper can, yeah,
tell him some places, you know, just but yeah, keep on,
you know, and encouraging him. But I also, I know
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you're driving and continue to listen. We'll give you some
places that your friend can go in and get some
help and talk to somebody.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Okay, okay, where he is? I've been there? Okay, And
I you know, when I hear people say, well, how
can you talk about committing suicide taking your own life?
And so you can't. I mean, you can encourage people, yeah,
but you don't know where a person is mentally, you know,
I down, but I just tell him, let him know
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you got a lot to live or you know, you
got a lot to live for.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, yeah, but we we will definitely give out that information.
As you drive in, you're here, and you can call
me back again, and I'll give you some places where
he can go get some help.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Okay, I appreciate you. This BEV and break talking to
you and doctor Horbred.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, Miss Cobral, We'll have fun tomorrow for years. Okay,
bye bye bye bye w D I A C C.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Hey, Hey, c C.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
How you doing, Bell?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm doing well in yourself.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I'm good, Bell. I have something I need to announce
to the public. It's not pertaining to what your subject
or in Doctor Harper, I like.
Speaker 11 (05:46):
To say hello, hello.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Uh, but uh, there's a breakout at West Side School
that the public hasn't been notified about. It's called the feet,
throat and hand disease. And these children are out now
doing fall break and they're coming in contact with everybody
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in the community. And uh, I just want to let
every it's in Memphis West Side, okay, right, and and
there's an outbreak that s c S School did not
bother to tell us. And uh, I'm just it was you.
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I was just compelled to use your format to announce
it because a lot of it's very contagious and a
lot of people can get sick. Because these kids are
going to be out of school for.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
A week now yeah next week, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Well, they're starting this week. They're out at west Side. Okay,
they're running around the neighborhood and spreading this disease. And
the help Department, the school system CDC, none of them
have notified any of us of this breakout at this school.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, well, CEC, thank you for telling us.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I just want to say I was compelled to tell
people because they could be flood in the emergency room
not knowing what's wrong with them.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, all right, thank you for the nfl CC.
Speaker 11 (07:16):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Bell. You have a great weekend and a good day
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You two. Bye bye. W d I a prince of
the Shors.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Say my name, say my name?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Love doing well today? And yourself?
Speaker 9 (07:29):
I'm doing great. Let me say especially hello for your
guest doctor. How how are you doing?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Brother?
Speaker 9 (07:35):
It's okay, no complaints on this, There no complaints on this.
End a good afternoon for your college. And listen. Great topic,
by the way, and Beth, I enjoy listening to Keith,
especially when we hear men uh let the feeling, you know,
let their account and talk about situations and place in
their lives. And I thought, what keeps saying was the
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one because you know, as men, we're not too eager
to talk about our emotional fillings and sexually talk about
our emotional filling right on the air. So I want
to give him good kudos. And I don't know his
wife or anything's going to happen the latest. Happy birthday
to her and Reverend Ward. Do you think turns eighty
one years old?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yes, eighty one yesterday, Reverend James L. Ward, the father
of Anita Ward.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
That's a blessing right there was for the step Wow,
great street, Doctor Sucta. Can we can we touch on relationships?
I know we've been talking about it. Yes, sexual contacts,
but of course then going on and I have an
ideal with that, I chime in it on the very briefly.
I'm not gonna hold Brent Kavanaugh responsible for something that
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he's did at an age of seventeen years old. He's
not saying that it was right because there wasn't. But
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hold his If I
was was one of the senators owned on the I
would definitely vote him in. But as a seventeen year old,
I'm not going to sit up here and say this
ship can't be done this man for what he did. Now,
for a person in the twenty thirty and up like
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that who got a sound mind, yes I would hold
her responsible for what they did. But as a teenager,
I mean I did crazy thing. I can't speak for you,
but I could speak for me. I've probably done dumb
things when I was a kid, and you know, like
that's a young girl. I was crazy about it in
the third grade. I mean, Brenda, I want to say
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Brenda Hospital I can't remember remember, but my way of
shoring that I liked her. I would pull on her
hair and it were an aggravator all the time. So
if I was going before the board and she comes
out there, well, you know, Chris Charles pulled on my hair,
she thought on my pigtail when I was a kid.
I don't think I should be all responsible because that's
what we did at that moment, in that time of
our life.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Well you know, yeah, I think I think where we
differ is with the term responsible. I think I think
if if Judge cavin All had came out and said,
you know, I have behaved in a way that was improper,
and I may have I may have or I yes,
I did, uh try try to to to engage in
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intimacy with this particular person. See what what what bothers
me about about these situations is that I can give
you a pass when you've been honest. I don't believe
he's honest. That's my concern.
Speaker 11 (10:23):
I got.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Now, this is what I what I call this is
just a relationship, and it started with Bobby Shaw this morning,
and I would love to get to your take on it.
It's an anywhere written or even unwritten that a man
take care of everything that comes with a woman, as
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in a relationship, whether they're merit or not not knowing merit,
you're supposed to take care of each other. But I
don't know if you have heard that if you're seeing
someone or you're dating someone, that you should be able
to take care all that that woman's needs. She doesn't
take care of anything back in return. It's almost like
being a consumer and a producer, but she's consumer. And
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I never once agreed to that, that terminology that has
always put on Evan to be to give everything and
the woman gives nothing, a little to nothing.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I agree with you. I agree with you. Relationships, relationships
or people who are starting a relationship or just or
just being friends between male and female. Should never be
should never be so one sided where you're supposed to
take care of someone. That's what causes so much problems
in so called relationships. Now one person feels as if
they're giving too much and feeling and the other and
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that person feels exploited. So no, I think that the
idea that that you're supposed to do four people who
have not shown themselves as either as being worthy. You're right,
why would you do that?
Speaker 9 (11:55):
Well? In the time, that's what it seems like. Relationships
are based on being a young man. In my particulars,
I run across situations like this though a friend of mine,
and I think I'll speak for a lot of people
when I say that if you don't get their nail, hair,
sell phone, any kind of anything that comes with a
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price tag, taking care of you consiader of being less
of a man because I'm taking care of those things.
And I'll tell a woman in a heart beat, and
I'm not trying to be papacious by no means, but
I'll tell you that's a personal interest that you need
to take care of. Well, I'm the last guy that
I was with took care of and I'll tell him
to the Harvey, that's the guy you need to be with,
because that's not what I do.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I agree with that. I mean, you know, but look
look at if I if I'm dating and have a
relationship with someone, and uh and and I and if
it comes across my mind that there's something that that
they would like, and I feel as if I'm close
enough to that person that I want to do something
that that's going to make them happy, or if it's
Christmas or whatever their birthday, but I'll step out, I'll
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step out of my my usual stance. I'll I'll take
care of that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
But I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I think it's ridiculous to start talking about taking care
of people when you don't have any any real relationship
with them to begin with.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Exactly now, I understand and I understand that if you're
in this relationship, and you've been in this relationship for
not say for three years, so we we didn't got
to feel for each other, I know you're going to
cover me just as well as I'm going to cover you.
So that's that's if they've shown the type of intensity
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in the relationship I think it's all well and find
but just to come out on the front end and
say you need to do this or that and the others.
That's why a lot of people cannot they don't have
good relationships. And I say this especially to a woman.
And it's not to be like I said, indicative, but
never tell a man. In my opinion, doctor Hartlin from
r please stop me because I need to help just
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as well. I'm not saying that fact, but I would
tell a person that you got to accept everything that
comes with me.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
No, no, never, okay.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
I've been been to Caleb down John.
Speaker 11 (14:06):
All right, okay, but.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
That's basically what I wanted to act. Doctor. We we
have to mess up relationships going on in the day
and time. But a lot of people acting himselves, why
can't why can't they find someone decent? And because I'm
just here all right, thanks, Prince, okay, now to see
you the night there.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right then, Prince as well you too, Bye bye,
w d I A let me get this right here,
let me get this good afternoon, common man, Hey, Bob,
how you doing. I'm doing well, common man in yourself.
Speaker 11 (14:45):
All right, and I have to talk to you today.
But yeah, I'm gonna have to tell you that I'm
gonna have to get back with you and your PSC
next week. You and your partner in crime. Okay, you know, yeah?
You know what is right?
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Hello?
Speaker 11 (14:59):
Bird? How you doing? Yes? How you doing? Doctor?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Find how are you brother?
Speaker 11 (15:04):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
All right?
Speaker 11 (15:05):
Look, I want to talk to you about something that
I've been speaking about for the last few days or
make a week or so, but from now a professional
point of view with you. So we've been discussing, uh,
sexual assaults and stuff like that. Right, So I would
like for you to elaborate with me, if you will,
about how a person and I'm really speaking about a woman,
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but how a person could be affected by being sexually assaulted.
And also my question is can that affects sometimes become psychological?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Most most most definitely uh any type of trauma automatically
negatively impacts brain architecture. What does that mean? If it
affects how your brain functions, how it processes information? How
how how how much emotion you've expressed or expressed, whether
or not you're having a psychological disorder or some sort
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or what have you. People who are traumatized basically do
not live fulfilling whole, healthy lives because there are certain
parts of their life that they that they cannot even
deal with. Maybe maybe it negatively impacts their memory, if
it impacts their ability to concentrate it, it negatively impacts
their relationships. They may find themselves in such always looking
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for someone who's gonna hurt them, or always in situations
where they're being hurt and everybody else sees it, but
they can't seem to see it. They may go around
with all kinds of psychological problems. Yes, it negatively impacts
them and oftentimes the rest of their life.
Speaker 11 (16:34):
Okay, now as well, I'm thinking that these are reasons
that these victims sometimes be calm and carry on being vindictive, angry,
and things of that nature for a long periods of
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time and maybe sometimes for the duration of their lives.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
That's true. That's true, Yeah, because because of the trauma.
Uh right, and keep in mind, UH think, I think,
if if the truth be told, I would say that
probably three out of five women in the black community
have been in some way impacted by some sort of
sexual assault, whether that's being touched inappropriately uh somewhere in
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their body or or or in some way physically handled
in a way that I was sexual, if not rape,
I think at least three and five. And I think
if you were a single guy out there dating young
ladies like now, what you would find is that most
of them have been abused. Most of them.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Yeah, okay, So now when people speak about you know,
it's been so long, why don't they let it go?
Get over and things of that nature, These are reasons
why these victims can't let it go. That's because it don't.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Go away, it does not well, keep in mind, see
we try to use repression, which is one of the
major defense mechanisms. But see, you can only push down
those memories so far, because anything that you push down
rises up somewhere else. So although you may you may
push down the memory of you being raped, anytime some
man wants to kiss you, automatically you feel anxiety and
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you can't figure out where the anxiety is coming from
because you've repressed the rape. But you cannot you cannot
feel comfortable being intimate with your husband or your wife
because of the trauma that you've experienced. And also, this
stuff is contagious. I mean, it's multi generational. So if
you are if if this is a woman who has
been traumatized because someone raped her when she was far
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five or six years old, and she's gone through life
with all kind of negative interactions with men and other women,
and she's constantly being abused. When have you she has children?
What do you think they're How do you think they're
gonna be raised? Right, They're gonna be raised by a
mother who's psychologically impaired in many ways, and she's going
to treat them, probably in some in some instances overly harsh,
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some instances too permissive because of her experience, because of
her experiences.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Right, Okay, my last my last question for you, Doc Harba. Okay,
i'm a I'm I had a loved one that was
exactly assaulted, uh and it ended in a very tragic,
tragic manner. So I recognize that sometime when I think
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about the situation, I become angry, I become like belligerent
in the man, you know, I'd be like one revenge
on this person, real bad. And so I came to
the conclusion to realize or believe that it has an
impact on me as well. Although I wasn't a victim.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
That's right. So that's right. Now, keep in mind, one
of the main criteria or definitions of post traumatic stress
disorder is not only that something may have happened to you,
but it happens to someone that you're very close to,
and and and the thought of that causes you also
to suffer some trauma as well. This is multi generational stuff.
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It doesn't go away.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yeah, right, And that's why Bill, you know, like I say,
we've been talking about this for like a couple of weeks,
and you know, I always say, if you don't experience
certain things, you really don't know, You really don't you
know what I'm saying, have that impact, You don't have
that emotion and stuff like that. So I'm not saying
all these I'm not bringing it up to put anybody down,
but just to ask somebody to try to be aware
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of what people go through with these type of episodes
or situations is very traumatic, and these situations are not
to get over.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
And common man. Believe me, if you could interview one
hundred of those white males who were raped by the priests,
I bet you ninety nine percent of them will have
problems with alcoholism, uh huh okay, and they also probably
have a shortened life span too because they killed themselves
by inches with with drugs and alcohol or crazy living.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Uh. And you know what, doctor, you know, I guess
I'm gonna work with because I clearly didn't know that
it affects me being a sibling of a big but
I got to figure out some kind of way that
I don't know if I could just easily say overcome it,
but you have to try to do something about it
because it has an impact on you, definitely emotionally and
it could possibly become psysologically.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yes, yes, keno.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
So you know that, I just wanted to get that
out there, and I hope people try to understand. It's
not an easy thing.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You're welcome, you know what, And that that was a
good segue, Doctor Harper to my email I had for you,
and doctor Harper, please explain to what what to do
when you're a child of a victim that was abused
for many years. My mother was of a victim for
the majority of my childhood life and we're talking about
about domestic violence. I have been so mean to men
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and my relationships suffered because of this. Because of the
abuse I just asked, how do we as children get
over the fighting, the blood, the hurt, the crying, this
fearing of her face, the cussing, et cetera. Please tell
everyone is to get out and do how you do
it for the children? How do you how do you
cope with that? Doctor Harper?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Every one of those descriptive terms, the blood, the disfigure
in the face, all those terms come with emotion. Okay,
all those terms are connected to events that are still
right in the forefront of her mind when she's talking.
She can see this thing happening again. That's what post
traumatic stress is. It is It is all these horrific
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events being thrown back into your into your into your
mind's eye again and not being able to dismiss them.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And what does it do.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
It's caused her to be a person who is extremely angry,
and she squished people away. She saw what Mama went through,
and she probably said to herself, it'll never happen to me.
I will never let any man do anything that's going
to harm me. And as a result, it has negatively
impacted the relationships that she's had with males. Okay, So again,
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this this, this this problem is multi generational. You know
she has post traumatic stress disorder.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'm glad you said that, because when we hear that,
we always think only a veteran.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
No, believe me, No, Okay, if you witness an accident,
you're in an accident, you have post you can have
post traumatic stress disorder. But if you witness your mother,
the most important person in most lives of most people,
being beat to a pulp, over and over and demeaned
and kicked and stumped, spit on or whatever, believe me
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that that never goes away. It's indelibly marked in your
brain computer. And each time a man wants to get
close to you, you're gonna have anxiety attacks. Who could
have anxiety attacks, panic attacks, or rage. You're gonna do
something which is gonna push that person away. Now, what
does that do to you? That that keeps you from
being able to be loved? All right, but by the
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same token you're too afraid to get it gets clod
to someone. What does it do to your children? If
you're afraid, If you're afraid to get close to people,
and you loved or nurtured yourself because all you witness
was your mother being beat up, how are you gonna
raise your daughter. Now, you could raise her one way
whereas she can't go outside, she can never be around
men period. And anytime she even talks about it, boy,
you beat her, you hurt her, or you can you
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can raise your son to wear is he bet not
talk about girls? He bet not be you know, look
at look at any new women or what have you,
because he's gonna be just like that crazy person that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Hurt the mother.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
So you're gonna damage your daughter and your son behind
the damage that you experienced from watching your mother being
beat to a pope.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
What do you need to do?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
She obviously needs counseling, you know, the mother needs to
be in counseling if she's still alive, and I hope
she is. But this is a person that definitely needs
what we call trauma focused counseling. It's not just counseling,
trauma focused because she has that the brain has not
processed that those scenes and put them away somewhere in
her memory bank. Those scenes are still right there and
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they and they blind her from being able to see
any love out there in this world, from being able
to see anyone that could care for her, and it
blinds her from and keeps her from being able to
reach out and touch people and have people brought in
to her that she could that would comfort her as well.
So counseling is extremely important, but it needs to be
trauma focused counseling with people who are trauma focused therapists,
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not just anybody. Not anybody, but no, yeah, no, And
many people will say that they're trauma focused. My wife
and I have some credentials in trauma focused men. You know,
if you think about it, all psychologists have worked with
trauma before. Because all these people that come to see
us have been traumatized, depressed, people have experienced significant losses.
That's trauma. People who are who have anxiety, they saw
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things or witness things, or they experienced things, or they
were involved in things which causes their brain not to
be able to relax anymore. That's trauma. Paranoia, something that's
happened to them, that's trauma. So if you think about it,
most mental illness has trauma related. So therefore you have
to have someone that can take you back through the
trauma and help your brain to be able to accept
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it for what it was and also say that that's
the past. Now you have to deal with the emotion
of it, the thought of it, the feeling that surrounds it,
the smell of the environment that you were in where
the trauma happened. That's when you hear about that. Many
of these ladies will still talk about They cannot remember
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the actual molestation, they cannot remember it clearly, but they
can remember the room because see, when they were being
sodomized or raped, their brain shifted away from being hurt,
from the body being hurt, and the brain kind of
what we call dissociates. She dissociates and you kind of
look away when you're being traumatized. Think about somebody coming
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upon on you with a knife and chopping on your arm.
I mean, at some point your brain cannot tolerate, it
cannot tolerate seeing that. So your brain will literally shift
your mental status to something else where. You're going to
be thinking about the color of the room and color
of the walls in the room, and all of a sudden,
the armor is gone. Yeah, and you canna step back
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out of it. Trauma does that, Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
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w DA.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
You're listening to the Queen of Talk on w d
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Bev Johnson.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And we are here with doctor Warren Harper. Back to
our phone lines to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Hi, Janie, Yes, yes, yes, Hi, Hi Beverly. Hi, Doctor Hopper.
I'm doing great, So that's a Hopper. I have the
utmost respect for you. I have been listening to you
for quite a while on the Bev Johnson's boat and
I'm just impressed with your I'm just impressed with the
(29:29):
things that you say. You know, how you clinically diagnos things.
I'm impressed. And so having said that, I want to
I want to make mention of something. W D I
ain't has a caller that comes and calls on the radio.
He calls quite frequently, and I get offended, you know,
(29:49):
with his conversation because he talks. He actually talks down
to black people, he talks down to Democrats, and and
he suggests that you know, he's a minister, he's a
man of the close, and he knows the Bible from
agency is what he likes to get them pression of.
And but what he's promoting is he's promoting Donald Trump.
(30:12):
You know, he's trying to tell people that Donald Trump
was sent by God. And you know, and he is
Donald Trump, you know, let him tell him. Donald Trump
is just a perfect man. But yet and still he
and he's the thing is he loves to come on
and talk about our past president, which is Barack President Barack.
(30:34):
And I don't see Barack as a perfect person. I
don't see any man as being perfect. I know who's perfect, Okay,
But you know, I'm not sure who hates him the most,
Donald Trump, who hates President Barack's the most? Donald Trump?
Or this guy where's his name is?
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Dorothy?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And every point that he makes, it's got to be
something negative about President Obama, which is not even in office.
And I mean, I can't understand it because unless you're
trying to brainwash people or you're getting paid to come
on the air because this is a black radio station
to say all of his garbage. And you know, I'm
a person that I know it's.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
A lot of people that may know the Bible that.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
That does not mean to me that you are what
you say you are right. And I'm not impressed with
his character. I have heard him. I have heard him
threatened people over the air.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I've heard him stay that he went in to pull
u pit and beat some beat, jumped on some ministers
because somebody cross him or something. And then I've also
heard him say that ministers come to him because you know,
as if he knows the direction to go and he
knows the teaching and everything. But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
And I'm gonna tell you why I don't like it,
because a lot of people listen to the radio and
they are looking for a sense of direction, and a
lot of people aren't. Often sometimes people use their education,
and sometimes they try to control people with the way
they're thinking and stuff, and they put a and they
try to implant their way of thinking, you know, on people.
And I just you know, and that I don't like
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about this guy, and you know, and he makes he
makes the point of doing it every day, and I
just I just wonder why a person would do that,
you know, I met, They're getting paid. They got to
have something in it for them to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Well, well, keep in mind, we're all we're all sent
here by God. So that does not give Donald Trump
any kind of special consideration, particularly to a person who is,
as I said before, he is character logically impaired. He's
unfit for the office. He he is not someone that
loves that loves people in general. He is a billionaire,
(32:43):
and there's questions about that as as well. He's also
someone that is going to at some point gonna come
down on black folks because in his mind, if you're
not him, then you're not important. Now, the fact is
that we have some people out here who basically live
and die for Donald Trump. No, I don't think they're
getting paid. I just think they're delusional. And when I
say that, you know, I'm not saying that they're mentally ill,
(33:05):
but they have a fixed false belief. The bottom line
is that anytime you listen, whether it's on the conservative
or the liberal channels, where they pointing out here this
this person's pathological lying and the other behaviors that he's
done to demean women, as well as his characterizations of
Latin American or Mexican people as being criminals and rapists and.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
What have you.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Anybody that talks that way is psychologically impaired. So if
you choose to buy into that kind of a person,
that says something about your mental status and sad. It's
a sad reality. When you start buying into someone who
is obviously obviously psychologically impaired, and you believe that that
person is is a god or a saint, then you
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don't sound like you're you're representing God. It sounds like
you're representing the other end.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I completely agree in my sentiments exactly. I just you know,
I just don't you know, and I see you trying
to convince people that he is the perfect person for us,
and we need to buy into Donald Trump. But at
the same time, you ignore all the things that he
says right, and you say you are san you say
you're a man of God. You come on a radio
(34:17):
and you're quoting these scriptions, and you actually want people
to believe in you, and it's I think I find
it very insulting, you know, you know it's hurtful.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I think you're psychologically saying because on the one hand,
you're able to say Barack Obama was imperfect President Barack
Obama wasn't perfect, And I'm perfectly saying too, because I
don't see any person that's perfect either. But you know,
if you didn't say that, if all you were to
say was that the president Barack Obama was the best
thing since sliced bread, and and everything he did was
(34:50):
was right, et cetera, then that means something's wrong with
your reality testing, because everything, okay, that's right.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
As much as I was happy to have a black
president me too in office, I still know venter than that,
you know, And I wouldn't even trying to convince anybody
else of that, you know, But you know, I just
wanted to share that with you because.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
We're glad you shared it. I'm so glad you shared it.
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Jane.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
All right, yea, I have a good one you too.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Bye bye, Hi, Vicky.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
What's Beverly?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You got it? Vicky?
Speaker 5 (35:24):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (35:25):
I'm great, Beverly. I want to tell that lady Dorsey
is not quoting scriptures. Read them. He's not quoting scriptures.
That's Dorset speech. He's not quoting scripture. That stuff is
not in the battle. It may be a part of it,
it may be some of it, it may be in
the middle, but he's not quoting scriptures.
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Ma'am.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
It's not Okay, good, Okay. Then I just wanted to
put that out there. He had like he's so godly,
but he's not quoting scriptures. He got Dorsey speed want.
I just wanted to talk about, you know, my tempted rate. Okay,
And that's why when I called in, you know a
lot of time I seemed so hard toward the people.
I'm so glad they're doing the uh testing. They gonna
(36:02):
finish the testing on the rape kits. I'm so I
want them to. I want them to, cause i'm'a tell
you what happened to me, I was like in my twenties,
in my late twenties and leaving a friend a man
house to live next door to my sister, and so
I didn't have a wrong way home. I lived quite
away from where my sister lived. So okay, s oh well,
(36:24):
I'll take you home. We'll take you home. He had
his friend who had he had to take him home too.
So his friend lived like in where where pe v
uh not uh where. I don't know the name of
those apartments on Elvis Presley, but they done close down
and now or they may ue have refurbished him or whatever.
Not too far from a cemetery. Do you know. After
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he dropped his friend home off, he took me to
the cemetery. Mm mm, I was so scared, cause all
my life I have been afraid of the dog beb
I sleep right now with like something I have always
been afraid to dark. He took me to the cemetery.
I was so scared, but I cried and cried and
begged him. I told him I do anything he wanted
(37:09):
me to take to do. But there was like one
of those little cheap hotels on Elvis Presley, and that's
where he went. He went to check in. When he
went to check in, I jumped out of the car
and I ran h and I went to Elvis Presley Boulevard.
I got this older man. I opened it. I snatched
his door open at the lights, and I asked him
(37:29):
could he take me home? I was so scared because
I didn't want to be rape cluse. You know what. Yeah,
age was out then age had just came. I want age,
you die from age. I didn't want her peas. I
didn't want that. I was so scared, so I just
couldn't imagine. I just couldn't do it. So I ran.
This man took me home. He wanted to knock on
the door and talk to my mama. Yeah, but no,
(37:52):
I made an excuse for that. But I'm just letting
you know. It's all kind of people and me and
in the world, people who you never would think. And
now they got all these rape kids open. And I'm
sure that guy who tried me, he probably tried it
on many and many women.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Probably so.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
And then on on on the show on Talent Show,
this guy was calling in saying talking about how funny
it was and how they tried to they rape women
and stuff. Back then. I pray to God his kid
is in there truly, because he thought it was funny.
So I just wanted to just wanted to say that
the you know, I found so hard about yeah this cause,
(38:32):
but I just can't. I'm just saying, there are men
that are rapists and would make them like that. Doctor Becauld,
you tell us why men do that and why they
liked it?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Well, the simple answer is that men do it because
they can get away with it. The men do it
because the courts did not want to prosecute men for
doing it. Men do it because women were not believed
when they said they were raped. So men have been
rewarded for stepping over the bounds or stepping over the
boundary when it comes to what is sexually appropriate and
sexually not appropriate. And some men are psychologically damaged to
(39:04):
the point whereas uh, they know right from wrong. But
as far as they're concerned, what his right is to
be able to get their needs met and be down
with anybody else?
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Right?
Speaker 10 (39:13):
Well, you know, doctor Howper, I think that's a modern
day thing. I think these men, I just can't understand
why you want to have sixed with somebody who don't
want to be have sicked with you.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Well, you know, it's it's interesting you when you mentioned that,
because I'm still trying to figure out how how how
psychologically screwed up Bill Cosby is where he wants he
wants to have drugged women. Either either whatever he was
were using was so small that.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
He was afraid of it, I'm afraid of him.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Or or something else was wrong. But anyway, anyway, he
obviously was a sexual predator.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
In sexually.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
That's what it is, That's what it boiled down through.
These predators in the world take advantage of women. Thank you, Bicky,
Thank you, Beverly, Bye.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Bye bye bye. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
And hey, how are you all doing the better?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Face doing wonderful bird legs and you.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
I'm doing great. Thank you. Hello, doctor Harper, hell I
love it when you're home.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
I won't be but a minute. I was looking at
the tri State Defender and it has a person on
the front of it, Reverend Manuel Donnis. I was wondering
whether that Dorset because he's really into trauma the man
something okay, okay, Well, what I really called for is
I had a friend of mine, not not very very
long ago, shared something with me.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
He's in his sixties.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
He was raped molested when he was a childish a man,
and and and you were speaking of trauma. And he
was on the phone with me traveling out of state,
and this man had to pull over because he finally
got that out of his system.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
He cried, He cried.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
He probably cried.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
From one state to another as he was traveling, because
he opened up and told me that. And I believe
that it's more men than him, or if they would
just let it out. Yes, he cared enough to share
with me what happened to him. He's not gay, he's
a man man. He's been mistreated by women, and today
he said he don't mind being mistreated by women. I
(41:14):
was wondering if that was something to go along with
that rate that he dealt with as a man. I'm
going to hang up. I know you're getting ready to go,
but you know, I believe it's a lot of men
right here that call this radio station that were probably
abused as boys as well. I'm gone, y'all.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You two burn legs. Thank you? Yeah, okay, no, bye bye,
just said doctor Harper. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
I think that's exactly right. I think oftentimes when you
have men who have been sexually abused or or or
touched or what have you, that they also have a
lot of psychological difficulties as well. But see again, men
hide theirs with alcohol and drugs, so you never know
and you never know how fraid they are of being
intimate with women because every time that they're they're with
(41:54):
the women, they're drinking, and alcohol tends to mask all
their fears and anxieties. But it also means that that
when they are intimate with women, it's usually probably very
rough or gruff, or it takes about two seconds and
they've they've enjoyed themselves and they move on. But these
men have a lot of psychological problems as well.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Doctor Harvard couldn't show today last words, Oh good show today,
last words you'd like to say to our listeners this day.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I think the Me Too movement is all about women
standing up for themselves and not letting men push them
down anymore. I think real black men are men who who,
like Steve loves loves their wife or loves their lady
and respects them to the point where they would not
let any other man talk against them, and they would
not pull up, pull up their hand to harm them
as well. I think if we're going to be psychologically
(42:40):
healthy parents and grandparents, then we have to make sure
that the children that we raise are not sitting around
like slugs and doing nothing with their life. Steve pointed out,
we don't need grown people sitting around the house, get
having babies and not doing a damn thing except having
more babies and trying to mooch off of parents. I
think we're time for all of us to grow up.
And I'm the first one to say I'm growing up still.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
All right, Doctor Warren Harper Psychologists, thank you brother, our
house doctor in the house, thank you so much good
information today. Want to remind you don't forget. We will
be out tonight for Domestic Violence Awareness Month. We will
be at the Paradise Entertainment Center. My girl will be
in the house. Miss Sheba Pot's right and oh handsome
pyt Gerald Richardson. So come on out and support the
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brothers of Omegasci five fraternity. They're putting this on because
they want to bring awareness to domestic violence and also
the money will be going to the Hope Center at
Grace And see you tomorrow night. All the covers the
nineteen sixty eight graduating class of Carver High School celebrating
fifty years tomorrow at Case Management right there at Democratic Brooks.
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The Tim Pries, who are graduates of the class of
nineteen sixty eight, will be performing and be hosted by
BEB Johnson. It's gonna be a good weekend. Be safe.
I know we got the wine on the river, we
got info fast, but be safe out there, all right.
Thank you carlingers and listeners for joining us this day
on the Bed Johnson Show. We do, we really do
appreciate you. So until tomorrow, please be safe. Keep a
(44:13):
cool head, y'all. Don't let anyone steal your joy. Until tomorrow.
I'm BB Johnson, and y'all keep the faith. Mark Baker,
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I listen to want to say, you know Where's time?
The Belt Show, Who on the show like Let's go?
We like it too. We're rocking and rolling. Welcome in
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is a Friday, October fifth, twenty eighteen relationship Day where
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we talk relationship, sent mental health and help make yours healthy, happy, wholesome, wonderful,
and most of our loving between consenting adults. Our psychologist
is in the house, Doctor Warren Harper is here to
answer your questions. Before we go back to our phone lines,
let me say a big happy birthday to my guy, missus,
Stanley Campbell aka cam inten Z. Happy birthday Stanley today.
(01:38):
I know you're having your all black party tomorrow. Brother.
I hate I can't be there, but have a good time,
celebrate your life. And on yesterday I missed this one.
The Reverend James L. Ward Senior Ward.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You know that last name.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
He's the daddy of Anita Ward Ring my bell and
miss Cassandra Ward, who is new my coworker here. Happy
birthday to Reverend James L. Ward. On yesterday he turned
eighty one years young. That's from me. Ain't that beautiful?
His children and his grandchildren, Happy birthday, Reverend Ward. Wish
you many many more in Stantley, Doctor Hopper, going back
(02:13):
to our phone lines and folks want to talk with you.
Good afternoon to you, Elsie.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Hi, how you doing bad?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm doing well, Elsie, and you I'm good.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I'm good.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I'm on my way to Birmingham. Now I'm fulled over
so I can talk for a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, Well be careful in Birmingham. That's my place, Birmingham.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Oh, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. And I also I am
a cover of Hope Bruh graduate of nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh you gonna miss the reunion to mine?
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yes, I didn't know about it. My information changed. I
didn't get a chance to talk to anybody. But anyway,
I was going to Birmingham, so I wouldn't been able
to make it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay, well, we're gonna have a good time with them,
Tim Prize.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Well good good father, tell Scottie and uh.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Deal one and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
My goodness and bow and both gonna be there, deal one,
Scotty and boat of the Tim Prize.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Yes, yes, yes, and uh scott not Scottie.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
But Larry Dotts, Larry Dotson, yes.
Speaker 9 (03:18):
Right together. Well I will I remember, I.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Will tell him Elsie said hello, she had to go
to Birmingham.
Speaker 10 (03:25):
Yes, yes, there you go.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
But I was also one to ask doctor Harper if
he takes patience here in the city.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Uh no, I don't at this time. I may start,
I may start taking something in in the in the future,
but not at this time. I'm doing more contract work.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Okay, okay, alrighty, well, I well, I scratched that off.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
My Well, well, don't don't, don't give up. He says
he may do something in the future.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Okay, Well, I'll try to contact him because I have
I have a friend that works with me that he's
going through a little something. He's talking about committing suicide
and so forth, and so I try to, you know,
encourage him and tell him he got something to live for,
you know, And I know.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well else, you know, you know, we have some facilities
around and now and and I know you're driving in
and as take my break and doctor Harper talk to
calls out, getting my book because there's some places that
he can go and talk to. And doctor Harper can, yeah,
tell him some places, you know, just but yeah, keep on,
you know, and encouraging him. But I also, I know
(04:33):
you're driving and continue to listen. We'll give you some
places that your friend can go in and get some
help and talk to somebody.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Okay, okay, where he is? I've been there? Okay, And
I you know, when I hear people say, well, how
can you talk about committing suicide taking your own life?
And so you can't. I mean, you can encourage people, yeah,
but you don't know where a person is mentally, you know,
I down, but I just tell him, let him know
(05:02):
you got a lot to live or you know, you
got a lot to live for.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, yeah, but we we will definitely give out that information.
As you drive in, you're here, and you can call
me back again, and I'll give you some places where
he can go get some help.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Okay, I appreciate you. This BEV and break talking to
you and doctor Horbred.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, Miss Cobral, We'll have fun tomorrow for years. Okay,
bye bye bye bye w D I A C C.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Hey, Hey, c C.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
How you doing, Bell?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm doing well in yourself.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I'm good, Bell. I have something I need to announce
to the public. It's not pertaining to what your subject
or in Doctor Harper, I like.
Speaker 11 (05:46):
To say hello, hello.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Uh, but uh, there's a breakout at West Side School
that the public hasn't been notified about. It's called the feet,
throat and hand disease. And these children are out now
doing fall break and they're coming in contact with everybody
(06:08):
in the community. And uh, I just want to let
every it's in Memphis West Side, okay, right, and and
there's an outbreak that s c S School did not
bother to tell us. And uh, I'm just it was you.
(06:29):
I was just compelled to use your format to announce
it because a lot of it's very contagious and a
lot of people can get sick. Because these kids are
going to be out of school for.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
A week now yeah next week, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Well, they're starting this week. They're out at west Side. Okay,
they're running around the neighborhood and spreading this disease. And
the help Department, the school system CDC, none of them
have notified any of us of this breakout at this school.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, well, CEC, thank you for telling us.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I just want to say I was compelled to tell
people because they could be flood in the emergency room
not knowing what's wrong with them.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, all right, thank you for the nfl CC.
Speaker 11 (07:16):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Bell. You have a great weekend and a good day
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You two. Bye bye. W d I a prince of
the Shors.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Say my name, say my name?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Love doing well today? And yourself?
Speaker 9 (07:29):
I'm doing great. Let me say especially hello for your
guest doctor. How how are you doing?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Brother?
Speaker 9 (07:35):
It's okay, no complaints on this, There no complaints on this.
End a good afternoon for your college. And listen. Great topic,
by the way, and Beth, I enjoy listening to Keith,
especially when we hear men uh let the feeling, you know,
let their account and talk about situations and place in
their lives. And I thought, what keeps saying was the
(07:56):
one because you know, as men, we're not too eager
to talk about our emotional fillings and sexually talk about
our emotional filling right on the air. So I want
to give him good kudos. And I don't know his
wife or anything's going to happen the latest. Happy birthday
to her and Reverend Ward. Do you think turns eighty
one years old?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yes, eighty one yesterday, Reverend James L. Ward, the father
of Anita Ward.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
That's a blessing right there was for the step Wow,
great street, Doctor Sucta. Can we can we touch on relationships?
I know we've been talking about it. Yes, sexual contacts,
but of course then going on and I have an
ideal with that, I chime in it on the very briefly.
I'm not gonna hold Brent Kavanaugh responsible for something that
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he's did at an age of seventeen years old. He's
not saying that it was right because there wasn't. But
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hold his If I
was was one of the senators owned on the I
would definitely vote him in. But as a seventeen year old,
I'm not going to sit up here and say this
ship can't be done this man for what he did. Now,
for a person in the twenty thirty and up like
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that who got a sound mind, yes I would hold
her responsible for what they did. But as a teenager,
I mean I did crazy thing. I can't speak for you,
but I could speak for me. I've probably done dumb
things when I was a kid, and you know, like
that's a young girl. I was crazy about it in
the third grade. I mean, Brenda, I want to say
(09:32):
Brenda Hospital I can't remember remember, but my way of
shoring that I liked her. I would pull on her
hair and it were an aggravator all the time. So
if I was going before the board and she comes
out there, well, you know, Chris Charles pulled on my hair,
she thought on my pigtail when I was a kid.
I don't think I should be all responsible because that's
what we did at that moment, in that time of
our life.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Well you know, yeah, I think I think where we
differ is with the term responsible. I think I think
if if Judge cavin All had came out and said,
you know, I have behaved in a way that was improper,
and I may have I may have or I yes,
I did, uh try try to to to engage in
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intimacy with this particular person. See what what what bothers
me about about these situations is that I can give
you a pass when you've been honest. I don't believe
he's honest. That's my concern.
Speaker 11 (10:23):
I got.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Now, this is what I what I call this is
just a relationship, and it started with Bobby Shaw this morning,
and I would love to get to your take on it.
It's an anywhere written or even unwritten that a man
take care of everything that comes with a woman, as
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in a relationship, whether they're merit or not not knowing merit,
you're supposed to take care of each other. But I
don't know if you have heard that if you're seeing
someone or you're dating someone, that you should be able
to take care all that that woman's needs. She doesn't
take care of anything back in return. It's almost like
being a consumer and a producer, but she's consumer. And
(11:08):
I never once agreed to that, that terminology that has
always put on Evan to be to give everything and
the woman gives nothing, a little to nothing.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I agree with you. I agree with you. Relationships, relationships
or people who are starting a relationship or just or
just being friends between male and female. Should never be
should never be so one sided where you're supposed to
take care of someone. That's what causes so much problems
in so called relationships. Now one person feels as if
they're giving too much and feeling and the other and
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that person feels exploited. So no, I think that the
idea that that you're supposed to do four people who
have not shown themselves as either as being worthy. You're right,
why would you do that?
Speaker 9 (11:55):
Well? In the time, that's what it seems like. Relationships
are based on being a young man. In my particulars,
I run across situations like this though a friend of mine,
and I think I'll speak for a lot of people
when I say that if you don't get their nail, hair,
sell phone, any kind of anything that comes with a
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price tag, taking care of you consiader of being less
of a man because I'm taking care of those things.
And I'll tell a woman in a heart beat, and
I'm not trying to be papacious by no means, but
I'll tell you that's a personal interest that you need
to take care of. Well, I'm the last guy that
I was with took care of and I'll tell him
to the Harvey, that's the guy you need to be with,
because that's not what I do.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I agree with that. I mean, you know, but look
look at if I if I'm dating and have a
relationship with someone, and uh and and I and if
it comes across my mind that there's something that that
they would like, and I feel as if I'm close
enough to that person that I want to do something
that that's going to make them happy, or if it's
Christmas or whatever their birthday, but I'll step out, I'll
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step out of my my usual stance. I'll I'll take
care of that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
But I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I think it's ridiculous to start talking about taking care
of people when you don't have any any real relationship
with them to begin with.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Exactly now, I understand and I understand that if you're
in this relationship, and you've been in this relationship for
not say for three years, so we we didn't got
to feel for each other, I know you're going to
cover me just as well as I'm going to cover you.
So that's that's if they've shown the type of intensity
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in the relationship I think it's all well and find
but just to come out on the front end and
say you need to do this or that and the others.
That's why a lot of people cannot they don't have
good relationships. And I say this especially to a woman.
And it's not to be like I said, indicative, but
never tell a man. In my opinion, doctor Hartlin from
r please stop me because I need to help just
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as well. I'm not saying that fact, but I would
tell a person that you got to accept everything that
comes with me.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
No, no, never, okay.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
I've been been to Caleb down John.
Speaker 11 (14:06):
All right, okay, but.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
That's basically what I wanted to act. Doctor. We we
have to mess up relationships going on in the day
and time. But a lot of people acting himselves, why
can't why can't they find someone decent? And because I'm
just here all right, thanks, Prince, okay, now to see
you the night there.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right then, Prince as well you too, Bye bye,
w d I A let me get this right here,
let me get this good afternoon, common man, Hey, Bob,
how you doing. I'm doing well, common man in yourself.
Speaker 11 (14:45):
All right, and I have to talk to you today.
But yeah, I'm gonna have to tell you that I'm
gonna have to get back with you and your PSC
next week. You and your partner in crime. Okay, you know, yeah?
You know what is right?
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Hello?
Speaker 11 (14:59):
Bird? How you doing? Yes? How you doing? Doctor?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Find how are you brother?
Speaker 11 (15:04):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
All right?
Speaker 11 (15:05):
Look, I want to talk to you about something that
I've been speaking about for the last few days or
make a week or so, but from now a professional
point of view with you. So we've been discussing, uh,
sexual assaults and stuff like that. Right, So I would
like for you to elaborate with me, if you will,
about how a person and I'm really speaking about a woman,
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but how a person could be affected by being sexually assaulted.
And also my question is can that affects sometimes become psychological?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Most most most definitely uh any type of trauma automatically
negatively impacts brain architecture. What does that mean? If it
affects how your brain functions, how it processes information? How
how how how much emotion you've expressed or expressed, whether
or not you're having a psychological disorder or some sort
(15:58):
or what have you. People who are traumatized basically do
not live fulfilling whole, healthy lives because there are certain
parts of their life that they that they cannot even
deal with. Maybe maybe it negatively impacts their memory, if
it impacts their ability to concentrate it, it negatively impacts
their relationships. They may find themselves in such always looking
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for someone who's gonna hurt them, or always in situations
where they're being hurt and everybody else sees it, but
they can't seem to see it. They may go around
with all kinds of psychological problems. Yes, it negatively impacts
them and oftentimes the rest of their life.
Speaker 11 (16:34):
Okay, now as well, I'm thinking that these are reasons
that these victims sometimes be calm and carry on being vindictive, angry,
and things of that nature for a long periods of
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time and maybe sometimes for the duration of their lives.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
That's true. That's true, Yeah, because because of the trauma.
Uh right, and keep in mind, UH think, I think,
if if the truth be told, I would say that
probably three out of five women in the black community
have been in some way impacted by some sort of
sexual assault, whether that's being touched inappropriately uh somewhere in
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their body or or or in some way physically handled
in a way that I was sexual, if not rape,
I think at least three and five. And I think
if you were a single guy out there dating young
ladies like now, what you would find is that most
of them have been abused. Most of them.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Yeah, okay, So now when people speak about you know,
it's been so long, why don't they let it go?
Get over and things of that nature, These are reasons
why these victims can't let it go. That's because it don't.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Go away, it does not well, keep in mind, see
we try to use repression, which is one of the
major defense mechanisms. But see, you can only push down
those memories so far, because anything that you push down
rises up somewhere else. So although you may you may
push down the memory of you being raped, anytime some
man wants to kiss you, automatically you feel anxiety and
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you can't figure out where the anxiety is coming from
because you've repressed the rape. But you cannot you cannot
feel comfortable being intimate with your husband or your wife
because of the trauma that you've experienced. And also, this
stuff is contagious. I mean, it's multi generational. So if
you are if if this is a woman who has
been traumatized because someone raped her when she was far
(18:33):
five or six years old, and she's gone through life
with all kind of negative interactions with men and other women,
and she's constantly being abused. When have you she has children?
What do you think they're How do you think they're
gonna be raised? Right, They're gonna be raised by a
mother who's psychologically impaired in many ways, and she's going
to treat them, probably in some in some instances overly harsh,
(18:55):
some instances too permissive because of her experience, because of
her experiences.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Right, Okay, my last my last question for you, Doc Harba. Okay,
i'm a I'm I had a loved one that was
exactly assaulted, uh and it ended in a very tragic,
tragic manner. So I recognize that sometime when I think
(19:21):
about the situation, I become angry, I become like belligerent
in the man, you know, I'd be like one revenge
on this person, real bad. And so I came to
the conclusion to realize or believe that it has an
impact on me as well. Although I wasn't a victim.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
That's right. So that's right. Now, keep in mind, one
of the main criteria or definitions of post traumatic stress
disorder is not only that something may have happened to you,
but it happens to someone that you're very close to,
and and and the thought of that causes you also
to suffer some trauma as well. This is multi generational stuff.
(20:00):
It doesn't go away.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yeah, right, And that's why Bill, you know, like I say,
we've been talking about this for like a couple of weeks,
and you know, I always say, if you don't experience
certain things, you really don't know, You really don't you
know what I'm saying, have that impact, You don't have
that emotion and stuff like that. So I'm not saying
all these I'm not bringing it up to put anybody down,
but just to ask somebody to try to be aware
(20:23):
of what people go through with these type of episodes
or situations is very traumatic, and these situations are not
to get over.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
And common man. Believe me, if you could interview one
hundred of those white males who were raped by the priests,
I bet you ninety nine percent of them will have
problems with alcoholism, uh huh okay, and they also probably
have a shortened life span too because they killed themselves
by inches with with drugs and alcohol or crazy living.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Uh. And you know what, doctor, you know, I guess
I'm gonna work with because I clearly didn't know that
it affects me being a sibling of a big but
I got to figure out some kind of way that
I don't know if I could just easily say overcome it,
but you have to try to do something about it
because it has an impact on you, definitely emotionally and
it could possibly become psysologically.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yes, yes, keno.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
So you know that, I just wanted to get that
out there, and I hope people try to understand. It's
not an easy thing.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You're welcome, you know what, And that that was a
good segue, Doctor Harper to my email I had for you,
and doctor Harper, please explain to what what to do
when you're a child of a victim that was abused
for many years. My mother was of a victim for
the majority of my childhood life and we're talking about
about domestic violence. I have been so mean to men
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and my relationships suffered because of this. Because of the
abuse I just asked, how do we as children get
over the fighting, the blood, the hurt, the crying, this
fearing of her face, the cussing, et cetera. Please tell
everyone is to get out and do how you do
it for the children? How do you how do you
cope with that? Doctor Harper?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Every one of those descriptive terms, the blood, the disfigure
in the face, all those terms come with emotion. Okay,
all those terms are connected to events that are still
right in the forefront of her mind when she's talking.
She can see this thing happening again. That's what post
traumatic stress is. It is It is all these horrific
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events being thrown back into your into your into your
mind's eye again and not being able to dismiss them.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And what does it do.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
It's caused her to be a person who is extremely angry,
and she squished people away. She saw what Mama went through,
and she probably said to herself, it'll never happen to me.
I will never let any man do anything that's going
to harm me. And as a result, it has negatively
impacted the relationships that she's had with males. Okay, So again,
(22:58):
this this, this this problem is multi generational. You know
she has post traumatic stress disorder.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'm glad you said that, because when we hear that,
we always think only a veteran.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
No, believe me, No, Okay, if you witness an accident,
you're in an accident, you have post you can have
post traumatic stress disorder. But if you witness your mother,
the most important person in most lives of most people,
being beat to a pulp, over and over and demeaned
and kicked and stumped, spit on or whatever, believe me
(23:29):
that that never goes away. It's indelibly marked in your
brain computer. And each time a man wants to get
close to you, you're gonna have anxiety attacks. Who could
have anxiety attacks, panic attacks, or rage. You're gonna do
something which is gonna push that person away. Now, what
does that do to you? That that keeps you from
being able to be loved? All right, but by the
(23:51):
same token you're too afraid to get it gets clod
to someone. What does it do to your children? If
you're afraid, If you're afraid to get close to people,
and you loved or nurtured yourself because all you witness
was your mother being beat up, how are you gonna
raise your daughter. Now, you could raise her one way
whereas she can't go outside, she can never be around
men period. And anytime she even talks about it, boy,
you beat her, you hurt her, or you can you
(24:13):
can raise your son to wear is he bet not
talk about girls? He bet not be you know, look
at look at any new women or what have you,
because he's gonna be just like that crazy person that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Hurt the mother.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
So you're gonna damage your daughter and your son behind
the damage that you experienced from watching your mother being
beat to a pope.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
What do you need to do?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
She obviously needs counseling, you know, the mother needs to
be in counseling if she's still alive, and I hope
she is. But this is a person that definitely needs
what we call trauma focused counseling. It's not just counseling,
trauma focused because she has that the brain has not
processed that those scenes and put them away somewhere in
her memory bank. Those scenes are still right there and
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they and they blind her from being able to see
any love out there in this world, from being able
to see anyone that could care for her, and it
blinds her from and keeps her from being able to
reach out and touch people and have people brought in
to her that she could that would comfort her as well.
So counseling is extremely important, but it needs to be
trauma focused counseling with people who are trauma focused therapists,
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not just anybody. Not anybody, but no, yeah, no, And
many people will say that they're trauma focused. My wife
and I have some credentials in trauma focused men. You know,
if you think about it, all psychologists have worked with
trauma before. Because all these people that come to see
us have been traumatized, depressed, people have experienced significant losses.
That's trauma. People who are who have anxiety, they saw
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things or witness things, or they experienced things, or they
were involved in things which causes their brain not to
be able to relax anymore. That's trauma. Paranoia, something that's
happened to them, that's trauma. So if you think about it,
most mental illness has trauma related. So therefore you have
to have someone that can take you back through the
trauma and help your brain to be able to accept
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it for what it was and also say that that's
the past. Now you have to deal with the emotion
of it, the thought of it, the feeling that surrounds it,
the smell of the environment that you were in where
the trauma happened. That's when you hear about that. Many
of these ladies will still talk about They cannot remember
(26:24):
the actual molestation, they cannot remember it clearly, but they
can remember the room because see, when they were being
sodomized or raped, their brain shifted away from being hurt,
from the body being hurt, and the brain kind of
what we call dissociates. She dissociates and you kind of
look away when you're being traumatized. Think about somebody coming
(26:45):
upon on you with a knife and chopping on your arm.
I mean, at some point your brain cannot tolerate, it
cannot tolerate seeing that. So your brain will literally shift
your mental status to something else where. You're going to
be thinking about the color of the room and color
of the walls in the room, and all of a sudden,
the armor is gone. Yeah, and you canna step back
(27:06):
out of it. Trauma does that, Okay?
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Speaker 2 (28:04):
You're listening to the Queen of Talk on w d
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Bev Johnson.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And we are here with doctor Warren Harper. Back to
our phone lines to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Hi, Janie, Yes, yes, yes, Hi, Hi Beverly. Hi, Doctor Hopper.
I'm doing great, So that's a Hopper. I have the
utmost respect for you. I have been listening to you
for quite a while on the Bev Johnson's boat and
I'm just impressed with your I'm just impressed with the
(29:29):
things that you say. You know, how you clinically diagnos things.
I'm impressed. And so having said that, I want to
I want to make mention of something. W D I
ain't has a caller that comes and calls on the radio.
He calls quite frequently, and I get offended, you know,
(29:49):
with his conversation because he talks. He actually talks down
to black people, he talks down to Democrats, and and
he suggests that you know, he's a minister, he's a
man of the close, and he knows the Bible from
agency is what he likes to get them pression of.
And but what he's promoting is he's promoting Donald Trump.
(30:12):
You know, he's trying to tell people that Donald Trump
was sent by God. And you know, and he is
Donald Trump, you know, let him tell him. Donald Trump
is just a perfect man. But yet and still he
and he's the thing is he loves to come on
and talk about our past president, which is Barack President Barack.
(30:34):
And I don't see Barack as a perfect person. I
don't see any man as being perfect. I know who's perfect, Okay,
But you know, I'm not sure who hates him the most,
Donald Trump, who hates President Barack's the most? Donald Trump?
Or this guy where's his name is?
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Dorothy?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And every point that he makes, it's got to be
something negative about President Obama, which is not even in office.
And I mean, I can't understand it because unless you're
trying to brainwash people or you're getting paid to come
on the air because this is a black radio station
to say all of his garbage. And you know, I'm
a person that I know it's.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
A lot of people that may know the Bible that.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
That does not mean to me that you are what
you say you are right. And I'm not impressed with
his character. I have heard him. I have heard him
threatened people over the air.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I've heard him stay that he went in to pull
u pit and beat some beat, jumped on some ministers
because somebody cross him or something. And then I've also
heard him say that ministers come to him because you know,
as if he knows the direction to go and he
knows the teaching and everything. But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
And I'm gonna tell you why I don't like it,
because a lot of people listen to the radio and
they are looking for a sense of direction, and a
lot of people aren't. Often sometimes people use their education,
and sometimes they try to control people with the way
they're thinking and stuff, and they put a and they
try to implant their way of thinking, you know, on people.
And I just you know, and that I don't like
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about this guy, and you know, and he makes he
makes the point of doing it every day, and I
just I just wonder why a person would do that,
you know, I met, They're getting paid. They got to
have something in it for them to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Well, well, keep in mind, we're all we're all sent
here by God. So that does not give Donald Trump
any kind of special consideration, particularly to a person who is,
as I said before, he is character logically impaired. He's
unfit for the office. He he is not someone that
loves that loves people in general. He is a billionaire,
(32:43):
and there's questions about that as as well. He's also
someone that is going to at some point gonna come
down on black folks because in his mind, if you're
not him, then you're not important. Now, the fact is
that we have some people out here who basically live
and die for Donald Trump. No, I don't think they're
getting paid. I just think they're delusional. And when I
say that, you know, I'm not saying that they're mentally ill,
(33:05):
but they have a fixed false belief. The bottom line
is that anytime you listen, whether it's on the conservative
or the liberal channels, where they pointing out here this
this person's pathological lying and the other behaviors that he's
done to demean women, as well as his characterizations of
Latin American or Mexican people as being criminals and rapists and.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
What have you.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Anybody that talks that way is psychologically impaired. So if
you choose to buy into that kind of a person,
that says something about your mental status and sad. It's
a sad reality. When you start buying into someone who
is obviously obviously psychologically impaired, and you believe that that
person is is a god or a saint, then you
(33:50):
don't sound like you're you're representing God. It sounds like
you're representing the other end.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I completely agree in my sentiments exactly. I just you know,
I just don't you know, and I see you trying
to convince people that he is the perfect person for us,
and we need to buy into Donald Trump. But at
the same time, you ignore all the things that he
says right, and you say you are san you say
you're a man of God. You come on a radio
(34:17):
and you're quoting these scriptions, and you actually want people
to believe in you, and it's I think I find
it very insulting, you know, you know it's hurtful.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I think you're psychologically saying because on the one hand,
you're able to say Barack Obama was imperfect President Barack
Obama wasn't perfect, And I'm perfectly saying too, because I
don't see any person that's perfect either. But you know,
if you didn't say that, if all you were to
say was that the president Barack Obama was the best
thing since sliced bread, and and everything he did was
(34:50):
was right, et cetera, then that means something's wrong with
your reality testing, because everything, okay, that's right.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
As much as I was happy to have a black
president me too in office, I still know venter than that,
you know, And I wouldn't even trying to convince anybody
else of that, you know, But you know, I just
wanted to share that with you because.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
We're glad you shared it. I'm so glad you shared it.
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Jane.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
All right, yea, I have a good one you too.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Bye bye, Hi, Vicky.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
What's Beverly?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You got it? Vicky?
Speaker 5 (35:24):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (35:25):
I'm great, Beverly. I want to tell that lady Dorsey
is not quoting scriptures. Read them. He's not quoting scriptures.
That's Dorset speech. He's not quoting scripture. That stuff is
not in the battle. It may be a part of it,
it may be some of it, it may be in
the middle, but he's not quoting scriptures.
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Ma'am.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
It's not Okay, good, Okay. Then I just wanted to
put that out there. He had like he's so godly,
but he's not quoting scriptures. He got Dorsey speed want.
I just wanted to talk about, you know, my tempted rate. Okay,
And that's why when I called in, you know a
lot of time I seemed so hard toward the people.
I'm so glad they're doing the uh testing. They gonna
(36:02):
finish the testing on the rape kits. I'm so I
want them to. I want them to, cause i'm'a tell
you what happened to me, I was like in my twenties,
in my late twenties and leaving a friend a man
house to live next door to my sister, and so
I didn't have a wrong way home. I lived quite
away from where my sister lived. So okay, s oh well,
(36:24):
I'll take you home. We'll take you home. He had
his friend who had he had to take him home too.
So his friend lived like in where where pe v
uh not uh where. I don't know the name of
those apartments on Elvis Presley, but they done close down
and now or they may ue have refurbished him or whatever.
Not too far from a cemetery. Do you know. After
(36:47):
he dropped his friend home off, he took me to
the cemetery. Mm mm, I was so scared, cause all
my life I have been afraid of the dog beb
I sleep right now with like something I have always
been afraid to dark. He took me to the cemetery.
I was so scared, but I cried and cried and
begged him. I told him I do anything he wanted
(37:09):
me to take to do. But there was like one
of those little cheap hotels on Elvis Presley, and that's
where he went. He went to check in. When he
went to check in, I jumped out of the car
and I ran h and I went to Elvis Presley Boulevard.
I got this older man. I opened it. I snatched
his door open at the lights, and I asked him
(37:29):
could he take me home? I was so scared because
I didn't want to be rape cluse. You know what. Yeah,
age was out then age had just came. I want age,
you die from age. I didn't want her peas. I
didn't want that. I was so scared, so I just
couldn't imagine. I just couldn't do it. So I ran.
This man took me home. He wanted to knock on
the door and talk to my mama. Yeah, but no,
(37:52):
I made an excuse for that. But I'm just letting
you know. It's all kind of people and me and
in the world, people who you never would think. And
now they got all these rape kids open. And I'm
sure that guy who tried me, he probably tried it
on many and many women.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Probably so.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
And then on on on the show on Talent Show,
this guy was calling in saying talking about how funny
it was and how they tried to they rape women
and stuff. Back then. I pray to God his kid
is in there truly, because he thought it was funny.
So I just wanted to just wanted to say that
the you know, I found so hard about yeah this cause,
(38:32):
but I just can't. I'm just saying, there are men
that are rapists and would make them like that. Doctor Becauld,
you tell us why men do that and why they
liked it?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Well, the simple answer is that men do it because
they can get away with it. The men do it
because the courts did not want to prosecute men for
doing it. Men do it because women were not believed
when they said they were raped. So men have been
rewarded for stepping over the bounds or stepping over the
boundary when it comes to what is sexually appropriate and
sexually not appropriate. And some men are psychologically damaged to
(39:04):
the point whereas uh, they know right from wrong. But
as far as they're concerned, what his right is to
be able to get their needs met and be down
with anybody else?
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Right?
Speaker 10 (39:13):
Well, you know, doctor Howper, I think that's a modern
day thing. I think these men, I just can't understand
why you want to have sixed with somebody who don't
want to be have sicked with you.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Well, you know, it's it's interesting you when you mentioned that,
because I'm still trying to figure out how how how
psychologically screwed up Bill Cosby is where he wants he
wants to have drugged women. Either either whatever he was
were using was so small that.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
He was afraid of it, I'm afraid of him.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Or or something else was wrong. But anyway, anyway, he
obviously was a sexual predator.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
In sexually.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
That's what it is, That's what it boiled down through.
These predators in the world take advantage of women. Thank you, Bicky,
Thank you, Beverly, Bye.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Bye bye bye. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
And hey, how are you all doing the better?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Face doing wonderful bird legs and you.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
I'm doing great. Thank you. Hello, doctor Harper, hell I
love it when you're home.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
I won't be but a minute. I was looking at
the tri State Defender and it has a person on
the front of it, Reverend Manuel Donnis. I was wondering
whether that Dorset because he's really into trauma the man
something okay, okay, Well, what I really called for is
I had a friend of mine, not not very very
long ago, shared something with me.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
He's in his sixties.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
He was raped molested when he was a childish a man,
and and and you were speaking of trauma. And he
was on the phone with me traveling out of state,
and this man had to pull over because he finally
got that out of his system.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
He cried, He cried.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
He probably cried.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
From one state to another as he was traveling, because
he opened up and told me that. And I believe
that it's more men than him, or if they would
just let it out. Yes, he cared enough to share
with me what happened to him. He's not gay, he's
a man man. He's been mistreated by women, and today
he said he don't mind being mistreated by women. I
(41:14):
was wondering if that was something to go along with
that rate that he dealt with as a man. I'm
going to hang up. I know you're getting ready to go,
but you know, I believe it's a lot of men
right here that call this radio station that were probably
abused as boys as well. I'm gone, y'all.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You two burn legs. Thank you? Yeah, okay, no, bye bye,
just said doctor Harper. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
I think that's exactly right. I think oftentimes when you
have men who have been sexually abused or or or
touched or what have you, that they also have a
lot of psychological difficulties as well. But see again, men
hide theirs with alcohol and drugs, so you never know
and you never know how fraid they are of being
intimate with women because every time that they're they're with
(41:54):
the women, they're drinking, and alcohol tends to mask all
their fears and anxieties. But it also means that that
when they are intimate with women, it's usually probably very
rough or gruff, or it takes about two seconds and
they've they've enjoyed themselves and they move on. But these
men have a lot of psychological problems as well.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Doctor Harvard couldn't show today last words, Oh good show today,
last words you'd like to say to our listeners this day.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I think the Me Too movement is all about women
standing up for themselves and not letting men push them
down anymore. I think real black men are men who who,
like Steve loves loves their wife or loves their lady
and respects them to the point where they would not
let any other man talk against them, and they would
not pull up, pull up their hand to harm them
as well. I think if we're going to be psychologically
(42:40):
healthy parents and grandparents, then we have to make sure
that the children that we raise are not sitting around
like slugs and doing nothing with their life. Steve pointed out,
we don't need grown people sitting around the house, get
having babies and not doing a damn thing except having
more babies and trying to mooch off of parents. I
think we're time for all of us to grow up.
And I'm the first one to say I'm growing up still.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
All right, Doctor Warren Harper Psychologists, thank you brother, our
house doctor in the house, thank you so much good
information today. Want to remind you don't forget. We will
be out tonight for Domestic Violence Awareness Month. We will
be at the Paradise Entertainment Center. My girl will be
in the house. Miss Sheba Pot's right and oh handsome
pyt Gerald Richardson. So come on out and support the
(43:26):
brothers of Omegasci five fraternity. They're putting this on because
they want to bring awareness to domestic violence and also
the money will be going to the Hope Center at
Grace And see you tomorrow night. All the covers the
nineteen sixty eight graduating class of Carver High School celebrating
fifty years tomorrow at Case Management right there at Democratic Brooks.
(43:48):
The Tim Pries, who are graduates of the class of
nineteen sixty eight, will be performing and be hosted by
BEB Johnson. It's gonna be a good weekend. Be safe.
I know we got the wine on the river, we
got info fast, but be safe out there, all right.
Thank you carlingers and listeners for joining us this day
on the Bed Johnson Show. We do, we really do
appreciate you. So until tomorrow, please be safe. Keep a
(44:13):
cool head, y'all. Don't let anyone steal your joy. Until tomorrow.
I'm BB Johnson, and y'all keep the faith. Mark Baker,
take Me Home, boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
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