Home Improvement Show 12-07-24

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Good morning and welcome. It is the Home Improvement Show
of the Midlands and we thank you for joining us
this morning here on one oh three point five FM
and five sixty am WVOC. Anywhere you go throughout the holidays,
you can always take us with you, of course on
the I Heart Radio app Totally Free. Coming up, we'll
talk to Jeremy Holiday. Mister Electric will be joining the

(00:35):
program this morning, as will Summer from Beaver Roofing and Gutters.
A little bit later on. We get started this morning
with my friend and hopefully soon to be yours cause
he's a really nice guy, Russ Barcesy from Finishing Touch,
the Finishing Touch Teem. Hey buddy, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hey Gary? How you doing good to be here? I'm
doing good, doing good. Still still trying to recover from
you know, Thanksgiving and all that. It's a morning a
week ago, I know, but I'm still trying to recover
me both so a big time. Absolutely Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We I think we were eating leftovers for the last
three days at least, so ours.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Made it through about the Carolina Clemson is that right?
And that's when we finally finally posshed the rest of them. Yeah,
go cocks man. Hey right, you know hey, uh and
we got a chance to show off our newly painted
from the family. Yes, thank you for the yes, and
we want to talk about that today. The man I

(01:30):
you don't want to talk about you during the week
on Columbia's Morning News. I almost hesitate sometimes to call
it painting. It's painting, but it's I mean, it's it's
a lot more than just coming in. And as I
always say, if you hired somebody to come in and
slap a code of paint up on another code of
paint in your house, well you just got ribbed.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Off pretty much pretty much. It's there's just such a
big difference between uh, professional painting and you know, amateur painting,
I guess is what you refer to it, as you know.
And again it's just the We've heard it a million
times Gary, right. Everybody can paint, Okay, I can't tell

(02:09):
you how many times we I'll go do an estimate,
for example, and a customer will tell me, well, I
enjoy painting or I can I can do I can
paint myself right, but I can't get.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
These high areas.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
So I just want you guys to maybe focus on
this foyer area, and I'm gonna do this area right.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Of the time. Gary.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
By the time we're done with it, they normally have
us go right ahead and do what they were gonna
do anyway, because they see the difference, you know, and
there just is and it's all in the preparation work
and in the products that you use. You can't skimp
on on products whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
But I tell you you you buy a gallon of
bad paint, you have a bad experience, You'll know it.
You'll absolutely know it. It's uh, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
We call it like a cheap builder grade type type
flat paint, right. Everybody knows about it. It's the stuff
where you you go to wipe a handprint off and
it takes the paint off with it type paint.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
So we don't use anything like that ever. We use
all mainly Share Williams products. That's what we use. Don't
get me wrong. Each you know, Benjamin Moore, whether it's
Bear Sherwyn Williams, each of them have very good products
and they all have not so good products right.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Their own levels.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
They do they do. One of the reasons that we
do go with Shrew Williams. I should touch on this
is the fact that they they have such a great
guarantee with their product. They have individual sales reps that
that service our our account our company okay, and anything whatsoever,
any any sort of warranty issue or anything that happens

(03:44):
with the paint, they stand behind it one hundred percent.
That's a huge deal when you're talking about you know,
an exterior or you know, we do a lot of
tilt up pre cast tilt up buildings, concrete, okay, and
these paint systems have they have to work and they
have to last. So it's it is a good it's
a good feeling to have those guys you know, on

(04:06):
your side, on your team and have your back when
when it comes to these uh these it doesn't happen
very often, but.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
What sort of things can go wrong with paint.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right, So, uh, it really just depends. So for example, uh,
if you're painting concrete, if you if if the block
hasn't cured out enough and there's there's efflorescence within the
concrete itself, it'll come through the paint and you'll have uh,
you know, you know, chalkiness and and it'll it'll foul,

(04:39):
is what will happen. So you know, there's there's not
a whole lot of things that that necessarily happens.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Usually it's user user error when that does happen. But uh,
there have been times where paint hasn't cured out correctly right,
so it might stay a little tacky, or in the
industry we call it flashing, where when you look down
the side of it, you see like all the spots everywhere, correct,

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you know, things like that.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know, that's more of a function of the paint
itself or the process. It can be the paint or
the paint. It can be both, it really can. The
flashing is generally a user a user issue. What's going
on there? What causes that? Uh?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Improper priming. So when you when you have a drywall
spot on your wall, let's say, okay, and you need
to touch it up. We what we do is we
do a two step process. Okay, a lot of people
will go ahead and throw their wall paint right over
the top of that drywall patch. You can't do that.
You're going to have a flash mark there. Okay, you
have to prime it with an actual drywall primer first,

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and then what we like to do is we like
to spot prime it again with the actual finish paint
and then paint the wall. Okay, when you do it
that way, you don't see the flash marks whatsoever. It's
it hides it pretty pretty darn well, is what it does.
And uh, you know, and speaking on that between flats
and eggshells, I get this all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Eggshells are very difficult to touch up because of the
sheen that you have with it. Okay, so every time
you're putting a coat of paint on there, Gary, you're
building up that sheen, all right, So when you do
look down the side of it, you see a flash
mark there. So you know, sometimes it's just a preference thing,
and people want to see that sheen. They like to
have that little bit of a sheine there. But a

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flat goes a long ways because if you go with
a very good quality flat, it touches up great. So
a year down the road, you could walk around literally
with a paper towel, napkin okay, and top of a
can and dab it and touch it up, and it's
going to blend in a whole heck of a lot
better than an eggshell would. So you get a lot
longer out of your paint job that way?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
So are there I know your process having witness at firsthand.
I mean, you guys are going to come in whatever's
up on that wall, you're standing it down, correct, You're
fixing any imperfections in the sheet rock. Absolutely, But you know,
for just a tip for those of us who say, yeah,
I want to do it myself, are there certain you
got like you said, you got flat, you got eggshell,

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you've got satin, satin, you have satases, semi glosses, my glosses.
So what are the rules for Okay? If and how
do you know what this paint is you're getting ready
to put this other paint on top? What works and
what doesn't?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, so generally it doesn't matter when it comes to
the sheen. Okay, you can go over a flat with
an eggshell, an eggshell with a flat, None of that
really matters so much. What does matter is if you're
going over an oil based paint with a latex. Okay,
that's where you're gonna have issues. You can never put
a latex over an oil.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
You just can't.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Now, you can put an oil base over a latex,
but you can't put a latex over an oil. It'll
peel right off. How many times have you seen where
you know, a door frame or a piece of base
board just peels right off with your nail, pretty easy,
just flakes right off, right right.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Generally that's because they put a latex over an oil,
is what happens, and they didn't bond prime at first.
So take Shandon for example, older homes. There a lot
of oil based paint on the trim in those homes, okay,
but they don't want to go back with an oil
because it smells, Its stinks, and when we touch things up.
You got that smell in your house for a couple

(08:23):
of days, right, So nobody likes that, so they want
to convert to a latex trim paint. Let's say, so
what we have to do is obviously do all of
our preparation work thoroughly sanding everything down. We go a
step further. We take wood fillers and bondos and pill
any little nicks and gaps in your trim, okay, just
to make it look better, just to go the extra mile, Okay,

(08:44):
we calk any gaps, and then we would bond prime
the trim with a universal bonding primer so that we
can put a latex paint over the top of it,
and it'll all adhere and bond to it correctly.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
So it's an extra step, you know, because you have
to prime everything. But it's uh, it's well worth it
in the long run to not have to continue to
use oil based paint, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, I was going to ask you, what, what what
did most people use these days? Apparently it's not oil base,
It's not.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's really now. Oil base is really kind of going away.
Matter of fact, I think it's legal in several states
right now. I know New York, let's they don't even
sell oil based paint up there any longer.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, uh, kind of a funny story.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
My my uncle was doing a project up in New Upstate,
New York, where he lives, and he couldn't get oil
based paint, and uh, we were going up there for
a for a trip to see some family, and I
brought a gallon. I smuggled a gallon in for him.
Don't don't tell anybody. So yeah, it's uh not easy.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is that? Is that all? Is that a health thing?

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, it's something to do with the E p A.
I mean, it's it's it's all about the VOCs, right,
they're there. That's the that's the the chemical that you're
smelling that gives you a headache. Okay, that's what it is.
And so now everything's going green. We use a lot
of green different paints. We use zero VOC paints constantly,
almost almost exclusively really when we're working. So when we're

(10:08):
painting a room, you don't even know we're painting in
that room. You can't even smell it. I was going
to ask you about that. I noticed that. Yeah, it's
a it's a big plus, especially when we're working working
in doctors offices, hospitals, things like that. Sure, you know,
you got to be conscious that kind of stuff. So, uh,
but but yeah, they have a whole line of zero
VOC paints that we use all the time, and uh

(10:30):
and they work well, they work great, I really do.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
There was something I was going to ask you, kind
of a you know, just a tip for for folks listening. Yeah,
and dog go if it just I just lost it.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well there's so much to it, you know, there's so
much to it. But but I mean, these are the differences, right,
this is where our expertise come into play. We know,
you know, painting in and out everything about it, you know,
all the different.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
You've been doing this now for well, you've been doing
it for a long time. Oh, you've been in business
with Finishing Touch Team for almost what twenty three years?
Twenty three years, Gary, right, twenty three years right here
in Columbia. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I'm a second generation painter. Actually my father was a painter.
His father was a plaster drywall finisher is what he was.
So it's kind of kind of in our blood per se,
you know. But oh, I was going to work with
my dad when I was seven eight years old, you know,
standing and picking up. Absolutely, he would reward me. He'd

(11:30):
take me to Toys r Usta to get something.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
That was my That was my very payment. Very nice.
You didn't have to pay taxes on that, No, no, no,
Uncle Sam. Now, something that we have touched on from
time to time. But another part of your business is
cabinet work, correct.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Absolutely a good part of it, actually, Gary, We it's
one of our specialties is what we do. We probably
finished two to three sets of cabinets in our in
our shop per week.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Say so you'd actually you take the doors and all
off and we do those you bring back to the shop,
we do. Yeah, everything else is done on site, yeah right.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, everything. All your doors are numbered, so they go
back in the exact same spots that we took them
off in, Okay, because if you don't do that and
you just mix them up randomly, even though it's the
same sized door, it's not and it's not going to fit, right,
It's gonna be hinge bound. Something's going to happen. So
we number all the doors before we take them off,
and then we bring them to our shop and do
the preparation and painting there.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
So so that begs the question, why not just do
the doors on site too, like with the rest of
the cabinets. What's the difference.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, because it's not a controlled environment, right, So when
we bring them to our shop, we're preparing for doing
all of our preparation work and our painting and a
spray booth okay, with ventilation systems and you know, a
draft system. Okay, so it sucks all the any dust
that's in the air, you know, just any contaminants that

(12:57):
are that are just floating around, gets rid of all.
That makes a big, big difference in the finish of
the cabinet, so when you run your hand across it,
it should be smooth.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
As glass, right, smooth as a baby. Yeah, correct.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
So if you if you do them on site, let's
say all the doors, or I've seen a lot of
people try to do them in their garage, yeah, which
is a big mistake because there's just so much dust
in a garage.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
You can tell the difference. You put your hand across it,
and there's all sorts of little bumps and you know,
little objects that's stuck into the pain as it was carrying.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So that's that's obviously you can't take all the cabinets
and take them back to the shot, but I guess
if you could you would, right.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, For an existing repaint like that, all the boxing
has to be done obviously on site, but it's still
we try to control it as much as possible. After
we sand, we tack cloth everything down to get rid
of any sort of dust on the on the cabinet whatsoever,
before we do any sort of painting whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I guess when you walk into a kitchen, it's
what you see are the cabinet doors. It makes it,
it is, that's what you know.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
People you know you've heard the expression people eat with
their eyes, right, so they it's a it's a big
focal point in a kitchen. Okay, anytime I walk into
a kitchen, it's the first thing I look at our countertops,
and in cabinetry, that makes a big difference, you know.
It's it's such a cool thing too, because you you
get so much bang for your buck painting your cabinets

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versus just replacing.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Them, yet very costly, very costly.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Painting them is a fraction of the cost. And speaking
of costs, we're actually offering a twenty percent off on
any sort of cabinet painting till the first of the year.
Oh really, absolutely so. Uh now's a really really good
time to get your kitchen cabinets done, or bathroom vanity even,
or maybe an island in your kitchen. Okay, we do

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built ins all the time, you know, bookshelves on either
side of a fireplace, do all sorts of cabinetry like that.
And we're offering twenty perc off right now to the
first of the year.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
What's a turnaround time on something like that, Russ, because
you hear, yeah, holiday season at all.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
And yeah, I just got this question yesterday actually, So basically,
if we pick up your we'd like to schedule it
on a Monday, okay, So we'd like to remove all
the doors on a Monday, and typically typically speaking, we're
reinstalling your doors the following Monday.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
That gives it enough time for the doors to cure,
the paint to cure, so that we can transport the
doors again back to your house right and install them
without any blemishes or you know, problems whatsoever with the paint.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Okay. Yeah, so twenty percent off through the end of
the year.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Twenty percent off, Gary, Yeah, that's a it's a huge
savings right now till the first of the year. You know,
you can set up an appointment on the website Finishing
Touch team dot com. You can always go there, or
you can always give me a call at eight oh
three four sixty seven six seven five nine, and we'd
be glad to glad.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
To fix you up. And by the way, if you
don't get a hold of Russ and the folks right away,
don't don't. Don't worry about how many days is it
going to be until they call me back. Oh no,
oh no, we have a big focus for you guys. Absolutely,
you have to have service, right.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I have.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Beat that down for the last twenty three years. We
don't take any any more than forty eight hours to
get an estimate out. Generally speaking, it's the same day.
We always answer our phones. We always call people back.
You have to, You just have to. I can't tell
you how many times I show up on estimates and
I'm the only guy out of three people that showed up.

(16:32):
That's crazy for the estimate. I just can't can't wrap
my head around that. You know that fact. But it
is what it is. You know, that's not us. We
strive on service.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's a Finishing Touch Team dot com. The website's you
get all the information you need to ride there, contact
in twelve and everything else. And again twenty percent off
on the cabinet work through the end of the year.
It's a great discount. It's a fabulous discount. Russ Barques
a finishing Touch team. Always good to see about it.
Thanks care, there are your weekend same here, Thank you.

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as always, we thank you so much for joining us
for the Home improvement Show of the Midlands here on
one of three point five FM and five sixty a
M company voc If you're just joining us, my name
is Gary David. Good morning to you. I know it's
mornings like this you hate to get out of bed.
Only is it Saturday? But it is cold again. What
a crazy week we had, you know, hard freezes. Then

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we had temperatures in the fifties one morning. What was
that Thursday morning? I guess it was, and then back
to the hard freezes again. So we're dealing with that
this morning, Jeremy Holiday, mister electric is in the household
bundled up. How are your brother?

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Good morning, Gary, I'm doing fantastic.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, we we talked with you know, James Carr
what of our freedom pubbing about this. Yeah, when it
gets cold outside, you know you gotta wrap, you know,
maybe put you know, the little you know, wrap things
on the outside faucets and such and leave them, you know,
leave water dripping and the especially those out those outlets,
but those faucets that are out on an outside wall
and things. So we know about this one. But any

(19:56):
concerns with electricity or any issues you have electricity when
it gets cold like it's gotten here.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
Well, yeah, when temperature changes, it's always good to check
your electrical periodically. You know, you can get loose connections
things like that. Space heaters get plugged in a lot
of times, yeah, a lot of times. You can only
use one space heater on a circuit. Sometimes you don't

(20:22):
want to, you know, if you have a you just
don't want to overload the circuit.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, this begs the question, you know, as a as
a non electrician, I mean, how do I know what
outlets are on what circuit or is there any way
for me to tell there is?

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Hopefully your panels labeled right, you know, so, and and
space heaters you know, really should be plugged into a
twenty app circuit in most cases. So sometimes you may
want to dedicate the circuit for that space heater. But
if you turn off the breaker in your panel that's

(20:59):
labeled for the room you're in, yeah, you can kind
of find out what I was on that circuit if.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's not labeled. You the old fashioned way, just start
turning them off and on and figure out what's what
that's right, Yeah, that's what I got to do it.
So no more than one on a circuit on any
given circuit.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yes, yeah, because most you know, depending on the space heater.
You know, the majority of them that we see are
twelve amps, and so if you plug in two to
a circuit, you're you're going to overload that circuit.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, So we hear space heater stories, man, a space
heater horror stories. I meant to say a bad things
that are gonna happen with space I mean, but all
if I guess if you used properly, they're safe, right,
they would be on the market.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
Yeah, you just got to read the directions, you know,
and uh check out where you're plugging it in. Best
to have it on a twenty amp circuit, so you
can go to your panel box a lot of times
and find you know, a twenty amp breaker. That's a
twenty amp circuit. Okay, and uh whatever it's able to
as you know it's convenient.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, let's say let's say it's not convenient. Let's say
that that you know that outlet is in another room
that I want than the room I want the space
heater in. Are there issues with running extension cords and
such with space heaters?

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yes, you don't want to put space heaters on any
kind of strips. You shouldn't be running them through extension chords.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Not not even not even a strip like a molt
box kind of thing. I mean, straight into the wall.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Straight into the wall is always the best policy with
your space heating.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I call it a molt box. I don't know what
that that search protector, I guess is what I'm saying, right.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
Yeah, a searge strip, any kind of power strips, Uh,
A lot of times they won't be rated for it.
So you need to read your strips that you get.
You need to you need to pay attention to your
extension cords. Extension chords are for temporary use, not for
permanent situations, and you should be checking out, uh, what
that extension chords rated for. So you have different size

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extension chords. One that you might use outdoors, right, outdoor rated?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Is that would that be a can you use that
in a home on a space heater or is that
just is that just different because it's got more protection
around it for the outdoors.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's just got more protection for the elements
there outside. It's okay to use it indoors. You just
don't want to use an indoor extension cord outside. Right,
So we start getting into wire sizes, how long the
chord is, and that might be just a little too
far for a common you know, a person who's not

(23:37):
an electrician to reach into. So the best policy would
be plugging into the wall, don't put it in an
extension chord, don't put it in a strip, don't put
it in a serge strip, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Just make sure the circuit's adequate for it and you're
not overloading your circuit.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I guess if you don't check and you plug it
in your overload're gonna know pretty.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
U anyway, right, Ye, the breakers should trip hopefully or
hopefully depending on what kind of panel you got and
what kind of breakers you got.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, well, what happens in a situation Jeremy where
you say you do something like, yeah, you plug it
on an out of that's that doesn't handle it, but
the circuit doesn't trip. What kind of damage can you
be doing here?

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Well, you can. You can overheat the wiring in the wall. Uh,
it doesn't sound good, right, and then melt it down.
You know.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Worst case scenario, you could have a home fire. So
you're you're definitely if your breaker's not tripping and you're
overloading the circuit for whatever reason, you're definitely going to
have some damage to your wiring system.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Minimum.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
And these these space heaters coming in varying sizes, you know,
some I bigger, some smaller. Are the smaller ones? Do
they draw less or are that all about the same
as far.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
As they do draw they do. You can find some
that draw less, So that's a good point. If you
check the rating of the space heater, maybe you get one,
say nine amps it's a little better if you're trying
to put it into a fifteen amp circuit that you know,
a fifteen circuit is only good for I think it's
twelve point five amps off the top of May at
eighty percent rated.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, so if you have a bath at home on
that one.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Yeah, So if you if you plug in a twelve
mamp space heater, you're most likely going to overload that
fifteen amp circuit.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
What's the typical when you go to your your and
I have to do this, you go into your circuit box,
your breaker box is there like a typical you know
rated when you look at that or they you see
fifteen twelve? But what are your normal? What's the average?
What's the normal on a breaker.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
You know at fifteen amps? Would be the normal? General
purpose circuit and a residential home. Every once in a
while we run across homes where they've been wired in
all twenty amp. But most cases, you know, unless it's
a custom home or something like that, track homes are
normally going to have fifteen amp general purpose circuit, twenty
amp dedicated circuits for like the bathrooms, the kitchen, in countertops,

(26:01):
the outdoor receptacles, hopefully garage maybe you know, have twenty
amp circuits.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Shit, if you were to plug that space heater into
one of these what do you call them GFI.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Outlets gfis, yes, ground fault.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Is that a good idea or not? Or is it helpful?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
You should?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You should?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Gfis.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
You should put those anywhere you can. You know, they're
very good to eliminate electric eliminate electrical shocks. So if
there's any kind of leaking current and you come in
contact with it, that GFI should trip instantly.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, So that's not necessarily a function of those aren't
a function of your overloaded the circuit. That's a function
of something moisture has got in somewhere and it needs
to shut down. That's right, works differently your circuit breaker. Okay,
I got you, yep.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
And ground fault.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
You know, circuit interrupters should be in areas like kitchens, bathrooms, outdoors, garages, basements,
or where they might come into contact, uh with water
anywhere electricity mixing with water.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
You know, and you don't want to use anything.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
You don't want to have your space heater or any
kind of electrical device next year, you know, you don't
want to be using radio propped up on the side of.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Your bathtub, you know. Yeah, no, keep electricity away from
the water.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's the thing of horror movies, right there.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'm in the hot tub, enjoying the
hot tub. There's a reason there's a ten foot minimum
from the hot tub for the first receptacle.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Again, I've never been a hot tub owner, so I
wouldn't have known that. Okay, Now, we talked a couple
of weeks ago, and I think you know, by this time,
most folks have You've probably got the place all decked
out now ready for Christmas, which we're just then I'll
believe it or not. I mean, gosh, a couple of
weeks away from it. How crazy is this?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Uh know?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
It goes by fast, done it though, But it might
be a good time to revisit again. Some of the
common mistakes that we make when we're plugging everything up,
getting get old.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
And it may work, yeah, for a while.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
For a while, but there are certain things you want
to avoid, so we should probably go over that again.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know you don't wanna It's the
same thing you don't wanna. You don't want to overload
your circuitry, right, so, uh, and when you're running chords outside,
you want to make sure they're rated, you know, for
your Christmas lights raided for outdoor use. If you're running chords,
you know two hundred foot away, you're gonna want to

(28:29):
go with a higher gauge wire, So you want to
use that for voltage drop. You know you're going so far,
you're plugging it in everything you can. You shouldn't be
and you shouldn't be daisy chaining strips, you know, Uh,
you shouldn't be daisy chaining.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Explain what that is now, So that's where you're.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Using you're jumping off of in series, so you're you're
jumping off of one device and plugging in another device
to give it power.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
So strip and.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Then you're plugging a strip into the strip to get
more receptacles.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well, we just went through this last this past week
when we put it up the Christmas we got one
of those. Well, after years of railing against artificial trees,
I finally gave in and got an artificial tree. And
quite honestly, it's very convenient, and it was a pre
lit one. But you know, every every year you put
it up, but it okay, now these lights aren't working anymore.

(29:27):
You know, we've had it for quite some time, so yeah,
we added additional lights to it. But but as you say,
that's that's the way those come. You know, those those
those little lights you put on trees and you know
you're you're daisy chaining them. Right, So even something like
that is a bad idea, is that what you're telling you.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
No, it's okay if it's designed for it.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
Okay, but in this situation where strips you're using, you know,
say it's a six receptacle strip, you're trying to get
six receptacles out of one. Now you're trying to get
twelve out of one because you're you're daisy chaining the strip.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
So you're taking us six plugging into a six strip. Okay, yeah,
it just keep going, you know, it's not Yeah that
that adds up in a hurry.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
Yes, yeah, that adds up pretty quick. So you don't
want to be doing that. Proper use of the extension chords,
you know, it is always and then you know, unplugging things,
you know, uh don't you know, I know, it's it's
nice to have your Christmas lights on all night. But yeah,

(30:30):
you know it's it's it's a good idea to unplug
anything while you're not using it.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh so, actually I mean physically unplugging from the wall.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Oh yeah, especially.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
Especially for devices that generate heat or have a potential
for short circuitry when unused.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's not just going to turn it off. You should
unplug from the wall.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Anything you know, Christmas lights, you probably turn them off.
That's probably good enough, turn them off. But anything that
generates heat, so your space heater, you should have an
unplugged Oh okay, curling iron, you should unplug it when
you're done using it. Hair dryers, toaster ovens, microwaves a
lot of times.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know, well it makes it top with the built ins,
I mean you can't.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
The built ins are tough. Yeah, they're up in the
cabinet right.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
So anything with you know, capacitors, it's holding electricity. If
there's any kind of damage in there, it could release
some electricity. But especially things that create heat, that's that's
easily unplugged.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, yeah, coping a bit. We're all violating that rule.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I imagine. I mean you should also be testing when
you thought about doing that.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Yeah, you should be testing your functioning breakers once a
month too, Right, Well, I don't know who.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
All does that either, Well how do you how do
you do that? Just well, flip flipmont.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Mean there's a test button on them.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'm not sure I even knew that.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yeah, you might not have any Gary, I need to
come to your house.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And check it out. This is something you guys do it,
mister electric.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Yeah, we installed we can put ground fault breakers in
so you don't have to have the receptacles with the
reset button on them. Okay, sometimes they're convenient in certain
areas so you don't have to go all the way
back to the panel to reset it. Or arc fault
breakers or dual function breakers, which had you know, an
added protection to your home, your electrical system if you

(32:18):
if your home's older than you know, twenty years.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
So just out of curiosity here, if you went into
a situation and you know the first thing and every
time you guys show up, you're always doing a safety
check anyway, Yes, but for somebody who's home you've never
been to, or business for that matter, that's one of
the things you most certainly do. So let's say you're
in a situation you look at a breaker box, you know,
we should probably upgrade this box. I mean, what kind

(32:45):
of cost or we are we talking about for your
average home, the average number of breakers whatever that is
in actually upgrading all those and bring them up to
the proper safety standards for older homes. I mean, what
are we looking at here? Ballpark?

Speaker 7 (32:59):
Yeah, on an average, you're probably looking at you know, six.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Six seven, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's it's six or seven dollars. That's a great deal.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yes, you know six to seven thousand, you know for
a service.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Change thousands Okay, yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
So you may you know, it depends on where you're
what you're doing on the home. So services can you
know they can do about the whole nine yards I'm
talking about. Yeah, we were talking about moving, putting the meter,
you know, uh, replacing the meter, putting a disconnect out
there on the outside of the house. A lot of
houses don't have that. Now if you're building a new home,
it's required now running a new service line because indoor

(33:41):
panel has become a subpanel.

Speaker 8 (33:43):
You know.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
But I don't want to confuse customers. Just that's more
of what we do. That's something you don't want to
try really be doing on your own. I would think
you would definitely call us out.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, and let us.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Evaluate, almost like a rewiring of a whole property. It
sounds like, you.

Speaker 7 (33:59):
Know, you're not rewiring the house. You're just you're doing
the service. So you're replacing the service on the house.
So you're moving the panel. If it's not in a
good location, you know, in the bottom of a closet,
you're moving it to a different location inside the home.
I always recommend having your panel inside your home, just
because of our temperature fluctuations.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Like we were discussing here.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Some caversity one that wasn't but you know, I guess
it does happen.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's you know, in some cases,
maybe maybe it's not economical for you to move it
inside the house.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
And that's fine, but just due to temperature control.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Sure, oh it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
No humidity, no condensation getting in them.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
It seems like a real potential issue to me to
have a panel outside the house. Yeah, you know, I mean, okay,
it's got the metal door on it, but still, I
mean a lot of elements out there, you don't Okay, fascinating,
All right, Well, there's a again we're talking about going
way out and doing all these things. But typically you
show up a safety check you Yeah, then maybe a

(35:00):
few things here or there need to be done. So
it's a good it's a good it's about your safety, Yeah,
a safety check. Yeah, you should.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
You should definitely have somebody check out, you know, an
electrician check out your system every now and then, uh,
to just point out some things just for you know,
if there's anything there that you need to address that
you may not be aware of just because you're not
an electrician. Sure, it's a good thing to have electrician
come out and maybe do a safety check on your house,

(35:27):
you know, once every couple years or so, and or
every year for that matter, but at least every two
or three years.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
That stuff as always mister Electric, Jeremy, How today? How
to folks get a hold of you guys, whether it's
just for a routine or an emergency.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
Well, Gary, they can reach us at eight zero three
eight six eight four to two four three, or they
can find us online at mister Electric dot com forward
slash Columbia.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
All right, buddy, hey, stay warm out there if you can.

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Speaker 1 (37:51):
We're joined by Summer from Beaver Roofing and Gutters. We
want to talk about roofing today, but we want to
kind of maybe go a little bit of different angle
to start things with the Summer, and that is, you know,
the insurance aspect of all of that, and then and
that that that whole angle, and let's talk about you know,
how all this works if you've had some roof damage.
I mean, we you know, we we we hope it

(38:12):
doesn't happen to you. But yeah, when it does, like
I always say, because I talk about y'all all the
time during the week and you know, and just as
an aside here and we're not gonna name names, okay,
but there are roofing companies out there that don't do
roof for pairs, biggest flat don't do them, then there
are I think I mentioned this to you a while back.

(38:34):
I got an email from a listener. Oh gosh, this
was Thanksgiving a year ago where we had had a
storm and it ripped his satellite dish off the roof,
which caused him. It wasn't a lot of damage, but
just just a little bit. Unfortunately, he didn't call you
guys first. He called another local roofing company and they

(38:55):
told him that it would be three months before they
could get to them.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Right, what's that which is it's crazy? You know, when
when they put a satellite dishes on the roofs, they're
actually they're taking screws, so they're going through deckings. So
when that comes off or it's ripped off, that's exposing
the inside of your home to water and put you know,
elements that can you know, harm the home and if

(39:25):
it keeps getting water, getting water, it could cause rot
and more damage. Then you know what, we'll just go
in there, make that little repair done, right, so you
know that small you know damage could could potentially be devastating.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
So but but he called you guys then right away
told me in the email you guys got out to
them within like twenty four hours. You had it fixed quickly,
and you know, you knew anything that ever happened.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
So that's exactly what we like to hear. And that's
you know, we like to handle business that way. You know,
we we wouldn't want our own to be like that.
So we do try to treat all of our customers
as you know, family and friends. So and that's exactly
what you are after you deal with us. So we
you know, we like to provide give those types of
services to the to the community.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
So let's talk about the insurance angle here, because that
could be a little confusing for folks. You know, homeotors
policies these days. I mean, when's the last time anybody
really read theirs right.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Exactly? There are all kinds of words and line items
and everything else that you know, u's lay people don't
aren't very sure about so you know, I'll tell you
a lot of times people don't even realize that, hey,
I have damage until we get a hard rain. And

(40:43):
like you said, we haven't had any you know, recent
wind or hail or anything along those lines that may
cause those types of damages to our roof. However, we
notice that we have those damages when we get these
hard rains and things of that nature. So or you know,
you're seeing them in the on the ground and that
sort of thing. But you know, we get a hard

(41:04):
rain and you're like, oh my gosh, I've got a
stain in my on my feeling. So that's when you're like,
oh my goodness, maybe I should call somebody, so they
call us out. Whenever we come out for any type
of inspection that sort of thing, we're gonna get up
on that roof. We're going to take a look at
your shingles. We're gonna look for those type of weather patterns, hail,

(41:27):
hail hits, hail impacts on your shingles. We're gonna look
for the wind folds in the shingles and that sort
of thing. And you know, I'll tell you one or
two here and there. Insurance is not going to say, oh,
you need a brand new roof. You know, it has
to be a significant amount of impact from the weather

(41:51):
for insurance to say yes, we'll go ahead and cover this.
We'll get you guys a new roof. So that's what
we're doing. When we're going up on your roof, we're evaluating.
We're gonna look. We're looking to see if yeah, you
probably do have a claim here or it's not that significant.
You know, we can do a small repair and get

(42:11):
you taken care of. So, you know, that's the main
thing that people tend to ask, well, what do I do?
How do I go about it? That sort of thing.
So the main thing is, let us come out, Let
us take a look first, because you don't want to
call the insurance company and do all of that type
of thing before you know if you have significant damage

(42:32):
or there are you know, a claims for them to
come out to take a look at. So step one,
give us a call, we'll come out, we'll evaluate.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
You talked a bit of a moment ago about maybe
you have damage that maybe you've had it for for
months and didn't know it until we got a hard
rain and something. You noticed that spot on the ceiling
and you got an issue. Okay, let's talk about an
insurance standpoint from turns of the stand point of okay,
you don't need a whole new roof, but you do

(43:03):
need some repair work done. Is that covered?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It is covered? However, sometimes you have a deductible. Most
times we all have a deductible on our policies. So
a lot of time the adjuster will come out and say, hey,
we see you have damage. This is what we'll cover,
you know, and they'll cover, say, six hundred dollars of

(43:30):
you know, a repair, damage, whatever have you, and they
have a say they have a deductible of one thousand dollars. Yeah,
so with that being said, they're not going to cover
that repair. But you know, with your larger repairs, say
it's a thirty five hundred dollars repair and you have
a deductible of a thousand, you know, yes, they'll cover

(43:53):
twenty five hundred dollars. You cover that deductible.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
And we've always heard that with insurance companies, not even
so much about the size of the payout, but the
frequency of the payout, and that they will cancel people's
policies just because they have too many claims. They're claim happy.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
They think absolutely. So that's why we always like to say, hey,
let us come out first and let us take a look,
right because like you said, there is not everybody is
like this, but there are some who are claim happy
and and they're just nope, nope, nope. You know, they're
just they're shutting them down left and right. So that

(44:33):
we just like to come out take a look. We're
gonna we're on your side. You know, we're not out
there to get every like you said, we do repairs.
We don't have to get a full roof every single time.
We're not out there to do that. We're out here,
We're honest, we're gonna let you know, yeah you got
some damage, there's a there's a good cause for you
to call them out, have an adjuster, come out. And

(44:55):
you know, with that being said, we're happy to come
out and kind of be your advocate because like you said,
they don't always want to you know, cover these repair,
cover a roof replacement. But that's you know, that's why
we like to be out there with the adjuster. We're
going to that for you. Hey, take a look at this,

(45:17):
Take a look at this. This is what I'm seeing
because they know the homeowner isn't going to get on
top of that roof with them or you know, look
at these photos or know even what they're looking for exactly.
So you know, we're we're there to help help you,
advocate for you, and you know, just to be a
be a good buffer between homeowner and adjuster. And we're

(45:41):
here to help. So you know, whenever we say, hey, yep,
give them a call, we always like to be there
to help advocate for you when that adjuster comes.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Okay, and I guess what it's all said and done
is up to the adjuster, right, but you can put
a little pressure on there and show the evidence.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I guess exactly exactly. And that's that is exactly what.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
We will do.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Like you said, we're going about. We're going about for you.
We take all kinds of photos. We go inside the
attics and show, hey, this is where damage was, this
is where the leak is, all sorts of things like that.
You know, there are different things that they're looking for
in reports and things along those lines. They're looking for. Impacts,
they're looking for or when I say impacts, how many

(46:26):
times say hail hit in a certain area of your roof.
They're counting those those hits. They're counting the times that
shingles have folded back and in that area as well.
So we are we we know what they're looking for.
And you know, if we think it's just cause we're
there for you to help you.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So hypothetical scenario here summer, Sure, you we have a hailstorm,
you don't notice the media impacts the damage. Maybe maybe
let's just say it's three months later, suddenly you see
that staying on the roof yep, And you guys go out,
you take a look, and you determine that, yeah, wow,

(47:07):
you had some damage. And I guess you can kind
of get a feel for maybe how long ago that one. Well,
obviously it was a hail story, and you know we
haven't had one in three months. It's you know, you
got this damage at least three months ago. But exactly
so now you get the insurance company involved, is there
a scenario where they say, well, yeah, but that was
three months ago you should have taken care of it.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Generally?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
No, okay, good because here was a homeowner. Until you
see the evidence, how you're.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Gonna know right exactly exactly because you don't, I mean
you don't really know until you see it. Until we
get a super hard rain. Obviously when the hail, when
it's hailing it we are generally having bad weather. But
water doesn't you know, it just water travels in the
wildest ways. So yeah, we're there for you, and no,

(47:58):
the insurance should not get you any pushbacks if it warrants,
you know, if there were enough impacts and things of
that nature. It can't just be one two hail hits
and oh, yeah you need a brand new room. They yeah,
that is when they would give us some pushback. No,

(48:19):
it's not warranted. We'll do a repair in this area,
things of that nature, and it may not even be
from the hail why it's leaking. So there's a there
are a multitude of different scenarios and whatnot that could happen.
But time wise, no, it's you know, three months, six months.

(48:39):
They shouldn't give you any pushback on that.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
No, sir, Okay, good to know, and I listen. I'll
talk about insurance companies like they're had to rob you.
And many of them do very you know, good work
and they're upstanding absolutely, but as a homeowner, you know,
it gets frustrating because you're paying those premiums every year
and you expect not to get any hasshole, right, but
the noise work that way.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
A course, you're exactly right, And you know, just navigating
an insurance claim or anything along those lines can be
really confusing if you've never done it before and you're like,
I don't know what to do. I'm not sure you know,
So that we do this often. We do it with
a multitude of different insurance carriers too, so we are

(49:22):
very familiar with the process and how each carrier kind
of handles different scenarios and documentation and things of that nature.
So you know, we're very familiar with the process, even
though it can be so unfamiliar to homeowners. So that's
why we were here along the whole way.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
And I know, I'm sure it varies from insurer to
ensure a summer, but do you find when you work
with these insurance companies that they pretty much they have
kind of an algorithm. I mean, Okay, we have to
have this much damage or this much of the roof
with an issue before we'll say yeah, will accept a
claim for a roof replacement? Or is that? Does that?

(50:03):
Does that vary from situation situation.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Uh, not necessarily, You're you're right, you know, they are
looking for a certain amount of you know, impacts damage
in a in a I guess, like a square okay
area ten by ten square area of your roof, you know,
and it's if they see, you know, more significant on

(50:27):
the front than on the back. You know, it really
just depends on the amount, you know, that's what it is.
And that square area on the front, on the back,
on the side, they're looking, they're evaluating the whole thing.
So but they're generally all the same, okay. Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Well, So again the point being, uh, you'll be there
to advocate for the homeowner with the ad shows up,
so you don't have to feel like you're on your
own with this thing. And because again you don't have
the right questions to ask or with the answers you're
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Terrific summer. You have yourself great weekend. We'll talk soon.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Take care you too.

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