August 22, 2016 • 26 mins
In this special minisode, Karen and Georgia read your hometown murder stories that include a prophetic child, a heroic dog, the Easter Sunday Massacre, and more. They're all succinct and horrifying!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
I just want to watch if you want to get
to keep this. It's so cute.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, were watching the Couch at George's house and with that, Hi,
welcome to My Favorite Murder the Hometown Mini Edition.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's a prize prise.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We just read some of the emails you guys have
sent us telling us your hometown murders.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Because they're so good and plentiful.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
There's probably one hundred billion, yeah, I think in our
Gmail right now at least. So we're really trying to
chip away at these. So we're dropping a mini.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Episode for you. Yeah, so so we.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Can just at least get some of these reds.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We're just trying to catalog these and get them out,
get them out in the open.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Everybody's got a murder story they want to tell.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, and you can do that by email us at
my Favorite Murder at Gmail. Make it interesting, write it out,
don't put a link of like some random wiki page.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No more, I would say, no more than eight paragraphs,
probably short.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Of the better.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
If you're good at grammar, great, all right, let's we
need Those are all the tips you're gonna get?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, that's all we can tell.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You want me to go first, sure, because this one
is from Eva and she says, this is my Hometown
Murder paranormal edition.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You know we like those.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Hello, ladies, I've been gleefully binging on your podcast that
was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago on
the last.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Podcast on the left page. Yay, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nice, thanks, guys. I'm so glad they did, so, are we.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Eva.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is a combination my hometown murder, that being Detroit
at any time of this story, and what I believe
got me into true crime. I was four years old
back in nineteen seventy two, and my dad and uncle
went to a union meeting together. Now, please keep in
mind I was only four and can only remember this
in what I can best explain as flashes and what
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my mother has told me. As we my mom and
I wait at home for my dad to come home.
She's watching TV in the living room and I'm watching
TV in another room, and she tells me that she
hears me scream and start crying, and she runs to
me and she grabs me and asks me what's wrong.
And I point to a family photo of my parents
and I on the wall and tell her I can't
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can't you see my uncle's face is bleeding? Ew?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That just made my arm.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I just got shivers in one arm, which is kind
of a weird fan.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh my god, that's called a heart attack, I think.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh. Oh, well, by you guys, Steven. I love you
the most. That's the secret I've been keeping cold. Wait yeah, okay,
so sorry. Back to Eve's email. So she says, can't
you see my uncle's face is bleeding? Can you creepy
out of a four year old?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
For creepy, creepy, And she said she looks at the
photo and she thinks I'm going insane, And so I
said I, and she said, I sobbed uncontrollably and kept
telling her that my uncle was going to die and
that they were going to throw him in the.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Water in that white car.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Children. She was finally so spooked at what I was trying,
at what I was saying that she said she spanked
me to try to snap snap.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Me out of it. Oh my god, the seventies, the seventies.
But it was her rational thing back then.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, but she also because she was her mom was
trying to snap her out of it, and probably her
mom was so scared at that point that her her
four year old in like adorable baby voice, yeah, being
like blood mommy, blood.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Blood mommy.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
They're gonna kill him, mommy.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So then after the mom spanks her, no, she said
her mom told her that she told her, you can
hit me all you want, but my uncle is still
going to die. This is she specified this in the beginning,
but I didn't read it. It's her mom's the mom's brother.
Oh my god, I was wondering that that was my
editorial where I was like, that doesn't matter, and of
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course it's a key element to the story. Okay, back
in his email. Finally, my dad gets home and my
mother explains what happened. My dad said to her, you're
going to believe that. So she asked him, asks him
to please go back to the bar where they were
after the meeting to make sure he's okay. My uncle
and his family did not have a home phone. Don't
ask me why, that's just nuts.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
The seventies. So the seventies.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So my dad goes back, comes home and tells my
mom that he was not there anymore and he probably
went home. A few hours later, my mother gets a
call from my grandfather, who's at the hospital and tells
her to please go right away. My uncle has been
shot in the face and he was already brain dead.
Comes say goodbye. Turns out there was an ugly union
related argument. My uncle was the union rep. They shot
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him and they were going to dispose of his body
via a white car when they all got caught.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Now both my arms have chills. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
There always said that she had not believed my father.
That had had she not told my father, nobody would
have ever believed her. I only remember, like I said
in flashes, for some reason, I do remember that I
was watching Lassie, Thank you Stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Best advice ever eva.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like, did the parents ever love her again? Probably not well.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They were definitely scared of her after yeah, and gave
her whatever she appened totally.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It's like that one Twilight Zone episode. Yes, yeah, I
or like they have to appease them.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
To the little kid or he'll make you go away. Yeah,
that's right. That is so creepy. I love it, buy it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I also want to know did she ever have any
visions after that too? Now I want to go into
the whole Paranormal podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You could do a paranormal episode. That's a great idea.
Let's do that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh hold, I'm really sorry, but I just Sonny Meal
that said. Oh one more thing that's exciting. Oh wait,
this says this starts Hell Ladies. A couple more quick stories.
It might be too long. Okay, you know what though,
it's two paragraphs. Okay, all right, Eva, this is all
about you today. Just a couple quick stories. I have
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belonged to true crime groups for as long as I
can remember. Eventually I became friends with Carl Suckcliffe, brother
of Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, who eventually became my
prison pen pal, until I felt really weird about thinking
of him as a friend like that way and cut
him off, cut off communication. All right, Eva, you're on
the razor's edge right now.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Any who.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Carl told me that at the time of the Yorkshire
Ripper murders, he was in his teens, his brother Peter
being his senior by over ten years. Well, Carl had
this girlfriend and he would always ask Peter to please
give her rite home.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh shit, oh my god, so that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
The Ripper wouldn't get her. Not knowing he just put
her in the car with the ripper himself. Another story
is about my friend Jimmy's boy Scout troop trip to
a fun house here in Chicago. He said that boys
were being boys and pushing and shoving the people dressed
up to scare the people in the funhouse and running
around and such, and he pushed his clown and the
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clown grabbed him and said, you little motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I ought to kill you, and let him go.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He is convinced it was John Wayne Gacy at that
carnival because it was being sponsored by the Jacs. Who
John Wayne Gacy belonged to?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
WHOA oh for sure him? And then she just said,
I have a few more stories, but I don't want
to bombard No. Shoot, she done good.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, Eva, you delivered on every sage to one of
those stories.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You did not get on Karen's shit list.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, you're number one.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well done.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That was great, great job Eva. Okay, this one's by Aubrey.
It's called the subject was my dog helped catch a murderer? Yes, okay,
my hometown murderer. I always skip the nice stuff. What
does that say about me that I don't that you?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, we don't want to come off as like congratulatory,
but it's so nice gradulatory, but it is really nice
and it's what they wrote.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It is, that's what they wrote, and it's nice. And
I don't want people to think I don't want them.
I don't want people to think that they didn't. They
just started with their anyways, right. My hometown murder happened
in nineteen ninety nine when I was eight years old
in Race Sceine, Wisconsin, which is about halfway between Milwaukee
and Chicago on Lake Michigan. She can't remember any of
the names, and she apologizes, but I swear this happened.
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My sister and I were playing in our backyard in
June of ninety nine. We lived in town. We lived
in town. To our yard in our neighbor's yard were
only separated by a four foot chain link fence. Suddenly,
a man wearing only boxer shorts and carrying a knife
ran into my neighbor's yard from the alley, followed by
two police officers. The officers yelled at my sister and
me to get in the house and lock the doors.
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My two sister, my two sisters ran, but of course
I froze in fear, and she says, or now, knowing
my interest in murder, maybe I froze with intrigue. Yeah,
I'm going with that. During the commotion, the man in
the boxers attempted to jump over the chain link fence
into our yard.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
However, are usually docile.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Harm almost black lab Max attacked the man's foot and
he decided to jump over the fence to the front
yard instead.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't want to know what would happened if that
man made it into my yard where I stood paralyzed.
The police managed to detain him in the street in
front of our house. After their ordeal, they came back
to our front door and explain the situation. It turns
out this guy had raped and murdered his ex girlfriend
and her fifteen year old daughter. They were found stabbed
to death in their apartment. When the police arrived at
his house to arrest him, he wasn't there and couldn't
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be found for months. When they found him, he was
camped out in the woods near my house, woods that
my twelve year old sister walked past alone every day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No to get to and from school.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
When they found yeah, the woods man, the woods chop
down all the woods.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Am I wrong? Yes? Okay, good to know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
When they found him he was a solutional you're just
trying to solve the problem. I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
When they found him, he ran and thus entered nonded
up my neighbor's yard.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And just to make the story even better.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
When Max attacked this guy's leg, he bit him so
hard that he broke his ankle. Good boy, Yes, and
the guy couldn't run anymore. The police wanted to meet
our dog to formally thank him for his service. Max
got a Honorary Police Dog Award, which I'm sure they
just made up.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
On the spot, but it was still sweet. Are you
gonna cry?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Maybe I need to eat some protein. I'm obviously having
big feelings about everything I'm hearing today, but chills and tears,
kills and tears and yeah, and then I am sweating. Yeah,
it's all of the all the temperatures. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Good boy, Max.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
She laid eyes on that murderer.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, I wonder if she hadn't been if she had
run in with her scaredy cat sisters, she wouldn't have
seen it for her own two eyes.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Girl, What I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's why you always stay and watch always always be
a gocker.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's a good one that reminds me of that, like
herb legend where like the people come home and the
dog's choking?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Do you ever hear that one?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Should we just do this?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And this is well, this one I heard I remember
hearing like a camp or whatever, but like the lady
comes home. It's of course it's a big long tale
about how they live way up.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
In the mountain. Wait, is he choking on a hand? Yes?
You heard it? I guess I have fingers. Yeah, yes,
I guess I've heard it. Yeah. I don't know why
where that came from?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, it could be you know why, because it's like
the tale's oldest time.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But you know what I do want to do?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Can we one day do an themed episode of of
urban legends that are like where they came from, like
that they're in fiction in fact?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Can we do like what the original story is based on?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, that's a murder? Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
There is a really awesome it's a it's a like
a cartoon compilation. It's called there. It was a series
and so it was like the Big Book of So
it's like the Big book in the seventies is a
big book of and one of them is the Big
Book of Urban Legends. Who so they have writers teamed
up with comic book artists and then they'll draw out
all the urban legends. When I read this book, my family,
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they're like half of the book was families don't kill
Garret family stories, or I was.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like, oh my god, my aunt Jo told me, oh
my god, my uncle like things that your family has
told you is true.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's always like our next door neighbor, because everybody get
loves a good story, like sitting around whatever. But it was,
I mean every page I Journer was like, I heard
this one about the people that get the chihuahua in
Mexico and bring it home. Ohnea, get across the border
because they find a little lost chihuahua in Mexico that's
so cute, and when they come home and then they
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take it to the vet and it's a rat closed
legend that's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But so it's kind of real.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's like enough real of like this happened to our
neighbor's front.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Do you know that I'm the kind of person that
if someone told me that story, I would argue with
them that they were wrong, Like someone tells a story
to party, I'm like, bullshit, bullshit, Like I just don't
even let them have it. Fucking that's so stupid. How
would that happen?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And then they're like, I guess you're I guess you're right,
and then they don't want to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You're right at the end of the day, Yes, I
I guess we shouldn't have fun.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Georgia shouldn't be invited to her own parties to all right,
ready for this?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, this is from Christine. Seriously, guys, read this. It's
a grandparent murder and it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I'll immediately read it. High ladies.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
First off, I'd like to say absolutely lovely podcast. And
I've binge listened to the first ten episodes within three days.
And I hope you include my crazy, disturbing hometown murder story.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
In an upcoming one. Oh thank you? Yes, what Christine?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
My name is Christine and I live in Should I
say New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Which is your classic?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I name?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
She named the town? But maybe we don't. I don't know.
It's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's hard to say if we should say it, or
it's hard to say the town is hard to say, oh.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
No, no, it's easy to say, oh like you shouldn't
be specific, but I can say it because she included it,
right Like if that's I didn't say her last name,
I don't understand what kind of privacy people want.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I feel like if they don't put at the end,
please don't use my name in this, or please don't
use my town, or please don't use the name.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'll change the names of the victims.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
She's like first and last name and town and the
whole let's.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Say town, not last names. In audusts.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
My name's Christine and I live in Lambertville, New Jersey,
which is your classic small town picture, oh picture, lots
of Victorian houses and nice old people who like antiques. Anyway,
my high school was really small, less than fifty kids
in a grade small and included a middle school. In
seventh grade, I was friends with a kid named Ezra
Simon Daniels, who was a little odd but definitely not
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sociopath level odd at the time. We hung out with
a group of about ten kids for a couple of years,
and then in high school, Ezra moved out of our
school district and I never spoke to him again. Fast
forward to my sophomore year of college, just a few
months ago, and a friend of mine from home calls
and asks if I heard what Ezra did. I hadn't,
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so I promptly googled it. Turns out he called the
cops from a Walmart fifteen minutes from my house at
time five am and told him he was covered in
blood and didn't know why or how he ended up
in the Walmart parking lot in the first place. Oh.
Then they took him back to his home where he
lived with his grandparents, and they found the grandparents laying
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in their bed bludgeoned to death with an aluminum baseball bat.
Oh no, it beaten so badly that they had to
pull their dental records to make sure with them.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's them. I promise you it's them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm not sure if ez Are admitted to doing it,
but after reading about it and listening to his nine
one one call, which you can find online if you're
curious or want to play it on the show, Nope, Christine,
stop it to neither of those. I suspect that he
was on some sort of extreme drugs and killed them
and doesn't remember doing it good.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Guess.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I can't believe I was friends with a grandparent murderer
in middle school. You never really know who's going to
lose it one day, you don't. It's gonna be one
of us. It's so true. The odds are in our favor.
I hope you guys enjoyed this super fucked up story.
Keep making awesome episodes. Have an awesome day, Christine, Thank
you too, Christine. That was that was well written, talked,
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well told, to the point, succinct, horrifying.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Everything we won wants from well done A plus. Can
I should I read one?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay, do you want hmmm? No, I'll come and do
this one all right? This is by Chiselle.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Okay, I'm sure you're getting a supermodel. Yes, okay, she
listens Gray she's a fan of Hi. I'm sure you're
getting some crazy stories.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But I kind of like this one because it happened
right next to my best friend's home, where she slept
soundly in her bed. I am from Victoria, BC in Canada,
British Columbia, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's a fairly small city,
but I wouldn't say it. It's a fairly small city,
but I wouldn't say it's a small town. People don't
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get murdered very often here. One guy freaked out one
night and killed his son, his estranged wife, both her parents,
and then himself by stabbing them. The thing that made
the situation really crazy besides that is that is that
the same night, on the same night, one of the
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local high schools Okay, it was the same night as
one of the local high school's grad camp out. Basically
the day before school starts, all the grade twelves will
hang out and random parts of the city, moving around
like pot like a pot of whales, drinking and causing
a ruckuses. Due to the number of calls that the
grad camp out was getting, the police didn't respond to
the noise complaints coming from the neighborhood of the family.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That was being murdered.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
She wrote, My friends also lived next door to the
family and subsequently had to go to therapy afterwards because
her mom was afraid that she could hear the murders
happening through her open bedroom window while she slept and
it had infiltrated her mind.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh no, anyways, I hope you enjoyed this. Just how.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Levels layers totally get that thing just kept giving, that
kept and kept. But you know what's funny, I understand
that woman who heads that fear, who what like the
woman who has the fear that she somehow subconsciously absorbed
horrible things and just isn't aware.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
No, I don't think that's Do you think that can happen?
I don't know. I don't think. Well, you're sleeping.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I mean, who knows, But like it's why I want
to stop falling asleep in front the TV. Book Oh yeah,
because God knows what's going in there, totally terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, do you notice that when you have it?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Like sometimes you dream shit that's so obvious things that
you saw that day, Like, yes, you know there's that
new fucking Scully movie with Tom Hanks, so about the
guy who crash landed in the Hudson, which looks so stupid.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And I had like such.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Obvious like water crash airplane dreams last night because you
saw that billboard. I saw the yeah, the trailer, oh
oh yeah, which is like that's so boring.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yes, so let's make.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It uncreative conscious to serve that up till it's right there. Well,
uh yeah, keep it, keep it to just your teeth
falling out or.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Weird at the school.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, horror movies, the basics.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, do you want to read one more? Sure? This
one's from Beverly.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It says, Hi, Georgia and Karen, my name is Beverly
and I'm from the Hamilton County, Cincinnati. She gets right
into it. She's not complimenting anybody. She's got a story
to tell. I respect you, Beverly. The county I live
in is so small, we have no history of murders. However,
the town of Hamilton, in the county north of mind
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Butler is famous for the deadliest shooting inside of private residence,
the Easter Sunday massacre.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh that sounds fun. Loving it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
On Easter Sunday nineteen seventy five, James Ruppert killed his mother,
his older brother, his older brother's wife, and his brother's
eight children.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Hyar took a terrible left hand. Oh.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
No one really knows why he shot all of them,
as there was never really a motive aside from him
simply hating his mother and brother, though some think he
may have been envious of his brother, as at the
time of the murders, James forty one was still living
with his mother drinking heavily and had trouble holding down
a job. By all accounts, his child childhood was terrible.
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His mother wished he had been born female.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh, that's always bad.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And his father was incredibly violent.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Also bad.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
When he was twelve, his father died and his older
brother took over the role of father, including the violence
towards James. Oh no, he's currently serving two life sentences
at a correctional institute in Lima, Ohio. Also, if you're interested,
there is a current murder investigation in Pike County, hownies
over from me. Everything is based on where Beverly lives,
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which is awesome. Where eight members of the Rodin family
were found dead in four different houses. Three were adjacent
while the other two were a bit further away. There
have been no arrests, but during the investigation the police
found marijuana and cock fighting operations in the three adjacent houses.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The fuck.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You'll be happy to know that while the killer was
fairly remorseless in the killings, all victims were shot multiple times.
They left, Oh thank god, a three year old, six
month old and a four day old five though the
four day old was found in the same bed as
her dead mother. So yeah, oh, here's the link. If
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you want to know more, I guess what, don't want
to know anymore? But Beverly again a beautifully written male.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That had to be again like a murder, like a
murder about drug money. Yeah, crime involved mafia esque. If
you don't kill the kids, although you kill the you
killed the woman, the wife, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
True, but maybe she was involved. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh yeah, that's I like the story of the person
that doesn't kill three incredibly young children. Yeah, me too,
and instead just orphans them. What just ruins? They're choosing
one of the I also like when you said.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
When they were like like to wish it was born
a girl, and you're like, that's bad. And then when
you said also he was abusive, he said that's bad too.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Just like clarify that, like you weren't being like one
was worse than the other. That's right, I mean, it's
all bad. Yeah. Also, that's a classic turn.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think that turn is the perfect example of what
it's like to be into true crime. When you're like, ooh,
the Easter Sunday massacre. Ooh yeah, and then when you
immediately get into eight children are dead, like all of that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Ooh is gone. I didn't want that to happen. It's
not what I was looking for. A have a I haven't?
Should we end on?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
An?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I survived? Sure?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
God, I got cat hair all the first person. It's
not my survived. It's like a can you believe? Let's
see here all right? So oh no, okay, so Bree
wrote on the Facebook page, lots of drama today, So
let's lighten the mood and talk about how I almost
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got murdered.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Okay? Love it great?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So when I was four years old, my parents and
I lived in a tiny duplex in a small California
mountaintown by Yosemite called Mariposa. So the year is nineteen
ninety three, and my mom and I are home alone
one morning. All my dad is at work, being the
early nineties in all, she was in the shower and
I was sitting on the couch watching cartoons. The large
window above the couch was wide open. A man, maybe
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in his forties, walked up to the window and started
talking to me. Here's the conversation of the best of
my recollection.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Hi, how are you.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Doing you watching cartoons? Where's your mommy? She's in the shower. Oh,
she is is your daddy home? Nope, it's just me
and mommy. Oh oh, okay, can I come in and
watch cartoons with you? I don't think I'm allowed. It's okay,
I know your mommy. Okay, hold on. I walk over
to the door to unlock it. I'm able to reach
and unlock the doorknob, but the dead bolt is slightly
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higher and I was a very tiny kid, so I
couldn't reach it. All the while, he's at the window
peering in, watching me, trying to get the lock open. Finally,
I say I can't reach it. Let me go get mommy.
Uh let's see, and he says, oh no, that's okay, bye, sweetie,
and he ran off. And then my mom got out
of the shower a few minutes later, and I told
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her she remembered how I remember how white her face turned,
and that's why I've always been thankful for being short.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I did the same thing, but I.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Let the person in no, and we sat on the
couch and talked no, yep, and my mom was He
didn't know my mom was home sick from work that day.
We were both home sick. And when I told him,
I still remember him going because my mom goes, Georgia,
who's here from the from upstairs? And he I can
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remember him going like panicking and leaving no way. Yeah,
and he gave me like a friendship bracelet. He was
clearly gonna murder me.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh my god. Yeah, he said he was a daughter
or salesman.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He looked like now he looked like an out of
work actor in his best suit at least, which wasn't great. Yeah,
looking back, I almost got murdered. Yeah, yeah, Brie, I
feel you. Thank you for that story. Oh my god,
that was a good story, she said, Baby Sexy didn't
get baby murdered.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh my god, sitting in front of an open window
and having some goddamn hobo walk up. Yeah, and you're
the pie. No, wow, that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's crazy. Is that our Is that our mini? I
think that's our minisode? Murder minisod.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I was really satisfying. Great job, everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Send us more and like make the subject line really
great and that we will open and read it or
don't because we're still going.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
To read it anyways. Yeah, that's true. Thanks for listening
to the murder minisode.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well done, Stay Sexy, don't get murdered, Bye Babe,
I just want to watch if you want to get
to keep this. It's so cute.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, were watching the Couch at George's house and with that, Hi,
welcome to My Favorite Murder the Hometown Mini Edition.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's a prize prise.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We just read some of the emails you guys have
sent us telling us your hometown murders.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Because they're so good and plentiful.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
There's probably one hundred billion, yeah, I think in our
Gmail right now at least. So we're really trying to
chip away at these. So we're dropping a mini.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Episode for you. Yeah, so so we.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Can just at least get some of these reds.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We're just trying to catalog these and get them out,
get them out in the open.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Everybody's got a murder story they want to tell.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, and you can do that by email us at
my Favorite Murder at Gmail. Make it interesting, write it out,
don't put a link of like some random wiki page.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No more, I would say, no more than eight paragraphs,
probably short.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Of the better.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
If you're good at grammar, great, all right, let's we
need Those are all the tips you're gonna get?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, that's all we can tell.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You want me to go first, sure, because this one
is from Eva and she says, this is my Hometown
Murder paranormal edition.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You know we like those.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Hello, ladies, I've been gleefully binging on your podcast that
was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago on
the last.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Podcast on the left page. Yay, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nice, thanks, guys. I'm so glad they did, so, are we.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Eva.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is a combination my hometown murder, that being Detroit
at any time of this story, and what I believe
got me into true crime. I was four years old
back in nineteen seventy two, and my dad and uncle
went to a union meeting together. Now, please keep in
mind I was only four and can only remember this
in what I can best explain as flashes and what
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my mother has told me. As we my mom and
I wait at home for my dad to come home.
She's watching TV in the living room and I'm watching
TV in another room, and she tells me that she
hears me scream and start crying, and she runs to
me and she grabs me and asks me what's wrong.
And I point to a family photo of my parents
and I on the wall and tell her I can't
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can't you see my uncle's face is bleeding? Ew?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That just made my arm.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I just got shivers in one arm, which is kind
of a weird fan.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh my god, that's called a heart attack, I think.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh. Oh, well, by you guys, Steven. I love you
the most. That's the secret I've been keeping cold. Wait yeah, okay,
so sorry. Back to Eve's email. So she says, can't
you see my uncle's face is bleeding? Can you creepy
out of a four year old?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
For creepy, creepy, And she said she looks at the
photo and she thinks I'm going insane, And so I
said I, and she said, I sobbed uncontrollably and kept
telling her that my uncle was going to die and
that they were going to throw him in the.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Water in that white car.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Children. She was finally so spooked at what I was trying,
at what I was saying that she said she spanked
me to try to snap snap.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Me out of it. Oh my god, the seventies, the seventies.
But it was her rational thing back then.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, but she also because she was her mom was
trying to snap her out of it, and probably her
mom was so scared at that point that her her
four year old in like adorable baby voice, yeah, being
like blood mommy, blood.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Blood mommy.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
They're gonna kill him, mommy.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So then after the mom spanks her, no, she said
her mom told her that she told her, you can
hit me all you want, but my uncle is still
going to die. This is she specified this in the beginning,
but I didn't read it. It's her mom's the mom's brother.
Oh my god, I was wondering that that was my
editorial where I was like, that doesn't matter, and of
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course it's a key element to the story. Okay, back
in his email. Finally, my dad gets home and my
mother explains what happened. My dad said to her, you're
going to believe that. So she asked him, asks him
to please go back to the bar where they were
after the meeting to make sure he's okay. My uncle
and his family did not have a home phone. Don't
ask me why, that's just nuts.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
The seventies. So the seventies.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So my dad goes back, comes home and tells my
mom that he was not there anymore and he probably
went home. A few hours later, my mother gets a
call from my grandfather, who's at the hospital and tells
her to please go right away. My uncle has been
shot in the face and he was already brain dead.
Comes say goodbye. Turns out there was an ugly union
related argument. My uncle was the union rep. They shot
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him and they were going to dispose of his body
via a white car when they all got caught.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Now both my arms have chills. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
There always said that she had not believed my father.
That had had she not told my father, nobody would
have ever believed her. I only remember, like I said
in flashes, for some reason, I do remember that I
was watching Lassie, Thank you Stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Best advice ever eva.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like, did the parents ever love her again? Probably not well.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They were definitely scared of her after yeah, and gave
her whatever she appened totally.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It's like that one Twilight Zone episode. Yes, yeah, I
or like they have to appease them.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
To the little kid or he'll make you go away. Yeah,
that's right. That is so creepy. I love it, buy it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I also want to know did she ever have any
visions after that too? Now I want to go into
the whole Paranormal podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You could do a paranormal episode. That's a great idea.
Let's do that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh hold, I'm really sorry, but I just Sonny Meal
that said. Oh one more thing that's exciting. Oh wait,
this says this starts Hell Ladies. A couple more quick stories.
It might be too long. Okay, you know what though,
it's two paragraphs. Okay, all right, Eva, this is all
about you today. Just a couple quick stories. I have
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belonged to true crime groups for as long as I
can remember. Eventually I became friends with Carl Suckcliffe, brother
of Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, who eventually became my
prison pen pal, until I felt really weird about thinking
of him as a friend like that way and cut
him off, cut off communication. All right, Eva, you're on
the razor's edge right now.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Any who.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Carl told me that at the time of the Yorkshire
Ripper murders, he was in his teens, his brother Peter
being his senior by over ten years. Well, Carl had
this girlfriend and he would always ask Peter to please
give her rite home.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh shit, oh my god, so that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
The Ripper wouldn't get her. Not knowing he just put
her in the car with the ripper himself. Another story
is about my friend Jimmy's boy Scout troop trip to
a fun house here in Chicago. He said that boys
were being boys and pushing and shoving the people dressed
up to scare the people in the funhouse and running
around and such, and he pushed his clown and the
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clown grabbed him and said, you little motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I ought to kill you, and let him go.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He is convinced it was John Wayne Gacy at that
carnival because it was being sponsored by the Jacs. Who
John Wayne Gacy belonged to?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
WHOA oh for sure him? And then she just said,
I have a few more stories, but I don't want
to bombard No. Shoot, she done good.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, Eva, you delivered on every sage to one of
those stories.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You did not get on Karen's shit list.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, you're number one.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well done.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That was great, great job Eva. Okay, this one's by Aubrey.
It's called the subject was my dog helped catch a murderer? Yes, okay,
my hometown murderer. I always skip the nice stuff. What
does that say about me that I don't that you?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, we don't want to come off as like congratulatory,
but it's so nice gradulatory, but it is really nice
and it's what they wrote.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It is, that's what they wrote, and it's nice. And
I don't want people to think I don't want them.
I don't want people to think that they didn't. They
just started with their anyways, right. My hometown murder happened
in nineteen ninety nine when I was eight years old
in Race Sceine, Wisconsin, which is about halfway between Milwaukee
and Chicago on Lake Michigan. She can't remember any of
the names, and she apologizes, but I swear this happened.
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My sister and I were playing in our backyard in
June of ninety nine. We lived in town. We lived
in town. To our yard in our neighbor's yard were
only separated by a four foot chain link fence. Suddenly,
a man wearing only boxer shorts and carrying a knife
ran into my neighbor's yard from the alley, followed by
two police officers. The officers yelled at my sister and
me to get in the house and lock the doors.
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My two sister, my two sisters ran, but of course
I froze in fear, and she says, or now, knowing
my interest in murder, maybe I froze with intrigue. Yeah,
I'm going with that. During the commotion, the man in
the boxers attempted to jump over the chain link fence
into our yard.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
However, are usually docile.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Harm almost black lab Max attacked the man's foot and
he decided to jump over the fence to the front
yard instead.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't want to know what would happened if that
man made it into my yard where I stood paralyzed.
The police managed to detain him in the street in
front of our house. After their ordeal, they came back
to our front door and explain the situation. It turns
out this guy had raped and murdered his ex girlfriend
and her fifteen year old daughter. They were found stabbed
to death in their apartment. When the police arrived at
his house to arrest him, he wasn't there and couldn't
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be found for months. When they found him, he was
camped out in the woods near my house, woods that
my twelve year old sister walked past alone every day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No to get to and from school.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
When they found yeah, the woods man, the woods chop
down all the woods.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Am I wrong? Yes? Okay, good to know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
When they found him he was a solutional you're just
trying to solve the problem. I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
When they found him, he ran and thus entered nonded
up my neighbor's yard.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And just to make the story even better.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
When Max attacked this guy's leg, he bit him so
hard that he broke his ankle. Good boy, Yes, and
the guy couldn't run anymore. The police wanted to meet
our dog to formally thank him for his service. Max
got a Honorary Police Dog Award, which I'm sure they
just made up.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
On the spot, but it was still sweet. Are you
gonna cry?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Maybe I need to eat some protein. I'm obviously having
big feelings about everything I'm hearing today, but chills and tears,
kills and tears and yeah, and then I am sweating. Yeah,
it's all of the all the temperatures. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Good boy, Max.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
She laid eyes on that murderer.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, I wonder if she hadn't been if she had
run in with her scaredy cat sisters, she wouldn't have
seen it for her own two eyes.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Girl, What I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's why you always stay and watch always always be
a gocker.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's a good one that reminds me of that, like
herb legend where like the people come home and the
dog's choking?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Do you ever hear that one?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Should we just do this?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And this is well, this one I heard I remember
hearing like a camp or whatever, but like the lady
comes home. It's of course it's a big long tale
about how they live way up.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
In the mountain. Wait, is he choking on a hand? Yes?
You heard it? I guess I have fingers. Yeah, yes,
I guess I've heard it. Yeah. I don't know why
where that came from?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, it could be you know why, because it's like
the tale's oldest time.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But you know what I do want to do?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Can we one day do an themed episode of of
urban legends that are like where they came from, like
that they're in fiction in fact?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Can we do like what the original story is based on?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, that's a murder? Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
There is a really awesome it's a it's a like
a cartoon compilation. It's called there. It was a series
and so it was like the Big Book of So
it's like the Big book in the seventies is a
big book of and one of them is the Big
Book of Urban Legends. Who so they have writers teamed
up with comic book artists and then they'll draw out
all the urban legends. When I read this book, my family,
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they're like half of the book was families don't kill
Garret family stories, or I was.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like, oh my god, my aunt Jo told me, oh
my god, my uncle like things that your family has
told you is true.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's always like our next door neighbor, because everybody get
loves a good story, like sitting around whatever. But it was,
I mean every page I Journer was like, I heard
this one about the people that get the chihuahua in
Mexico and bring it home. Ohnea, get across the border
because they find a little lost chihuahua in Mexico that's
so cute, and when they come home and then they
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take it to the vet and it's a rat closed
legend that's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But so it's kind of real.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's like enough real of like this happened to our
neighbor's front.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Do you know that I'm the kind of person that
if someone told me that story, I would argue with
them that they were wrong, Like someone tells a story
to party, I'm like, bullshit, bullshit, Like I just don't
even let them have it. Fucking that's so stupid. How
would that happen?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And then they're like, I guess you're I guess you're right,
and then they don't want to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You're right at the end of the day, Yes, I
I guess we shouldn't have fun.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Georgia shouldn't be invited to her own parties to all right,
ready for this?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, this is from Christine. Seriously, guys, read this. It's
a grandparent murder and it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I'll immediately read it. High ladies.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
First off, I'd like to say absolutely lovely podcast. And
I've binge listened to the first ten episodes within three days.
And I hope you include my crazy, disturbing hometown murder story.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
In an upcoming one. Oh thank you? Yes, what Christine?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
My name is Christine and I live in Should I
say New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Which is your classic?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I name?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
She named the town? But maybe we don't. I don't know.
It's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's hard to say if we should say it, or
it's hard to say the town is hard to say, oh.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
No, no, it's easy to say, oh like you shouldn't
be specific, but I can say it because she included it,
right Like if that's I didn't say her last name,
I don't understand what kind of privacy people want.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I feel like if they don't put at the end,
please don't use my name in this, or please don't
use my town, or please don't use the name.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'll change the names of the victims.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
She's like first and last name and town and the
whole let's.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Say town, not last names. In audusts.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
My name's Christine and I live in Lambertville, New Jersey,
which is your classic small town picture, oh picture, lots
of Victorian houses and nice old people who like antiques. Anyway,
my high school was really small, less than fifty kids
in a grade small and included a middle school. In
seventh grade, I was friends with a kid named Ezra
Simon Daniels, who was a little odd but definitely not
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sociopath level odd at the time. We hung out with
a group of about ten kids for a couple of years,
and then in high school, Ezra moved out of our
school district and I never spoke to him again. Fast
forward to my sophomore year of college, just a few
months ago, and a friend of mine from home calls
and asks if I heard what Ezra did. I hadn't,
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so I promptly googled it. Turns out he called the
cops from a Walmart fifteen minutes from my house at
time five am and told him he was covered in
blood and didn't know why or how he ended up
in the Walmart parking lot in the first place. Oh.
Then they took him back to his home where he
lived with his grandparents, and they found the grandparents laying
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in their bed bludgeoned to death with an aluminum baseball bat.
Oh no, it beaten so badly that they had to
pull their dental records to make sure with them.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's them. I promise you it's them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm not sure if ez Are admitted to doing it,
but after reading about it and listening to his nine
one one call, which you can find online if you're
curious or want to play it on the show, Nope, Christine,
stop it to neither of those. I suspect that he
was on some sort of extreme drugs and killed them
and doesn't remember doing it good.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Guess.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I can't believe I was friends with a grandparent murderer
in middle school. You never really know who's going to
lose it one day, you don't. It's gonna be one
of us. It's so true. The odds are in our favor.
I hope you guys enjoyed this super fucked up story.
Keep making awesome episodes. Have an awesome day, Christine, Thank
you too, Christine. That was that was well written, talked,
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well told, to the point, succinct, horrifying.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Everything we won wants from well done A plus. Can
I should I read one?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay, do you want hmmm? No, I'll come and do
this one all right? This is by Chiselle.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Okay, I'm sure you're getting a supermodel. Yes, okay, she
listens Gray she's a fan of Hi. I'm sure you're
getting some crazy stories.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But I kind of like this one because it happened
right next to my best friend's home, where she slept
soundly in her bed. I am from Victoria, BC in Canada,
British Columbia, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's a fairly small city,
but I wouldn't say it. It's a fairly small city,
but I wouldn't say it's a small town. People don't
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get murdered very often here. One guy freaked out one
night and killed his son, his estranged wife, both her parents,
and then himself by stabbing them. The thing that made
the situation really crazy besides that is that is that
the same night, on the same night, one of the
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local high schools Okay, it was the same night as
one of the local high school's grad camp out. Basically
the day before school starts, all the grade twelves will
hang out and random parts of the city, moving around
like pot like a pot of whales, drinking and causing
a ruckuses. Due to the number of calls that the
grad camp out was getting, the police didn't respond to
the noise complaints coming from the neighborhood of the family.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That was being murdered.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
She wrote, My friends also lived next door to the
family and subsequently had to go to therapy afterwards because
her mom was afraid that she could hear the murders
happening through her open bedroom window while she slept and
it had infiltrated her mind.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh no, anyways, I hope you enjoyed this. Just how.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Levels layers totally get that thing just kept giving, that
kept and kept. But you know what's funny, I understand
that woman who heads that fear, who what like the
woman who has the fear that she somehow subconsciously absorbed
horrible things and just isn't aware.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
No, I don't think that's Do you think that can happen?
I don't know. I don't think. Well, you're sleeping.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I mean, who knows, But like it's why I want
to stop falling asleep in front the TV. Book Oh yeah,
because God knows what's going in there, totally terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, do you notice that when you have it?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Like sometimes you dream shit that's so obvious things that
you saw that day, Like, yes, you know there's that
new fucking Scully movie with Tom Hanks, so about the
guy who crash landed in the Hudson, which looks so stupid.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And I had like such.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Obvious like water crash airplane dreams last night because you
saw that billboard. I saw the yeah, the trailer, oh
oh yeah, which is like that's so boring.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yes, so let's make.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It uncreative conscious to serve that up till it's right there. Well,
uh yeah, keep it, keep it to just your teeth
falling out or.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Weird at the school.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, horror movies, the basics.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, do you want to read one more? Sure? This
one's from Beverly.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It says, Hi, Georgia and Karen, my name is Beverly
and I'm from the Hamilton County, Cincinnati. She gets right
into it. She's not complimenting anybody. She's got a story
to tell. I respect you, Beverly. The county I live
in is so small, we have no history of murders. However,
the town of Hamilton, in the county north of mind
(19:48):
Butler is famous for the deadliest shooting inside of private residence,
the Easter Sunday massacre.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh that sounds fun. Loving it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
On Easter Sunday nineteen seventy five, James Ruppert killed his mother,
his older brother, his older brother's wife, and his brother's
eight children.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Hyar took a terrible left hand. Oh.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
No one really knows why he shot all of them,
as there was never really a motive aside from him
simply hating his mother and brother, though some think he
may have been envious of his brother, as at the
time of the murders, James forty one was still living
with his mother drinking heavily and had trouble holding down
a job. By all accounts, his child childhood was terrible.
(20:35):
His mother wished he had been born female.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh, that's always bad.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And his father was incredibly violent.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Also bad.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
When he was twelve, his father died and his older
brother took over the role of father, including the violence
towards James. Oh no, he's currently serving two life sentences
at a correctional institute in Lima, Ohio. Also, if you're interested,
there is a current murder investigation in Pike County, hownies
over from me. Everything is based on where Beverly lives,
(21:03):
which is awesome. Where eight members of the Rodin family
were found dead in four different houses. Three were adjacent
while the other two were a bit further away. There
have been no arrests, but during the investigation the police
found marijuana and cock fighting operations in the three adjacent houses.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The fuck.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You'll be happy to know that while the killer was
fairly remorseless in the killings, all victims were shot multiple times.
They left, Oh thank god, a three year old, six
month old and a four day old five though the
four day old was found in the same bed as
her dead mother. So yeah, oh, here's the link. If
(21:47):
you want to know more, I guess what, don't want
to know anymore? But Beverly again a beautifully written male.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That had to be again like a murder, like a
murder about drug money. Yeah, crime involved mafia esque. If
you don't kill the kids, although you kill the you
killed the woman, the wife, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
True, but maybe she was involved. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh yeah, that's I like the story of the person
that doesn't kill three incredibly young children. Yeah, me too,
and instead just orphans them. What just ruins? They're choosing
one of the I also like when you said.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
When they were like like to wish it was born
a girl, and you're like, that's bad. And then when
you said also he was abusive, he said that's bad too.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Just like clarify that, like you weren't being like one
was worse than the other. That's right, I mean, it's
all bad. Yeah. Also, that's a classic turn.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think that turn is the perfect example of what
it's like to be into true crime. When you're like, ooh,
the Easter Sunday massacre. Ooh yeah, and then when you
immediately get into eight children are dead, like all of that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Ooh is gone. I didn't want that to happen. It's
not what I was looking for. A have a I haven't?
Should we end on?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
An?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I survived? Sure?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
God, I got cat hair all the first person. It's
not my survived. It's like a can you believe? Let's
see here all right? So oh no, okay, so Bree
wrote on the Facebook page, lots of drama today, So
let's lighten the mood and talk about how I almost
(23:28):
got murdered.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Okay? Love it great?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So when I was four years old, my parents and
I lived in a tiny duplex in a small California
mountaintown by Yosemite called Mariposa. So the year is nineteen
ninety three, and my mom and I are home alone
one morning. All my dad is at work, being the
early nineties in all, she was in the shower and
I was sitting on the couch watching cartoons. The large
window above the couch was wide open. A man, maybe
(23:53):
in his forties, walked up to the window and started
talking to me. Here's the conversation of the best of
my recollection.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Hi, how are you.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Doing you watching cartoons? Where's your mommy? She's in the shower. Oh,
she is is your daddy home? Nope, it's just me
and mommy. Oh oh, okay, can I come in and
watch cartoons with you? I don't think I'm allowed. It's okay,
I know your mommy. Okay, hold on. I walk over
to the door to unlock it. I'm able to reach
and unlock the doorknob, but the dead bolt is slightly
(24:22):
higher and I was a very tiny kid, so I
couldn't reach it. All the while, he's at the window
peering in, watching me, trying to get the lock open. Finally,
I say I can't reach it. Let me go get mommy.
Uh let's see, and he says, oh no, that's okay, bye, sweetie,
and he ran off. And then my mom got out
of the shower a few minutes later, and I told
(24:43):
her she remembered how I remember how white her face turned,
and that's why I've always been thankful for being short.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I did the same thing, but I.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Let the person in no, and we sat on the
couch and talked no, yep, and my mom was He
didn't know my mom was home sick from work that day.
We were both home sick. And when I told him,
I still remember him going because my mom goes, Georgia,
who's here from the from upstairs? And he I can
(25:16):
remember him going like panicking and leaving no way. Yeah,
and he gave me like a friendship bracelet. He was
clearly gonna murder me.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh my god. Yeah, he said he was a daughter
or salesman.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He looked like now he looked like an out of
work actor in his best suit at least, which wasn't great. Yeah,
looking back, I almost got murdered. Yeah, yeah, Brie, I
feel you. Thank you for that story. Oh my god,
that was a good story, she said, Baby Sexy didn't
get baby murdered.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh my god, sitting in front of an open window
and having some goddamn hobo walk up. Yeah, and you're
the pie. No, wow, that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's crazy. Is that our Is that our mini? I
think that's our minisode? Murder minisod.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I was really satisfying. Great job, everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Send us more and like make the subject line really
great and that we will open and read it or
don't because we're still going.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
To read it anyways. Yeah, that's true. Thanks for listening
to the murder minisode.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well done, Stay Sexy, don't get murdered, Bye Babe,
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Georgia Hardstark
Karen Kilgariff
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