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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Fox Across America with Jimmy Baylor Boom back in action.
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it is a mess out there on these streets. But
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we're gonna get out the radio, mop clean it up.
Eight at eight, seven to eight, nine to nine, one zero.
Caroline Sunshine. She is a former Trump twenty twenty four
campaign worker. She is a regular here on the Fox Channel.
If you see her on Fox News, Fox Business. Her
and I were on Larry Kudlow together last week. We
had a great time talking about the NBA betting scandal,
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which by the way, has kind of disappeared from the news.
What the wide, wide worldless fortunes are going on here,
and I will tell you what's going on in this hour.
I said this last week. I even said this on
Jesse water Show. I said, this NBA scandal is the
biggest story in the world, but it's going to be
like the Coldplay kiss cam. It was like the only
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thing anyone on earth talked about for forty eight hours,
and then we forgot it. Ever happened. The difference to
the Coldplay kiss cam is you eventually run out of
memes to post and Coldplay jokes to tell. In this instance,
there's another reason for that story to leave the news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Money money, money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
There is a lot of money involved, and the American
people believing that our sports have been corrupted, that our
propossessions have been The proposition bets have been fixed becomes
a major liability for every major network that carries these
sports and banks on not only the integrity of the games,
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but the integrity of the bets. Ah, you have a
good man. They don't want a story on ESPN all
day about how some of the bets were fixed while
they're advertising their online gambling site at the bottom of
the screen. Okay, we covered this on Fox New Saturday night.
This weekend, ESPN is reporting on a breaking scandal with
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a bet ESPN add at the bottom of the screen.
Imagine you went to an intervention and the guy leading
it smelled like scotch and had the hiccups you might
be like, they really invested in this intervention, and the
answer is no, ESPN is not. None of the major
sports leagues are. They got in bed with gambling knowing
full well that they were going to have to accept
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a lot of indignities to the sport. But as long
as the bottom line, you know, the envelopes were full,
they could make it all work paying in cash. And
that story is a wall and it involves NBA Hall
of Famers, coaches, players for crime families, for NBA teams.
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Has anyone heard anything about it anywhere on TV today?
Answer would be no. And it's not even like the
news is that juicy? So you realize there is a way,
you know, for money to get its way. That's basically
what it comes down to. Big money really does drive
a lot of things. You know, the old saying if
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it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. Well, it
don't make dollars to sit here and go, oh, they
were fixing bets, okay, which means it don't make sense
to spend all day reporting on it. Is it going
to come back up in the news? Yeah? Are there
probably more players and celebrities involved? Yeah, But is everybody
going to talk about it in the meantime, No, we
might on this show. The government's gonna jump all over
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your head, Jimbo, I don't know. I think the government's
the one breaking up the racket. So I think we're
just gonna keep on chatting as new information makes it
this way, you got some big testicles to pull this
all broke. A lot of people feel that way. But
as we get underway in this hour, not even talking
so much about the NBA. Okay, we're just talking about
the other form of corrupt gambling politics, the stock market.
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Mikey Cheryl, who's running to be the governor of New Jersey,
was asked on Charlemagne's podcast if she made seven million
dollars trading stocks, and she said, I don't know, she's
not real smart. Now, she has since amended that answer
to say, well, my husband trades the stocks, and you know,
I wouldn't be paying attention on a day in a
day out, bacious, But it turns out we did make
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some money and blah blah blah blah blah. This is
the biggest schmuck I've ever met ever. Okay, but understand,
I mean that's a big part of our politics. The
reason I get on the show and I take a
lot of shot at Republicans is I want everybody listening
to understand that politics is not you against your Democrat buddy.
Politics is voters against governments. That's what real politics are
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supposed to be in this country. It's supposed to be
about us, the citizens who pay for the people to
go to Washington and do us dirty to not get
that get away with not enacting legislation that's beneficial to us.
But line times out of ten seems like it represents
the interests of their lobbyists more than it does the
people who actually sent them to power. This is politics
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as usual. That's why Mom Donnie has a good shot
at even winning. Do you not much money financed and
subsidized zoron Mom Donnie's campaign, And it ain't grassroots. It
ain't little poor New Yorkers sending them five dollars checks
and twenty dollars checks and holding lemonade sales. They're not
doing that. Ninety percent of the money comes from political
action groups outside to the state of New York. So
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Mom Donnie, which has risen to TikTok and all kinds
of social media prominence with the help of outsiders, will
now become the face of a city where the people
left with the bill are the insiders, meaning the folks
who actually live here. A lot of the Liberals voting
for Mom Donnie, you don't even live here. They're registered
to vote here, but they own houses in the Hampton's
and Martha's Vineyard and everything else. And they'll show up
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next week just to stick it to Republicans and vote
for Mom Donnie. But at the end of the day,
they're actually sticking into the city that they purportedly care about,
d headers the world. Come'm doing. I'm gonna give you
some Mom Donnie audio. Okay, this is not good audio.
This is him in September of twenty twenty three, more
of the anti Semiti rhetoric. Mom Donnie flat out saying, Okay,
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the NYPD is out there, you know, trampling people. And
you understand if the NYPD is trampling you, it's not
just the NYPD, it's the IDF, it's the Jews, it's
people with the dirty mind that think like that. Here
he is Clip three.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
For anyone to care about these issues, we have to
make them. We have to make clear that when the
food of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been
laced by the ideas. You're in a country where those
connections abound, especially in New York City, you have so
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many opportunities to make clear the ways in which fast
trouble over there is tied to capitals interest over here.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Wow, you're looney. I mean, seriously, so many ways to
make clear that the struggle over there in Israel is
tied to capital's interest over here. I mean, the NYPD
behaves a certain way because financial interest in Israel want
them to do that here in New York. I mean, dude,
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I'm but here is the reality. Okay. A lot of
Democrats don't agree with his socialist principles. A lot of Democrats,
to be clear, don't hate Jews. They don't. Does a
significant percentage of the Democrat Party hate Jews? Yes, there's
the reason Josh Shapiro wasn't the VP under Kamala. She
flat out admits it in her book. Okay, they were
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worried about losing the swing state of Dearborn of Michigan
because of the raging anti Semitic population in Dearborn, Michigan.
They didn't want to lose Michigan over the people in
Dearborn who hate the Jews. You'd want to put jew
a Jew on the ticket, but lo and behold, Josh
Shapiro was a pretty popular governor of Pennsylvania at the time.
Would have been a much better alternative to Tim Waltz,
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who just you know, he is the arm movement of
an inflatable guy outside a car wash, weird Richard Simmons impersonator,
and you know, you understand. Waltz was the guy who
burst onto the scene and said jd Vance made love
to his couch. What the hell did you? You say,
I don't know, But that would only make jd Vance
more historic. He'd be our first presidential candidate who was bisectional.
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Stole that one from my TV show. But as we say,
you're having this conversation, you dig that in politics or
on Momdanni is about to become the face of the
Democratic Party if he wins at a national level, which
means they will start to mimic, mimic this practice of
getting out there and saying America is a racist hell
hole and it's full of Islamophobes. This is the problem
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they have. Okay, this is real, and I'm telling you this,
I understand politics on a level no one covering it does.
And the reason being is I'm not as smart as them.
I'm not saying that to be self deprecating. The people
who cover this for a living day in and day
out can tell you which county voted what way in
twenty twenty four and twenty twenty and how that'll change
based on the shifting demographics and the key issues affecting
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the local races. That stuff really really matters. But what
I talked to you about is large messaging campaigns, is
the prevailing sentiments that shape a particular election. The Democrats
have chosen to make Zoron Mom Donnie's closing argument about
Islamophobia a new form of racism to accuse the entire
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country of why are they doing that, Jimbo, It's because
saying where the clan isn't working anymore. Okay, That's why
this is the new frontier of civil rights. They tried
the everybody hates black people thing, only to watch Black
Americans vote for Trump in record numbers. They tried to
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do the well trans people are under attack, only to
hear people laugh at them and go no, they're not.
Nobody cares if your trends. We're not trying to erase you.
You want to play sports, we just want you to
play in your own division. Okay, you want to go
to the bathroom, use the one assigned to your biolot
to you at birth. We don't want sex offenders in
women's rooms like they're running on in New Hampshire. So
what they've realized is that one is moving the needle.
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The trans issue is an eighty twenty issue for Republicans.
Eighty percent of Americans believe that biological men should not
be competing in women's sports. Eighty percent of Republicans excuse me,
of the country of the electorate, eighty percent of the
electorate believes biological men shouldn't be in the women's room. Okay,
so the Democrats can't run on. We'll protect the transagenda
because everybody's like, why just let the trans people be trans? Okay,
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if you're eighteen, do anything you want to your body.
It's a free country, Okay, and go enjoy your life.
You plur a bassoon amount of many one. No one
bought the idea that this was a civil rights frontier.
No one bought the idea that Black America's freedom is
on the ballot. Okay, because a lot of prominent Black
Americans mock the Democrat Party for failing to meet the
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moment when it comes to looking out for Black Americans.
How many times have you heard this Charles Barkley clip
on my show?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The reason I think the Democratic Party missed a Biden
President Biden is losing black bosas they only care about
black people every four years.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Wow, that's Charles Barkley saying Democrats only care about black
people every four years. I agree with that. So the
problem is black people know that. You know, the schools
in this country are failing. Seventy percent of our high
school kids that go to inner city schools cannot read
at the level of their grade. Okay, so they've failed
black kids and minority kids, Latino kids, all kinds of
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minorities that go to inner city schools. And yeah, a
lot of white kids just the same. But the point
is those schools are failing, and the common denominator amongst
a lot of minorities is they don't have the money
to go to private school. So when the Democrats get
in the way of something like school choice, they're ostensibly
trapping minority families and failing schools. They don't care. Okay,
just vote for us because the other guys are racist
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against minorities. That worked for a really long time. But
in this last election, when people looked at what we
were told was a battle for the soul of our nation,
you gotta vote Democrat. Do you have a problem figuring
out whether you're Premi or Trump? And you ain't black?
But when Black America saw Biden get elected, only to
watch their unemployment rate go up, their inflation rate go up,
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their murder rate go up, their screw proficiency rate go down,
they said, Wow, what do we have to vote? What
do we have to show for voting Democrats? And it
started a conversation that made it possible for Trump to
run on his record. Trump did not get a record
level of Black voters by going, hey, black people, that's
what the Democrats do. Trump just catered to humanity instead
of identity. Okay it no one's identity is immune from humanity, okay,
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And no one's identity has a monopoly on humanity. What
I mean by humanity is economy. The economy, Hey, we're
going to make more money, We're going to cut your taxes.
We're going to shrink the size of the government. We're
not going to subsidize all these dopey things on the
other side of the world that cost you more money
and drive up inflation, because government spending is the root
cause of inflation. We're not going to do that. It's
just a rising tide that lifts all votes. If you're
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a human being, hey, no more criminals on our streets.
We're going to deport the murderers and rapists. Okay. There
is not a single solitary race that holds the monopoly
on benefiting from that issue. We're all safer as a
result of it. Okay, So when Trump goes out there
and caters to humanity and a rising tide that lifts
all boats, it becomes appealing to people because what democrats
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in the era of identity politics, for god is we're
all the same. Like we might look different, but we're
all the same. You want to make money, you want
to eat food, you want to have a place to live,
you want to get a little something something in the
sack at the end of the night. Oh yes, I've
read about that in the Bible. But none of that
is exclusive to any individual race. That's the point. And
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once the conversation began about substantive issues like delivering for
these minority communities, it made it really easy for Trump
to start to win record levels of votes. Okay, So,
knowing that they've lost their grip on the minority vote
and the whole America is really systemically racist and we're
just a giant klu Klux clan rally, the Democrats embracing
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Mamdani are pivoting to the new form of racism. Well,
it's actually just aslamophobia. He didn't realize about America. Don't
forget that ant that he imagined and made up after
September eleventh. Wasn't comfortable on the subway because she was Muslim. Well,
everybody else wasn't comfortable on the subway because a bunch
of Muslims killed three thousand New Yorkers. And again, we're
not making it about the religion. It's about the terrorist acts.
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But mom, Donnie's the kind of guy who's trying to
use pretend institutionalized racism as a justification for putting a
Jew hating racist in charge of New York City. Okay,
and is it gonna work? Yeah, I actually think it's
gonna which isn't good. There are checks on his power, okay,
and that's the good news. Okay. The bad news is
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if it works, other people are going to try to
mimic it going forward. But the hard lesson they're going
to learn in the long run is the same lesson
America learned in the twenty twenty four election. You can
only call us racist so long before we kind of
tune you out and focus on the real issues. Race
is not where the line is drawn. Is God's side,
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and on the side he's the host. You shouldn't get
too close to a lot of things about me. You
don't know anything about that. Things you wouldn't understand, things
he couldn't understand. There it is Fox Across America with
Jimmy Thaler. When to be talking to Caroline Sunshine in
the next segment. Right now, we were having some you
and me talk about Mom Donnie. The one report is
(15:20):
that the polymarket gambling site odds are plunging, with the
hot rumor being that outside interests might have driven them
up by placing a lot of wagers on Mom Donnie
and creating a sentiment that it was inevitable that he
would win the next election. Now, I don't know what
to believe. Traditionally the betting markets have been very accurate,
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but it would make sense to me that you could
use them to manipulate sentiment, because that's what they do
with the polls a lot of times when a poll
comes out, like say last week, we had this poll
that was like, well, Curtis Sleeve when he needs to
drop out of the race because if he does, Andrew
Como has a shot at winning, and you go, oh,
everybody gets lee out of here. But then you come
to find out what that the poll was paid for
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by the people supporting hansy Andy Cuomo Andy Andy, and
it turns out that poll might not be reliable. Then
there's a poll that comes out over the weekend. I
think Rudy Giuliani posted it. He was like, you know,
if CuMo gets out of the race, Slava could win
this thing. But then you find out that Mayor Giuliani
might have an interest in sli Wa winning this thing.
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So it's hard to take it at face value. But
if there's a third effort at manipulation, yes, then that
might be Mom Donnie and people betting the gambling markets
that being said, a lot of the polling, and a
broad swath of the polling shows Mom Donnie winning this
thing pretty easily. So my guess is I believe he's
going to win. I think most people I know do
at this point. What the resolute hope is between now
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an election day, the surgeon early voting of senior citizens,
specifically senior citizens, the most relying, voting, reliable voting block
we have in this country. They are apparently turning out
in big numbers in New York City's early voting. Now,
the problem remains, and Bill Hemmer talked about this earlier
on the show. If you missed it, can get the
podcast at Foxacross America dot com. We don't know who
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these seniors are. We know there's an early voting turnout
for seniors, But are they these seniors that you know,
moved here from other countries and don't like the idea
that New York might closely resemble the type of thing
it fled, or are they the self hating white seniors
who showed up to the No King's protest and wasted
a Saturday pretending we had a king in Washington, DC
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when we don't have anything of the sort, and the
truth is, we're not going to know that till we
start to get some exit polling on election night. So
it's really fascinating stuff. But this whole idea that Mom
Donnie's closing message is about racism and it's lamophobia and
how he's gonna make New York a place where listen,
(17:48):
New York has every race known to ma'am, it's the
most diverse place in the world. So this seems like
a bit of a reach by a guy like Zora
mom donk last night. Well, you're in luck. Mikey has booked.
I'm a major California baseball fan. Unfortunately she roots for
the Angels always. This is like the movie twenty seven.
Dresses kind of a bridesmaid in this world series, but
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you're America's bride. When it comes to the media, they
all love you. Caroline Sunshine in the house and the
crowd goes wild.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Hey girl, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You want to have a funny laugh about Larry Cudlow,
our buddy, This is the last time I saw you.
We have big NBA scandal breaks last Thursday. Caroline and
I go on Cudlow to talk about it. Friday, he
pulls me into his office and he goes, hey, I
want to thank you guys for coming by talking about
that yesterday. He's like, you know, I've dealt with a
lot of addiction in my life, drugs, everything like that.
(18:37):
He says, I've never heard an addict talk about their
vice the way you did. And I go, well, I
don't go to Gamble's anonymous, and he goes, well, maybe
you should. It's like, okay, Larry, let me get out
of here. I'm gonna go to a meeting. But I
feel like we gambled in one. We did good TV together.
Give us credit for that.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Amen, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
All right, thank you? Because I know the hater I'm kidding.
There's nogaters. They're very supportive on the Cudlow Show. They
are the best. But it's great to.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
See gambling is the only addiction I've never.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Had, said he said. He said that on the Area
because gambling's the only addiction I've never had. I love
that about Cudlow. He's the best. He does real TV
because he just asked you a question, gets out of
the way and you can actually just talk. You know. Well,
that's my favorite thing about radio too, is we have room,
right Now, most TV hits are like, what do you have?
Why do you have it? Here's a picture of the
guy coming up next, here's a story underneath. Get out
of here.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yes, that's what I was saying. I feel like so
many viewers.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Don't see the backside of like in your set, it's cool,
it's more of a hang like you're.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Saying, it's more, it's more real.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
People don't see the backside of TV, and like it
sometimes feels very.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes to your point, Yes, robbing an old cosmetics get
in there with the garbage bag, fill it up with
some lipstick, and get out of there, which.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
By the way, is crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Like I mean I was telling you, I'm you know,
in LA, and it came out to New York and
like just going into a CVS here, Like I thought
LA was bad, but you go into a CVS.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
You cannot buy.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Toothpaste in this city without having to have some You
feel like a kindergartener, right, you have to have somebody
come unlock the gate and say there's your toothpaste, Like
it's that is not normal.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, And so the guy you have to flag down
a guy You're like, I want to buy toothpaste.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
He's miserable.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
He's as he's got to grab a key and unlock
the toothpaste and then he's got to unlock toothpased, he's
gonna hand you the toothpaste and then you steal it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But it's like the time you're just made to feel.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Awful for being there wanting to purchase anything.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
He's upset, like you have to hit the little button
first to pay button us aisle seventeen assistants need it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You know. My favorite part about that is then some
local politicians gets on TV goes you know crime is down? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
you can tell by the way we're barricading the cosmetics.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Or it's the opposite where it's a guy like mom
Donnie where he's like yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Like what's what's wrong with it? Like he's not gonna
do That's the.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Thing, right, is like on his crime policies, I'm thinking, like,
does everybody just want to live in a new normal
where we're not being able to buy a razor without
having somebody unlock a glass case?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Is like we just accept that. It's like, oh yeah,
this is civilist.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You never shop. There was no impulse buying, right, you know,
just like see something on a shelf and get it.
You go there with a plan, you find the key operator.
It's so bananas, it's crazy. We're talking to Caroline Sunshine.
Here's mom Donnie on the Daily Show. I wanted to
play this. This is him kind of trying to make
sense of what he will and won't do. And he's saying,
you know, I've been accused of wanting to do like
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things like defund the police. I mean, they didn't like
make that up, you know, Like he's trying to claim
that all of the attacks against him are rooted in
some form of Islamophobia. I mean, no, it's not so
much your religion so much as you've taken the side
of Islamic terrorists. That's a problem, you know what I mean.
Or you know, the defund the police thing is his tweet.
It's not our idea, but I just want you to
hear this. It's clip one.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, I don't begrudge New Yorkers who are skeptical
because they've also lived through tens of millions of dollars
of commercials telling them to fear me.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know, they have lived through waking up every morning
and seeing a photo of me and just feeling like,
oh my god, because the language that's written around me
as if I am a threat to the city that
they love. And so when I meet with them, just
the mere fact that I don't strangle them within thirty seconds,
and then I think it's it's an opportunity where, you know,
(22:14):
I both can tell them the things that I will
do and the things that I won't do. Right, I
will freeze the rent, I won't defund the police. I
will make buses fast and free. I won't decriminalize misdemeanors.
I will deliver universal childcare. I won't require everyone to
eat halal food.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And I think he might have going to laugh at
the end of that. But the point is all of
these things, he's defending himself against our own positions, you
know what I mean, Like, I'm not going to defund
the police, all right, Well you tweetd that we should.
So the fact that we're like, hey, don't defund the
police is not us being Islamophobic or anything. You know,
it's just anti the policy. Wouldn't you say, oh.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, same thing where he had he apologized to the NYPD.
I do get one of these because while I'm here
in New York because if mom Donnie wins, like, you're
not gonna be able.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
To get these anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's just gonna be f the police hoodies and white
Peter Tank.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That's just not you're going to sell that on the market.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Is a relic, absolutely, But he like he looks into
the camera and he apologizes to the NYPD.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
But it's like, you literally said that the NYPD.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Is racist, anti queer.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Queer liberation to defund, to defund them, and they're racist,
and it's like that's not really something that you can
kind of like easily apologize your your way out of.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But you know, he's he's an actor.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I keep telling everybody and maybe finally Jimmy, you listen,
being a comedian, Like, the guy is an actor. He's
a really good stick you can tell he practices it
very well in the mirror. He's been super well prepared
by whoever it is on his team, and he just
knows how to you know, I don't say this as
(23:53):
somebody who's like, oh, I'm Dommy's great. I'm just telling
you from a technical aspect, how the guy is playing
baseball and winning, Why he's going up to bat and
like not striking out. No matter what everybody's saying about him.
He's just he's an actor. He's got a really good shtick.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Caroline Sunshine is here. She says, if politics were America's
got talent, Mom Donnie can get to the next round.
Freezing the rent, though might not get our town in
the next round. Price controls on grocery stores maybe not
the ideal, you know what.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
It's crazy though, So I was out.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I went to Queen's yesterday because there's there's this voter
group that I'm interested in. It's people that voted for
Trump in the presidential but then they voted for Mom
Donnie in the primary, and.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yeah, really interesting. And I was asking them about this.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I was like, you know, hey, like what about his
policies on freezing the rent or like his policies on crimeer,
like you really want to you know, like decriminalized prostitution,
Like are you good with all these things? And everyone's attitude,
their their vibes were very much.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I mean, yeah, I'm kind of willing.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
To risk it.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
It was I'm just so fed up with the state
of things in New York City. This guy's kind of
talking about affordability, that's my main thing.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I'll risk it on everything else.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I just thought that was interesting because that's not
what you're hearing on television or off But when you
go talk to people, people are like, I'm just so
done with nobody caring about me.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Y'all risk it, I'll try it. Which is so sad
that we put voters in the.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
State the political equivalent of the pregnant women taking Thailand all.
Like Trump said, don't do it all. You know, what
did you see?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He made time to tweet that again. Yeah, that's the
best thing about Trump. He's on this like foreign visit,
he's meeting with world leaders, he's doing deals, and then
you go check truth Social and he's like Thailand all
pregnant women.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, he was literally on the plane lift of an
aircraft carrier dropping truth social tweets as he parachuted into
a meeting with the troops at three am this morning.
He's live tweeting.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
You know, so it's real.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We're talking to Caroline Sunshine. I mean, you worked on
this campaign, You've been around this sort of thing. I
think that what Trump is doing on the other side
of the world right now is obviously historic. I think
back here at home, we're just watching the new form
of grievance take shape. You know how we went into
like no Kings and obviously that didn't really stick. Mom.
Donnie's closing message really is Islamophobia, and that's what he's
(26:15):
talking about. Did you hear that made up story about
the ant that now turns out? I want to play
this for the listeners. He now clarifies it was his
dad's cousin, not his aunt he was speaking about. But
the reason it's so laughable is regardless of who it is. Okay,
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable on the subway. The rest of
us were really uncomfortable because they blew up three thousand people,
(26:36):
you know. But here he is clarifying. And again, if
the closing messages is Lamophobia, and that's a real message,
you don't have to make up stories. But he's making
them up. And this speaks to your analysis of him
being an actor. So listen to this act. Listen to
the rewrite here it is clip too.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, that's I was speaking about my aunt. I was
speaking about Zantafui. My father's cousin.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And for the takeaway for my more than ten minute
address about Islamophobia in this race and in the city
to be the question of my aunt tells you everything
about Andrew Cuomo and his inability to reckon with the
crisis of his own making.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But it's I get the Cuomo shot just the same,
but it's a made up story.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
The best part is he's clearly caught in a lie.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, and he doubles down because it's I mean again,
I'm just I'm laughing at this because it's funny, Like
he doubles down, he doesn't apologize, he's clearly caught in
a lie, and instead he just pivots to and you
know what it was actually not in It was a
cousin and she's dead now, so we can't even go
ask You can't even get him there. You can't even
(27:47):
go ask her because she's dead. And it's offensive, frankly
that you're now talking about my dad, like, shame on
you for catching me in a lie about my aunt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It was actually in if I come if I guys,
if I come home tonight covered in glitter, smelling like
a pirate hooker, and Jenny goes, where the hell are you?
And I go why? Because I'm white? That's what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's such a it's a stick, like everyone kinda is
trying to mom. Donny's such a phenomenon in a way
that everyone's trying to analyze him and you.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Know, label and we're always as socialized.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
He obviously it's like and nothing's really sticking. But it's like, guys,
it's because he's a theater kid. He's a theater kid
who figured out how to take his act on the
road to get political power. Like he reminds me of
like kids that I did model you n with in college,
where like they really think they're smarter than everybody else
in the room.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
They've they've rehearsed the stick.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
They think they're smarter than you, and they're just gonna
like keep writing it until.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
You catch on. Was like, he's he's a fraud, really,
I mean he's a what his parents are both like
they have money, money, you know, and his dad's like
a who.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Says Abraham Lincoln inspired Hitler.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Right, like his death it's extreme, that's extreme.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Your parents really do shape your worldview if you grow
up the house where the guy at the head of
the dinner table said Hitler was inspired by Abe Lincoln.
You probably developed some anti American.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Sentiments maybe you think you think, and same thing with
the whole like what is he he eats his food
with his hands, right, But it's like that's an act too,
Like that's not.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Real, but the whole thing's fake.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Hot he is like this decade's Obama and that he's
a hot topic candidate. It's cool to say you're voting
for him. It's like a it's like flair you put
on a jacket. It's like a button you put on
that you bought it hot topic or Spencer gifts and
you're like, I'm one of these.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's I'm glad that you brought that up because that also,
to me, is accurate.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Like him and Obama have a very similar shtick. They
grew up very similar.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
They're the child of like very progressive academics, and then
they figured out how to have a good act. Yeah,
and it's an act that is like likable, it's personable,
it's kind of fun, it's smart, it's quick, Like that's
exactly what Obama's act was.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yes, and you could emotionally blackmail a lot of guilty
white people. They're like, yeah, we've got to save that.
It's so crazy. Don't conywhere our Caroline Sunshine is sticking
around the host who always has gifts for his listeners.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
G's some grass, a few effs, a little nosey, and
Bottle of the Night, A box across America.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Caroline Sunshine riding shotgun. Hey girl, she is from California,
where Gavin Newsom grew up a poor black child. If
you've been watching the podcast this week, it's so funny.
Well you talk about acting like, nope, we're living in
the death of shame. There are people among us who
actually don't feel shame, like they don't go that's bad.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, And then by the way, they're like chronic cases
like there's no the hopeless you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, no, it's just the thing. They've made peace with
that because it's the factory setting in the machine.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You have to be a certain level of shameless to
do what they do, like to get up and be
Gavin Newsome every day. There's a certain level of shamelessness.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
It is required.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I love it so much though, because he's on this
NBA podcast He's like, yeah, man, Mac and cheese, wonder
break Yo. It was a struggle man. Dad's hanging out
with the Getties. He's actually in like his childhood Christmas photo.
He's sitting on a person. They use this furniture. It's
like they've not kidding. She goes, I haven't seen that. Reason. Well,
(31:28):
there's a reason, Caroline. Here is Kamala Harris. Though we're
talking about California politicians. I wanted to get into this too.
It's clipped thirty seven.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
When are they going to see a woman in charge
in the way house in their lifetime?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
For sure? Boy, could it be you? Possibly? Have you
made a decision yet?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But you say in your book, I'm not done. That
is correct. I am not done.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I have lived my entire career a life of service,
and it's in my bones, and there are many ways
to serve. I've not decided yet what I will do
in the future beyond what I am.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Doing right now, which is also still a little meandery.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
She's not done, Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
What you don't realize is if you saw that on
camera she was talking to the woman coming to take
her wine glass.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm not finished.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I'm not finished.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's in my bones. There are many ways to serve.
She's actually lecturing her about how she presented the glass.
You can come in on a flat tray, you can
hand it to me.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Ironically, I actually think if she leaned into her, just
like Wino persona, she'd probably get more votes.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's what a lot of people doing wrong, Carolyn Sunshine
and Studio, even the new something he grew up rich.
That's actually not a bad thing if you lean into it. Yeah,
Trump's pretending, yeah, pretending you didn't. I think Mitt Romney
gave Trump the blueprint because when Mitt Romney ran, he
tried to pretend he was poor.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, and they had a personality.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
There was that, and he wore the mom jeans. Do
you remember that? And what's funny is you know he
ran away from his success. Trump, as you know, runs
like a rapper. He parks a private jet in front
of the podium and as a supermodel bring him on stage.
I mean Trump is.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Like, yeah, I'm a little bit richer than what they
say it is.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
But he does like.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
He's a showman.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Like people love it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They love it. Yeah. But that's what Kama is getting wrong.
If she said I'm a day drunk mess, but I
love this country. I vote for that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I think a lot of people would be like I
feel seen heard and like me too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I am seriously like, think about this. If Prince Harry
and Megan Markle showed up and instead of being like, wa,
we're victims, will never get the crown and they were
and they were like, actually we inherit like half a
billion dollars and we don't do I'd be like I
want to follow them on Instagram. This is amazing. Did
you guys just hang out my favorite Yeah, it would
be amazing. But what happened is in that era where
(33:51):
they tried to fancy victimhood is currency, it duped a
lot of successful people into running away from the things
that were going right in their lives.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, they don't even know. It gets to a point
too where like you just don't know who you are anymore.
But I see that in so many people that run
for office. They just they've been told that they need
to be. If they're to this, then they're this voting
group isn't gonna like them. If they're to that, these
people aren't gonna like them. Like you just see people
become they lose who they actually are.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
And if you lean into the thing, it's funny. I'll
give Dave Chapelle credit for this. Dave Chappelle talked about
if Trump one in twenty sixteen. He did a great
bit where he goes, you know, they said to Trump,
you didn't pay taxes, and he goes, well, I have
good accountants. There were loopholes. They saved me money. He goes,
this man came out of that big house all the
powerful people are in and told us exactly what's going
(34:37):
on in there. Totally, but you respect him, like if
Newsom said, Hey, I grew up really rich and I'm
friends with the Getty's and I've just done well for myself,
and let me tell you how the rich people really
look at society and how we manipulate you and do
things and benefit ourselves. And you'd go, wow, that's like
so authentic. But because they were duped into thinking victim
hunt his currency, he wants you to believe he was
(34:58):
eating wonderbread.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, And it's like the do anything to be liked.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's like you see that an actors sometimes, you know,
like I grew up in Disney Channel and La and
all that, Like you see there's like a complex and
actor sometimes like.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
They just want to be liked.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, and you see that in like the politics that
plays out in Hollywood. Like, I don't really think half
the people in Hollywood have the actual politics they claim to,
but they want to be liked and they feel like
if they say, I just hate Jonald Trump more than you,
maybe you'll like your heart. That's also in the people
that run this country. It's fine for actors to have
(35:30):
that complex, not great for people who want to run
your country.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Amen, folks, we're talking to the great Caroline Sunshine. Get around,
get here. We don't want to, but the show's over.
That was not a personal dut That was the radio
clock speaking. We're back here to do it again. Tomorrow,
Caroline Sunshine, do it again as well. We'll always have
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