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Midtown Manhattan Today. We're thrilled to have a truly global
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sensation with US singer, songwriter and influencer a moon Star.
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She has close to two and a half million followers.
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She's from the sunlit shores of San Diego and she's
all the way down to the ancient landscapes of Egypt.
She's taken the music world by storm with her cross
cultural influence, powerful voice, and undeniable star quality. She's here
to chat career, her new release Bitchy, and what twenty
twenty five has in store.
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For her in the Expert on the Microphone series.
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In our Polished Beauty segment, we're diving into women's wellness
in a way that addresses real needs beyond the usual
narratives menopause and female sexual health.
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We're gonna chat with Laniker, founder.
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And CEO of CO two Lift and Lumist Skincare, doctor
Amy Deveranya, founder of Uva. She offers data driven insights
for managing hormone health right from the comfort of your
own home. And they're going to be joined by doctor
Daisy Aim, Triple Board certified obgin and cosmetic surgeon.
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area.
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You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten wr the voice of New york iHeartRadio.
I'm your host Zen Sam's Today. We're thrilled to have
a truly global sensation with US singer, songwriter, and influencer
A moon Star right here at iHeart Headquarters. From the
sunlit shores of San Diego to the ancient landscapes of Egypt,
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she has taken the music world by storm with her
cross cultural influence, powerful voice, and undeniable star quality. Her
music isn't just a reflection of her life experiences. It's
a bridge that connects worlds, cultures, and genres, and with
hits like Infected and her new single Bitchy, a Moonstar
is redefining pop culture with a blend of confidence and
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authenticity that truly resonates deeply.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
A moon Thank you so much for joining us today, Superstar.
Welcome to the show. It's so good to see you again.
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
All Right, well, we're gonna dive right in because this
is truly exceptional. You've come such a long way. Let's
talk about your new single Bitchy. So not every day
do we get a song titled with that kind of audacity,
how could you?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Attitude?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But it's interesting because studies actually show that assertiveness and
self confidence in lyrics increases listener engagement by up to
thirty five percent and it's a real mood boost for listeners.
So what inspired you to embrace this bold side and
what do you hope listeners will.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Take away from Bitchy.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I think I was just unleashing my authentic self. I
think that I was like, there's a little bit of
tongue in cheek in it, but it's really like just
pure feminine energy. And I did write a safer version
of the song, and I thought, why this is so boring,
so let's just go all the way.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So yeah, I think it's that play. It's safe.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah, No, safe is not a very interesting thing.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
So your career has taken you around the world, and
that's no small feat.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Not everyone in pop gets to say they work with
both the American Embassy and the Egyptian Ministry for Antiquities.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I mean talk about a global resume.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And a recent report that I was reading, seventy two
percent of top chartting artists are now incorporating global.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Influences into their work. So you're on the right track.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
How have your experiences abroad shaped your music and how
do you keep your sound authentic but still connect with
fans from so many different backgrounds.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Well, it's funny, my, my producer that works with me
on Vichy is actually Egyptian, and I think that because
he has such a diverse background in music, that the
two of us coming together actually made for a more
interesting song. It's still Western, but there are some hints
of a little Middle Eastern back there. You can't really
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know that it's there, but it's there, so it makes
it more interesting. And I think that I think that
using any kind of international sound, or traveling or getting
to know different feels and moods around the world, will
only increase the interesting part of the music, you know,
to make it more interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Now I'm going to pivot a little bit backwards to
your album origins. It even made it to the final
voting nominations at the Grammys, and that's a major achievement
in a world where like less than two percent of
submissions get that kind of recognition.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
But this isn't your first accolade.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You've also got a Hollywood Music and Media Award and
a SoundCloud Wave Award under your belt.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
So three three, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So with so many milestones in such a short time,
how do you stay grounded And what's the most surreal
part of.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
This journey for you?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I spend a lot of time by myself. That's really
grounding for me. I need my downtime so that I
can fully engage in my creative wild side. And yeah,
I think that's the most important thing. I also do
a lot of exercise. I hydrate well. I just take
care of myself, you know, as much as I can hydrate.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Ooh, yes, that piqued my attention. Well, this is a
very fitting question when it comes to hydration. We know
that hydration is extremely important for all kinds of functions
in our body, from metabolism to organs, to our insulin
levels to our energy. Electrolyte replacement is extremely important, especially
when you're traveling. What's your hydration hack?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well, I do drink a lot of water, and I
stay away from soda. I don't drink any soda. I
don't drink any alcohol. And I'm traveling, I do drink
coconut water. And yeah, just anything that can really make
me feel like I'm hydrating, not just the inside of myself,
but also my skin and my mind.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Now, as a creative powerhouse, you've performed across the globe.
You've also done over a thousand interviews and personal appearances,
I mean, you're clearly always on the red carpet. If
it's clear you love connecting with your audience both on
and off stage. And it's interesting because you're doing all
the right things when you look at the surveys, and again,
I believe that the world is very data driven. It
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revealed that over eighty percent of artists say interacting directly
with fans has changed their creative process. So how does
that interaction shape your music and influence the themes you explore
in your work.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well, no, I think that it's absolutely essential for coming
up with the ideas in which to create from. I mean,
I don't everything is nothing is original in the world,
you know, but but to be really interesting at the time,
you must trend and so you must connect with the
ideas and opinions that are trending right now. And I
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feel like that's something that having direct access to fans
does because you can really get the pulse on the street.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We are officially out of time, we're at the end
of our date. I when it's been such a joy
having you here on our show. Thank you so much
for joining us in person.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Thank you, Yes, such a wonderful opportunity. Thank you so
much for having very.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Serendipitous your music, your journey, and your vibrant personality are
truly inspiring, my dear, and I know.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Our listeners are walking away with.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
A little extra sparkle right now, So thank you for
sharing your world with us, and we can't wait to
see where your incredible journey will take you next to
all our listeners, make sure to check out A Moon's
latest single, Bitchy and Now. It's also on YouTube. Definitely
head to her channel. Every handle on the Gram and
every handle on YouTube goes by A Moon's name, A
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Beauty podcast dot com. Welcome back to a Moment of
Zen On seven to ten, wore the voice of New
York iHeartRadio. I'm your host Zen Zams today and our
expert on the Microphone series and the Polished Beauty segment.
We're taking a closer look at women's wellness, a conversation
that's long overdue in a way that speaks to women
that actually need it, rather than the conventional narratives that
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sometimes just totally miss the mark. Menopause and female wellness
are often talked about as if they're delicate issues to
tiptoe around, but our guests today are rewriting that story. Laniker,
founder and CEO of Co two Lift, is breaking barriers
with a non invasive and non hormonal approach and rejuvenation
solutions that restore confidence in women at every age. Doctor
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Amy Defrania is the data driven visionary behind UVA. She's
transforming hormone health management with actionable insights women can access right.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
At home and joining them.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Is my contributor and expert on the microphone, doctor Daisieme.
She's a triple board certified obgyn and cosmetic surgeon who
bridges beauty and wellness, showing us just how powerful and
interconnected these fields can be. Let's get real, let's get scientific,
and let's bust some myths around female wellness and sexual health.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Let's jump right in, lan, I'm going to start with you.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So you're the mind behind that CO two lift vaginal
rejuvenation treatment which uses carboxy therapy to rejuvenate the skin
and the skin down there without invasive procedures. And so
many women feel like they have to choose between aging
gracefully or battling wrinkles with drastic measures and even dryness
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down there.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So can you tell us why.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You believe non hormonal treatments are the future of skincare
and why you chose carboxy therapy as your focus.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Yes, thank you, zen. I believe that regenerative medicine is
the way of the future. More and more people are
looking for ways to allow their own bodies to heal themselves,
and carboxy therapy is a new category in this area.
It's new to the United States. Even though carboxy has
a long history. This application and delivery system because it's
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a gel, has so many different indications and can be
used in so many different places on the body, the face,
the body, and as you mentioned, the vulvo vagina, so
I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So with so much demand for safe, for non invasive options,
I imagine you'll have some inspiring insights on how this
approach is really changing the skincare industry.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
So I can't wait to keep following up.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Now, doctor Amy, what inspired you to create UVA and
how is this giving women.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
More control over their health journey.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I actually went through a pretty devastating infertility journey, and
I realized, having irregular cycles my entire life, that pretty
much every tool or solution available on the market was
designed for a woman who has a twenty eight day cycle.
And so I'm a data scientist by training. That being said,
I started collecting as much data as I could, and
I realized the piece of information missing from my data
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set was what my hormones were doing, because that dictates
every phase of a woman's life and every day of
her cycle, and so I set out to solve that problem.
I realized women had a huge gap in their knowledge base.
They also don't really don't even understand why they have
a period and what finantial cycle is for, and so
I wanted to change that. It really filled that knowledge
gap with data and not just blog posts or content.
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So we built this at home testing platform that measures
critical female hormones at the moment. We measure progester around
lutinizing hormone and estrogen quantitatively over the course of fifteen
to twenty days, and we help women navigate their time
to conceive journey as well as perimenopad, which is a
huge black hole when it comes to information, data and
just the knowledge out there.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Knowledge is power.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
This is so practical, and this is so innovative and
proprietary and yet so simple. Now doctoring me hormone health
has a huge impact on overall well being, yet it's
still kind of taboo to openly discussed. But UVA is
making it easier for women to have that data on
their hormonal cycles in the palm of their hands. But
how do you see UVA helping to break the stigma
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surrounding hormonal changes, Because there's a lot of stigmas and misinformation,
particularly around menopause.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Absolutely, and I think a lot of stigma stems from
misinformation and just not knowing right. So we're actually starting
this movement. I'm wearing a shirt well show you that
I am a hormonal ask me why. And the reason
is because we are all hormonal, and it doesn't have
to be a stigma. It doesn't have to be like,
oh my god, I'm off today, I'm a hormonal, Leave
me alone, leave me in the closed room for the day.
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There's a reason behind it. And if we can actually
put some science behind it and educate women in the
community why why we're hormonal, what these hormones are doing
with the purpose of them are and then either be
better prepared or at least own the fact that, yes,
I am hormonal because of this this phase, I'm in perimenopause.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
My hormones are out of whack, and I understand and why.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's so exciting to think about how accessible hormone tracking
is and is empowering women to take control of these
crucial health changes.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
So good job.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Now I'm going to hand this off to doctor Daisy
because I know she has some questions for Lana.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Take it away, doctor Daisy.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yes, hi, Lana, can you tell us about some of
the research backed results you've observed with you two with
cupoxy therapy.
Speaker 9 (16:23):
Especially in one healing and regenerative space. We just completed
a study on skin microbiome. We're seeing that it reduces senescence.
We're looking at also is doing for type one and
type three collagen. We did a wound healing study. We
saw in our pilot study that we can actually close
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a non healing diabetic ulcer in as little as eight days.
We then did another one on dive, a larger study
on diabetic ulcers and those six months non healing wounds
closed within a month.
Speaker 10 (16:54):
We just completed another one.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
With profusion studies as well as venus ulcer studies, and
again the results are remarkable. So we have and of
course with you know, with wound healing, there's a place
for in aesthetics because if something is able to quickly
close a wound, then we can know what is doing
for our skin in terms of reducing the effects of
aging everywhere on our body.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And I want to piggyback off that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So when you talk about the vulva rejuvenation treatment, this
is an application that you insert similar to the way
you would insert a tampon, right, can you explain to
me what those effects are?
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Okay, So, as we age the aging effects, as.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
We know, more than just the skin on our face
and our neck, our vulva loses, microcirculation slows down and
so blood flow slows down to our pleasure area are clitterous,
and so that can actually atrophy and so women experience
less sensitivity during sex. Also, the skin inside of that
tissue is as thin as the skin under our eyes.
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It's very thin and dry, so women eventually experience dryness
and then which leads to painful sex. So all those
things decrease our pleasure as well as the fact that
you know, because you know, as as.
Speaker 10 (18:08):
We were just talking about with hormones we.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Are we experience even not only dryness and sensitivity, but
even our pH can be thrown off, and so women
are more susceptible to infections. So the CO two lift
V is very effective at rebalancing pH. We're generating that
issue very quickly. We've seen in the biopsies after just
ten treatments how that tissue is really thick and nice.
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As well as women in our both our double blind
clinical studies show increase in orgasm sensitivity pleasure.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Now, doctor Amy, I'm going to pivot to you. As
a scientist.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You know how central data is to understanding trends in
female health.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
That's your entire ethos of your company.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yet there's still a significant gap in menopause and perimenopause research.
So how does Zuva contribute to filling these gaps? And
how can data of an insights really transform the way
women approaching menopause.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
We're in a really unique position because the data set
that we have is unmatched. Right we're talking about fifteen
to twenty days of hormone measurements across multiple cycles, across
thousands and thousands of women. The only way to get
data like this was to have patients come in every
day for blood work, and we're doing this without any
sort of invasive treatment. It's all done through yearn but
you're getting so much information. Last month in September, we
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actually presented our first piece of perimenopause research at the
Menopause Society conference, where we showed an amazingly strong correlation
between estrogen levels and the quality.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Of sleep that women were experiencing.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
So we always tied think about perimenopause as symptom management,
but there's a hormonal underlayer that we have to treat.
There's a reason that these symptoms are happening, and it
has to do with the hormonal imbalance.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The problem is no one understands that hormone and balance.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So we're really trying to be at the forefront of
educating not only the consumer but also the medical community
on what these hormonal and balances look light so we
can start getting to the root of the problem.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So innovative and I imagine having concrete data like this
can can make a real difference for women navigating the
complexities of perimenopause and menopause because, like you said, now
you have actual proof in your hands and you can
plan accordingly. I know, Doctor Daisy, you have a question
for doctor Amy as well, right.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yeah, doctor Amy, how do you see uba impact in
the future of homeowner health management, especially at home tracking.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
What patients I believe are now demanding is they want
more immediate and at home care. So UVA is really
meeting them where they need it, and we're giving them
that actacy and accuracy. As a blood test, but done
through urine, you get your results within seconds and the
best part is your clinician can be the data in
real time as well. Our entire system is about compliant
to really aid in that two way conversation. Now, the
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other pieces that because we're doing this hormone data, not
only do we just provide values to an end user.
If you think about a blood test, you get a report,
all you get are values saying high low in range.
That doesn't really tell you too much. With us, we're
actually educating women on what these levels mean, How does
this impact you, how does it help you achieve your
health goal, whatever that may be. And I think what
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it's helping to do is really instill a way for
a patient to go into our doctor's office with targeted questions,
not just asking the doctor to educate them or what
their data means, which I think a lot of physicians
are put in that position to just give their patients
a medical lesson. The patients are not coming in with
targeted questions. My answer gent is really fluctuating a lot.
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It doesn't look balance at my progesterone is what can
we do? It's not what does this mean?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
What can we do? And then the other.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Big piece that I think we're doing is we're helping
patients feel validated, and we hear this from our users
a lot that they feel when you go to a
doctor and you say, I don't feel like myself and
it's very hard to treat. But now if I'm able
to show you hormone data over the course of multiple
months and you have symptoms tied to it, these are
pieces of information that a doctor can truly treat. So
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patients are feeling incredibly validated with the information they're receiving
and the answers are able to get.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You guys are definitely brilliant minds, all three of you,
and that brings me to ask Doctor Dais some important questions.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So, Doctor Daisy, what has been your biggest motivator.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
In pioneering a hybrid practice model that combines both cosmetic
surgery with ogyn expertise.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I think this panel just highlight why do what I do.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
One hand, you have an esthetic application which is also
medical with your two lift. The other hand, you have
a medical background with UVA. So my idea of tiring
this was just to make medicine, or at least women's
health a complete unit. A woman is a whole unit,
so we should not section and treat one section with
that and neglecting the other. So I really wanted to
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approach this with the idea of bringing everything together and
a comprehensive care for the woman.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
That way, she feels hurt in her health and her wellness,
in her beauty because we walk around with those three
aspects of us entirely as one. Amazing well, what an
inspiring conversation today.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
A huge thank you to you Lana and doctor Amy
and doctor Daisy for joining us and shedding light on
such vital aspects of women's health and wellness. And for
those who want to learn more, you can definitely visit
their respective websites, but I want to send you.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Both, all three of you off with an incredible farewell.
You are so inspirational.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And truly truly proprietary products that all three of you
women and services have created.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
So I'm very proud to have had you on the
show today.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
Thank you, Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
For those of you that want to learn more, visit
co two lift dot com or follow Lana on the
Gram at the Lana Kerr and at CO two lift
and for insights into hormone tracking and fertility, you definitely,
without a doubt must check out UVA at UVA dot
life or follow at UVA life. It's two o's oo
V A l I f E and if you're interested
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in the intersection of beauty and wellness, why wouldn't you be?
Doctor Daisim's work can be explored at doctor daisiime dot
com and on Instagram at doctor Daisim, and do check
out at Polished Beauty Podcast. Thank you for pushing boundaries
in the wellness space and empowering women everywhere. You're listening
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I'm your host, Zenzam's up next in the Phoenix Rising segment,
brought to you by Chicago's Chicken Shack nonprofit. We're joined
by contributor and podcaster Anna Devere and today she is
joined by the incredible Jerome Hayford. He's a licensed architect,
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public artist, and an educator based in Harlem, New York.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Right here, he is.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
The principal of the award winning Jerome Hayford's Studio, which
produces build projects and artworks nationwide, and the core initiator
of Dark Matter University, where he received the Black Visionaries
Award back in twenty twenty two. Now, if that wasn't enough,
he's also an assistant professor at City College's Spitzer School
of Architecture, where he co directs the Place, Memory and
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Culture Incubator. They're going to join me today to talk
about his meaningful impact in the architectural world and how
he works to highlight and elevate important voices and pieces
of history with new creations.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Welcome to the show, my friends. Hello, Hello, let's side
right in Ana. Welcome back, Jerome. So nice to have
you on today.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Happy to be here, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So you are currently based right here in Harlem, but
you originally came from the Midwest. I can imagine you
experienced quite the shift when transitioning from one place to
the other.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Just some shift, right, And it's clear through your work
that you hold great value in culture. So can you
talk about your sense.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Of purpose in being a cultural architect and what drives
your vision.
Speaker 12 (26:19):
Yeah, when I say cultural architect, I think for me, people,
culture and history are really providing a lot of exciting
material for me as a designer and an architect. I
grew up in a single parent household in the Midwest
than Akron, Ohio shout out, and I really wanted to
be an artist, and my fascination with architecture really began
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with just drawing anything, any buildings that I could see
back there in Akron, and I thought at that time
I knew what architecture was. And over the years I've
really been reminded every day that the arts and architecture
are really so much more and so much better, and
when we first encounter them, they're the kind of gift
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that keeps on giving, so fast forward to today. In
my practice, I really am insisting that architecture, like the
other arts, is fundamentally a cultural endeavor, and that means
that it's the built environment is really an extension of
our humanity and that really that kind of belief for me, really.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Drives my practice. That's beautiful.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
I want to say that I feel very fortunate that
I was able to walk into an installation of yours
in Marcus Garvey Park in Harlem. It was a beautiful day.
Can you talk a little bit about your vision because
I felt the impact of it and I want you
to share, like, what do you mean about doing futuristic
installations that also have a sense of the ancestral past.
Speaker 12 (27:45):
The installation is called sankofa which that name, for those
who don't know, really derives from several different African traditions
and is depicted as this bird, the sankofa bird that
looks back to history while it's walking forward into the
future as a kind of value and so This project
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was really conceived of as the Circle as an interactive
public installation that was thirty is thirty two feet in diameter,
and is this kind of beautiful open air enclosure made
of steel wood and a giant woven canopy that folks
sit underneath of and host events and enjoy themselves. So
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that you know, the ancestral aspect of this is that
the inspiration for that pavilion came about for looking at
indigenous architecture, traditional African architecture that we see today still.
And then the futuristic is that, you know, I'm a
contemporary designer, so we used AI, we used digital software,
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and so the feel of it is very fresh and new.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
At the same time, You're just brilliant, is why we
bring him easy, brilliant.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Make up song weezy.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But it's not I couldn't vision how complex this might be,
and you delivered it like it was a seamless vanilla project.
And I'm like, it didn't happen that fast and that easy,
But kudos to you for making it seem like it
was step one, two and three. But the projects and
artworks from your studio, and this is what I really
want to talk about they often look to highlight marginalized
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histories and unlock what we call this new imaginary right
for architecture and design and cultural infrastructure, which I.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Think is what really sets you apart in your field.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I know you and your team have worked on many
complex sites, including collaborations with the Harlem African Burial Ground,
Roots to Sky Collective, the Park Avenue Armory, and the
National Black Theater. Now engaging with both urban and rural contexts.
Your studio I'm seeing consistently focuses on sites of black
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or Indigenous history and cultural and that cultural significance nationwide.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
So what is your vision for how we should.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Honor and memorialize these significant sites.
Speaker 12 (30:02):
Yeah, so, you know, I would say this really working
in that space, which you know is really I think
an inclusive endeavor began about maybe eight or about eight
years ago now when I became aware of the Harlem
African Burial Ground, which is a site that is still
being worked on archaeologically and thought of for an eventual
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living memorial. And for me, my vision for these sites
as a designer is that they sort of changed us
as much as we change them, and these kind of
histories really are this invitation to think differently about design
and to bring in some of this other material that
hasn't really been focused on in art and certainly not
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in architecture. There's not always a lot of archives there
to work with, so you have to really be imaginative
in how we even do memorials or public spaces that
I think for that I think also can take on
the act of repair and that challenge as well. So
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how can we, you know, start to think of memorials
as something that is a lasting thing that is sort
of unfolding over time, that is, that is helping to
repair the environment around it and also helping to repair ourselves.
Speaker 13 (31:25):
I want to highlight one more thing before we move
on to a different project, is that when I was
in Marcus Garvey in Sankofa, you actually had benches that
included vining plants that the community two years later is
still tending those tender little plants. You know, you actually
got married in the upper installation in that park, and
it feels very much like you've created sacred space, and
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I feel very honored to have witnessed, like what you're
talking about, how important it is to the community that
they tend that as their own sacred space much more
than just an architectural phenomenon. It's really achieving what it's
set out to do. Congratulations, as Zen said, we're both
blown away. I want to talk a little bit about
the Wake. It's your first place competition design in the Wake.
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I'm sorry the name is there and it's for Africa.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Town in Alabama.
Speaker 13 (32:17):
Can you talk a little bit about that project and
what it represents.
Speaker 12 (32:20):
This community really sort of shot into the spotlight around
twenty nineteen with the rediscovery of the quote unquote last
slave ship, the Clotilda, and there's now been documentaries made
about this. Questlove did a documentary about this because he
has roots there. But that's the context by which this
community have. You really are one of the only, if
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not the only black community in the US that have
a coherent link back to Africa through the record of
this ship and that history, and so it's super important
at a national or international level. And they put forth
a company looking to create a cultural mile all throughout
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this community that also would repair the environment and produce
different sites that can also be a support system for
this community which has a lot of economic, chronic, economic
and environmental trouble. So we worked on the second of
these four sites and proposed really almost giant versions of Sankofa,
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something that really took the imagination of what it means
to think about African history in the United States in
this new land, and mixed together texture fabric at the
scale of these large venues that will eventually post a
replica of that ship, which I think is a really
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important public monument to that history. We can't take for
granted that history is accepted by everybody in the United States,
so I think more monuments that sort of insist on
the truth of that hitty are really important.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I love that you're really truly looking at this as
an entire nationwide exhibit, if you will.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
So I want to talk about Dark Matter University.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
This tell us more about this and about what this
space and about why this space is so unique. Number one,
I love the name Dark Matter University. But through this
trans disciplinary network that I understand, it's geared towards new
models of design, pedagogy, and practice, which you are a
coor initiator of. So please elaborate on this.
Speaker 12 (34:33):
So dark Matter University or dark Matter you because it's
not technically a university, which is also allows it to
be special in this way. I love that you're describing
it as a space, because it really is a spade
and it is an architecture, but it's an architecture that
is now really over the both physical networks but also
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virtual networks. So a group of us in the design fields,
a lot of different emerging designer designers who are also
in academia, many of us of color, just started to
meet regularly and create a network of support and mentorship,
and also started to do a lot of design work together.
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So we create exhibitions, we create events, and we do
a lot of outreach and awareness building around the possibility
of working in this kind of interdisciplinary way with folks
who you may not be physically proximate to, but how
we have a kind of ongoing collaboration over the airways
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that's really innovative.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, we are officially out of time. We're at the
end of our date, my dear friends. Thank you so
much for joining me.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Jerome Anna.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's always a pleasure to have you on, but you
are truly inspiring.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I love what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Keep up the great work and we will continue to
share your voice with our listeners.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
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Speaker 3 (37:14):
Sam's back in the Hydration with Heart segment brought to
you by Once Upon a Coconut, Live from my Heart Headquarters.
I'm thrilled to introduce two trailblazing figures who are redefining
wellness and healthcare accessibility. Doctor Joe Puma is a renowned
interventional cardiologist with over three decades of groundbreaking work. As
the founder of SORE and Medical Doctor, Puma has not
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only pioneered life saving heart scans, but has dedicated his
practice to improving cardiovascular health access in underserved communities. Joining
him today is Kenya Gibson, co host of The check In.
She's also known as the Marathon Mama. Kenya's wellness journey
has captivated audiences nationwide, inspiring others with her message of
empowerment through movement and mindset Together. She and doctor pus
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Uma launched the check In. It's a healing series to
bring vital health resources to the hip hop community and beyond.
Today they're here to discuss heart health transformation and a
mission that crosses boundaries. Welcoming now to the show are
my dear friends Kenny Gibson and doctor Joe Puma. Welcome
to the show, superstars.
Speaker 14 (38:18):
Great to be here, Thanks for having us sin.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Okay, we're going to dive right in because there's so
much to unpack here. I'm going to start with some
basic statistics. So, according to the American Heart Association, black
adults are thirty percent more likely to die from heart
disease compared to their white counterparts, and that's partly due
to systemic barriers and health care access. So, doctor Puma,
you've made it a point, a real point, to advocate
for minority health in underserved communities. What first led to
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this mission and how has it specifically? I want to
shape your approach to making cardiac care more inclusive.
Speaker 14 (38:52):
Well, that's a great question. And you know, if you
spend your life in hospitals every day, especially here in
New York City, which is really diversed, you get to
see patients from all different backgrounds. It really hits home
that we have a problem. There are real disparities in care.
And while I don't want to be political about it
and talk per se about race or poverty and things
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like that, what I do want to do is just
recognize that, you know, when your kitchen is on fire,
we shouldn't be, you know, spending a lot of time
talking about a.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Leak we have in the bathroom.
Speaker 14 (39:25):
And in underserved communities, in the black communities, the kitchen
is on fire, they have a higher incidence of heart
and vascuar disease, which is the number one killer worldwide.
They have worse outcomes. They come to our attentions, and
when they've already have more advanced disease, they have more complications.
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So in my little world, at least, I've tried to
find platforms and ways to educate, to raise awareness, not
to preach, but to try and embrace people where they
live and help them with their health care journey to
improve their hard health, ultimately making them feel better and
live longer.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It's so refreshing to see a specialist like yourself step
outside traditional roles to really focus on health equity because
no one is really doing it, and in a healthcare
landscape that's often criticized for its inaccessibility, especially for minority communities,
your commitment really offers a powerful example of how healthcare
can move from reactive to proactive in supporting these patients.
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So kudos to you now, Keny, I'm going to focus
my attention to you for this one. So there was
a recent survey from the National Institutes of Health and
it revealed that only twenty three percent of adults recommended
physical activity guidelines, with even fewer from underserved communities. So
you're a marathon runner and a wellness coach who's overcome
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some health challenges, but through movement mainly, can you share
how your coaching philosophy is designed to break down mental
barriers in communities that may lack access to fitness resources.
Speaker 15 (40:56):
For sure, So movement is medicine, right, Think, like, if
you're moving around for a few minutes a day, whether
you're walking up the stairs or you're taking a jog
around the corner, I think it's important to just start
where you are. You know, I've been in the fitness
industry for the past ten years and I will say
I was not always a marathon runner. I didn't start
that way. As a matter of fact, I used to
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despise exercise wasn't my favorite thing to do. But realizing
that I had underlying diseases in my family, like diabetes, hypertension,
things like that, I knew that I had to get active,
and I knew I had to create an active lifestyle
in order to really, you know, come against some of
those core mobidities that we experienced later on in life,
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particularly as a black woman.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Right.
Speaker 15 (41:40):
So one of the things with me is that I
just felt like it was important to find an authentic
space where I could create, you know, some mindset coaching
get people to think past their limitations. Marathon running was
a big, you know, a tribute to that where I
was able to get out run and I found that
when I was running that I wasn't thinking about a
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lot of things. I was just thinking about the one
thing that I was doing at that particular time. So
when you take the mindset or the thought process of
running and you make that applicable to your mindset or
getting past a certain goal or threshold, I think that
they're both intertwined. And I've been able to use running
as a method to kind of surpass and create some
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tenacity in my life.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Wow, I love how you tied that together.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's actually really inspiring when you backtrack and look at
this journey and more importantly, your emphasis on mental barriers.
That's key because studies really tell us that our mindset
often dictates our ability to stick to health goals right,
and so for communities with fewer resources, that mindset shift.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It's everything. So what you're offering isn't just.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know, your perspective, it's an invitation to transform on
both a mental and physical level.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
And so I commend you for that.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Now, Doctor Puma, the check In series is taking healthcare
right to the community rather than waiting for people to
come to you. How did you and Kenya decide to
create this initiative and what impact are you hoping that
it's going to have on the trust these communities feel
towards the healthcare system.
Speaker 14 (43:09):
The key thing was that, you know, sometimes you're lucky
in life and you meet people that not only are
like minded, but are authentic, are sincere, and have passion
as well as compassion. And because of that, we started
to understand a little bit better. Having many conversations on
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many different platforms with patients from these communities, and what
we found, you know, basically falls into I think two
different categories, and it's a male female issue. On the
male side, tremendous fear, just the fear of even finding out.
Women on the other hand, probably not a surprise to you,
are way more informed and way way further ahead of
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the curve. They go to the doctor, but there's no
easy access. They don't have high quality care in their community.
And what really came through was that it appeared that
even though they expressed themselves, they articulated their problems, it
didn't seem like anyone was listening and acting on what
their issues were. And so we've been really fortunate and
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that we feel like we've had a great impact on
a number of people's lives. There are people walking the
earth today because we've started the programs we've had in
the partnerships that we had.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
So the question becomes, then.
Speaker 14 (44:27):
How do you reach a broader community, And that's where
the idea for the check in came. And so what
we wanted to do is we focused on the hip
hop community. The hip hop community, as you know, is
losing a lot of you know, great people and great
artists prematurely. Fat Man's Scoop in his fifties while he's performing,
has a cardiac arrest. A lot of it has to do,
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I think, with education and awareness, and so what we
wanted to do was try and merge entertainment stories, real
stories about real people that have accomplished things in their life,
but at the same time talk about their health journey
and the challenges that they've had in their life.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
So, Kenya, through the check In, you're bringing both education
and physical resources to hip hop communities and beyond. How
has partnering with doctor Puma and Mano helped you amplify
this mission and what's been the most surprising reaction that
you've encountered so far.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 15 (45:23):
I would say, in addition to resources and education, we're
creating access right because that's the results of everything that
we're doing right, making people realize that there is an
option for them when it comes to their health care.
It's not as unaffordable as you think it is. I
think there's a lot of misconceptions when it comes to
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the healthcare space and like what's affordable and what's not.
And I think that there is this stigma, particularly in
communities of color, that we can't afford certain things. But
I also say that we culturally spend money on things
that don't make a lot of sense, and we need
to make sure that we are taking care of our health.
So ironically enough, the Sora Marketplace has a setup where
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you can go on there and you can really see
how affordable it is to get this scan with or
without insurance. And I think accessibility and information is important
because it shows you that you're not being left out right.
I think that people think that they can't afford certain things,
and when you can physically see what's available to you,
it shifts your mindset. And just to your point about
like you know, working with Mano and doctor Puma, I
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think one of the things that was most intriguing to
me about doctor Puma when I first met you was
your heart for the community and your heart for people
who don't necessarily look like you, right, And I felt
a certain sincerity from you, and I felt like, as
a human being like that gravitated towards that, and that
just showed me how authentic you are. And I knew
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from there that we could build what we're building now,
and it's evolved into this thing where now Mano's involved,
and I think he brings a certain dynamic to what
we're doing that's real and relatable, and I just feel
like we all contribute to the puzzle the way that
it was meant to unfold.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Now, the CDC has found that preventative care could reduce
the economic burden of disease by nearly two hundred and
seventy billion dollars annually. Yet many communities still lack access
to early diagnostics. So doctor Pum is pioneering this space
without a doubt and pioneering accessible diagnostics.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
So how do you view the.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Role of technology in bringing proactive health measures to those
without easy access? I mean, could tools like your sore
and heart scan eventually become a bridge for these communities?
Speaker 14 (47:37):
Well, they ought to be. And the real question is
why aren't the large institutions doing this right? Why is
it that a small independent medical practice like Sovereign Medical
is the only practice in New York, whether it's hospitals
or practices, that has the most advanced CT scanning. We
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trademarked it the sore in Hearts Can because a it's
the most advanced and fastest CT scan. And when you
image the heart, the heart's moving, so you need super
fast imaging. B. We have the most experienced technicians and
nurses that have been doing this for over ten years.
Just focus on cardiovascual disease. And three our process, the
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medications we use, and the process to lower the heart
rate to get the best images. As well as a
fact number four that most scans are managed and operated
by radiologists in hospitals, and we're operated by cardiologists that
and only focus on cardiovascual disease. We image only the heart.
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But what technology is supposed to do, right? You know,
every several years, our computers get faster and they get cheaper. Well,
that's what technology should do, and imaging in medicine is
doing that, but we're not bringing it to patients. A
simple three minute scan with our technology covered by insurance currence,
no cost out of their pocket, can give them such
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context that I promise you if they walk into our
office or any place in this country and get a
scan at this level, in this quality, they will automatically
be able to live longer if they take those results
and use them properly.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
It's remarkable to consider that technology right is the bridge
that finally closes these health gaps, and too often high
risk communities are just left behind when it comes to
innovations in healthcare. So your work feels like a giant
step forward, really leveling the playing field, and that's both
refreshing and inspiring. Now, according to the American Psychological Association,
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people who set health goals with community support are fifty
percent more likely to maintain these goals long term. So, Kenya,
your journey is an incredible testament to resilience. How do
you incorporate mental wellness alongside physical activity, especially for those
who are dealing with challenges like chronic illnesses or socioeconomic stress.
Speaker 15 (49:57):
While I just personally took a mental health week myself
last week, and I wasn't sick or anything.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
I just needed a break.
Speaker 15 (50:03):
And so for me, I just think it when it
comes to mental health and it comes to health in general,
it's not really a color thing. It's a personal choice thing.
And when you realize that you have options for you available,
you start to choose better when you know better for yourself.
So for me, I think it's important to teach people
how to put themselves first, how to put their health first. Right,
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that you are important and that you know if you're
not well, most likely the people that are around you,
your family, your friends, your community, they're not going to
be as well off.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Right.
Speaker 15 (50:34):
So I'm trying to teach people how to take care
of themselves just from a spiritual level, a mental level,
and then a physical level, because I feel like it's
all cohesive and it all works simultaneously together.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Thank you both so much for joining us, Doctor Puma
was a pleasure having you here. Thank you for contributing
to the expert on the microphone series Zen.
Speaker 14 (50:53):
Thanks so much for having us, and thanks for making
us part of your community and all you're doing for healthcare.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah, definitely check out Coach Kenya. You could head to
coach Kenya dot coach or check her out on the
gram at coach Kenya that's spelled with y k e
n Ya and doctor Puma is at soorin medical and
y and you could head to their website and check
out how affordable this scan truly is. Soorinmedicalany dot com.
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