Aziza Kibibi; Dr. Stanley Okoro; Dr. Shereen Teymour

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the Center for Disease Control estimates that one in nine
girls and one in twenty boys will experience sexual abuse
before the age of eighteen, and experts believe that the
real numbers are even far higher.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
When it comes to incest, the truth is even more hidden,
buried under layers of fear, stigma, and silence. Survivors often
endure years of abuse in secrecy, trapped by loyalty to
their families and a lack of legal protections. Today's guest
knows this reality all too well. Aziza Kibibi is an author,
award winning advocate, experiential trauma consultant, and content creator whose

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childhood was marked by unimaginable abuse at the hands of
her father, abuse that resulted in five pregnancies and four births.
Instead of letting her trauma define her, Azisa transformed it
into a mission, protecting children, empowering survivors, and break the
generational cycles that allow abuse to persist. As the founder
of Precious Little Ladies, Inc. And author of Unshamed, A

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Life Tainted, she's working to criminalize incests in New Jersey
and using her growing social media presence to reach millions
with a message of prevention, healing and justice. Here to
shine a light on the hidden epidemic of incest and
sexual abuse. Her story is igniting legislative change, community healing,
and global awareness Aziza, it's an honor to welcome you
to the show, Superstar, Thank you then, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
It's an honor to be here.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm so excited to chat with you because not only
are you inspiring, but you truly are a trailblazer. It's
an honor to chat with you, and I can't wait
to let the world hear what you have to say.
So I'm going to pivot right away to the decision
to speak out, which was not that easy. I can't
imagine so many survivors take decades to tell their stories publicly,

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even if they ever do, and speaking out means confronting
not just your abuser, but an entire culture that avoids
these conversations. So can you take us back to the
moment you decided to speak publicly and what finally gave
you the strength to share your truth.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Well, it's something because there are actually two moments that
I think I could connect with because of the fact
that I was silenced by my father for so long.
The abuse was from my childhood, welled too my adulthood,
so I had been conditioned to keep secrets, to keep silent,
to not share, so honestly, the first time I used

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my voice was against my father, and that moment was
pivotal and led to everything else. The next time after
that was when I, my sisters and I reported him
to authorities, reported him to to the police, And I guess.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
You can say.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
The third final time, which I think more is what
your question is leading towards publicly, was when I shared
my story in a public speaking class.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
I was homeschooled, so I did.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Not attend traditional schooling until I was thirty five years old,
and that was community college, and it was there that
I had decided that I wanted to share my story
publicly as a practice, so to speak. I had already
started writing my book for therapeutic reasons. A lot of

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things had changed in my life. My daughter, who was
a result of the ancestuous abuse and who was one
of my children that was born with genetic disorders, had
passed away, so all of these things were happening in
my life. And the fact that we did report my
father then the trial had started.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
So here I was in Essayson.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
County College in a completely new environment than what I
was used to, and my classes and my professors encouraged
a lot of being old and honest to tell your story,
And even though they didn't know what my story was,
I chose to use my story as a vehicle for

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practicing my craft and the things that I was learning.
And when I did that in my public speaking class,
a young woman who would have been quiet for the
entire semester came up to me crying and she thanked
me for being brave enough to share my story because
it made her feel less alone. She had experienced something

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similar and she had never told anybody. I was the
first person that she had told, so outside of herself
and her father, I was the first person that knew
that her father had abused her and that just inspired me.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Wow. So that moment of deciding to speak up, it
truly is life changing. I mean, you've shown that courage
isn't the absence of fear. It's a decision to move
forward despite it. And then you come to find out
you're impacting others and you are a role model. That
must have really changed your perspective on things that You're
not in this just alone anymore. There are others out there.

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So let's talk about the healing and the rebuilding. So
healing from traumas is rarely linear. There are breakthroughs, there
are setbacks and moments of deep uncertainty. What have been
the most important steps in your own healing and what
do you wish other survivors understood about that process?

Speaker 5 (09:30):
I think the two most important steps.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
First is to accept what happened to you and accept
how it impacted your life. And sometimes I think that
that is what survivors is the most afraid of because
it can be re traumatizing. You had this traumatic experience
that was painful, and your instinct is to bury it,

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to forget it, and it's so strong that even specifically
with children, they will forget what they're going through or
disassociate completely and create a whole other personality to manage
the trauma that they're experiencing. So I think for the
healing journey, that first step is to acknowledge what you

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have been through and really look at it from a
different perspective. And then the next thing would be to
grieve the facts that this trauma has changed you and
that you will never be the person that you could
have been had it not happen. So that's what I employed.
I had to accept that all of the opportunities that

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I lost, all of the things that I could have
done because of what my father did to me, that
they just won't happen.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
I won't get that, so I had to come to.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Terms with that. Your honesty about the ups and downs
of healing is so needed because it lets other survivors
know they're not broken and that they're human. So thank
you so much for your transparency. So let's chat from
survivor to advocate. So it's one thing to heal privately,
but you just came full circle. It's another to put
your life into the public eye for the sake of

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others and your sisters and your mother. That takes a
different kind of strength. So how did you go from
surviving the unimaginable to building a platform that is now
influencing policy and inspiring change.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
One step out of time Let me just say that
one step out of time when that young woman came
up to me in my class and it inspired and
encouraged me to then use my voice more and speak
about what happened to me.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Then it was the next step.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Then my father was being prosecuted and I had to
use my voice to testify against him. So that contributed
to me building up my resilience to eventually get to
the place where knowing that my story could help others,
then kind of you know, powering through the fear of

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actually doing it and the fear of being judged for
doing it and just doing it anyway. So that took
like a lot of faith and a huge deep of
faith in order.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
To build up the courage to actually do it. Now,
let's chat about social media, because that is your megaphone.
So you've used social media to spark these conversations many
people avoid, and some of your videos have reached millions.
So how has social media amplified your mission and what
have you learned about connecting with audiences on such a

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sensitive topic.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
So social media has really amplified the things that I
have to share and the education and I'm raising awareness
because it reaches not only so many people, but such
a diverse group of people, whether that be race, religion, ethnicity,
and age. There are different platforms that have different age

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groups and audiences, and I've I've been able to adjust
my message tell or my message to these specific audiences.
So you specifically are on TikTok and I decided to
kind of find edit my message slightly so that they
can it'll be easily easily.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Digested by them, and it just took off.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It just took off. Yeah, you've turned social media into
more than just a platform. I mean, you've made it
a lifeline for survivors who might not know where where
else to turn, and they stumble on your page and
you are just a ray of sunshine and so much
hope for them. So I love that. Now let's talk
about the legislative impact. So many people don't realize that
incest is not explicitly criminalized in every state the way

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they think it is. That leaves dangerous, very dangerous loopholes.
So what changes are you pushing for in your fight
to criminalize incest in New Jersey And how will this
legislation protect future generations.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
So, currently, incest in New Jersey is only punishable by
the law if it happens under the age of eighteen,
and even then it's a very broad type of legislation,
so it doesn't include specific types of abuse. So what
I have done is drafted a piece of legislation that

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will be not only that will not only be specific
to different forms of incests, but also help to protect
and take into consideration that a person can be groomed
into adulthood and still be victimized even though you know
the world says well, when you're eighteen, you can make

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your own decisions and you could just stop things or
stop abuse if you want to.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
When we know that it's absolutely untrue.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
It will also increase the penalties. It will also increase
the penalties for incestuous abuse. This is why your voice
a visa is so important because awareness is the first step,
but action is what actually saves lives. And that's what
you're doing right And now let's chat. Let's chat breaking
taboos and changing this culture. So incest remains one of

(15:06):
the most taboo topics in our culture. It's crazy that
discomfort is exactly what allows it to thrive. In fact,
so how do we as a society begin to break
down the discomfort and taboos around incests so real prevention
can happen.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
To talk about it, honestly, to talk about it, and
thank you for bringing me on your platform to talk
about it, because that would be the first step we
have to. I don't want to say get comfortable with
the idea that incest exists, but we have to be
comfortable with knowing that is exists. So then we could

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push to make change and push to understand the impacts
of it. And honestly, more than anyone, I want to
reach people who are abusers or have the potential of
being an abuser. So I think that that is definitely
lea the first place to start and to listen. Honestly,

(16:03):
we could raise awareness, we could speak how but we
also have to take in feedback from those who are
affected so that we can address it the best.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Way we can. Yeah, that's a very necessary challenge to
all of us, right to stop whispering about the problem
and start talking about the solution, because that's when I
do think, you know, we are addressing the elephant in
the room, which brings me to again, your story is
difficult to even imagine, and yet people silently wonder how

(16:32):
something like this can happen in a family, and that
curiosity comes from really wanting to understand and hopefully prevent
this kind of abuse, Like you said, at least for me, right,
So for those who are wondering how this could go
on for years, what do you want them to understand
about the dynamics of control, secrecy, and silence that allow

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abuse to happen even within a home.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
I like everyone to understand that our culture, specifically more
specifically rape culture, patriarchy, misogynists, belief systems really contribute to
things like this because it forces it within the shadows,
It forces the responsibility of stopping it on It puts

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the responsibility of stopping it.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
On the victim.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Victim blaming is a part of why a lot of
survivors stay silent. A lot of victims don't report because
they're afraid that they're going to be held accountable. Also,
our social and legal systems are contributing factors. So I
use a really holistic approach between myself and of course

(17:40):
my members of my team from my organization, Precious Little Ladies,
to really attack and approach the topic in a way
that addresses all of the gaps and weaknesses within the
systems that allow predators to thrive and function.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, it's such a necessary truth for people to hear,
because until we understand how abuse hides in plain sight,
we can't protect the children who are living it right now.
So yeah, why thank you for helping them understand that.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
After hearing your story, many survivors and allies will want
to know where to start, either in their own healing
or in supporting someone they love. Now, if you could
leave one message for survivors and for the people who
love them, what would it be. Listen?

Speaker 6 (18:24):
And I say that for both for survivors and for
the people that love them, to listen. To listen to yourself,
Listen to your feelings, Listen to your body when it's
telling you that you have to take a break, you
have to meditate, you have to get rest. And then
for your loved ones, for people who love someone who

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has survived something like this, listening. Listening is a powerful cathartic,
empathetic tool because then our brain taken the information and
active listening, we've taken the information, we process it in
our brains, and then we could better kind of calibrate
our energy and our responsives to be supportive, to be encouraging,

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and to just flow with love.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
And I think at the end of the day, that's
the most important thing. Your strength is just amazing, your courage,
your advocacy, and it's more about the relentless dedication because
you're reshaping the way our society talks about and addresses
and incests and sexual abuse. And you've reminded us that
Prevention begins with breaking the silence, and protection requires legal

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reform and healing thrives in communities. So for those listening,
I mean I encourage you to all connect with Azaza's
work without a doubt. My dear, thank you so much
for coming.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
On today, Thank you sen for having me.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
And for those of you listening, you definitely want to
visit her website. You can go to Azezi Kebb dot
com and you can follow an incredible organization called Precious
Little Ladies dot organ You could follow her across the
ground x, Facebook, YouTube and all that good stuff at
Aziza Kibibi and at PLL Nonprofit. Definitely share her story,
amplify her message and be part of this life saving conversation.

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you so much for having me. Okay, let's chat. TikTok
has literally become the new skincare classroom, with over sixteen
billion views on the hashtag skincare alone. So while some

(22:58):
trends like daily est use are dermatologists approved, others like
lemon juice masks or at home micro needling kits can
do more harm than good. So a social media accelerates
how quickly trends spread, it also increases the potential for
misinformation when I'm looking at it from my perspective. So

(23:18):
what's your take on the TikTok skincare boom? How do
you separate the helpful trends from the ones that are
causing a long term damage? Totally?

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I think that TikTok has actually been amazing for sparking
interests in skincare. I feel like I'd never seen more
younger patients than ever coming in educated on skincare and
their ingredients and also fund protection. But the tricky part
is that the algorithm on TikTok and Instagram reward what's

(23:46):
catchy and not necessarily what's clinically proven to be safe
and effective. So when my patients come in asking like,
how do I differentiate what's harmful versus what's healthful?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I always say, if.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
A trend sounds too good to be true, like it's
botox in a bottle, or it's involving kitchen ingredients and
DIY projects your face, it's probably best to avoid it
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you know, you always want to look for advice from
a board sort of by dermatologists, because we're the experts
who are going to cite evidence and not people who

(24:19):
are just saying, oh, this worked for my skin. Because
skincare should be personalized. It's not something that's a one
size fits.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
All type thing. Yeah, and that's such a reality check,
especially for anyone who's tried something just because it went
viral without knowing the science behind it. I've seen lots
of skinfluencers, if you will, with severe burns, with irreversible
skin damage, with you know, conditions that were directly caused

(24:47):
as a result of you know, a viral trend. Now,
I want to talk about the most common skincare mistake. So,
according to the American Academy of Dermatology, nearly ninety percent
of adults either skip sunscreen daily or you use an
inadequate amount, making it the most common and preventable cause
of premature aging and skin cancer. And yet this one
habit could save thousands of lives annually if done correctly. So,

(25:11):
if you had to name the number one skincare mistake
you see most often in your patients, what would it
be and how can people correct it? Starting today? You
nailed it.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
It's going to be skipping sunscreen or wearing it inconsistently,
meaning some days you wear it, sometimes you don't, or
even not reapplying it every two hours. If you're not
going to apply it every two hours, it's as if
you never put it on in the first place. U
V damage we know is cumulative, even like things like
every day just running outside really quickly. It's all cumulative

(25:40):
damage over time, and it's going to lead to photo damage.
Things that are gonna look like fine lines, this coloration,
broken capillaries which make your skin look more red, and
even skin cancer, as you said. And what's crazy to
me is like I work in Manhattan. I work at
a cosmetic dermatologist at a dermatology practice, and so patients
come in and they spend thousands and thousands of dollars

(26:02):
on lasers and treatments to reverse the signs of aging,
and then at their follow.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Up visits they come in with a tan.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
So I'm just like, you're basically throwing if you're not
gonna put sunscreen on and reapply it when you're putting
yourself at risk for the health of your skin, but
you're also throwing your money kind of out the window.
It's like you're not gonna go to the dentists and
get a cleaning every six months and then never brush
your teeth in between every day. Like the consistency of
skincare and sunscreen is so important that if you're not

(26:32):
doing that, then everything else is kind of a waste
in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Now, let's check hyperpigmentation and the Spartian So hyperpigmentation, whether
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estimated forty percent of adults in the US, with higher
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patients compliance and clinically proven formulations to work effectively. I
always say, you know, clinically researched and clinically verified should
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explain the importance of compliance and patients and where do

(27:17):
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Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, So hyperpigmentations what probably one of the trickiest things
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(27:42):
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patience because it's not a quick fix.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
And even if you do get results quickly.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Like you're lucky enough to get results quickly, they can
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Speaker 3 (28:36):
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Speaker 5 (28:53):
Now, skincare in your.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Twenties, prevention versus overload, let's talk about that you mentioned
and alluded to something earlier that you're getting younger and
younger patients come in, so that surge in what some
call prejuvenation, younger patients in their twenties starting botox, retinoids
and multi step routines before any visible signs of aging appear.
There was actually a recent.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
Study in JAMA which is a dermatology research publication, and
they found that there was a sixty two percent increase
in preventative cosmetic treatments among millennials and gen.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Z over the last five years. But is more always better?
That's what I question, right, So what's your take on
the preventative skincare crase for younger adults. Is it helping
long term skin health or are we seeing the effects
of doing too much too soon. I think it's a
great topic.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I think prevention is great, and I always encourage people
to get into good habits early. But preventative doesn't always
mean throwing fifteen different active ingredients on your face when
you're a fetus, like you're fifteen, sixteen, even twenty years
I need, you know, like you're literally a baby. And

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I know people say I have a baby. I'm thirty three,
so I'm not. You know, I'm still a baby. But
like there are twenty year old old who are coming
in with like more complex skincare routines than what I have.
And I'm even guilty at times of thinking more is better,
you know, And a lot of times because of that,
patients come in with disrupted skin barriers, a lot of

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irritations from doing too much too soon, And so the
goal should really at that age be more so setting
a good foundation with a sunscreen, gentle cleanser, and a
retinoid if it's appropriate at the age of twenty. Not
every person is going to be, you know, a good
candidate for a retinoid, but I feel like some are.

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So that's why it's good to, you know, consult with
an expert and Bill assess your skin and tell you
whether or not you're a good candidate for certain actives.
And you can always build on that foundation, but you
can't always un do the damage from overtreating your skin
that didn't need it.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yet. I love that balanced approach. You're not saying don't
do it, but do it with intention totally. Okay, So
the side online patient conversation, yes, but how do you
navigate those conversations when a patient requests something trendy but
not necessarily beneficial or even safe for their skin. I mean,
I'm usually really honest.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
I always take these moments as teaching opportunities and I listen.
I like here, I like to hear you know why
they want to try this product, because it's usually representing
a result that they're hoping for, and then explaining the
risks versus the benefits.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I mean, one thing about me is I'm very candid.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I'm very honest, and after seeing all of the crazy
things that are out there, I'm always going to protect
my patients and be honest. And because my patients know that,
they often appreciate it when I say no, and I'll
sear them towards something that'll serve them better long term.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, that's such a diplomat a way to guide someone
towards what's truly best for them, right that approach. Now,
let's talk about tech in dromatology. So, from AI driven
skin analysis to fractional lasers and telandermatology, tech is really
revolutionizing how skin is diagnosed and even treated. So what
recent tech advancements in dermatology have made the biggest difference

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in how you practice and in patient results in office?
Energy devices have come a long way.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I think lasers are now more precise, they work more
safely on various different types of skin colors and types, and.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Same thing with ultrasound.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I feel like that really is huge in our practice,
like soft labor all thera, because these devices are great
for building collagen and tightening in a way that's natural,
It looks natural, and it has no downtime, which is
a huge plus from our patients.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
What's really cool, and I actually need to talk about this.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
At a conference, is that some devices are actually starting
to incorporate on AI and so they're collecting data on
things like energy setting, patient outcomes, and also patient skin
types that these settings are being put on through imaging,
and in the future hopefully they'll be able to recommend
even more safe and effective settings based on each person's

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skin type. So I think that's really exciting to come
as well as objectively analyzing your results, so patients, I
feel like, want more quantifiable data on what did this
treatment actually do for my skin instead of subjectively saying, oh,
I think I look better. Kind of having something to
analyze your skin and tell you exactly which ways it

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got better, I feel like will help expand the cosmetic
industry substantially in the future.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I agree. Yeah, it's amazing to see how tech is
not replacing the doctor but really enhancing what you can offer.
And that interpretation is critical now myth busting moments, so
misinformation spreads very quickly. Some skincare myths have been around
for decades, like you don't need sunscreen on cloudy days, right,
which couldn't be further from the truth. In reality, up

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to eighty percent of UV race still penetrate through clouds.
So wake up, people, So what skincare myths do you
wish would disappear forever? Okay, I have a.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Lot, but one of them, for the sake of time,
will narrow it down to that natural. I hate natural
and clean beauty because natural and clean don't mean safe,
like we have this weird note false belief that that
they are equivalent to safe. And you know, poison ivy
is natural, and as one of my patients recently.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Said, poop is natural.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
But you don't see us smearing it all over our
faces every day, you know. And natural can be great,
no one's hating on it, but it doesn't automatically mean better,
and equally, synthetic doesn't automatically mean bad, and also like,
what does clean beauty even mean? I I still am
trying to figure this out. I feel like it's frustrating

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as a dermatologist because it's clearly all marketing and it's
confusing people and preventing them from using something that could
really be beneficial to the health of their skin. So
I'm hoping that that goes away soon, although I don't
think it will.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
All right well, doctor Tamor, thank you so much for
shedding light on what's real, what's risky, and what's worth
investing in when it comes to our skin health. I
appreciate your immeasurable knowledge because there's a lot of misinformation
out there, especially on social media. So thank you so
much for coming on today. Thank you so much for
having me. For more information on doctor Sharen Taymor and

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her practice, you could visit Daydermatology dot com, or you
could follow her on social media for expert skincare insights
and remember the better brighter you is all about making
informed choices that help you look and feel your absolute best.
You can follow her directly on the gram at doctor
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area. You're listening to a
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Welcome back to the Going Deep segment, brought to you
by co two lyft in our Expert on the Microphone series. Today,
we're featuring doctor Stanley Ocoro, also known as the bow
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and humanitarian dedicated to advancing the field of plastic and
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under his belt. Doctor Coro flawlessly combines artistry and technology
and is internationally renowned as a key opinion leader in
this field. He's going to do me right now to
break down patient preferences, personalized treatment plans, and how he
helps patients optimize both the results and recovery. Welcome to
the show, Superstar.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
Thank you very much then.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Okay, well, very excited to have you. Let's dive right
in and talk about patients like Nini Leaks one of
your celebrity clients who has spoken very highly of you.
And when the real housewives of a Latta Alum come
to you initially seeking light bosuction, I mean your conversation
evolved into something much more personalized and in her case,
a so called mini BBL. So I'm sure Nini isn't

(41:34):
the only patient who's come in confident about what they wanted,
only to discover through your guidance, a different and more
refined path. So can you walk us through how you
approach consultations to help patients like Niini and all the
others truly understand their options and co create the right
treatment plan specifically for their unique body and aesthetic vision.

Speaker 8 (41:55):
Yes, we love Nini.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
Many patients come to us wanting to do different things.

Speaker 8 (42:03):
What I do is.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
A customized, personalized treatment planify patients and so like when
Ninini came, she wanted me to sculpt her ab, the men,
her waistline back and do a BBL. But and then
we always want to be classy and not trashy. So
I spoke to herself, what.

Speaker 8 (42:25):
Do you really want to do?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
You want all the focus to be on your butt
or you want to look elegant?

Speaker 8 (42:31):
She said elegance.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
I said, why don't we do this, Let's sculp this,
do this, this, this, and then put a little bit
of that here and there and give you a nice ship.
She said, sort of a mini BBER. I said, well,
not mini, there's not a mini about what I do.
But we're gonna call it a professional BBO is for
because I think you of so many actors and actresses

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here in Atlanta. Many of our practices are practice. Patients
are doctors, lawyers, account of professional. So that's why a
quarter professional bboor sort of MINIBBA. So as we guide
them through all of that stuff, we help them discover
the true self. So the whole idea is to enhance
their looks so they can.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
Enjoy your life.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
And that's the key. It's really finding that balance and
as a professional, educating on that roadmap, because what you
see on social media and what we see in pictures
doesn't necessarily translate to our body and it takes a
very seasoned set of eyes, if you will, absolutely to
point that out at the beginning of the consultation. Now,

(43:35):
Mimi's quote unquote mini BBL but there's nothing many about it.
Let's reiterate that is also a good example of a
rising trend in the esthetic industry. Right. While bigger being
better used to be the norm, more patients are now
seeking subtle, classy, sculpted enhancements that really highlight their natural shape.

(43:55):
So why do you think this is and what are
some of the most popular treatments you offer that aligned
with this more natural and proportion focused approach.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
Well, you put it very well. I mean we used
to be big, big, go bigger, go home. Nobody wants
that anymore. So specifically for that, let's just focus on
the butt for a minute, right, because that's what's happening.

Speaker 8 (44:16):
People used to want it big.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
Now most of our patients don't want to have a
very sculpted look. They don't want it big, they don't
want it saggy that that it's just perfect for their body.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
So most of the stuff, most of the patients that
had a big b beer I had reducing it now.

Speaker 7 (44:33):
So what we're doing right now mostly I do a
lot of bber reduction, what I call ready for this
quantum butt.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Right, So it's about ship. Most people want a nice sheep.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
They don't want they don't want a small butt that
I want a big butt. They don't want to look
classy and don't want it tight. They don't want to
saggy skin on the bottom. So so I just call
it a quantum butt because it's just it's this describes
everything together most people.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
Now, I want it to look great, the one look classy,
go be even on the breast right.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
So let's let's chat a bit about post procedure care.
So how do you guide patients through the recovery period,
which is just as important as anything else, and how
does something like COEO two lift fit into that process
as a tool to support healing and reduce downtime.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
I love COEO two lift. I use it and everything
I do from the face to the abdomen. If I
am a facial surgery, I use it on every time
I do microneedlin or any kind of facial place.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I love.

Speaker 8 (45:34):
It gives you the calming, the suiting field, and it helps.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Basically most people don't even know what that is, but
it is like hyperbeic oxygen for your skin. You can
do whatever you want, and if if your skin is
not really good, it will not look amazing. So start
with diet right really well, and then before your surgery
we want to do like a preoperatively emphatic drainage. Make
sure you get it of all all the excessis tissue

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in your body, so that weighs everything is prime for
your surgery. And then after the procedure depends on what
we do, as you know we do face, breasts and
body and then depend on what we do. We have
customized lemphighting drainage for the particular procedure that you do.
One size does not fit on every person. Your kia

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is like your fingerprint is individualized to you. That's what
we do here at Ggaplastic and then using COEO two
lift makes the skin look amazing. That's what we do here.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And to go one step further after what you just
finished saying, I want to go at looking specifically at
patients with darker skin because these patients of course are
more susceptible to keloids and hyper traffic scars and run
a higher risk of facing abnormal scarring after a procedure.
So can you discuss any specific techniques or innovations that
are particularly beneficial for treating this type of scarring. And

(46:56):
I'd love to hear your thoughts on again how CEO
to lift can play into this as well.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
Absolutely, our scars are not created equal and we all
heal differently their cultural differences, racial differences. So what we
do is customize the care to every patient. We are
in Atlanta, Georgia, so that there's a lot of work
called melanine skin. With skin, it's not if you be African, American, Hispanic, Asian,

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or any boid that has dusk and so in like
if you're doing surgery. In surgery, the kicks cards management
starts in surgery. How we close We call it tissue handling.
We don't just grab the skin and yankee together. You
have to respect the skin, okay. So we use special
susurine that reduces the tension in the skin, and then

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we'll finish that. We use special glues to current hold
things together, and then when they come back we take
that off. In some patients we take that up. COEO
two lift brings oxy which you would need for healing.

Speaker 8 (48:03):
Part of time.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
If you don't have enough oxygen, you don't hear well.
So and then we also monitor the patients as the
healing we are making adjustments.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
Sometimes we have.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
To inject tends to reduce the scar or even eliminated
scar hypertrophysica or chiloid. So people are prone to it.
So just knowing how to treaty and anticipation is the
key here. Planning ahead of time, knowing that somebody might
be prone to a BASCAR the best way to manage it.

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So I combine to you to live that combines so
intraleisional steroid most we call it canalog and other things
that we use.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
Pressure massage. These are part of our scar management protocol.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
It's all inclusive and it's all part of the story
that we believe to our patients.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
It's fascinating. You're right, it's all interconnected and if you're
if you're respecting the skin, which is the biggest organ
we have, then the rest will follow suits. So I
love that kind of narrative now shifting gears. In addition
to running a thriving private practice, you've shown a very
deep commitment to humanitarian work, which I love, traveling the
globe to provide life changing care to underserved communities while

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serving as a leader in several philanthropic organizations. And not
to mention, you were also in the Navy and served
as Chief of Plastic and Reconstructive surgery at the renowned
National Naval Medical Center in Bethista. And I mean when
I read your accolades, it was clear that you played
a critical role in treating combat wounded service members from

(49:37):
Iraq and Afghanistan and advancing breast reconstruction and training the
next generation of surgeons. You have the most eclectic and
impressive background in the lineup with series on our microphones
that we've had in a while. So how do all
these experiences shape your perspective as a surgeon and leader?
And how do you hope your humanitarian work is going

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to influence the next generation of plastic surger.

Speaker 8 (50:00):
Thank you. I do want to do a lot shout
out to my Navy ship mates.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
I was in the Navy, so I have also our
Air Force and Army bros and sisters, But go Navy.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
Go my experience from the Naval. Being in the Navy.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
What I gain that is the you need discipline, you
need empathy, team work and resilience to bring onto classic story.
So all those things that drive I mean, you can't
change the world from one place. I like to give back.
I don't want to take I want to give back.
So I travel the world helping people look and live better.

Speaker 8 (50:41):
Okay, that's my main passion.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Our foundation, the Georgia Plastic Foundation, that's what we do well,
essentially helping people grow and do better. When you when
you teach a man how to fish, they can feed
the entire entire village. So for me, it's my mentorship,
a mentor young sourjons. I mean that they call on

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people with all kinds of issues, of questions. I train
other classics. I guess in Georgia on all the advanced
technology that we have. So I believe in like when
Horizon Tide raises our both so help orders to grow.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
That's what I do because I mean it can't keep
all that knowledge to yourself. I like to share. Sharing
is caring. That's what I do and I received what
I tell people.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
I am blessed to be a blessing to other people
and that's what I give the most thanks for.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
So that's how we do it.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
You are such an old soul and a beautiful one
at that, and I can't thank you enough for coming
onto our program. I always learned something from you. You're
so inspiring. Your energy is calming, your vision is clear,
and you are your intentions are always so pure and
that's what makes you so special. So thank you for
being our expert today and I can't wait to have
you back on.

Speaker 8 (52:02):
Thank you, and I wish you the best in EO
Ficture endeav Us.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
That was our going Deep segment brought to you by
CO two Lift, and that was the incredible Doctor Stanley o'coro.
Definitely head to Georgiaplastic dot com to check out his
practice and follow him on the gram at Georgia Plastic
and at Doctor o'coro. You're listening to a moment of
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