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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. Welcome back to a
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Voice of New York iHeartRadio. This is the Millennial Mom Segment,
and we have a topic today that truly resonates with
parents everywhere. Joining us is Sarah Alan Beten. She's a
licensed mental health counselor and advanced Alcohol and Drug counselor,

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and she's going to be here to discuss her new book,
Parents in Recovery, Navigating a sober family lifestyle. She has
been a parent in recovery herself for over twelve years,
and her work such as a growing community of parents
looking for hope and structure in the often overwhelming landscape
of recovery. Studies show that over twenty million Americans are
currently living in recovery from substance use disorders, and many

(04:13):
are parents who face the dual challenge of staying sober
while raising children in a world filled with temptations and pressures.
Her new book is a lifeline, offering tools to cultivate
a healthy family environment while embracing a sober lifestyle. Let's
dive in and explore what she has to share. Welcoming
down to the show is the amazing Sarah Alan Betton.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Welcome superstar. Thank you so much. It's great to be
with you.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
So your book Parents in Recovery offers such a unique
perspective in the crowded world of recovery literature. I thank
you so much for joining me today because this is
such an important topic that I'm really eager to explore
and share from an expert's perspective. So, a recent report
from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration states

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that only ten percent of people with substant use disorders
receive specialized treatment. That's a pretty low statistic. Now, your
book offers support for those navigating this journey, many of
whom feel alone and under resourced.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
So it's powerful, Sarah.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
In a space where parents are often expected to put
themselves last. You're advocating for a structured, supported approach that
doesn't just treat addiction, but considers the whole family. It's
refreshing and a much needed shift. So can you talk
to me a little bit about what motivated.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
You to write this book?

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Sure, I think you spoke to This is a crowded
field of quitlet But there was a missing piece for
parents in recovery that was a nonfiction book with like
a field guide, not just a memoir telling and depicting
one person's story. I felt a calling to write this,
and the voices of all of the parents in recovery

(05:51):
in my book represent over four hundred years of recovery,
and I wanted to short circuit the process for people.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Wow, and studies show that children parents in recovery are
at a lower risk of developing substance use disorders themselves
when parents are open about their journeys. So your book
emphasizes the importance of parency about addiction with children. Why
do you believe particularly in this approach and how can
parents start having these sometimes difficult conversations.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Is there ever.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
An age where it's too early to discuss these topics?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, this book really is promoting a lifestyle, right, a
lifestyle of wellness and of recovery that gets transferred to
your children.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's part of your family system.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
And so it's not just about speaking about the addiction component,
but also teaching your children in advance coping skills the
things that we were missing that maybe let us down
the wrong path, as before we became parents or after
we became parents.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
There are people I interviewed that had both scenarios, and.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
You know, in terms of the disclosure, I really think
parents reflected that they had differing views on when they
felt comfortable talking to their children about their own history.
I think a lot of parents will let their children know,
you know, I don't use substances or drink, and they
notice it, right, because, let's be honest, it's part of
the mommi culture.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's part of our society. It's part of work.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Culture to have alcohol in the home and even at
children's birthdays parties. I mean, it's just it's it's kind
of everywhere. So you do stand out a little bit
when you are in recovery and your children notice that.
But it's not always a bad thing. As far as
the age of comfort to tell people I really leave
that up to a parent's a parent, however, I would

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as a therapist suggest that before your child is exposed
to substances and alcohol and their own environment, through their school,
through the community, that you have an honest conversation about
the genetic components as we would for diabetes, for cancer,
for other conditions, to help set them up for success

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in this world. That substances are there. You can't hide
in a hole somewhere. Also letting them know there's hope
that if you delay the onset of drinking to the
age of fifteen, you can actually decrease the chance by
forty percent of developing an alcohol use disorder specifically, and.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
That is huge news, regardless of your family history.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
So that means each year after that you're decreasing the
chance by seven percent of having this condition. So the
point is educating, arming our children with information that you know,
we're not seeing never ever drink or use the substance ever,
because it's somewhat unrealistic, maybe, but why don't you set
yourself up for chances of maybe having a healthy relationship

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to alcohol in the future.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Wow, you are so.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Spought on and you're breaking down a wall that many
parents in recovery feel they have to build to protect
their children. I mean, it's refreshing to see transparency reframed
as a powerful positive tool, and this might just be
a game changer for so many families. Now, you share
personal journal entries in Parents in Recovery, a choice that

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that really humanizes the journey. What prompted you to share
these sort of private reflections and how and how do
they really help bridge the gap between theory and real life.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Experience for readers. Well, I actually started this new tradition
in my books.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
With my first book, I put my own journal entries
into understanding the high functional alcoholic and I realized that,
oh my gosh, I actually had journals at significant points,
and I know in the self helped community. Narratives are
very healing and part of our tradition, and they're part

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of what people connect with and to your point, they
are the human part of all of this. So while
I want to arm people with research and statistics and
other women's and men's stories, I wanted to humanize myself
because I come to this topic both as an addiction specialist,
but also as a person in long term recovery.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
And your willingness to be vulnerable is truly inspiring. I mean,
it's a remind it's truly a reminder that recovery is
ongoing and complex. So for readers, it must feel like
they're right there with you, not alone in their struggles.
And I love that you frame the book like that,
and your book touches on social media's influence in our lives,
a topic that really resonates widely today. The Journal of

(10:15):
Youth Studies found that excessive social media use does in
fact contribute to feelings of inadequacy and isolation, especially among
young users. So for parents in recovery, I imagine this
pressure is compounded. What advice do you offer to help
parents set boundaries and navigate the digital landscape in a
way that really supports sobriety.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Those that have addictive issues are sometimes more prone to
and vulnerable to the quick dopamine hits that were designed
within social media. As parents in recovery, I think we
have a heightened awareness of preventative measures, and when we
see habits forming with ourselves or our children, we try
to maintain some level of emotional sobriety and balance, and

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that's something we want to instill to our children. I
think we also know that our children at higher risk
in some ways for addicted behaviors. And I do know
that electronics are on top of mind because they actually
enter our children's lives, possibly before substances do, and they
have a dopamine criming effect, which can then for certain

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children that are more prone to impulsive behaviors, that are
more prone to attention and focus issues, can affect their school,
their academics, their connections. Those with social anxiety get stuck
behind a screen instead of in front of people. However,
it's not all bad post pandemic. There are social support groups,

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access to resources that are virtual that we're never there before.
So as parents in recovery, we have more access to
meetings that are easier to get to without childcare, and
to more a greater variety of self help meetings.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
So I see that.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
There's a blessing but also pieces that you just need
to be more mindful of.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now, one of the unique aspects of your book is
how you categorize parenting styles in the context of recovery,
so quote unquote, intristic, extrinsic, and hybrid. So according to
a study published in the Journal of studies on alcohol
and drugs, certain parenting styles are more effective and fostering
resilience in children. Can you break down these categories for

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us and explain why these distinctions are so significant?

Speaker 5 (12:25):
In my own personal case, I was not a natural parent.
Parenting didn't come now, My nurturing nature didn't just happen
the minute I keep birth to my daughter. And then
I saw other parents where it just seemed to be
what they were born to do. And I believe that
all of that impacts our recovery and also our need
to and our ease at which we live in our

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lives and in the different domains of you know.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
All areas of our life.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
So what I was trying to figure out is is
there a correlation between if parents have ease which they
are parenting versus those that are just feeling like this isn't.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Really my thing? And does that impact or decrease substance usage.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
I think that there were certainly some parents that parenting increased,
and there's some that I interviewed that had relapsed as
while they were parenting started off sober.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Parenting was really the extra layer that kind of threw.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Them over the edge and they let go of their
own self care and didn't prioritize themselves. I think that
there were other parents this was really interesting to me
that had a trauma history and that when they became parents,
they became instinctually protective of their children and also additionally

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cemented in their recovery and their mission to create a
different life for their children than they had had. And
that really surprised me in some ways because I actually,
because of my own experience, expected a lot of parents
to feel a lot more vulnerability as a parent in
their recovery, but many felt more convicted.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Wow. Wow, that's very deep.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's fascinating understanding that recovery can shape parenting choices, not
only enriches the parent child relationship, but as you say,
it reinforces resilience. And this isn't just recovery, it's transformative parenting.
Research from the National Institute on Drug Abuse shows that
support systems greatly improve recovery outcomes. So you advocate for
building a robust support network, both within the family and

(14:31):
the larger community. Why is community so vital in recovery, Sarah,
and what first steps do you recommend for parents looking
to cultivate this kind of support.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Well, addiction is disconnection from yourself. Oftentimes it progresses to
a point of isolation. I think many parents that were
using substances maybe crossed the line where they started off
social and partying and fun and ended up alone, or
they were at events and just took things to a
level where they were in their own world and felt

(15:00):
alone and shame and guilt. So the antithesis of that
for recovery is connection and social support.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
The other piece of it.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Is that, honestly, alcohol is part of our societal structure,
and so when you remove yourself from that world or
you make different choices around that, it's important to have
another community or subculture in some sense that is supporting
your lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Change because you're going against the grain.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Parents are obligated, I believe, to have long term recovery
in finding other social supports. The first step in this
really is to find somebody to be honest with. It
starts with being honest with yourself, but then it can
also be a loved one, a family member or friend.
Maybe you know somebody else that's in recovery or that

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struggled with this. The other part of it is connecting
potentially with a therapist even talking to a primary care physician.
I know when I first got sober, I actually shared
it in initially with my obgi N, which is kind
of random, but they pointed me in the right direction,
and that doesn't always happen, but hey, you know, why
not give a shot to people in the community that

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may be able to point us in the right direction.
I also and just blown away by all of the
different choices that people have to show up at a meeting,
in meetings that are not just local anymore. Because remember
before support groups used to have to be in your community,
people would get embarrassed and scared to see people that
they knew. And now they can attend self help meetings
with people from different countries, from different states. There's something

(16:35):
for everyone because all of these different support groups have
different philosophies. Some of them are religious, some are non religious,
some are you know, so some are you know, divided
by gender, and then within some of those there's men's meetings,
women's meetings.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
So I think that there's there's no excuse to not connect.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
And I do know the secret to long term recovery
is having social support.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
So now let's check self care care often feels like
a luxury, especially for parents, but you argue it's a necessity.
Can you walk us through some self care practices that
you believe are absolutely essential for parents in recovery? Sure,
and to be piggyback on that, there was a certain
general report about the stressors that parents are under that

(17:18):
was released this past year and it was just astounding.
So if you're feeling like, oh my gosh, I'm drowning
in the parenting piece, for some of us, we got
sober before we had children, So then you add that
other layer on and it feels almost impossible sometimes to
quote unquote.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Put yourself first.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
However, what I really emphasize again is back to this
lifestyle approach where it's understood within your family system that
these things are requirements. Like we sit down and eat
meals right, we exercise, we do healthy things, but we
also have downtime.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
We take time to for ourselves.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Children that are growing up in a home with parents
in recovery know when they say I'm on a meeting,
this is my time. They start to adapt. It becomes normal.
It's not all of a sudden, It's not all of
a sudden this shock to them.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
If this is what they're used to. I do think
parents that get.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Sober, you know, after their children are used to them
being a different way and possibly giving everything of themselves
to a point where they can't maintain it, may have
a little bit of resistance to you know, mommy or
daddy needs a little bit of space and time and
also asking for additional support from your partner, delegating more.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
And setting limits and boundaries within your friendships.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
That can be hard for people at first, but those
that have been living within this lifestyle start it starts
to get normalized over time. But it isn't optional because
the truth is that when parents who are doing too
much get sober, they're unable to maintain. Alcohol substances are
a band aid. They're not allowing you to really feel
how actually overwhelmed you are. And so when you re that,

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the truth comes out and you start to realize that
things may have it may have been taking on too much,
and it's harder to hide.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Wow, you are brilliant, my dear, so true, and you're
challenging the guilt that often accompanies self care for parents
and reframing it as something vital. And this resonates with
so many listeners who feel stretched thin, but want to
do what's best for their families.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
So you are doing.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
God's work, My dear Thank you, thank you, thank you, Sarah.
Thank you more importantly for sharing your insights and your
courage with us today. Your book Parents and Recovery is
truly ground baking. It's going to be a resource that
I think reminds us all that while recovery may start
as a personal journey, its impact is truly family wid
So to every parent out there navigating these challenges, this
book offers wisdom, practical.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Tools, and more importantly, hope.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You can find Parents in Recovery and learn more about
Sarah's work at BENTONBHC dot com. And remember, recovery is
not just about abstinence. It's about creating a few sure
where every family member can thrive. You could head to
the Instagram page at Parents in Recovery. You could head
to their Facebook support group Parents in Recovery Support Group

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Speaker 3 (20:56):
Sam's up next in the Hydration with Heart segment, brought
to you by Once Upon a Coconut. Today, we're in
for a special conversation with a remarkable mother son duo
who've made waves in their respective industries. Pilar Scratch is
a celebrity stylist, media personality, and author who's made an
incredible impact in the fashion industry. She's known for her

(21:17):
transformative work with high profile clients. Her influence stretches far
beyond style. She's an innovator who continues to inspire with
her unique approach, especially to fashion. Joining her is her son,
River Mason Aromoselli. He's a young actor recognized globally for
his immense talent, including his induction into the Global Child

(21:37):
Prodigy Association.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
He's been featured in major.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Outlets like Forbes and The New York Times, proving that
age is no barrier to success. Together, they've made history
as the first mother son duo to receive the Presidential
Lifetime Achievement Award. Oh my goodness, we are in the
presence of some important people. We're going to discuss their
journey in fashion, specials and entertainment, their close family bond,

(22:03):
and the importance of mental health awareness. Let's get into
the remarkable story. Welcoming now to the show is River
and Mama Polar. Welcome superstars.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Hi guys, how are you?

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
River?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Hi, so excited to have you on the beautiful Pilar.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Okay, So, first, before we even get into anything, Pilar,
your career in fashion and media is widely known, but
you also hold a PhD in Business administration, and, according
to Harvard Business Review, professionals who pursue advanced education while balancing.
Successful careers often do so to deepen their specific expertise

(22:39):
and influence in their field.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
So I love that you pursue this.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
More importantly, only about two percent of the population holds
a PhD, making your achievement particularly impressive. So what inspired
you to pursue this advanced degree and how has it
shaped your approach to your career and the way you
influence others.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
River inspired me to continue everything. I had him so young, right,
so I just wanted to show him that the sky
is the limit and whatever he says his mind to,
he can accomplish. So even when it seems impossible or
you have that a restriction. You're a woman, you know
you're too young. There's no limit to success. You can
do anything. If you can think into your mind, you

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can achieve it. So he has been my biggest inspiration
in my writer or die. It's my little buddy. So
he's been my purpose for so long.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
And how has the PhD influenced your professional life?

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Well, I obtained it in twenty twenty three. Then I
got really sick. I was in a hospital. I almost
passed away from pulinary emblisms. And see the normous out
of normous. So I really haven't used it yet. I'm
just like literally recovering. I had to relearn her walk. Yeah,
so now I had to learn how to walk in Yeah, it.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Was really bad.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
I had to have a womb back. It was a
big thing. So it was really public online. So that's
what I kind of been battling with for the past
year and a half. So I haven't really used it yet,
but I do plan on it now that I feel
I'm starting to get like normalcy back to my life again.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
You got this girl, Thank you River.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Your talent has taken you far, very far at such
a young age.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
What has been the most.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Rewarding part of your journey as a young actor and
how do you handle the pressures that come with being
in the spotlight.

Speaker 8 (24:13):
The most rewarding part is like what I do, honestly
is just like seeing myself on big screens and I
could just like have all those bragging rice and like,
oh my goodness, is me on the big screen. I
just like seeing myself and like there's really no stress
because I just have the people around me that has
helped me, you know every day, like my mom, my uncle,
my cats. Yeah, I love my cats. And some of

(24:33):
my best friends at school.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
What are your cats names?

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Blue and Taco?

Speaker 4 (24:37):
I knew they were going to have semple names.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Now, the fashion industry has been about more than just clothing.
It's always been about self expression, at least I think so.
When you look at the studies, especially one in particular,
Journal of Fashion Marketing, found that eighty five percent of
people feel more confident when they're happy with their personal style.
Now you've built this incredible career helping people express themselves

(25:00):
through fashion. How do you think that fashion empowers individuals,
especially especially in difficult times.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Like you said, I believe confidence is key. So fashion
definitely inspires people by making them feel empowered. Making when
you feel good about yourself, you know your your your
best self. Right when you like your outfit, your makeup,
your hair, you're super confident. So it's definitely empowering. Opposed
to when I'm wearing ath leisure wear run it's at
a grocery store, versus when I dress up to go
to a red carpet, I feel more empowered. I feel,

(25:27):
you know, just beneakly me and clothes really can define
you and can enhance you.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, that can relate and young actors who have strong
family support, like the two of you, are more likely
to succeed in the entertainment industry. The bond between the
two of you really.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Exempleflies that I side.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
From the moment you walked in so River, you've been
by your mom's side through all of her achievements while making.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Strides in your own career.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
How has your mom influenced your journey and what's the
best advice she's given you?

Speaker 8 (25:56):
Honestly, my mom is like the number more reason why
I do what I would do because, like as she said,
she started, she started doing it because of me, But
I'm doing it because I heard. The best advice that
she's given me is just like I don't remember the quote,
but I remember in my head. I just don't remember
the words.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
This is purely choice. You can never feel if you
never give up. Yep, yep, that's the quote.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Much Mom comes in for the save. Absolutely, you guys
are like like a ping pong.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
I must say, River is the one who saved my life.
If I went and had he got me to the car.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Tell me about it. Tell me about this incident.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Well, I was having chest pains. It was really bad
and River kind of yelled at me.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Guys.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
He just said, if this was me, we would have
been at the hospital. He literally carried me down the stairs,
called the uber, got me a an uber and the
doctor said, if I wouldn't have came in, the pulinary
embolisms would have went to my heart and I wouldn't
have been here.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
And how long ago was this?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
This was a year ago.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
And it's important to note that River's thirteen now, so
it was twelve teven.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Boy, he saved my life, So I'm appreciative.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, no, there's definitely an angel by both of your sides.
So influencers like yourself, Pill are You're all over social media,
You're shaping trends, you're changing the industry, and when you
look at the stats, you know, the stats are the stats.
Vogue Business specifically said that influencers are now driving more
than thirty to forty percent of online sales, whether it's

(27:24):
in fashion or showing how powerful the reach can be.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
So, with your.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Significant presence in both the fashion and media industry, how
do you use your platform to influence positive change?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And what do you hope your legacy will be.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
I want to be someone that's kind and well, I
feel as though I am kind and giving and to
create a platform where entrepreneurs can merge and make their
dreams come true. When I started my magazine Fashion JxC Magazine,
we gave.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Back to a lot of entrepreneurs.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
They would come on set and it will work with
their favorite celebrities and it would be a blog spot page.
And then we have news, a news outlet, a major
news outlet come and cover. So give them the opportunity
to network with that without having the cost of a
publicist with a monthly retainer of like three thousand to
seven thousand dollars a month where they can't afford it.
So we commenced that in twenty fifteen, and we're going
to start it back up now that I'm healthy, coming

(28:15):
up this year, so that I want to be known
as someone that gives back and gives people opportunities and
makes a positive change and just isn't you know, it's interesting,
could be very shallow. So I want to make sure
everyone feels like a safety, a safe place in industry
to come.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Well, you're definitely a bright light and you've been given
another a second lease on life. Yes, and River assisted
in that maybe yes, so River, You've You've always been
featured in major, major media outlets, just like mom, recognized
as one of the top young talents emerging if you will.

(28:48):
New York Times specifically wrote child actors like River are
becoming the face of.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
A new era in Hollywood. So what's next for you?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do you have any upcoming projects you're particularly excited about?
And how do you see your career evolving?

Speaker 8 (29:01):
I just dropped my new book named The Unstoppable over
for me MASSELI.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, big time. Oh my goodness, you dropped the book.
He walks in here and he's like, I dropped a
book thirteen.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Okay, So your book's available, And what about career wise?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
What's the highlight of your career so far?

Speaker 8 (29:22):
You will live here. I think the John Legend music
video counts.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yep, that definitely counts.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Have yourself a Merry Christmas video?

Speaker 8 (29:31):
That's what it was.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Now, in times of difficulty, fashion entertainment, all of this
serves as an outlet for emotional expression.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Right that.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
You just have shown that creative industries like fashion often
provide that safe space for healing and reflection to which
you alluded to earlier. So you've faced some personal challenges
in the last year, and you've shown extreme strength and resilience.
So how do you balance your professional life with the
emotional challenges of personal issues? And what advice would you

(30:02):
give to others in similar situations.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
That such a beautiful question. I learned to you have
to disconnect in order to reconnect. I've learned to take
personal days where I just put my phone in D
and D and just force myself not to answer anything.
Because when you're consumed in this industry, it can literally
take over your life and it gets very overwhelming. So
just for your mental health, find things that make you happy.

(30:24):
I wouldn't care if it's learning how to tire shoe
or going for a walk or you know, going skydiving.
Whatever makes you happy, you have to live in that
because that's why, you know, when you disconnect, you have
to find you and the purpose of you without it
I find And if you get too engulfed in this industry,
it could literally literally consume you because it can be

(30:45):
a dark cloud. So you just kind of have to
find a happy place.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
That's great advice.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
River. How do you stay grounded and balanced with such
a fast paced career?

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I mean, what keeps you centered.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
Honestly, the things that keep me centered is like whenever
I'm feeling stressed, Like whenever I'm like really like stressed out,
I'll just go to like my mom, my uncle, my grandma,
people like that, and they'll always help me, like get
through it whenever I have a problem.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Now, mental health is something that touches all of us
in some way, and in the US, one in five
adults experiences mental illness each year. That's according to the
National Institute of Mental Health. Family members really often play
a crucial role in offering support and guidance. River, you
just mentioned that you go to whoever you can in
your support system, and communication is key and talking about

(31:33):
your emotions. So, phil are you recently shared a deeply
personal message about your twin sister, Madison, who's currently struggling
with her mental health. How has this situation impacted you
in your family and what message do you have for
others who are dealing with loved ones facing similar challenges.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
The post actually went viral and we actually got a
lot of leads on where she was. I've been in
not a hospital for a year, I stated, so no
one knew what was transpiring with my sister. She did
come and see me in a hospital, and I was
the last time I actually saw my sister was June
of last year.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
In what city?

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Nork, New Jersey.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Yeah, so they did fine, she's in California. They pined
her cell phone and Detective Franco has been working on
her case. It's been really, I want to say, overwhelming,
because my sister is a public figure as well, so
seeing the tweets and seeing the manic episodes transpire so
publicly on a platform where everyone is hitting me up
like polar what's going on?

Speaker 6 (32:29):
And you know, I didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Best advice I could give on mental health is when
you see the red flags, try to get them help
sooner when you even if you think that's just their art,
and you know, we all have some eccentricity to us, right,
So get them help sooner and try to be an advocate.
Where I went wrong is I was a high head

(32:53):
and I didn't know the signs were there, and I
would just assume my sister was, you know, making something up,
and it kind of triggered her. So even if she
is listening to this, she gets this. I really just
hope and praise and knows that she we love her
so much. We're advocating for her, and I'm not going
to give up on her no matter what. It's my
twin and it's just it breaks my heart even to

(33:15):
see the things play out how they've done it.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
But Madison is listening. I love you.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
You are loved, and we are not going to stop
until we get you to help that you definitely need.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And yeah, Maike shut out to Madison. Maddie come home. Yes,
now right next to you. You're gonna find it. Once upon
a coconut can. I want you guys to shake that
up and try it for me and tell me if
you like the coconut watermelon flavor. All right, I'm gonna
I'm gonna trust River on this one because this is
probably my favorite hydration. No, it's not, gonna just shake it, Okay,

(33:46):
here we go. I was looking at this like it
looks really good.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna keep you guys hydrated.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Oh this is good, straight up coconut water, no sugar added.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
That's the watermelon flavor.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
No sugar, no sugar. I like this.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, guys like so much sugar, but there's none.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, I'm surprised. This is really good.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
It's really good.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Ninety calories guys.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, and it's one hundred percent electrolyte replacement. It's nature's gatorade.
More importantly, you should try the chocolate one. The chocolate
one has just a tad of sugar added, but it's
all natural and it tastes like chocolate milk. It's completely vegan.
Big shout out to One Spond of Coconut. Thank you
both so much for joining us today. It was a
pleasure having you in studio.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
Thank you for having us.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Guys.

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Sam's up in just a few minutes in the Going
Deep segment brought to you by Co two Lift. In
our expert on the Microphone series. Today, we're joined by

(35:35):
the founder and CEO herself, Lanaker, and she is featuring
Reggie Gatewood, former farmer, executive and co founder of Organix,
which is a company with the mission to become the
most trusted and recommended cannabinoid company by healthcare professionals. Prior
to Organix, Reggie was responsible for the launch of several
well known products into the US, including the cardiovascular blockbuster

(35:58):
Plavix and the very well known Setic biostimulator Sculptruck. With
the CBD and skincare and cosmetic market experiencing exponential growth
in recent years with no sign of slowing down, They're
going to join me today to break down how both
CO two Lift and Coorganics are easing patient comfort and
well being and more importantly, changing the post procedure healing routine.

(36:20):
Welcoming now to the show is Reggie Gatewood and Lana Kur.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Welcome superstars. Hi there then, great to be here.

Speaker 10 (36:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
So excited to dive into one of my most passionate topics,
cannabis and carbon dioxide therapy.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
So Reggie, I'll start with you.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
As the co founder of a widely trusted cannabinoid company,
you found yourself in the perfect position for success, with
CBD products sales rising from one hundred and eight million
dollars ten years ago in twenty fourteen to close to
two billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
In twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
However, with this clear rise in interests, still, according to
a Forbes Health survey, one third of US adults just
don't feel confident in their understanding of CBD, such as
the differences between full spectrum, broad spectrum and CBD isolate.
So clearly education is still vital in this department. So
for our audience who may be less familiar with cannabinoid therapy,

(37:13):
can you first explain in simple terms how it works
and interacts with the endocannabinoid system.

Speaker 10 (37:20):
We all have an indocannabinoid system. Think of the word itself,
indo means inside. Okay, Cannabinoids are naturally occurring chemicals that
we already produce very naturally. So if you think about indocannabinoid,
that system is in place to help us maintain homeostasis.
Our bodies are constantly trying to get back to a
state of natural balance. However, it's not easy, especially environments

(37:43):
that we put ourselves in and including food or just
the environment itself. And so for cannabinoids, or will use
CBD as an example because you're familiar is in and
so cannabinoids interact naturally.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
With this system.

Speaker 10 (37:58):
And so if you can help the system maintain functionality
or even enhance its functionality, that might show up in
ways of how we experience pain, or how we sleep,
or how we experience anxiety, or overall just the inflammatory response.
And so really in short, that's kind of what the
systems meant for us to do, and how products like
Organics Clinical CBD can interact to help that system perform optimally.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Fascinating The answer has been under our nose the entire time,
plant based, one hundred year old plant. Now at Organics,
I know you offer several clinical CBD products, and after
launching your first product back in twenty twenty two, you
quickly became the most trusted cateminoid therapy by healthcare professionals
across multiple specialties in the US.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
So let's talk about just this.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
How is Organics working to reintegrate healthcare professionals who were
previously say, excluded from the conversation regarding CBD therapy to
become a trusted source on the potential benefits to support
the well being of their patients.

Speaker 10 (38:56):
So our products are only available through healthcare professionals, and
this is exactly why we want to bridge that gap
between the healthcare professional who may have heard of CBD,
probably get asked about it frequently by patients, but aren't
just real confident yet on how to respond or even
approach it. However, we know their patients are out there creating.
Like you said, earlier, earlier millions are spending billions of dollars,

(39:20):
and so our goal is to bridge that disconnect between
the patient and the healthcare provider. Well, in order to
do that, you're going to have to earn the trust
of both the healthcare professional and the patient, and that's
going to be through education. So we need so healthcare
professionals are responding very positively by the way to education
around the market. Hey, look around you, it's right under
your nose. One in four Americans, according to Galla, are

(39:41):
utilizing some sort of kannabinoid therapy. Many of them are
self treating, but they're going to a retail market that
may not be safe and the products aren't third party tested,
and so you need to be involved in this in
this conversation as a healthcare professional. So it's education around
the market, education around the science. So the ecs itself,
what do they know about it? Well, it's not really

(40:01):
primarily taught a lot in med school right, or in
medical schools or in pharmacy schools. So our goal is
to help bridge that gap around the science. And then
of course you've got to bridge the gap with their
staff and their office, but also their patient and so
organics because we're former farmer executives Chad Collins and myself
the co founders, we provide a bevy of resources, whether

(40:22):
it's healthcare professional education from organics you or down to
the staff, or down to the patient themselves with education
that looks similar to this, but we want them to
make sure that they know it's a surround sound of
education and also resources to help them have that conversation.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Confidently, I love the three sixty approach. It's truly what's
needed now.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Alanna, I'm going to switch to you because this is
such an important conversation that we're having right now, and
your company is really revolutionizing a lot of post free.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
And post procedure care. So Coeo twol Lifts specifically COEO twolift.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Pro shares this mission with organics to ease the comfort
levels of patients. It's always been at the heart of
everything that you're doing. And I know that the CO
two lift carboxygel is the only proven, medical grade topical
carboxy therapy treatment that doctors recommend, and CO two lift
Pro is also the strongest version which can only be
provided to patients by medical professionals.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
So this aligns perfectly with what Reggie is doing.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
So aside from its monotherapy benefits, I'm letting the audience
know this that it lifts, at hydrates, it titans, It's
often used in conjunction with other cosmetic procedures.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
We've been talking about this for over a year now
on the show.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
So, Lana, in your opinion, why is it so important
these days to minimize the patient's downtime post procedure and
how does CO two lift play into this specifically with organics.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, I think it's important because more and more patients
consumers are just informed as to what's available to help
speed up healing. People today want something quick, you know,
and what we're seeing is that not the surgical. The
surgery is important, but just as important is the postcare

(42:04):
because it's not only going to prevent complications, it's going
to speed healing, but it's going to enhance the results.
And like you know, Reggie's product, I mean, CO two
lift has been used, has been around for a very
long time. Carbon dioxide therapy has been around, it's just
now people are being especially here in the United States,
are being educated as to what it is and their benefits.

(42:26):
So because of the rush of oxygen, it's going to
rapidly heal. We're talking about minimizing the downtime by as
much as half the time. Also, the swelling. I think
when I think of surgery, one of the enemies to
surgery is inflammation and swelling, and the CO two lift
is very effective at preventing the swelling and the inflammation

(42:48):
and reducing the bruising time.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Now the sting with this theme, Reggie, as someone who
was responsible for the launch of a well known cosmetic
product like Sculpture, you're familiar with the child as a
patient may face post procedure. So coupling this with your
knowledge of CBD therapy, what are the primary benefits of
using organics products and how can they help aid in
the patient's recovery process.

Speaker 10 (43:10):
That's a great question. It goes back to the I'm
going to go back to simply the role of the
endocannabinoid system. And so you know, once a body has
been had a procedure and gone through whatever that procedure is,
it immediately starts the journey back toward a more balanced
healed state. Right, and so like Lana's products help certainly

(43:31):
with that's the tip of the spear. Relative to the
swelling and the inflammatory response, but also your indocannabinoid system
is also helping to lead that charge back toward or
that journey back toward, you know, recovery and balance. And
so for organics, look, we play a critical role helping
whether it's a post recovery maximizing sleep or and easing

(43:54):
the anxiety that was associated with the procedure itself, but
also with the indocannabinoid system. You you know that there's
much data around reducing the inflammatory response, and so, as
Lana so eloquently spoke to, her product definitely helps that
as well as systemically, you've got a system that's helping
it sort of from the inside inside out. And look,

(44:15):
if we're going to create an exquisite experience from the
beginning during the procedure and then after the procedure, then
let's bring products in that help us speak to that
more naturally, and also probably meeting a lot of patients
where they're already at with that process to help them
in that journey.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Now, I know, verification and evidence based backing is extremely
important to both of you, So Lana, can you touch
on why clinical trials and testing are so crucial in
advancing therapies and how and mainly how they help ensure
both safety and effectiveness for patients.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Today, I feel like trust in companies, trust in products
is at an all time low for the reason that
there's so much misinformation out there. I mean, you hear
the stories of even people using pictures from other companies
and using it and saying it's their own. Those things

(45:10):
create a lot of distrust, and then there's a sea
of products that are available to help sell the so
called issues or the issues we're facing where we're discussing
right now. So I think it's so important for a
company to invest in studies to prove the efficacy of
the product and the staatety of that product. And that's

(45:30):
one of the things that I like about. You know
what Regis company does and what we did from the
very beginning before we even launch the product. We use
the gel. We compared it with the injectable version to
compare and to see how effective is it. Is it
the same thing and the data shows it. We see
it anecdotally, but we see it clinically.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Now, Reggie, I know organics products are all rigorously tested
with extensive third party testing and IRB approved data separating
you from retail versions of kind of benenoid therapy. So
i'd love to hear your opinion on the importance of
testing as well.

Speaker 10 (46:04):
Well, it's for us, it's paramount. And so, as I
mentioned earlier, let's go back to what's happening in the
retail setting. Almost regardless of whether it's oral, topical, whatever
it is, you're talking about, upwards of eighty eight percent
of what's out there is mislabeled, and the majority of
them do not test for heavy metals, molds, microbes, pesticides. Yeah, exactly,

(46:25):
and so most patients don't know that. They assume if
I can find it on a store shelf, that's probably
going to be okay. And the reality is it's unregulated,
it's the wild West, and so at organics, you know,
if we're going to bridge that gap, trust is the
first step as well as education, and so for us,
you know, it's just a no brainer. We have to
third party test, and then we you know, we make

(46:45):
those results of the third party tests transparent on every
one of our bottles. You can look up by batch
what the CoA says the certificate of analysis, just to
show that's step one step two, we invest in IRB
approved data. We have in IRB approoved studies. We invest
in patient studies too, and so most recently we have
one that looked at overall well being. And so, without

(47:06):
going into the details, it's critical if that journey toward
well being, you think about what Lana, what you're talking
about relative to the post procedures and even prior to procedures,
what's going on in the mind around the.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Anxiousness around certain certain things.

Speaker 10 (47:20):
And so for us that was critical to say, well,
let's start with why most people would take TVD or
self report, and they self report around pain, leap and
anxiety for the sake of overall well being. That's a
well known survey of over two thousand people why they
self treat, and so those are the primary endpoints for
that first big study of ours with over five hundred patients.

(47:41):
Long story short, those two things alone speak to the
critical importance and how paramount it is for us the
third party test and invest in patient data as well.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Well.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
You clearly both are leaders in your fields, and I
love how both your products are so different but both
effective and achieving the same goal, and that's to make
patients feel better. Now one last question for both of
you before we wrap up here. So from your own perspectives,
how do you think offering these products revolutionizes post procedure
routines and ultimately changes the industry standard for care.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Lana, you go first. Well, first of all, I want
to say, just as a testimonial to organics, you know
we talked about a few weeks ago my procedure that
I did the vagin of plasty. Well, I used HIT
their products, the oil, the gel caps, and I used
it throughout the process and no doubt it contributed to

(48:35):
my overall feeling of well being, the fact that I
had no swelling, all of that. So I really love
his products and what they when they can do for patients.
The CO two lift carboxygel is revolutionizing postcare. We're looking
at some plastic surgeons for instance, are calling it the
new goal standard of post care because again it's not

(48:57):
just the surgery. They can only accomplish part of it.
The men the body has to kick in and start healing,
and like what Preganits is doing, it's really just putting
your body in a position to be able to heal itself.
And that's what I love about the CEO two Lift,
and then it's versatility, you know, in terms of it
can do so many different things. But as we're talking
about patient comfort, patients effected, the immediacy of it, the

(49:20):
versatility of it, that's what SEO two lift is doing.
And we're really as registered education is so important now
to just help people to understand it's a new category altogether,
in in skincare, in postcre in precare. It's something that
we think of, as you know, as the windex of

(49:41):
skin regeneration.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Now, Reggie, i'd love to hear your perspective on how
you think offering these products revolutionizes post procedure routines.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
So Lana said it, I think a new category versus
just a new product or a different product, it doesn't
do this justice for either one of us. And so
if you're introducing a new category, then you will almost
by default say we're investing in something that will become
what's next. And that's what Lana and I have done
pretty much our whole career. And so when you see

(50:11):
the light bulb go off with healthcare professionals who have
not been have not felt connected in a meaningful way
with a large segment of their own patients who are
self treating and not getting answers from healthcare professionals. Yet
this is a safer, more alternative, natural solution, which, by
the way, as Lana said earlier, for a lot of reasons,
that is just in the zeitgeist in general. People are

(50:33):
seeking those out and so if we can help them
do that with their patients and enhance those experiences, then
you know, I would be more likely to refer a
practice that did that for me, and that is the
lifeblood of all practitioners, especially today. So if we could
play a critical role in that process, then you know,

(50:54):
mission accomplished.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Well, we are officially out of time.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I thank you both for joining us today with such
an enlightening conversation filled with knowledge and transparency. Lana, thank
you so much for coming on again.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Worse and Reggie, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 10 (51:09):
My pleasure, thanks for having me truly enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
That was Co two Lifts Going Deep segment, and that
was founder of CO two Lift and the misx skincare
the amazing Lina cur Definitely check them out online at
co two lift dot com and on the gram at
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