Eddie Fernandes; Phil Cowley; Dr. Michelle Tarbox; Dr. Daisy Ayim

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In the Hydration with Heart segment brought to you by
Once Upon a Coconut Today, We're featuring fast Eddie Fernandez,
pro golfer and three time world long drive champion. He
currently holds the number one spot in the senior division
a long drive tour. He joins me today to chat
all about his career, social activism, and staying healthy, happy

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expert advice on wellness to help you take control of
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as Fills, my pharmacist and a trusted voice in health education,
is here to break down some important information about products
making waves drinks that claim to neutralize alcohol in the bloodstream.

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We're going to be discussing whether these products.

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Are as good as they sound.

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Stay tuned for pro golfer fast Eddie Fernandez.

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You're listening to a moment of zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zen SAMs today right here at iHeart
Headquarters in the once Upon a Coconut Hydration with Heart segment. Today,
we're featuring fast Eddie Fernandez. That's right, pro golfer and
three time World A Long Drive Champion, just fifty three

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years old young, he's one of the fastest swingers on
the golf club in the world and currently holds the
number one spot in the Senior Division A Long Drive Tour.
He's won over fifty Pro Mini Tour events, fifteen plus
long drive events, and he even made the PGA Tour
champions Q School Finals back in twenty twenty one. Now,

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with his longest ball in competition being four one hundred
and eighty yards at the twenty eighteen World Long Drive Tour,
Eddie is the epitome of effortless power. He's going to
join me right now to chat all about his amazing career,
the importance of social activism, staying happy and healthy, and
more important, staying hydrated.

Speaker 8 (04:18):
Welcome to the show, Superstar.

Speaker 7 (04:20):
Thank you, Zen, thank you for having me. This is great.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
So excited to have you here.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
So let's start from the beginning before we dive right in.
Let's address your name, Fast Eddie Fernandez.

Speaker 8 (04:32):
What's the story.

Speaker 9 (04:32):
Kind of make a joke when people ask me about
my name, so fast Eddie, what I say is, look,
when I was back in about March of nineteen seventy,
my mom actually made an appointment to get to have hysterectomy.
So when I was kind of up that fallopium tube,
I was the first one to get to that egg.

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So that's kind of where I got my name nicknamed
Fast Eddie. In all seriousness, though it.

Speaker 8 (04:59):
Was all seriously I was going to go somewhere else
with it.

Speaker 9 (05:02):
Yeah, okay, right, But in all seriousness, I actually got
my nickname in Little League when I was twelve years old.
I threw in the mid seventies in All Stars, and
so that's where really everyone started calling me Fast Eddie
at that point, just because I could throw fast, swing fast,
run fast. So if you were somewhat fast, as something
in your name was Eddie, you kind of crowned fast Eddie.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
So that's where it came out.

Speaker 9 (05:26):
And then in long drive it it came about against
I love it.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Now, let's chat career.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
So your career in golf, without a doubt, has been remarkable,
especially in long drive competitions, with three World champion titles
under your belt. But I know long drive wasn't always
the plan. So how did your journey lead you to
the World Long Drive Championships And were there any key
turning points?

Speaker 9 (05:51):
Yeah, so there was the whole plan with the play
play on the PGA Tour. I went to PGA Tour
qualifying five times. My goal and aspirations as a young
teenager early twenties was to plan the PGA Tour, and
you know, it's not all that easy, and I put
the work in and just came up so close. But

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the turning point was probably in four two thousand and four,
I played the best golf of my career. I've won
probably a dozen many tour events just that year within
like a four month span getting ready for qualifying, and
I really thought that was the year that I was
going to make it happen.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
I was going to make it on tour finally, and you.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
Know, sail away have a great career, win major championships
all that.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
So didn't quite turn out that way.

Speaker 9 (06:41):
Just missed making the finals that year, and my wife
Eileen was pregnant with our first child, and it was
about November of two thousand and four, and I'm like,
you know what, I you know, it only happens once
a year. That's the hardest thing with golf. You have
to qualify. Nothing is given to you. You have to
earn it. So I think for me, the turning point was, look,
golf is my life. I love golf, but I need

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to do something different. We were planning on having multiple children.
Luckily we had three pretty much right in a row,
about a year and a half apart. My son Dylan
was born in five and Bella was born in eight.
So and at that point I got I got into
the business world, wasn't too crazy about it.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Was in the video surveillance line of.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
Work, and I just I knew, always, deep down inside,
I knew I would get back into golf in some capacity.
And fast forward to twenty thirteen, to probably the fall
maybe October, and I was watching the World Long Drive
Championships on TV and I was watching them like I
knew a little bit about it, but I'm like, well,

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maybe this is something I can do. I figured, let
me give it a shot, let me go see what
my speed is I have no idea and got tested
and I wasn't really that far off a couple of
the guys at the Final eight on TV in twenty thirteen.
So at forty three years old, it was like, okay,
So if I actually put some time in training.

Speaker 8 (08:04):
Was that that was the key turning point.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
That was a key turning point.

Speaker 9 (08:07):
And once I made the decision, I talked to Eileen,
my wife, and I said, I'm going to do this
and I'm going to become a world champion.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes, and now let's talk talk to me about maintaining
your competitive edge, right, because now you're not your no
spring chicken at that point and you decide, hey, listen,
I'm gonna go compete and become a world champ.

Speaker 8 (08:30):
So how did you maintain your competitive edge?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And how do you even foresee your goals continuing to
evolve over time?

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Because I know that you're very fit.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
You are, like I said, fifty three years young in
my introduction, you don't look your age, You're full of stamina.
You clearly have motivation and drive and tons of skill.

Speaker 8 (08:52):
So how do you do it?

Speaker 7 (08:55):
Been lucky?

Speaker 9 (08:56):
Been lucky, maybe not lucky, but blessed to have really
good health, really good levies. As my dad used to
say when he was alive with genes, very athletic family.
Always taken really good care of myself physically, mentally, emotionally,
and you know, nutritionally, which we were talking about before.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
And the nutrition part is massive. It really is a
huge part.

Speaker 9 (09:21):
Of what I do, what I've been doing the last
few years, and it's really helped me pop out of
bed in the morning. Clean living, clean living really does.
I mean, look, I have a glass of wine here
and there, but it's all about training, recovery, sleep, and
nutrition throughout the entire day.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Hydration is huge.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
Okay, hydration, So let's talk about hydration.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
So proper hydration is essential for athletes, especially like yourself,
especially for golfers standing in the sun for long periods
to avoid heat related illnesses and issues such as heat
stroke or heat exhaustion. And most mature adults lose about
two to three liters of water per day, but for
athletes this number actually rises with prolonged exercise and high temperatures.

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So it's so important to stay hydrated and replenish those
lost fluids. I know that without a doubt that's important
to you. So, one of my favorite hydration hacks is
coconut water. It's a natural hydrator with great source of
essential antioxidants and electrolytes. It supports heart health, manages cholesterol levels,
lowers blood sugar levels. I mean, the list of health

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benefits goes on and on, Eddie, how do you manage
your hydration both on the golf course and after since
I know recovery is key.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
Do you have specific strategies or routines?

Speaker 9 (10:40):
Yeah, so a couple of things sea salt with alkaline
water has to be alkaline water. And you know, luckily
the other day I met the awesome people from Once
Upon a Coconut and drinking right now.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
This is the blueberry ones so cocaine. I love coconut water,
absolutely love it.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
I literally had half a dozen of these the other
day the golf tournament when I was entertaining its chit
test to that, so it was I just it was like,
they are so good. There's no added sugar, which I've
been on that added sugar kind of way of health
the last few months and I've cut out ninety five
percent of my added sugar and this has no added sugar,
and it's it's sweet.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
It's so good.

Speaker 9 (11:18):
I could literally like pound like a dozen of these
a day. But it's definitely this will be into my
absolute health regimen going forward.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Now it's so important to choose.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I always say the right fluids to hydrate with, something
packed with essential minerals and electrolytes, but also being wary
of many popular sports drinks that are loaded with sugars,
which can be detrimental right to one's performance due to
spiking and dropping blood sugar levels, which is again why
I would recommend sticking to water and specifically once upon

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a coca of coconut water containing no added sugars or
artificial ingredients. Reinforcing what you just said, you went on
a no sugar added diet. Now we've covered hydration, let's
chat about other aspects of improving your performance. So, when
you're not competing your training, how do you tailor your
your training to improve both your long drives and overall

(12:15):
golf game, And what are some biohacking methods you use
to optimize your performance.

Speaker 9 (12:21):
I basically I've been so blessed I've met the right
trainers over the years. My trainer now, Jeff Flaggy's also
a World Long Drive Champion. I train a little bit differently.
I don't do your typical squats, I don't do your
typical lunges things like that.

Speaker 10 (12:39):
I use.

Speaker 9 (12:39):
I use some really cool equipment called pure Motion, and
my all my joints are in alignments. I'm never ever
worried about getting hurt or injured when I'm working out.
I also use Rotex Motion, which doctor Jolikas, twenty two
year Navy seal, amazing guy.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
We partner.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
He's got this. It's called rotex Motion. They're floor models
or discs where it helps internal external rotation of your hips,
internal external rotation of your shoulders, your ribcage or your obliques,
all everything. The engine is the middle and it allows
me to warm up within six minutes and literally and

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if anyone has watched me hit balls or warm up,
I'm ready to go, literally at full speed within five
to eight swings of the driver. After I just do
that for five or six minutes, it's absolutely unbelievable. So
but the training part is I'm not lifting heavy, but
I'm moving the weight and I'm moving my body as

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efficiently and as perfectly as possible.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
So the quality of the motion is number one, it's
not about the weight.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
I love that you said that it's not about the weight.
Are you listening.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's not about the weight. Big boys out there now.
Your dedication for the sport, without a doubt, is very clear.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
But I know you also have a passion for giving back.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You've competed in numerous charity golf events that's where I
met you, and annually you raise millions of dollars for
their respective foundations, and in your Golf Digest feature I
even read that you participate in about eighty charity events
a year.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
My hat goes off to you.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I can't imagine it must feel incredibly rewarding to do
what you do and to do it at your best
for such great causes.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
So why is giving back so important to you?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
And do you have any charities or events that you're
particularly passionate about.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
Yes, I down you about thirty to forty now because
I've got other things going on, some coaching, some seminars.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
I speak, so I probably will add a few more.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
I've had a lot of people reach out, especially after
winning my third belt, and I do some corporate events
as well, But on the charity side, I'm an ambassador
for Kawasaki Kids.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
They are out of.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Colorado, Northern Colorado. The Logan family amazing, amazing people. Cooper
was diagnosed at I believe four years old, and it's
an aneurysm in your heart, and if they if you
catch it before eleven days, you can live a perfectly
healthy life and you'd be fine.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
But they caught his at about day.

Speaker 9 (15:13):
Thirteen if I remember correctly, so he's has an aneurysm
in his heart. He literally takes fifteen to twenty pills
a day. He just had a kidney transplant back in
April and he's doing great. He's fourteen now, and I've
been doing the event for nine years and it just
for whatever reason. The family just an amazing family and

(15:35):
they're they're all about giving back and they've saved a
lot of lives that they're the awareness that they raise,
they're just incredible people and it's such a it's such
a pleasure and it's so amazing to be just a
part of it, just a little small part of it.
And I do their event every year and we raise
I usually raise between ten and fourteen or fifteen thousand
dollars on the tea box during their event.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
And you raised that just the other day at the
Yeah Dominari, big shut out.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
Yeah, Stilwell and Dominari. But you did that at the
Trump Westchester Golf charity event.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Yep, the Howg Family Foundation. Awesome people, amazing, amazing family.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Now, lastly, do you have any exciting upcoming competitions or
events or ventures anything we should be on the lookout for.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (16:20):
So, got my product coming out after the first of
the year called HITS Golf. HITS its high intensity Impact
training system. It's a speed driver that I developed back
in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and I gained my last
twenty miles an hour or ten miles an hour with
that type of setup, little prototype that I built kind

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of like a garage made training clubs, So it was amazing.
I was getting hurt doing some other things, swinging at air.
But once I actually put this together and kind of
tested it and the prototype and everything else, it was
that was it.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
And I'm like, ooh, someday I want.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
To be able to take this to market. And luckily
I have a partner, incredible guy. He's doctor Michael Murphy
down in Jupiter, Florida. He he loved it. He believed
in it, and so we're we're excited. I get my
last prototype here in a couple of weeks and U
ready to go once once it comes out, I think

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this is it and then that's this is it.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Baby.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Big shout out to doctor Michael Murphy.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
Let's do this well.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I can't thank you enough for coming on and being
so transparent and so full of light and love and inspiration.
You are an incredible interviewee. Thank you so much for
coming here today.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Thank you Zen. Appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
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I'm your host, Zenzam's welcoming back to America's favorite pharmacist segment. Today,
we have the amazing Phil Cali, better known as Phil's.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
My Pharmacist all over social media.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
He's a trusted voice in health education and he's here
today to break down some important information about products making
waves drinks that claim to neutralize alcohol in the bloodstream.
We're going to be discussing whether these products are as
good as they sound.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Let's dive right in.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Welcoming now to the show is my expert at hand
for the expert on the microphone.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Series, Phil CALLI welcome, superstar.

Speaker 11 (19:53):
Thank you, Zen. I'm always this is always so much fun.
I can't wait. Let's just dig into this stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
So, let's start by brain breaking down the claims made
by Safety Shot. According to their website, it's the first
patented beverage that claims to reduce alcohol's effect on the
blood by converting it into a non toxic substance. Now,
from a pharmaceutical standpoint, how plausible is this process and
what kind of science would you need to back this up?

Speaker 11 (20:20):
Plausibility is there? What thing you have to think in
is what do they do when somebody comes into an
ER so they come in with acute toxicity of any alcohol,
the first thing they always do is they give you
a very loaded IV with a bunch of B vitamins.
There's a substance out there that is a phosphilated B five.
It's not really readily used here in the United States

(20:43):
or the UK, but across the world they use it
and it has shown some pretty good numbers. Also, keeping
those vitamins high with glucose have been shown to be
able to help reduce it some. It's mostly because we've
added so much fluid to the blood itself. So if
you have one hundred parts inside of a hundhundred parts
and you just double it so now you have one
hundred parts inside of two hundred, then the blood alcohol

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level drops, which allows for you to clear up faster.
So plausibility is definitely there, but the safety shots done
some pretty interesting things when it comes to stimulants inside
of it, which is one of those things that has
been debunked over the years that caffeine will make you
feel like you're not so intoxicated, but still you have

(21:24):
much of the intoxication still there.

Speaker 12 (21:27):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Now, I want to always highlight the importance of clinical
trials and FDA approval for any kind of product, So
we definitely need to emphasize the need for more evidence
before endorsing any kind of claim.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
And I know that, Phil, you and I are on
the exact same page with that.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Now, it's a pretty bold claim neutralizing fifty percent of alcohol,
So I'd love to hear how it stacks up scientifically
against similar products that have been studied or marketed. That's
number one, But so I want you to actually, yeah,
go ahead and answer that one. Do you know of
any other side typically similar products that have been studied

(22:03):
or marketed?

Speaker 11 (22:03):
So their studies really interesting, so you have to dig
for it, which was a little bit interesting for me,
but I dug into it. They've had two paid groups
that went through and did studies for them. The first
one was with a small group of people. They had
them drink as much as they wanted, which wasn't regulated,
so some people drink a whole lot and some people
drink what they wanted to and they did it over
an hour, and then afterwards they gave them the safety

(22:26):
shot and those people saw a fairly substantial drop with
their blood alcohol level when they used a breathalyzer. And
so the second study, which was released later, had a
little larger group that was study. It was a little
better controlled. Both of those studies. I've had a hard
time getting a hold of the actual study, but I
saw the reviews and I saw the safety the people

(22:48):
that were in charge what they said about them. They're
really interesting, but the numbers need to be able to
be scrutinized a little bit better for us to say anything.
And that was interesting me that I couldn't find it.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, we've all seen products that claim to cure hangovers
or detox the body from alcohol. Now this particular product,
you're right, it claims to neutralize fifty percent of alcohol
within thirty minutes. I'm not sure how that compares to
other existing products on the market, But these kinds of claims,
do you think that there's something that we should be
taking at face value?

Speaker 11 (23:21):
Well, there's a possibility. That's the reason why when you
first when I first started looking at I thought, well,
so I'm not a big drinker. It's something that I
stay away from. I got a family full of alcoholics.
It's one of those things that I'm just going to
stay away from, and so I've always been more than
skeptical about any of those things ever since the Drew
Carey Show. They wanted to put caffeine in their beer
to make it more fun so they can drink more.

(23:43):
But in this they do use the vitamin B six
that's in a phosphilated form, and there are there is
some evidence there that does help. And their combination of
both ncetyl cysteine as well as ancetyl tyrazine is something
that's intriguing because both of those things could help your
liver go through and enhance the way that we get

(24:04):
rid of alcohol, turning it into an aldehyde and so
we can get rid of it and then they throw
in Though I said there is a lot of stimulant
in this, I mean I think that if I took this,
I probably wouldn't sleep for like two weeks. Two hundred
milligrams of caffeine in it, as well as three other
items that all stimulate the adentisying receptor, which is the
reason why you feel tipsy after you start drinking.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Well, you know, it's interesting because as you're walking me
through this, it sounds like like the risks could outweigh
the benefits if people misuse the product as a safety
net for heavy drinking.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Right And according to.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
The Apple newsed article, this product Right Safety Shot is
being touted as a breakthrough and drink safety. However, to
your point, there are some experts in the article that
mentioned potential concerns about people relying on products like this
instead of moderating their drinking, which come back full circle
to your comment. So what are your thoughts on the

(25:03):
behavioral aspect of this? I mean, could a product like
this encourage over consumption?

Speaker 11 (25:09):
I think that anytime you give somebody a product that
makes them feel like it's safe to abuse a substance,
it's dangerous when when we had huge amounts of drinking.
I love the way that you said heavy drinking. So
this product, if you were drinking with your friends and
you have one too many drinks or too too many,
would probably do an excellent job. If you have somebody

(25:29):
who drinks very heavily wants to drink this and then
go back to drinking again, it probably will not be
able to do anything except for make them very belligerent
and more agitated. It won't change their behaviors. And it's
very concerning because what you've got is you've got a
person who now has drink enough that they are inhibited

(25:50):
less inhibited to do anything, and now you've made them
very excited and inhibited, which could be a deadly mix
if they're heavy drinkers. But somebody with light drinking who
maybe just went one or two too far and needs
to get you know, that person probably will very much
benefit from something like this.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's a great point.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
And we all know there's no magic bullet for long
term alcohol damage, and this product is a short term,
fixed rather than a real solution. So when we look
at the potential long term effects, are there any red
flags consumers should be aware of? For instance, products like
these claim it reduces hangovers, but does it address the
long term harm alcohol does to the liver or other organs.

Speaker 11 (26:30):
No, not really. I mean it would depend again on
the amount that you drink. So short term, anytime you
hydrate during your drink. Everybody knows if you hydrate while
you're drinking, you're going to have less hangovers, and a
lot of it has to do with that. This does
a really great job of that. And then they do
add in a really good mix of amino acids. So
there are some really good things about it, but long

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term drinking looks completely different. So there's a teeter totter
inside of our brain that manages our GABBA, which is
our inhibitory neurochemistry. That's the one that makes us slow
and relaxed, and glutamin and glutamate with GABA, they kind
of teeter totter back and forth. In this case, what
they're trying to do is just add more players to

(27:13):
the teeter totter. It doesn't really fix the underlying problem
of heavy drinking, which would be the increase of GABA
receptors and the toxicity that comes to the liver as
well as really, in this case, with as much of
the says the stimulant, you're gonna have to start watching
your kidneys a little bit, especially those who just drink
and don't drink any water. This could become more dangerous

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because of the amount of stimulant they have inside of us.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So let's go to that. That's exactly what I want
to talk about.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
So let's talk about the ingredients, because we know that
all natural doesn't always mean safe, especially in combination with
other medications.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Or maybe conditions people might have.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
So the website mentions that safety Shot contains natural compounds
that help accelerate alcohol breakdown. As a pharmacist, how do
you evaluate the f of these ingredients? And more importantly,
my concern is should people be aware of any potential
interactions or side effects that these stimulants may have on

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their heart?

Speaker 11 (28:11):
For instance, so long term heavy drinkers usually have quite
a bit of cardiac issues, like it really wreaks havoc
on their cardiac issues. And anytime, I wouldn't give this
safety Shop to anybody that has high blood pressure, a
chance of high pleasure, a blood pressure, a history of strokes,
anything like that, because there is enough stimulant in it
that it will it will wreak havoc on that. It

(28:34):
is fairly intense. Like I said, I don't know if
I would take it. It's got so it's got cenophron
in it, which i is phenyl effort, And so they
claim on it that it helps reduce alcohol absorption in
the stomach, And the way that they're doing it is
it has enough of the stimulants that it's shrinking the
blood vessel size inside the stomach. Well, anytime you shrink
blood vessel size. It's not like it stays in the stomach.

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So now we've shrunk blood vessels elsewhere. So if somebody
had an underlying heart condition with this much stimulant and
they're also drinking heavily, that's it. That could be a
recipe for disaster as it goes for getting rid of
the alcohol in the bloodstream. Any er doctor, anybody that
sees this acute alcohol poisoning would tell you right away

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that that's a really hard trick to do. In order
to get rid of it, they often will use hemodialysis
to pull it out. So if there was a simpler way,
you know that one of the big farmer companies would
have already patent it and charged the ers ten thousand
dollars free treatment if there was really a way to
do that, and where there's not one there, I do
think that there is some value in the product, but
the idea that it's a long term fix is probably know.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I love that, And we've seen with supplements and detox
products how important regulation is and consumers can't stress.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I can't stress this enough. You need to educate yourselves
and protect yourselves from potentially unsafe for unproven claims and
do your research.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
There's a growing movement pil toward alcohol harm reduction products.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I've noticed it. And given the rise of such innovations.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like safety Shot and all the likes of safety Shot,
do you think that the FDA is going to step
in to regulate this sector more strictly and what should
consumers look for in terms of safety certifications.

Speaker 11 (30:20):
At this point, I don't know if they will jump
in until there's been enough harm done that they have
to step in, because most of the substances they put
in there are underneath the nutraceutical companies, so it doesn't
have to be proven until you make claims which are
no longer violent. However, there was a statement put out
by the FDA in twenty twenty two which did warn

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supplement makers about making claims about alcohol reduction without adequate information.
I think that generally speaking, anybody who believes that there
is a way that you can drink heavily, take something
and go back sober needs to make sure that they
know that that supplement whatever they're saying, that that is
an impossibility as far as science at this point, there's

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no pharmaceutical way for you to do that, So watch
the claims that they're making. If you read it, and
it looks like they're saying, well, i'll keep you hydrated,
we'll give you a little bit of stimulant will help
offset some of that. That's fine. But when they say
we will make it so it goes away, well, that's
a claim nobody can make.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, definitely, in products like this, it's my concern that
they target younger consumers or those engaged in social drinking.
I think there's a risk of creating a false sense
of security among this younger demographics.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I think we definitely have to strick a balance.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Between using products like this responsibly but also promoting healthier behaviors.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
To your point. Now, as we wrap up.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
So for those tuning in who are curious about trying
safety shan, Now, we're not endorsing it.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
We don't have an affiliation to the company. But they
listened and they.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Said, Okay, now I'm going to go research products like this.
What should what would be your best advice, How should
they approach into creating a product like this into their routine,
and what steps should they take to ensure it's actually.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
Right for them. It's funny because I keep thinking about
a group of frat boys who are trying to drink
heavier and then take all this and then getting really
really amped up and getting worse and worse. So you
know that idea of a younger drinker demographic who wants
to go out and binge drink and this is going
to be a way for them to drink more, that
is a terrible, terrible idea. This would be specifically for

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a situation in which you were going out with friends
and you want to have a few drinks. You took
one too many and you want to take one to
see what happens. That's a wonderful way to go. But
if you're planning on going out to binge drink, this
in the end will make everything substantially worse, not better.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
You heard it directly from the expert himself. Phil.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Thank you so much for coming on, being so transparent,
breaking it down for us and really helping us make
the proper decision.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
That's what it's all about. We love having you on.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
You are amazing, well, thank you, and Emily amazing because
of the host. She makes everybody look so good.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm flattered. Thank you so much, and thank you to
our listeners.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Remember that While there are exciting new products out there,
it's important to approach them with a critical eye and
consult with professionals of course, like Phil and you can
find him on the gram at Fills Mypharmacist for more
health tips and advice. And of course if you're curious
about safety Shot or any similar products, you can always
make sure to do your research and speak to your

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You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host. Zensams up next in the Going Deep segment.
It brought to you by Co two Lift. In our
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where it all started at Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center.
Doctor Tarbos is a keynote speaker and kol on topics
ranging from dermoscopy, to cosmetic dermatology, to infectious diseases, to
patient satisfaction and to so much more. She's also the
co host and co creator of the Dermosphere podcast centered
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She's going to join me today to chat all about
the importance of staying up to date with the latest
skincare technologies and how CO two Lift is.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Changing the game.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Welcoming now to the show is the incredible doctor Michelle Tarbos.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Welcome, superstar.

Speaker 12 (35:52):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I really appreciate it, so excited to chat with you.
So you have a very rich background in dermatology and dermatopathology.
What initially drew you to these fields and how has
your journey shaped your career.

Speaker 12 (36:07):
You know, I became interested in dermatology when I was
a teenager teaching swimming lessons in beautiful, sunny Lumbic, Texas,
which is usually beautiful and sunny, but every once in
a while it rains, and when it would do that,
we needed to teach about safety. We talked about water
safety and sun safety, and I learned about the importance
of protecting and caring for your skin. That interest grew
as I studied more and more about medicine, and I

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found my way to dermatology as my specialty of choice
as at their dramatical student, and I have really enjoyed
learning and growing in this field. I think our skin
is a fascinating organ It's like a living fabric that
repairs itself and protects the wearer, and we need to
take care of it in turn.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Well, now that.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
You put it like that, the skin is the biggest organ, right,
so we definitely have to start taking care of our
skin and paying more attention. But as a board certified
dermatologist specializing in both medical and cosmetic dermatology, pH surgery,
and dermatopathology, how do you ensure you stay up to
date with all the latest trends and technologies in the field,

(37:06):
and how do you evaluate the credibility and effectiveness of
these new texts Because it could get really overwhelming.

Speaker 12 (37:13):
You know, one of the best things that happened in
my whole career was having one of the former residents
that I trained reach out to me with the idea
of the Dermosphere podcast. And he had this great idea
that we needed to have a podcast to keep dermatologists
up to date with the literature.

Speaker 11 (37:28):
So I read.

Speaker 12 (37:29):
Delve into a lot of our practice relevant literature every
single week to make sure that I'm up to date
and current. I also attend and speak at a lot
of meetings and I learn a lot from my colleagues.
I think it's important to vet the information we're presented
with with veracity because we want to present things authentically
to our patients, and so I feel a huge sense
of duty to make sure that I'm offering the most

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appropriate and the most proven treatments to my patients.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I love the narrative and I love the ethos of
everything related to your eCos Let's shift a little bit,
because clinically researched and clinically verified in your field are
of the utmost importance. So let's chat about this amazing product.
So two lift carboxy therapy has in fact been around

(38:14):
since the nineteen thirties, but the method of delivery has
since changed and is no longer injected, but to my understanding,
delivered non invasively in a mask format. When did you
first hear of CO two lift products? And in your
own words, can you describe how carboxy therapy functions on
a cellular level.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 12 (38:31):
I actually first heard of the CO two lift product
when I got a very cute selfie from one of
my fellows that had gone to a meeting. We had
a presentation that we were doing and it got accepted,
and I wasn't able to go for family reasons, but
she was there presenting and she sent me this great
photo of herself wearing this mask and it's a very
like intriguing photograph because it sort of looks silky, it

(38:52):
looks very soft, it looks like you want to just
reach out and touch it, and it's thick. It looks interesting.
So she sent me that and she was like, you
have to learn about this product. So the next time
that I had the opportunity, I was at the South
Beach Dermatology Meeting speaking at the Terran Air Resort in California,
which is a beautiful meeting, and Lano was there presenting
with her colleagues about the Cotwo lift Peel and I

(39:12):
just got to sit down and learn with them and
understand how the science worked. And it was so fascinating
how they'd adapted this technology that was originally developed almost
one hundred years ago to help improve skin health. The
way that it works is really fascinating. So our skin
has to keep, like all of our tissues do a
balance between oxygen and carbon dioxide. When you are dealing
with carboxy therapy, carbon dioxide is delivered to the deeper

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levels of the skin, and when it reaches those levels,
you develop something called hypercapnia, so an elevated level of
CO two, and you can actually develop a carbonic acid
that is going to change the pH of that tissue.
When the pH changes, the hemoglobin, the protein that carries
oxygen in our blood, changes a little bit the way
it holds the oxygen. It holds it a little less tightly,

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and that means oxygen is being delivered directly to our
tissues and that's a bit very activating for our cells.
It helps them to develop a growth mindset, if you will.
So they're going to now elaborate growth hormones and chemicals,
things like epidermal growth factor, vascular and ethelial growth factor,
and fibroblast growth factor. That's going to tell our skin
it needs to heal itself. It turns on the healing

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mechanism of the skin, and that's the way carboxy therapy
can help improve something called neocologenesis or the synthesis of neucolagen,
as well as tissue elasticity and oxygenation. So I've seen
this definitely improve the health of tissues that the peel
is applied to. The peel does this instead of injecting
it under the skin with a small needle the way
traditional carboxy therapy is done by generating carboxy therapy at

(40:40):
the skin's surface and then including it or covering it
with something that's kind of not going to be able
to let the gas through. That pushes that carbonic carboxy
therapy into the skin. That CO two comes into the
deeper levels of the skin and it creates those cellular changes,
which is really kind of fascinating. It's using the skin's
natural healing mechanisms to improve its health.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
You know your stuff girl.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Now, in addition to CO two lift being used as
a monotherapy it's also proven to heavily aid in the
healing process post procedure, and it's important to note that
the co two lift pro is the strongest version, which
can only be provided to patients by medical professionals like yourself.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Now, I'm interested to know how.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Do you use COO two lift in conjunction with other procedures,
whether it's micro needling, derm abrasion, COO two lasers, or
chemical pills. I mean, the list goes on and on
with what you can use this product to my understanding,
So how have you first hand seen it improve a
procedure's result and a patient's comfort level?

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well?

Speaker 12 (41:41):
Being a scientist, I'm naturally curious. So as soon as
I got home with the new curve boxy pills that
I'd purchased for my practice, I tried it out. I
tried it out on one of my patients that I
have a good relationship with, and we do teaching with
this patient, so she has a very calm personality and
when I'm training my residence on how to do procedures,
she's one of our model patients. So we did a

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micro needling treatment on this patient and we applied the
carboxy therapy to just one side of the face, just
to see what the difference would be. The patient reported
immediate decrease in discomfort and the burning sensation that can
happen after micronedling. When we removed the peel, we also
saw that the redness of the skin was significantly decreased
on the side that the peel had been applied to.
And then the patient reported to us that she felt

(42:24):
like she healed much more quickly and even had better
results on the side that we applied the peel to. So,
of course, the next time we had her back for
a training, we did it to the whole face and
she had a beautiful result going forward, and that really
sold me on the utility of this treatment and its
ability to really improve post procedure outcomes. I use it
for CO two laser therapy, microneedling, chemical peels, and microdembration.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
That's fascinating. It's combo therapy. It's a great, great product.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Right now, recently you've been seeing a shift in patients'
preferences towards non invasive procedures.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
What do you believe is.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Driving the increasing demand for non invasive procedures and products.

Speaker 12 (43:03):
I think that One of the reasons so many people
are looking for non invasive treatments now is that people
are just so busy. It's really difficult to go hide
under the covers for a couple of weeks while you
recover from something deeply invasive with our busy, bustling lives.
I think another reason that minimally invasive procedures are gaining
popularity is that many of them do rely on the
healing mechanisms of the skin, and one of the great

(43:25):
things about that is that those treatments deliver really natural results.
Our skin is going to heal itself in a way
that is natural for our own tissue, our own anatomy,
and the contours of our face that occur naturally. When
we are dealing with more invasive therapies, there is a
line you can cross into having too much work done,
where you start to look a little bit less like

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yourself and more like a cartoon version of the.

Speaker 11 (43:49):
Person that you used to be.

Speaker 12 (43:50):
And we don't want to put patients in that space
that's called the uncanny valley, where they look kind of
like themselves but enough unusualness that it makes people feel
a little bit uncomfortable with image they're presented with. So
I think that these natural and non invasive therapies can
deliver really natural looking results that are effective. I always
tell my patients that nature takes time and so we

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have to give it time to work. But I do
see even after a single or second peel session, significant
improvement and it's a product I really believe in and
use on myself as well.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Now let's talk about skin conditions. So what skin conditions
have you noticed becoming more prevalent in the recent years
and how have THEEOTWO lift helped.

Speaker 12 (44:30):
And I think if you ask any practicing dermatologists this,
the first thing they're going to tell you is frontal
fibrosiing alopecia. This is a kind of chronic scarring hair
loss that involves the frontal hairline, and we think that
there are connections with certain topical products, hormone disruptors, potentially
certain silicon containing products, and it can cause a permanent

(44:50):
scarring hair loss that removes the frontal hairline and causes
it to recede. The very interesting thing to me about
the cotwo lift peel is I've had a couple of
patients I've with an application on the frontal hairline and
it has brought down the inflammation the air theme of
the redness around the hair follicles and improved the scale
and I think that it's helping to deal with some
of the inflammatory infiltrate. So I'm actually working on doing

(45:14):
a little study on that. Like in sclerosis is a
condition where the female genital area becomes inflamed in a
somewhat similar fashion and the tissues can become destroyed or atrophied.
The CO two lift Peel actually has a product specifically
made for that area, and there have been improvements in
tissue quality and health through the administration of carboxy therapy

(45:34):
using the product made specifically for that area by the
CO two lift Peel, And those two conditions can be
quite debilitating and can significantly affect quality of life. You
also see more inflammatory acne and that can be significantly
improved with the CO two lift Peel as well, because
oxygen helps to deal with inflammation and it helps to
decrease the bacterial load that's causing the bacteria to elaborate

(45:57):
acne lesions.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
This product is truly a miracle worker. What doesn't it do?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Now you're an award winning professor and educator. Why do
you believe education is crucial in the field of dermatology
for both students and practicing health professionals, especially in an
era of such rapid advancements.

Speaker 12 (46:17):
I mean, you hit the nail right on the head.
This is a very strange time in science, and in
dermatology specifically. We used to be sort of a niche specialty.
It was a small part of the house of medicine,
and if you asked the average lead person what a
dermatologist did, they might not really know how to respond
to that question. But because of social media, because of
interest in skincare, because people have started to really want

(46:40):
to take great care of their skin, there is a
lot of information out there about how to take care
of your skin, and unfortunately, not all.

Speaker 11 (46:46):
Of it is accurate.

Speaker 12 (46:48):
There are also a lot of people in the skincare
space that are just there to make as much money
as they can and then get out, And so there
are products being developed overnight that may or may not work,
and some of which may or may not be safe
for patients to use. So education is vital for providers
to understand the treatments that they're giving to their patients
or recommending to their patients so that we can ensure

(47:09):
the most important things safety, efficacy, and appropriate use.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Thank you so much for joining us. You're an eloquent speaker.
It was so much fun chatting with you. Thank you
for being transparent and honest and teaching me something well.

Speaker 12 (47:23):
Thank you so much for having me and for helping
people understand this great treatment. I think it's really important
for people to have access to treatments that really work.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
That was the Going Deep segment brought to you by
COEO two lyft, and that was the amazing trailblazer. Doctor
Michelle Tarba's Board certified dermatologists, professor and co host of
the Dermosphere podcast. Definitely check out the podcast at dermosphere
podcast dot com. And I know you're all on the
grand so check her out at No Drama, Dorm Mama
and at Germisphere Podcast.

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Speaker 8 (50:42):
What is the target area of this device?

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Is it going to address my skin, my muscle, my fat,
or all of them? Right, So you can really engage
in a proper conversation during this consultation to know what
you need for yourself. Once that is all determined, then
I hope that when you get this device done to
sculpt your body, it gives you the results that makes

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you happy.

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However, I always tell.

Speaker 13 (51:07):
My patient this, okay, and you have to understand there's
nothing that's going to substitute good nutrition and a healthy lifestyle,
which is the foundation of everything that you're doing. Right,
So before starting, make sure that you're eating properly, You're
beare mindful of your nutritional consumption, and you are also

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moving your body.

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You've got to exercise.

Speaker 13 (51:30):
You're gonna have some routine in place before seeking treatment
with these devices because you will give results short term.
The long term results is what you do your nutrition,
your exercise. All right, this has been the Express Polished
Beauty Podcast segment right here within a moment of sen,

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My website ww dot Doctordcim dot com or ww dot
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