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(01:15):
Polish Beauty segment, it's all about transformation and resilience. At
seventy years old, Joan McDonald faced serious health challenges and
decided to rewrite her story.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
She said over.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Seventy pounds, gained physical and mental strength, and became a
global fitness icon with over one point eight million followers
on Instagram. She's seventy nine years old. Now you can
follow her at Trained with Joan. She has an incredible story.
She's been featured in Shape, Forbes Women's Health, and she
continues to inspire people of all ages to embrace healthier lifestyles.
We're going to be joined by doctor Dais Aim, Triple

(01:47):
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He's a seasoned entrepreneur.

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John built a career spanning real estate, telecommunications, and hospitality,
employing over seven hundred people and generating revenues nearly one
billion dollars. He's a dedicated dad, philanthropist and author of
the book Gratitude, a book.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Reminding us of the power of gratitude and humility.

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He's going to join us to talk all about this
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the Voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's up next in the Hydration
with Heart segment brought to you by once Ponic Coconut,
We're featuring co founder of once Spontic Coconut himself and
CEO of Quality One Wireless, John Chirando. He's a seasoned
entrepreneur who ignited his business journey at the age of

(04:22):
eleven with a newspaper route in New York. Since then,
he's propelled himself into diverse industries with unwavering determination. John's
dynamic portfolio encompasses ventures spanning real estate, telecommunications, hospitality, and
just so much more, collectively employing over seven hundred people
and boasting revenues nearly one billion dollars in twenty twenty four.

(04:44):
Now beyond business, John is a devoted dad, avid sports enthusiast,
dedicated philanthropist, and a book author. As we dive into
today's conversation about his new book, Gratitude, it's worth reflecting
on the importance of teaching gratitude and humility to our
children in a world where material desires often overshadow deeper values.

(05:05):
John's book reminds us of the timeless lessons that truly
define greatness.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Welcoming now to the show is the amazing John Chiranda.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Welcome superstar, Thanks for having me again. It's great to
be with you.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
So excited to chat with you. So this book is fascinating.
Not only did I read it, but my daughter read it.
And I say fascinating because it evoked so much, so
much emotion in me. It brought me to tears in
a gracious way reading it to her. So from the
book Gratitude, you were quoted saying gratitude turns what we

(05:38):
have into enough, which, let me repeat that gratitude turns
what we have into enough. I've been using this quote
ever since I read your book. What inspired you to
write about Matthew's emotional journey in this book? I mean,
what was there a personal experience that really influenced this story.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
It's an interesting journey. When you say author of book,
it's funny to hear that, because I never would have
envisioned writing a book let alone, a children's book that
was had biblical quotes. But we all have children, and
our children have different varying attitudes and mentalities as they grow.
And Maddie, right after Christmas, had focused on something he

(06:19):
did not get. While the let's just say ten things
that he wanted, he got nine of the ten, but
his focus that day was just on that one thing
he didn't get. And coming from a family where I
was very challenging financially growing up from my oldest son
was born on food stamps, I appreciate and try to
focus on what I have first what I don't have,

(06:40):
And I was having a conversation with an adult, and
he also focused on all that he did not have.
It was not about anything that he had. There was
no blessing in his in his in his language and
his body language and his feeling. It was just downtrodden.
This is what I don't have. And I was like, wow,
this is this is this generation is going to be entitled.

(07:03):
I feel like they did deserve everything, you know, for free,
and we saw that, you know, politics aside. You know,
politicians had a way of expressing, hey, vote for me
and we'll give you free this, so we'll forgive that.
So I just triggered something in me to say, I've
got to try to do something at least for my
kids to not have a sense of entitlement and to
be focused on what you do have and focus on

(07:26):
being better every single day.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
So Matthew's story deals with complex emotions like jealousy and envy.
So how do you approach writing these feelings from a
ten year old perspective?

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Well, I think they're feelings we all have, you know,
I think we all have them at different times of
our lives. So it was pretty easy for me. I
put myself in his shoes when I looked around and
sort to other children who had things that I did
not have, and I felt that I was lacking, or
I feel that I'm lacking, or times when I have
self doubt. You know, we all go through those periods
of time that matter you're ten or fifty, and it

(07:59):
would just I wanted to resonate with the generation of
younger kids so that maybe we can make a change
or put a pause on what was happening in the
world of in the senses of entitlement and focusing on
the negative and let's not accentuating the positive.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Again, that's very important, accentuating the positive. And so now
let's focus on gratitude and well being. Studies show that
that children who practice gratitude are about fifteen percent more
likely to feel happy and closer to twenty percent more
satisfied with their own lives. Now, the book emphasizes lessons
on gratitude and humility. It's at the core of it all.

(08:34):
Why do you think these values are particularly important for
children today?

Speaker 5 (08:38):
I'll tell you from my own experience. I went about
seven hundred and thirty days consecutive of writing some sense
of gratitude first thing in the morning. So I would
get up and I would journal something that I was
grateful for. And for most days that's an easy exercise, right,
But it was the days where I was having a
tough day what I started to focus on was being
grateful for those days, being grateful for the negative. Because

(09:02):
what I figured out is this too shall pass. Applies
to the positive and the negative. It all will pass.
So to me, gratitude was the core fundamental behavior that
I wanted to have in life before anything else. I'm
grateful for what I have, and if I'm alive and
I'm in the fight, I'll have a chance of winning

(09:23):
that fight, whatever that fight might be.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
That's a great attitude, which brings me to generational attitudes.
There was a study in twenty twenty two, a survey
by the Greater Good Science Center and John only twenty
percent of parents regularly discussed gratitude with their children, yet
eighty eight percent believe it's essential for their well being. Right,
So there's such a disconnect. And then we talk about

(09:46):
the digital age and the influence.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Right, there was a.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Report that highlighted that children aged eight to twelve spent
an average of four hours daily on screens, often leading
to increased feelings of envy and decreased levels gratitude.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
So, again, your book comes very nicely into play.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
You wrote something that was extremely timely in the world
that we live in. Now, I'm going to focus on
Matthew's dialogue with God. It's central to the story. How
did you craft these conversations to be say, meaningful yet accessible.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
For young readers.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
You know, in my conversation with Matthew about being grateful,
that was anything but godlike, Right, I was very There
was much metaphor in the conversation, but more realistic of
this is what I went through as a kid, This
is what I didn't have, this is what you have.
And one of the analogies I made is that some

(10:40):
child right now is hungering for food. Well, you have
refrigerators and closets full of it. Some child is hungering
for warmth, where you have a button on a wall
that can fix that in a second. And I just
wanted to break it down to the simplistic thing is
one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty thousand
people will not wake up today, right, they had a

(11:01):
list of things to do, They have a list of
things that they wanted to get to. If we can
wake up in the morning and be grateful and start
out day with gratefulness, Hey, I woke up, I'm here.
I've got a shot today to be better, to do better,
to serve others. And we're all going to have problems.
We're going to be coming out of a problem or
going into a problem. I've got a shot at solving

(11:21):
that problem. And the first step of that as I
woke up this morning, and let me be grateful for that.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
And trying to teach kids gratitude in the age of
instant everything is like trying to explain dial.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Up internet to a teenager room practically impossible.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Right, there was a time, It was a time.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
So in today's fast paced world, many struggle to find
time for self improvement. What practical advice does your book
offer for those aiming for greatness amidst a busy schedule.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
I think that as individuals. And I wrote this as
a children's book, and it came to me later on
that really, is it really a children's book or is
it going to really help educate a parent while he's
reading it or she's reading it with the child. It's both.
To be grateful is awesome, but what are you gonna
do with it? Like? What is the action item of
that gratitude? Okay, great, I wrote a little thing today,

(12:16):
I'm grateful. I woke up, hit Pip perree. What is
the action item? What am I going to do to
serve someone else, to be a better person in my community? Well,
just to be a better person than I was yesterday?
And if I can do any of those three or
all of those three, and at night I can reflect
on my day. And I created a checklist in the
book of things that I could look back on my

(12:37):
day or plan for the future day. And I envisioned
this as being something you read with the child that
night they go to bed and they have the positives.
What I was able to accomplish today and they go
to bed with the subconscious waking up tomorrow morning of
the things I said I would do tomorrow, I said
I was going to do better than I did today.
We may have a setback, but it doesn't stop us
from being better the next day. So if we can

(12:57):
be grateful and strive to be great and thanking God
for the gift of life, we start the day and
we become a better environment, a better community, a better people.
And that starts at the individual level.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, well we are at the end. Thank you so
much for joining me and our audience tonight. John, you
are so inspirational, so incredible. I can't wait for them
to go buy the book. Guys, you definitely have to
check this book out.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Thank you, John, Thank you guys, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
That was our Hydration with Heart segment, brought to you
by Once Upon a Coconut and that was co founder
of Once Upon a Coconut and CEO of Quality One.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Wireless, John Chirando.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Guys, you can head directly to gratitude dot org, Gratitude
dr E A t I t U d E not
gratitude gratitude dot org, or you could go on Amazon
this week. The book drops on January twenty eighth, and
you could head directly on the ground to check out
John at John dot Tirando and at Gratitude the book.

(13:55):
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You're at back after this.

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keep you hydrated throughout your day, and with ten percent
profits going to charity, every sip makes a difference. Pure taste,
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(14:26):
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(14:47):
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(15:11):
back to the Polished Beauty segment. Today, we're diving into
the extraordinary journey of a woman who has shown the
world that it's never too late to transform your life.
At the age of seventy, Joan McDonald decided to rewrite
her story. Facing serious health issues, She embarked on a
fitness journey that not only shed over seventy pounds, but

(15:31):
also gained her immense physical and mental strength. Today, she's
a global fitness icon with over one point eight million
followers on Instagram. She goes by the handle train with Joan.
She inspires people of all ages to embrace healthier lifestyles.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Her story has.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Been featured in Shape Forbes, and women's health, making her
a beacon of resilience, self love, and empowerment. Joining me
today is my fabulous contributor, doctor Daisy Aim, Triple Board
certified OBGYN, cosmetic surgeon and founder of the Polished Beauty podcast. Together,
we'll chat with Joan about her journey, what keeps her motivated,

(16:07):
and practical tips to help you optimize your health at
any age. Joan McDonald is proving it's never too late
to rewrite your fitness story. Joan, Welcome to the show, Superstart.

Speaker 8 (16:19):
Welcome, Johanna. I'm so excited.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Thank you, doctor Daisy.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
All right, So, Joan, your story is so relatable to
millions of people, especially women who are dealing with health
challenges later in life. And according to a study in
the Journal of Aging and Physical Activity, regular exercise can
reduce chronic disease risks by up to fifty percent in seniors,
Yet only about twenty eight percent of adults over sixty

(16:44):
engage in sufficient physical activity. What was the tipping point
for you to embrace finish at seventy and how did
you overcome the mental and physical barriers at the very beginning?

Speaker 9 (16:55):
Okay, the tipping point actually was I was very upset
with my life the way it was going.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
I kept thinking to myself, is this it?

Speaker 9 (17:04):
My daughter threw down the challenge and I just felt
ready to pick up the gauntlet and join her transformation group.
I was having trouble with my gardening and my bicycle
riding and walking upstairs. I needed a change.

Speaker 10 (17:23):
And change you got it. You know, the standard American
diet is nutrient four. So nutrition is a big part
in any lifestyle or fitness journey. I want to know, Joan,
how has that evolved with you starting your journey with
fitness and where you are You're nutrition.

Speaker 9 (17:39):
You have to have protein, you have to have good fats,
you have to have a certain amount of carbs, and
I had to be sustainable, like I'm not well. These
people that can go on a great fruit diet or whatever,
it's crazy. You have to be able to eat properly

(18:00):
and be able to eat socially as well as every day.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
But when it comes to starting a fitness routine, many
people are paralyzed by the idea of doing too much
and too soon, and research from the American Council on
Exercise suggests that small, consistent steps can lead to long
term success. So what advice would you give to someone
who feels overwhelmed at the thought of even starting their
fitness journey, especially later in life.

Speaker 9 (18:27):
Start off small, but be consistent. You can't just do
it one day and then a week later do it again.
It's it's every day you get into a routine, you practice,
like I said, doing small things, but each thing that
you do becomes easier.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
It's like when you were a child.

Speaker 9 (18:51):
Everything you did was hard until you practiced it, you know,
and then it got easier, and then you can do
things more aggressively as you go along.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
And that's fanlastic advice. That's fantastic advice.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
And I love how you make it about celebrating small
victories instead of chasing perfection, right because it's a perspective
we all need to.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
Not about perfection. It's about consistency and habit.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
Now, Joan, I want to know for that woman or man.

Speaker 12 (19:28):
Later in life that embraces fitness that you have, there's
gonna be tough days. So it's gonna be days that
they just cannot get it going. How do you stay
motivated and consistent insistent in well? Where do you get
that from?

Speaker 13 (19:42):
With me?

Speaker 9 (19:43):
It's more of stubbornness than anything else. I know that
what I want I have to embrace it and do it,
whether I feel like doing it or not. We had
a challenge about one percent, and that one percent of
anything we do in life, as long as you're doing

(20:04):
one percent better, it's going to have a big impact
in a short period of time. Whether it's eating, sleeping, hydrating,
and your nutrition. It's all something that you can accomplish.
And it doesn't have to feel like, oh, I can't.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Do this, you know, Johanne.

Speaker 12 (20:27):
One of the conversations, or as you say, a recurrent
theme in my practice with patients when I try to
encourage exercise, nutrition and just embracing that lifestyle later in life,
the common thing I get back is, oh, my knee hurts,
or my back hurts, or I have this medical element's
restraining me, or there's always something to explain why it

(20:51):
cannot be done.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
So what I want is if you can share with us,
what are some of the.

Speaker 12 (20:57):
Meats in aging and exercise that you can debunk for us.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
There's nothing written that says you can't change. No matter
how old you are or how young, we all can change.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
We've done it from the day we were born.

Speaker 9 (21:13):
It's all in what you want, all where you put
your the emphasis in your life. And you have to
love yourself before you can actually love others. You need
to know that things are going to hurt, but you'll
get over it. It's not you don't have to put
up with pain. You have to put up with discomfort.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
That's a great one. That's a great myth that you
debunk right there. You don't have to put up with pain,
you have to put up with discomfort. You just said
it all in that sentence. And that brings me to
something else. Social media, right, that can be a double
edged sword, especially for especially for influencers like you, and one,

(21:57):
on one hand, it's a platform for positivity, and on
the other it can expose you to criticism.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
And it's interesting because the research doesn't lie.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
According to Pure Research, forty one percent of online adults
over sixty five are now active on social platforms. So
how do you stay positive and manage the pressures of
being a fitness influencer in such a public space.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
I've had a lot of criticism.

Speaker 9 (22:21):
I've had people saying that I've used steroids and stuff
like that. It's not possible to have muscle definition in
your body when you get older. That's well, I'm sorry
to say, or I'm glad to say that they don't
know what they're talking about. I have never had to

(22:41):
take any of that stuff. I don't want it in
my body, for one thing. And I just feel that
I'm naturally strong. I've had to work hard for everything
I've done in my life, and I think most women do.
They don't even realize how much they do in their lifetime,
and they they got, they don't give themselves credit because

(23:05):
they've never been given credit by outsiders. I've heard this
for so long. You're finished when you're forty, he's rough
like it. Really you're finished. No, you're starting, You're really
just starting. And I wish I would have had well,

(23:27):
if my daughter couldn't have been any hold it and
what you want it's for younger than what she was
to teach me. Thank god I had her because she's
been such a motivation to me to keep doing what
I'm doing, to show the world that change can come

(23:48):
about no matter what your age is, and it is
can be positive. The only thing stopping you from being
the best of what you can be is yourself. Us
can do it for you. You've got to do the hards.

Speaker 12 (24:02):
Yeah, you know, one of the things I wanted to touch on.
You know, you say so beautifully, you are living. You
don't stop living in your sixties or seventies or eighties.
You stop living when it's over. So before that time,
let's live and let's live.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
Well, what exercise would you recommend for someone in the
sixties seventies that they could start safely and effectively for.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
That at any age.

Speaker 9 (24:31):
Yes, well, three of the things that I think people
should start moving. For one thing, none of us sitting
on the couch watching the boob tooth. Whether it's walking, biking, swimming, dancing,
they all contribute. And this fun stuff exercising, squatting to

(24:54):
a chair. Do you know how hard it is for
older people to sit down without holding on to something
and getting back up without holding onto something.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
You can do it. You start off very small.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
You do it just just for your body weight to
begin with, and then you start using some kind of weight,
whether it's a dumbbell or a package of food that
you have in the house. I mean, you can make
anything work for you, but just being able to sit
down and get back up without having arms or supports

(25:35):
of any sort that I've seen so many people in
nursing homes that could not do that. They weren't even
encouraged to do it because they might fall. You can't
be afraid of life. If you want to get anywhere,
you have to embrace it. And the other thing is

(25:56):
even doing If you have a loop ban on loop,
you stand on it, you grab it with both hands,
and you do bicep curls.

Speaker 12 (26:07):
Yeah, you know, resistance ban is one of the things
I use a lot, and I actually recommend that to
my patients because there's a lot of self control with it,
and you know, you have different varieties trend and it
is quite safe.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So I'm glad you mentioned that.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Well, we are officially officially out of time, Joe. Your
story is an incredible reminder that it's never too late
to rewrite your health narrative. So I thank you for
inspiring us with your journey and sharing these practical uplifting tips.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
It was truly inspiring.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
Well, thank you so much for that, Listeners.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
If you want to learn more about Joan and join
her incredible community, follow her on Instagram at train with Joan,
and visit her website at train with Joanofficial dot com
and doctor Daisy of course. For more invaluable insight, you
could head to the Polished Beauty Podcast on Instagram, or
you could head to the Polished Beauty podcast dot com

(26:58):
and to follow more of doctor Daisy, you could head
to doctor Daisy Aim on Instagram. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven to ten WR
the voice of New york iHeartRadio, and to our audience,
remember transformation starts with one step forward. Stay tuned for
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Zenzams up next in the Going Deep segment, brought to
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surgeons recurring guests, Doctor Brad Calibres, the founder of Caloesthetics
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doc awards by both patients and his peers. Joining him
is doctor Juan Quintero, with over sixteen years of esthetic
plastic surgery experience in Kentucky and being recognized for both
his dedication and exceptional patient care. He has joined forces
with doctor Calibres where they are both recognized leaders in
esthetic breast surgery. And that's exactly what we'll be talking

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about today, specifically Motiva breast implants, which are one of
the most used breast implants worldwide, but just gained FDA
approval in the US in September of twenty twenty four. Now,
doctor Calibres was impressively the first plastic surgeon in the
United States to perform a breast augmentation using FDA approved
Motiva breast implants. Welcoming now to the show to tell

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us all about it are the experts themselves, doctor Brad
Calibres and doctor Juan Quintero.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Welcome, superstars, Thank you then, thank you, good for you,
Glad to be here.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
So excited to have you back on. Doctor Calibres so
let's start with you.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
You are well.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Let me acknowledge. Thank you so much, doctor Quintero for
joining us today. Your expertise is going to be invaluable
to help us bring the message home. So doctor calibrace
with you are a recognized authority on breast augmentation and
breastlift surgery, and I know you were directly involved in
the FDA clinical trials that led to the approval of

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Motiva breast implants for use in the US, and even
serve as the medical director of the FDA's post approval study.
What differentiates motiva breast implants from other implants on the
market and can you share insights into your involvement in
this FDA clinical trial?

Speaker 8 (30:30):
Okay, great zen, thank you well.

Speaker 15 (30:32):
I think it's really exciting for us who do a
lot of breast surgery have at least lectured and talked
about it. So because I travel so much around the world,
and you know, a leader in breast implants, it's been
years since we really had new innovation, but I would
see internationally that for the last fourteen years they had
this implant called Motiva implant.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
So many years.

Speaker 15 (30:54):
Ago I got involved with Establishment Labs out of Costa
Rica who makes the Motiva implant, and so I've known
about it. I went down to Costa Rica and did
surgery with that. I've lectured and traveled around the world
talking about it. And for all those years there was
no FDA approval, so I personally couldn't use it on
my own practice. Starting in twenty eighteen, Caroline Clicksmen out
of New Jersey, you guys may know, led the first

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FDA trials of the implants, which are both in breast
augmentation and breast reconstruction.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
And when we got to about four year data, the FDA.

Speaker 15 (31:29):
Through its very strict requirements, proved them for breast augmentation
that part of it. It's still not approved yet for
breast reconstruction, but for breast augmentation because of the scrutiny
they put towards these implants. What's different about motiva implants.
The Motiva implants are different in almost every way. They
have a different surface called a nanos surface or a

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smooth silk surface that's for micron, So it acts like
a smooth implant has that very very.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Minor texture to it.

Speaker 15 (31:58):
It's but because it has this very smooth surface, it
creates a non enogenic, non inflammatory, non fibratic surface, so
you don't really see capsule contractors.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
The rates less than one percent.

Speaker 15 (32:10):
They actually construct the implant as a monoblock, so the
shell and gel are connected as one, and it creates
a low rupture rate less than one percent. It's ten years,
and it has a very disco elastic property, so it's
very stretchable, so you put it through small incisions and
move it and it turns into more of a tear
drop shaped implant when placed in the body. I could

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go on and on, but it's just so different than
the implants we've had.

Speaker 8 (32:35):
In the pot.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Sounds a little bit safer than what we've had in
the past, and I know for those suffering from breast
implant illness, this could be a saving grace or perhaps
a light at the end of the tunnel, right, So
I love it that we're highlighting this now.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Doctor Quintero, let's shift to you.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
You are a specialist in breast surgeries and have experience
with motiva as well. With many more patients lined up
to receive these specific implants, who would you say is
the ideal candidate for motiva breast implants and what factors
do you consider when recommending them to a patient, So.

Speaker 16 (33:07):
Thank you for having us again, I said, actually, motiva
in general it's ideal for pretty much everyone. However, who
would I shy away from it depends on the chesswell,
on anatomy, somebody who has a sort of like a
sloping chesswall like doctor Caloris mentioned that there's no capsule
being formed by this implants like the other implants had,

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and so it probably you don't want somebody with that
type of chesswall where that capsule won't form and the
implant can actually draw too much. So ideally we have
other techniques to help with that. We're putting now internal
brass support and those type of patients. So actually motiva
can also be using those type of patients. But ideally
motiva has rejuvenated and you mentioned it. Actually it actually

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has targeted not only the physical but the emotion and
the mental aspect of a lot of patients who had
some concerns about you know, other implants creating diseases, et cetera.
So pretty much it has real neated the breast implant
industry in that aspect because we haven't had anything like
this in the last ten years or so.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
So we are looking forward.

Speaker 16 (34:07):
To continuing to do more of the surgeries and and we'll.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Keep up with you know, with the studies obviously as always.

Speaker 16 (34:14):
But I think it's actually ideal for pretty much everyone,
particularly capsular contractor patients who are getting this as a
secondary I was just telling doctor Calories had a patient
that had two caps at the contraction was done with implants.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
We're going to just take the inplants out.

Speaker 16 (34:27):
And when she harba motiva, she was like, I'm willing
to want, you know, one third time and try to
be also people who had concerns about possibility of you know,
alco breast cancer induced by the implants with the old
type of technology, you know, the texture, surface, et cetera.
But still it's all communication, knowledge and understanding of what
this implants supersus the older implant.

Speaker 15 (34:49):
Yeah, there's been no cases of lymphoma associated with this implant,
so it acts like a smooth implant. There's been no
them fomas from smooth implants either, So it gets confusing
because you almost could call it the textures it's for mi.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
But it really in every way is smooth.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
You know.

Speaker 15 (35:03):
The other person who I think isn't a great candidate
is somebody who wants a really really large, overdone, over
augmented look because it doesn't really form a capsule, so
you can imagine it, it may stretch the tissue more than
you wanted to. So I would just say everybody that
wants a really natural, normal breast and perfect breast and
wants to feel that this implant is as biocompatible as
an implant has ever been, and that then by biocompatible,

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I mean the body sees it itself and doesn't react
to it, if that's important.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
And it is so that you mentioned this this idea.

Speaker 15 (35:34):
I think there's this whole idea of implant hesitancy people.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Well, let me tell you, not only are you spot
on and right now whether we digress just a little bit,
but I do want to address the breast implant community
because I suffered from breast implant and ill liss and
just recently took my breast implots out one year ago
to Sembary eighteenth and did not choose to reimplant for
this very reason, opted for just a natural, you know, lift,

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and paused and.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Want to proceed with caution.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
And I'm waiting to see what's available on the market.
This sounds very interesting to me. I never suffer from
BII in my life, but when there was a small
rupture with my saline nemplants, I only had two fifty ccs.
The mold accumulated around that valve, and that mold was
causing my body to react very poorly until they were
removed and the mold was actually discovered and sent to

(36:24):
a lab for testing, and it was the highest and
the most dangerous mold sport of that the equivalent of
what you would find in a washing machine. So putting
something into my body was very scary. But now I
have to say, with the education I'm ingesting in this interview,
I'm feeling I'm feeling more comfortable. So big shout out

(36:44):
to the women out there that know that I'm a
big advocate for breast and plant illness because I don't
believe it's a hogwash, and you both said it. These
have clinical trials and more importantly that biocompatibility. So let's
chat about the healing process, Doctor Calo, I know that
the motiva breast and are known for having less of
an inflammatory response and offer a smaller incision to reduce

(37:05):
that visible scarring and going one step further, there are
products out there like the CO two lift prow that
could further aid in recovery pros procedure. I use them
after my explant surgery. By the way, I use this
pro mask all over my incisions and it was amazing.
So in your experience, how soon can patients return to
daily activities and more strenous exercise after implanting and what

(37:29):
methods do you recommend to manage discomfort during the recovery period.

Speaker 15 (37:33):
Yeah, so I will believe that. You know, motiva implants
are unique in that they don't really create fibrosis, so
they need to like do massage and do all of
that isn't necessary because these soften up very very easily.
We let people go back to regular daily activity within
a day or two. They're very very quickly back to
work in two to three days. We don't let them
exercise for three to four weeks afterwards, but normal stuff

(37:56):
let them. We don't want the herd rate to go
up till about three weeks after surgery at that plant
that they can start running and doing things like that.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
So it's quicker than people think.

Speaker 15 (38:04):
What's changed also, zen which maybe people to understand is historically,
for years and years, me included, we placed implants under
the muscle. Right, that creates a lot of distortions of
the breast implants, a lot of pain for women and fibrosis.
It's uncomfortable, especially women who work out. But beyond that,

(38:26):
it's not the natural place for an implant to be.
We did that because we needed to reduce the risk
of capsular contracts, because if you went above the muscle,
it was just too high. The implants got too hard
over time. The Motiva implant, whether it's under the muscle
or above the muscle, has the same low, low capsule
contraction rate, which allows us now to place the implants

(38:47):
above the muscle in a more natural position as long
as somebody has enough tissue coverage so you have way
less pain and recovery after that in a more natural
look with the implant. It's powerful in its ability to
allow us to use all the pockets differently, go above
the muscle, less pain and problems for our patient.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Super powerful right right exactly, It all makes sense and
the science is the science. Now, Doctor Kuntera, with your
extensive experience using various types of breast implants, how have
your patients responded to motiva implants in terms of aesthetics, comfort,
and even overall satisfaction compared to other options.

Speaker 16 (39:24):
Well, so far, I would tell you Sam, so good
because I'm telling you every patient has been excited. We're
noticing that people actually are very educated and they're coming
into the practice knowing already what motiva is and brings,
so they already know. I had a patient yesterday that
literally was waiting for motiva and was going to go
to South Korea or maybe Turkey to have motiva and

(39:45):
plus done until we finally released them in the US.
So I mean people are coming in knowing and knowledge
is power. They're very, very happy with the immediate post
off results, the softness, the recovery. I think it brings
again this mental health Soto cung for.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, it's just just I don't know.

Speaker 17 (40:04):
How to express it. It's peace of mind because they
have done the studies. They know we presented with the
science and they say, wow, in fourteen years of being
out there, in six years of day approval, more years
than any other implant in the industry. The other implants
had a two year FB eight Well, no studies, yea,
that's right.

Speaker 15 (40:21):
And I hate that then you had that experience with
breast implants. I can't even tell you how much I
hate it for somebody who knows about breast implants really well.
I always tell patients I may be an implant advocates
I've published on implants, but I'm mostly a patient advocate,
and just because they have patients had implants doesn't mean
they have to have them. We have found I published

(40:41):
a lot on techniques to take out implants and reconstruct
as you mentioned, breast lifts, auto augmentations, fat graphic. We
have a lot of options. But sometimes even when we
do all of that, the patients miss their implants, and
they just want to feel comfortable with an implant because
they like the look of it, and they kind of
need the look up it in a way because they
don't have their own tissue. This really does open up

(41:04):
at least a dialogue that we can have with them
for the future.

Speaker 8 (41:08):
Maybe we have we get some more information, more data.

Speaker 15 (41:10):
Even you may some day go, you know what, I'm
feeling much more comfortable about this implant now, and I
kind of miss some of that volume, you know, so,
but we only.

Speaker 8 (41:20):
Would put implants in keeping patients healthy.

Speaker 16 (41:22):
Yeah, there's a lot of experiment and a shift in
patients that actually as many explanations as we're doing now,
I think, yeah, some of that tide is actually changing
into consideration again or saying like wait a minute, I
don't have to expland maybe I can, you know, just
remove and replace.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
So yeah, and now with the motiva implants the modalities
post surgery for healing and scarring and decrease bruising, talk
to me about how you're incorporating the zoo to lift
pro gel with your with post procedure.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
CO two lifts are powerful and maybe one can do that.
You know, they are really great.

Speaker 15 (41:57):
We had a patient the other day who was ruggling
with circulation to the skin. We had one with the
tummy top, one with a nipple. Because we do a
lot of breastlifts and we have a lot of decisions,
we're moving tissue around. We needed to stay alive. What's
powerful about the CO two lift, which is carboxyl therapy,
which is really CO two that goes into the tissue

(42:18):
and when it does that, it delivers more oxygen to
the tissue and it increases the blood circulation to the tissue.
So we see that things that are on the edge
start to recover, So you can imagine in scarring and
in scars matter. If somebody's worried about it, you can
use it. As you mentioned, you can use the CO
two lift to drive in more oxygen, drive in more hydration,

(42:39):
drive in more circulation, increase the elasticity of the tissue,
which could be extremely powerful in getting them through the
healing process.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
So that's how we use it.

Speaker 15 (42:47):
You can use it anybody that you feel like has
any need for it, use it, or you can use
it routinely for that. So we'll use it in both ways,
routinely and or selectively in patients based upon what's going
on with them.

Speaker 16 (42:59):
Carboxy yet definitely Carboxy therapy has been around for many,
many years since the nineteen thirties. I mean they've injected
CO two into the actual skin for hair growth and
all kinds of different things. So now having this gen
on this mask, it's an extra weapon that we have
to adhere to scarring. I'm a big proponent of it.
I use it actually in all it's not readated to
brass impac veraries. In all my vaginal uvenation procedures, which

(43:22):
I do a lot of those, and also we're using
it in scarring obviously their face, so it's very very powerful.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
Yeah, the v LIPT, so believe that it is a
bagelal surgery.

Speaker 15 (43:31):
You use the v lipt and things like that with
kapoxy therapy because you imagine increase elasticity, intree circulation, increase hydration,
increased circulation.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
All that matters in the healing process for the surgeries.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
We love highlighting your voice. Thank you both so much
for joining us. It was incredible and really informative, and
not were you just informative, but.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
You were transparent, which I love.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
You admitted the faults of the past techniques, you talked
about the new things you've learned. You talked about the
trials you went through to bring this to market safely
and effectively for your patients. That's, at the end of
the day, what it's about. It's all about serving the
patients ethically and effectively. So thank you both, Yeah, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
Then we appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
That was our Going Deep segment brought to you by
CO two Lift and our expert on the microphone series,
and that was the incredible Doctor Brad Calibres and doctor
Juan Quintero of calo Esthetics and Callospat in Louisville, Kentucky.
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Speaker 13 (45:36):
Hi, am Vince Molinari, and welcome to Fintech TV. We're
broadcasting from the iconic New York Stock Exchange, and i'd
like to welcome back Deron Guidry and his co founder
Colin Costella, both, as I say, co founders of Players
TV RON. Welcome back, Colin. Great to have here in
New York at the New York Stock Stage.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Welcome, Yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 13 (45:56):
Well a lot I want to cover, but we're to
jump in first. Talk a little bit about your background.
We had the benefit of being with Doran in the
previous interview, kind of this eclectic, different background from I
think school teacher. Ray would tell us a little bit
about the journey and the point of which you guys
became partners.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Yeah, it's been a bit of a wild ride.

Speaker 18 (46:15):
So I started as a junior high and high school
art teacher back in like a rural town in Idaho,
shout out nots pirates and essentially, you know, really wanted
to make sports and basketball my full time gig. Didn't
know I was going to want to be a coach
or you know, essentially coach AAU high school whatever it is.
And then really kind of got into the content name
of the game when I started my online basketball training

(46:36):
company called shot Mechanics.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
So I ended up growing that into a big YouTube
channel about.

Speaker 18 (46:40):
One point three million subscribers and one hundred and fifty
million lifetime videos. Yeah, and so I had a really
fun run, and that's where I met Dorona the first time.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Brian him on board. He helped monetize the thing.

Speaker 18 (46:50):
We did a lot of really cool brand partnerships together
throughout the time, and it was really awesome because it
was kind of like my PhD in online business, but
also an opportunity to help a lot of kids around
the world.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
So that was really fun.

Speaker 18 (47:01):
But then once I started kind of going, I fell
less in love with basketball training and education and more
in love with the content production side of the equation.
So I started doing a lot of consulting for companies
like Nike, the Jordan brand, the NBA, both is on
camera talent as well as like producing, and I.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Could see how spot on. Great job. Yeah, tell me more, well,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 18 (47:20):
So at that point, that's when Deron was starting to
kind of like cook on the idea of Players TV.
And so essentially, you know, we'd already had a great
working relationship together. He knew I was the content guy,
and I was kind of thinking about content from a
different lens than kind of like the traditional Hollywood background
where it's got a costa gazillion dollars and the margins
are super thin. And so you know, we kind of
came together and we're definitely very much yin and yang.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
So that's been fun.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Well, I love this.

Speaker 13 (47:43):
I didn't have the benefit of understanding the legacy prior
to co founding Players TV, but makes so much sense,
this great dynamic that you guys have, and you know, Joan,
tell me a little bit. I know you talked a
bit about it now first interview Players TV.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
This vision.

Speaker 13 (47:59):
You know, I'm still in seventy plus professional athletes that
are your shareholders part of that franchise. Give me the
vision and how you arrived there, because that's that's no
easy lift.

Speaker 19 (48:09):
Yeah, I think it was more of a timing thing.

Speaker 20 (48:12):
I thought a lot of the athletes looking to cret
production companies, but they didn't really have a distribution. So
we saw this huge white space like if we can
get in there support these athletes think you always have
their own home. They should be their content and being
able to buntize their content and concept more fans thought
we'd have a great win in our hands.

Speaker 21 (48:28):
So that's what we did, and we lean into a
white space that had a problem we.

Speaker 13 (48:32):
Solved well, you solved it beautifully and kudos and as
a fellow content creative media company, I am just a
big fan of what you all are doing. So you
left us with a cliffhanger last time. It was like,
you know, if you were here, kN I was like, Hey,
I'm going to tell you a little bit this act
about this acquisit?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Wow?

Speaker 13 (48:49):
I can't tell you now right? So it was so
well done. So we're back. Tell me about the acquisition.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
What happened?

Speaker 8 (48:55):
You completed?

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Where are we?

Speaker 9 (48:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (48:58):
And remember what I wish it was book on how
to buy a company, but it's not book how to
buy a company. But it was really amazing to go
through the process thing opportunity with a company that can
utilize our services at the right time them the needed
us at the right time, and I think the basic
good partnership is when both parties need each other to grow.

Speaker 22 (49:17):
And were to acquire an ad tech company that allowed
us now to add to our current story of being
the first ever athlete owned media company that has media
distribution and now technology now to be able to connect with.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
More fans around the world at scale.

Speaker 21 (49:31):
So it was companies called stem ce Cloud Media out
of Jacksonville, Florida, and we were able to do our
first acquisition and uh, I would do the hardest part
of acquiring a company is.

Speaker 13 (49:41):
The integration right after the follow on book of the acquisition, right,
it's the next one on integration. You know, Colin talk
to is a bit about our audience who doesn't know
what ad tech is, what that means, and why it's
so important within the framework of differentiating.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
So you continue to hit these first as players TV.

Speaker 13 (49:59):
Now the tech component, what does that mean for the
business and you know what what is actech?

Speaker 6 (50:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (50:03):
Huge?

Speaker 18 (50:04):
I mean, first and foremost, it absolutely skyrocked. It's our
profit margin on advertising sales. So having that all in house,
having our own distribution network that we continue to build
to even more robust, you know kind of hype than
it was before has been huge.

Speaker 13 (50:17):
You know.

Speaker 18 (50:18):
The piece that a lot of people don't understand about
content media is there's a big difference between sponsored content
and advertising sales. And so essentially a lot of times,
you know, brands will start, they'll try to get in
the media space and they'll kind of hit these like
you know, one off content sponsorships and essentially that's great,
while I'll ask, but a it's definitely a hamster wheel.
Did you got to get on and you got to

(50:38):
keep running? The budgets generally are a lot lower. You
might be getting, you know, a thirty thousand dollars buy,
a fifty thousand dollars buy or whatever it is. But now,
especially with the advertising technology piece, we transact with advertising
buyers where essentially you're getting five hundred thousand dollars buys,
million dollar buys, and essentially you're running their media across
your network and not necessarily like hey, this you know
show is brought to you by you know whatever brand.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
And so for us, that was the biggest unlock.

Speaker 18 (51:01):
We saw this really big, you know, kind of clog
in the funnel when it came to sports media of
like number one, where's it gonna live? Is it just
gonna be on social? Is it going to be on
YouTube or whatever? And there was really no actual monestization
engine go behind it. So this advertising technology one our
play allows us to connect with both the advertising agencies
also the brands at scale and then really kind of
distribute the content on an even further basis.

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