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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to a Moment of Zen. Time to sit back
and relax. As model, actress, mentor and super mom, Zen
SAMs takes you on a sexy and wild ride covering
the latest in film, fashion, pop culture, cryptocurrency, fintech, cannabis,
and entertainment from the millennial mom's perspective. Here's your host,

(00:29):
Zen SAMs.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome back, beautiful Try State area. You're listening to a
Moment of Zen right here on seven to ten. Woar
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen SAMs.
Here's to another exciting episode. Always such a pleasure to
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Welcome back to a Moment of Zen alongside our experts
on the Microphone, where we cover fashion, pop culture, cryptocurrency, cannabis,
fintech and health and everything in between from the millennial
mom's perspective. Today we have an incredible lineup of conversations
that fuel the body, the mind, and of course the heart.

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Welcome to episode two hundred and forty one. We're celebrating
six years on air officially in the Hydration with Hart
segment brought to you by One's Fan a Coconut. Today's
conversation embraces turning up the volume on vulnerability. Helena Ellis
is one of Australia's most in demand DJs, tastemakers and
media personalities. She's a powerhouse who's turned her passion into purpose,

(02:02):
reminding women everywhere that you can be powerful, vulnerable and
polished all at once. You definitely want to tune into
this inspiring interview in honor of Women's Entrepreneurship Day, a
global celebration held annually November nineteenth, we're gonna go deep.
In the Going Deep segment brought to you by Co
two Lift. Joining us is founder and CEO Laniker, doctor

(02:23):
Heather Brennan, PhD. She's newly appointed president of Lumisk Skincare
and CO two Lift. They're gonna join me today to
explore CO two lifts next evolution, doctor Brennan's new leadership
chapter and a deeper conversation around what it means to
lead with both heart and science. In the Bright Brain segment,
we're chatting ADHD energy and the heart mind connection. We're

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gonna be joined by doctor Robert Malillo, Ellis Mililo, and
recording artist Young Wyland as we explore how the brain,
heart and creativity aligned to shape, focus, emotion, and purpose.
In the Better Brighter You segment, brought to you by Sispera,
where science meets confidence. Today, we're joined by doctor Rafael Cabrera.
He's a board certified plastic surgeon and founder of Plastic

(03:07):
Surgery Specialists in Boca Raton, Florida. We're going to dive
into how aesthetic beauty begins with healthy skin, exploring the
evolution of modern aesthetics, the rise of regenerative combination therapies
and how innovations like Cispera are actually transforming pigment, correction
and confidence from the inside out. In the Express Clean
Collective segment, brought to you by Crunchy, We're going to

(03:29):
be talking about something most of us never questioned, the
word fragrance on our personal care labels. YEP, it sounds harmless,
even luxurious at times, but that single word can hide
legally thousands of undisclosed chemicals, including known hormone disruptors. Stay
tuned for CO two lift. Our very own lineker and
doctor Heather Brennan are joining us honoring Women's Entrepreneurship Day.

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Speaker 3 (04:28):
Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven to ten war
the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen SAMs.
In honor of Women's Entrepreneurship Day, a global celebration held
annually on November nineteenth to recognize and amplify the achievements
of women entrepreneurs, we spotlight the innovators who are redefining

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industries and building a more sustainable, inclusive future. In that spirit,
today's Going Deep segment, brought to you by Co two Lift,
honors two powerhouse women at the forefront of science, back beauty,
regenerative wellness, and female led innovation. Joining us is founder
and CEO Laniker, a clinical innovator, multi business owner, author,

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and public speaker with over two decades of experience. Lana's
groundbreaking work led to the creation of CO two Lift
by Lumisk's Skincare, the first clinically proven gel carboxy therapy,
a category defining treatment that bridges the gap between medical
aesthetics and skin health. And joining us is doctor Heather Brennan,
newly appointed President of Lumisk and Co two Lifts as

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of this October twenty twenty five. With more than twenty
years of leadership in women's health, biomedical engineering and regenerative esthetics,
doctor Brennan has served as Vice president and general manager
at MTF's Biologics, Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery franchise and as
a general manager Global Markets for Establishment Labs, where she
helped expand access to cutting edge medical technologies for women worldwide. Together,

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these two women embody the essence of women's entrepreneurship day,
merging scientific innovation, global vision, and purpose driven leadership to
empower confidence, healing and longevity. They're going to join me
right now to explore CO two lifts, next evolution, Doctor
Brennan's new leadership chapter, and the deeper conversation around what
it means to lead with both heart and science. Welcome

(06:17):
to the show, Superstars, Thank you, Zen, It's good to
be here.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Thank you Zen.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Doctor Brennan. Welcome to the family.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Thank you, so excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
So I'm going to start with you the global medical
aesthetics market, you know better than anyone, has grown into
a sixty five billion dollar industry with a clear shift
towards regenitive and non invasive treatments, those that stimulate the
body's owne healing mechanisms rather than simply making aging right.
So CO two Lift has been one of those rare
brands to straddle both worlds, clinically validated yet accessible, rooted

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in both biotechnology and beauty. You stepped into your role
as president at a very pivotal moment for the company
as it continues to set the standard in skin health,
intimate wellness, age management. What excites you most about where
CO two lift is headed and how do you see
your leadership shaping its next chapter.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
You know what excites me the most is the technology
that's first and foremost. I've been in the space a
very long time, and to find a technology that really
sets up its own category and is effective, incredibly effective,
creates a platform is simple to use, harnesses the body's
own ability to perform and regenerate as it normally would

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is really game changing. Second, what attracted me is the
woman that is sitting here and sharing the stage with me.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Today.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I mean, there's no way not to love Loneker when
you meet her. Her vision and excitement and passion around
the brand, but also around women's wellness and how we
bridge that gap between science and clinical and women's wellness
and patient care. Really just it inspired.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Me and inspires me every day in terms of my leadership,
you know, I think what I'm here to do is
really take this amazing, beautiful foundation that's been set by
I Wana and team, which is incredible, by.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
The way, and really work to scale. We run a
growth trajectory at this company like no other, and it's
time to really think about how we bring this technology
into more spaces, really globalize the technology, and I'm hoping
I can be a piece of that or a part
of that, and help the technology grow and scale, and
also really leverage my science and clinical background to help

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bridge that sort of science and patient care gap, which
Lana has already put the company on a position or
in a great position to do.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Boom bring it home, baby. I love how you frame
innovation not just as newness, but as a disciplined evolution,
and it's clear that with your scientific and strategic background,
you're going to usher in a truly elevated era for
the brand. I have no doubt. Now, Lana, you've led
CO two lift through every phase, ideation, formulation, global distribution,

(09:00):
and now this expansion signals a new horizon for Lumisk's ecosystem.
As founder and CEO, you've built Lumisk's skincare and CEO
to lift from the ground up. So what inspired you
to bring doctor Heather Brennan on board and what strengths
do you believe she brings that compliment your own? Oh
my goodness.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
First of all, this is so emotional for me right now,
just to have Heather here. It's truly a vision that
I had in my mind from to have a woman
like Heather.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
But what it really inspired me to break to bring
doctor Brennan.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
On was just that I wanted someone who could match
passion with precision. You know, she brings a deep scientific
and clinical understanding that perfectly compliments my creative and entrepreneurial drive.
You know, I've always led with vision and innovation, and
she groans that with data, with structure, with credibility, and

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I feel together we're going to bridge the art and
science together. My focus is more on storytelling and brand
mission and hers ensures that everything we do is backed
by real regenerative science. So that's what I think she brings,
and I'm looking forward to seeing how the company grows
with her involvement and her leadership.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Now, doctor Brennan, your background in biomedical engineering and regenitive
aesthetics is fascinating because it reflects the future of beauty
where form meets function and biology meets empowerment, so to speak. Right, So,
with your extensive experience guiding global organizations at the intersection
of science and patient centered care, how does your background
and personal mission more importantly align with CO two Lift

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and how do you plan to continue expanding innovation and
elevating that global education we have.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I mean, this is a women founded, women led company.
We have an all female senior leadership team in our
commercial organization. That's not you know, that's still pretty rare
and unique even in the space. So that makes me
incredibly proud. My personal mission not only to lead with
strong women and really embrace women's health and enable that

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women's health gap between science and health to really be closed,
is just it's right, It's in my heart, it's right
in my personal mission. Professionally, my background and experience I
think is fully aligned.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
And my goal is to.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Really continue Like I said, I mean what they've with
this organization has done so far in terms of science
and clinical that's the beauty. Lana had this vision that
she knew that we needed this particular technology to be
science backed and clinically backed, and so I am very
excited to continue to build on that science, on the

(11:49):
clinically based validation around this technology and really enhance what
carboxy therapy can do in the world.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, without a doubt, and that holistic blend of sear
science and education and accessibility is exactly what modern women
are looking for. It's empowerment through evidence really now, Lana,
carboxy therapy has an extraordinary legacy. First used in nineteen
thirty two at the Royal Spa in France to treat
circulatory disorders, it now has evolved into one of the

(12:17):
most studied modalities in regenitive medicine. CO two Lift revolutionized
this century old science by literally creating a topical delivery
system that mimics the same oxygenation process safely, effectively, and
without injections. That's a leap from clinical innovation to consumer empowerment.
Right there, you've built co two Lift from an idea

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into a trusted professional and this consumer brand. Now, what
do you think has been the key to earning credibility
in a space that's often oversaturated with trends and quick fixes.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Well, you said it, and Heather just said it in
her answer previously, But the key really has been staying
rooted in science, results and not marketing. You know, from
day one we focused on clinical validation, physician partnership, and transparency.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
We really never follow trends. We created something new that
actually works, as you mentioned, and stands the test of time.
People trust COO two Lift because it delivers consistent, visible
results and it's supported by real data and education. That
integrity doing what we say and proving it is really

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what builds our credibility.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, that's a refreshing reminder that true credibility doesn't come
from marketing. You just said it. It's earned through consistency,
clinical validation and results people can feel and see. So
you're right now, doctor Brennan. Beyond your scientific expertise, you're
also a vocal advocate for holistic and women's and women's wellness.
Your experience in mental and behavioral health initiatives brings an

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important whole person perspective to COO two Lift's mission. Now,
as a woman leading in the aesthetic space, how do
you hope to band COO toolifts impact in advancing women's
health not just through skincare, but through overall wellness and empowerment.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
While I would say that this product, in this technology,
of course, is not just about skin health, I do
think that in general as a society, we underestimate the
importance of skin health. I mean, skin health and wellness
is so important. This is the largest door you hear at.
It's so cliche, the largest organ in our body, the
microbiome of our skin is incredibly important. Health and wellness

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really starts on the outside with the skin, and that
is incredibly important. That being said, this particular product is
far more than that, right. This product is about making
women and men, but making women feel good about themselves,
to gain confidence, to really feel good in their own skin.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Right, no pun intended. And so I think from head to.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Toe, what I want to do in my goal and
what I want to see for this brand is to
continue to expand into areas that are really really impactful
for women, areas like breast cancer survivorship post mestac to
me breast reconstruction, which is an area very close to
my heart and experience. It just I think the product

(15:15):
itself has the ability to really be life changing, and
we want to see that continue and happen.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's such an empowering approach because it's not just self care, right,
it's self respect backed by science. And I love that
your mission goes far beyond the mirror. It's important. All right, Well,
we are at the end of our date. My dear friends, Lano,
is there something you want to add to the conversation
before we sign off?

Speaker 6 (15:39):
I think you've handled this really well. I love the questions,
I love Heather. I am so grateful.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
For this moment, and I'm just excited about what is
to come. So thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
There's a lot to come. We are at the end
of this interview. That was the incredible Lanaker, CEO and
founder of CO two Lift and Lumisk Skincare, and doctor
Heather Brennan, president of lou To learn more, you could
visit co two lift dot com and be sure to
follow them on the gram at CO two Lift, at
the line o cur with two rs and at Heather
Underscore Brennan eight two eight. You're listening to a moment

(16:12):
of Zen right here on seven to ten WR, the
voice of New York iHeartRadio. That was the Going Deep
segment brought to you by Co two Lift. We'll be
right back after this.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
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Speaker 9 (16:35):
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Speaker 8 (16:36):
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Speaker 3 (16:47):
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Welcome back, Beautiful Try State Area. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seven to ten WR,
the voice of New iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzam's welcome
back to the Hydration with Heart segment brought to you
by Once Upon a coconut, the drink with purpose that

(17:09):
keeps your body and your mission hydrated. And today's conversation
is titled turning up the volume on vulnerability, the Helena
Ellis Effect. That's right because in a world obsessed with perfection, authenticity,
well it's the new luxury and few women and body
that more than my guest today. Helena Ellis is one
of Australia's most in demand DJs, tastemakers and media personalities.

(17:33):
She's a powerhouse who's turned her passion into purpose. She's
headlined sold out Ellis Island parties, commanded festival main stages
and spun for brands like Ferrari, Gucci, Vogue, yisl and Bacardi.
She's a former number one radio host. She's shared stages
with icons from Snoop Dogg to The Weekend to Asap Rocky,

(17:55):
proving that talent, grit and glamour can in fact coexist.
Elena's story goes beyond the beat. She's the co creator
and co host of the More Is Never Enough podcast,
and in just months it's become a global sisterhood that
blends unfiltered on to see with high energy humor, reminding
women everywhere that you can be powerful, vulnerable, and polished

(18:16):
all at once. Her viral Big Sister series on TikTok
has reached millions, tackling everything from boundaries to burnout self
worth to social media sanity, and through it all, she
reminds us that hydration isn't just about water, It's about
staying emotionally full in a world that constantly tries to
drain you. I know you all mama's out there can relate.

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Helena Ellis. Welcome to the show, Superstar. Wow, what an
inro blowing my hand up, Piah, thank you so much.
I'm gonna have so much fun, so Helena. According to Forbes,
the global DJ industry hit two point five billion dollars
last year in twenty twenty four, yet fewer than fifteen
percent of headliners are women. You've handled stages upon stages,

(19:02):
I've seen it. You built communities, and you even launched
a charting podcast that champions women's voices very recently. We're
gonna get to that in a minute. But what was
the moment you realized you weren't just playing music, you
were changing the tempo for women in entertainment.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
For me, it was I started DJing about ten years ago.
So when I started DJing in Sydney, there was not
There was only one other female hip hop DJ that
I remember, and she was doing her thing, but it
wasn't on a big scale, and I was like, no,
I want to take this to a whole other level,
Like I want to make noise in my city. I'd

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go in rooms and it was just all men, and
it was predominantly men. But I stood my ground and
I always had like this chip on my shoulder that
all because I'm a girl. I don't want you to
think that, you know, just a pretty face is getting
me into rooms I had. I wanted to prove myself
and I worked twice as hard as every other guy

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in that room, and I wanted to make sure that
I was the best everywhere. So doing that, I think
that pushed me without me even realizing, to whole new levels.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, and that's the sound of women rerating the setlist.
I think it's very important. Now I'm going to move
on to the power of real talk. So your podcast
more is never enough exploded because it's real, and studies
show that seventy percent of gen Z trust creators who
share their struggles and more than those who look perfect
and your proof of that. So what made you lean

(20:33):
into vulnerability so publicly and how has that honesty transformed
the way people connect with you.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
It started for me from my family before.

Speaker 10 (20:43):
My grandmother, when she was just eighteen, left her village,
left her hometown. My great granddad grabbed her and said,
one thing you have to remember is always always speak
your truth, and don't ever be afraid of anybody ever.

Speaker 9 (21:01):
Ever, don't let anyone silence you.

Speaker 10 (21:03):
And I thought that was so powerful to tell a
woman in the sixties, when women were silenced back then
and told to be quiet. And you know, so when
I was growing up, I was quite shy, and my
grandmother grabbed me and she said the exact same thing
to me. She said, don't ever let anyone silence you.
Always speak your truth, always say how you're feeling and

(21:25):
go from there. And so that's been such a big
thing for me in my life, just always being real, honest, vulnerable,
because to me, it's like I will attract your vibe.
Your tribe to tracts your vibe. You know, your vibe
attracts your tribe. So if you're truthful with yourself, you
will be. Everyone around you is going to be truthful
to you, like the really you are with yourself, the

(21:47):
realer the world is with you, and you're going to
attract realness in your life. So I feel like through
that truth, I attract people who want truth and see
truth and love truth.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know, this is still perfect. Is so powerful because
you turned you turn transparency into therapy and millions are
learning that strength can sound soft sometimes and the vulnerability
and the honesty and I love yeah Yan Papoo's advice
here it's you know, generationally, it's what resonates with us.
But this is this is a great story. So now

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I'm going to move on to balancing the beats and
the burden. So behind the turntables in the podcast, there's
still a woman balancing career and motherhood and more importantly
self care. So how do you stay grounded when the
world expects you to be on twenty four to seven
as a mom, a performer, and a creator.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
That's the thing.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
We work a job that doesn't matter what's going on
in our personal life.

Speaker 9 (22:40):
We have to show up. We have to smile.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
Like there were days where you know, I'd be on
air and I was crying two minutes before from a
you're a lay, bad relationship or something that happened in
my life and i'd, you know, or a death of
someone close to me, I'd be in tears, and you
just have to automatically smile and just turn on and
be happy for the world and be there for people.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
And perform for people.

Speaker 10 (23:02):
That grounded me. And that made me balance my emotions
because it just forces you. And it's not that it's
not a fake thing. It just forces you into a
different mindset, like mind space and a mindset, and it
makes you go, okay, leave leave the book behind and

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step into this different reality. But also to fill my cup,
I go to the beach. That's where I get on
my inspiration.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
I pray.

Speaker 10 (23:31):
I pray every day NonStop, and that's how a lot
of my ideas come to me. For my podcast, for
my shows, I just sit down and I'll just write
and it's like a stream of consciousness that comes through
me and I'll just go boom boom, bom bom and
I'll write. So you know, it's a bit of everything. Now,
let's move on to amplifying the next generation. So representation

(23:53):
inspires replication. You've mentored and uplifted emerging female DJs and
creatives who see themselves in you.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
So how do you use your platform, whether through your sets,
your social content, or through the podcast. More is never
enough to create more seats at the table for the
next generation of women in music and media.

Speaker 10 (24:13):
I'm constantly constantly asking women, Hey, come on the show,
come on the podcast.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Like I've got my eye out.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
Constantly scanning for women who are just on their own
doing their own thing.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
I can tell when you've been in this industry for years.

Speaker 10 (24:28):
You can tell the real ones, and you can tell
the ones that just want the five minutes of fame.
So when I see women that have that hard work
ethic and they reach out to me and I can
genuinely tell they want this, I will happily help them.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
I mentor them.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
I've got so many messages with so many young women
where I give them advice on what to do and
how to start, and I always.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
Tell them the same thing. Be fearlessly yourself always. Always.

Speaker 10 (24:55):
There is only one of you. There is no no
one can replicate you, you know, so always show up
as yourself. And if people don't like it, then they're
gonna like it. Maybe next to you or any year.
Whatever you're doing, keep doing it and your time will come.
It's such a cliche because I feel like we live
in a world where everyone you know, wants to copy

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each other and they see what makes you successful and
they want to do exactly what you're doing, you know.
And I think when you're naturally talented at something, people think, oh,
it's so easy. If she can do it, I can
do it too.

Speaker 11 (25:27):
Well.

Speaker 9 (25:27):
No, it's because you found who you are and that's
what makes it so effortless.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
So constant remind women, be yourself, do yourself, find your talents,
experiment and that is what's gonna because there's only one
you and then and the only person I'm going to
compete with is the person you were yesterday.

Speaker 9 (25:45):
Keep going, keep doing something you know.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Beautiful. While we're at the end, this has been an official,
amazing interview that could go on for another thirty minutes,
but it was so much fun. I mean, thank you
for bringing your truth, your rhythm and you're reading and
energy to as today. I had such a great time
chatting with you.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure and
I can't wait to chat to you get again.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Very soon to our listeners. Stay hydrated with Heart and
check out Helena's podcast That More Is Never Enough podcast
for raw, real and relatable conversations that remind you enough
is already within you, and you can follow her directly
on the Gram, on TikTok all over social media at
dj helenea. Ellis for daily motivation and empowerment. Sets to

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years of experience, doctor Cabrera has helped redefine modern aesthetics
by combining advanced surgical techniques, regenerative approaches using auto logus,

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fat and stem cells, and next generation non invasion non
invasive options like m Sculptno. He's also known for his honesty,
his transparency, and natural looking results, all while reminding us
patients that the goal isn't perfection, it's confidence. We're going
to go beyond the filter. Why results and real results
start with real skin. Joining us. Right now is the

(28:13):
incredible doctor Raphael Cabrera on natural beauty science and that
power of cispera. Welcome to the show, a superstar, pleasure
to be here, so excited to kick this off. So
let's start with the art and science of esthetic balance,
because there has to be a balance. We live in
an era without a doubt, doctor Cabrera, you know this
more than anyone where social media has actually blurred that

(28:34):
line between aspiration and illusion. Right, filters have become, if
you call it, a modern day beauty standard, and that
really often distorts what's real and according if you look
at the stats to the American Academy of Facial Plastic
and Reconstructive Surgery, we got about seventy five percent of
surgeons that report that patients referencing social media filters when

(28:56):
describing their goals is over the top. Now you might
be one of them, right, How do you help patients
navigate between what they see online and what's realistically safe
available in your chair?

Speaker 12 (29:09):
Well, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Is the fact that I'm trying to help them navigate
the reality is that there's no way to avoid what's
out there. But you have to recognize that a lot
of what's out there is like little minds that you
have to sort of float around and try to figure
out what's the right part to do and what's the

(29:29):
wrong part to do, you know. In terms of filters
and what we see and how we perceive it, I
think that today it's exaggerated, but it probably has always
been the case. I remember growing up there was a
picture of my mom in the house when she was sixteen,
and it was beautifully airbrushed, you know, and this is
from literally eighty years ago now, So I think that

(29:51):
we have always tried to make ourselves appear in the
best light. But with the social media being so immediate
and so in our face literally and figuratively, it is exaggerated.
And unfortunately, when we used to look at that photo,
we could tell that it was airbrushed, and we weren't
fooled by that. But I think that people now look

(30:12):
at these filters and they see that as their new reality,
and that's that's where the problem is. And you're right,
we have to help them see what's real, what's not real,
what's possible, what's not possible, what should be done, what
shouldn't be done and all of the things in between.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And I love that. I love what you just said.
Helping patients chase confidence not perfection, And that's your job, right,
it's and it's really refreshing to hear a surgeon talk
about restraint as much as results. Now, this is going
to pivot very nicely when science meets skincare. Research published
in Dermatologic Surgery found that proper homecare can extend in

(30:50):
office results by up to sixty five percent longer. So
it's alluding to what you said. You know, you can
only do so much. It's what you do after the fact.
Now you've integrated medical grades can gear into your surgical
and your non surgical protocols, which I love. Why is
it so essential for long term patients, for long term
patient outcomes? What does that partnership look like with your patients?

Speaker 12 (31:11):
Well, you know, I tell people, the first thing people
notice the value is your skin. There's just no way
around it. Before they notice you have a jowl or
you you know you have a marionette line. It's your skin.
So without good skin, there is no surgical procedure that's
going to be successful in the sense that it makes
you rejuvenated. And you know, so much of what you

(31:32):
can do is free, you know. I mean we talk
about the products and but a lot of it is
just understanding, as you said, what's good for you and
what's not good for you, and taking the responsibility and
accountability to be the captain of your skin.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (31:48):
So first, the first things first, prevent, right, So that
means be careful when you're out in the sun, don't
weather yourself unnecessarily, hydrate your skin. You do those two things.
If you use sunblock and moisturizer, you're way ahead of
the game.

Speaker 13 (32:03):
Right.

Speaker 12 (32:03):
As you get older, you're gonna need a little bit
more help naturally, but if you start young, you're gonna
get the benefits sooner and for longer. And if you're
doing it because you invested money in a procedure, then yeah,
it's gonna last longer. Just as if you keep your
car in the garage after you wash it. You know,
it's just you're just preventing the recurrence of that problem.

Speaker 14 (32:25):
So I think.

Speaker 12 (32:26):
Behavior is important. I listen, I know we live in
a world where you know, media gratification is the way
and it's not sexy to say put sun block on,
but it works. It works, and it will save you money, time, effort, risk, recovery,
all of that in the future. But in terms of
what's available now, oh my god, it's like a whole

(32:48):
different world compared to when I started practice.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
The toolbox is full.

Speaker 12 (32:52):
Oh it's it's not even a toolbox anymore.

Speaker 14 (32:55):
I mean it's like a tool shed, you know.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
It's it's different.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
And now this brings me into the next topic, the
Sispara difference. So let's talk pigmentation, something that really affects
all skin tones yet is really misunderstood. And Sispera has
gained global attention for its patented systeamine based system which
is shown to significantly reduce hyperpigmentation without that hydrocrenona or retinoids.
And we know hydrocrinona and retinoids what that leads to

(33:22):
long term use. So what first drew you to incorporating
Sispera into your treatment plans and what kind of real
world results or patient feedback have you seen so far?

Speaker 12 (33:32):
Well, what drew me to Sispera is it's a real
paradigm shift and the way we consider hyperpigmentation. We have
always looked at hyperpigmentation is something that needed to be erased, removed,
whether it's with a laser or intense pulse light with hydroquinone,
trying to change to the skin properties. But imagine if

(33:52):
we just were able to have this encourage the skin,
if you will, to make less brown and just make
more pinks and yellows and make it more evenly. That's
all you need to do. Now your skin looks normal
again because it has the normal pigmentation. You have to
understand that brown pigments are a sign of damage. So

(34:13):
when you're making brown pigment, it's because you're damaging your skin.
So if you eliminate the damage and you want to
remove the brown pigments and avoid them from coming back,
that's what Sispara does. It has become a cornerstone of
skincare in my practice. Even tone, even skin looks good.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, that's great. And now let's talk about bridging procedures
and prevention because this is extremely important. The combination therapy
system that most doctor's offices have in place seems to
be the future where injectables, lasers, and skincare all work
in harmony. It's what we've been talking about, right, Yeah,
And according to real self insights of this year twenty

(34:55):
twenty five, they did a study eighty seven percent of
patients not for multimodal plans that combine procedures with skin maintenance.
So how do you approach building these integrated regiments and
how do you personalize them based on number one age
because that's very very indicative lifestyle or even skin type.

Speaker 12 (35:15):
You know, we do have to work around certain lifestyle
differences for people, but you know, the building blocks are
still there. They're still the same. It's always prevent as
much as you can listen. What we do here is
we try to solve a problem. You present the problem,
we try to solve it. Sometimes the answer is that

(35:35):
you have, either through age or because you were born
with certain features, there are anatomic differences that can be
made that will flatter you. That's where surgery comes in.
And then sometimes well the anatomy's okay, but it just
needs a little enhancement. Well maybe fillers can help you there.
Well the skin looks really bad, maybe we need a

(35:56):
total reset. Well something like laser might help you with that,
or a deep peel. But most people, you know, when
they're younger, they're working around the edges and they're doing prevention,
but once you get to surgery, you really need to
invest in the other parts as well. Otherwise you are
doing it.

Speaker 14 (36:13):
You know. I say, it's like.

Speaker 12 (36:14):
Going to Hawaii, getting on the plane, taking an eighteen
hour trip from here, landing in the airport, turning around
and going home. You went to Hawaii, but you got
none of the benefit. You have to do that last
little trip in the car to get to the beach. Yeah,
So enjoy it and skincare. While it doesn't seem like
it's so dramatic, is the most dramatic part when everything

(36:37):
is said and done, because that's what people see first.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, thank you so much for sharing your insights number
one and reminding us that the most beautiful results come
from authenticity and experience, working hand in hand. I truly
love this conversation. It turned into so much more than
just talking about hyperfigmentation.

Speaker 14 (36:54):
It's my pleasure.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 14 (36:55):
You're very kind.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
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Speaker 3 (38:27):
Welcome back, beautiful tri State area. You're listening to a
moment of zen. Right here on seven ten woar the
voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzam's welcome
back to the right Brain segment, where we explore how science, soul,
and sound collide to shape the creative mind. Today, we're
unpacking something pretty extraordinary, the rhythm between the brain and

(38:49):
the heart. Studies from the Heart Math Institute and Hardvard
Medical School have shown that when our thoughts and emotions
fall out of sync, our heart rhythm becomes erratic, raising
stress and even the risk of arrhythmia. But when we
experience love, gratitude, or creative flow, those rhythms harmonized, improving focus, emotion,

(39:09):
and creativity all at once. Joining me today is an
incredible trio. Our co contributor, doctor Robert Milillo, internationally recognized
brain researcher and creator of the Malillo Method, here to
ground us in neuroscience behind creativity and emotional regulation and
joining us is also Ellis Malillo, singer, songwriter and co
host of the Right Brain podcast, bringing the artist's perspective

(39:32):
on balance and mental health. And our featured guest, Young WiLAN,
a conscious rapper and creator of Good Energy whose journey
through ADHD, mindfulness and heart rhythm challenges has become a
story of transformation, focus and higher vibration. Welcome to the show, Superstars.
I'm bag You're back baby, Okay, So I'm going to

(39:52):
start with you. You've said that after sleepless nights you sometimes
feel a tightness in your chest and once you rest,
that sensation fades. How do you interpret that mind body
feedback loop? Do you do you sense a direct connection
between your emotional state and your heart rhythm when that happens.

Speaker 15 (40:11):
I mean, we all know that when you don't sleep,
your brain doesn't have the ability to restore yourself and
do the things to perform at its best potential. So
you know, I you know when I do that, when
I'm up all night. You know, whether it's an event,
a business thing, a studio, thing. The next day, I

(40:31):
just feel like super anxious, super like you know what
I mean, that chest pressure.

Speaker 13 (40:37):
Anxiety maybe what it is because, like you.

Speaker 15 (40:42):
Mentioned, the brain altering the heart rate, and then the
heart rate altering the brain mindset.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
But there's definitely a connection. Research literally supports that when
we rest and we recenter, our heartbeat regains coherence and
our brain activity stabilizes. So that's living proof of that connection, right,
doctor Mililo, I mean weighing here anytime.

Speaker 14 (41:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (41:04):
What most people don't really realize, as you said, is
that communication between the brain and the heart. But they
also don't realize that the right and left brain actually
control the heart rhythms differently. There are two different pacemakers
on the heart. One is controlled by the right brain,
one is controlled by the left brain, and it all
comes down to the balance of what we call the
sympathetic fight or flight, or the parasympathetic rest and digest or.

Speaker 14 (41:28):
The vagus nerve.

Speaker 11 (41:30):
So it really you know, what we see is people
that have a big right brain might have over activity
and that might affect the right pace maker. So you
have the heart problem. Does your heart suddenly feel like
it takes off?

Speaker 14 (41:43):
Does it?

Speaker 11 (41:44):
Is it you get fast or does it or do
you have any rhythmia?

Speaker 14 (41:48):
What is the actual issue the rhythm?

Speaker 15 (41:52):
I guess the EKG was showing, you know, like a
Brugotta syndrome type of thing.

Speaker 13 (42:00):
I had never heard of that before. I'm like, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 15 (42:03):
And then I look it up and like, we don't
want to scare you, but you could basically just die at.

Speaker 13 (42:08):
Any moment, And I'm like, whoa, whoa, yes, slow down.

Speaker 11 (42:12):
That's more like an a rhythmia right which typically with
a left brain delay with really strong right brain, it
can actually affect the spacing of the rhythm. So you know,
with that, again, a lot of the whole point of
our podcast here is that, you know, we work with
a lot of artists like yourself that are really gifted
in the right brain and that you know, or you

(42:35):
have that talent that musical writing, singing, performing, but also
may have some deficits and that may also lead to
some mental health issues. So you know, that's a lot
of what Ellis and I talk about, and she's had
a lot of her own issues with that.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (42:51):
Yeah, when you're on stage, do you ever feel like
you're like heartbeat is kind of syncing up with the rhythm,
Like maybe you and the audience are kind of vibrating
on the same free would see, what's the energetic exchange for.

Speaker 13 (43:02):
You being on the same frequency with people.

Speaker 15 (43:06):
Got that percent of people that are just extroverted and
they're up there, they're tapping in with your energy, Like
those are the people that are aligned with your energy
at the time. That's that's the people I like to
kick out and you know, engage with because it just
it might inspire.

Speaker 13 (43:24):
Somebody else to be like, you know what, I want
to do what they do and I'm a.

Speaker 15 (43:29):
Dance too, and then you know, it's like therapy, I
guess for some people to go out of there like restricted.

Speaker 13 (43:40):
You know, some people are just reserved.

Speaker 15 (43:42):
So I try to you know, I can be that
way sometimes too, just being in my head. So whenever
I get a chance to be somebody to like help
somebody come out of their shield or something like that,
I just do.

Speaker 13 (43:56):
It when I'm on stage or something like that.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
Yeah, your studying. I remember when I first started out.

Speaker 17 (44:02):
I used to be like so scared of like if
I played a new venue of matching the energy of
the crowd, and then like a switch happened to me
where I was like, hell, I create energy for them,
and I'm gonna feel a certain way, and that's a
powerful feeling.

Speaker 13 (44:17):
You don't want to match the energy of a dead crowd.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Now, young, I have a question for you. So you've
been really open about living with ADHD and how it
affects every part of your life. And many creatives experience
that same WorldWind right ideas firing faster than focus can
actually catch them. So how have you learned to transform
that energy into creative power rather than letting it drain you?

Speaker 15 (44:41):
You know, I have certain hobbies that I implemented into
my life. Well, hobbies I've always had, but especially nowadays,
I get to do more of because you.

Speaker 13 (44:55):
Know, whether I have more money now or I have
more time, you.

Speaker 15 (44:59):
Know, like outdoor activities, fishing, shooting guns.

Speaker 13 (45:05):
You know, at the gun range. Also cooking. I love
to cook.

Speaker 15 (45:12):
But when I when I'm first learning a recipe, I'll
be it takes me three hours to you know, read
read through the you know recipes, and like I'm back
and forth. I'm like forgetting what I'm supposed to add.
But what's I learned? The recipe? Which a little flow state.

Speaker 11 (45:29):
You know, we like to look at all of this
and break it down into real like what is it,
what's actually happening? Like, so I like to go back
to the beginning. Obviously you're very creative. I'm really interested
in when you started writing or when you really started
performing and really coming into your creativity. But as a kid,
did you struggle in school at all?

Speaker 14 (45:50):
Did you?

Speaker 11 (45:50):
A lot of the artists, some of the best artists
we know, and again understand that the more talented you
are in an area, it leads to vulnerabilities, and any
any of the artists, like you know, ellis you struggle
with some reading and memorizing or doing math or you know,
basically word dyslexic. And there's a lot of them, but

(46:10):
that comes with that creativity that's often labeled as ADHD.

Speaker 14 (46:15):
It's really one type of ADHD. So do you feel
like you that that speaks to you.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (46:21):
Absolutely, Uh struggled with paying attention in class, and I
feel like it has something to do with the structure.

Speaker 11 (46:29):
Typical school is directed towards left brain learning. So people
that are really right brain creative, they struggling that. And
that's what you said, you know, like being outside learning
that way, and but you know, again, we want you
to just realize that that creativity, that gift that you
have also may have led to some of your learning challenges,
but those things can be changed.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Just so you know, Ellis, I know that you are
you very much are are this is this is exactly
your childhood if I'm not mistaken, right.

Speaker 17 (46:58):
Yeah, yeah, I was wondering in like those high energy
studio moments, how do you manage distruction.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Or over over simulation. Do you lean into.

Speaker 17 (47:09):
That creative chaos or have the system to channel it
into structural flow.

Speaker 15 (47:15):
I love the chaos of it, like just throwing out
little ideas, recording it different tracks. You know, it's just oh,
let's run it back, let's read record. It's oh's just chaos,
just crazy chaos. And you know, it's just me and
the engineer. I don't like to have a group of
people in my studio. Some people just like to talk

(47:37):
when we're in the studio. Like I didn't come here
to have conversations.

Speaker 13 (47:41):
I came to write music and records.

Speaker 14 (47:45):
So you know, you talked about how you go into
the studio.

Speaker 11 (47:47):
You don't like a lot of people around, and you know,
and I understand. But you know, a lot of the
other artists have told us that they also struggle with
a bit of social anxiety. They also have a fear
of being just right. It's kind of this back and forth.
You can't help but be creative, But the same area
of your brain that creates those songs in that music,

(48:09):
also creates the feeling of possible embarrassment or shame or
you know, overjudging yourself.

Speaker 14 (48:16):
So do you feel like that's.

Speaker 11 (48:18):
Something that you struggle with as well, Like a lot
of other artists that like kind of you judge yourself
really harshly, and sometimes you fear other people judging you.

Speaker 14 (48:27):
At the same time you want them to love you.

Speaker 15 (48:29):
And I think it has to do with just trying
to be a personal value of trying to be like
a trying to maintain a image of yourself or once
you you know, being a like a popular person.

Speaker 13 (48:47):
You know, like you you have to show up a
certain way or you have.

Speaker 15 (48:51):
To you know, oh, you got to hit song. Now
everything else has to be hits.

Speaker 11 (48:55):
It's a lot of pressure and you you're not opposed
to show weakness and you have to jeck strength. But
at the same time that creativity, you know, makes you
sometimes be your own worst enemy, and it's hard to
manage that.

Speaker 14 (49:09):
But again, those are things that can actually be changed
with the right type of things.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
So what an amazing, enlightening and soul centered exchange. I
love this conversation Ellis and doctor Mililo. They're always on
the money when it comes to the right brain and
I love having these conversations. Thank you so much, friends
for joining us. It was incredible to have you all
here on one panel.

Speaker 14 (49:31):
My pleasure.

Speaker 9 (49:33):
Yeah you too.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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