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ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host,
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She's a mother of two, a wife, and a.
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Global recognized fitness coach with over fifteen years of experience,
having spoken in over thirty countries and featured in magazines worldwide.
Her expertise truly extends far beyond her title as a
former Olympia champion. Her unique approach to fitness, health and
mindset has made her a sought after speaker and coach.
With a support of a multidisciplinary team that includes a
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registered dietitian and license counselor, Natalia has helped over five
thousand high achieving women transform their fitness journeys and reclaim
their confidence.
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Today, she works with busy working women.
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Over thirty five, guiding them through the challenges of balancing health,
career and family By implementing strategies that.
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Lead to success that really last.
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She's going to join me to share her tips for
busy moms on building body of your dreams while balancing
work and family, and on approaching health and wellness with
a positive mindset. Welcoming down to the show is the
amazing Natalia. Welcome superstar.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited
to be here.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Wow. What an incredible biography you have.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Wow, you are truly truly a trailblazer in your field,
a powerhouse, and your journey is nothing short of inspirational.
From earning the title of Miss Olimpia back in twenty
twelve and then welcoming two beautiful children into the world
and of course learning to balance at all, we know
how tough that could be. As moms now, I know
this shift in life wasn't easy and came with its
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own set of challenges. Could you walk us through how
you had to reevaluate your fitness routine, your time, and
really your outlook in this period of life.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Absolutely so. Transitioning from competing and my body basically being
my twelve work, then becoming pregnant, I realized that something
had to change. Then my kids are actually fourteen months apart,
I felt pregnant with my daughter when my son was
four and a half months old. God, so I was like, yeah,
I still have a bit of PTSD from that. Then
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I had to reevaluate and you know, look at my
priorities and be like, okay, so what is it that
I can do with the time that I had. And
it wasn't something that just happened. There required a lot
of you know, self evaluation and organizing my time and
prioritizing the things that mattered at that specific point in
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life and take it from there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Wow, I truly you know, your philosophy is all about
restructuring your life to better accommodate these you know, new
roles if you will, and respondibilities instead of just doing
the same thing over and over again. And I really
appreciate how transparent you are about learning how to balance
your fitness and your marriage and your business and your
motherhood because you're certainly not alone. In fact, when you
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look at the data, sixty four percent of full time
working moms only managed to set aside one hour for
themselves daily, just one and that's you know, that's not
enough time to dedicate to yourself and it's so hard
to maintain peak physical and mental health and form.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
With everything else going on.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So, as someone who has gone through this yourself and
founded an academy to help women master this, what are
some specific strategies you recommend for us busy moms to
really build the body of our dreams without sacrificing our
families and our work.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I think that the first thing that we need to
look at is objectively look at your schedule and understand
that obviously life is different. And I find that for
a lot of women, they try to keep on implementing
the same things that work for them. Whenever their only
responsibility was to, you know, have clean underwear and make
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it to work and that's it. And then now it's
a different season of life. You know, you have to
keep up with the house, you have a full time career,
you have a spouse, you have kids, you have all
the activities that the kids come with, and understanding that
their strategy is going to have to be different. And
what I see a lot of times is people trying
to do what they perceived as you worked before now
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and then they ended up end up spreading themselves too thin,
end up frustrated without results, and then they just throw
their hands up in the air and it's like, oh,
maybe I am the problem, And what if instead of
looking at I am the problem, try to find a
strategy to work with what we have. And what I
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mean by that is like the time that you have,
the availability that you have, obviously understanding that there are
some boundaries they are going to need to set, but
something it's always going to be better than nothing. Because
what I see a lot of times is women later
in life, whenever they reach out for help, that they
find themselves in a place that they never thought that
they were going to be. So it's much better to
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be proactive and work with what you have, even if
it is just to maintain then to be seeking that
perfection that is ultimately not going to work and is
going to lead to frustration.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That's great advice. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I know you've also been very transparent online about how
having your daughter changed your outlook on your body and fitness,
So let's shift to that. There's a fine line when
it comes to working out and perfecting eating habits in
a healthy manner versus an unhealthy manner, and it becomes
even more important to highlight this when it's in the
spotlight in front of impressionable children.
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So, as a.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Fitness professional and a mother to a daughter, in a
world so rampant with body image issues, especially for young girls,
how do you approach fitness and encourage self love rather
than obsessive appearance?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Focus outlook, knowing she is watching.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Oh, this is such a beautiful question. And this is
a topic that I'm very passionate about for a number
of reasons, one being that I am the child like
my mom. I'm Brazilian. My mom is your typical Latina mom.
I think that Latino's listening are going to understand is
you're you're never like good enough. You're either too overweight
or you're too skinny. So there is never you never win.
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And that was the narrative that I grew up with.
I was doing the cabbage soup diet with my mom
when I was like nine ten, and you was and
I was a very slim child, and there's it's always
like comments about about your body, and it's always it's
always the praise that you receive is always around how
you look in your outside appearance. And now, as a
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fitness professional, as I have a lot of conversations with women,
and we really get into the bottom of it, because
I think that if you're not understanding the emotional side
and the mindset piece of the change is going to
be very hard to create long term change. And I
see with the ladies that I work with now that
a lot of their disorted eating behaviors and disorted patterns
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around physical appearance come from something that happened whenever they
were children. So I'm like, oh, it wasn't just me.
So it is something that I'm very cognizant with my
daughter especially. You know, the language that I use around food.
We don't talk about food as being good or bad
is just food because anything that you have too much
of is going to even water can be too bad
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if you have too much of. So always that language.
We avoid making comments about their bodies, you know, oh,
you you're too skinny or you're too fat, Like, we
don't talk about that. We don't restrict our kids on
food different types of food, because I think that that
can lead to disorted eating behavior patterns. And I'm very
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cognizant about how I behave because one thing that I
realize is that my generation, you know, my mom would
talk about her body in and I think a lot
of times now the generation now it's like, oh, I
don't talk about my body, so I'm not, you know,
leading giving a bad example to my daughter. But your
children are watching. So even if you don't speak, but
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you're acting in a manner that you're hiding yourself, you're
hiding yourself in pictures, you're not putting a swimming suit.
Your kids are going to catch up. So I try
to embody the person in the confidence that I want
my daughter to have.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sure, now we've covered fitness, let's shift to eating habits
right because they go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
We're talking about this right now.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So as part of your Powerhouse Academy team that includes
a registered dietitian, you are knowledgeable on the subject yourself,
and we know that beyond just exercise, eating a healthy,
well balanced.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Diet is crucial for overall health.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Once again, this is easier said than done, and it
can become especially challenging when leading a busy life, juggling
long work hours and kids. I'd love to hear your
thoughts on diet culture and then what are some practical
tips or strategies that you recommend for busy individuals who
want to eat well but just don't have much time
to cook or plant meals.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
People try to overcomplicate things everything. It's an obsession with
over complication. There is actually a name for it that's
a complexity bias, and which is the belief that in
order to solve a problem, you need to find the
most complicated way of solving it. And what I have
come to realize is that especially whenever we're talking about
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busy women like you don't have time, like people are, oh,
I'm going to carb cycle and I'm going to do X,
Y and Z, and it's all these very complicated strategies.
When the core let's say, an energy balance maintained, like
keeping the right amount of food that you have to eat,
it's completely off, like derailed. It doesn't matter if you're
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carb cycling or doing whatever it is. If you're consuming
too many calories, you are going to gain weight. That
is just how it works, this simple math and simple physics. Actually,
so the first thing that we do when we start
working with somebody is understand your lifestyle, you know, because
if I'm dealing with, for example, an attorney who has
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a very you know, busy life, it's in court and
things like that. I cannot look at that person and
be like, you know what, you have to have a
meal every three hours because that is what's going to
be optimal. She might be able to do that for
a certain period of time, but at some point she's
going to crack because it's not conducive with the life
that she has. So the first thing is understanding your
lifestyle and objective look objectively, look at it and see
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what are the things that I can maintain and consistently
show up for and do that way I can be
successful in the long run. You know, it's easy to
cut out carbs and you know, live off lettuce and
ice cubes for a few weeks, but what happens after that?
And I think that that's the part that a lot
of people are missing. So in the context, even what
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type of food going to somebody for example, that is
eating fast food five six days a week and be like,
you're never going to have fast food ever again, it
is such a big gap that it wouldn't make sense.
So what about, Hey, you have fast food five days
a week. How about we reduce that two three and
the other two meals that you normally would eat from
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fast food. You have a homemade meal, and you're keeping
the barrier of entry very close and easy to stay
compliant with. And once they start seeing the results, they're
going to be a lot more inclined to maybe reduce
another day of fast food. So it's really understanding what
people's priorities are and meeting them where they're at. Because
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people they have this obsession I'm going to cut out carbs, right,
but then what happens whenever you have a birthday party
with your kids? Like you see, like it really is
about understanding people's lives and keeping it simple.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think most people will overcomplicate the situation, overthink things.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
We are our own worst enemy, and you.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Know, it's truly just taking a step back and looking
at it from proper perspective. The easiest path forward is
the one we should always be taking. Now, with proper
eating and fitness habits, we also have to touch on
proper hydration. So hydration is essential for everyone, but essentially
those who lead active lifestyles to aid in both performance
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injury prevention and most important, recovery. Now, one of my
favorite hydration hacks beyond just water is coconut water.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You guys all know this.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's a natural hydrator with a great source of essential
antioxidants and electrolytes. It supports herd health, manages cholesterol levels,
lowers blood sugar levels. I mean, the list of health
benefits goes on and on. Natalia, I know you're a pro.
What are your top tips for maintaining proper hydration and
are there any specific hydration strategies or even drinks you
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recommend for people with intense workout routines.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I always have a big bottle water next to me.
I find that that's why one of the reasons why
so many people struggle to keep up with their hydration
is because they don't have it accessible. So just the
thought of going getting and stuff like that, and is
again another thing about simplicity. You're you know, you're not
going to go from drinking almost no water to drinking
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a gallon water overnight. So how about we increase from
I don't know, maybe you're having a small bottle of
water to a small bottle and a half a small
bottle and a half. So it really is about incrementing,
incrementally increasing it to a point where you are at
the optimum level. I'm from Brazil. In Brazil, I grew
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up having coconut water, which is very interesting. That that's
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Speaker 4 (17:52):
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Speaker 6 (17:54):
Sure, let's do it. And I can call myself a
coconut connoisseur because being from Brazil, we have it all
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Speaker 3 (18:02):
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Speaker 6 (18:06):
Oh my god, it's nice. Oh my goodness, it is
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Right.
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Like you could use it.
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Speaker 6 (18:26):
D I like where your head's at.
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Speaker 4 (18:36):
Though. Now, okay, we're gonna move on.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
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Natalia's Seal of approval for Once upon a coconut. If
you could go back to the very beginning of your
fitness journey, what advice would you give to your younger self.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Oh, stop stop looking for the quick solution. It took
me a very long time in you know, growing up
in a household wear diet culture and you know, always
looking for the next diet. My mom to this day
she calls me like, that's not what I do for
a living, telling me about the next diet that she's doing.
I'm like, ma'am, that's my job. I've been doing that
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for fifteen years. So I not not constantly be chasing
the next diet with a beautiful name, because just because
it works now, it doesn't mean that it's going to
work long term. And whenever we're talking about long term success,
we need to find a strategy that fits our lives
in the long run.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Definitely have to put in the work. Yes, no fad diets.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
While we are at the end of our date, my friend,
thank you so much for joining me. It's been an
absolute pleasure having you on today.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Thanks for having me.
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York Welcome back, Tri State Area. You're listening to a
Moment of Zen right here on seven ten WR, the
voice of New york iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zen Sam's
up in just a few minutes in our Going Deep
segment in our Expert on the Microphone series. Today, we're
pulling back the curtains on a topic that's rarely discussed
and lee yet affects so many perimenopause, menopause, and women's
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sexual health and wellness. It's no secret that society doesn't
make it easy for women to embrace or even talk
about these natural transitions. But today we're tackling this head on,
busting myths and discussing solutions that are out there for
women to feel their best at any age. Joining us,
we have three exceptional women with insights that are bound
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to change the way we view women's health. First, doctor
Karen Tang, a gynecologist and social media force who's making
reproductive health accessible and stigma free for millions of women worldwide,
and she's the author of It's Not Hysteria. We have
doctor Tiffany Moon, an anesthesiologist and author of the soon
to be released book Joy Prescriptions, Empowering Women to achieve
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Holistic Wellness. And Finally, lanakur Ceo and founder of Co
two Lift, whose innovative CO two Lift V treatment offers
a non hormonal option for vaginal health. Let's jump in,
get candid and explore how these incredible women are reshaping
the conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Welcome to the show, Superstars.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Thank you, Hi everyone, it's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Okay, doctor Tang, we're going to start with you. So,
you've been a leading voice on social media for demystifying
reproductive health and addressing the myths around menopause. What's the
most persistent misconception you see regarding perimenopause and menopause and
how do you work to dismantle it through your platforms.
So probably the most common thing is that you just
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have to deal with it. This is a natural part
of life. Women have just kind of tolerated this forever.
That's absolutely not true.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
You wouldn't say that about any other aspect of health,
you know, rectile dysfunction. And all of these women, now
Gen X and millennials are coming forward and sharing their
stories about how menopause has really affected their lives. And
this is a medical condition that we can actually help with.
We can both treat symptoms you be having, we can
help encourage people in terms of lifestyle modifications to live
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their best life in midlife.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So you know, you don't have to deal with it.
There are things we can help you with to take
control of your life.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
It's incredible to see how social media is really transforming
health education, right, especially in breaking down these deeply ingrained myths.
And you're right, the cultural perception around menopause is so outdated,
and having a trusted information for you know, having a
trusted information source like yourself or from professionals like you,
really empowers women to understand their bodies better. So thank
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you for everything that you're doing. Now I'm going to
pivot to you, Lana. Lana co two lift V rejuvenation
treatment provides a non hormonal option for women seeking to
address vaginal health concerns. What drove you to develop this
particular product and what are some of the common needs
or issues per se it addresses for women in perimenopause
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or menopause.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
When I was in my mid forties or late forties,
now I'm in my fifties, but I started experiencing just
changes in how I felt in sexual intercourse, and I
had this very uncomfortable conversation with my gynecologist. I didn't
have a gynocologist like doctor Tang, but where it was
uncomfortable for her, not me just expressing to her what
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was feeling, and she just she kind of minimized it.
But anyway, we eventually got into the education, and what
I understood is that as we get older, you know,
blood flow slows down, so sensitivity decreases, and eventually you
can get drier and leads to painful sex. So I
was willing to look what are the options. And we
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already had a product called SO two left that actually
helped with skin regeneration, blood flow. We had just completed
a clinical study with diabetic ulcers where we could actually
close a non healing diabetic ulcer with this gel within
eight days. And so I went to one of my
medical directors and asked, if this is working with circulation,
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because diabetics have issues with circulation on their extremities, how
would it help down there? So he is a gynecologist,
and we said, let's start a double line clinical study
which eventually to a larger one which addresses dryness. It
addresses blood flow. So that's why women.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It is stemmed from your own personal need and urgency
to address issues that you were having personally, and I
feel like it's so refreshing to see a non hormonal
option for women who may be hesitant about traditional hormone treatments.
I certainly am, and what you're offering brings us this
new dimension of choice and really empowerment. So it's truly
redefining what's possible for women's health now, Doctor Moon. In
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your upcoming book, Joy Prescriptions, I haven't read it, but
I'm really excited to read it, you.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Explore holistic wellness.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
So how do you see mental well being connecting with
the physical challenges women face during menopause and what strategies
do you recommend from maintaining balance during this time.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, I mean menopause is a physical and mental construct,
and you have to align the two. There's a lot
of physical symptoms that we deal with, like the hot
flashes and the dryness, and then a lot of mental
issues like all of a sudden feeling more irritable than usual,
or having mood swings.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Then you don't know why you're bursting into tears.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
At any given moment, and so it's really important to
align the physical and the mental. So in my book,
Joy Prescriptions, it's really teaching everyone to have a holistic
approach to their physical and mental well being, so practicing gratitude,
making sure that there's laughter in their life and something joyful,
because we all live in so much toxicity and you
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turn on the news and it's all just bad, bad, bad,
and you have to remind people to focus on the
good in their lives and not so much on the bad.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
It's so funny because for the first time in my life,
I'm having anxiety attacks now that I'm you know, at
that age where perimenopause is truly becoming realistic, and I
have a nine year old daughter, and you're right, I
have to And Lana said this to me not long ago.
Just breathe deeplys In, just practice deep breathing and mindfulness,
and it's true. I mean, we all have to start
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grounding ourselves. So I can't wait for this book. And
I love that you're shedding light on the mental health
component for so many women. It's not just physical symptoms.
You're one hundred percent correct, it's also an emotional shift.
And your insights in this book are probably going to
emphasize the need to treat menopause as a holistic experience,
like you said, not just a checklist of symptoms. Now,
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doctor Tang, the gap in medical education around menopause is
often cited as a barrier to effective care. So how
does this lack of training impact women seeking support? And
what advice would you give to women who feel dismissed
by their providers?
Speaker 8 (27:43):
You know, so it's sort of the root of a
lot of issues with women's health. You know, there's not
enough research funding education, and so they kind of don't
get treated as formally as you know, diabetes, heart disease, cancers,
there's great algorithms, there's lots and lots of research behind them.
So women's health gets turned into a lot of times
like well just you know, like just kind of deal
with it, or like you know, maybe try this one thing,
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and then there's not a whole lot of other kind
of like a rich, diverse way, you know, like ways
that we offer women that you can kind of help.
And then you know, doctors may not necessarily be experts
in management of this, and so sometimes people may see
their doctor and feel really dismissed. And so we tell
people obviously, you know, if you're you're senior doctor, they're
not really offering you options. You know, the first thing
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is to say, you know, what are my options? Can
you explain them to me. If that doctor can't, then
look for someone who can. So look for someone who
specializes in it. And just to say that there are
so many different options. You know, we haven't touched on hormones,
but you know, like hormone placement therapy has sort of
had a revolution in that we've kind of come out
of this phase of years where people were very scared
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of hormones. Now we have a much more nuanced understanding.
So you know, it helps with so many things. Vaginal
estrogen has very minimal risk, you know, HRT and testosterone,
like there are all these differ and things that can
really really help with these symptoms.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
But it's not just that.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
Just like we talked about lifestyle, you know, modifications, exercise,
stress management, mindfulness, all of these things should be part
of the discussion, you know, with your.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Doctor as well.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I love that you just said the hormone options are
not threatening anymore because in my generation, you know, you
have your mom and your ground. They're saying you don't
need all that extra stuff. You don't need all that
extra stuff, And I think that that breaking down those stigmas,
demystifying really those stigmas is at the heart of it all,
and it's really eye opening to hear how systemic these
gaps are, right, doctor Tang, I mean knowing that even
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medical professionals aren't adequately trained on menopause, that truly underscores
the importance of women advocating for themselves. And I think
the support you're providing on social media this is where
I found you, is such a powerful resource in that fight.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
So let's keep it going.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Actually, Lana, many women are unaware that their symptoms can
be alleviated with minimal hormonal and prevention or without hormones
per se, especially in the perimenopause, the earlier stages.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
So how do you help.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Women understand the benefits from your perspective of non hormonal treatments,
like the product.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
That you have and what results do they typically experience?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Okay, well, first, I'm a big advocate of hormonal therapy
if it's something that you're comfortable with, if your medical
providers are working with you on that. I've been on
biodetical hormones from the time I was fotified. Some a
big advocate of it. However, there's some women that need
options or feel that hormone based options are not necessarily
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the way they want to go. So the product like
the COOTWOLIPTV is going to help women in that way
because it's going to help increase or improve that tissue
health so that they don't have the dryness that is
typical for women as they get into menopause. They also
will feel the cootwo lift V what is doing by
infusing oxygen or COO two gas into the tissue. It's
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helping that tissue to be filled with oxygen, increasing the
CAPITALAI is getting rid of waste. So yes, with some
of some of the benefits that women experience are you know,
lubrication sensitivity, so they feel good in below, they feel confident,
especially where sexual relations are concerned. They can enjoy it,
especially at the time of our lives when we are
confident in so many other areas, but this part of
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our life we're on can be on the decline if
we don't do something to address it.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Interesting I read in one of your research reports that
this product also aids and increases healing of liking sclerosis,
which is so hard to treat. So you know, definitely
that hydration and that proprietary carbon dioxide therapy, neoangiogenesis, all
of that truly makes a big difference. So you're really
changing the landscape for so many women. When we give
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women more choices, especially safe and effective ones, it opens
the door to greater sense of control and agency over
their own health. And I'm a huge advocate for that,
So thank you, Lanna doctor Moon. As a physician and entrepreneur,
you've created spaces like the lead Her Summits to empower women.
What conversations around menopause and women's health are you seeing
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emerge among female professionals and how are these discussions changing perceptions?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Yeah, I am so pleased. This is one of the
positive aspects of social media. But over the last year
or two there's been a proliferation of people talking about
menopause and perimenopause, and I see it come through my
social media. We have prominent experts like doctor Karen Tang,
doctor Jessica Shepherd wrote a book called Generation m. We
have doctor Marie have Claire, and she is just such
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a wealth of information and out there like dispelling myths
and just talking about it. And the first thing is
that we have to congratulate ourselves for even talking about it,
because like five ten years ago, when you know my
mom's generation, menopause is like hush, hush, something you don't
talk about, something you just deal with, and it's like, Okay,
the average age of menopause in this country is like
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fifty to fifty one and the average life expectancy is
like eighty. So you're telling me that a woman expects
to spend approximately thirty years of her life in this
condition and we're just not supposed to talk about it,
Like that's insanity to me. So kudos for everyone out
there even talking about it and talking to women about
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scientific principles that are evidence based on how to treat
this stage of their life.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Amen, you said it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You summed it up right there, like that's the promotional
sound bite.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
And I just want to say, as you were saying
those names, I literally have all of these books, like
in my office listening, I have the New Menopause Generation
M and then my book It's Not Hysteria, So we
literally I have my menopause pile of books in my
office here.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So it's so encouraging to hear that these conversations are
happening more openly now, especially in professional spaces. So you're
all creating this ripple effect where women can share experiences
and support each other, all while normalizing these trens posicians.
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Speaker 4 (34:46):
I'm your host, Zen.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Sam's up next in the Going Deep segment in our
expert on the Microphone series. Today, we're pulling back the
curtains on a topic that's rarely discussed openly yet affect
so many perimenopause, menopause, and women's sexual health and wellness.
Doctor Moon, you wear many hats as a doctor, entrepreneur,
and mom. How is your own experience with hormonal changes
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or maybe the anticipation of perimenopause and menopause impacted the
way you approach wellness, especially as you counsel other women
facing similar challenges.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Are there any personal.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Insights that have shaped your outlook on the stage of life?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah, I mean in my thirties, like wellness was sort
of just like frou frou woo woo, Like I'm well,
you know, I hardly.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Ever get sick.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I exercise, I eat well eighty percent of the time.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
It's not this thing.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
But in your forties is I think the hormones begin
to fluctuate and I'm like, it's hot, and here's anyone
else hot? Or like at night my husband is like
shivering under the covers and he's like, aren't you cold,
and I'm like, no, it's hot, Like what's going on?
And just feeling that sense of like irritability. I think
in your forties you have a different approach to wellness.
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It's more of a proactive what do I need to learn,
how do I get ahead of this?
Speaker 10 (35:59):
What are the different things that I can do?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Rather than when you're in your thirties and you just
like you're well in your thirties generally speaking, and so
I think we take much more of a proactive approach.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Now you are so spot on.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You reiterated everything that I've said about how I'm feeling.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
So I'm glad that there's more of me out there now.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Education is such a powerful tool, and giving women a
clear and accessible, you know, accessible information is I think
at the heart of it all now.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Doctor Tang.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
On social media, you tackle sensitive topics like pelvic health,
which can often be dismissed.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Or even like straight out downplayed.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So how do you approach educating women about their pelvic
and vaginal health as they age and why is this
important to you?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:45):
So, I mean the first thing is just kind of
like taking away the shame and stigma. I mean, one
limitation on social media is like you literally can't even
say the word vagina or sex on some of the
platforms like TikTok without them censoring it. So we have
to try and be you know, like honest. This is
just like any other aspect of health. You should be
able to say the word vagina, You should be able
to talk about sexual health needs in a straightforward way.
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So I try and just kind of like have that
perspective so it's not a secret, it's not shameful. We're
all going through this, and just like you know, doctor
Moon said, you know, half of the population is going
through these things at some point in their life and
just normalizing it so also debunking a lot of the myths.
So we talked about hormones. I wanted to kind of
quickly go over that too, because you know, I'm in
my mid forties. When I started my medical training, it
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was right when something called the Women's Health Initiative came
up that made everyone really scared about hormones. It talked
about risks of breast cancer and heart disease, which now
we know in women who are under age sixty to
sixty five or less than ten years from you know,
the age that they've gone through menopause, the risk of
those things is much much lower than was said in
those studies because as you get older, your risk of
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heart disease and breast cancer goes higher. So obviously when
you're younger, those risks aren't as bad. So a lot
of people are kind of like you know, for many years,
the medical profession I kind of like lumped all hormones,
you know, all women into this big pile, and then
everyone got very scared. So now we have a much
more nuanced approach where if you're younger, you have low
risk of heart disease, you know, like that those risks
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are you know, relatively low. We have to talk about
a balanced approach, but you know, to not be quite
so scared of it. And then vaginal estrogen again just
to kind of mention, is very different. It has basically
almost no absorption into the body, so you know, can
be really helpful for some of the things we're talking
about with you know, pain with sex, lubrication, sensitivity, blood
flow as well, and including in a lot of breast
(38:30):
cancer patients can safely take vagel estrogen. So again there's
sort of this perspective that like all hormones had all
of these risks and it is much much one more nuanced,
So just you know, on social media kind of like
taking some of the things that people may be afraid of,
may have heard that kind of scared them, and try
to actually like say, you know, what are the actual statistics,
what's the actual data, Like, you know, don't just sort
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of a lot of times in social media get like
there's kind of like the sound bites like this is bad,
No one should do it. Like trying to kind of
dial it back and use kind of like the doctor
lens and also the woman's lens because I'm right in
that age group as well. I'm going through a lot
of these things too, and I know people have the
same fears, so trying to kind of take it from
that human perspective as well, so kind of balancing the
science and the humanity.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, that's great advice.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
And that again, that clear and accessible information, whether it's
on pelvic health or you know, surrounding menopause or pairing
menopause as we age, helps break down the discomfort around
these discussions and really empowers us to ask the right
questions and really seek the proper care.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Now I'm going to stick with you again, doctor Tang,
because this is your last question.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
So as someone who you mentioned that you have experienced
some of these symptoms, You actively educate, you break down stigmas.
How has your personal journey and perspective on menopause influence
the way you connect with your patients or audience. Are
there is there anything specific experience wise that has really
shaped the way you approach your discussions.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Yeah, just understanding kind of like it involves your whole life.
So you know, for instance, a lot of things that
we are talking about a lot now with the changes
of perimenopause, things like loss of muscle, weight gain, sleep problems,
brain fog. You know, I've had like a little bit
of all of these things, and then you know, to
to realize that it's everything is interconnected. So you know,
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the sleep issue, if you're sleeping poorly, you're going to
have more moodiness, You're going to have lower libido, You're
going to have you know, like brain fog issues. So
kind of realizing that like almost like every aspect of
your life is going to get touched by this thing,
so you know, your ability to interact with your.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Partner, your kids, your work.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
In addition to kind of like the physical symptoms like
the hot flashes and the you know, bagial dryness, and things,
so taking more of kind of like you know, we've
talked about it several times, a holistic approach, that it's
not just about giving a prescription. It's not just about
giving a prescription for a mammogram. It's about asking about exercise, wellness, relationships, stress, sleep, mood,
all of it. And so you know, knowing that it
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is much more complicated, and that you know, partnering with
the patient then in all of these aspects so that
you can kind of like get it all back under control.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's crazy to me how you make so much sense
to me.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I had gone to one of my providers and a
couple of years ago, late thirties, and I was like, look,
i'm sweating at night, or this isn't making sense to me,
or there's brain fogs. You know, they ran your regular
panel of hormonal tests and they're like, no, no, you're fine.
Everything is within check, and they're very dismissive, like this
this case, you're too young.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
And I realized that that wasn't the case. So thank
you for.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Advocating and really broadening the roadmap for women to say, hey,
this is something that I could be experiencing even though
I don't fit within the norm of your textbooks that
are clearly outdated.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
Oh a quick point, just you made a very important
point about the checking and the hormones. So typically if
someone is in kind of a quote unquote normal perimenopause
a range like forty five and above, checking the hormones
doesn't actually particularly help because just like you said, it
could be completely normal, but you can feel terrible, Like
you can feel like every symptom and have rock solid
quote unquote normal hormones. On the flip side, you could
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have you know, menopause level hormones, low estrogen, etcetera.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
And feel great.
Speaker 8 (42:13):
So we typically go and treat patients based on how
they feel, not based on the number. So that's very
important because sometimes people very very disappointed either when they
see their numbers are like this doesn't make sense, I
feel terrible, or on the flip side, if a doctor
tells them, well, your numbers look good, so you can't
be in perimenopause or menopause. So we treat people based
on how they feel, not on the number. The exception
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is to someone's really young, so if they're in their
early forties or thirties and we don't exactly know what's
going on. It could be their thiroid, it could be pcos.
We will check hormones in those cases just to see
what's happening. But that's a very important point because sometimes
people get brace thrown off about the checking hormone labs question.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
That's great, great advice. Thank you for that. Lana.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
You're last on the list here for women who are
hesitant to discuss their in their intimate health openly. So
how do you see your role as a prominent founder
in the female wellness industry? How does your role help
create a safer space for these conversations and being a
trusted option.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
Yeah, I think that intimacy and it is such an
important part of our lives. It's a part of it's
a part of connecting to ourselves and then in a relationship.
It's important and one of the aspects of menopause. And
both doctors covered so many different aspects. The one that
I particularly focus on is the sexual health aspect, just
simply because the product addresses it, which I think needs
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to be talked on more. In fact, somebody mentioned it.
I was on a panel just it was a thing
with Jessica Shepherd, and I remember the interviewer said, we couldn't.
We were in Dallas on Texas today in Texas and
they said you couldn't use the word vagina. Uh On,
we had to how would we how would we describe
what we're talking about? It was in Breast Cancer Awareness
Month October and we're talking about the product because she
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uses it for her patients who don't want horror hormonal options.
But she said, they said, use the word pelvic health.
So we've definitely changed in that direction because I know
it's just in the space of the last three years,
more and more people are comfortable using a very vagina
a normal word, is a normal part of life. If
we don't have vaginas, we didn't have sex, we all
wouldn't be here. But I just think I think by
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having the conversation, it normalizes it by just saying it
in a way, treating it in a sacred way, so
we're not we're not making it frivolous to talk about,
but we're we're teaching our children, our daughters, our nieces
are our younger women that this is a natural part
of life. We have to treat it in a very
sacred way. And aging affects. Uh that area of our lives.
(44:43):
So start addressing it. Just like we talk about their period,
we talk about when they're getting pregnant. This is something
that happens. Let's have these conversations and let's start addressing
issues in connection with our volva vagina.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I love it, Thank you well. Listen. Normalizing these discussions
is key. You said it. So your product seems to
do more than just offer treatment.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
It gives women the freedom to prioritize their intimate health
without feeling shame or discomfort, which is a huge step forward.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Now I'm gonna stick with you.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
One last question, Landa, So, developing the CO two lift
vulva rejuvenation treatment must have brought you close to the
experiences of women navigating perimenopause and menopause. Have any personal
experiences or moments in your own life journey or in
a patient's journey really stood out?
Speaker 7 (45:31):
Oh yeah, I have so many just because of these conversations.
So many women talk about young women who are having issues,
you think in their twenties. But I think one stands
out to me in particular is she now works with us,
but she was thrown into menopause because she had breast cancer.
She had the treatment that she did well, she had
(45:52):
other issues, But basically what happened is she started experiencing
bleeding and sex She was newly married, and then she
went to her gynecologists and said, what can I do.
You know, I've gone through I'm cancer free, but now
my sex life is suffering. And then you know, her
doctor referred her to this which helped her and it
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has changed her life. But when you hear her experiences
with her husband and how it has drawn her clothes
and how she feels about being a breast cancer survivor
just the empowering message that she can relate to other women,
it just makes me feel good to do what I
do and to be able to help women in this way.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
You are all helping women in so many ways in
your own way, and this is why I love it.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
We are officially at the end of our date, my friends,
but I wanted to thank you so much. You are
a brilliant panel. Thank you for joining me today. Thank
you so much for having us. It was doctor Karen Tang,
Doctor Tiffany Moon, and Lana Kerr. They've all brought such
valuable insights and proven that menopause, perimenopause and women's health
don't have to be shrouded in stigma. Instead, they can
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be approached with knowledge, choice and empowerment for ever everyone
tuning in, remember you have options, you have the power
to ask questions, and it's okay to prioritize yourself. Here's
some more open conversations and healthier futures. Thank you for
joining us. Until next time, let's keep challenging the norms
and celebrating women's health. You're listening to a Moment of
Zen right here on seven to ten WR the voice
(47:18):
of nerk iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
That was our going Deep segment expert on the microphone.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Definitely check out Tiffany Moon at TIFFANYMOONMD dot com and
check her out on the Gram at Tiffany MOONMD, Karen
Tang MD dot com and on the Gram at Karen
Tang MD, and land Occur at the Land Occur on Instagram,
and you could head to COO two lift dot com.
We'll be right back after this. A Moment of Zen
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