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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Col Amigos and welcome to the at too Houston's Amigos podcast,
a podcast for young professionals looking to get a start
in their early careers. My name is Jacob d'antone and
I am the current audio chair and producer of this
fine program. And joining me today is Delaney and what's
your positions?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay, So I am social chair for AT two Houston.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Okay, sure, thank you. And today we have Caitlin MacIntyre
in the studio, another at TO Houston board member who
was our membership chair and she's also the account coordinator
at Lopez Negrete Communications.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey Kaitlyn, Hi, y'all, How y'all doing good? How are
you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're very excited to have you in the studio here.
It's been a long time coming. I've been trying to
schedule this for a while.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And just literally and it just hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, you know, life happens. Things get in this way.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Months start to feel like weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, Like it's just like, oh yeah, we're scheduling you
like two months ahead, but then it feels like weeks
because it comes up so quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, so yeah, it's crazy, but all right, kayln.
We always like to kind of start off these episodes
with the ADD two members with pretty much the simple
question of how did you get involved with that too?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah? So I got involved in AD two.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I knew about it in college and I never really
went to the meetings. I was just kind of focused
on school stuff. And then I moved to Houston, and
I'm not from Houston. I've never really been to Houston
much before I moved here, and I was like, Okay,
I need to get involved. I need to do something
to where I can get a job, I can meet people,
do anything, right.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And I managed to find and what was it? It was
the trivia night I try too.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, and so I was like, you know, I'm going
to go. I'm going to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Typically I don't do stuff like that because I get
really anxious about meeting people.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So I went by myself. I was very proud of that,
and yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I ended up just meeting people and it was really
good experience.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow. Great. Was that was that in Houston or was that?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
It was the one in Houston. So I had moved
like the week before, okay, and then I was like, Okay,
they're having an event I'm gonna go right.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
It does take a lot to come out by yourself,
because I hate going anywhere by myself.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm saying, where are you from?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm from San Antonio. So I went to the school
in Texas State, and so I moved forty five minutes
up the road from where I grew up my whole life,
and then I moved three and a half hours away
to Houston, the furthest I've ever been. Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm moving to San Antonio in October at the
end of October.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Any places I got you.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I'll definitely hit you out.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Everyone I've talked to about San Antonio they were like,
San Antonio is a great, great city city. They're like,
you're gonna have a lot of fun. Great, good, great.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So you studied a tech to state, like you said,
could you tell us a little bit about your experiences there?
You know, were you the sort of like party girl
or were you just kind of more of like, you know,
I'll just go to schools hang out with my friends.
Because you were just forty five minutes away, which is
really nice. I can imagine like you saw your friends
and then was there anything you learned that really stuck
(03:21):
to you today as you get out of college, you know,
and start working.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So I went to Texas State and I wasn't really
the party kind of person. I ended up going and
really focused on studies, not really doing much. I didn't
make many friends until probably my sophomore year, which is
my second year, just because I was so like, Okay,
I'm gonna do good, I'm gonna get stuff done. And
by the time I started making friends, they weren't really eat.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
The party kind of people either.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
We really like to hang out together and just be
in small groups. So I'm probably the only student at
Texas State who has never been.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
To the Square. I've never been. I've still never been.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Off Off and it's like a little it's like the
center of town where there's like bars and clothes. Yeah,
I've never been, and honestly I don't really want to go.
Probably going to get people mad about that, but yeah,
but yeah, so I didn't really do much. I had
some internships while I was there. I worked with Austin
(04:21):
Water Utility as their graphic design intern. But I would
say that the learning things that really stuck with me
were just really getting involved things like, I mean, you
can learn so much in a classroom, yes, but making
sure that you're kind of putting yourself out there is
a big thing. I feel like being able to network
(04:44):
and things. That was one thing I kind of missed
in college was not being able to network because I
didn't really go to those events for AD two and
things like that. Once I started kind of doing more
things with just friends people who I met in classes,
that was a big thing. So really putting yourself out
there is a big thing I learned.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Is there anything specifically you did with friends that kind
of translated into what you're doing now?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Actually a little segue I did in Sack in college,
so the now student Advertising competition.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I did it for two years. First year I was
a what was my role?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It was like a junior creative so I wasn't really
doing like the big work, but it was a great
learning experience and learning how things work.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And then second year I was the creative director, which
it was a great experience.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm so glad that the team I had with me
was amazing because something's happened for me. So I wasn't
able to be one hundred percent there all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I would say that. That was probably one of the
biggest things.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I met some really great people there and I yeah,
it was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
That's awesome. Yeah, we we had Inseac on a few
months ago. We had in Sac we had Cooper. That
was the first time we had Cooper on. And then
we had another Caitlin Kaitlyn Yeah, great, and Mike Devlin.
Yeah we Texas State. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, we
had them on.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
We're all in in set.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, so Cooper went to Texas State. Yeah, did you
see him around or yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
We actually had a few classes together.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
It was very interesting because it was I know and
I know him. And then the ad Tosi I don't
know what her role is Janet for Austin. Her and
him were really good friends. So I met like them
to kind of together and something.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh wow, yeah, small small advertising community.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So did you always wanted to go into advertising like
before college or did you have other plans originally? Was
there always like a different career path you had planned
out before you got into college.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So it's kind of a weird story.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I ever, since I was like really little, like five,
I wanted to be a lawyer so bad, Like I
remember specifically having my dad like tie a tie and
I'm going.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
To be a lawyer, and like I would wear the tie.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
But eventually in high school, so this was like five
to like high school. Freshman year, I took a debate
class because I was like.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I'm gonna be a lawyer. And I absolutely hated it
because I get so emotional whenever, like arguing with people
about stuff, and I know it's not personal, like.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I took it its personal.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, it gets personal. So I was like, Okay, I'm
not good at this. I cannot argue with people about
things like this. So then I took a year in
high school where I was like, I have no clue
what I'm doing. I don't know anything of what I'm
gonna do with my life. I was kind of freaking out.
So junior year, I ended up on a whim taking
a graphic design class and absolutely fell in love. It
(07:39):
was one of the best things I think I've ever done,
is take that graphic design class, just because I had
no interest in anything else. I knew I liked art,
I knew I liked being creative, and I was like,
I don't know anything about this, but I'm gonna try it.
And so I ended up doing that, and I took
it again my senior year, and then I was like, Okay,
I need to find something that I can do this
(07:59):
with that is a cool industry where I can still
like do things I want to do. I just didn't
know what to do. So I Google searched what can
I do with graphic design? And advertising popped up. So
I kind of just from there was like, okay, I'm
doing advertising.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Nice And then that translated later when you're working with
Austin Waterworks.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh yeah, Austin water Utility. It was really cool I did.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I did a year long internship there with their graphic designer.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
He was amazing. It was just so cool.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It was such a great learning experience to be like, Okay,
I know how to do I mean, I learned so
much just from seeing how internal projects, external projects. I
got a lot of freedoms to kind of be like, Okay,
how do you think this should be done?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It was a really cool experience.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's the coolest thing about internships is like you're really
like shadowing. You know, you can learn so much from
like that one person. Oh you're learning from and just
how they do things and all industry is really so
that's good that you know you've got that sort of
(09:04):
light or light bulb from that experience. So would you say,
since you were originally trained as an art director, can
you tell us about that experience and then how that
translates into what you do now? Like, what do you
that the fact that you do sorry having a stroke here,
(09:25):
the fact that you like our account coordinator. Now do
you see some like intertwining or is that how you
say it? Intertwine?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, intertwine intertwine.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Okay, do you see that kind of intertwining with you
know what you're doing now and graphic design?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Actually, so a lot of people, I feel like in
advertising don't think too much about how accounts can be
as not as creative, but is well, yeah, kind of
as creative as the creative team. I so, being trained
as an art director, I all through college just what
I wanted to do, that was my plan, and then
(10:08):
now that I am an account coordinator, it makes it
really interesting because I know how it's easier for me
to talk with the creative team and like client feedback
makes it a lot easier for me because I understand
what they mean in a client voice, but then I
know how to translate that easily and make sure creative
(10:28):
knows exactly what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, so we've had.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
A pro sect or we've had things where it's like
a client says like I don't like this color right,
and we're like, okay, how how do we change that?
So I kind of know already before going to creative
what kind of questions I need to ask, like what
don't you like about it?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Is it too bright? Is it whatever?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And so it makes it a lot easier to know
what kind of thought process they're already gonna think whenever
I go with that feedback, and so it makes it
get a clear answer just off the bat instead of
going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah so I really like that.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
But yeah, I still get to do creative stuff too,
which I feel like is cool because I can throw
suggestions out to the creative team if they're like.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, how would we well about doing this?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
How do we say this? It makes it so I
can still kind of be that creative like light version
where it's not as like I'm in the nitty grity
doing everything back like, oh this would be a cool concept.
Maybe take this into consideration.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But you know what, that also helps because sometimes you
can be too close to a project or something you're
working on. So like having that that person from kind
of the outside or adjacent, I should say, kind of
come in and pitch their opinions or what they think
can be very helpful because sometimes you're too close to
it and you're not seeing what the other person seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I see that in my personal projects.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I'm like, I get too much like into it, yeah,
and I'm like, I see everything wrong with this, but
I don't know how to change.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and then somebody else is like, why don't you
just do this?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Change this color? Like would have changed everything. I spent
hours on this.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Right, So you were just telling us that a little
bit about what you do at Lopez no Grete. What
made you go to Lopez No Grette Communications initially?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So I my first thing there was I through ad too,
I was actually able to get an internship with Ingrid Riddencon.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
She's amazing. Yeah, love her, big hurts to her, shout out.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But yeah, so she was able to get me an
internship as a project management intern.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, there, So I really.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Just kind of shadowed under her, mad sure or learned
a lot just from how she kind of ran things
on their McDonald's account, and it was really really interesting
to see because that's kind of what brought me to
not just wanting.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
To do creative right. Oh, I can't wait to talk
about yo. Okay, yeah, that's going to be neat. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
From there, I ended up staying on and just kind
of internship got extended and they're like, hey, we want
to keep you on now.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's perfect job now.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But yeah, so now I'm working on some of their
other accounts and it's really really cool.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Nice. Is there anything specific you can kind of tell
us or about what you're working on or what?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, so I think I can say I don't see
why not.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I work on their Motiva seventy six account as an
account coordinator, their Baylor College and Medicine account. That one's
really cool. I really like that one. We have something
in the works and I really like it. And then
also there Phillip sixty six.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Kind of account. I don't do some stuff with that too.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Nice. Grette is a huge advertising company there, I know,
like at the American Advertising Awards that when a whole
bunch of stuff every year.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, constantly, let's go Yeah, it's such a great company
and place to work.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Everyone there is so nice and just welcoming and yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Right, and it looks very nice on the inside, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I absolutely love it. Every day going to work. I'm like,
it's just a cool like it's a cool little environment.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I would like to know how did you working as
this position kind of help you realize that you don't
just like graphic design.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, so, I I mean, like I said, before going
into moving to Houston, even I was like, I'm gonna
do creative. This is my path, this is what I
want to do. And so I ended up not really
being able to find.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
A job fun.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
There was just the whole thing of everyone was graduating
and all that competitive. It's so competitive. So I was like,
you know, I'm just gonna do what I can. And
I ended up Alex had reached out to me and
was like, hey, I don't know if this is something
you want.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
To do, but and I was like, okay, I'll try it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
And I went in and I was like, you know,
I'm just gonna go in with an open mind. If anything,
maybe I can like get close to the creatives and
be like, hey, y'all got y'all got any openings, and
then I ended up just staying with project management and
just loving it. I didn't think I was as an like,
as like schedule.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oriented as I was. It turns out I really like schedules.
It's a weird thing. I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I wasn't into it in college or anything. But now
I'm like, Okay, this is I want to know when
things are happening, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Everything I want to know. So it helps a lot though.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
It does for sure, And like I realize, like as
our lives outside of work become more chaotic, oh, you
tend to just crave that scheduling in work, and so
it's just like I like being able to control the things.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That exactly that you're able to. So that's amazing. I
love that we could always use some more project managers
and industries I feel like there's never enough because the
more business you get, the more chaotic it gets.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You know, you have clients, you have deadline, all kinds
of things going on exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, it really really helps in every industry. I feel
like just having someone.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Be like, Okay, this is where we are, Yeah, this
is what needs to happen, now, this is what's next,
everything like that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, don't worry about three steps from now.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This is this is where we're focused here.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, So when you're not at work, what are some
of your favorite hoppies or activities that you do to relax?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Okay, So I have some weird ones kind of. So
I am really big into crafting. I love it, love crafting.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I do like crochet all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But then I also do a thing called disublimation, which
basically no one ever really knows what it is. I
learned it actually in graphic design in high school. It's
basically where you take like you put out an image
on like certain paper with a specific ink and all
this stuff, and then you heat press it onto different
materials and you can make pretty much anything. So I've
(16:59):
done yetti, not like actually like YETI mugs, but like
a different brand that you supplemate on it. So I've
made like my daddy yetti mug. I've done T shirts
for different companies. My brother has this like landscaping kind
of company he's been doing, so I made them like
company shirts, and I've done phone cases. I've done really
(17:19):
a lot of stuff, and it's really cool after the
episode if you have any Oh, I have pictures, I
will show you pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I love looks.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Is this like a side hustle or are you just
doing this for fun? Do you have like a.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I kind of stopped doing my Etsy just because like
things got chaotic, but I do want to start it
back up, like Sea.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Wolf Designs with a you and Wolf. So yeah, it's
pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I need to put stuff on there again.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And where does that name come from?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
So second hobby actually is where it kind of stems from.
So I also play this game called Magic the Gathering.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's love it heard of it?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh my god, my heart. I mean there's some people
who haven't so good.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I know, I love them.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So I play that like a lot, like consistently, at
least a few times a week, and we go to
a game store.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Love it? What is it on?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is it like on PC?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
So it's actually like a card game? Oh yeah, So
I play like, do you have like an app version?
But I don't like it as much? So I play
with like the physical cards and it's so fun. It's yeah,
it's like I have like so many different like decks
that you can play with and stuff. It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Are you? Are you into all the like, I guess
kind of rebranding they're doing with the cards, like they
have like a Lord of the Rings set.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Universes Beyond stuff. Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I'm not like big into the stuff they've done so far.
It's just not my like Assassin's creen and stuff. I'm
not really into, right, I.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Know some people think it's a little gimmicky. Yeah, and
I think they're I don't even think they're new cards,
are they? They are? They just like reskins, I think so.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I think most of them are just redone though, So
I'm like, it's not my favorite.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, Yeah, the Bloomborough said that just came out though.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Side sidebar love Bloomborough Magic, Wizards of the Coast, Please
sponsor me, send me, send me Bloomborough stuff. But yeah,
so that's kind of another thing I do. But basically
I got the name because to kind.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Of feed or fuel the Hey, we.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Have too many cards, me and my fiance. He actually
opened a like a little online store on TCG player,
and he named it Sea Wolf Cards because the road
he used to live on in college had like sea
Wolf in the name.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Okay, wow.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So he ended up just naming it that because he
started it then. So he so then I was like, well,
I don't know what to name my Etsy, and he's like,
we'll just do sea Wolf designs. And I was like okay,
because then it's like a cute little brand US cards
and things.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm still shook that it kind of like, you know,
it was like one of the street names.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So in college he went to Galveston, so that's like
the main road there, I guess is like something.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
So, yeah, that's where he was.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That is that is really cool? I mean that, I
mean that's also like a precursor to future things if
you ever decide to open up your own business or
agency or whatever, like you already have kind of a
brand building as it is both of you guys. That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I never thought about it like that, but now it's
up there.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So looking into the future, Caitlin, what what would you
like to do in the future in your career? Like,
what's what's your dream job after low Pezna Grete. I mean,
we just talked about a potential agency name.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I mean, not gonna lie that's actually been like a
dream of mine is to have my own like little
just like agency kind of thing where it's I kind
of do my big thing. I really like supporting small
businesses and kind of nonprofits things.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That aren't like super big, So that would be.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
My dream is to have those like little like just
random like mom and pop shops things like that, and
just do advertising for them and have a very small
but nice little agency that I feel like would be
really good.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
What is your ideal like team? Would you have like
a bigger you said small, so like would you have
you know, make sure you have creative account in house
or would you try to wear like a bunch of hats.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I like the idea of having like creative and accounts
just in house together because I feel like that helps
streamline so.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Many things at once.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
It just helps like everyone's just together working and it
doesn't like if you have like freelancers and stuff. It's
not as like, well I'm gonna work on my schedule
as much. It just helps kind of bring everyone.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Together, right.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
But I do like the idea of kind of doing
stuff myself too, just because like that'd be fun. I
like being involved in things still.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Sometimes you just want to be like really hands on.
You just want to like be in the project because
it's it's one thing to delegate, but then you know
some things might not come out the way you want.
So you're just like, if I just do it myself,
oh yeah, yeah right. So and this make not make believe,
But in this futuristic agency, you'd probably be more less
(22:27):
hybrid or less remote work, but more in house, like
you'd have people in a building and a I'm fricking
mortar type.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I go back and forth on that. Yeah, because I
love remote work. I love the idea of being able to, like,
I mean, my whole family and everything is in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So I like the idea of being able to just like.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Kind of be like, Okay, I'm going to San Antonio.
I will still be working, I'm still doing things, yeah,
but I'm also in San Antonio now.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I really like that idea. That's why I like my
current position.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
On Fridays, we're remote, so I can like Thursday night
be like okay, I'm going to San Antonio by and
then just go to San Antonio and then you're like, okay,
I'm gonna be here Friday through Sunday and then just
be there, come back on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's a it's a breezy little drive too. It's not
bad at all.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You just take ten until you want to cry, and
then then you exit.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I don't think I've ever actually driven there. Like, the
last time I've been to San Antonio was when I
was little. So yeah, i'll have to go.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Oh yeah, there's some cool stuff there.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, like Riverwalk.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
The Pearl is one of my favorite places. It's fun.
What about food? Food? Oh, there's so many good places.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Someone was telling us there's a I don't I don't
know how long it's been open for, but there's a
place called Comfort Cafe.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I love Comfort. Oh my god, I've been there. So
good is it?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We were so my My wife and I went there
I think two weekends ago to look at apartments and stuff,
and one of the apartment people showing us around was
telling us about it, and.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
She's such a it's so good.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And the whole idea behind.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
It is I believe it's a like rehabilitation facility where
they kind of help people and then at a certain point.
All the people who work there are members of this
facility and they just help and it kind of gives
them that experience to get back out into the real world.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It's such a cool like that is really and it's
like a pay what you can kind of place.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So you don't have to like it's all donation base.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's all donation basel, right.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But the the apartment lady was telling us that, I
guess it's it's getting really well known now. Yeah, so
if you if you want to go, you you got
to make sure you get like a reservation or or
I guess like plan your time that you go.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Oh yeah, like go to a really weird time.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, the afternoon because it's probably starting to make
its rounds on like a TikTok and whatever. So everyone's going.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
It's going super cool place. I'm actually really excited it's
getting big.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
So you said crafting. You love crafting hobbies, use crochet?
Did you teach yourself how to crochet?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So I actually YouTube videos are my favorite things because
it's so easy to just be like, Okay, I'm gonna
figure this out.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I've so it was twenty twenty pandemic.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Whenever I learned, because I also learned how to embroider
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I did.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I made it quite a bit of bread. I also
made a lot of tortillas. I found a really good
tortilla recipe and I didn't have a tortilla press, so
I would just get two cutting boards and like smash
it and like my whole weight on it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It was so fun.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But yeah, it was funny. My mom would say how
I would make tortillas that aren't round, but it was
you could see the love in them. So because someone
would be like heart shapes, someone looked like Texas, you
just never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So yeah, I was into.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
All the craft, crafting, the baking, everything I could do,
just because I was like at home and I.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Was like, I'm just gonna be here, so might as
well do something.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And speaking of the pandemic, I hate to bring it up,
but I was at the event we just had last week,
beers with peers, and I was talking to some of
like we're all gen Z, I believe, okay, Like we
were talking to like gen Z and or Alpha, like
the young babies in college, and they were saying like
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and I was actually talking to a colleague of mine too,
and he was just like, how do we reach these
young like people who from the pandemic, you know, they
want to be home. They're more homebodies like that kind
of like cemented them into just preferring staying home. And
I said, I was asking. I was talking to some
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students and they were just like, well, we I brought
a friend because she wanted to drink. She wanted like okay, yeah,
and so yeah, We're like well and we were looking
around and we were like, well, this is actually really
good turn out. Like maybe like it was free too,
Like we also market like you know what, you get
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a free drink when you come. But it's just interesting
to think about and just strategize, like how we can
learn in more young professionals to come, you know, kind
of get their light back when it comes to networking
and because they just they all prefer to just be
at home, and I.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Do too, selfishly.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I feel like we're all homebodies here in this rim.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
So literally I go three places home, work, and then
the card store that I go to.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Oh yeah, shout out arc Light Gaming, love you love you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Justin Okay, So you said it's it's not magic.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Is it Magic the Gathering? Yeah, okay, it's again, it's
called it's called Magic the Gathering. Just magic. Okay, cool.
I'm gonna look at it too. It it's really fun.
I'll teach you. Yeah, so I want to just teach
everyone because it's such a fun game.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's also very lucrative.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Oh it is.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
If you look in ato the the prices on some
of the cards, and some people like that's currency. It's
this crazy. Yeah, yeah, it's funny. A friend of mine
used to make like the proxy cards.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I started doing that just like a little bit too,
like for myself. I made a for.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What was it urt one year anniversary?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I think I made my fiance now a whole like
Magic the Gathering deck where it was just pictures.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Of us on all the cards.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
So I made a custom deck and then every card,
or not every card, I did a good amount of
them though, had like pictures of us, so but.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It would be like related to the card.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
So there would be like when we're like one of
the land cards and it is like a mountain. I
had one where we had gone to enchanted rock, so
it was like pictures of us there and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It was really are they the size of like solitaire cards?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, it looks like a regular size like playing card
kind of thing, like a Pokemon card, is what I
tend to say it is.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, except again way more yeah. Yeah, but a friend
of mine would make proxies and he may uh he
would have proxies of the black Lotus card, which is
the most expensive card, yeah, of magic the gathering, and
he would like leave it outside of his apartment, like
in his trash can or on his trash can, just
to see if anybody would notice or say anything. Or
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I think I think he posted a video of him
like burning the car, oh, just to try to rage bait. Yeah.
I don't think anybody ever really took the bait, but
like it entertained him for a little bit, just to see,
just to see. Yeah, the social experiment, Yeah, the social experiment.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But uh, I've always wanted in one of those social experiments,
you're interesting, something so stupid like I saw this. I
think it's called rejection therapy where people go in the
middle of like a city or just like downtown and
they'll lay down flat on their back and just like
stare at the sky and if people and like you
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kind of look around and like there's people who kind
of judge you or just like look at like double take.
And apparently it kind of like helps you take rejection.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
What help. I've never heard that.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I'd be too scared someone would like not see me
and just like fully step on me or something.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'd be like, okay, no, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It is bizarre. It's actually from TikTok Oh. I'm deep
in the TikTok woods. I need to get out.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I've been trying to like not as much. But then
Instagram reels it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's too easy to just like.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Scroll, yeah, one more video and then turns out it's
like three hours later.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yes, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna put five minutes aside
to just scroll and go nuts. And then that five
minutes comes and I'm like five more.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah. It keeps going, just does never stop. It does
never stop talking.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's what it is. It's a big addiction. But so
we talked about your future goals and your career goals
and whatnot, but like, what about personally, what is there
in the next coming years, what would you like to
obtain personally? It doesn't have to be career wise, but
like you know, you say you're married or getting married, Yeah,
getting married, I assume kind of like what's next personally?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Personally, Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
That's a weird thing that No, honestly, I'm just kind
of vibe in right now, just going with the flow,
which is hard.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
For me, but I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
But yeah, I would say personally, I want to be
more be do more at talking. I want to do
more creative things. That's the thing I've noticed recently. I've
just had a lot of life things happen, so I
want to get back into doing like creative things, like
just for myself, like the proxy thing I started making
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some that I'm like, oh, this is just like things
I like doing, but I haven't like fully gotten back
into it yet, and I just need to to be like, Okay,
I'm going to be creative at least in my free time,
if not fully in my job.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Then So that's kind of what I guess. The main
thing for me is I want to be more creative.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
That's a goal of mine. What's another, I don't know
if I have another, it's the main one. I also
want to make more friends, honestly. Honestly, that's a goal
of mine. I have So I do have friends I've
made through like magic and stuff like that, but it's
been difficult for me to like meet people outside of
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like work or games, which isn't bad, but it's just
so little time between. Like you spend so much time
at work and everything, and then you get home and
you're tired and you don't want to do anything.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So it just makes it a bit more.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Difficult to like want to go out and like meet people,
have conversations and things like that.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
For sure, I'm always preaching like how we should not
be working forty hours a week lives, Like why can't
we be like Europe or you know not. I don't
know if it's your up other countries out there who prioritize,
you know, scenic views and going outside and just enjoying
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where you live. And I just wish that we don't
have to work so much.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But that's one thing I've heard.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I remember on Intact we had this insight thing and
it really has stuck with me.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Honestly. It's the fact that.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
In previous generations kind of like what was it the
insight specifically was gen z does not work.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
They don't live to work, they work to live.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, And I'm like that is just like yes, because
I'm like, I don't want to That's not like my
dream is to work.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I don't like honestly, you.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Know, I want My dream is to do things that
I enjoy, and work is what I need to do
to do that. Right.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
So, I mean some of that can kind of come from,
you know, the state of the economy these days, or
even even after the pandemic. Right, the pandemic kind of
opened a bunch of people's eyes to, oh, corporations don't
really care about us. Because a lot of people got
laid off, they got furloughed. You know, the the work
from home thing started coming in because a lot of
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also a lot of corporations were like, oh, actually, you
can just do a bunch of stuff at home on
your computer and you don't have to come to work.
And so the result from the pandemic was just a
lot of people just kind of realizing like, oh, we
don't have to work all the time and dedicate all
all this energy to work when first of all, corporations
can replace us in an instant and then also we
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can just stay at home, I can wog into a
computer and do like.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You're saving money five and a half six hours of work.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So, and yeah, you don't have to commute. Yeah, there's
a less commute. I mean, I live seven minutes from
my job, but that's because I work in like early
morning four am radio.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Right, So that makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah. So, but if I had like a regular nine
to five, it would you know, it would take me
like an hour to get get to work. You have to,
you know, you're spending ten hours of your day dedic
hated the work when you add the commute in.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So I forget how early you have to wake up, Jacob. Yeah,
do you sleep in on the weekends?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know I do, but I still like I wake
up earlier. Ye, then a normal sleeping in would be right.
It's so I'm like, I'm up by eight on the weekends.
But you know, to me, that's that's sleeping in.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, yeah, I just I have struggle waking up on
weekdays anyways.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
On the weekend, I'm just out, Like most of the time,
it's left in until eleven.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I haven't done that in so long.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
That's amazing today, that's like consistent for me. Okay, good.
I try not on workdays. I want to make that
very clear.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I show up to work on time, but it is
a struggle to wake up in the mornings.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Are you a late night al.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yes, it's just easier to like I've been awake all day,
I'm just going to stay awake. Then I have to
like wake up, and I'm like, no, I'd rather go
back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, the same.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Now. I am in no shape or form a morning person,
But for my job, I forced myself to be because
it's well, it's like it's it's only me right in
the in the in the little booth studio thing. So
it's like if I'm late, it's it's a.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Big deal, understandable.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You know. It's not like, Okay, if I'm late, there's
another guy, or there's like two other people who can
kind of, you know, cover whatever. No, it's me. So
it's just like, nope, I have to wake up and
I have to be here. Oh yeah, wow, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Is that going to be at your next job too.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't know. I'm working on transferring. But also if
if I get out of early morning radio and going
to something else, I'm not opposed to that at all. Whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Oh. Nice.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, there's other media companies and actual podcast studios up
in San Antonio that I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So h I bet that's going to be a smooth transition.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So is it Usually with audio engineers like is it
you know if they see oh yeah, he's he's done
this before.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah, it can be.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's it's very much experienced space. Okay, right, you know,
depending what you're going into. But yeah, so I think
I think it will be. I'm not very nervous or
scared about it. It's just I'm waiting until like end
of September to actually really start reaching out. So now
I'm just in a waiting period. Like I've gotten I've
gotten my reels situated, I've got my resume knocked out,
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and now I'm just like okay, you're like oh.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
That's the hardest thing though, is like getting everything making
sure it's like good, because that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It's so subjective. I feel like it is like you.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Don't know what the other person looking at it is.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Especially with resumes, there's all kinds of weird rules.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
I swear that is what fires me up because someone
can have like a lot of experience you know, personality great,
but you know you have someone like especially bigger companies
like this.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
HR people were the ones who started using AI.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And just likes and that fires me up. That Yeah,
that's just something I want to set on.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I think it annoys everybody.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You know, Yeah, I can.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
You can try so hard, Like your resume is perfect,
You've got it, and it's like the wrong format for
AI and it's just okay, bye. I'm like, that's spent
so much time on this and I'm I'm qualified for
this job, but it said no.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And I've noticed like Houston area like they I guess
the companies I've interviewed at in the past, they really
want to get to know you. And I think that's
a lot of like especially in agencies in Houston, mom
and pop. Oh yeah, so that's really cool that we
have that sort of vibe within our Houston community. And
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I guess, you know, to close up, if there is
any advice you would like to give to any college
students or basically anyone starting their career, whether that be
in Houston anywhere. Really, what's something that you've taken away
for yourself that you'd like to kind of share with
other people.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I feel like for me specifically, I remember being told
in college my freshman year, one of like the first
classes I took, someone was saying how most people will
change their major, and I was like, that's not gonna
be me. I'm gonna do creative. This is my this
is my passion, this is what I'm gonna do. Right,
and all through college I felt that, and I was
like at the end of college, I was like, ha,
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I didn't change, I didn't do anything. And then now
it's like, I'm not doing creative.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
So I feel like my biggest piece of advice is.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Just because it's something you think in the moment, that's
what you want to do forever.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Things change.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Nothing is set in stone until it's in the past, right,
So don't put all your eggs in one thing that
you want to do and put everything you want to
do in there and not explore anything else. There's no
point in deciding and at a college age like this
is what I'm doing forever and never looking at anything else.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I feel like floring things that even if you think
maybe I don't want to do this, but it's just
a cool thing to look into for sure. Yeah, that's
what I did. I was because I was creative, this
is what I'm gonna do. And I was like, you know,
I'm just gonna look at what project management is. I
don't even really know what that at the time. I
didn't know what that even really meant in like an
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agency setting m hm.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
So I was like, you know, I'm just gonna I'm
gonna figure it out. I'm gonna try it.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
If anything, I get in an a at an agency
and just kind of learn what's happening inside an.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Agency for sure, because before you go into an agency
or just like anywhere in advertising in general, for at
least for me, I didn't have any idea what this
consisted of.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Oh I didn't either.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah. I was like, I know that it's people together
doing ads. That's all I knew pretty much. I was like,
I didn't know how accounts really like interacted with each
other on a daily basis and things like that.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Oh, absolutely, it's it was really interesting.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
So just being open to what you could do, even
if you don't think it's what you want to do,
just see what it is.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I almost feel like in college, you know, those academic advisors,
they should be preaching like, look, if you have the
financial bounds. Switch your major as much as you can
so that you can really figure out while you're here,
you know, away from home, and you know, no financial
burden all on your own, yet you know, figure out
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what you want to do. It's okay to explore different majors.
I went in college knowing that too, like I'm not
going to change my major at all, like zero Zibity Squad,
like I'm going to go through with this whole major.
But then I changed, you know, at the end of
my curriculum, and I was like, man, I should have
done this earlier in my curriculum. But yeah, I'm so
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glad that you've talked about that openly, and you know,
me and Jacob greatly thank you for coming on and
talking to us.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, it is a really good conversation.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
But also I love well spoken people.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Turn my best and I'm looking forward to seeing Sea
Wolf Agency pop up.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
It's gonna be here, it's gonna pop off, it's gonna
be next big thing or just look out.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Your own official magic the gatherings at at one point, hey,
you never know.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Again.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Please I'll email this episode to them and just.
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