A Son Is A Son Until He Gets A Wife, A Father Is A Father All His Life

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This show is produced and hosted byMark Webber. The show is sponsored by
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Who is Mark Webber. He's aself made business executive here to help you
find your success, from the NewYork City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in

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Paris. His global success story inthe luxury world of fashion is inspiration off.
He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the
American dream is alive. And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion,
Mark Webber. Mark Webber, Iwoke up this morning and had two
texts You inspired me from my sonJarard, I love you, Daddy,

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from my son Jesse. As afather. Priceless, as a human being,
priceless And all the money in theworld can't buy those sentiments nor the
feeling I have when I'm reading them. In this regard, I'm a rich
man, a father who's loved,a father who's importantly appreciated, a father
who's value added to his sons.Priceless. Are you money? We all

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work for it? We strive tohave it. We sacrifice time and mental
well being. Money we may needit, but what can it buy?
So many things money buys. Moneycan buy a bed, but not sleep,
a clock but not more time,a book but not knowledge, you

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a title but not respect, medicinebut not health, amusement but not happiness,
acquaintances but not friendships, obedience butnot loyalty, a house but not
a home. Money can't buy melove. I've learned that through the Beatles.
But having love from your children priceless. Like money, it doesn't come

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cheap. You have to earn itthe hard way. I have to work
at it for you, for them. Why have children if you're not going
to try and make them better thanyou are, you have life's lessons to
teach. I'm a father, I'malso admittedly an acquired taste. I'm not
a fan of humans, and Idon't search for friendships. I have few
friends. In truth, I hadto make my own friends. Literally,

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I had to make two sons.My wife taught me how to be a
father. Be there, listen,unconditionally, loved them, and now all
these years later, I love you. You inspired me priceless. In fact,
I can end the show right now, right at this point, and
I've done my job tonight. Butin spite of that, in spite of

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all this touchy, geeky feely stuffgoing on right now, we do have
an entertaining night planned. Jesse,my lawyer, my co host, my
son got married three weeks ago,and tonight's his first week back. Disappearance
is first as a married man.Jesse, I'm so happy you're back.
I missed you. I'm even morehappy than I like her, your wife.

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You're not as happy as I amthat you like her. That was
a relief more than anything, thatyou like my wife. That was always
one of my biggest concerns growing up. Would you like the person that I
married? And you really like her? So I'm happy about that. But
it's great being home. I misseddoing the show with you. I missed
you, Hi, everybody. Ihave to say, I'm not sure how

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great it is to leave the GreekIslands. That's where I was honeymooning.
I had nothing to do, Ihad nothing on my mind, I had
no stress. It was very,very hard to leave that. I miss
it already. It's only the beginning, I should say to you. You
know, a wife is a giftthat you give yourself. A vacation,
it's a gift you give to bothof you. How was it being away

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for three weeks? That's amazing tobe so checked out. Nobody bothered me.
They knew it was my honeymoon.I didn't have to check an email,
I didn't have to look at anything. Sometimes, even on vacations,
you're expected to look at work alittle bit. Not in my honeymoon.
It felt very, very different.I loved being away for it. And
it wasn't three weeks. It wasabout two and a half. It was

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amazing to do it, so detached, so relaxed, the best food,
amazing relaxation. I gotta tell you. Three days in I was thinking,
am I really gonna come home?Is there any way I could stay here
later? I didn't want to.Hey, I told you to keep staying
there. I have life, Ihave work. I couldn't I have the
radio show. Well, don't gothere. You could have took your computer.
We could have done it while youare away. By the way you

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told me to do that, therewas no way that was gonna happen.
Did you happen to notice I didtwo great shows without you being there.
I did. They were great.I felt a little threatened. I was
like, maybe he doesn't need meas much as I thought. Well food
for thought. I guess that's whatcomes down to how long you should be
away for I told you, Isaid to you, I called you.

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I was like, you did greatshows, like really, really fantastic shows.
I enjoyed them. I particul likethe one where you recorded that I
didn't even realize you were going todo the few hours after the wedding.
Oh yeah, that was clever.But getting back to vacations and taking the
time. When I grew up,I never enjoyed vacations. I was always

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feeling guilty not working. I wouldtake a week. My wife would always
look at me, Mommy, He'dsay, what are you doing? Why
don't we take two weeks? Ican't be away for two weeks. Can't
be away for two weeks? Ridiculous. Then one time I was working for
the CEO of the company and heinformed at the board of directors, Then
unless my executives take two consecutive weeksevery year, regardless of how much time

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they're entitled to, if they don'ttake at least two consecutive weeks on a
vacation. They're not going to gettheir full bonus. I only forget.
We had a group of twenty sixmanagers and he sat us all down and
I said, I have newsphere.You all should really be excited what I'm
about to say. We all workextreme hard. We all need vacations.
We need to reboot, come backto ourselves and enjoy ourselves. We deserved

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it, you earned it an effectiveimmediately, you will all take two consecutive
weeks vacation. I don't care ifyou're entitled to four weeks and you wanted
to take four different weeks a weekoff, no more. Two weeks have
to be at one time, andI think you'll learn to love it.
And I'm mandating it. And anyonewho doesn't do that will four for ten

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percent of their bonus. So whathe did he forced everyone to take two
weeks, including me, and Iwas never the same for it. I
never ever ever went away in thesummer or the winter where I didn't take
at loose two weeks. I've takeneven more. Jesse and I had a
vacation. We took five weeks.It was incredible. It was in between
PVH and LVMH. I made sureI didn't start early enough there so I

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could give ourselves that long time.And those who've out there, particularly those
of you make the rules, youmight want to remember that lesson. We're
all competing for the best talent.This new generation out there puts more value
on experiences than things, less cars, more travel. So by enforcing a

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portunification policy that allows people to actuallyenjoy themselves, I'm wind down, I'm
not thinking about the minute of returningthe minute you arrive. It's a great
thing. So you might want tothink about that as business managers. That's
a great idea. Yeah, itwas the amount of time that really helped,
because I really felt a way,felt like a vacation. I don't
remember the last time I took somethingthat long. I've usually taken like an

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extended weekend, maybe a week,but two and a half weeks I think
it was the last time I did. It was with you, Like you
said, so it was amazing.Did you miss me, by the way,
Sure terribly, But I am thrilledyou're on your own. Now,
what does that mean? This guy'sretiring from subsidizing my two baby boys from

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answering the phone every second. I'mgoing on vacation. I can't wait.
I hate to tell you this,but now that I'm married, I'm going
to need more of your time.I'm in guidance. I have no experience
at being a married guy. Ineed your help. Hey, give me
a break. You're on your own. I'm retired. Are you forgetting the
California story? Because I haven't forgottenabout it? Which California story. It's

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funny. I knew paying attention toyou come in handy someday. You remember
you flew to San Francisco to meetwith the chairman of Macy's in the West
Coast. Oh yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah. Here I am coming
out of my fatherhood retirement awfully quickly. We'll tell the story. Okay.
I'm president of Phillips fan Using atthe time, and I get a call

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from the chairman of Macy's, afellow named Robert Bob Metler. Good guy.
He was based in California, andhe's in San Francisco, and he
asked to meet me when I flyacross the country to come see him.
So she said, Mark, Iwant to meet at seven thirty in the
morning. I said, wait,a minute. I'm flying all the way
across the country. You want tomeet at seven thirty in the morning,

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he said, Mark, seven thirtyin the morning is ten thirty New York
time. I live my life.I get in the office five every day.
You have to understand that we inCalifornia, based on a company that's
based in New York. We getup very early, so I go in
to meet him. During the courseof our conversation, he gets a phone
call and he says to me beforehe picks it up, it's my son.

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I have to take that call.And he proceeds to talk to this
fellow. I'm assuming he's a youngguy. The way he's talking to him,
instructing him in everything, it soundedlike he was in his teens.
And he was just very responsive,very helpful, very patient, very everything
everything you'd expect a great father tobe. And while I was watching him,
even though he was having a meetingwith me, I respected the idea

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that he stopped what he was doingto talk to his son. And at
the end of his conversation, he's, look, I apologize for that,
but when my son calls, Ihave to answer it. I said,
well, you know, he's ayoung kid. Of course you have to
do it. He needs his daddy. He said, no, no,
no, he was thirty seven yearsold. I said thirty seven. He
said. Let me tell you something, Mark, the one lesson you'll learn

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in life when you're a father.It doesn't matter how old your chill drink
get, they're always going to needyou. So, yeah, Jesse,
I guess you're right. That's mypoint exactly. This is just the start
for you. No vacation for you. Yeah, I guess. So before
we leave this, I wanted toask you something. It happened on vacation,

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and I figured this is a goodway to start married life. What
do you do if you want todo something and your wife wants to do
something else? How do you compromisethere? Because she's no longer a girlfriend
or she's a wife. What doyou do? Well, the cool guy
in me says, who cares whatshe wants? No, the reality is,
and though the expression is happy wife, happy life, you always have

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to try and bend over backwards todo what your wife wants. It's the
right thing to do, and ifshe's the right girl, like in the
Bronx tale, she'll do the rightthing by you. You know what I'm
talking about in the Bronx Tale,right of course, you're talking about the
car test. Yeah, why don'tyou explain it? So for anybody who
hasn't seen The Bronx Tale, spoilher for you. It's only what thirty

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years old. The main guy who'sa mafia boss, he's talking to this
young kid, so he took underhis wing as if he was his own
son. He treated him like hisown son. Yeah. So he's talking
about women and he says, youknow, in life, you only get
three great ones. And he goes, how do you know which one's a
great one? And he goes,it's the door test. And the door
test is and he basically says,is that when you open the door for

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her, and you open the doorfor her the passenger side, she gets
in, you close the door andyou make your way around the car to
go to the other side. Ifshe doesn't open the car door for you
so you can get in, she'sa selfish person and you dumper. That's
it. If she breaches around,opens the front door and lets you in,
that's a keeper. That's the rightone. Great story, great movie.

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By the way, my brother Jaredsaid that speech in his speech at
the wedding. He used that asa reference. Oh I knew I heard
it recently. We'll talk about thatin a little bit. But in the
meantime, all I have to sayto you is you're away, and I
was very happy. And then hearfrom you very much. Well, it
was a seven hour time difference whenI called you. It was not always

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the best time, but I listen, I always tried to FaceTime you at
least once a day. Yeah,yeah, yeah, you know what it
is. I'm going to tell youwhat it is. A son's a son
till he gets his wife. Buta father is a father all his life.
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host, Mark Webber. Anything aboutbeing a father. I wake up in
the morning, I take stock onmyself. Everything's okay. I get out
of bed and the first thing Ithink about is how are the boys today,
What's going on in their lives andI'm trying to remember if I have
to do something for them. Butthat's what's on my mind. And it's
interesting how you put your sons beforeyourself, or your children before yourself.

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It's the right thing to do.The theme tonight is a son's a son
until he gets a wife. Fatheris a father all his life. I
do it gladly. I understand myresponsibility. I understand that you bring children
into the world, you have responsibilityto help them make themselves as good as

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they can be. Whatever that meansto every individual, doesn't mean that all
of them have to be rocket scientists. Not all of them are going to
be elon musk. But whatever itis they choose to do or you guide
him to do, you want tomake sure that they could be successful.
You want them to learn from themistakes you made. You want them to
understand the lessons in life that youlearned, either the easy way of the

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hard way, and to make itpart of their vernacular and part of their
upbringing and what they become. Andit's so important to you. Having said
it, I'm here with my son, Jesse Weber, who is back as
a married man. You know howstrange it is for me Jesse to see
you wearing a wedding ring, becauseI'm like a little boy. I'm always
your little baby, you know.The other day I have to tell you

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I wish it to Jared. Ididn't tell it to you that when you
came to the house, when youfirst got back, and you, me
and your Haley, your wife wassitting around talking about the good, the
bad, and the ugly of thewedding, etc. Taking a post mortem
of what took place and what wereit well and what didn't. You were
so in command you felt like adifferent person and even told that to Jared.

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I think going away where you wereresponsible kind of changed you. Yeah,
I was the adult of the tripto say, you know it should
be to So every time I've traveledinternationally, I traveled with you. You
were the one looking out for me. In this situation. I'm older than
my wife. She really hasn't beenout of the country ever, so I
was the one who had to beresponsible. The interesting thing about international travel,

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it's not your country. We don'thave the same rights that we have
here, even if we treated fairlyin those countries, those countries are different
from us. The thing that alwaysused to worry me is the value of
your passport, not only that somebodyelse might want it, but the idea
of losing it drove me crazy.And in the early days, whenever I
traveled overseas, I wore boots andI would tuck my wallet into my boots

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to assure myself and I wouldn't fallout of my pocket. The old would
pick my pocket, and frankly,when it was in your boots, which
was I always have one of thoselong billfold wallets, I could feel it
wherever I went. Were you afraidabout losing your wallet? I was afraid
of two things. I was afraidof losing the wallet, and I was
also nervous. Apparently, when travelinternationally, there's a lot of people that

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have special devices that can actually hackyour credit cards. So what I had
to do was buy these little RFIDpouches for each one of my credit cards
and keep them in my wallet.Well, let me tell you what I
did. I bought a fanny pack. Now it's not a fanny pack that
you wear on the outside. Letme be very clear, it is a

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wallet fanny pack. Well, itbetter not be for the outside, because
when I bought the greatest utility beltin the history of man from Pradac and
I Will bought it for the reasonthat you carry so many things wherever.
I went between you and your brotherlike calling it a fanny pack, I
got crazy and you left in me. Now a few years later he bought
the same one, and it wasn'tso funny. Now they had children and

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he would go out with them,and you need to have a place to
carry money, and they have waterbottles and a snack. All of a
sudden, it's not funny. Sono funny pack. It's a little dorky.
It's a little dorky. But talkingabout dorky, I have to say
this was the dorkiest thing. Sowhat I bought was a wallet fanny pack.
And what it is. It's gottwo zippers and you put your wallet

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and I had a long wallet withthe passports in the zipper, and then
the fanny pack goes in your pantslike it's by your underwear, and then
you zip up your pants. Youdon't see it. It's like a hidden
money belt. It's like a hiddenmoney belt. You can't even tell him
wearing it. But the funniest partis when I had to go pay stuff
I unzipped my pants, I pulledthe pants down, and I have to

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take the wallet out. I wasin a store in Greece. Guy just
started hysterically laughing at me, andI go, listen, you may laugh.
No one's reaching in there, andthat's where I kept everything. It
was great. It was one ofthe best purchases in my life. So
how much did you enjoy the trip? It was like my favorite trip ever.
I thought I was your best timeever. You were a baby,
okay, you and I we wentaway for five weeks. It was one

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of the greatest times of my life. Our trips to Europe. We went
to London, we went to Italy, we went to Paris, went to
the south of France. Talk priceless. Those trips were priceless. They were
amazing. I wouldn't trade them anywherein the world. I look at pictures
of them all the time. Thisis a trip with my wife. It's
very different. Yeah, of courseit is, sure, it is.

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I'm second best now, you knowthey say second best is first place for
loses. I'm not too happy aboutthis first at best. The segment.
It's just different, that's all that. It is, as it should be.
But a son is a son tillhe gets his wife. But a
father's a father and all his life. Listen, let's look travel. Okay,
being that we're on this subject,traveling the world, it requires some

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thought. The way you schedule yourtrip, the airlines that you choose,
the connections in between the airlines,the hotels you choose, the events you
choose, and the time you leaveopen for yourself, and of course the
places you pick. So being thatI'm second best and this was your favorite
trip, how much did you enjoyit and what was the best time what

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you were doing? So in Greecewe went to a few different islands,
but Santa Greene was the nicest island. Well, where did you fly from?
So we flew from New York toAthens. And by the way,
anybody that I spoke to before aboutGreece, everybody said, you're not gonna
like Athens, that you're gonna beyour least favorite place. Athens was awesome.
Athens is where all the Greek sitesare. It's where the Parthenon is,

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the Acropolis, you see all theold sites, there's the city they're
shopping. We stayed at a greathotel, had one of the best meals
I've ever had in my entire life. I loved it so much I almost
hugged the chef. How are thesites? Though? The sites were breathtaking,
one of my favorite things to do. How different was it from what
we saw in Rome or in Florence. It's similar. I mean, you're
looking at history. It just sohappened. These are things that are they're

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having difficulty preserving it. You can'teven really go very close to these structures
because they don't want anybody touching them. And these are things that are thousands
and thousands and thousands of years old, and you're looking at it, and
some of these structures have ancient Greekwriting on it. It's just amazing to
think about what the history is there. So I loved it. And by

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the way, going all the wayto the Acropolis, which is the tallest
point in Athens, you had multipletour groups, so it was packs of
people in the heat going up tolook at it. But it was amazing
to see it. You got awhole view of Athens. That loved it.
Hey, before we go from Athens, where was your favorite destination to
go before Greece? I would saythe south of France. I love the

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South of France with you amazing Youhave this hotel right on the water.
You literally crossed the street. You'reon the beach. The Carlton to Catch
a Thief was filmed there RaSE Kellyand Carrie Grant. What an amazing side.
I had no choice. I hadto go there. I had to
go in my whole life. Asa matter of fact, it was one
of those things that people call abucket list. I had to see it.
I love that movie. I sawit when I was a kid.

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I always was a fan of CarrieGrant away he carried himself and the way
he looked in his clothes. Infact, I am going to be wearing
a white dinner jacket. You didn'tlet me wear it at your wedding,
but I'm going to be wearing awhite dinner ja I could for the first
time in my life a few daysfrom now, going to a function.
I'm very excited about that. Okay, well, that I loved. What
was your favorite place? Thank youfor asking. I would say that for

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me. The honest answer is isI had favorite places at any given time
when I was a young man,younger than you, and I was traveling
back and forth to Asia, andI was doing multi million dollars deals by
myself as a kid. I wroteabout it in my book Once in my
Life, I was brilliant. I'mtwenty six years old and I'm doing tens
of millions of dollars worth of productiondeals in Asia by myself. Yeah,

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I had a foreign office that Ihung my hat in, but I was
making these decisions by myself. Iguess it was my blue period. It
was the smallest period I was everin my life, other than when I
give you good advice as a father, but a business wise, it was
hard to believe. I still lookback now and I think about what I
did when I accomplished, I can'tbelieve it. So I would go to
Hong Kong, and I love stayingat the Peninsula Hotel with its history and

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the quartet that comes out and playswhile you're having lunch. Then I moved
to the Intercontinental, which was thenthe Region Hotel Naijing Chao Deem the Region
Hotel looking out at the water.You literally would sit in the breakfast room
and you would see ocean liners passingby. You can touch him was so
close. My favorite restaurant the regionSteakhouse. I used to eat there almost

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every night. I loved it somuch. And then, of course my
Japan period and Osaka, Japan.I was all over Tokyo, but Osaka
was the capital of tech styles forJapan at the time I was going there.
I would stay in the Royal HotelO and they had a zen garden
which you'd have for breakfast, andall the sites and all the wheeling dealing.
That was the greatest point in mylife. When I grew up,

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I never enjoyed for us because Ididn't speak the language. I just didn't
relate to it, so it alwaysfelt foreign to me. But as I
grew and I went to work forLVMH and now I'm hanging out with French
speaking people. Or if I wasn't, they set up a reservation for me
at a thrown or a hotel.I'd walk in on it was like I
owned it. And that's because veryoften the executives that LV did own it.

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And I loved it. But I'mwith you. The South of France
was extraordinary experience. Having dinner underthe moon and looking at the sites and
dinner there you're dying. You couldeat for three hours. So over the
course of time it changed for me. But I'm glad you like Greece,
and it was great. I wasin favor of you're going to Greece.
I thought it was too far away. You've thought it was too far away.

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Santorini is stunning because what it isis it's all these islands that were
all once together. And I learnedthe volcanic eruption happened back in the past
and literally tore apart the islands.So you overlook this entire Aegean Sea and
the islands in the distance, Itall looked like a postcard. I will

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tell you this. You know howevery at the end of every week,
you get a report from your cellphone that says you've been looking at your
cell phone an increase of seventy fivepercent from last week. You ever get
those messages like, yeah, ofcourse, I was down seventy five percent.
I only looked at the phone barelybecause I was looking at everything around
me. I was trying to takein everything. I was taking pictures on

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the phone and calling you. Butother than that, my goodness, I
was just taking it all in.It was a it was a postcard.
It was a trip of a lifetime. And on that note, how is
sexy time increase? I want tohear a funny story. And it's not
what you're thinking. And by theway, very weird that my father's let's
just all call it what it is. That was very weird. But let's
just keep going. I don't thinkso, No, it's weird. It's

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weird. I'm sure we'll get notes. My wife and I we go to
our room and this is like thefirst night we check into the hotel.
Open up the door. All thelights are dimmed and there's candles, like
they set up candles in the roomwith rose petals, and it's leading from
the door onto the bed, andon the bed it's the roses are in

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a shape of a heart. There'sa bottle of champagne on ice. There's
a note from the concierge saying,we set this up for you. First
thought I had was maybe I wouldlie to my wife and say, oh,
you see what I set up foryou. I didn't do that,
but they're expecting. They're like,oh, very romantic, it's your honeymoon.
You know what we did. Wethrew all the rose petals to the
side and watched the Super Mario movieon my phone and fell asleep. So

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that's the romance that we had inGreece. Gee whiz. Speaking of which,
you know, you and your wifeyou're going there. You didn't even
have any luggage. What was thatabout? We were suitcase challenged and I
said to you, I'm having trouble, and you were very kind enough to
not only give me one suitcase,but two suitcases, and not just any

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suitcases. Arguably the best suitcases I'veever seen in my entire life. They
were incredible. They had all thesecompartments, so much space. They were
too Mey Toomey duffels. They werebrand new. I never used them.
Oh they were great. You're thebest. You're the best. Thank you
so much. So let's talk alittle fashion for a second here, and

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now that we're onto this thing.What's your pack? I packed all white
pants. I must have had twopants that weren't one pair of black dress
pants and one pair of light bluejeans. Everything else was different forms of
white pants, all different kinds ofbathing suits, a lot of linen shirts.
I packed a white dinner jacket likea white blazer, also a black

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blazer, then a bunch of casualshirts to walk around in, but very
like, not fancy like more justlike I packed a few a couple of
suede shoes and like white sneakers.But it was very easy. Like when
you go there, everybody's dressed,very relaxed and casual. It's beautiful,
warm weather. You told me Ihad some great combinations. You know.
It's great about white pants. There'sno one in this world, probably no

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store in this world that owns asmany white pants as I do. And
one of the reason I like whitepants. While we're on the fashion segment
here is there think of a canvasof you paint on white looks beautiful,
and white pants no matter where youare. The one camel colored shoal call
a sweater that was priceless. Itlooked amazing. You wore a cable sweater

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and white looked amazing. Some ofthe blue choices you had, you're a
very colorful guy, by the way, but they all look great. Even
navy look great. It really lookednice and fun to do. Oh,
it was great. And my wifewas dressed like a Greek princess, you
know, all like the Greek dresses. She was wearing that too. I
will tell you, I'm not gonnalie to you. I think we were

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better dressed than other people in there. By the way, when you go
to Europe, there's such a class, of such a distinction. Every one
of the taxi drivers is dressed likea supermodel. All the guys slick backed
hair, designer sunglasses, designer shoes. You know who looked the worst there,
all the American tourists. I wasembarrassed, all right, I wanted
to go there. You know,I'm glad you just said it. Being

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there, we're talking fashion. I'malways in fashion. I've got a long
list of hates currently, sneakers withsuits, shoes with white soles, and
sandals. It's hard to even registermy hate for sandals. I don't care
what brand they are. I can'tlook at them. And men wearing those
open back shoes that look like slippersfor the bedroom, I want to literally

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throw up. I won't even mentioncrocs, because next to them, crocs
look good. But the thing thatdrives me more than anything crazy for Americans
are shorts. I remember you andI were in Florence. We were staying
at a beautiful hotel, and weasked the concierge. What's the best restaurant
to eat in Florence? He said, with the Italian accent, What do

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you mean by best? I said, we want to dine. We want
to eat great food. We wantto take our time. We don't want
to feel rushed. We want toget dressed nice. Where to go?
He give us the name of arestaurant, and he said to us,
whatever you do, you can't wearshorts. You must need a jacket and
you need long pants. You andI go there. We look great.
I'll never forget. I was wearinga white jacket jeans. You wear a

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black jacket with jeans. We lookgreat. We get there and there are
guys there wearing more casual clothes withoutjackets. And when we ordered our drinks,
I called over the maitre. Danasaid, coming here. We were
told that we must wear jackets,and we came here. We're the only
ones with jackets, and he laughed, singoes, senior Webber. We tell

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you to wear jackets for a reason. You Americans seem to think that it's
okay to wear shorts at night.We Italian men don't want to see men
win shorts, so we tell youto wear jackets because we know you won't
wear shorts. That's sterical, butyou know, you know, the biggest
surprise to me was I mentioned awhite dinner jacket. My frame of reference

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growing up with casinos, dinner jacketstuxedos was James Bond, and wherever James
Bond went, he would wear histuxedo with the red carnation, a red
pocket square, white pocket square.You and me went to Monte Carlo and
we went to the casino and MonteCarlo and it was such an exciting evening.
Once again, we're dressed or jeanswith sport coats, dress shirts.

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We look really put together, casualbut put together. We show up in
the casino everyone's wearing shorts and tshirts. I wanted to throw up.
I couldn't believe. It's one ofthe great disappointments of my life. So
I'm glad to hear that you lookgood in jeans. I'm glad to hear
you look good in your casual whitepants. I'm glad to hear that you
were able to put it together andstill look better than everyone. So,
if I got this correct, youhad a great time on your honeymoon.

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You went to the Greek Isles,even though I told you not to go
there. You had a better timewith your wife than you did with me,
which only stands to prove that hisson's a son until he gets a
wife. A father is a fatherall his life. Take a break back
in a minute. Always in Fashionspent a lifetime of my career building the
van Usen Brand, and I amso pleased that they're back with us now

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talking about suits. Men, we'redressing up again, and it's become cool
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You can wear a suit formally togo out at night or to an event,
to wear a suit to the officewith or without a tie. If
you look closely, now fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or

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mocknecks. The choices are endless,and every one of them looks right.
You could really really look the part. I believe that packaging yourself this is
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and is embracing the whole idea ofdressing up. Let's not forget van Uson
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You should go look at them.Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's

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your host, Mark Webber. I'ma father. I suppose, more than
anything else in life, that's whatI'm best at. I believe that my
wife's guidance, my understanding, theresponsibility, my eagerness to do the right
thing, the fact that I ama loner. I don't seek out friends.

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I made my own. Literally,I have two sons that are my
friends. I do understand the differencebetween being a friend and being a father
and I apply them both fairly.But I love my children, and I
love the way it feels that I'vehelped them and they've helped me in turn.
My youngest son got married three weeksago. He's now back in the

(37:07):
studio with me. We're talking abouta son is a son till he gets
his wife, but a father's afather all his life. I've become second
fiddle, and I'm getting used tothat. You're not second fiddle. You're
not second fiddle. You know.There's a part of me that doesn't like
it, But there's a part ofme, you know, that understands that's

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the way it should be. Afterall, I spent all these years with
you, and you've met her ayear ago, so you know, I
kind of get it, but notfour years ago, but close enough.
So anyway, let's talk about thewedding. You had a wedding at the
Plaza in New York. It wasspectacular the way it looked with spectacular.
The actual rooms that the wedding takeplace and look like the Sistine Chapel.

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They are old school, old money, you know, really beautifully appointed.
And then all the people that comein too, had the flowers to the
music the lighting. It was trulya beautiful and the Plaza Hotel is a
nice place to visit. So everyonethere, you know, you have jaw
drops when you walk in the ceremonyin there, so it was very very

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nice. So Jesse, you married, you have a wife, you don't
have children yet, right, thiswas not a shotgun wedding. No,
definitely, you have nothing to worryabout there. Okay, good, good,
all right. So what was yourfavorite part of the wedding. I
had a few favorite parts. Look, there were certain things I absolutely loved
about the wedding, like the firsttime I saw my bride, when all

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all of us showed up to takepictures. You know, I could talk
to food all that. But therewas a few moments that really stood out.
I loved the ceremony, and particularlywhen you were behind me and you
had your hands on my shoulders andwe're watching everybody come down. I loved
that moment so much. It wasgreat. I loved being in the ceremony

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room. Yeah, you know,it was instinct. If I don't know
why, I decided to put myhands on your shoulders like a shine of
support. I suppose a sign ofcamaraderie. The ability to whisper in your
ear and talk about what we werewatching. You made a decision which is
very unusual for a wedding, whereyou decided you wanted to be the first
ones out so that you could watchthe whole procession. And it turned out

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you and I had a great timedoing that. So yeah, it was
very nice. And how about thetwo little boys that were coming down the
runway. It was great. Itwas so sweet. And watching everybody in
the audience, you know, allmy friends, all the families, everybody
there was really special. I willtell you one of my other favorite parts,
aside from you know, actually kissingmy wife and we became married.

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I loved our entrance and first dancepossibly one of the highlights. We come
out, mister and missus Webber andwe come out and they played Waiting for
Tonight. We had a great band. We come out, we start dance
saying our first song was James Taylor. How sweet it is and the funniest

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part the best part of the dance. Okay, my wife and we didn't
do a rehearse dance, but beforehandwe said, let's just practice one or
two quick moves. This first danceshould last thirty seconds and then they'll bring
everybody else onto the dance floor toslow dance with us. Right, so
we practiced one or two moves.Well, what happened was the band kept

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going. We didn't rehearse past acertain point. So I whispered to my
wife, I'm going rogue, andI pushed her to the side and I
start spinning around. I slide acrossthe dance floor. I'm taking my jacket
off. I'm doing this whole thing. Cringe worthy, cringe worthy. Oh,
it was amazing. Everybody started clappingand loving it. It was great.

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Let's continue what. I really lovedthe speeches. I love the speeches
for two reasons. One, andeverybody's already heard your speech. They heard
it in the show two weeks ago. What a great message, such heartfelt
lessons. I thought it was veryvery special. But number two, I

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really liked the audience's reaction to someof the comments that were made. There
were things that hit and people loved, and then there were things that shocked
people. Well, when your motherin law started, she just walked out
and she got applause like she wasChris Rock and she had a very partial

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audience. She got this crazy applauseI came out. It was almost silenced.
I mean, I got a niceone. But when I gave some
of my funniest lines, I thoughtit was amazing. No lefts oh,
well, I haven't told you this. I have something funny to say.
Do you remember the line in yourspeech about the fashion dudes and don'ts and

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you said guys who don't wear sockswith their dress shoes. Well, I
found it from my wife that oneof her friends, her fiance, looked
down he wasn't wearing sock, andhe goes, oh, hey, listen.
Well you know when I sent everybody, all your friends and relatives to
the Hilton, I said, whenthey weren't dressed, I said, you
belong at the Hilton. It's twodoors down. No, that was not

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a good line. I actually haveto say, not my favorite line.
I think that insulted a lot ofpeople, even though you were just playing
nice. I think people didn't quiteget it. I made it clear I'm
doing a radio show. I thoughtI was hysterical, And you know,
this is an interesting conversation in life, to thine own self be true.
I know that there were parts ofmy speech that the audience was silent,

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and it was some of those partsthat I enjoyed and thought were the best.
And I haven't had a second thoughtabout any of it. I wouldn't
do it any differently than I didit. I don't care whether they laughed
or whether they didn't laugh. Iknow I was on point, and I
don't care. Jared's wife, Na, did a speech that, in my
opinion, was one of the greatestspeeches I've ever heard in my life.

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And the message was that tonight,Haley, your wife, was joining a
club of exceptional web of women whocame before her. So she was able
to talk about my parents and Susie, your mom, and it was a
beautiful thing. And then when yourbrother did two parts to his speech,
the first part was roasting you andHaley silence. Haley and I were hysterically

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laughing. All of our friends werelaughing. There were people maybe who didn't
know us quite as well. Theydidn't know what to make of it.
I thought it was hysterical. Andthen the second half of the speech was
very heartfelt and very sweet. SoI thought all the speeches were great.
Well, the thing with the speeches, after all of a sudden done,
We're playing to a large audience.I was doing a radio show for the

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half of the first segment of myradio show, but those speeches were aimed
at you and your wife, andI can't care less what anyone else thought.
You enjoyed my speech. I didenjoy your speech. I thought it
was fantastic, and I told youthis right after the minute you stepped up
there in a giant room with twohundred people. You had such command over

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the room. I was shocked.You look like the president of the United
States. It was I couldn't explainthe presence that you had, and you
also looked fantastic in your tuxedo.I was very, very proud. The
idea of being front and center beingthe groom's father was an awkward thing for
me. It's just two woman cuddlyfor my style. Having said it,

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though, watching how happy you werethroughout the entirety of the wedding is what
made it for me. You know, I'm not a fan of humans,
so it doesn't matter. I'm goingto be uncomfortable in my acquired taste personality.
But you were happy from the beginningto the end. You couldn't wipe
the smile off your face. Itwas great to see you that happy,

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and that was the takeaway from meon the entirety of the wedding. Happiness.
Yeah, no, I had thetime of my life there was great.
And also maybe it was because ofCOVID or whatever. Hadn't had everybody
in the same room in a longtime, college friends, law school friends.
It was so nice to have everybodythere and people I haven't seen in
a long time. That helped too. So all of a sudden done,

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you were very happy with your wedding. I was very very happy with the
wedding. Thank you so much forhelping put all of that together. You're
welcome. I just love it.I'm glad you're back. I missed you.
I almost can accept the fact thatI'm now second string. Mister irrelevant
was relevant for this night only forthe fact that I was the father of

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the groom, and I enjoyed it. It was a great night. And
I'll never forget A son's a sonuntil he gets a wife. A father
is a father all his life.Take a break back in a minute.
Always in fashion. I've been shoppingfor fun lately, and while I'm out,
I always look at men's and Ilook at women's what's going on?

(45:55):
And I was particularly interested in dcand why because their sponsorship of the show.
I went downstairs at Macy's thirty fourthStreet to look around and I saw
a DKY active where And I promiseyou, ladies, it is sensational from
the sports braus to the crop tops, to the leggings and the sweats.
It really is a great look.And DC Andy had begun as an all

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American brand dressing casual clothes engines andthe stuff looks incredible and right now,
the colors and the styles is soexciting that I feel great about the company.
I always do. I wear themen's wear all the time. I've
had situations where I've gone to bigevents and been interviewed in TV or the
radio and someone comes up to methe microphone and like they always do,

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who you're wearing? And here Iam, this big shot with a big
company and they say, well,I'm wearing a DKY and they laugh and
say, no, you're not.Actually have one on the internet where you
could see me. They asked mewhat suit I'm wearing, and I say
Decay and open it up and there'sthe DCNY label. Great fashion. It
fits well it looks right. It'sdesigned to make you comfortable in the city,

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goes from day and to night.You can wear it in the morning,
wear in the afternoon, and youlook cool at night as well.
It's great for the office. Isgreat, Felisia. But I was talking
about the DCMY activewear. The firsttime I really became aware of Jesse and
I were up at Sirius Radio.He was doing a job for Serious He
does Dan Abrams show, he fillsin on the Potus Network and we're in

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the lobby and this hip hop groupcame up. Well, this really great
looking Latino singer girl Young beautiful,and she was wearing a dkm Y sports
bar and I said to myself,this is amazing. Actually went to Macy's
to see it, and I'm excitedabout the brand. And I'll tell you
what, ladies, DKY always hasgreat fashion for work, always wonderful dresses

(47:45):
and things that you'd wear. Theiraccessories are great, the shoes are always
very cool. But activewear in particularright now looks sensational and being that everyone's
affleisure in activewear, it's a greattime. DCMY go take a look.
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(48:29):
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Welcome back to Always in Fashion.Here's your host, Mark Webber.
I'm a father, I'm an acquiredtaste. I've had to make my own
friends. Literally, I made withthe help of my wife, of course,

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two boys who became my friends.It's hard to even say it.
My sons were incredibly close. Welisten to each other, we help each
other. I'm happy to see them. I'm happy to see what they've become.
I'm happy to see what their futurelooks like. I enjoy helping them

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with the issues, from their littleproblems when they're little boys to their bigger
problems as their bigger boys. Inthe end, it all comes down to
respect, listening, and loving themunconditionally. And tonight, my son Jesse
just got back from his marriage andhis honeymoon. I'm thrilled for him,
and I have been saying that Iunderstand moving from number one spot in his

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heart to number two and understanding that'sthe son is a son till he gets
a wife. But a father isa father all his life. Good Night,