Another Week In New York

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This show is produced and hosted byMark Webber. The show is sponsored by
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Who is Mark Webber. He's aself made business executive here to help you
find your success, from the NewYork City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in

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Paris. His global success story inthe luxury world of fashion is inspirational.
He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American
dream is alive. And well,here's your host of Always in Fashion,
Mark Webber. Mark Webber, NewYork City. It's a great city,

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the city of energy, a citythat never sleeps. The clubs, the
theater, of the restaurants, WallStreet, the financial district, opportunity for
anyone in the world. There's alwayssomething to do in New York City.
This plenty of great. But we'rea stupid city. It's dirty. But

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we've become a sanctuary city. Doesthat make sense. We're filled with migrants,
undocumented the people, illegal, immigrants, asylum seekers, call them what
you will. I'm sure there arenice people there. I'm sure there are
many, many good people, butwe're inundated. There's no place to put

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them. The streets are crowded.Their living in squalor. There's problems.
New York was already a city thatwas overcrowded. Drive through New York.
The lanes are blocked off. Youcan't get through, and if a sanitation
truck happens to appear, it'll holdup thousands of cars, blocking side streets,

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making motorists late and frustrated. Thenthere are the bicycles. What a
story. They're supposed to be asafe way to traverse the city. They
may be helping climate change with lessbusses, less cars, less strains needed.
How did that work out? Didanyone envision the electric bikes and creating

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new hazards. We're dodging electric rocketships every time we crossed the street,
yes, and also putting strains onthe electric grid. Thnsday is the issue
of crime. Crime is rampant.We can't be comfortable, we can't be
safe, and we're victims or predators. Politicians they're great at creating problems yet

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not solving them. That's our NewYork. But New York is still the
greatest city in the world. Iremember making lifelong enemies at the boardroom table
in France saying that to my Frenchcounterparts. They didn't like it one bit.
They called me out. They saidParis was the greatest city in the
world. I stand by it.Paris may be the most beautiful, it
can't be the best because there's NewYork City. As I say it,

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I have to admit I always believeduncategorically, with no reservation. My belief
was unconditional. There's no question whatI believe in this city. Hey,
there are other American cities who couldvie for the best. Good luck foreigners,
they can vie for the best.But let's be honest. Europe,
Paris, Rome, London, Milan, they got their own problems. The

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Far East is congested, overpopulated,air pollution, the worst tensions. They
got issues. The Mideast is makinga rebound. Money invested, new kingdoms
and rules always rules, but theyseem to be changing for the better.
I read that cities on Australia havethe worst pollution in the world. Go
figure Australia, No, I thinkabout it. New York City, with

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all of its down turns, isnot alone. The rest of the world
doesn't seem to be much better.The point is, that's another Saturday night,
another Sunday in New York, anotherexciting week. Our city's a mess,
but it's ours. So let's tonighttalk about another week in New York
City. Now, from a sportspoint of view, I've lost interest in

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the Yankees. That's shocking. Iwas so invested last year. I watched,
I taped every single game. Halfwaythrough the season, I realized there
was a lost cause they couldn't getarrested. They are a mess. What
happened to our Yankees? Can't watchhim? I did get excited about Aaron
Rodgers, the great One, joiningus with the Jets. A lot of

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hype, lot of hype that lastedfifteen minutes in playing time. He got
injured. The US Open came andwent, and I was amazing. Two
weeks in the city and now theworld's celebrities, the world's power brokers,
the world's press is descending on NewYork City. It's fashion Week. With
this, there's lots to talk about. Now joining me and exploring New York

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City another week as my lawyer,my son, my co host Jesse Webber
they're good to see you, goodto speak to you. Yeah, New
York City not the New York Citythat we knew before the pandemic. I'll
tell you that much. It's notas bad as it was, but it
is not good. Let me tellyou. Like sometimes remember that movie Escaped
from New York. That's what itkind of looks like. Yeah, and

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look. Not to be insensitive,not to be insendive, but one of
the big issues is the migrant crisisin the city. Did you know that
New York has a right to Shelterlaw? What does it mean? It
means that if you come to NewYork and you are in need of a
home, if you're needing shelter,if you're in need of food, new
York has the supply to you nochoice. New York is under an obligation

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to shelter and feed all these people. How did they get here? They're
transported here? Why is that?Because we're a sanctuary city. We're trying
to do good things at who's expense. By the way, I read an
article the other day that the policeare cutting back on overtime to pay for
the migrants. There's not enough moneyin the city budget and of course,

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our beloved mayor said we're in deeptrouble. Yeah, it's interesting you say
that because I can never find apolice officer after eight pm any night.
And then, by the way,the governor was talking about giving work authorizations
to the migrants. You like thatidea, giving them jobs. Yeah,
at the expense of other people thatI don't know. That's the question.
Are there enough jobs to go around? I believe in giving work to people.

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The more work you give people,the more dignity they'll have, the
better they feel about themselves. Andyes, I would support giving them work,
but I wonder whether or not thereare people looking for those same jobs
who can't find work now. Itseems to me there are more jobs than
people right now, but who knows. So that's my answer. They're trying
to figure out something because they realizehow much of how big of a disaster

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it is. And you feel badfor all the people who are sleeping out
in tents and everything. But ona different note, on a lighter note,
on a more positive note, forNew York City, New York was
the center because of the US Openand you mentioned the Open. I love
what we did on Sunday. Areyou and me. That was great.
I want to explain it. Sowe taped the final match between Djokovic and

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whoever Djokovic played, and we didn'twatch it live. We taped it.
You and I went out to dinnerat at a country club. We avoided
the television. It was all overthe television. We avoided people. You
know, we're gonna get spoiled here. People are gonna ruin for We completely
put like headphones on. We didn'tgo near anybody. We go home and
then we watched the final together ona big screen TV. I thought that

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was a great moment. That wasawesome. Wait, that was priceless.
But what happened when your wife cameback from her bridal shower. Yes,
this was not her finest moment.So we're sitting on the couch, we're
in the middle of the match.She first says to me, oh,
I just saw on Instagram who won? Shows It was posted forty five minutes

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ago. And when she said itto me, it was after Djokovic had
already won two sets. He onlyneeded to win one. More So,
the fact that she told me fortyfive minutes ago it was posted who won,
there was no way the other guycould win. So she basically ruined
the US Open for me, andthen she ruined it for you. Well,

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if you told her, why wouldshe tell me? I don't know.
I don't know. I don't knoweither, Jesse. I think I
told her. She's banned from talkingsports in this family, and she's not
the first one. I don't wantto hear anything. They don't know how
it works. Why ruin it?It was still great and we did the
right thing, and I'm glad.But you know what ruined the Open for

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me more than anything? What's that? The clothes? You mean the way
people were dressed or the way theplayers were dressed. No, the people
there were the mutants, and theywere well dressed. It was divided,
maybe fifty fifty. There were peoplewho knew how to dressed the people who
didn't. But no, the fashionat the Open, the professionals, the
clothes, the uniforms that they werewere horrendous. Carlos Alcaraz was wearing no

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sleeves cut off at the armholes.It was like terrible looking and print with
shorts that didn't match. And shewas he was terrible. The women's dresses
were so frumpy, so unpleasant,so ugly, and again and strange colors.
None of them looked good. CocoGough, amazing player, determined,

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zeroed in beat the number two seed. Her outfit was horrendous. Djokovic every
day wore these colors that weren't normalto humankind. They were blues that nobody
would choose that color. The lastday he picked a decent blue, but
everything looked horrendously bad. Other senseof the mean, it's better at Wimbledon.
All they do is wear white orversions of outfits and white. Maybe

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that's the case. But the fashionat the US Open was terrible. By
the way, it's funny that yousay that, because you and Jared we're
all over the US Open on thejumbo troum, not once, but a
million times. Everybody saw you guyson television. I was getting tons of

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messages on social media, text messagesof you guys. Everybody saw you too.
It might have been the way thatyou guys looked, and maybe you
were dressed. The camera kept panningto you. I think it was the
white dress shirts, kind of thesophisticated look. Maybe they saw you as
like a father and son duo,the casual elegant, the long hair.
I don't know, but the camerakept panning on you. Guys, just

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goes to show you. You gota lot of texts. Jared got a
lot of texts. I got none. It reinforces I used to be important.
I'm not anymore talking about important.This is funny. Did I tell
you about the sightings? The sightings? What do you mean the sightings?
So Jared and I are shopping aroundin the US Open boutique and three guys

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come over to me. They lookedof Indian descent. The one who was
the Olsen for the three says Iknow you. And I looked at him
and I said I don't think sohe says I know you, and I
didn't think twice as I'm sorry,I don't know you. And the three
of them walked away. And youknow what, they said, you're Jesse
Webber's father. No, not quite. They walked away and talked to each

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other. That's Ralph Lauren. Andtwo seconds later some other guy, American
guy and his wife come up andthey said to me, it's great seeing
you shop in your own store.Two people thought it was Ralph Lauren.
Now I would trade Ralph Lauren forhis money. I would trade him for

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success. I would trade him forthe brain power that he put. But
he's twenty years old. To me, I could do without that. And
by the way, do I lookas old as Ralph Lauren? No?
No, no, no, nono no. And you're also taller than
him, by the way, Yeah, that goes without saying. But these
people don't know. But anyway,I was spotted as Ralph Lauren. Maybe
that's why they kept coming to Jaredand I on TV. Anyway, I

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made me think of that. Itwas an amazing night. I had a
great time in Queens. Enough ofQueens will take a break when we get
back Paris, Egypt, the restof the world, of course, with
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I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but I can appreciate it, and
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What are you doing when you're athome? What are you wearing to the
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much I enjoy this brand. Welcomeback to Always in Fashion. Here's your
host, Mark Webber. Another weekin New York. So much is going
on. I love New York,the greatest city in the world. So
much is going on. It's exciting. Is fashion Week. The entire world
is conversing and it's descending on NewYork City and we're showing our best,

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or are we? It is insanehow crowded the city is. Used to
take me in traffic an hour aroundfifteen minutes to get into New York,
it's now at least two hours.Crossing town is impossible by car. Now
it's amazing. But you know youhave to figure all those bicycles, all
those electric bikes, all the carsnow, the ubers, the lifts,

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everything going on with the fear ofthe subway. A lot more vehicles in
New York City. But you knowwhat I'm concerned about with the crowding COVID.
We're not alone. Oh you're talkingabout aliens? Do you think there
are aliens living amongst us? Soyou think they're so peculiar that we don't
even know? Or do you don'tbelieve in it? I've met a number

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of people who I thought are aliens, and I bet you a lot of
people think that you're an alien becauseyou're an acquired taste. Do I believe
that they're aliens? Absolutely? Butdo I think that they're living among us?
Maybe I'll tell you what I don'tbelieve. Did you see this past
week? I think it was inMexico in front of the Mexican Congress.
They showed these mummified bodies of whatthey say are aliens. Did you see

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that? I did. I don'tbelieve it for one second. I think
that is totally fake. Why theguy who introduced these mummified bodies to the
Mexican Congress, he's already been knownfor false claims before, and they said
that these could actually be It's disturbingthat think about these could be children that

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were wrapped up years ago, andthe way they're wrapped up elongates their faces
and distorts the body. I justcan't believe if you think about it like
this, right, all the alienmovies that we've had, the aliens look
like these mummified bodies. So howdid the filmmakers know that? How did
we know what aliens would look like? Did someone see these bodies or is

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it someone crafted these bodies to makeit look like what we already think aliens
look like. Well as the restof the world say he's out of place
and it's nonsense, I don't know. I haven't been following. It hasn't
been on the news, which issurprising. Yeah, you would think if
they found real aliens, the worldwould go wacko. But bottom line,
I don't think they're really either.I don't think they're living amongst us.

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But there is enough going on thatone has to wonder whether we have I
love the world's out there with lifeon them. It seems to be the
leading towards that, and I thinkwe're going to get there. Oh,
I don't want to talk about thisanymore. I want to talk about bicycles.
But before I go to bicycles,I want to talk about the driveway.
The other day, you talk aboutspotting before we ran into someone we

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knew and he started to talk tous about listening to the show. He
said he was in WRS in hiscar and all of a sudden by accident
and he's driving and he hears youand I now and we know this guy,
and it bothers me. How manypeople we know don't listen to the
show. But this guy said,I couldn't believe how great the show was.
You two are amazing. Got meexcited. And just to amplify that

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a little bit, he's an exampleof somebody who doesn't even know we have
a show. He didn't even know. Yeah, maybe I don't scream about
it enough. Maybe you know whenyou guys kicked me. Every time I
meet someone, I asked them,if they listen to our show, you
don't like it, but too bad. Maybe that's the way I have to
do it, one by one,million by million people. But it excited
me more than anything was the driveway, because this is a reoccurring theme of

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our show. Let me explain whatthe driveway is so people can understand what
it means. We have gotten commentsbefore that when people are driving in their
car and listening to us live oneither Saturday or Sunday nights, which is
our understanding. A lot of peopledo, and they pull into their home
and they have to go in fordinner or go to sleep or whatever it
is, but they want to hearthe rest of the show. So instead

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they stay in the car in thedriveway and they wait for the show to
end. They want to hear therest of it. And that's what this
guy said to us, and Iloved it, So I guess that's a
great thing in the midst of allmy complaining. But that's the one I
want to talk about. I wantto talk about bicycles. New York City
is suffering from unintended consequences. Someonehad the bright idea. I'm going to

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give them credit for the idea toinstall these bike racks, make them easily
accessible. You stick your credit cardin, you pay for the bike as
you drive, when you deposit thebike, and park it wherever else there's
a bike rack in this city.Your totals get totaled up. And it
was a very very convenient way totry and move people in New York.

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Those people who don't want to walk, I don't understand walking is healthy.
But let's say you want the speedof the bike or to stop driving,
stop taking cabs, stop using gasoline. Great idea, but unintended consequences.
I'll come back to that in asecond. I want to talk about intended
consequences. You know, it isfashion Week and I was very excited whenever

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we were doing DK and why fashionadvertising because Donna Karen New York dk N
Why Donna Karen New York was alwaysabout New York and all of Donna Karen
New York in advertising would take placein the city. It was the DNA
of the brand. It was thelife brother of the brand. This is
who we are where Donna Karen NewYork. This is a statement on New

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York. And one particular spring season, the clothes had a lot of orange
in them. They were bright,they were fun, they were active,
the women's clothes, the men's clothes, and the people working on the advertising
decided to put people driving in NewYork on bicycles, three women together,
a guy and a girl. Itwas very, very clever, and they
painted bikes orange so they matched theclothes. And it instantly hit me how

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Energetica was clever. It wasn't striking. And I said to the marketing team,
here's what I want to do.I want you to go out immediately
by fifty bikes. I want youto have them painted orange, and I
want you to go to the coolestareas in New York City and put the
bikes, attach them to fire hydrants, attach them to street signs, buy

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locks and chains and do it.Somebody wants the bike, they have to
cut the lock and make sure youhave the DKM y logo on. Anybody
gets angry at us, they wantto give us a fine, so be
it will pay the fine. Butlike this, we're gonna put our name.
It'll tie back into our advertised theorange. We'll catch their attention.
And what a great great marketing vehicleor three sixty vehicle that we are doing.

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The advertising it includes the bikes.The bikes are all over New York
City. People are talking about thecops may be upset about it. A
people are stealing them. They're takinghim home and they'll be driving DKM.
I thought it was a brilliant ideaexcept for the unintended consequence. And I
don't mean people getting mad. Idon't mean it was an inconvenience. I
don't even mean that it was stolen. You know what goes on with these

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bikes Jesse, aside from them beingannoying. Now do you know what a
white bike in New York City means? Now? Oh, interesting, I
didn't know. You didn't know thatwe ever talked about this. There are
a lot of people who die ridingbikes in New York City, and as
a testament to them and is partof their bereavement, there is a group

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that paints bikes white and puts themon the sites where the people got hit
or died riding a bicycle in thecity. That's a nice gesture, yes,
but they took it as a personalaffront that we were putting bikes in
the city and doing technically what theywere doing. So, as good corporate

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citizens and students of American justice andwhat's right from wrong, we had to
remove all the bicycles. And itjust shows you how in life, if
you don't think things through, ifyou don't do your homework, you don't
do your work, bad things canhappen unintended consequences. But in all fairness,
could you have predicted that? Ofcourse not. Who knew that.

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You would think someone in the companywould have known it, but nobody did.
But let's not where I'm going.I am going to unintended consequences because
motorized bikes are all over the citynow. I said it earlier, the
little rocket ships. They are flyingdown the streets. They're in the bike

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lanes that would decide for pedestrians whowere driving bikes. And now they're moving
at ten miles an hour, twentymiles an hour, thirty they're fastest.
Hell, they have big engines inthem. They're all electrified, so being
charged, they're using up the grid. It's not the idea that was intended
here. And all of a sudden, these bicycles are zooming past, and
I am sure why I don't hearabout people got a beginning hurt just to

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be you cross the street, youlook one way, you saw if the
cars were coming and you cross.Used to be if you've got a green
light, you know you could crossthe street. Not anymore, because there
is no regulations associated with these bikes. There's no speed rules, there's no
stopping and starting rules, there's nolicensing route. Any mutant can get one.

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There are hundreds or thousands of tenthousands of them, and they're flying
down the streets causing all kinds ofproblems and our genius politicians never anticipated what
would happen once we started creating allthese bike lanes and creating bike accessibility.
Have you ever experienced any almost eventswith these bikes, Jesse. I've seen

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the bikes go on the sidewalks,going between people. Yeah, what's that
about. I don't think that's aloud. I haven't checked the law on
that, but I can't imagine that'sallowed. If the police are not arresting
people for theft, if the policeare not arresting people for the terrible things
that go on, you think they'regonna bother with bicycles, and by the
way, how they're gonna catch them. They're flying, by the way.

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I think the ones that I've seenhave been delivery drivers, you know like
seamless caviare Uber eats, the onesthat are trying to get to their delivery
fast. That's when I see themcutting corners, are cutting through people.
Well, it's become very dangerous.It's another thing in New York City that
makes me nauseous. It's another examplehow politics and politicians seem to create problems,

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not solve them. And between ourgreat New York mayor, has he
said anything about these rocket ships flyingaround our city. I have not heard
anything. Oh and before I getoff our wonderful politicians, I can't stop
without talking about Schumer or the governorwho's ever responsible for not supplying bags and

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stores anymore? Now all of as and you have to shop. You
have to bring your own bags,you have to buy bags. This is
crazy. You can go into aclothing store by ten items, you have
to carry them out under your armsunless you pay for bags. All they
did was make it uncomfortable for consumers, and they had expense, and nobody
says a word. Good job Schuma, Good job Kathy Hulkel, and good

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job Eric Adams. You're really reallyimpressive in New York City, and I
want to thank you for being asanctuary city without a plan on what to
do with the people seeking sanctuary.Take a minute and we'll be back to
talk about some pleasant things in ourgreat city, New York City. Always
in fashion, spent a lifetime ofmy career building the van usen Brand,

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and I am so pleased that they'reback with us now talking about suits.
Men, we're dressing up again,and it's become cool to wear a suit.
Suits can be one on multiple occasionsin multiple ways. You could wear
a suit formally to go out atnight or to an event, to wear
a suit to the office with orwithout a tie. If you look closely,
now fashion trends, suits are beingworn with turtlenecks or mocknecks. The

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choices are endless and every one ofthem looks right. You can really really
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the whole IDEA year of dressing up. Let's not forget van Usson made its
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Penny or online at JC penney dotcom. Guys, they're great. You
should go look at them. Welcomeback to Always in Fashion. Here's your

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host, Mark Webber. To theworld, to the fashion press, to
the buyers of retail stores here andaround the world, to all the models,
to all the actresses and actors,to all the who's, who's anyone
who matters. Welcome to New YorkCity. This is Fashion Week. It's
been so far amazing. I usedto love fashion Week when I was important.

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When I used to matter, Iloved fashion Week. Now nobody cares.
When I used to be important,I was involved in runway shows,
and I'm at PVH. Philipson usingwe buy Calvin Klein. The tenure of
the company changed. We went fromone of the world's great shirt companies that
made a lot of money but wasnot exciting. It wasn't energized. Now,

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if I owned a company, myCEO at the time, or I
is CEO to our owned the company, we would have been billionaires. The
company made a ton of money.It was a great company, just didn't
grow. It didn't have the engineto grow the way other companies was supposed
to grow if you're on Wall Street. So as a public company, we
were good but not great. Webought Calvin Klein. The idea was to

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create a transforming transaction that would takeus from a company that grew at a
slow pace to rapid growth. AndCalvin Klein was exactly what we needed and
we did that. The minute webought it, Wall Street looked at us
differently. Our stocks started to appreciatedramatically. The excitement for us, though,

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is we never had been in thatkind of design of business. And
the first runway show that was goingto be held during the due diligence process,
Calvin put on a runway show.It was extraordinary for women, extraordinary,
great press, all the people inthe world. We got seats that
were good, not front row.We weren't calling attention to the fact we
were buying the company. We satthere and watched it. We loved every

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part of it. And when Calvintook the bow at the end of the
show is extraordinary. We buy thecompany and this is what's going on.
We have the next runway show inMilan. Calvin Klein had a palazzo a
compound in Milan, and everyone inMilan will be at Calvin Klein because not
only will we have our runway showthe evening of our show, the place

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to be in Milan is Calvin Klein'scompound because the jeans company throws a party.
Twelve hundred people came to that party. It was amazing. But that's
when the day before Calvin dropped abomb show and told us that he's no
longer going to be the front manfor our runway shows. He won't stand
up and walk the show and takethe bow at the end. What do

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you mean? He said, Guys, haven't you noticed the designers are on
their own now. We trained themwell, they really don't want to hear
what I have to say. They'llpolitely listen, but they don't take my
direction any longer. I can't standup and take credit for work that isn't
mine. We were devastated. Imean, we just bought the company.
We're figuring. You know, CalvinKlein, his front man, no changes.

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This will be amazing, but hewouldn't do it. And he said
to us, here's what we'll do, the three of us. This was
my boss was CEO. I'm thepresident and Calvin would be off to the
side. When Francisco would walk downthe runway and be the fact that Calvin
was standing there, it would showthat we're still involved. He's involved,

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and he's passing the torch to FrancescoCosta. We were panicked by it,
but it worked, and it wasmy first experience of runway shows. As
time would go on, I wouldbe involved in other designer companies at LVMH
and Company. I was front andcenter at Louis Vuitton's runway show in Paris.
I loved it. I have beeninvited to all the Mark Jacobs shows

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and that company are beyond belief howclever they are. But I had my
own responsibilities in running the Donna KaranCollection runway show and of course the DKNY
shows nothing short of amazing. Andwhen I said you used to be important,
believe me, at those shows,I was important myself. There were
people from LVMH to a front rowat every one of those shows, sitting

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amongst all the celebrities enjoying the show. Now, what is a runway show,
Jesse? What's a purpose of arunway show? Purpose of the runway
show is to promote the collection forthe new season. In theory, yes,
that's as simple as you could sayit. Who's invited to the Runway
show. Buyers from all over theworld, the press from all over the

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world, all the buyers and pressfrom the United States, And of course
the idea is if you have Bloomingdale'sor Sacks or Nieman's or the finest websites
in the world that come in it'sa front row or first and second row
in your show. They see theproduct, they get excited, and during
the week after the Runway shows,the buyers go to your showrooms to start

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purchasing. And no question, thatwas ultimately the number two most important thing
that Runway shows do, but thenumber one reason you stage a show the
fashion press around the world. Canyou imagine all the activity when some of
the most famous actors or actresses arewearing your product at the Runway show boom.

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The entire international press jumps all overand starts talking about who wore what
when, who is at what show? And it spirals from New York to
Milan, to Paris to Rome,the entire world. Seize the effects of
your Runway show. If you askme, I never thought about how to
spend two million dollars in fifteen minutes. But what you can you can spend

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two million dollars in fifteen or twentyminutes, is what we would spend as
a designer. Some of the bigdesigners, you know, some of the
global like Door or Fendor, someof the Europeans will spell far in excess
of that building of their sets fortunesbecause luxury brands, designer brands are built
with image and prestige, and theytake these messages around the world. And

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that's what's taking place in New Yorkright now. Big and small, famous
and not famous are all gathered hereshowing their wares to people around the world
to build their brand, to buildtheir cachet. For the end result to
sell more products at regular price tothe most prestigious retailers in the world and

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sell them quickly and rapidly so youcan make the most money having these brands.
And my experience firsthand with managing CalvinClient and managing Donna Karen was priceless
and I'd loved it. Let meask you, do you think that a
runway show is necessary? Like doyou think that if you didn't have one,
the company would still do well,you'd still sell the same amount of

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product, how necessary as a runwayshow. Great question, and I'll answer
you this way. There are thingsin life and in business that are nice
to do. There are things inlife and the business that you should do,
and then there are things in lifeand business that you must do.

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Now the question you're asking, mustyou have a runway show? No?
Should you? If you're a goodcompany and you'll have a designer brand.
Absolutely. The Europeans believe in them. The luxury companies believe that they have
to behave as luxury companies, andthat's an important part of it. This
is the way they build luxury brands. In reality, it's nice to do.

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For some. It elevates brands,It makes them look more important than
they are. Should you do it? If you're a designer brand like Done
a Care Okay? Absolutely? Mustyou do it? No, unless,
of course you're do your Orfendi orGucci or what have you. But either
way, when those brands are thatstrong, they'd be fine without it.

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But people in the know believe that'sthe way to behave. I miss them,
that's for sure. I miss them. Having said that, Welcome to
New York. It's a big weekthis week in New York City, back
in a moment. Always in fashion. I've been shopping for fun lately,
and while I'm out, I alwayslook at men's and I look at women's
what's going on? And I wasparticularly interested in Decamy because of their sponsorship

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of the show. I went downstairsat Macy's thirty fourth Street to look around
and I saw dekmy active where AndI promise you, ladies, it is
sensational, from the sports braus tothe crop tops, to the leggings and
the sweats. It really is agreat look. And dk Andy had begun
as an all American brand dressing casualclothes engines, and the stuff looks incredible

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and right now the colors and thestyles is so exciting that I feel great
about the company. I always do. I wear the men's wear all the
time. I've had situations where I'vegone to big events and been interviewed in
TV or the radio and someone comesup to me and the microphone and like
they always do, who you're wearing? And here I am, this big

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shot with big company and they say, well, I'm wearing a DKY and
they laugh and say, no,you're not. Actually have one on the
internet where you could see me.They asked me what suit I'm wearing,
and I say DC and Y andopen it up and there's the dk andy
label. Great fashion, it fitswell, it looks right. It's designed
to make you comfortable in the city, goes from day in to night.
You can wear it in the morning, wear in the afternoon, and you

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look cool at night as well.It's great for the office as great Felisia.
But I'm talking about the DKNY activewhere the first time I really became
aware of it, Jesse and Iwere up at Serious Radio. He was
doing a job for Serious he doesDan Abrams show, he fills in on
the Potus Network and we're in thelobby and this hip hop group came up.
Well, this really great looking Latinosinger girl young, beautiful, and

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she's wearing a dk and Y sportsbar and I said to myself, this
is amazing. Actually went to Macy'sto see it, and I'm excited about
the brand. And I'll tell youwhat, ladies, dk Y always has
great fashion for work, always wonderfuldresses and things that you'd wear. Their
accessories are great. The shoes arealways very cool. But activewear in particular

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right now looks sensational and being thateveryone's athleisure in activewear, it's a great
time dk Andy go take a look. As one of the world's most celebrated
fashion designers, car Lagafeld was renownedfor his aspirational and cutting edge approach to
style. His unique vision of Parisianship comes to America through Carlagafeld Paris.
He has women's collections, men's collections, ready to wear, accessory, shoes

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and bags. The fashion house CarlAgafeld also offers a range of watches.
I wearing premium fragrances. You canexplore the Carlgafelle collection at Carlogafel Paris dot
com. But it's more than that. I, for one, love to
shop. I love going around andseeing what's happening and what catches my attention,
what would make me feel good towear now. I don't wear the

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women's wear obviously, but I canappreciate it and they look amazing. If
you want to look right, youwant to have clothes that fits you well.
You want to look like you're wearingsomething that's very expensive, that's exclusive
for you and yours. You canfind it at very affordable prices at Macy's.
Socarlogafel dot com Paris. The women'sready to wear fashion is extraordinary,

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as well as the handbags and theshoes. If one wear men's clothes,
and unlike my appreciation of women's clothes, I'm a modern guy. I want
to look current, I want tolook the way I want to feel.
I go out at night, I'min black and Carlagafeld is my buddy.
Clothes are great, The fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches,
whether it's a stripe on the sleeveor button at the neck or on

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the shoulder. There's a lot ofdetails that go into Carlagafel because he's always
been, he always had been oneof the world's great designers, and this
legacy and goes on and on.I can't speak enough about it except to
say to you, you want tofeel good about yourself. You want to
know that you're dressing properly. Youwant clothes that fits you well. Carl
Lagafeld Paris at Macy's or Carlgafel dotcom. Welcome back to Always in Fashion.

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Here's your host, Mark Webber.I love New York. I love
Florida of California in the winter.But it's September. I'm not there yet.
But New York is arguably one ofthe greatest cities in the world,
one of the most exciting cities inthe world. And past couple of weeks

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I've been talking about New York becauseit deserves to be. This week is
all about fashion. It's Fashion Weekin New York last week, two weeks
whether the US opens. It's agreat time to be in New York.
But it got me thinking, Ihave always done for my children. I
used to be important. I'm notnow. I told you about it all

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the time. It's hard getting usedto it. I don't rate anymore.
Aside from the fact that I'm onthe radio and my list just seemed to
really love this show. I don'thave enough of them. I want to
be millions. We're not millions.But that's another story. There's an element
of the show that I'm always givingadvice. It's career advice. It says
it in the beginning, I wantto talk to you about reading. As

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luck would have it. When Iwas thirteen years old, I got pneumonia.
Now why would I say as luckwould have it? Well during pneumonia,
other than not feeling all that well, other than being home for three
months, I had to find somethingto occupy my time, even though it's
young. I fell in love withwhat was then called million Dollar Movie,

(42:59):
and every day million Dollar Movie wouldhave old movies James Cagney, Humphrey Bogott,
and I became a quasi expert asa kid in those movies. I
saw them all multiple times, andI loved watching those movies to this day,
when the right ones on TV,I look forward to it and I
remember it. But what else happenedwhile I was sick? I became an

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avid reader. I was too youngfor most novels, but I was mature
enough to be able to read them. And I started reading everything, and
I discovered a whole lot of writers, Stephen Coonts, who I loved,
Vince Flynn later on in life.I found these writers and these stories would

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transpose me. The great thing aboutreading it took you to different places.
It told you stories you would neverhear. It broadened your expertise on the
world with the definitions and explanations ofpeople in places. I am telling you
that reading changed my life. Itmade it more interesting. It gave me

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something to do, It made memore worldly, and it made me more
interesting. And I want to fastforward many years later. I want to
take you to business. In mybusiness, Womenswear Daily was the bible.
If you were a Who's Who,or you wanted to be a whose who
in business, you had a lookat Womenswear Daily. And I used to

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study the people I work with andwork for and worked alongside to see whether
or not they would read that newspaperevery day. And I would see many
of them would have them newspapers stackedup on their inbox. I knew my
boss would peruse the headlines and theones that interested in me, he digging.

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I also knew that if I readit cover to cover, I would
have a leg up on everyone else, and I did. There was another
newspaper, DNR Daily News Record.A Daily News Record was the weak brother
the Women's Wear Daily. It wasthe men's Trade. And once again I

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walked around the company and watched theDNR pile up, and I read it
cover to cover. And I didn'tstop there. I read every Fortune magazine,
every Forbes magazine, every single Businessinc. New Yorker, everything that
I could read to make me moreinteresting and have more knowledge than everyone else.

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And I can tell you my bosswas ten times smarter than me,
even if he wasn't because he wasmy boss, he was exposed to more
things going on in the company,so he was always a step ahead of
me. My reading clothes the gap. So my advice to any of you
out there, the more you read, the more you have a chance to

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enhance your life and to be betterat what you do. Now, I've
always exposed my children to everything,and as time goes on, as I
become less important, they're becoming moreand more important. And on the subject
of reading, this week, Jessemade something happen for me, one of

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the most exciting things that's happened forme in a long time. One of
the greatest writers of all time,Nelson DeMille. I started reading his books
probably thirty years ago when he startedwriting them. I've read I think every
single one he's written since he wasfamous as Nelson de Ville. Jesse is
going to Crime Con in Orlando.He's going to be one of the guest

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hosts. He's going to be ona panel, he's going to be running
a lot of things there and He'sgoing to be interviewing Nelson DeMille, and
this week Jesse arranged I get toknow you conference call between the managing people
of the event, between the publisherNelson Demil and his son Alex Demil,

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and Jesse's going to be interviewing him. I was on the Zoom call,
so my children are paying benefits.They are now arranging those things because they're
important, even though I'm not Jesse. I said it. Then I say,
now, I can't tell you howexcited I am. So I've been
part of that Zoom call and tookthe Nelson Demill directly. That made me
so happy. You've done so manythings in your career, given us so

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many perks, things to go tojust amazing. So this is something that
I was able to do for you. It made me very happy. And
watching your face, you had asmile on the entire hour, and he
was very gracious. Him and hisson. I think they were surprised to
the depth of knowledge I had inhis books, don't you think. Yeah?
I think they were surprised at bothof us, because there's one thing
to be like, oh I'm ahuge fan, but where we're describing details

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of certain interactions in the book andcertain characters and exchanges. They were like,
Oh, these guys are the realdeal. They've been following they know
exactly what we're talking about. It'scalled crime. Come yeah, what is
it actually? So this is amassive event. They're expecting over five thousand
people. People are interested in truecrime. There's going to be different panelists,

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different podcasts, different presentations, differentshows. They present their materials to
the audience, they hold special talks, they have special guests, and it's
a three day affair. It's athree day convention and what gets you there?
So I was invited through Law onCrime. I host a podcast called
the Sidebar Podcast, and we arepresenting we are actually doing a live recording

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of our Sidebar podcast in front ofan audience of about seven hundred people.
I am also going to be oneof the presenters at the Clue Awards.
It's like the Oscars for true crime. And then, like you said,
I'm going to be interviewing Nelson andAlex Demil for a special presentation. And
I'm also promoting Prime Crime, whichis my show that I host an executive

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produce through Law and Crime. It'sa true crime documentary show. It's on
YouTube, Facebook, NBC's Peacock toBe so it's I'm gonna be promoting that
as well. So anyway, Ilove meeting those two guys. Keep getting
more and more important. I likebeing exposed to stuff. It's great,
makes us more interesting. But itall comes down to, as I said

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before, I want to wrap thisup again talking about reading. You can
improve your career. You can besmarter than the next guy or gal next
to you. You could be smarterthan your boss if you get engaged in
reading, and you'll improve your life. It's so interesting. There's so many
wonderful things that come from getting smarter, getting exposed, being more worldly,

(49:45):
being more interesting. And if thatdoesn't do it for you guys out there
or you girls. When I wasnineteen years old first started driving, I
used to keep a book in mycar was called The Profit by Hill Gabron,
very well known book at the timeabout this author who had principles on

(50:07):
life. Put that book on yourdashboard or on your console. You're not
going home alone at night, guys, And now and then I'm older,
put always in fashion in the car. And boy, the women or the
men, they can't control themselves.Ten million people in New York. Nobody
should have to go home alone.Listen, this is arguably one of the

(50:30):
greatest cities in the world. Wecould debate that with anyone. Bring them
on. I'm ready. This isa great city until it's not. It
needs to be protected from ourselves.I'm told thirty eight percent of the people
in New York still believe there shouldn'tbe a wall. What are you talking
about. Listen, Liberals, youcould be smart. Republicans you can have

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a heart. Are politicians they needto be held accountable. We have to
stop voting for idiots, people whodon't have our best interests at heart.
A great city, we need toprotect it. I hope you enjoyed another
week in New York, and Ihope you've enjoyed our show to night.
Good night,