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June 22, 2020 3 mins
Asked about The Black Lives Matter's ideology, one of the group's co-founders, Patisse Cullors, stated that she was a "trained Marxists", a fact that may be lost on many of those who have recently protested the wake of George Floyd's death.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here is a podcast in which the co founder of
BLM is talking to UM, a communist about the Black
Lives Matter movement, and it's a it's a bit rambling
his question, but he's trying to clarify. Look, are you
guys just about color at this point or you still
down with our principles? And here's how it went. How

(00:21):
do you respond to that particular critique, again, a loving
critique from an elder of the struggle that some others share,
that I've even shared as well, to be frank as
a concern about UH in part because of the cooptation
and the appropriation that that a more clear ideological structuring
might be of some value here. But how do you

(00:41):
respond to to to those kinds of again loving criticisms. UM.
I think that the criticism is helpful. UM. I also
think that it might UM. I think of a lot
of things. The first thing I think is that we
actually do have an ideological frame umself and at LEASTIA
in particular trained organizers. UM. We are trained Marxists. UM.

(01:08):
We are super h versed on sort of ideological theories.
We are trained Marxists. When was the last time you
heard CNN mentioned that again, not about the notion that
black lives matter, but the organization. They are radicals, they're Marxists,

(01:31):
They're intent on the tearing down of the capitalist system.
They are anti nuclear family. This gal is a queer
activist or whatever that matters. She's way down the lefty
road of LGBT rights, And frankly, I don't I don't
spend a lot of time thinking about that because I
love everybody, UM, and I don't care what you do
with your life as long as you know you're not
influencing children to do stuff that they otherwise wouldn't. UM.

(01:56):
But I think it's worth observing that the whole point
of a lot of the revolutionary theory of you know,
a kind of the communist area, but especially in the
sixties and seventies, was that we must overwhelm the system,
we must drive it into the ground and ruin it
and then build our our Marxist utopian deconstruction. And they're

(02:19):
using you know, Mark or I'm sorry Stalin? Was it
Stalin who referred to the useful idiots? A lot of
the nice folks marching in the street, black, white, Hispanic,
Asian everybody thinks that the organizers of these marches just
want racial justice for black people. And they may well

(02:42):
want racial justice for black people, but she made a
clear look, no, we're we're still down with the cause.
We're trained Marxists, were working to bring the Marxist Revolution,
and I guarantee you lots of the nice, earnest white
people in the street have no frigging idea that that's
part of what's anime doing this. Barn Strong and Jetty
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