A&G On Demand Thursday June 18 Hour 2

A&G On Demand Thursday June 18 Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
How to deal with masked me, among other important things
will be dealing with this hour. I'm sorry, did you
just make up a word mask me? It's like acne,
but it's a skin irritation due to wearing your mask
all the time, so they call it mask me. I
think you're tracking mask I think you're tracking with I don't.
I don't like that. Um As masks become, it looks

(00:40):
like even more more prevalent around the country. UM More
on that later. Also, a Supreme Court opinion has just
come out on young undocumented immigrants. I'm seeing breaking news
banners around on my phone and stuff like that. I
haven't had a chance to look at what that is. Yeah,
I'm trying to go to the places that actually know
what they're taught thinking about it, because virtually everything you

(01:02):
hear for the next forty minutes or so on mainstream
media will be incorrect or badly interpreted. We will have
to dip back into the Joe Biden came out of
his spiky hole yesterday and did a little talking and
we'll see how that went. Thank you, Oh boy, I'm
telling you that has an emotional effect on me. Hearing

(01:25):
that you're hearing a man who is near the end.
Thank you, thank you. He can barely get his breath out.
Check him for the COVID. Oh, that reminds me. We
got a note from a bloke in Phoenix. Where is
it there? It is, I'll just keep him anonymous. You
had to do some flying and uh. And he flew

(01:47):
back and forth um from Phoenix to Salt Lake City,
and not long after he starts feeling sicker than he's
ever felt. And while his email is ridiculously long al
cheese three full pages, he describes the drama of trying
to get a COVID test and he's he's trying to

(02:10):
deal with his county, he's trying to deal with the
CVS that is allegedly allegedly doing tests, and his efforts
to to just line up a test going for hours,
days and he's getting the run around. Finally shows up
at the CVS. It's empty, there's nobody there, but they
say you have to have an appointment. It's like, well,
can you just do me now you're didn't. Now you've

(02:32):
gotta make an appointment. So he tries to make an
appointment and they say and and then he gets kicked
out of the system and he goes back and they say, yeah,
the system is not working, and it was just it
was like your your worst government healthcare nightmare. You can't
go to the doctor. I thought they were. I thought
if you had symptoms, they would like run you to
the tests. I don't think that's enough to depend a

(02:52):
pretty solid email. I think he would be able to
exploit the uh, you know the opportunities that are out there. Um,
but it sounds like a nightmare to me. Other places
you just drive up, I guess. Um. There was an
attempt in the city of Portland to get a chairs
going apparently late last night and early this morning, and

(03:13):
it was broken up quickly by authorities, even in Portland
because I think they realized if you if they if
they get a toe hold, then it's just it's a
nightmare and we don't want to deal with that, even
if we agree with some of their stuff, that'd be
my guess. Uh, you just you just don't want what
Seattle is dealing with. And so it was broken up
very quickly into Portland doesn't at least as of now,

(03:34):
has no chairs. Wow, but they still have a chairs
Where Chaz exists in Seattle, it is Chaz, it's somewhat
surprising that that Portland would move so swiftly. Could it
be that they witnessed Freeattle's descent into psychosis? And even
the way lefties who were in Portland said, that's a
bridge too far. We don't have autonomous zones in Portland.

(03:58):
We have ten cities and crazy people in bums shooting
up on corners, stopping traffic regularly, and we let them
get away with it, right right, But that that would
be too much apparently, well, okay, that's fine. I mean,
I prefer they are even less crazy than they are
because I love Portland. But um, anyway, that's an interesting development.
So according to our friends at Scotus blog, uh docca oh,

(04:26):
the majority said The majority of the Supreme Court said
the decision to determine to terminate DOCCA was arbitrary and
capricious because the Acting Secretary's decision to terminate the program
discussed the legality of the benefits associated with DOCCA, but
didn't discuss forbearance the decision to defer removal or whether
there was legitimate reliance on the DOCCA memory blah blah blah. Legally,

(04:48):
so this DOCCA stands for now and what is its
current situation. It's uh, you don't get deported if you
were brought to the country as a kid, Okay, And
that will law. And the acting Secretary of Homeland Security,
I think, had called for the end of DOCCA and
the soup said no, and that will continue to be

(05:09):
the law of the day. Yeah for now. Um. Clarence
Thomas descended he's unhappy under the auspices of today's decision.
Administrations can bind their successors by unlawfully adopting significant legal
changes through executive branch agency memoranda. Oh listen to him.

(05:31):
Bring it. This is a little more pithy. Today's decision
must be recognized for what it is, an effort to
avoid a politically controversial but legally correct decision. That's old,
Clarence Thomas. Interesting the number out today, This happens every Thursday.
One point five million workers claimed jobless benefits last week,

(05:54):
marking eleventh straight week of declines, which is a positive
spin and and it is true, but it's still an
extraordinary number. Um. Yeah, that's new, claims the feel or
at least you know in my part of the world.
And from what I read, is that okay, we're opening

(06:14):
back up. The economy is going again. Um, you know,
we're we're figuring out the social distancing and masks and
the rest of it. We're trying to do it smart.
But we're absolutely now moving forward. The idea that one
point five million new people filed that's rough man, that's
businesses that just ran out of gas. How probably, the
Fed Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said today he's already said

(06:38):
that the worst of the economic crisis caused by the
coronavirus could nearly be over as businesses are reopening across
the country. We may be reaching a bottom on that
that now. So we're at the bottom right now. I
hope he's right along the bottom lasts. I don't know, Yeah, yeah,
that's that's the question. The V shape recovery versus the

(07:02):
U shaped jack or the feared hockey stick, or it
just goes straight for a long time at a low level.
We don't know. We'll have to find out. Can can
I hear our Joe Biden clip again? Wake Up? Obviously
hands that wake up needs to be a regular part
of the intro to the show. I used to get
in there. Wake Up, wake Up, wake Up is that.

(07:26):
I'm sorry. I'm trying to understand. The scenario was that
one man who didn't quite succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning
urging another man who has to wake up? Is that
the first guy near death apparently wake up. That's a
gentleman who has found asleep in his car in the garage,

(07:46):
right exactly. Yeah, he hed falling asleep after starting his car,
and he's at the risk of death. And I'm telling you,
I'm having a gut caveman reaction to that. I hear
a man near death, I'm serious, and what I want
to make sure I got his final wishes. What I'd
really like to know is was there a decision made

(08:08):
like you talked about tow like really low key at
things are frantic Pole Show people are being exhausted by
the new cycle. I am. I just talking about it
with my wife last night. Yes, I said, I just
can't handle this anymore. The new cycle is killing me.
She said, I don't even look anymore. I know. It's
just your your brain reaches a point where you just
can't take any more stimulus, and it's it's a protective
mechanism um to to ignore it and shut it down

(08:30):
if it's not like a bear trying to eat one
of my children. Right now, I have to block it out.
I want to can you do of a sabbatical in
the the entertainment business where you just go away for
six months? How about folks, listen, we'll be back in
late October. We're just gonna take a couple of months off.
But so so we don't go psychotic. But my question is,
did they coach Biden on that and say extra low

(08:52):
key yes, or did he just come out and that's
just what he sounded like yesterday. Well they give him
a pep talk and say high energy, and he came
out like this, thank you. I tell you what. It
is clear his strategy is to be old, calming, Joe,
old bipartisan, middle of the road Gio all this craziness
Donald Trump place, come on, everybody, return to normal times.

(09:15):
Remember the sixties. Those were a good time, right? Maybe not?
Maybe that's a bad example. It was the sixties when
I got elected to the Senate for the first time.
Because I'm a hundred anyway, it's it's clearly a strategy.
But I don't know whether he just went a little
too far there, or if he's actually got to one
foot in the grave. He sounds like he's dying, you know,
a tangent um. I've heard a couple of people point

(09:37):
this out recently, and it's absolutely true, and I think
it's worth keeping in mind when we have all these
discussions when people refer to the sixties, what they really
mean is like sixties seven through seventy three. That's people
mean when they refer to the sixties. I think you're right.
The bulk of the sixties, sixty through sixty seven, we're
quite placid um and like old tiny America here summer

(09:59):
a of nineteen sixty seven thing was mostly amusing. It's
really like sixties seven through the early seventies is what
people mean by the turbulent, chaotic hippie music, drugs, craziness,
right bombing sixties. Yeah, yep, agreed um. But I thought
another thing on the interview with Robert Gates yesterday, former
SEC deaf, former CIA chief worked under geez what seven

(10:22):
different presidents or something like that, old guy being around
a long time, and asked, is this as crazy as
has ever been? And he said, yeah, absolutely, So it's
not just you know, in the imagination of the young,
No wonder I'm so exhausted. Yeah, it's as crazy as
it's been in a very very long time. Um. I
found this kind of calming. A Fortune survey of CEOs

(10:43):
and some of their attitudes right now about changing their
companies for racial stuff or the economy in different things
I found quite interesting. Among other things we could get to,
we also had a number of people weighing in about
their wives or husbands in the way they react when
they're doing the uh, the non driving portion of going somewhere,
the backseat driver. Oh no, myrtle strife. I hate to

(11:04):
hear that. Our text line is four one to nine
five k f TC art Strong and the Armstrong and
Getty Show. I suppose at some point out to mention

(11:32):
the Bolton book, that is, is it's Outer or not Outer? Well,
it's not out officially, but all sorts of copies have been.
It doesn't matter. Nobody reads these books. People dig through
to get the juicy chunks the back of their narrative,
and everybody talks about them like crazy for two days,
for for a day and a half, and then nobody
reads a minute. It goes away. That's what happens book
after book after book, yeah, so yeah, we'll talk about

(11:55):
that maybe next segment. Okay, there's some interesting stuff in there.
And and the fact, well what's most notable to me
is that everybody on all sides is kicking John Bolton
for being a weasel. Um. But anyway, more of that
to come quick aside, The left is so good at
at imposing um, how we talk about things. Uh, they're

(12:17):
way better than the right. And it's bothered me for
a long time. For instance, I'm in the the lunch
room getting some caffeine juice and Fox News is reporting
on the docket decision that just came down, and they
refer to the docket recipients as dreamers, dreamers get to
stay or whatever. That That is a term, that's a

(12:39):
pr spin term invented by the left to make all
of this could be against a dreamer of this brilliant.
By the way, we suggested calling doctor recipients precious fairy
dust angels. I mean, that's only slightly more ridiculous than dreamers.
Fox News has adopted that in that verbiage, that nomenclature.

(12:59):
That is a win if you're that belief. Yep, Michael
mentioned his fiancee, uh, making noises while he was driving,
and he was afraid something horrible had happened. We got
this text my wife taught me. Gasping and grasping the
dash with both hands without explanation, unnerves every driver, including
this great one. So she's a gasp and grasp the

(13:22):
dash with both hands. My wife does that fairly regularly.
My wife has done that too. I have urged her repeatedly. Sweetheart,
if we are in danger, the last thing in the
world you want to do is lean forward, all right,
let your let your belt keep you in place. Oh
and not danger, by the way. Uh oh, my gosh.
And then you look around everything like that, and somebody
spilled an ice cream car ice cream cone. I've had

(13:44):
that experience anytime we're about to be hit by a track.
Oh no, somebody spilled something in the backseat. Yeah, we
need we need different sound effects for these things. Exactly
internal issue, not external threat. Um Fortune Survey of eos
planned policy changes in response to the current calls for
racial justice. This is a survey of CEOs around the

(14:06):
country on a number of topics, but six policy changes.
Due to the social unrest. There's hardly a website. I've
been to whether it's genes or music or whatever, where
they don't have some sort of hashtag we're with the
protests or lots of we support Black Lives Matter, which
shocks me because if you go to Black Lives Matter website,

(14:26):
there's all kinds of stuff on there that the majority
of the country absolutely does not support UM. So it's
interesting to me that mainstream outlets are so free with
their support of of that. Well, I think just to
stay out of trouble. Every stovetop stuffing and running shoe
and gene and guitar string is just making it clear
we're down with it. Are there are people that actually

(14:47):
look for that and won't do business with a corporation
that hasn't posted something like because I don't even think
of it. If I need to buy something, that's all
that's privilege. Maybe it is the numbers in white gene,
is that any wears them tight. That percentage goes up
as the age goes down. The younger the consumer, the
more likely they already care about they're looking on the

(15:08):
website to see if they've made a stand. They have
really internalized the voting with your dollar mantra of a
lot of things that's why you see the targeting of advertisers.
They're they're aware of the financial power of collective. But
that's interesting. That's a change, you know, and maybe I
have Is it for the better? Where I I never
have an I doubt that I'm going to change At

(15:28):
this point in my life. I don't think about the
politics of the company's I do business with. I just
it never crosses my mind. But the next generation it
might be very important to them. Uh of ceo say
revenues have already recovered or never dropped. Well, this is
Fortune magazine, so they're trying to have a positive spin, right, Um,
thirty percent of ceo say revenues have recovered were never dropped. Well,

(15:51):
that's only that leaves out an awful lot of companies
said they didn't drop them, have not recovered it. Some
say won't recover in the foreseeable future only four per cent,
but almost half expect the recovery to recur between January
twenty one in June, so they put the bad news
at the bottom. But almost half of the cd CEOs

(16:11):
think the recovery won't occur for like a year and
a half. Not good, No, No, I thought this was
interesting seventies seven percent of ceo say their company's digital
transformation was significantly accelerated during the economic crisis. That rings
so true. Sure, so you were headed toward this with

(16:34):
computers and skyping and all this sort of stuff, and
then all of a sudden, the highest priority get this
going right now. Well and listen, there's there's a lot
of inertia, or call it momentum if you want, in
businessmum momentum. That's right, the president, I'm playing in a
golf tournament this weekend. That's our team slogan. Momentum. But
you gotta shout it or write it in all caps

(16:55):
like the president is. But there's a certain amount of
momentum in business. Things exist just because they have existed.
They're going to do tomorrow what they did yesterday just
because they did it yesterday. And with lots of people
either furloughed or or at home, is a little less significant.
But a lot of businesses are finding out. You know,
it was a little better with the furloughed people here,

(17:17):
but not that much better. I think we just won't
bring them back. You're gonna see sustained unemployment for that
reason for a long time, and you could argue that
it's making businesses lean or mean or more effective in
some cases. Um, but yeah, I think that's really going
to delay the bounce back because they had to find
out just how important all of us were and some

(17:38):
of us not so much. I'm talking about us. You

(18:06):
guys need a cool off, because this is not the time.
We can't handle a world war right now. We're already
dealing with so many things. Coronavirus, economies are tanking, global
protests are happening, and at any minute more Hollywood actors
could release one of those black and white videos. Nah. Um, yeah,
that's right, I've got one of those. That's just terrible.

(18:28):
We need to play later, one of those I'm a celebrity,
you should take me seriously videos. Apparently word has not
penetrated their thick, thick film of self importance that nobody
wants that China versus India, it seems calmish for right now.
I hope the third and fourth biggest military in the

(18:49):
world squaring off killing each other over the weekend. Well,
this common time is when they put more nails in
the bats. Yeah, apparently heard up for the next battle.
Well yeah, I heard it. Described by a pretty sober
commentator as a gang war, that they're just they they patrol,
they see each other occasionally, they you know, maybe shout
stuff at each other, and they hate each other just
because they're on the other side. And these guys just

(19:12):
they interrupted into fists and sticks and whatever, and they
beat the hell out of each other. And I was
listening to in the Chinese side one. I don't know
if the Indians were out numbered or just aren't good
enough fight or what. I hadn't meant to talk about this,
but I was listening to a podcast yesterday with one
of what I'm told the best Chinese experts in in
America aren't think tanks constantly in communication with with the Chinese. Uh,

(19:35):
you know, military, etcetera, etcetera, and uh. And this woman said,
they are going to move on Taiwan. It's just a
matter of when she is gonna move on Taiwan. And
she said she's talked to people in the Chinese military
who have said, what's America gonna do? They can't stop
us at this point. Their belief is we don't have

(19:56):
the will or the ability to stop them from do
doing that. They don't think we've got the military might
to stop them from doing something like that, honestly on
both counts. And she said, whether they're right or wrong,
it's a big dilemma because they could be wrong, but
that means they're still going to do it and uh right,
and it'd be a heck of a thing to find out,

(20:17):
you know, who's right. One of our emailers referred to
a president she is Winnie the Poo's stunt double stunt
double uh, which I thought was very funny. Um. Yeah,
the idea, well, in terms of could we stop them,
I say no, because, with all due respect to the
might of the American Navy, it's like, um, if if
I don't know, uh, Staten Island were a rebel territory

(20:43):
of the United States, I mean we could we could
decide all right, let's take it all right now, and
ten minutes later we'd be overrunning it. And if some
other country was unhappy about it, well they wouldn't be
able to get there in time. It'd be fatal complete.
Then you'd have to like invade it get it back,
and there's no way we have the will to do that.
You know, this fits in a little bit. We're we

(21:04):
would just sanction uh, the Beijing out of them for
the next ten years or whatever. That could be our
only response if I'm gonna be honest about it, boy,
And then what does that look like? The crazy cyber warfare?
And what does that say to the world? What does
that look like in the world stage? That is an
announcement that, Okay, there are two coequal militaries out there.
Isn't that just a statement of that? No, I don't

(21:28):
think so, just because of the geographic reality of it.
If you ever look at a map, I mean, China
is this enormous country and then you squint your eyes
and you see Taiwan is this little island that's right
next to I mean, right there, and they go, but
just gobble it up? Now? Will we let them fully
militarize the South China? See? No way, They've wanted Taiwan
for seventy five years. It's always been a tiny speck

(21:50):
right off of China. They didn't take it before because
they didn't think they could. According to this person's interviews
with military people, they can now. So that's a that's
a change in uh in situation um. And it kind
of fits in with the Bolton book. We're gonna talk
about little bit the Wall Street Journal. Of course, they
picked out part of the Bolton book where he said, oh,
some things that were somewhat flattering the President Trump. Don't

(22:12):
want those to sneak into the media. But on how
you know, he's happy that Trump recognizes the situation with
China um and Bolton is way more you know, hawk
ish that direction, and he talks about past presidents and
that sort of stuff, But he was, he was on
how we everybody understands this now. Secretary Gates talked about

(22:32):
it yesterday in an interview. The world made a bet
that if we let China run run free their econot
with their economics, screwing everybody around the world, at least
as their economy grows, they'll become nicer and all that
sort of stuff didn't work. Bad idea it's over didn't
help at all. All they did was build a very
frightening military with a very frightening attitude. But this expert,

(22:55):
this expert, she said, the idea that they would uh
that they that the middle class would take over and
they'd open up and they'd get calmer, was was wrong.
She said. What was also wrong, and in retrospect really wrong.
Is this idea that you can tell somebody, we're going
to allow you to be number two as long as
you want, you can be a good, solid number two.

(23:16):
That's what we're doing. Doesn't that make you feel good.
Nobody feels good being told we're going to allow you
to be second best. Nobody actually wants to be vice president.
I hadn't take that deal in a second. I had
never thought of it that way before, But that was
what what the United States was saying to China. We're
absolutely in favor of you becoming number two, the second

(23:38):
best economy and the second best of this, and the
second best that. And then they thought, when we're not
interested in big number two, we want to be number one.
So yeah, I suppose maybe, you know, I'm not sure
I buy that argument, because there are plenty of countries
that seem fine with being number seventeen. But maybe if
you're number two, you smell number one and sure, and
you want to be it. But what's interesting is China's

(23:58):
wealth enabled it to double down on its aggressive totalitarian impulses.
It was the opposite of what all of us hoped
would happen. You know, back in the great opening of China,
Uh dialogue, um or you know the narrative. So the
Bolton's book is coming out any day, although the Justice
Department is suing. I'm saying he violated his nondisclosure agreements

(24:20):
in the rest of it, but so much of it
is leaked out it's it's become a moot point anyway. Uh.
So you know, a couple of things bother me about
the coverage. Number One, Bolton thinks Trump isn't good at
foreign policy and doesn't know enough about it. Okay, if
if you either agree or you don't agree, or you think, well,
he's still better in the alternative, that's fine. What bothers
me about the coverage of it is that it's it's
like a game of telephone it. The things that the

(24:43):
book actually says are getting characterized and recharacterized um in
the media. For instance, UM. One passage that's just getting
flogged is uh. Bolton writes that Trump was quote pleading
with she to ensure he'd win the reelection. But Bolton
said he could not print the president's exact words because

(25:03):
of the government's prepublication review process. So pleading with she
to ensure he'd win what do you actually say. I mean,
if if he said, you know, it would really help
our farmers, that would help me politically. I could get reelected.
We could keep going down that path. I don't find
that a particularly obnoxious or or wrong. Bolton says Trump

(25:26):
was was obsessed with getting re elected to the exclusion of,
like America's good, what would really serve America? I don't
know that's Bolton's opinion. That would be in the ivy
beholder on an instant by instant basis. But you remember
the famous Obama video of I'll have more freedom after
the election. He was not doing something that would hurt
his re election chances and tell him the leader of Russia,

(25:48):
that I'll do I can do it after the election,
but I can't do it now because it would hurt
my chance of getting reelected. Lots of presidents have done that.
That's a very common thing to do, might be unfortunate,
might be an stream. You might cross a line where
it's extreme, But I don't know. I'd have to know
the instance by instance, right decision right um. And the
other one that that bothered me is that in the book,

(26:12):
Bolton says he's asked, what did Putin think of Trump,
and Bolton says, I think Putin thought he could play
Trump like a fiddle, which evolved on NBC News and
NPR This Morning to Bolton thought Putin could play Trump

(26:35):
like a fiddle. When Bolton was describing what he thought,
Putin thought, and Putin thought he could play Obama like
a fiddle. And he thought he could play George W.
Bush like a fiddle. He's a pretty good fiddler too,
by the way, Putin, I'll put a fiddle of gold
against your soul. If you think you're better than me,
I don't. I'm pretty bad. Um. Here's the part that
I hate and why I don't really want to discuss this. Yeah,

(26:59):
wouldn't that be incredibly heavy? Even think you'd be resonant
at all? Can we just do like a cash bed?
I mean, if if I'm getting into some if I'm like,
come up again, some golf hustler he thinks he can
beat me, I'm not gonna play for solid gold golf clubs.
They'd be heavy. Here's what I hate about all these books, though,
and I hate slippery when you're sweating. I hate discussing

(27:20):
these books. I hate all these books, and not just
the political ones, because there's been lots of them, people
who only do the right thing when they're going to
profit from it. And it happens all the freaking time,
whether you were on the bicycling team with Lance Armstrong
or or your FBI director Ray and uh you remember

(27:43):
he said in the sixty Minutes interview they were considering
invoking the amendment or whatever that is to remove the
president because he's crazy, which wasn't even in the book,
but you said it on television to sell the book.
So and and then Bolton saying the impeachment inquiry missed
other troubling episod then show up to the impeachment inquiry

(28:03):
and tell the people trying to impeach the president what happened.
You think these things are so damaging, you think the
guy is so unqualified, you had the opportunity to play
a role in removing him, then do it, you freaking weasel.
These people are such low lives. Yeah, well, even if

(28:23):
you want to make all the arguments that what he
says is true, fine, go ahead, I don't care. But
he is a weasel of the most weaseling character. He's saying,
the most powerful man in the world is not fit
for the office. It's obvious you had a chance to
play a role in removing him and you didn't. Why
because you're gonna make more money if you waited and
put it in a book that is so that is

(28:45):
so unpatriotic. You shouldn't be held up as anything but
a disgrace. That's embarrassing. It is fairly amusing the way
the Democrats are holding their nose while they tout the
book and what he says, because they are so angry
at him for holding off, holding back until his book
was out, because they wanted him to testify at the

(29:06):
ridiculously rushed and show body impeachment thing, and he just no,
not I'm busy that day. He just wouldn't cooperate in
any way, wouldn't test it. We didn't say a word.
Comy did the same thing lots and have done the
same thing. If you have something so Tyllerson did the
same thing as Secretarist State, you have something so damaging
that's going on behind the scenes, then you you call

(29:27):
the Washington Post, or you get a bunch of microphones
around you and you say it out loud, You resign
in protest, or something be a freaking patriot if that's
what you actually believe, or did you not think it
was that big a deal and you've ooked it up
a little bit to sell a book now that one, Well,
what's the disconnect is the portrayals are so dramatic in

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the books and so black and white and so horrifying.
If they were that way, you would have said something
or done something if you're a real patriot as a
those to a you know, would be a star author.
And so either these people are morally reprehensible, as you
were suggesting, or the stuff in a book is jazzed
up and made extra exciting and at the time you

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were thinking, I don't think this is a good decision,
but he's the president. We'll see how it goes. Man,
if it's true, you gotta you gotta resign and go
to a microphone and tell people. I just I don't.
I don't get that. You know, I suppose if a well,
I think you do get it. I think you've explained
it quite nicely. You can't relate to it. It's not
more complicated than that. No, No, I don't think it

(30:34):
is at all. Book publisher calls you and says, you know,
if you laid this out in book for him, and
we had a real big build up to it, and
we time it right. You can make six million dollars.
Oh boy. I'm working on my Jack Armstrongs Are Rotten
Human Being book right now. I'm gonna get my first
draft started. Uh Taco Bell employee fired over Black Lives
Matter mask. I think this is wearing it or not

(30:56):
wearing it or employee employee war. It got fired because
it goes goes against her policy. But the manager who
intervened is in big trouble and political trouble. And so
the reason I think this is a story is because
every company in America could be dealing with this situation
which day or next week. Why they're frantically virtue signal.

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A little more on that coming up the Armstrong and
Getting Show. Some of our favorite syrups are under the gun.

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I hadn't. I don't believe I'd ever thought for a
second about and Jemima and it going away is fine
with me. I don't care. I just I've I've I've
had Jemima serp in my whole life, but I'd never
put any thought into any of it. Name your corn syrup,
something else that's fine. Um, but if it has racist
origins or whatever, you get rid of it or whatever.
But so um. Then I heard Mr Mrs Mrs Butterworth's

(32:08):
is under pressure now and Canagara Brands this is, according
to Chicago Business is reviewing Mrs Butterworth's imagery. And I thought,
what's Mrs Buttersworth? I mean I could picture Aunt Jemima
and I thought, okay, I guess that is that racist
or Rachel Ruter word's a black woman on there. I
don't even know what it is. I've never thought about it.

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I don't think about these things. Maybe some of you do. Well,
here's what it says in the in the Business report
about this. Uh. ConAgra Brands announced the review of its
Mrs Butterworth's brand hours after rival syrup and pancake mixed
brand Aunt Jemima said it was removing the imagery of
a black woman from its packaging. Mrs Butterworth's origin and

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race have never been specified by the brand, but the
dark coloring of the of the syrup in the clear
bottle gives many people the idea she is meant to
represent a black woman, as clearly syrup blackish dark is
kind of yes, obviously, because it's a clear bottle and
syrup is the color it is, there's an assumption that

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it might be a black woman. And if it were
a black woman, why can't it be a black woman?
I feel like some of this, like I said yesterday,
I feel like if you introduced ant Jemima today, you
could spin it as or what we're saying is, you know,
black moms had great recipes back in the day too, right.
It's it's not affirmative action, but it's I feel like

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if Mrs Butterworth was obviously white, there'll be pressure for
only white moms can have great syrup because there's there's
no claim of Mrs Butterworth venus slave or anything. Man,
I don't claim of it being anything. I've eaten in
a couple of black run diners in d C. That
is the best food I've ever had in my life,
So yeah, I would think, yeah, heck yeah, is that

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what they're going for? I don't know what you know, Jack,
have always assumed that the honey bear, which is you know,
the honey container that she squeeze the honey out of,
that's bear shaped. I've always assumed it was a grizzly
because it was roughly honeycoat. No, I haven't assumed anything.
I used to do a hilarious bit for my kids
with the honey bear. Though, yeah, I wish I had

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a video of it. It's like that movie with which
movie is that with the talking bear ted O? No,
like The Revenant where Leo fought a bear? No, No,
not really. I would the honey bear. It's important that
some of the honey was missing from it, and uh
and I would have the honey bear walking and talking

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on the table and doing a character voice and all,
and then I'd say, then I'd have the honey bear
whirl on one of my kids. You're looking at me?
Are you looking at me? That makes me so mad?
And then I'd squeeze it in. The honey would rise
up and cover his face like he was turning wreck
with anger. Great looking at me cracked him up. Honey

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bear bit. Mrs Butterworth Syrup was introduced in ninete. The
syrup comes in a bottle shaped like a woman. The
character talks and seemingly a woman shaped like that needs
to get to the gym shaped like a woman. Wow,
now body shape not know? Plenty of women are not
shaped like that bottle piling on the racism with body shape.

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Not wake up, thank you, that's Joe Biden there, folks.
Um Mrs Butterworth claims that they're just trying to evoke
the images of a loving grandmother. We stand and that
we stand in solidarity with black and brown communities. The
fact that they feel the need to even respond to this.
It's not even a it's not a person who. It

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doesn't have a color, it's not in anything. Right. Might
somebody think we might have thought maybe back in the day,
is the color of syrup a right? So I'm trying
to decide. Uh. One of our beloved listeners turned us
on too well the email this mail bag and I'm
strong in getty dot com to a Tracy Morgan bit

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on Saturday Night Live a number of years ago, Uncle
Jemima's pure mesh liquor. I haven't, but it's funny. I
just I just watched it, and it is indeed funny.
What year think, double lot? I think the year two
thousand and it's still on YouTube and and Saturday Night

(36:23):
Live controls all your SNL clips on your day. They
only allow them on there if they want them on
their right. Um and it it seems partly to be
mocking the like Disney Song of the South, image of
black folk in the South, but it's also rather a
hard edged like, well, how do I how do I

(36:47):
put this without ending my career? It's rather critical of
old black drunks too, in that Tracy Morgan way. Um
and it's it's quite funny, but I don't know if
we do it our helves any good. Maybe google it,
Uncle Jemima, I'm sorry bing it. Google is evil. Uncle
Jemima's pure mash liquor. So we'll get to Joe Biden

(37:10):
came out of his spidy hole yesterday and gave a
little speech and some people think he sounded a little
low energy. Will let you decide. And uh, the taco
bell thing. We have audio from the manager dealing with
the employee with the mask. Is that what that is? Sean?
And boy, you might be dealing with this at your workplace.
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