June 17, 2020 • 37 mins
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There is Armstrong and get the Bird's place of Taller Radio,
all these idiots of foods and jackass on radio. What
an introduction that was? Holy godh gosh, nobody does it better.
We don't want another incident here. Good. It's such a
bizarre world. I apologize for that, all right. Go, you
are not crazy, Your views are not evil fishers Ed mcmiyon,
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and not he Armstrong and Getty Eddie Eddie. Why from
a studio cz here you know what it is. It's
a dimly lit room deeper than the bowels of the
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Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And hey, everybody today under
the two ledge of our general manager, America's peace officer,
your local police department. There you go. That just like
a tip of the cap sign of respect for a
tough job. That's sort of thing. Yeah, just certainly the
object of discussions. He says. I was just in the
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bathroom doing my hair. That's where I was. I do
my hair before I come in. You what now a
drug code when you have very little hair like I do.
If when you get up in the morning it's all
matted down on one side and it looks terrible. Hanson
is nodding. How do you recognize this experience from other
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people that have had that problem? My hairs all matted down.
It looks ridiculous. So I have to get my hands
wet and rub it through it, rub my head to
get it all fluffed. The tiny little hair is all
fluffed up again. He was being serious. Yes, I'm being serious.
He got practically no horror, all being completely serious. Dare
you to show up one day with matted hair and
see if any of us started dudes, so we don't
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notice anything. Yeah, exactly, I could show up with a
pink afro and you notice anyway. So I was in
the bathroom doing my hair and y beautiful hair, and
I was reminded that i'd heard a story that flushing
the toilet can send coronavirus particles into the air. Yes,
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questioning whether you should flush the toilet as much, or
if you should get some sort of remote control flushing
so you can flush it when you're out of the
room or something. I heard a doctor saying he breathes
more slowly and less deeply when he's in a bathroom
in hale and stuff down deep into his lungs. That's
pretty interesting, huh. So, but by the way, it fellas
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like he were more susceptible to the Corona bald guys.
The story came out last week, ten days ago something
like that. Doesn't make any difference whether my stubble has
been fluffed or not. I hate to admit this as
a Harry Harry man with a thick, lustrous head of
chestnut hair. But bald fellers have more androgens and some
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male hormones, which is why I'm so incredibly effeminate. Um
and and that you've seen that the death toll among
men is much higher than women and the outcomes tend
to be worse. Blah blah blah. They think it has
to do with those manly manly hormones, but nobody's quite
sure why. One of the many question marks attached to this,
and you have more of those if you don't have hair. Yes,
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I didn't know that. That is one of the indicators.
My kids, my my one son particularly has hair like
he's Eric clapped in in nineteen sixty seven, just the big,
full wavy It's crazy. Yeah, I know him all the time.
I'd like to have had your hair one day, just
for the options involved. A couple of my kids have
hair thicker than the bears. It's amazing. Um. Back to
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the toilet. So as I read more about where you
can and can't can't catch the coronavirus, yet another article
in the Wall Street Journal today about that the science
is in UM, I know how it's it's so much
about breathing in close contact, rarely from surfaces. UM. Very
difficult to get outdoors. So it's in a closed room,
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close to someone else for a length of time. That's
that's what does you But so bat and you know,
I feel like I'm relatively safe most of the places
I go. But bathrooms I don't know who's been in there.
And then you got the coffin sneezing, blowing your nose
and flush and toilets, the droplets in the air. Yeah,
caldron of disease. Maybe I shouldn't stay out of bathrooms,
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well in the whole, in a closed room, extended amount
of time talking to people. I think the President needs
to outlaw meetings at the office. There you go, probably
let's say for the next ten years, Let's see how
it goes. Wouldn't that be awesome? If what comes out
of this the silver lining is doing away with pointless meetings,
or they gotta be two minutes or less, right, because
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you're gonna do that. You're gonna do that. You're gonna
do that. Anybody got a question? Yes? Should I do
it this way? Yes? Okay, I have a question. Are
we gonna have the summer picnic? No, you're exposing us
all to more possible virus with your stupid question that
has nothing to do with what we're here for. Silence, jackass, Silence, jackass.
If I'm your CEO, that's the way meetings would go.
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I'm willing to accept any offers that come my way.
And the questions almost always coming from the people that
have the least power or influence over the organization. Yeah,
that's so common. You just started here last week. Put
your hand out exactly exactly. You work like eleven hours
a week. You're just clearly killing time. See, you make
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more money. The rest of us have to get back
to work or nod from you or no offense. But
just with your position, you could do a great job
or a horrible job and nobody would know the difference. Right,
it's just minor impact. So no questions from you don't
make me Silence You jackass. Let's introduce everybody in the
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squad there to kick off the show. There's our board
operator Michael Angelo, President button's flipping toggles, pulling levers. Sorry
this morning, Michael, go ahead. Yesterday, during the eight o'clock hour,
we had a horrific scene when I almost ended the
hour at an improper time, and it was because I
couldn't see the clock. And just you know, I so
yesterday I finally had to swallow my pride and I
had executive producer enlarged the clock on my screen and
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now I can see it beautifully and it will never
ever happen again. Keep your fund for the older man. Yes,
keeping time will never be a problem again. What times
your step in tub being wow? Wow? The youth on
the staff, that's ages and staff on that's hate speech.
Getting yourself a walk in tub and bigger buttons. There
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you go, that's all right. So I went home, cried,
swallowed my pride, and there came back today. Fantastic. You
got to adapt. Um. Do you have one of those
remote controls at home, the really big numbers that you
can get. No, not yet, but keeping time will never
be a problem again. I'll be on it. Excellent. Um,
there is positive Sean who smile lights up the room.
How are you showing doing very well? But I do
have a correction to many minutes. It was thanks Michael
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was timing. It was it was yesterday's show. We were
just cussing one of the many Karen's that was that
finds our finds herself in the news cycle these days,
and I got my Karen's confused. I asserted that the Karen,
the California Karen we were talking about at one point
during the engagement, said something to the effect of go
back to where you came from, that was a different Karen.
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I apologize here, despite the request from my Twitter mentions,
I will not be issuing a written apology to all Karen's,
but I will say hashtag too many Karen's. Okay, yeah,
we got that story completely wrong. Actually, it's just top
to bottom, and I'm to blame because I I brought
it up fine moments. The The overall gist of it
was the same though, which was my point. The the
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details of that particular story, I really wasn't that interested in.
It's just that overall phenomenon of that sort of thing.
As her husband now has been fired. So not only
did the Karen have to lose her job for doing
something that the society decided was no good for, you know,
an hour on Twitter, but her husband had to go. Right.
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But what was unclear to me at the time, and
apparently I still have no idea, is did he play
an active role in it or is he just like THEO,
taped it and allowed it to happen. I guess like
the l A Galaxy, his his mouthy hot wife made
some untoward comments on Twitter or something. The Galaxy let
him go because he's got a mouthy hot wife. Really yeah, yeah,
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I don't think the fact that she was hot went
into the decision. How did that the decision of marrier? True?
I am going to in one random day in the
next five days, I'm gonna come in with my hair
matted down and see if anybody notices I am on
a letter time all thought you were joking you have stubble. No,
I was doing my hair. That's what I was doing
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before I walked in the room. Was in the bathroom, Okay,
my hair you made? Did they have video camera in there?
Perhaps you could go back and then look at the video.
I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Jogetti on this Wednesday, June. We
are arm strong and getting we approve of this program.
Let's begin fluffing our stubble. According to FCC rules and regulations,
the show begins officially at mark. The United States didn't
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inherit slavery from anybody. We created it. That is Senator
Tim Caine, who is willing to say anything, no matter
how stupid, inane, or inaccurate, if it scores political points. Well,
he was vice presidential candidate too, Yes, yes he was.
He was. Recall, that is unfreaking believable. That's a heck
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of a thing to say. That's an evil thing to yeah,
that's horrid. Does not make things better, And it's it's
popular now in MSNBC Scarborough and all of them do it.
It's to regularly refer to our four hundred years of
systemic racism based on that sixteen nineteen project. The founding
of this country was founded on slavery. That's what it's
always been about. We've you know, institutionalized racism on purpose
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from the beginning and it continues. Man. We we need
to work that out as a narrative and in our nation. Well,
and we have folks being dragged into training sessions all
over the country now where they are being taught to
be woke at their office, at their workplace. It's very
much like the uh, you know, the non sexual harassment
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training we've taken and everybody had to go in a
room or some dope man or woman and instructed you
on how not to sexually harass. And of course studies
have shown sexual harassment rises after those for some reason.
But um, so yeah, those woke classes are now being
required at a lot of employers. Really and here's here's
the issue. And didn't get any of the what they
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teach you in those things to absolutely um. But the
problem is, and most of the terrified and or just
um uninformed employers and executives don't understand, is these activist
groups have redefined all the terms that you think, you know,
like racism, You are a racist unless you adopt wholly
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their political views. That is what you must sign the
forms and give away, you know, your entire intellect to
these activist groups. Otherwise you are a racist. So when
you make your employees pledged not to be a racist,
that's what you're making them pledged to do. More on
that James Lindsay is on fire on the Twitter machine
on that. That's that's good stuff right there. How's mailbag look?
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Oh my gosh, epic, It's just it's fabulous. Wow, you laugh,
you'll cry. Comments on anything we've said, including do you
fluff your hair? Four one two nine five k f
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five KFTC are strong the armstrong and Getty showed I've
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been drinking her syrup since I was a tiny lad.
But Aunt Jemima is going away. We'll talk about that
coming up. And also a one hundred and thirty six
year old Christopher Columbus statue being removed from a park
in St. Louis. I want to talk about that phenomenon
as it sweeps the nation. Yeah, troubled times. Have you
noticed that crazy man crazy? There's a little hope on
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the Chinese bat fever, then steroid if you're one of
the very few who gets it and the very few
who has a severe case of it. Um they've they've
cut deaths by like, which is, you know, if you've
got it, you're hoping more like but at least there's hope. Mailbag,
you can email us mail bag and I'm strong and
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getty dot com and there to register opinions, send along
something you think we ought to be talked about. Whatever
freedom loving quote of the day from Stephen Fry today.
We've we've had a couple of Stephen Fry quotes. And
I really even know who he is, so I checked around.
He's an English writer and actor and director and kind
of a renaissance man. He is a liberal, but a
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kind of an old school liberal. I'm a fan, like
is he a contemporary like alive today or from the second? Yeah? Good,
good question. Well he's he's tweeting, so there's there's a
hint um he's yeah, he appears to be I don't know,
in his sixties. Maybe he was buddies with a Hitchens. Okay, okay,
Chris Hitchens Liberal, Yeah, okay, anyway, he wrote the following
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social media thanks to Chris for sending us along. Not
Chris Hitchens, He's past. This is a different Chris. No.
Social media is a stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self
righteous who loved his second guest to link to conclusions
and be offended, worst, to be offended on behalf of others.
They do not even know, it's as nasty and unwholesome
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characteristic as can be imagined. It doesn't matter whether they
think they're defend women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists. The
ghastliness is absolutely the same. Hard to argue with that
that's good. Is it gonna take a full generation to
end up with only people who have grown up with
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Twitter around for it to to settle down? That's an
interesting question. I'm more focused on whether the classical liberal
liberal or the woke militant religious liberal will triumph. Life
experience tends to get you off of the woke fanatical thing.
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Although if you can postpone any sort of rational thought, um,
then maybe you can hang with it. Thought you might
enjoy this, writes John. This is a joke Jack, A priest,
a rabbit, and a minister walk into a bar. The
bartender asks the rabbit, don't you have a rabbit? Says
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I don't know. I'm only here because of auto correct.
A priest, a rabbit, and a minister. That's pretty fun.
I know that's a good joke. I read that. I
cracked up. I said I'm gonna try this on my wife.
I readed her. She gets that mystified look, and then
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cracks up rab well, I'm not gonna explain it to you.
Don't get it. You don't get it. He says, Oh, shot,
I'm getting the duck out of here, then walks out
of the bar. Yes, well said, let's see. Oh, Matt says,
you guys used a word a few weeks ago. I'm
racking my brain trying to remember it because I've been
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googling over half an hour. Google is evil. By the way,
Google is completely evil. We'll be talking about that, please.
It's when something is named. You would have noticed that.
It's when something is named after the fact, essentially a name,
possibly before, but everyone is said, not a word for
it after its original conception. I don't even remember discussing
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the concept. Yeah, that does not ring a bell at all.
I wondered if anybody else. You're probably listening to a
more erudite radio show perhaps or more podcast or something. Yeah,
I don't have any ideas. You know, we do talk about,
you know, names of things and sometimes origins of words.
But no, that's that we're I'm we're as mystified as
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you are, Sir Rich Rights. Hey fellas, yesterday you talked
about a perfect storm for riots after the election. I
live in Portland, where people rioted four years ago before
Trumpet even started the job. Now, after four years of
the world being indoctrinated about how horribly is there will
for sure be riots no matter what my perfect storm was.
They believe a lot of the George Floyd protests and
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protests around the world that have been uh pretty you know, heated.
They're trying to figure out why exactly are these protests
so hot right now, and they think it's because we've
all been locked The combination of being locked up, worried
about your job, worried about your health, it's made everybody
like anxious and angry and crazy, and that's going to
continue through the summer up to election time. You combine
that with a close election and some severe problems with
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elections if the COVID's going on and uh distancing and
machines not working in ballidly you know, mail in ballots
and all this sort of stuff. See the problems they
had in Georgia a week or so ago. You got
a recipe for some severe rioting and a real belief
that this election actually wasn't legit. No, that would be terrible,
and half the country in a close election, no matter
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which direction it goes, believes that's not my president. I
think that's likely where we end up. See Armstrong and
Getty show a quart to the reason bull fewer Americans
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have a negative a vice president Joe Biden then they
did of Hillary Clinton said Clinton, stop asking people leave
me audio poles. That's pretty funny. Oh boys. So here's
a couple of stories that I don't know what I
think of. I realized as a talk show host, I'm
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supposed to have a very solid opinion yes and that's
the one and defend it strong, and people who disagree
with me are evil. But I don't know what I
think about either one of these stories. I'll start with
PepsiCo owns Aunt Jemima Syrup. Didn't know that they own
practically everything you eat a drink. PepsiCo doesn't anyway, They've
decided to drop the whole Aunt Jemima label thing. Now
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Aunt Jemima there's a black woman on the bottle of syrup.
That's all I really know about it, and that's the
that's the extent that I've thought about it my whole life.
This gets to well exactly This gets to the I
don't know what to think about this thing. I'm I
don't want to get too far down the road of
systemic racism and racism you don't see in white privilege,
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because we'll be off on that subject. But I feel
like Aunt Jemima being on the bottle of syrup, which
I've used since I as long as I can remember,
had no impact on me whatsoever in terms of my
my thoughts about Black America. I really honestly believe that
I believe it had zero impact on me. It's also
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gonna have zero impact at being gone, So you know,
I'm not like angry that it's going away. Is separate
to the statutes I'm about to talk about. I don't
think there. I don't think I don't think there's any
possible damage that could be done by removing Aunt Jemima
from the syrup. So you're saying that if you went
into an accounting firm, say with help for for help
with your taxes, and in a black woman or to
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meet with you, you wouldn't think this accountant is just
like Aunt Jema. Believe I've got any lingering anything about
Aunt Jemima being on the Sir the sir let alone
something deeply negative. I just don't believe it. Now. Yeah, well,
I've heard some stuff about an Jemima that is not
so savory. I heard it from Mrs Butterworth, who is
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my syrup. I also feel like if you introduced aunt
Jemima today, but you and you go back with the old,
uh slave woman look that they had up until a
couple of years ago. Remember they changed the look of Angela.
It was kind of an old timey mammy, early twentieth century. Yeah,
but I think I think if you introduced it today
and presented the story as this is trying to show
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that black women who worked for white families contributed. Also,
here's someone who's recipe for syrup was so loved it
was stolen and appropriated and used all over Southern America,
became a national brand. Right if you spun it like that,
you could make a hero. It's a positive thing to
spin syrup. Well, no, I'm yeah, Ultimately, I say, well,
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my whole point is, I don't think it has any
impact on anybody at all. I don't believe it is
a symbol of racism or rain. I don't think it's anything.
I don't think it has any impact any more than
the than the what was the ivory soap baby contributed
to attitudes toward infants? I don't know. I just these
brand names are lucky Charms is contributed to racism against
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my people, the Irish anyway, um, so like, but I'm
not certain about that. But I just feel like it
did not cause me to have any negative feelings about
Black America in any way, having drank drank bottles of
and Jemima's ear throughout my life on the statue things.
So they just took down a one hundred and thirty
six year old of Christopher Columbus statue in a park
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in St. Louis. It's been there a very long time. Um.
It was originally put up to honor contributions of immigrants
in America, which is something we're supposed to be doing,
not white ones. Um. I guess Portuguese is stupid Portuguese.
My only problem with this I think, well, for if
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anybody's ever listened on Columbus Day, you know it's right.
It's the whole Columbus thing. I don't care about at all.
It doesn't I think it's a completely different sort of
thing than the Confederate thing, and certainly a different sort
of thing than taken down Thomas Jefferson. But but just
in general, the thing that bothers me the most is
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it's being decided by mobs. That's not the way we
should decide these things. Mobs shouldn't decide what's up in
the park. I would like there to be a movement
toward you hate the statue, you think it's gonna come down.
Let's let's let's get petitions signed, Let's go to city
council meetings, let's get it on the ballot for the
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next election and get it removed. And you might easily
have enough support in your community to have the statue
taken down. That way of doing it fine, But mobs
deciding what acts or statues get to be is definitely
no way to run a country. And that's the way
it's going right now. The mobs didn't bring the statue down,
but they had defaced it and spray painted it so
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many times. The park finally said, we just can't afford
to provide enough security to keep this from being to face.
It's like the Heckler's veto Yeah, they're afraid at this
point as it is, old enough and carved by some
famous carver of statues that it is an artifact and
actual work of art. They decided we got to move
it into a museum to protect it. But the mob
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should not decide I stay something what comes down. Well,
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I almost hate saying it
out loud. Not that like the Antifa maniacs are listening
to this show or anything, but they so discredit themselves
when they do things as an angry mob, as opposed
to pursuing the levers of our republic like you described,
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good solid activism. That would then, and this is the
part I really don't want to hear them here, they
would learn how the process works. They would be better organized,
They would know who to petition and in what way.
It would probably be more effective than launching their ridiculous,
woke schemes on the rest of us. I almost prefer
them acting like angry idiots. Well, that was the argument
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Barack Obama was making a couple of weeks ago about
getting organized at your your local level, going to city
council meetings, voting, that sort of thing. There's easily enough
power in a lot of communities to get these statues
taken down in a democratic fashion as opposed to in
the middle of the night with ropes and you know bats.
That's no way to make decisions. I find that very,
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very troubling. I do like this, uh, this movement that's
going right now. Is this just in Tennessee or is
this all across the nation sewn? I think it's just
in Tennessee, but I'm trying to get it going all across.
In Tennessee, there is a movement going to replace all
statues with Dolly Parton statues. American Treasure simply reads wrote Joe,
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Lene and I will always of you in the same day.
What have you done? Right? Right? Wow? There you go,
or some sort of movement of people throwing up Columbus
statues all over the country. You know, you show up
to Main Street, they're like three Columbus statues. That would
be funny. I mean, I'm sure you can get some
sort of cheap plaster cast or something like that and
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crank out like a hundred fifty of them for a
thousand bucks. I'd kick into that. Not because I have
any particular interest or pride in Columbus. I really the
whole glorifying Columbus thing is pretty silly, absolutely, um, but
I just I love the trollery of it. Making in
him an evil spreader of genocide is also silly. Ryan,
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He's just a product of his time, like you're the
product of your time. The biggest Columbus statue, obviously, is
the one Columbus circle there right at the corner of
Central Park in Manhattan. That's that's what. That one's a
big deal, and that's when you'll know the mob is
really taken over. Yeah, any way, was that compared to
the Robert E. Lee statue that was like sixty feet high?
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I meant big in terms of importance on a height. Yeah,
I haven't been there in ages anyway? Where were we?
I s So you will likely, if you are part
of corporate America, you will likely be dragged into a
wokeness anti racist slash diversity training session. And the fabulous,
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the brilliant James Lindsay. He's a lefty professor, but he
hates the the woke cancel culture. He has a great
series of well he has some suggestions for how to
approach it if indeed you are forced to attend one
of these. Anybody have any thoughts in the whole and
Jemima thing, is that actually harming in America? I mean,
it wasn't helping in America either. My care My reaction
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to this conversation is that it's making me hungry for pancakes.
That does sound good, doesn't Yeah, and a couple of
sausage links on the side or bacon whatever you got,
have you had? Do you do you ever drink the
light syrup? Drink it? Stop saying that I just have
a couple on ice and I have pancakes once every
four years. At this point in my life, was that
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just once a week I play the pancakes. I gained
two pounds, no kidding, or at least once a week
on pancakes. But I'm flipping love pancakes. No punny. Like
a lot of diet stuff, it just tastes like it's
so much worse for you. I mean, you look at
the label and there's less calories, but the chemicals involved
in diet soda light syrup, that sort of sting is
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your body is screaming, this is gonna give you cancer.
Allegedly back when I was a pancake eater, which sounds
like some sort of slur um I got onto a
real maple syrup. Oh yeah, that's when my one son
will only drink that, and it stops saying drink Nobody
drinks syrup. Nobody says that. You've been saying it for
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so long anyway, But there's there are horrific amounts of
sugar in it. But that's probably well, it's it's not
good for you, but it's probably better. Got to wap
it up whatever chemicals. You know, it's got to be
some corporation is squirting out of their factory and pokeps
in maple syrup. You only need just a little bit,
a little bit, just drowned it. Yeah, then you drank it.
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Eat on the rock. Text line is four got these
pancakes from restaurant called pancakes egg cetera. It's kind of
a plant words. Oh god, hard to imagine he didn't
get elected text line four one five k FTZ are
Strong and the Armstrong and Getty Show. Text line Soon
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we'll have to name more Columbus, change the name or
Columbus land in Columbus, Ohio. Absolutely right, and landed in Columbus, Ohio,
declared it his everybody knows that m if evil. Take
two if power corrupts, and there's nothing more powerful than
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big tech right now, beware big tech. They're evil. More
on that to come. And when they're not evil, they're
stupid because they're so big and and and powerful. Being
stupid is not good. You're talking about your facebooks, your Google's,
That's who I'm talking about, your your Twitter's, Twitter's. Do
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you know who James Lindsay is. He's a professor Portland State, right.
He's a lefty, a nice fellow, but he's a classic
free thought, uh debate discussion lefty. And he's troubled as
we are, by the the angry, bloodthirsty woke mob. And
he tweets a lot, and he's a crazy smart guy
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about the phenomenon of anti racism and critical race theory
and wokeness and and all of it. I think he
might be going crazy. He claims he's not, And I
think he's going crazy. Do you I think this is
driving him? You think the stress is getting to him? Well,
I just hope he keeps cranking out his smartness while
while his sanity last. Someone he tweets, actually like thirty
people in the last hour or two told me they
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have to sit through an anti racist slash diversity training
for work tomorrow and ask for advice. Here's something you
can really do that works. Ask calibrated questions. Ask questions
about definitions. So when you say racist and anti racist
you don't mean like the normal definition. Sound confused? This
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is important. You're there to learn, after all. Don't fight back.
Just be a really slow learner and ask questions to expose.
Ask questions about implications, like so, if I become an
anti racist, am I still a racist? How do I
stop being racist? How does this pro graham make me
not racist again? You're there to learn, so sound like
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it's slower. First, First of all, I wonder how prevalent
this is. Is this the new going to be the new?
Like sexual harassment training? Yes, that everybody's taking a work well,
as he said, he's had dozens of people in the
last couple hours. Hey, I got dragged. I gotta go
to one of those two. I wonder if we'll be
doing that. And secondly, um see, am I a person
(31:26):
who wants to make America better place? Am I afraid
of an ideology taking over that's going to destroy the nation?
And I want to, you know, stand athwart to Yale
stop or um, do I just want to keep my job,
in which case I would keep my mouth shutting that training,
sign the piece of paper, and go back to my
cubicle so that the boss doesn't say that person is
asking all the questions. We need to get rid of them. Yeah. Well,
(31:47):
I would suggest that if you feel the need to respond,
this is a great way to do it. On the
other hand, rolling your eyes that your your compatriots there
in the office and just waiting till it's over is
another strap. Although I've clicked you know, yes, I've taken
the sexual harassment training and a variety of other things
many times over my life. I'd want to read the
fine print on this one. Yes, yes, I will tell
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you this. Most of this training, well, let me put
it to you like this. Ten percent of it is
to address the problem it says it's there to address.
The other nine is so that your company slash corporation
can say, when the lawyers come after him, whoa, whoa, whoa,
we trained our people. In fact, Joe signed a piece
(32:31):
of paper saying he'd taken the training, so we did
our part. Don't sue us, sue him. That's why most
of this exists. On the other hand, this uh list
of questions is less about the specifics of being in
a training session and more about just the principles of
all so anyway, try to get them to say, you
can't stop being a racist and the contradictions. Wait, so
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if color blindness means not seeing race and that makes
me racist, seeing race make me racist? Is race supposed
to matter or not matter? I'm confused? Slow learner mode, activate,
make them explain it and make it look hard to learn.
It's about if. If it's about implicit bias, learn to
gain the test. It's actually very easy. Then report this.
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Sometimes you take it. They're talking about the tests you
have to take that show your implicitly biased. Sometimes you
take it and it gives you a strong pro black bias,
other times strong pro white. What gives This part is
kind of confusing, but moving along, ask them really obvious
questions like doesn't making us focus on race make the
issue more sensitive? And doesn't a reporting system make it
harder to work with people we don't trust, Make them
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explain the practical failures away and look silly. This isn't
just a fun strategy that can work, especially on the
people around you. It's actually court of the literature. You
can even mention it to show what a good interested
student you are. Um. For instance, Barbara Applebaum says in
Being White, Being Good, it's a book. Apparently it is
(34:02):
a book, apparently because it was that ebooks are Kindle,
it was Kindle Amazon. So when I was on my
Amazon Kindle app yesterday, it's got recommended books, and they're
all these woke racist you're you're racist books that are
so popular, and that's everything they're recommending to me. That's
the only thing I should be reading completely from one,
(34:24):
I think, very narrow point of view. That's what's being
recommended for readers now by Amazon. This, this whole thing
is troubling. Yeah. Yeah, But in her book, she says
the only legitimate way to disagree is by asking challenging
questions to understand to eventually agree. So do that, take
that vibe and approach, be a slow learner and points
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subversively at the problems. Again. You know, if you want
to stick your neck out at your your workplace, that's
how you ought to do it. I get it. Um Oh,
I like this, by the way, he says, if you
can pull it off recorded try to get them on
audio saying reprehensible stuff. You don't have to force this,
it comes out naturally, or get caught up and confused
(35:09):
and contradictions or nonsense. Don't get fired. Play along and subvert. Wait,
so are we talking about real racism or systemic racism? Okay,
if systemic racism is real racism, what do we call
real racism? So we don't get them confused. So we
can all be racist because of systemic racism even if
there's no real racism. That's some good subverting. Oh boy.
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Then he gets into the whole white fragility thing, which
is one of the great rhetorical traps of my lifetime,
where if you say I'm a racist, well then you
you get beaten down by the mob. And if you
say I'm not a racist, then you're guilty of white fragility,
which proves you're a racist and you get beaten down
by the mob. It's very much like denying your a
witch back in the day. In fact, it's the same
(35:55):
rhetorical trap. Yeah. Well, I've recommended many times, you know,
just Tay can any of James Lyndsay's YouTube videos or
podcast he he talks about the same thing over and
over and over again. But it's it's really interesting stuff.
And the point of this whole game is a setting
up rules. You can't win, right exactly, You're always on
the defensive. Well, it's funny. That's a variation of what
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I and Randy used to talk about, which is, you know,
we have so many rules, we will find you guilty
of them, and then you are under our power. You're
a lawbreaker and we will break you. Um and and
they're pursuing the same the same techniques. Hey, on the
topic of taking down various statues and things like that
in California Sutter from Sutter's Fort and maybe learned about
(36:37):
it and down. How about Eli Yale? He was a
slave trader? Somebody texted, is that true? Eli Yale was
a slave trader? I have to do a little digging
on that. Oh what was it? What was the other
one I heard the other day? That would be a
complicated one. Oh, James Penny. I'm pretty sure it was
James Penny, for whom Penny Lane the Beatles song. Uh, well,
the song was named after the street. The street was
(36:58):
named after the dude. He was involved in the slave
trade too, or something similar. So uh. There are some
who want the Beatles to change the name of Penny
Lane Lane to Dane Dede. You just have to bleep
it out, Fenny Lane, Kenny Lane. There you'd go, Kenny right,
attribute to Kenny Rogers right. Armstrong and Jetty
There is Armstrong and get the Bird's place of Taller Radio,
all these idiots of foods and jackass on radio. What
an introduction that was? Holy godh gosh, nobody does it better.
We don't want another incident here. Good. It's such a
bizarre world. I apologize for that, all right. Go, you
are not crazy, Your views are not evil fishers Ed mcmiyon,
(00:29):
and not he Armstrong and Getty Eddie Eddie. Why from
a studio cz here you know what it is. It's
a dimly lit room deeper than the bowels of the
(00:51):
Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And hey, everybody today under
the two ledge of our general manager, America's peace officer,
your local police department. There you go. That just like
a tip of the cap sign of respect for a
tough job. That's sort of thing. Yeah, just certainly the
object of discussions. He says. I was just in the
(01:13):
bathroom doing my hair. That's where I was. I do
my hair before I come in. You what now a
drug code when you have very little hair like I do.
If when you get up in the morning it's all
matted down on one side and it looks terrible. Hanson
is nodding. How do you recognize this experience from other
(01:34):
people that have had that problem? My hairs all matted down.
It looks ridiculous. So I have to get my hands
wet and rub it through it, rub my head to
get it all fluffed. The tiny little hair is all
fluffed up again. He was being serious. Yes, I'm being serious.
He got practically no horror, all being completely serious. Dare
you to show up one day with matted hair and
see if any of us started dudes, so we don't
(01:56):
notice anything. Yeah, exactly, I could show up with a
pink afro and you notice anyway. So I was in
the bathroom doing my hair and y beautiful hair, and
I was reminded that i'd heard a story that flushing
the toilet can send coronavirus particles into the air. Yes,
(02:16):
questioning whether you should flush the toilet as much, or
if you should get some sort of remote control flushing
so you can flush it when you're out of the
room or something. I heard a doctor saying he breathes
more slowly and less deeply when he's in a bathroom
in hale and stuff down deep into his lungs. That's
pretty interesting, huh. So, but by the way, it fellas
(02:38):
like he were more susceptible to the Corona bald guys.
The story came out last week, ten days ago something
like that. Doesn't make any difference whether my stubble has
been fluffed or not. I hate to admit this as
a Harry Harry man with a thick, lustrous head of
chestnut hair. But bald fellers have more androgens and some
(02:58):
male hormones, which is why I'm so incredibly effeminate. Um
and and that you've seen that the death toll among
men is much higher than women and the outcomes tend
to be worse. Blah blah blah. They think it has
to do with those manly manly hormones, but nobody's quite
sure why. One of the many question marks attached to this,
and you have more of those if you don't have hair. Yes,
(03:19):
I didn't know that. That is one of the indicators.
My kids, my my one son particularly has hair like
he's Eric clapped in in nineteen sixty seven, just the big,
full wavy It's crazy. Yeah, I know him all the time.
I'd like to have had your hair one day, just
for the options involved. A couple of my kids have
hair thicker than the bears. It's amazing. Um. Back to
(03:40):
the toilet. So as I read more about where you
can and can't can't catch the coronavirus, yet another article
in the Wall Street Journal today about that the science
is in UM, I know how it's it's so much
about breathing in close contact, rarely from surfaces. UM. Very
difficult to get outdoors. So it's in a closed room,
(04:01):
close to someone else for a length of time. That's
that's what does you But so bat and you know,
I feel like I'm relatively safe most of the places
I go. But bathrooms I don't know who's been in there.
And then you got the coffin sneezing, blowing your nose
and flush and toilets, the droplets in the air. Yeah,
caldron of disease. Maybe I shouldn't stay out of bathrooms,
(04:22):
well in the whole, in a closed room, extended amount
of time talking to people. I think the President needs
to outlaw meetings at the office. There you go, probably
let's say for the next ten years, Let's see how
it goes. Wouldn't that be awesome? If what comes out
of this the silver lining is doing away with pointless meetings,
or they gotta be two minutes or less, right, because
(04:42):
you're gonna do that. You're gonna do that. You're gonna
do that. Anybody got a question? Yes? Should I do
it this way? Yes? Okay, I have a question. Are
we gonna have the summer picnic? No, you're exposing us
all to more possible virus with your stupid question that
has nothing to do with what we're here for. Silence, jackass, Silence, jackass.
If I'm your CEO, that's the way meetings would go.
(05:05):
I'm willing to accept any offers that come my way.
And the questions almost always coming from the people that
have the least power or influence over the organization. Yeah,
that's so common. You just started here last week. Put
your hand out exactly exactly. You work like eleven hours
a week. You're just clearly killing time. See, you make
(05:26):
more money. The rest of us have to get back
to work or nod from you or no offense. But
just with your position, you could do a great job
or a horrible job and nobody would know the difference. Right,
it's just minor impact. So no questions from you don't
make me Silence You jackass. Let's introduce everybody in the
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squad there to kick off the show. There's our board
operator Michael Angelo, President button's flipping toggles, pulling levers. Sorry
this morning, Michael, go ahead. Yesterday, during the eight o'clock hour,
we had a horrific scene when I almost ended the
hour at an improper time, and it was because I
couldn't see the clock. And just you know, I so
yesterday I finally had to swallow my pride and I
had executive producer enlarged the clock on my screen and
(06:11):
now I can see it beautifully and it will never
ever happen again. Keep your fund for the older man. Yes,
keeping time will never be a problem again. What times
your step in tub being wow? Wow? The youth on
the staff, that's ages and staff on that's hate speech.
Getting yourself a walk in tub and bigger buttons. There
(06:32):
you go, that's all right. So I went home, cried,
swallowed my pride, and there came back today. Fantastic. You
got to adapt. Um. Do you have one of those
remote controls at home, the really big numbers that you
can get. No, not yet, but keeping time will never
be a problem again. I'll be on it. Excellent. Um,
there is positive Sean who smile lights up the room.
How are you showing doing very well? But I do
have a correction to many minutes. It was thanks Michael
(06:56):
was timing. It was it was yesterday's show. We were
just cussing one of the many Karen's that was that
finds our finds herself in the news cycle these days,
and I got my Karen's confused. I asserted that the Karen,
the California Karen we were talking about at one point
during the engagement, said something to the effect of go
back to where you came from, that was a different Karen.
(07:18):
I apologize here, despite the request from my Twitter mentions,
I will not be issuing a written apology to all Karen's,
but I will say hashtag too many Karen's. Okay, yeah,
we got that story completely wrong. Actually, it's just top
to bottom, and I'm to blame because I I brought
it up fine moments. The The overall gist of it
was the same though, which was my point. The the
(07:40):
details of that particular story, I really wasn't that interested in.
It's just that overall phenomenon of that sort of thing.
As her husband now has been fired. So not only
did the Karen have to lose her job for doing
something that the society decided was no good for, you know,
an hour on Twitter, but her husband had to go. Right.
(08:01):
But what was unclear to me at the time, and
apparently I still have no idea, is did he play
an active role in it or is he just like THEO,
taped it and allowed it to happen. I guess like
the l A Galaxy, his his mouthy hot wife made
some untoward comments on Twitter or something. The Galaxy let
him go because he's got a mouthy hot wife. Really yeah, yeah,
(08:25):
I don't think the fact that she was hot went
into the decision. How did that the decision of marrier? True?
I am going to in one random day in the
next five days, I'm gonna come in with my hair
matted down and see if anybody notices I am on
a letter time all thought you were joking you have stubble. No,
I was doing my hair. That's what I was doing
(08:46):
before I walked in the room. Was in the bathroom, Okay,
my hair you made? Did they have video camera in there?
Perhaps you could go back and then look at the video.
I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Jogetti on this Wednesday, June. We
are arm strong and getting we approve of this program.
Let's begin fluffing our stubble. According to FCC rules and regulations,
the show begins officially at mark. The United States didn't
(09:09):
inherit slavery from anybody. We created it. That is Senator
Tim Caine, who is willing to say anything, no matter
how stupid, inane, or inaccurate, if it scores political points. Well,
he was vice presidential candidate too, Yes, yes he was.
He was. Recall, that is unfreaking believable. That's a heck
(09:34):
of a thing to say. That's an evil thing to yeah,
that's horrid. Does not make things better, And it's it's
popular now in MSNBC Scarborough and all of them do it.
It's to regularly refer to our four hundred years of
systemic racism based on that sixteen nineteen project. The founding
of this country was founded on slavery. That's what it's
always been about. We've you know, institutionalized racism on purpose
(09:57):
from the beginning and it continues. Man. We we need
to work that out as a narrative and in our nation. Well,
and we have folks being dragged into training sessions all
over the country now where they are being taught to
be woke at their office, at their workplace. It's very
much like the uh, you know, the non sexual harassment
(10:17):
training we've taken and everybody had to go in a
room or some dope man or woman and instructed you
on how not to sexually harass. And of course studies
have shown sexual harassment rises after those for some reason.
But um, so yeah, those woke classes are now being
required at a lot of employers. Really and here's here's
the issue. And didn't get any of the what they
(10:39):
teach you in those things to absolutely um. But the
problem is, and most of the terrified and or just
um uninformed employers and executives don't understand, is these activist
groups have redefined all the terms that you think, you know,
like racism, You are a racist unless you adopt wholly
(11:04):
their political views. That is what you must sign the
forms and give away, you know, your entire intellect to
these activist groups. Otherwise you are a racist. So when
you make your employees pledged not to be a racist,
that's what you're making them pledged to do. More on
that James Lindsay is on fire on the Twitter machine
on that. That's that's good stuff right there. How's mailbag look?
(11:26):
Oh my gosh, epic, It's just it's fabulous. Wow, you laugh,
you'll cry. Comments on anything we've said, including do you
fluff your hair? Four one two nine five k f
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five KFTC are strong the armstrong and Getty showed I've
(12:01):
been drinking her syrup since I was a tiny lad.
But Aunt Jemima is going away. We'll talk about that
coming up. And also a one hundred and thirty six
year old Christopher Columbus statue being removed from a park
in St. Louis. I want to talk about that phenomenon
as it sweeps the nation. Yeah, troubled times. Have you
noticed that crazy man crazy? There's a little hope on
(12:26):
the Chinese bat fever, then steroid if you're one of
the very few who gets it and the very few
who has a severe case of it. Um they've they've
cut deaths by like, which is, you know, if you've
got it, you're hoping more like but at least there's hope. Mailbag,
you can email us mail bag and I'm strong and
(12:48):
getty dot com and there to register opinions, send along
something you think we ought to be talked about. Whatever
freedom loving quote of the day from Stephen Fry today.
We've we've had a couple of Stephen Fry quotes. And
I really even know who he is, so I checked around.
He's an English writer and actor and director and kind
of a renaissance man. He is a liberal, but a
(13:11):
kind of an old school liberal. I'm a fan, like
is he a contemporary like alive today or from the second? Yeah? Good,
good question. Well he's he's tweeting, so there's there's a
hint um he's yeah, he appears to be I don't know,
in his sixties. Maybe he was buddies with a Hitchens. Okay, okay,
Chris Hitchens Liberal, Yeah, okay, anyway, he wrote the following
(13:34):
social media thanks to Chris for sending us along. Not
Chris Hitchens, He's past. This is a different Chris. No.
Social media is a stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self
righteous who loved his second guest to link to conclusions
and be offended, worst, to be offended on behalf of others.
They do not even know, it's as nasty and unwholesome
(13:55):
characteristic as can be imagined. It doesn't matter whether they
think they're defend women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists. The
ghastliness is absolutely the same. Hard to argue with that
that's good. Is it gonna take a full generation to
end up with only people who have grown up with
(14:16):
Twitter around for it to to settle down? That's an
interesting question. I'm more focused on whether the classical liberal
liberal or the woke militant religious liberal will triumph. Life
experience tends to get you off of the woke fanatical thing.
(14:38):
Although if you can postpone any sort of rational thought, um,
then maybe you can hang with it. Thought you might
enjoy this, writes John. This is a joke Jack, A priest,
a rabbit, and a minister walk into a bar. The
bartender asks the rabbit, don't you have a rabbit? Says
(15:02):
I don't know. I'm only here because of auto correct.
A priest, a rabbit, and a minister. That's pretty fun.
I know that's a good joke. I read that. I
cracked up. I said I'm gonna try this on my wife.
I readed her. She gets that mystified look, and then
(15:23):
cracks up rab well, I'm not gonna explain it to you.
Don't get it. You don't get it. He says, Oh, shot,
I'm getting the duck out of here, then walks out
of the bar. Yes, well said, let's see. Oh, Matt says,
you guys used a word a few weeks ago. I'm
racking my brain trying to remember it because I've been
(15:46):
googling over half an hour. Google is evil. By the way,
Google is completely evil. We'll be talking about that, please.
It's when something is named. You would have noticed that.
It's when something is named after the fact, essentially a name,
possibly before, but everyone is said, not a word for
it after its original conception. I don't even remember discussing
(16:07):
the concept. Yeah, that does not ring a bell at all.
I wondered if anybody else. You're probably listening to a
more erudite radio show perhaps or more podcast or something. Yeah,
I don't have any ideas. You know, we do talk about,
you know, names of things and sometimes origins of words.
But no, that's that we're I'm we're as mystified as
(16:29):
you are, Sir Rich Rights. Hey fellas, yesterday you talked
about a perfect storm for riots after the election. I
live in Portland, where people rioted four years ago before
Trumpet even started the job. Now, after four years of
the world being indoctrinated about how horribly is there will
for sure be riots no matter what my perfect storm was.
They believe a lot of the George Floyd protests and
(16:50):
protests around the world that have been uh pretty you know, heated.
They're trying to figure out why exactly are these protests
so hot right now, and they think it's because we've
all been locked The combination of being locked up, worried
about your job, worried about your health, it's made everybody
like anxious and angry and crazy, and that's going to
continue through the summer up to election time. You combine
that with a close election and some severe problems with
(17:12):
elections if the COVID's going on and uh distancing and
machines not working in ballidly you know, mail in ballots
and all this sort of stuff. See the problems they
had in Georgia a week or so ago. You got
a recipe for some severe rioting and a real belief
that this election actually wasn't legit. No, that would be terrible,
and half the country in a close election, no matter
(17:33):
which direction it goes, believes that's not my president. I
think that's likely where we end up. See Armstrong and
Getty show a quart to the reason bull fewer Americans
(17:59):
have a negative a vice president Joe Biden then they
did of Hillary Clinton said Clinton, stop asking people leave
me audio poles. That's pretty funny. Oh boys. So here's
a couple of stories that I don't know what I
think of. I realized as a talk show host, I'm
(18:19):
supposed to have a very solid opinion yes and that's
the one and defend it strong, and people who disagree
with me are evil. But I don't know what I
think about either one of these stories. I'll start with
PepsiCo owns Aunt Jemima Syrup. Didn't know that they own
practically everything you eat a drink. PepsiCo doesn't anyway, They've
decided to drop the whole Aunt Jemima label thing. Now
(18:44):
Aunt Jemima there's a black woman on the bottle of syrup.
That's all I really know about it, and that's the
that's the extent that I've thought about it my whole life.
This gets to well exactly This gets to the I
don't know what to think about this thing. I'm I
don't want to get too far down the road of
systemic racism and racism you don't see in white privilege,
(19:05):
because we'll be off on that subject. But I feel
like Aunt Jemima being on the bottle of syrup, which
I've used since I as long as I can remember,
had no impact on me whatsoever in terms of my
my thoughts about Black America. I really honestly believe that
I believe it had zero impact on me. It's also
(19:27):
gonna have zero impact at being gone, So you know,
I'm not like angry that it's going away. Is separate
to the statutes I'm about to talk about. I don't
think there. I don't think I don't think there's any
possible damage that could be done by removing Aunt Jemima
from the syrup. So you're saying that if you went
into an accounting firm, say with help for for help
with your taxes, and in a black woman or to
(19:50):
meet with you, you wouldn't think this accountant is just
like Aunt Jema. Believe I've got any lingering anything about
Aunt Jemima being on the Sir the sir let alone
something deeply negative. I just don't believe it. Now. Yeah, well,
I've heard some stuff about an Jemima that is not
so savory. I heard it from Mrs Butterworth, who is
(20:13):
my syrup. I also feel like if you introduced aunt
Jemima today, but you and you go back with the old,
uh slave woman look that they had up until a
couple of years ago. Remember they changed the look of Angela.
It was kind of an old timey mammy, early twentieth century. Yeah,
but I think I think if you introduced it today
and presented the story as this is trying to show
(20:36):
that black women who worked for white families contributed. Also,
here's someone who's recipe for syrup was so loved it
was stolen and appropriated and used all over Southern America,
became a national brand. Right if you spun it like that,
you could make a hero. It's a positive thing to
spin syrup. Well, no, I'm yeah, Ultimately, I say, well,
(20:58):
my whole point is, I don't think it has any
impact on anybody at all. I don't believe it is
a symbol of racism or rain. I don't think it's anything.
I don't think it has any impact any more than
the than the what was the ivory soap baby contributed
to attitudes toward infants? I don't know. I just these
brand names are lucky Charms is contributed to racism against
(21:21):
my people, the Irish anyway, um, so like, but I'm
not certain about that. But I just feel like it
did not cause me to have any negative feelings about
Black America in any way, having drank drank bottles of
and Jemima's ear throughout my life on the statue things.
So they just took down a one hundred and thirty
six year old of Christopher Columbus statue in a park
(21:43):
in St. Louis. It's been there a very long time. Um.
It was originally put up to honor contributions of immigrants
in America, which is something we're supposed to be doing,
not white ones. Um. I guess Portuguese is stupid Portuguese.
My only problem with this I think, well, for if
(22:06):
anybody's ever listened on Columbus Day, you know it's right.
It's the whole Columbus thing. I don't care about at all.
It doesn't I think it's a completely different sort of
thing than the Confederate thing, and certainly a different sort
of thing than taken down Thomas Jefferson. But but just
in general, the thing that bothers me the most is
(22:28):
it's being decided by mobs. That's not the way we
should decide these things. Mobs shouldn't decide what's up in
the park. I would like there to be a movement
toward you hate the statue, you think it's gonna come down.
Let's let's let's get petitions signed, Let's go to city
council meetings, let's get it on the ballot for the
(22:49):
next election and get it removed. And you might easily
have enough support in your community to have the statue
taken down. That way of doing it fine, But mobs
deciding what acts or statues get to be is definitely
no way to run a country. And that's the way
it's going right now. The mobs didn't bring the statue down,
but they had defaced it and spray painted it so
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many times. The park finally said, we just can't afford
to provide enough security to keep this from being to face.
It's like the Heckler's veto Yeah, they're afraid at this
point as it is, old enough and carved by some
famous carver of statues that it is an artifact and
actual work of art. They decided we got to move
it into a museum to protect it. But the mob
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should not decide I stay something what comes down. Well,
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I almost hate saying it
out loud. Not that like the Antifa maniacs are listening
to this show or anything, but they so discredit themselves
when they do things as an angry mob, as opposed
to pursuing the levers of our republic like you described,
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good solid activism. That would then, and this is the
part I really don't want to hear them here, they
would learn how the process works. They would be better organized,
They would know who to petition and in what way.
It would probably be more effective than launching their ridiculous,
woke schemes on the rest of us. I almost prefer
them acting like angry idiots. Well, that was the argument
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Barack Obama was making a couple of weeks ago about
getting organized at your your local level, going to city
council meetings, voting, that sort of thing. There's easily enough
power in a lot of communities to get these statues
taken down in a democratic fashion as opposed to in
the middle of the night with ropes and you know bats.
That's no way to make decisions. I find that very,
(24:37):
very troubling. I do like this, uh, this movement that's
going right now. Is this just in Tennessee or is
this all across the nation sewn? I think it's just
in Tennessee, but I'm trying to get it going all across.
In Tennessee, there is a movement going to replace all
statues with Dolly Parton statues. American Treasure simply reads wrote Joe,
(24:58):
Lene and I will always of you in the same day.
What have you done? Right? Right? Wow? There you go,
or some sort of movement of people throwing up Columbus
statues all over the country. You know, you show up
to Main Street, they're like three Columbus statues. That would
be funny. I mean, I'm sure you can get some
sort of cheap plaster cast or something like that and
(25:21):
crank out like a hundred fifty of them for a
thousand bucks. I'd kick into that. Not because I have
any particular interest or pride in Columbus. I really the
whole glorifying Columbus thing is pretty silly, absolutely, um, but
I just I love the trollery of it. Making in
him an evil spreader of genocide is also silly. Ryan,
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He's just a product of his time, like you're the
product of your time. The biggest Columbus statue, obviously, is
the one Columbus circle there right at the corner of
Central Park in Manhattan. That's that's what. That one's a
big deal, and that's when you'll know the mob is
really taken over. Yeah, any way, was that compared to
the Robert E. Lee statue that was like sixty feet high?
(26:05):
I meant big in terms of importance on a height. Yeah,
I haven't been there in ages anyway? Where were we?
I s So you will likely, if you are part
of corporate America, you will likely be dragged into a
wokeness anti racist slash diversity training session. And the fabulous,
(26:28):
the brilliant James Lindsay. He's a lefty professor, but he
hates the the woke cancel culture. He has a great
series of well he has some suggestions for how to
approach it if indeed you are forced to attend one
of these. Anybody have any thoughts in the whole and
Jemima thing, is that actually harming in America? I mean,
it wasn't helping in America either. My care My reaction
(26:52):
to this conversation is that it's making me hungry for pancakes.
That does sound good, doesn't Yeah, and a couple of
sausage links on the side or bacon whatever you got,
have you had? Do you do you ever drink the
light syrup? Drink it? Stop saying that I just have
a couple on ice and I have pancakes once every
four years. At this point in my life, was that
(27:12):
just once a week I play the pancakes. I gained
two pounds, no kidding, or at least once a week
on pancakes. But I'm flipping love pancakes. No punny. Like
a lot of diet stuff, it just tastes like it's
so much worse for you. I mean, you look at
the label and there's less calories, but the chemicals involved
in diet soda light syrup, that sort of sting is
(27:33):
your body is screaming, this is gonna give you cancer.
Allegedly back when I was a pancake eater, which sounds
like some sort of slur um I got onto a
real maple syrup. Oh yeah, that's when my one son
will only drink that, and it stops saying drink Nobody
drinks syrup. Nobody says that. You've been saying it for
(27:54):
so long anyway, But there's there are horrific amounts of
sugar in it. But that's probably well, it's it's not
good for you, but it's probably better. Got to wap
it up whatever chemicals. You know, it's got to be
some corporation is squirting out of their factory and pokeps
in maple syrup. You only need just a little bit,
a little bit, just drowned it. Yeah, then you drank it.
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Eat on the rock. Text line is four got these
pancakes from restaurant called pancakes egg cetera. It's kind of
a plant words. Oh god, hard to imagine he didn't
get elected text line four one five k FTZ are
Strong and the Armstrong and Getty Show. Text line Soon
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we'll have to name more Columbus, change the name or
Columbus land in Columbus, Ohio. Absolutely right, and landed in Columbus, Ohio,
declared it his everybody knows that m if evil. Take
two if power corrupts, and there's nothing more powerful than
(29:15):
big tech right now, beware big tech. They're evil. More
on that to come. And when they're not evil, they're
stupid because they're so big and and and powerful. Being
stupid is not good. You're talking about your facebooks, your Google's,
That's who I'm talking about, your your Twitter's, Twitter's. Do
(29:37):
you know who James Lindsay is. He's a professor Portland State, right.
He's a lefty, a nice fellow, but he's a classic
free thought, uh debate discussion lefty. And he's troubled as
we are, by the the angry, bloodthirsty woke mob. And
he tweets a lot, and he's a crazy smart guy
(30:00):
about the phenomenon of anti racism and critical race theory
and wokeness and and all of it. I think he
might be going crazy. He claims he's not, And I
think he's going crazy. Do you I think this is
driving him? You think the stress is getting to him? Well,
I just hope he keeps cranking out his smartness while
while his sanity last. Someone he tweets, actually like thirty
people in the last hour or two told me they
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have to sit through an anti racist slash diversity training
for work tomorrow and ask for advice. Here's something you
can really do that works. Ask calibrated questions. Ask questions
about definitions. So when you say racist and anti racist
you don't mean like the normal definition. Sound confused? This
(30:42):
is important. You're there to learn, after all. Don't fight back.
Just be a really slow learner and ask questions to expose.
Ask questions about implications, like so, if I become an
anti racist, am I still a racist? How do I
stop being racist? How does this pro graham make me
not racist again? You're there to learn, so sound like
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it's slower. First, First of all, I wonder how prevalent
this is. Is this the new going to be the new?
Like sexual harassment training? Yes, that everybody's taking a work well,
as he said, he's had dozens of people in the
last couple hours. Hey, I got dragged. I gotta go
to one of those two. I wonder if we'll be
doing that. And secondly, um see, am I a person
(31:26):
who wants to make America better place? Am I afraid
of an ideology taking over that's going to destroy the nation?
And I want to, you know, stand athwart to Yale
stop or um, do I just want to keep my job,
in which case I would keep my mouth shutting that training,
sign the piece of paper, and go back to my
cubicle so that the boss doesn't say that person is
asking all the questions. We need to get rid of them. Yeah. Well,
(31:47):
I would suggest that if you feel the need to respond,
this is a great way to do it. On the
other hand, rolling your eyes that your your compatriots there
in the office and just waiting till it's over is
another strap. Although I've clicked you know, yes, I've taken
the sexual harassment training and a variety of other things
many times over my life. I'd want to read the
fine print on this one. Yes, yes, I will tell
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you this. Most of this training, well, let me put
it to you like this. Ten percent of it is
to address the problem it says it's there to address.
The other nine is so that your company slash corporation
can say, when the lawyers come after him, whoa, whoa, whoa,
we trained our people. In fact, Joe signed a piece
(32:31):
of paper saying he'd taken the training, so we did
our part. Don't sue us, sue him. That's why most
of this exists. On the other hand, this uh list
of questions is less about the specifics of being in
a training session and more about just the principles of
all so anyway, try to get them to say, you
can't stop being a racist and the contradictions. Wait, so
(32:55):
if color blindness means not seeing race and that makes
me racist, seeing race make me racist? Is race supposed
to matter or not matter? I'm confused? Slow learner mode, activate,
make them explain it and make it look hard to learn.
It's about if. If it's about implicit bias, learn to
gain the test. It's actually very easy. Then report this.
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Sometimes you take it. They're talking about the tests you
have to take that show your implicitly biased. Sometimes you
take it and it gives you a strong pro black bias,
other times strong pro white. What gives This part is
kind of confusing, but moving along, ask them really obvious
questions like doesn't making us focus on race make the
issue more sensitive? And doesn't a reporting system make it
harder to work with people we don't trust, Make them
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explain the practical failures away and look silly. This isn't
just a fun strategy that can work, especially on the
people around you. It's actually court of the literature. You
can even mention it to show what a good interested
student you are. Um. For instance, Barbara Applebaum says in
Being White, Being Good, it's a book. Apparently it is
(34:02):
a book, apparently because it was that ebooks are Kindle,
it was Kindle Amazon. So when I was on my
Amazon Kindle app yesterday, it's got recommended books, and they're
all these woke racist you're you're racist books that are
so popular, and that's everything they're recommending to me. That's
the only thing I should be reading completely from one,
(34:24):
I think, very narrow point of view. That's what's being
recommended for readers now by Amazon. This, this whole thing
is troubling. Yeah. Yeah, But in her book, she says
the only legitimate way to disagree is by asking challenging
questions to understand to eventually agree. So do that, take
that vibe and approach, be a slow learner and points
(34:47):
subversively at the problems. Again. You know, if you want
to stick your neck out at your your workplace, that's
how you ought to do it. I get it. Um Oh,
I like this, by the way, he says, if you
can pull it off recorded try to get them on
audio saying reprehensible stuff. You don't have to force this,
it comes out naturally, or get caught up and confused
(35:09):
and contradictions or nonsense. Don't get fired. Play along and subvert. Wait,
so are we talking about real racism or systemic racism? Okay,
if systemic racism is real racism, what do we call
real racism? So we don't get them confused. So we
can all be racist because of systemic racism even if
there's no real racism. That's some good subverting. Oh boy.
(35:32):
Then he gets into the whole white fragility thing, which
is one of the great rhetorical traps of my lifetime,
where if you say I'm a racist, well then you
you get beaten down by the mob. And if you
say I'm not a racist, then you're guilty of white fragility,
which proves you're a racist and you get beaten down
by the mob. It's very much like denying your a
witch back in the day. In fact, it's the same
(35:55):
rhetorical trap. Yeah. Well, I've recommended many times, you know,
just Tay can any of James Lyndsay's YouTube videos or
podcast he he talks about the same thing over and
over and over again. But it's it's really interesting stuff.
And the point of this whole game is a setting
up rules. You can't win, right exactly, You're always on
the defensive. Well, it's funny. That's a variation of what
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I and Randy used to talk about, which is, you know,
we have so many rules, we will find you guilty
of them, and then you are under our power. You're
a lawbreaker and we will break you. Um and and
they're pursuing the same the same techniques. Hey, on the
topic of taking down various statues and things like that
in California Sutter from Sutter's Fort and maybe learned about
(36:37):
it and down. How about Eli Yale? He was a
slave trader? Somebody texted, is that true? Eli Yale was
a slave trader? I have to do a little digging
on that. Oh what was it? What was the other
one I heard the other day? That would be a
complicated one. Oh, James Penny. I'm pretty sure it was
James Penny, for whom Penny Lane the Beatles song. Uh, well,
the song was named after the street. The street was
(36:58):
named after the dude. He was involved in the slave
trade too, or something similar. So uh. There are some
who want the Beatles to change the name of Penny
Lane Lane to Dane Dede. You just have to bleep
it out, Fenny Lane, Kenny Lane. There you'd go, Kenny right,
attribute to Kenny Rogers right. Armstrong and Jetty
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