June 29, 2023 • 13 mins
A whistleblower has come forward and revealed all of the ways the justice department has been blocking this investigation. Joe breaks it down for us.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There were personal expenses that were taken as business expenses. Prostitutes,
sex club memberships, hotel rooms for purported drug dealers.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well that's quite the lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, that's a little bit of the IRIS whistle blower
up and that was from CBS. Actually, we've got a
lot more on that coming up in just a second,
and then a little bit of analysis from variety of
quarters on that.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
So, the gigantic history making story before us is that
the Justice Department seems to have interfered with a legitimate
tax investigation into the Biden family, and not once and
not in a small way, but in a systematic way
over a long period of time. And that's especially important
(00:48):
because among the other things we're going to get clues
to is the fact that there was a tremendous amount
of money flowing to the Biden family then through a
couple of dozen LLCs and family members, including some who
have never claimed to have any role in UH energy
(01:11):
or law firms or anything like that, in a way
that looks remarkably like a money laundering and b tax evasion.
Gary Shapley was a senior investigator for the I R
S for a number of years. He was an investigator
before that for quite some time, very well thought of
and had given serious responsibilities, like doing the tax investigation
(01:32):
into the son of a president. And at one point
he became so disgusted and so convinced that the investigation
was getting interfered with, he became a whistleblower. He saw
whistleblower status and came forward. That's a background.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I thought, I don't know if these clips include that,
but him talking about, you know, they reached my red line,
and then another whistleblower had a different red line, but
then they reached that guy's red line on this is
too much indeed, Yeah, let's art with thirty two. This
is Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States
of America.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Mister Weiss had in fact more authority than a special
council would have had, as complete as he had, and
has complete authority, as I said, to bring a case
anywhere he wants in his discretion.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Weiss is the federal prosecutor in Maryland under whom the
tax investigation was working. They were going to have him
file the charges, so he has complete authority. According to
Merrick Garland. Hit us with thirty.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
This is a moment in which the Delaware US Attorney,
David Weiss, according to you, had made this disclosure on
October seventh, twenty twenty two, meeting with top irs and
FBI officials, saying.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What So I was there and I witnessed this personally,
and he started with he's not the deciding person whether
or not chargers are filed or not.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Not the deciding person on whether charges are filed with
Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's correct, who was So.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Ultimately this, if you follow the path of where the
venue leads you, that went to the DCUs Attorney's office
in March of twenty twenty two, and they presented this
case to them.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So roll on, Michael, next one.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
That's earth shattering news. So Biden appointed DCUs attorney Matthew
Graves would not allow him to charge in his district.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So I didn't learn that fact until October seventh of
twenty twenty two. So looking back to March of twenty
twenty two, and that's when David Weiss in October seventh,
twenty twenty two, said that the DCUs Attorney's office said,
will not allow us to charge there, and then he
added that he would request special count he requests a
special council authority and was denied in that meeting. I
(03:45):
even had him repeat that because I knew how important
that fact was and I wanted to make sure I
understood it.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So, for technical reasons that aren't worth getting into, Weiss
in Delaware needed to charge file the charges in the
Washington d C Office, and DC said no, we're not
going to let you. And Weiss then appealed to the
DOJ for special council status so he could go above
his head and do the prosecutions he thought were appropriate,
(04:14):
and they said, no, you're not getting that. Just be quiet.
How about the investigation itself? Was that allowed to go
forward in normal fashion? Clip thirty three.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
When we received the attorney client filter reviewed copy of
information from the search warrant to Apple, which produced that document,
we went back to the prosecutors and we requested to
take various investigative steps, and they were not supported. And
when they weren't supported, they said, well, maybe he wasn't
(04:46):
co located with him, so well, we can take investigative
steps to talk about tripity if that happened. And they
didn't support anything in relation to that effort. And it's
consistent with their ongoing theme of not allowing us to
pursue or ask questions about President Biden, the big.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Guy that needed more context than you had. I apologize
for that. He makes the point early in the interview
something I said the other day, but he filled it
in because he does it for a living. An IRS
investigation is an investigation of where the money came from,
where it flowed, and where it went if you're investigating
(05:27):
tax evasion, tax fraud, that sort of thing. And they
were continually told, no, you're not going to ask about
that money that flowed in that direction. Don't even ask
the questions. And they were flabbergasted because this guy does
this for a living.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And this is from the party and the administration that's
constantly howling about the rich paying their fair share. Too
many fat cats getting away with not paying their taxes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's hilarious. It is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
So in this clip, Shapley's talking about a search warrant.
They became aware that Hunter's financial records were in a
storage unit and they were sure there was evidence there
and they wanted to go search it. And here's what
happened in thirty.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Four, transitioning into another search warrant was on a storage
unit in northern Virginia, and during the day of action
on December eighth of twenty twenty, we got updated information
that said that records were in that location that were
you know, that would be evidence in this particular investigation,
(06:26):
and the prosecutors initially were supportive of it, and Affidavi
was drafted the night of December eight, twenty twenty to
go forward for approval. Eventually the prosecutors decided they didn't
support it. So I called US Attorney David Weiss with
my senior executive on the phone, and we said we
(06:47):
needed to execute this search warrant. He responded that the
prosecutors didn't want to, and I asked if in thirty days,
if that storage unit wasn't accessed, and that was the
deadline for the document request that was served on that day,
then we cute the search warrant and he agreed to that,
and no sooner I had gotten off the phone with
David Wise had we learned that the prosecutors were informing
(07:10):
defense counsel of that storage unit and the evidence that
existed there, So it completely ruined our chance to access
those unfettered.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So they let Hunter, know they're coming for your papers.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You better move them.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yes, yeah, clean out that storage unit. Wow, that is
unfreaking believable. And this guy is testifying to all this
stuff under oath in front of Congress. He's not just
doing interviews with Brett Baer moving along well only he
makes clear it's frustrating, but it's kind of a repeat
(07:43):
that we'll he said, we'll never know what was inside
that storage unit, and we were sure there was evidence there.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
God, Hunter, Biden's lifestyle sounds tiring. Mean you got you're
getting updated on you get better move those papers out
of that building because the IRS is on to you.
Oh you're that stripper and Oklahoma's on the phone, say
she's pregnant. Your drug dealer's calling. Hey, the police found
a gun, say it's registered to you. I mean, just
(08:12):
all that stuff would be very, very tiring. Yeah, the
Ukrainians called and they're pissed.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Wow. One more on tipping off of the Biden family
by the Justice Department coming up after a quick word
from our friends at my pillow dot com. They're running
this crazy massive clothes out sale on They're all season slippers, Jack,
I know you're a stickler for many layers on your slippers.
My slippers have an exclusive four layer design you won't
(08:40):
find in any other slipper. Super comfortable, very durable.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I like seven layer burritos and four layer slippers. That's
just the way I roll. Right now, if you use
a promo code Getty, you can get these all season
slippers for twenty five bucks. Their regularly about one hundred
and fifty, so that's over one hundred and twenty dollars
in savings. Now you're limited to ten pairs of checkout.
They will sell out, so go get your ten bear.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, I remember I first slipped them on. Thought well,
these are like shoe quality slippers. Go to my pillow
dot com, click on the radio listeners Square. That's right,
Radio listener Square to grab a pair of all season
slippers for twenty five dollars, the regularly almost one hundred
and fifty. Limited again, as Jack said, to ten pairs
of check out. Promo code Getty g E T T Y.
So you go to MyPillow dot com, use the Radio
(09:24):
listeners Square and enter the promo code getty.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So that's funny. You know, I was stumbling fumbling, bumbling.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I realized I developed the habit as a little kid
of like getting real close to what I'm reading, And
now my.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Eyes don't work like that. But I'm still holding stuff
too close to read. I'm old, I need to hold
it away. That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, I know, it's just a habit, of physical habit
of leaning into what I'm reading.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But most people just start holding stuff further and further
away by, you know, naturally, because it helps you focus.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But you well, of course, yeah, you go ahead and
keep her up close. It's inexplicable. I don't know. I
don't know what's wrong with me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So they did research. Now this is prior to yesterday's interview,
I'm sure, but fewer than fifty percent of CNN and
MSNBC viewers are aware of key issues around this whole
Hunter Biden thing, less than half their audience, So.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
That makes it hard to get the scandal going.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, it'll take a while, but this one's so big
and unavoidable, all right. On the theme of tipping off
the target of an investigation, thirty six Michael.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
That happened in interviews as well as far as sharing
information before they happened.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So Decemmuary twenty twenty, we finally were going over in
this investigation after several delays, which of course we were
waiting until after the election to execute this at the
direction of the prosecutors and US Attorney Wiss in this case.
So we eventually did a day of action where we
were approaching the subject and several other witnesses. We had
(10:55):
a plan of how we're going to approach Hunter Biden
that morning, and ultimately we found out that the night
before I was told the FBI headquarters contacted Secret Service
and the Transition team and told them of the pending
action the next day. So ultimately, I don't know how
it affected the witnesses, but there was clear opportunity for
(11:17):
them to be tipped off before we even approach them.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And it's something i'd say, I'd say, it's dirty stuff.
We have a minute, Yeah, we have another minute. This
stuff I want to get to this segment. Go ahead
with thirty seven. It's pretty self explanatory, all.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Right, I'm just going to read from this. I'm sitting
here with my father and we would like to understand
why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director,
I would like to resolve this now before it gets
out of hand, and now means tonight, and z if
I get a caller text from anyone involved in this
other than you, Zang or the chairman, I will make
certain that between the man sitting next to me and
(11:56):
every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold
a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction.
I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.
Seems kind of cut and dry.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yes, And the importance of that WhatsApp message is that
as an IRS criminal investigator, we need to understand all
the financial flows of money. We're working in investigation on
Hunter Biden and we're trying to assess a true and
accurate tax assessment for him. So if there is money
that's going elsewhere, whether it's President Biden or elsewhere, we
(12:27):
need to follow the investigative steps to ensure that happens.
And they were just not allowed in this particular investigation.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
And there's one more bit of detail in the next
clip Michael Lin will discuss.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
And as far as following the money, did you get
that far down the investigative.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Track concerning Hunter Biden? I feel like we have a
very good grasp on the income flows.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yes, and is it millions?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was around eight point three
million from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Wow, he is a successful businessman.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Here's the significance of this, because I think people have
been looking at that whole threatening my dad's sitting next
to me message on its own and assessing it significant.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
On its own.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
You have the target of a criminal tax investigation saying
in writing, my dad is my partner. He wants the
money and so do I. You need to send it
to us. And when the irs goes to say to determine, okay,
is this true? Is that the way the money was
flowing as he claimed in writing? They're told by the
(13:39):
Justice Department you don't even ask that question.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's the significance of it.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Not whether that snapchat or whatever WhatsApp proves anything on
its own, but it's absolutely a legitimate investigative clue.
There were personal expenses that were taken as business expenses. Prostitutes,
sex club memberships, hotel rooms for purported drug dealers.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well that's quite the lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, that's a little bit of the IRIS whistle blower
up and that was from CBS. Actually, we've got a
lot more on that coming up in just a second,
and then a little bit of analysis from variety of
quarters on that.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
So, the gigantic history making story before us is that
the Justice Department seems to have interfered with a legitimate
tax investigation into the Biden family, and not once and
not in a small way, but in a systematic way
over a long period of time. And that's especially important
(00:48):
because among the other things we're going to get clues
to is the fact that there was a tremendous amount
of money flowing to the Biden family then through a
couple of dozen LLCs and family members, including some who
have never claimed to have any role in UH energy
(01:11):
or law firms or anything like that, in a way
that looks remarkably like a money laundering and b tax evasion.
Gary Shapley was a senior investigator for the I R
S for a number of years. He was an investigator
before that for quite some time, very well thought of
and had given serious responsibilities, like doing the tax investigation
(01:32):
into the son of a president. And at one point
he became so disgusted and so convinced that the investigation
was getting interfered with, he became a whistleblower. He saw
whistleblower status and came forward. That's a background.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I thought, I don't know if these clips include that,
but him talking about, you know, they reached my red line,
and then another whistleblower had a different red line, but
then they reached that guy's red line on this is
too much indeed, Yeah, let's art with thirty two. This
is Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States
of America.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Mister Weiss had in fact more authority than a special
council would have had, as complete as he had, and
has complete authority, as I said, to bring a case
anywhere he wants in his discretion.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Weiss is the federal prosecutor in Maryland under whom the
tax investigation was working. They were going to have him
file the charges, so he has complete authority. According to
Merrick Garland. Hit us with thirty.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
This is a moment in which the Delaware US Attorney,
David Weiss, according to you, had made this disclosure on
October seventh, twenty twenty two, meeting with top irs and
FBI officials, saying.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What So I was there and I witnessed this personally,
and he started with he's not the deciding person whether
or not chargers are filed or not.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Not the deciding person on whether charges are filed with
Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's correct, who was So.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Ultimately this, if you follow the path of where the
venue leads you, that went to the DCUs Attorney's office
in March of twenty twenty two, and they presented this
case to them.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So roll on, Michael, next one.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
That's earth shattering news. So Biden appointed DCUs attorney Matthew
Graves would not allow him to charge in his district.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So I didn't learn that fact until October seventh of
twenty twenty two. So looking back to March of twenty
twenty two, and that's when David Weiss in October seventh,
twenty twenty two, said that the DCUs Attorney's office said,
will not allow us to charge there, and then he
added that he would request special count he requests a
special council authority and was denied in that meeting. I
(03:45):
even had him repeat that because I knew how important
that fact was and I wanted to make sure I
understood it.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So, for technical reasons that aren't worth getting into, Weiss
in Delaware needed to charge file the charges in the
Washington d C Office, and DC said no, we're not
going to let you. And Weiss then appealed to the
DOJ for special council status so he could go above
his head and do the prosecutions he thought were appropriate,
(04:14):
and they said, no, you're not getting that. Just be quiet.
How about the investigation itself? Was that allowed to go
forward in normal fashion? Clip thirty three.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
When we received the attorney client filter reviewed copy of
information from the search warrant to Apple, which produced that document,
we went back to the prosecutors and we requested to
take various investigative steps, and they were not supported. And
when they weren't supported, they said, well, maybe he wasn't
(04:46):
co located with him, so well, we can take investigative
steps to talk about tripity if that happened. And they
didn't support anything in relation to that effort. And it's
consistent with their ongoing theme of not allowing us to
pursue or ask questions about President Biden, the big.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Guy that needed more context than you had. I apologize
for that. He makes the point early in the interview
something I said the other day, but he filled it
in because he does it for a living. An IRS
investigation is an investigation of where the money came from,
where it flowed, and where it went if you're investigating
(05:27):
tax evasion, tax fraud, that sort of thing. And they
were continually told, no, you're not going to ask about
that money that flowed in that direction. Don't even ask
the questions. And they were flabbergasted because this guy does
this for a living.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And this is from the party and the administration that's
constantly howling about the rich paying their fair share. Too
many fat cats getting away with not paying their taxes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's hilarious. It is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
So in this clip, Shapley's talking about a search warrant.
They became aware that Hunter's financial records were in a
storage unit and they were sure there was evidence there
and they wanted to go search it. And here's what
happened in thirty.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Four, transitioning into another search warrant was on a storage
unit in northern Virginia, and during the day of action
on December eighth of twenty twenty, we got updated information
that said that records were in that location that were
you know, that would be evidence in this particular investigation,
(06:26):
and the prosecutors initially were supportive of it, and Affidavi
was drafted the night of December eight, twenty twenty to
go forward for approval. Eventually the prosecutors decided they didn't
support it. So I called US Attorney David Weiss with
my senior executive on the phone, and we said we
(06:47):
needed to execute this search warrant. He responded that the
prosecutors didn't want to, and I asked if in thirty days,
if that storage unit wasn't accessed, and that was the
deadline for the document request that was served on that day,
then we cute the search warrant and he agreed to that,
and no sooner I had gotten off the phone with
David Wise had we learned that the prosecutors were informing
(07:10):
defense counsel of that storage unit and the evidence that
existed there, So it completely ruined our chance to access
those unfettered.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So they let Hunter, know they're coming for your papers.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You better move them.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yes, yeah, clean out that storage unit. Wow, that is
unfreaking believable. And this guy is testifying to all this
stuff under oath in front of Congress. He's not just
doing interviews with Brett Baer moving along well only he
makes clear it's frustrating, but it's kind of a repeat
(07:43):
that we'll he said, we'll never know what was inside
that storage unit, and we were sure there was evidence there.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
God, Hunter, Biden's lifestyle sounds tiring. Mean you got you're
getting updated on you get better move those papers out
of that building because the IRS is on to you.
Oh you're that stripper and Oklahoma's on the phone, say
she's pregnant. Your drug dealer's calling. Hey, the police found
a gun, say it's registered to you. I mean, just
(08:12):
all that stuff would be very, very tiring. Yeah, the
Ukrainians called and they're pissed.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Wow. One more on tipping off of the Biden family
by the Justice Department coming up after a quick word
from our friends at my pillow dot com. They're running
this crazy massive clothes out sale on They're all season slippers, Jack,
I know you're a stickler for many layers on your slippers.
My slippers have an exclusive four layer design you won't
(08:40):
find in any other slipper. Super comfortable, very durable.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I like seven layer burritos and four layer slippers. That's
just the way I roll. Right now, if you use
a promo code Getty, you can get these all season
slippers for twenty five bucks. Their regularly about one hundred
and fifty, so that's over one hundred and twenty dollars
in savings. Now you're limited to ten pairs of checkout.
They will sell out, so go get your ten bear.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, I remember I first slipped them on. Thought well,
these are like shoe quality slippers. Go to my pillow
dot com, click on the radio listeners Square. That's right,
Radio listener Square to grab a pair of all season
slippers for twenty five dollars, the regularly almost one hundred
and fifty. Limited again, as Jack said, to ten pairs
of check out. Promo code Getty g E T T Y.
So you go to MyPillow dot com, use the Radio
(09:24):
listeners Square and enter the promo code getty.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So that's funny. You know, I was stumbling fumbling, bumbling.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I realized I developed the habit as a little kid
of like getting real close to what I'm reading, And
now my.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Eyes don't work like that. But I'm still holding stuff
too close to read. I'm old, I need to hold
it away. That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, I know, it's just a habit, of physical habit
of leaning into what I'm reading.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But most people just start holding stuff further and further
away by, you know, naturally, because it helps you focus.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But you well, of course, yeah, you go ahead and
keep her up close. It's inexplicable. I don't know. I
don't know what's wrong with me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So they did research. Now this is prior to yesterday's interview,
I'm sure, but fewer than fifty percent of CNN and
MSNBC viewers are aware of key issues around this whole
Hunter Biden thing, less than half their audience, So.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
That makes it hard to get the scandal going.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, it'll take a while, but this one's so big
and unavoidable, all right. On the theme of tipping off
the target of an investigation, thirty six Michael.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
That happened in interviews as well as far as sharing
information before they happened.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So Decemmuary twenty twenty, we finally were going over in
this investigation after several delays, which of course we were
waiting until after the election to execute this at the
direction of the prosecutors and US Attorney Wiss in this case.
So we eventually did a day of action where we
were approaching the subject and several other witnesses. We had
(10:55):
a plan of how we're going to approach Hunter Biden
that morning, and ultimately we found out that the night
before I was told the FBI headquarters contacted Secret Service
and the Transition team and told them of the pending
action the next day. So ultimately, I don't know how
it affected the witnesses, but there was clear opportunity for
(11:17):
them to be tipped off before we even approach them.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And it's something i'd say, I'd say, it's dirty stuff.
We have a minute, Yeah, we have another minute. This
stuff I want to get to this segment. Go ahead
with thirty seven. It's pretty self explanatory, all.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Right, I'm just going to read from this. I'm sitting
here with my father and we would like to understand
why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director,
I would like to resolve this now before it gets
out of hand, and now means tonight, and z if
I get a caller text from anyone involved in this
other than you, Zang or the chairman, I will make
certain that between the man sitting next to me and
(11:56):
every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold
a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction.
I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.
Seems kind of cut and dry.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yes, And the importance of that WhatsApp message is that
as an IRS criminal investigator, we need to understand all
the financial flows of money. We're working in investigation on
Hunter Biden and we're trying to assess a true and
accurate tax assessment for him. So if there is money
that's going elsewhere, whether it's President Biden or elsewhere, we
(12:27):
need to follow the investigative steps to ensure that happens.
And they were just not allowed in this particular investigation.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
And there's one more bit of detail in the next
clip Michael Lin will discuss.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
And as far as following the money, did you get
that far down the investigative.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Track concerning Hunter Biden? I feel like we have a
very good grasp on the income flows.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yes, and is it millions?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was around eight point three
million from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Wow, he is a successful businessman.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Here's the significance of this, because I think people have
been looking at that whole threatening my dad's sitting next
to me message on its own and assessing it significant.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
On its own.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
You have the target of a criminal tax investigation saying
in writing, my dad is my partner. He wants the
money and so do I. You need to send it
to us. And when the irs goes to say to determine, okay,
is this true? Is that the way the money was
flowing as he claimed in writing? They're told by the
(13:39):
Justice Department you don't even ask that question.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's the significance of it.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Not whether that snapchat or whatever WhatsApp proves anything on
its own, but it's absolutely a legitimate investigative clue.
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