July 19, 2023 • 11 mins
This was an intense segment. As you already know by now, this country is going insane with gender identity and teaching our kids all about it. A young woman named Prisha Mosley testified in Texas about her life through transition, her parents being blackmailed, the health complications she's suffered after testosterone and having her breasts removed and how she was convinced she was trans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You cannot affirm someone in their own delusion. You cannot
affirm someone in their own self hatred.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Actually, that's cruel.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You have to tell the truth. You have to be
kind about it, of course, you have to be compassionate.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
But you cannot yield.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
The truth because someone with different politics or someone with
a different sense of reality it tells you to do so.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's Christopher Rufo who's doing brilliant work in battling against
the abuse and mutilation of children who momentarily have confusion
about their sex, often because confusion about their sex has
been pushed on them by progressive folks. All in a
lead up to some really courageous testimony before the Texas Assembly.
(00:43):
I guess they're a governmental body. There, anything to add
Jack before we dive in.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Uh No, I am interested in hearing where this is going.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, you're going to hear the voice of Prisha Mosley,
who is now twenty five, who is suing the medical
team that put us on testosterone at age seventeen, surgically
removed her breasts fast tractor in a transgender care for
profit when what she really needed was therapy. And the
(01:12):
main reason to go ahead and play the audio from
this poor young woman is she gives a first person
account of what it's like if you're confused and you say,
if you dare breathe to the wrong person, I don't know.
Maybe it's a gender thing with me. What happens, as
I've said, you get whisked onto this activist conveyor belt.
(01:33):
Here's Priscia Moseley in front of the Texas House in
ninety four, Michael, and we'll go from there.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
My name is Priscia Mosley. By the time I was
twelve years old, I was battling with anorexia, depression OCD,
and anxiety, which would evolve into an eventual borderline personality
disorder diagnosis, a very severe condition. At fifteen, the trans
community found me suicidal and unstable and convinced me that
all of my suffers was caused by being born in
(02:01):
the wrong body. I believed that something was deeply wrong
with me, and my doctors agreed. They assisted me in
mutilating myself, even eventually removing body parts.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, there was a lot there, Yeah, indeed, do you
want to talk about that?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, so this person was had a lot of different problems.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Issues diagnosed emotional and mental ill issues, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So that you'd think that would be a giant red
flag alone that if you have a bunch of other things,
you know, let's be darn sure what we're doing here
before we start cutting India.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, right, so you're very troubled and unhappy and you
say I think it's this, and the entire medical community.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Says she has to be right. She has to be right,
just on this topic. Anybody who's dealing with any family
member or themselves who with mental issues, you get lots
of opinions. I mean, I could use all kinds of
exams from my own personal life with various people, though,
but you got one doctor says it's this, another person
(03:05):
with a PhD in decades of experience who says it's that,
And what are you supposed to do with that information?
Right when they disagree.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
We got this note from Bob, longtime listener and correspondent,
just wondering what it says about as a society when
we treat normal teenagers as kids until they're eighteen, but
if one is so fed up and troubled enough at fourteen,
we let them cut off their own junk, or he says,
charge them as adults in court which is another topic,
(03:35):
but an interesting one. That's right. So if you are
a happy, well adjusted teen, you can't make any real
decisions until you're eighteen. But if you're seriously messed up,
we'll let you authorize the mutilation of your own body.
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's a good point. A sixteen year old, a normal
sixteen year old with no other problems, can't possibly be
expected to drive a car. Way too difficult to make
those decisions.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, but a severely confused fifteen year old can be
allowed to authorize surgeries. Right. Ninety five Mike wore with
Preciam Moseley.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
By the time I was seventeen years old, testosterone was
being injected into my anorexic body. This was after a
single appointment with a WPATH certified therapist who asked me
a few questions and told me that I was a boy.
These vague questions included things like, do you dislike your period?
Do you get along better with boys?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Meeting?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Where are the parents in this story?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't know. One meeting at the close of which
she said, yep, you're a boy. Next clip.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
One year after the testosterone injections began, and my healthy
breasts were removed at the same time that I was
given top surgery. I was denied liposuction. My doctors knew
that I was too unwell to consent to radical surgery,
but they cut my breasts off anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
IPOs suchons, radical surgery, removing breasts, and testosterone treatments not
that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Where were the parents?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
A next clip My testosterone came from a pediatrician where
I was also seeing a nutritionist for my severe eating
disorder and receiving stitches for cutting. There were no safeguards
in place, no one to question me and ask why
I wanted to look different so badly, so quickly. Instead,
I was told that anyone who did not affirm me
wanted me dead, and my belief that I was born
(05:30):
in the wrong body was affirmed. My parents were blackmailed
into the idea that I would kill myself if they
did not go along with hormones and the surgery.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh, what a horrible situation to be And you have
medical professionals telling you as a parent, look, if you
don't do this, it's likely she's going to kill herself.
What a horrible position.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
To be in when that is absolutely also not borne
out by the evidence, and we've got more on that
to come. She gets back to that theme in a minute,
but next clip.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
First, Michael, testosterone had severe side effects of which are
coming up every day and which I was not warned about.
This includes chronic pain in the form of aching joints
and burning in my neck, back and shoulders. My shoulders
broadened beyond what my frame was meant to carry, and
my hips are too small to hold me up without
causing this pain. I suffered with ovarian cysts for years.
(06:19):
When my cyst burst, I would go to the hospital
and they would tell me it was normal, give me morphine,
and send me home. Now I do not know if
I'm fertile. I do know that I will never be
able to breastfeed. However, even with a breast free construction,
this will not be possible. I will go my whole
life without experiencing feeding a baby.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And finally, the last one ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I trusted my doctors when they said it was transition
or suicide. I thought that this was life saving medicine.
But I was sold snake oil and the price was
my healthy body, my voice, and my joy.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I was at a where was I restaurant in the airport.
Couple of goth chicks came in and they look to
be like late teenagers. I don't know if they were
adults or not, but they were super goth, you know,
the blackfishnet tights and all black clothes and the black
lipstick and the white face and the jet black hair
(07:17):
and the whole thing like that, And I ye, they
really stuck out in the crowd, but I think everybody
there had the same feeling. It's interesting they're going through
that phase. I mean, nobody thinks they're going to be
dressed like that in ten years. We all know they aren't.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No one generally speaking. It'll all be harmless and forget.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Absolutely, and nobody's really worried about it. But they're going
through a phase where they think it's really really important
to look that different from everybody else for whatever reason.
And everybody knows that it's going to last one summer
a couple and then they'll go back to something more mainstream.
Why would you treat an the whole gender thing differently
(08:00):
than that for a team, Well, I wouldn't in spite
of the pressure. And Chris Rufo actually a great setup
for the next clip. Clip ninety one.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Please, Michael, the whole ideology is based on a false
notion that you can change your sex. It denies the
basic reality of the universe, of the cosmos of creation.
And they're doing that because they believe that if they
can soften a child's consciousness, if they can destabilize the
child's identity, they can control that child and use that
(08:31):
child as a political tool. This is not about sexuality,
first and foremost. This is about using sexuality in order
to achieve political.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Objectives, which I understand is a little confusing. We've tried
to deal with that on the show Neo Marxism and
how it works, and we'll do it again, but I
wanted to play one final clip from RUFO Go ahead
ninety three.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This is really dangerous, and I always tell people, if
they can get you to say the pronouns, they can
get you to say anything. So don't ever back down
from the truth. You don't have to be mean about it,
of course, but certainly don't fall victim to the manipulative
nature of this ideology.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Which is what I've always said about the whole If
you look at a man and say, yes, that's a woman,
because you're told to say that it's not about the
man or the woman. It's about your submission. That's what
they're looking for, for you to submit to them, providing
you with reality. You are no longer in charge of
(09:33):
your reality. The party will tell you what your reality is,
or the progressives or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well that's a rough story from that girl.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Here's a related story. Twenty one leading experts on pediatric
gender medicine from eight countries have written a letter to
the editor of the Wall Street Journal Opinion section expressing
disagreement with the Endocrine Society and it's new present over
the treatment of youth gender dysphoria. Again, this is a
couple dozen from eight different countries. Although they've commented on
(10:04):
the problems of the American affirming model in the past,
this is the first time international experts and publicly weighed
in on the American debate over gender affirming care. And
they point out that there is no data, none, suggesting
that causing these changes I call them mutilations to young
bodies leads to better mental health or happiness, or decreases suicide.
(10:28):
Anybody who claims such studies exist have cherry picked, fake
or garbage studies because unlike the US medical associations that
talk about this stuff. They have meta studied all these
studies and praised them for their strength and scientific validity
as well, and they've found that a lot of them
(10:49):
that are that are cited the most frequently are utterly,
you know, vacant of scientific status. Purpose they previously called
the affirm or suicide narrative purposeful disinformation and its promotion,
given the contagious nature of suicide, irresponsible. That's from a
Finnish expert on this stuff. And it goes on and on.
(11:12):
We'll talk more about it another time. But it has
been crazy to watch the culture of the United States,
at least parts of it, small ish parts of it,
small but powerful parts of it, embrace something so insane,
so completely. How long will the psychosis last and how
(11:34):
many people will be hurt? That's the only question before
we all wake up. We all wake up because reality
bats last, But how long will it take
You cannot affirm someone in their own delusion. You cannot
affirm someone in their own self hatred.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Actually, that's cruel.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You have to tell the truth. You have to be
kind about it, of course, you have to be compassionate.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
But you cannot yield.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
The truth because someone with different politics or someone with
a different sense of reality it tells you to do so.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's Christopher Rufo who's doing brilliant work in battling against
the abuse and mutilation of children who momentarily have confusion
about their sex, often because confusion about their sex has
been pushed on them by progressive folks. All in a
lead up to some really courageous testimony before the Texas Assembly.
(00:43):
I guess they're a governmental body. There, anything to add
Jack before we dive in.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Uh No, I am interested in hearing where this is going.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, you're going to hear the voice of Prisha Mosley,
who is now twenty five, who is suing the medical
team that put us on testosterone at age seventeen, surgically
removed her breasts fast tractor in a transgender care for
profit when what she really needed was therapy. And the
(01:12):
main reason to go ahead and play the audio from
this poor young woman is she gives a first person
account of what it's like if you're confused and you say,
if you dare breathe to the wrong person, I don't know.
Maybe it's a gender thing with me. What happens, as
I've said, you get whisked onto this activist conveyor belt.
(01:33):
Here's Priscia Moseley in front of the Texas House in
ninety four, Michael, and we'll go from there.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
My name is Priscia Mosley. By the time I was
twelve years old, I was battling with anorexia, depression OCD,
and anxiety, which would evolve into an eventual borderline personality
disorder diagnosis, a very severe condition. At fifteen, the trans
community found me suicidal and unstable and convinced me that
all of my suffers was caused by being born in
(02:01):
the wrong body. I believed that something was deeply wrong
with me, and my doctors agreed. They assisted me in
mutilating myself, even eventually removing body parts.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, there was a lot there, Yeah, indeed, do you
want to talk about that?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, so this person was had a lot of different problems.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Issues diagnosed emotional and mental ill issues, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So that you'd think that would be a giant red
flag alone that if you have a bunch of other things,
you know, let's be darn sure what we're doing here
before we start cutting India.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, right, so you're very troubled and unhappy and you
say I think it's this, and the entire medical community.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Says she has to be right. She has to be right,
just on this topic. Anybody who's dealing with any family
member or themselves who with mental issues, you get lots
of opinions. I mean, I could use all kinds of
exams from my own personal life with various people, though,
but you got one doctor says it's this, another person
(03:05):
with a PhD in decades of experience who says it's that,
And what are you supposed to do with that information?
Right when they disagree.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
We got this note from Bob, longtime listener and correspondent,
just wondering what it says about as a society when
we treat normal teenagers as kids until they're eighteen, but
if one is so fed up and troubled enough at fourteen,
we let them cut off their own junk, or he says,
charge them as adults in court which is another topic,
(03:35):
but an interesting one. That's right. So if you are
a happy, well adjusted teen, you can't make any real
decisions until you're eighteen. But if you're seriously messed up,
we'll let you authorize the mutilation of your own body.
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's a good point. A sixteen year old, a normal
sixteen year old with no other problems, can't possibly be
expected to drive a car. Way too difficult to make
those decisions.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, but a severely confused fifteen year old can be
allowed to authorize surgeries. Right. Ninety five Mike wore with
Preciam Moseley.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
By the time I was seventeen years old, testosterone was
being injected into my anorexic body. This was after a
single appointment with a WPATH certified therapist who asked me
a few questions and told me that I was a boy.
These vague questions included things like, do you dislike your period?
Do you get along better with boys?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Meeting?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Where are the parents in this story?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't know. One meeting at the close of which
she said, yep, you're a boy. Next clip.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
One year after the testosterone injections began, and my healthy
breasts were removed at the same time that I was
given top surgery. I was denied liposuction. My doctors knew
that I was too unwell to consent to radical surgery,
but they cut my breasts off anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
IPOs suchons, radical surgery, removing breasts, and testosterone treatments not
that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Where were the parents?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
A next clip My testosterone came from a pediatrician where
I was also seeing a nutritionist for my severe eating
disorder and receiving stitches for cutting. There were no safeguards
in place, no one to question me and ask why
I wanted to look different so badly, so quickly. Instead,
I was told that anyone who did not affirm me
wanted me dead, and my belief that I was born
(05:30):
in the wrong body was affirmed. My parents were blackmailed
into the idea that I would kill myself if they
did not go along with hormones and the surgery.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh, what a horrible situation to be And you have
medical professionals telling you as a parent, look, if you
don't do this, it's likely she's going to kill herself.
What a horrible position.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
To be in when that is absolutely also not borne
out by the evidence, and we've got more on that
to come. She gets back to that theme in a minute,
but next clip.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
First, Michael, testosterone had severe side effects of which are
coming up every day and which I was not warned about.
This includes chronic pain in the form of aching joints
and burning in my neck, back and shoulders. My shoulders
broadened beyond what my frame was meant to carry, and
my hips are too small to hold me up without
causing this pain. I suffered with ovarian cysts for years.
(06:19):
When my cyst burst, I would go to the hospital
and they would tell me it was normal, give me morphine,
and send me home. Now I do not know if
I'm fertile. I do know that I will never be
able to breastfeed. However, even with a breast free construction,
this will not be possible. I will go my whole
life without experiencing feeding a baby.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And finally, the last one ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I trusted my doctors when they said it was transition
or suicide. I thought that this was life saving medicine.
But I was sold snake oil and the price was
my healthy body, my voice, and my joy.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I was at a where was I restaurant in the airport.
Couple of goth chicks came in and they look to
be like late teenagers. I don't know if they were
adults or not, but they were super goth, you know,
the blackfishnet tights and all black clothes and the black
lipstick and the white face and the jet black hair
(07:17):
and the whole thing like that, And I ye, they
really stuck out in the crowd, but I think everybody
there had the same feeling. It's interesting they're going through
that phase. I mean, nobody thinks they're going to be
dressed like that in ten years. We all know they aren't.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No one generally speaking. It'll all be harmless and forget.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Absolutely, and nobody's really worried about it. But they're going
through a phase where they think it's really really important
to look that different from everybody else for whatever reason.
And everybody knows that it's going to last one summer
a couple and then they'll go back to something more mainstream.
Why would you treat an the whole gender thing differently
(08:00):
than that for a team, Well, I wouldn't in spite
of the pressure. And Chris Rufo actually a great setup
for the next clip. Clip ninety one.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Please, Michael, the whole ideology is based on a false
notion that you can change your sex. It denies the
basic reality of the universe, of the cosmos of creation.
And they're doing that because they believe that if they
can soften a child's consciousness, if they can destabilize the
child's identity, they can control that child and use that
(08:31):
child as a political tool. This is not about sexuality,
first and foremost. This is about using sexuality in order
to achieve political.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Objectives, which I understand is a little confusing. We've tried
to deal with that on the show Neo Marxism and
how it works, and we'll do it again, but I
wanted to play one final clip from RUFO Go ahead
ninety three.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This is really dangerous, and I always tell people, if
they can get you to say the pronouns, they can
get you to say anything. So don't ever back down
from the truth. You don't have to be mean about it,
of course, but certainly don't fall victim to the manipulative
nature of this ideology.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Which is what I've always said about the whole If
you look at a man and say, yes, that's a woman,
because you're told to say that it's not about the
man or the woman. It's about your submission. That's what
they're looking for, for you to submit to them, providing
you with reality. You are no longer in charge of
(09:33):
your reality. The party will tell you what your reality is,
or the progressives or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well that's a rough story from that girl.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Here's a related story. Twenty one leading experts on pediatric
gender medicine from eight countries have written a letter to
the editor of the Wall Street Journal Opinion section expressing
disagreement with the Endocrine Society and it's new present over
the treatment of youth gender dysphoria. Again, this is a
couple dozen from eight different countries. Although they've commented on
(10:04):
the problems of the American affirming model in the past,
this is the first time international experts and publicly weighed
in on the American debate over gender affirming care. And
they point out that there is no data, none, suggesting
that causing these changes I call them mutilations to young
bodies leads to better mental health or happiness, or decreases suicide.
(10:28):
Anybody who claims such studies exist have cherry picked, fake
or garbage studies because unlike the US medical associations that
talk about this stuff. They have meta studied all these
studies and praised them for their strength and scientific validity
as well, and they've found that a lot of them
(10:49):
that are that are cited the most frequently are utterly,
you know, vacant of scientific status. Purpose they previously called
the affirm or suicide narrative purposeful disinformation and its promotion,
given the contagious nature of suicide, irresponsible. That's from a
Finnish expert on this stuff. And it goes on and on.
(11:12):
We'll talk more about it another time. But it has
been crazy to watch the culture of the United States,
at least parts of it, small ish parts of it,
small but powerful parts of it, embrace something so insane,
so completely. How long will the psychosis last and how
(11:34):
many people will be hurt? That's the only question before
we all wake up. We all wake up because reality
bats last, But how long will it take
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