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May 8, 2024 12 mins

In case you missed it, during the Trump "hush money" trial (if we can even call it that anymore) Stormy Daniels took the stand and went in depth about her sexual encounter with Trump.  She also tried to make it seem like she didn't know what she was doing... Listen to the whole Armstrong & Getty Select Cut for all the details! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I still say the media is completely wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I don't know if they know it or not, but
the analysis of this had to be a very uncomfortable
day for Donald Trump to have the whole world here.
I guarantee you he's thrilled to have people know that
he slept with the twenty six year old body.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
He's not embarrassed. He loves having his friends know this.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
And as a defendant sitting there watching the prosecution's case
just go down cul de Sac after cul de Sac. Yeah,
and then Okay, so morenalyis is. This is from Melissa
Farroh Griffin, who's a Trump fan. And we're gonna get
some Trump critics coming up, and you can decide who
you find more persuasive.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
But forty Michael, and I want to say this.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'm not an attorney. I know Republican voters, I know
the Republican public. I'm a bit stunned that the prosecution
leans so heavily into the salacious details about the sexual
encounter rather than talking about who Stormy Daniels is. I
interviewed her recently. She's a mother, she's been nearly bankrupted
because of her former attorney now being Trump's legal bills.

She's somebody who could be a very sympathetic figure who
also could have credibility, and I think to really lean
into that side of it, I don't know that that's
going to play well with a Jerry. This was something
that you know, took place in two thousand and six.
She was twenty seven years old, he was sixty. That
data point matters.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's actually it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's actually a really good point if she just stayed
away from the what sexual position they were in, which
she actually mentioned, and that sort of stuff and just
gone with Look, I mean, that was a part of
my life, but I'm a mom now and I have
no money because I you know, I had an affair
with a married man and that has ruined me. That

that's a much better angle than the what he was
wearing and how I flirted with him and what sexual
position wear in.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
You missed your calling, because while that made me sick,
that characterization, I mean, she sought the profit over over again.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh, that would have been way better.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
It still would have been wildly irrelevant, but it would
have been more sympathetic. Here is Lisa Rubin on MSNBC
trying to convince us that anythings.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Lisia, I love you, Alsia did.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
A different woman, Michael, different woman two.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
At a technical level, I understand what they're saying, But
on another level, it has everything to do with what's
being charged here.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So what do they have to do?

Speaker 5 (02:29):
They have to work backwards to convince the jury donald
Trump had every motive and incentive not only to do
the deal, but to cover it up. How do you
convince the jury that he had every mode of an incentive?
You here forgive the pun straight from the horse's mouth.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
What that interactions like? And for her.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
This was a traumatic incident. It recasts Donald Trump from
sort of the womanizer that we understood this episode to
be about, to the predator that the Access Hollywood tape
made him out to be. Completely reinforces a frame of
him that was existing in the political dialogue at the
time and makes all the more credible why Donald Trump

and Michael Cohen and all of their underlings would work
so hard to conceal the true nature of the payment,
disguise it instead as legal services and invoices pursuant to
a retainer agreement, something that Deborah pterosophag.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
So Katie's sporting hair, what look she went to the
hotel room. It stops there. She wasn't hog tied and
carried there. She went to the hotel room and knew exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
What was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I've seen Hogtide in Alabama, Hogtied in high school.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think was the movie she was in. So she
has been hog Tide, but not now for instance, not necessarily.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Not only that, Katie, but as we discussed earlier, she
was in Tahoe for the celebrity golf tournament to hook
up with rich celebrities and get paid for it.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
What was she there to ski?

Speaker 2 (04:00):

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Pushy there because she's such a big fan of the
game of golf.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
She's a hiker, Yeah, big hiker.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Great Scott, Lisa Rubin, What a great example of a
professional liar.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
This really goes to the heart of the case. Why
they'd be motivated. It's been stipulated. As they say in
the world of.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Law, everybody agrees Trump paid her off. Whether they got
it on or not is entirely irrelevant. It's a it's
a case about keeping records over where that money went
and why that her whether what position are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
But even back to the soap opera part of it,
the sex part of it, the fact that she specifically
said a number of times, I wasn't drugged, I wasn't forced.
I willingly did this okay, like Katie said, Okay, so
you went up to the room, he's in his pajamas.
You want to He wouldn't force you. He made it
clear he wanted to have sex, and you want ahead

and did Okay, where's the story on me?

Speaker 6 (05:02):
To the part of the case from the horse's mouth,
and this whole other.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Thing about her being a mother and painting herself. The
prosecutor didn't ask her what position they had sex, and
she offered that information up.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
That would have been a weird question.

Speaker 7 (05:16):
Willingly dropping all of these bizarre like details on us
without being asked.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
If I may approach to witness whereas one leg behind
your head or ball?

Speaker 3 (05:27):
All right, I must jump in here and call for
Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz, Clip forty three.

Speaker 8 (05:34):
Well, first of all, it was clear reversible era today
committed by the judge and by the prosecution under the
reasoning of the recently reversed Harvey Weinstein case.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So much information.

Speaker 8 (05:45):
Came out that was utterly irrelevant let's start with whether
they had sex at all, utterly irrelevant. The only issue
is whether she threatened to expose him, and whether she
extorted him, and whether he then paid money to avoid
the embarrassment to his family, to his business, to his children, and,
according to the prosecution, to help himself get re elected.

The issue of what actually happened is utterly irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
And then we get to.

Speaker 8 (06:12):
The details, the silk pajamas, the kind of lotion he
was wearing.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I can't imagine.

Speaker 8 (06:19):
How the Court of Appeals in New York that reversed
the Harvey Weinstein conviction, which was a harder case to reverse,
wouldn't reverse this conviction if it got up there. I
would certainly recommend to the prosecutors in this case that
they study the Weinstein case very carefully, because it gives
a road map to what you can't do, and this

prosecutor is just following the roadmap of what you can't do.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
So that was on Fox News. Obviously commentary fairly sympathetic
to the Trump team. As Jack mentioned earlier, Jake Tapper
on the lead on CNN has been doing a pretty
even handed job in the trial.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Getting to it.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Dershwitz just referenced to sexual positions, all that sort of stuff.
The judge actually said there were some things that probably
would have been better left unsaid. The fact that the
judge said that, yes, and the defense said, yeah, so
many things, so often, your honor, we need a mistrial.
And he said, I don't think we're at the point
where a mistrial is justified. Andy said, there are things

that probably shouldn't have been said. Uh oh, oh, your
dishonor before we get to the home run ball that
is the next clip. Now, Katie, I know we I
think we've inferred and we've inferred your point of view
over the last twenty four hours on this. But do
you think most how do you think most women this

strikes them?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Do most women feel like Stormy's a victim of something?
Do you think or she knew what she was doing?
I sure don't. I don't think they think she's a victim.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
I mean, this is a common sense situation where she
knew what was going to happen, and it's I mean, well,
she's to hernography star yeah, and a stripper and wanted
to be on the Apprentice and gets invited to the
hotel room in.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Goes this is not a victim situation.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, the testimony where she says he held the being
on the Apprentice out there as bait.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
There was a power imbalance. Okay, that's on you.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
We got a text about that that I thought was funny.
Can the girl who the rock star left in her
hometown and didn't take her on a whirlwind romance tour
after a night of love and now sue the rock star?

Speaker 1 (08:29):

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I mean this sort of thing happens where you know,
I thought I was gonna be the wife of bon Jovie.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Turns out he just wanted to sleep with me. Shocking.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
One of my favorite Rolling Stones albums, Tattoo You from
way back in the day. One of the lines on
one of my favorite songs, Every girl gets the same,
come on, I'm gonna make you a star please.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Anyway, Jake Tamper doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
This tape is descriptive and it includes the unfortunate phrase
of the day forty eight Michael. At times, Stormy Daniels
appeared really quite tense when facing questions from Trump's defense team.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
Yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. I
mean they got her to admit that, yes, she hates
the defendant. She has said that she would quote dance
if you went to jail.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
She always him hundreds.

Speaker 9 (09:18):
Of thousands of dollars as a result of other litigation,
and they pulled up a tweet where she said she
doesn't want to pay that quote orange turd a single dime.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
There it was the OT. Oh may, oh, May.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Do you think that using ot Katie makes her more
sympathetic to women?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Or she slept with it? A sure, good one, Good boy,
you slept with the OT. I prefer fornicated, but to
teach their own.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, you're right because there was no probably little sleeping
at all.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, I do not feel rested. Yeah, this is not
nineteen sixty two. Rob Petrie and Laura are not sleeping
in separate twin beds in the world anymore.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
All Right, she banged the OT. There you go. Wow,
he's a OT, but he might get me on TV.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
So let's do this. Oh, come on, let's be adults here.
Gotten she's twenty six and he's sixty. Oh I know,
I mean, yeah, he's a fat old man. You're twenty
six years old. You had sex with him.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You probably practically literally held your nose and had sex
with him because you thought you were going to become
famous for it, and we're supposed to feel sympathetic to
this for some reason. Keeping in mind, as Joe has
pointed out, and lots of lawyers have, this has got
nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Anyway, She goes to.

Speaker 7 (10:32):
His hotel room and goes, I think I misread the situation.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, yell, I can sense.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I have a psychic connection with the audience, and I
sense that you're annoyed, you're disgusted, you're just demoralized by
this whole ugly episode.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
But some of you are holding out.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Some of you are saying, I'm not completely demoralized and
disgusted yet.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh yeah, take this in friend.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
I don't want to sound like I'm doing wishful thinking.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yes, but which prison would be best? What about?

Speaker 6 (11:08):

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, I'll close tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's the view, joking about which prison Trump is going
to end up in for his misdemeanor reporting campaign legal
campaign misdemeanor. Well, he'd charges he's not going to end
up in jail for that, but he certainly could end
up in jail for contempt at court, as the judge
threatened the other day, and New York City Mayor Eric

Adams said yesterday that Rikers is ready for Trump if
they need to do that.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh really yeah yeah wow, so that could happen.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean that, and like we've been talking about, I
think Trump might be wanting that to have. I would
I would love to write for Trump the very brief
statement that gets him jailed. We don't really have time
to get into my rough draft here, but I would
love that. You made the point of the day. I
think Katie you you you laid down with the ot.

If I may use biblical action, yeah, so at her
own will, Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you can admit it
in your own free will so you could get on
The Apprentice. You laid with the Ot, happy with yourself,
turn armstrong and getty
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