January 20, 2023 • 14 mins
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I don't know a couple of years ago that he
had self driving cars. It not actually true, um uh
not yet anyway, certainly not for everybody. And the software
that you can use, which costs ten thousand dollars, just
became available to my car over the weekend and I
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work today and I'll tell you how that went. Well,
(01:16):
you're here, So that's encouraging. If you've ever ridden with
your high school sophomore daughter as she gets her drivers
from gives you some idea, you know, I was just
about to make reference to underage girls, and I thought
I would explain why I'm going with girls and that boys.
First of all, the statement we refer to California as
(01:39):
cal Unicornia fairly frequently, and in fact, I think, can
we still at the Armstrong Getti story? Can you still
get a cal Unicornia flag? Which I uh proudly fly
in my home office. But anyway, um oh, and there's
one in the studio too, but anyway. So the reason
we we call California cal Unicornia is that the politics
(01:59):
of the state have a real feel of an eight
year old girl. That it's it's all based on feelings
and what would be wonderful if it were true Unicorns
and fairies and tea parties and that sort of thing,
and bears very little resemblance to reality. Now, the reason
I use little girls and little boys, and I have
(02:21):
raised both is that little boys fantasies tend to have
to do more with like giant killer robots and that
sort of thing. And and so Kelly under Cornea definitely
has more of an eight year old girl feel than
an eight year old boy. But anyway, having said that,
you may recall us reporting uh, several weeks ago, I
guess that the California Reparations Task Force was back with
(02:43):
their recommendations, and they suggested that the roughly two and
a half million black or African American Californians ought to
get big giant checks, and they got the term reparation
means in general. Just think at this point, I think,
at this point, people, do you want to uh, you
like to furnish your definition or one black people got
(03:08):
ripped off by slavery, soyom a bunch of money. We
being now now define the terms uh we Irish immigrants
that hit our shores in nineteen thirty and we're poor
until the nineteen seventies, for instance, I don't know who's
we um and and and uh in what way are
you still suffering? And compensations gets very complicated? Oh it does, indeed,
(03:31):
which is not for a single second to deny the
injustices of not only slavery, but the reconstruction era of
the Jim Crow era, the post or the pre nineteen
sixty four Civil Rights Act century terrible terrible. Having said that,
the idea of taking somebody's money and giving it to
somebody else but not them, and it's incredibly complicated and
(03:56):
not doable. But anyway, uh So, the State task for
identified all sorts of different areas of discrimination decided that,
uh for a bunch of people, because of the sins
of the middle part of the twentie century, that black
people ought to get about a quarter million dollars per person.
Total compensation of five and sixty nine billion dollars in
(04:17):
a state that's a total budget is a tiny fraction
of that. So that was the state uh panel. Well,
now San Francisco, as most of you realize Californians are not,
is kind of a hyper concentrated California. E California. Like
(04:38):
all of those eight year old girl unicorn fantasies that
are like prevalent in California, exists in their most distilled,
purer form in San Francisco. It is dance Uranium dance
fantasy land. In terms of politics, So, the city's African
American Reparations ADVIRS Advisory Committee released a draft report recently
(05:03):
that recommended pay out hefty reparations to the city's long
time black residents. I would say they're hefty, including a
five million dollar payment per qualifying person and a supplemental
income to low income residents for the next two hundred
and fifty years. It's all slavery goes back to two
(05:27):
hundred and fifty years. You have to go to two
hundred fifty years, and the forward is that it Yeah,
I guess that's roughly what they said. Yeah, five million
dollars to each black resident for two hundred fifty years. Well, no,
five million dollars payment lump some payment per qualifying person
(05:48):
and then on top of that, supplemental income to low
income residents for the next two hundred fifty years because
I saw the committee also proposed wiping out all debts
of associated with educational, personal credit card and payday loans
for black households. Right, Yeah, so you're gonna wipe out
all the credit card debt for black households. Correct, because
(06:09):
it's whether it's ten dollars because those people are very
responsible or the utter maximum because those people are are
nut jobs and spend beyond their means. Right either way,
Um that the City's African American Reparations Advisory Committee, UH
that that the claimed quote. San Francisco's international reputation as
a shining progressive jam in the West is undermined by
(06:30):
its legacy of mistreatment, violence toward, and targeted racism against
Black Americans. While neither San Francisco nor California formally adopted
the institution of shadows slavery, the values of segregation, white supremacy,
and systemic repression and exclusion of black people were legally
codified and enforced. The group wrote, and there is some
truth to that, but here's here's proof that they're crazy people.
(06:56):
The committee proposed the city make a lump sum payment
of five million dollars to black residents whore at least
eighteen and I've identified as black or African American on
public documents for at least ten years, So you could
be as white as a Rema copier paper. But if
you identify as black, you're in the running. Residents must
also meet at least two of eight other requirements. Among
those requirements always they had all eight. But among those
(07:18):
requirements is that the resident quote is personally or the
direct descendant of someone incarcerated by the failed War on Drugs.
Wait a minute, so if your dad ever went to
jail for drugs. You qualify right, right, If your granddad
was the cocaine overlord of Pacific Heights in the seventies,
(07:43):
you would get five million dollars because so because in
their mind, the war on drugs was a bad idea,
somebody racist idea, somebody who was legitimately doing something illegal. Yes,
and got thrown in jail for it. Yes, you was
a descendant of them, deserve five million dollars. Yes. And
(08:03):
if you're a poor Hispanic person, white person, Asian person, etcetera,
whose forebears would never deal drugs because that's a illegal
and be it ruins people's lives, you will get jack
effing squatted. Moving along, let's say, oh so that's one
of the Uh, that's one of the requirements. The other
requirement is or is a descendant of someone enslaved through
(08:26):
US chattel slavery before nineteen, which is a little more
to the point. So, how many people think the whole
reparations thing makes sense? I mean, they're there. There are
lots of people that got wronged horribly. You can't get
more wrong really than being a slave, hardly. I can't
come up with anything. I mean, that's about as awful
as again. But well, and I was just reading an
(08:46):
article about black families who owned a really valuable real
estate on the California coast and has got more and
more valuable. They got railroaded out of it, often being
paid the minimum amount of money and then show of
off the land. Utterly abhorrent. It's horrible. And the Native Americans.
You can come up with all kinds of people that
have been railroaded throughout the throughout history. But how do
(09:09):
you make somebody who didn't do any of those things
pay for it? How do how does that work? Well? Right, Well,
you've hold the society responsible and then say any member
of this society is going to chip in. One one
answer to the reparations argument that I've heard for a
(09:30):
very long time and I find persuasive, maybe imperfect, but persuasive,
is that if you had a situation like we were describing,
you know, from the eighteenth nineties century, which was full
of horror and discrimination racism against black people, one thing
you might do is spend trillions of dollars trillions through
the decades to lift up black families and black children
(09:52):
through public aid programs and housing and schooling and scholarships
and all sorts of stuff that's been done for a
very a very long time, and a lot of that
just breeds more dependence. It's it's bread, the dissolution of
the black family. It's been utterly on protect productive. So
going further down that road, I mean, you want to
(10:16):
see misery and hopelessness, go to an Indian reservation. With
all due respect, the fact that one culture took over
a land mass from another, which is the story of
every land mass on Earth throughout history, over and over again.
The idea that well, to uh to take care of that,
being awfully nasty will just make you dependent on the
(10:39):
government for the rest of your lives. You might as
well condemn people, well you do. You have condemned them
to misery and suicide in violence. It's the worst thing
you can do to a human being. So do you
get ay? So if you're black and you qualify for
the five million dollars, do you do you do? You
still pay your taxes the same way, though, do you
(10:59):
get a break on your tag? So you're not sure
they drilled down that low that far? I don't know.
When you're living in fantasy land, Jack, you don't get
into the tax code usually, and of course anybody who's white,
who whose family came to this country, you know, after slavery. Um,
(11:21):
you're being punished for a society you were, you and
your family lineage wasn't part of right right or may
indeed have been victims of in your own way. Yeah,
it's complicated, Yeah, yeah it is. You know. Um, it's funny.
I was just reading about the Jewish people and anti
Semitism and how certain forms of it are on the rise.
People were talking about Kanye West and the stupid stuff
(11:43):
he's said recently. Did you know that Kanye West has
more Instagram followers than there are Jews on Earth? Uh,
that didn't surprise me. Yeah, I don't have the numbers
in front of me, but that was stated in fact
in a pretty reliable publication. But you know, I, for instance,
I was talking about Indians reservations and Native Americans if
you prefer the term, and that's fine. Um, it seems
(12:07):
indisputable to me. Politically incorrect and controversial, yet indisputable. Native
American families would be so much better off living life
more like Jewish people. Celebrate the culture, have gatherings, have
your kids take classes after school to learn about the culture,
(12:28):
learned language, the songs, the history, Steep yourselves in it
and be proud of it, and get the hell off
the reservation and pursue a career in twenty one century America.
Or if you want to go somewhere else, go somewhere else.
Pursue a twenty first century productive life. Get over the
(12:51):
taking of lands from the eighteen hundreds. You have to
for yourself, be selfish and move on and love your
culture and celebrate it. But you know that nobody asked me,
so I'll shut up. According to Siri, there are fifteen
million Jews on planet Earth, only fifteen million in the
entire world. And uh, I'm sure Kanye has more Twitter
(13:14):
followers than that. So that was either Twitter or the
Graham I think it was Instagram. Yeah, I saw a
thing proposed last night on Twitter. Would you stay off
of Instagram for the rest of your life for ten dollars? Yes?
And it seemed unless they were they seem to be
pretty serious. A number of people saying, oh man, that's
(13:35):
a tough one. You know, wow, I did not get
the same benefit from social media that a lot of
y'all do. Of course, I get to be on the
radio every day, so maybe maybe I don't understand. Yeah yeah,
shut up you um Strong. We decided to call this
the best weekend talk show in America and if you
like it, download Armstrong and Getty on demand
Up from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George Washington
Broadcast Center is the ft weekend talk show in America.
I'm Strong and Tacking. Keys are strong and jetting. We
call this the best weekend talk show in America. Come on,
(00:31):
it's the age of hyperbole. In fact, it's the most
hyperbolic age I've ever heard of. It actually is the
best we can talk show in America because we take
a look and honest look at all the big stories,
the issues, the controversies of the week, cut through the
spin in the garbage fed you by those who would
lead you around by your nose, and try to get
to the truth. If you like it, check out our
daily podcast, I'm Strong and Getting on demand suggested Jeez,
(00:55):
I don't know a couple of years ago that he
had self driving cars. It not actually true, um uh
not yet anyway, certainly not for everybody. And the software
that you can use, which costs ten thousand dollars, just
became available to my car over the weekend and I
tried it out today. I had to drive me to
work today and I'll tell you how that went. Well,
(01:16):
you're here, So that's encouraging. If you've ever ridden with
your high school sophomore daughter as she gets her drivers
from gives you some idea, you know, I was just
about to make reference to underage girls, and I thought
I would explain why I'm going with girls and that boys.
First of all, the statement we refer to California as
(01:39):
cal Unicornia fairly frequently, and in fact, I think, can
we still at the Armstrong Getti story? Can you still
get a cal Unicornia flag? Which I uh proudly fly
in my home office. But anyway, um oh, and there's
one in the studio too, but anyway. So the reason
we we call California cal Unicornia is that the politics
(01:59):
of the state have a real feel of an eight
year old girl. That it's it's all based on feelings
and what would be wonderful if it were true Unicorns
and fairies and tea parties and that sort of thing,
and bears very little resemblance to reality. Now, the reason
I use little girls and little boys, and I have
(02:21):
raised both is that little boys fantasies tend to have
to do more with like giant killer robots and that
sort of thing. And and so Kelly under Cornea definitely
has more of an eight year old girl feel than
an eight year old boy. But anyway, having said that,
you may recall us reporting uh, several weeks ago, I
guess that the California Reparations Task Force was back with
(02:43):
their recommendations, and they suggested that the roughly two and
a half million black or African American Californians ought to
get big giant checks, and they got the term reparation
means in general. Just think at this point, I think,
at this point, people, do you want to uh, you
like to furnish your definition or one black people got
(03:08):
ripped off by slavery, soyom a bunch of money. We
being now now define the terms uh we Irish immigrants
that hit our shores in nineteen thirty and we're poor
until the nineteen seventies, for instance, I don't know who's
we um and and and uh in what way are
you still suffering? And compensations gets very complicated? Oh it does, indeed,
(03:31):
which is not for a single second to deny the
injustices of not only slavery, but the reconstruction era of
the Jim Crow era, the post or the pre nineteen
sixty four Civil Rights Act century terrible terrible. Having said that,
the idea of taking somebody's money and giving it to
somebody else but not them, and it's incredibly complicated and
(03:56):
not doable. But anyway, uh So, the State task for
identified all sorts of different areas of discrimination decided that,
uh for a bunch of people, because of the sins
of the middle part of the twentie century, that black
people ought to get about a quarter million dollars per person.
Total compensation of five and sixty nine billion dollars in
(04:17):
a state that's a total budget is a tiny fraction
of that. So that was the state uh panel. Well,
now San Francisco, as most of you realize Californians are not,
is kind of a hyper concentrated California. E California. Like
(04:38):
all of those eight year old girl unicorn fantasies that
are like prevalent in California, exists in their most distilled,
purer form in San Francisco. It is dance Uranium dance
fantasy land. In terms of politics, So, the city's African
American Reparations ADVIRS Advisory Committee released a draft report recently
(05:03):
that recommended pay out hefty reparations to the city's long
time black residents. I would say they're hefty, including a
five million dollar payment per qualifying person and a supplemental
income to low income residents for the next two hundred
and fifty years. It's all slavery goes back to two
(05:27):
hundred and fifty years. You have to go to two
hundred fifty years, and the forward is that it Yeah,
I guess that's roughly what they said. Yeah, five million
dollars to each black resident for two hundred fifty years. Well, no,
five million dollars payment lump some payment per qualifying person
(05:48):
and then on top of that, supplemental income to low
income residents for the next two hundred fifty years because
I saw the committee also proposed wiping out all debts
of associated with educational, personal credit card and payday loans
for black households. Right, Yeah, so you're gonna wipe out
all the credit card debt for black households. Correct, because
(06:09):
it's whether it's ten dollars because those people are very
responsible or the utter maximum because those people are are
nut jobs and spend beyond their means. Right either way,
Um that the City's African American Reparations Advisory Committee, UH
that that the claimed quote. San Francisco's international reputation as
a shining progressive jam in the West is undermined by
(06:30):
its legacy of mistreatment, violence toward, and targeted racism against
Black Americans. While neither San Francisco nor California formally adopted
the institution of shadows slavery, the values of segregation, white supremacy,
and systemic repression and exclusion of black people were legally
codified and enforced. The group wrote, and there is some
truth to that, but here's here's proof that they're crazy people.
(06:56):
The committee proposed the city make a lump sum payment
of five million dollars to black residents whore at least
eighteen and I've identified as black or African American on
public documents for at least ten years, So you could
be as white as a Rema copier paper. But if
you identify as black, you're in the running. Residents must
also meet at least two of eight other requirements. Among
those requirements always they had all eight. But among those
(07:18):
requirements is that the resident quote is personally or the
direct descendant of someone incarcerated by the failed War on Drugs.
Wait a minute, so if your dad ever went to
jail for drugs. You qualify right, right, If your granddad
was the cocaine overlord of Pacific Heights in the seventies,
(07:43):
you would get five million dollars because so because in
their mind, the war on drugs was a bad idea,
somebody racist idea, somebody who was legitimately doing something illegal. Yes,
and got thrown in jail for it. Yes, you was
a descendant of them, deserve five million dollars. Yes. And
(08:03):
if you're a poor Hispanic person, white person, Asian person, etcetera,
whose forebears would never deal drugs because that's a illegal
and be it ruins people's lives, you will get jack
effing squatted. Moving along, let's say, oh so that's one
of the Uh, that's one of the requirements. The other
requirement is or is a descendant of someone enslaved through
(08:26):
US chattel slavery before nineteen, which is a little more
to the point. So, how many people think the whole
reparations thing makes sense? I mean, they're there. There are
lots of people that got wronged horribly. You can't get
more wrong really than being a slave, hardly. I can't
come up with anything. I mean, that's about as awful
as again. But well, and I was just reading an
(08:46):
article about black families who owned a really valuable real
estate on the California coast and has got more and
more valuable. They got railroaded out of it, often being
paid the minimum amount of money and then show of
off the land. Utterly abhorrent. It's horrible. And the Native Americans.
You can come up with all kinds of people that
have been railroaded throughout the throughout history. But how do
(09:09):
you make somebody who didn't do any of those things
pay for it? How do how does that work? Well? Right, Well,
you've hold the society responsible and then say any member
of this society is going to chip in. One one
answer to the reparations argument that I've heard for a
(09:30):
very long time and I find persuasive, maybe imperfect, but persuasive,
is that if you had a situation like we were describing,
you know, from the eighteenth nineties century, which was full
of horror and discrimination racism against black people, one thing
you might do is spend trillions of dollars trillions through
the decades to lift up black families and black children
(09:52):
through public aid programs and housing and schooling and scholarships
and all sorts of stuff that's been done for a
very a very long time, and a lot of that
just breeds more dependence. It's it's bread, the dissolution of
the black family. It's been utterly on protect productive. So
going further down that road, I mean, you want to
(10:16):
see misery and hopelessness, go to an Indian reservation. With
all due respect, the fact that one culture took over
a land mass from another, which is the story of
every land mass on Earth throughout history, over and over again.
The idea that well, to uh to take care of that,
being awfully nasty will just make you dependent on the
(10:39):
government for the rest of your lives. You might as
well condemn people, well you do. You have condemned them
to misery and suicide in violence. It's the worst thing
you can do to a human being. So do you
get ay? So if you're black and you qualify for
the five million dollars, do you do you do? You
still pay your taxes the same way, though, do you
(10:59):
get a break on your tag? So you're not sure
they drilled down that low that far? I don't know.
When you're living in fantasy land, Jack, you don't get
into the tax code usually, and of course anybody who's white,
who whose family came to this country, you know, after slavery. Um,
(11:21):
you're being punished for a society you were, you and
your family lineage wasn't part of right right or may
indeed have been victims of in your own way. Yeah,
it's complicated, Yeah, yeah it is. You know. Um, it's funny.
I was just reading about the Jewish people and anti
Semitism and how certain forms of it are on the rise.
People were talking about Kanye West and the stupid stuff
(11:43):
he's said recently. Did you know that Kanye West has
more Instagram followers than there are Jews on Earth? Uh,
that didn't surprise me. Yeah, I don't have the numbers
in front of me, but that was stated in fact
in a pretty reliable publication. But you know, I, for instance,
I was talking about Indians reservations and Native Americans if
you prefer the term, and that's fine. Um, it seems
(12:07):
indisputable to me. Politically incorrect and controversial, yet indisputable. Native
American families would be so much better off living life
more like Jewish people. Celebrate the culture, have gatherings, have
your kids take classes after school to learn about the culture,
(12:28):
learned language, the songs, the history, Steep yourselves in it
and be proud of it, and get the hell off
the reservation and pursue a career in twenty one century America.
Or if you want to go somewhere else, go somewhere else.
Pursue a twenty first century productive life. Get over the
(12:51):
taking of lands from the eighteen hundreds. You have to
for yourself, be selfish and move on and love your
culture and celebrate it. But you know that nobody asked me,
so I'll shut up. According to Siri, there are fifteen
million Jews on planet Earth, only fifteen million in the
entire world. And uh, I'm sure Kanye has more Twitter
(13:14):
followers than that. So that was either Twitter or the
Graham I think it was Instagram. Yeah, I saw a
thing proposed last night on Twitter. Would you stay off
of Instagram for the rest of your life for ten dollars? Yes?
And it seemed unless they were they seem to be
pretty serious. A number of people saying, oh man, that's
(13:35):
a tough one. You know, wow, I did not get
the same benefit from social media that a lot of
y'all do. Of course, I get to be on the
radio every day, so maybe maybe I don't understand. Yeah yeah,
shut up you um Strong. We decided to call this
the best weekend talk show in America and if you
like it, download Armstrong and Getty on demand
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