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December 7, 2023 9 mins

Boy oh boy! Vivek didn't gain any fans on the show last night. WARNING: Spicy language ahead. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The trouble with viveke Rama Swami. And I'm gonna use
a political science term here.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
He's a dick. Oh, that's the trouble with him. Sorry
to be stretching criticism, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
To be so erudite, but that is his biggest problem.
I've never wanted to run on stage at a debate
and punch somebody right in the larynx. Like I knew
watching vivike Rama Swamy on the debate stage last night.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
What an ass hat.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I think I've figured him out completely now.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, he's pretty transparently what he is.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
The things that I just said in in other words
of similar tone, Well, he's like a uh Donald Trump
tribute band, right he is? He absolute trying to be
the insult comic.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah. And you know what's interesting now, I'll save it
for after the music blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Tutela Jar general manager today, those four poor sad sacks
yelling at each o they're on stage. What I thought
was interesting is and I'm thinking about this a lot now.
I know some of y'all and a lot of people
in the country feel this way about Donald Trump. But
to me, when Donald Trump insults people. There's something different.

(01:18):
It's not as hard edged. It's more playful. It's I
laugh at that sort of thing. I mean him him
calling Rand Paul ugly or various things like that, or
Chris Christy fat makes me laugh. VI Vike Ramaswami for
whatever reason, makes me want to strangle him on the stage. Yes, Michael,
he comes across as mean. Yeah, so there's a the

(01:39):
and that's the trouble. It's like Joe and I used
talk about this a lot. When Howard Stern became a
big deal. There are so many radio shows that would
just start talking dirty. Well, there was an art to
it that they didn't understand that Howard Stern could pull
off and they couldn't. And it's the same as the
same with Viveke. I don't know what the exactly the
subtlety is of. Yes, Katie, you have an opinion on this. No,

(02:03):
I'll just tell you right now. He's not winning any
points with women at all.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, he comes off as such a bro he does.
He's coming off as a frat boy.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
And I've talked to several of my friends who are
on our team politically, and they are all on the
same page thinking he's absolutely a dick.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's just like you said.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
But so the difference between Vivek's insults and Trump's is
it the wording? Is it the tone? Is it the look?
Because the looks off pudding, And I don't mean because
he's brown. It's just he's just got this. I'm he's
snarling when he delivers these lines, as opposed to Trump,
who's rolling his eyes and chuckling. Yeah, there's something. There's

(02:43):
some difference there, and it reminded me of when one
of the Castro brothers, one of the Hispanic Democrats, who
he and his brother took Spanish lessons that could come
off as more authentically Spanish, remember when when they're when
he was on the stage with Joe bidenes, would you forget?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Did you forget?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Already? Similar sort of thing, just you know, trump Ish,
but a certain edge to it that just makes you,
I'll shut up. Well right, It's it's all about the tone.
The tone of Vivakaz or that Castro numb skull. It
feels like the next thing to happen is guys are

(03:21):
gonna start punching each other, Whereas again with Trump, he
throws those insults and you feel like the next thing
that's gonna happen is the next the other guy's gonna
throw a wise crack back, and Trump is just gonna
roll his eyes and laugh. Yeah, that's true. You are
right about that. Now, I would say, I think we'd
be better off without all of that. While I do
laugh at Trump's comments regularly, I think we'd be better

(03:43):
off without all of that. I you know, last agree,
there is a lot of thrown around.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
You're a liar. No, you're a liar.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I mean, it's just this sort of thing that used
to never ever happen. I mean, you don't have to
go back very many cycles at all. And if a
Canada had said on stage you're a liar, it would
have been a political earthquake.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like, oh my god. Now it's just.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Constant, well, liar, please, that's seventy five miles in the
rearview mirror. We're on to fascists last night, and and
fat it was. It was difficult to watch. It was
like seeing your mother at a dog fight last night.

(04:25):
It was just shameful on many different levels, like your
mom's in the stands at a dog fight watching a
dog fight, for instance. Yeah, yeah, holy yeah, yes, not
like as a combatant or like owns one of the
dogs that could be too. The point is the shame, Jack,
It's a shame. Never mind what my mom or you're

(04:48):
somebody's mom was doing there, she shouldn't be there. Shame,
that's right, shame. So I find myself wondering, are we
going through a period here of that's the way it's
going to work?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Will we demand better and uh?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
And people will be rewarded for acting better than that
and then go back to the way it was at
some point or or does this last like eighty years?
I think mostly people will tire of it. It's new,
it's different, It is sometimes amusing, but it's it's tiresome.

(05:27):
And and you're Howard Stern example was actually a really
good one.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
That sort of look, we're guys who say dirty words.
Radio came and went right.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I mean, you had to have talent, you had to
be able to entertain people, and and that sort of
talent is fairly rare. Trump's a phenomenon as a communicator,
and many have tried to duplicate it and done it poorly,
and that they they were almost it's hard to take.
And he also has that look on his face of

(05:59):
I like.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
That you hate me.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I'm rich and successful that I can say do anything
I want, and I love that you hate me. He
is one of the most smug people I've ever come
across all my life. Is the definition of it. God,
he's hard to take. Nikki Haley wanted to kill him.
Chris Christy wanted to kill him. Yeah, yeah, God, that
was something. We got a lot of clips from the
debate we'll play, but the nonverbal visuals are important to

(06:24):
the whole thing too. God, dang it, just where we
are and I have mocked for years, in years and
years and years, mocked this hole.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
This is the most important election of our lives.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Every two years, the most important election of our lives
is the year the two thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
And you look back on it, really but.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, we're there's some pretty pretty heavy stuff happening
right now.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And that's what we got.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I don't even want to talk about it. And a
ninety seven percent of America joins me in saying the
idea of during these very spicy times, Trump and Biden,
you know, squaring off to lead this great nation that's
pretty discouraged, you know, First of all, that welcome Jack

(07:16):
Armstrong to News Nation as the first time I'd ever
sought out the channel and watched it. A good friend
of mine who's super into politics, he's actually the guy
that turned me onto Fox News decades ago, said do
you watch Fox News't now, I've heard of it, but
fair and Balance. Then got check it out. He's a
big News Nation guy, and that's for time. I'd watch it.

(07:37):
For some reason, in my mind, I had it as
kind of like, you know, I don't know second tier
professionalism it is. It was fantastic all the way. Read's
what the WGN superstation became when their ownership decided that
should be a news station instead of running one day
at a time reruns in Cubs games. So I got

(07:59):
to make that part of my daily diet. But anyway,
one of the questioners on News Nation last night brought
up a point that I hadn't heard anybody make before.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
But it's obviously true.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Mathematically Trump gets elected, he'll be older than Biden was
when he took office, and we were all talking about
he's too old. Yeah, yeah, it's about mental acuity, not age.
But that's still significant. Absolutely, But I'd say so that
is really quite amazing. And as DeSantis was pointing out,

(08:30):
you know, even if he's fine, now, I mean we're
really getting into how far are we going to push
this territory with old people we don't care signed Trump fans?
Well no, I I well, I yeah, I get that, but.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's just how how do we get to where we
got eighty year old's running? I don't know, I don't
like it.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Anyway, we should start the show officially before we get
in trouble with the FCC.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Man they really been and non lately.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this It is Thursday,
December seventh, also known as Pearl Harbor Day. Actually, I
thought Joe Scarborough said something funny on MSNBC today. He said,
it is Pearl Harbor Day and with the world at war,
we're going to talk about Vivak.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
That's a good line.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Here twenty twenty three, we are Armstrong and Getty taking
up arms against a sea of troubles, and we approve
of this program. Alrighty, then let's beget officially now. According
to FCC rules regulations, the show begins at mark, So do.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Everybody a favor.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Just walk yourself off that stage, enjoy a nice meal,
and get the hell out of this place. Shut up,
you despicable assh hat oh More.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
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