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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So a couple of disclaimers before we launch into this.
Number one, it's on the topic of dealing with transgender things. Uh,
specifically medical treatments for people who believe they are in
the wrong body or you know they've been mised gendered
or what have you. Uh. The usual disclaimer, this has
(00:20):
nothing to do with adults. This is only about children.
And the second thing is a lot of the information
here is taken from the Twitter account of one Matt Walsh,
who many of you know, some of you don't. Uh.
He is a conservative activist and writer. UM. I don't
agree with everything Matt says, but often I do so
(00:41):
if somewhere in the past or future he said something abhorrant,
I'm not talking about that. It's just like Trump. I
agree like crazy with Trump. Sometimes sometimes I think he's
completely wrong. So anyway, he writes, my team and I
have been investigating the transgender clinic at Vanderbilt here in Nashville.
It's where he lives. Obviously underbuilt drugs, chemically castrates and
(01:02):
performs double mastectomies on miners. But it gets worse. Here's
what we've found and he gets into and we will
get into that. Uh. In a minute, but first I
want to read to something very brief. The New York
Times did a story the other day more trans teens
are choosing top surgery, and it's all very cheery about
(01:25):
adolescent girls who come to believe the reason for their
unhappiness is that they ought to be boys and they
get double mestectomies. That's what they mean by top surgery. Yes,
that's a heck of a decision to make. And then
I came across and it's all very cheery, as I said, um,
and they barely touch on the fact that there's very,
(01:47):
very little research to indicate that this is a good idea.
I mentioned some you know, a poll of four people
who said they're happier now I know or have known
half dozen women went through a period where they thought
they were gay men decided they're really not. I realized
that's not as big a decision as I'm you know, uh,
(02:10):
wrongly gendered. But you know, you can you can think
a lot of things when you're younger turn out not
to be the gays. And you know, if we didn't
have as much material from the Walsh stuff as we do,
I would I would go deeply into this piece written
by Eddie Scarry that goes goes through a bunch of
cases in major publications, including many liberal publications of uh,
(02:34):
there's Claire, there's Max, there's uh let's see uh no name,
and this one there's Claudia. All of these people, person
after person after person who says I was unhappy. I
was confused. I thought that was the answer. I had
something permanent done to my body, and I realized that
wasn't the answer at all, and now I can't undo it.
(02:57):
I was unhappy for other reasons I didn't fit in.
I was gay, I was scarred from sexual abuse, etcetera, etcetera.
But I never ever should have done anything permanent. And
the cases are just heartbreaking. Anyway, back to Matt Walsh's blog,
Vanderbilt in Nashville, uh So, he says Vanderbilt opened its
(03:19):
trans clinic in During lecture the same year, Dr Shane
Taylor explained how she convinced Nashville to get into the
gender transition game. Noticed she emphasized that it's a big
money maker, especially because the surgeries require a lot of
follow ups. Go ahead with clips sixty. Michael Last a
(03:43):
couple of years ago, and he favorite bring in and
this is only including costs including any and it's a
lot of my uh so females. A mail after you
instruction can bring in four thousand dollars patient just on
(04:04):
routine WRMO treatment, who I'm only saying a few times
a year can bring in total thousand dollars. That are
are a lot of visits and lads which actually makes
money for the hospital. Now these egotomy internet um, but
it's from the Philadelphias that are for trans gatter surgery,
which has done a lot of surgery for patients. And
I tryd of gave an idea contin box surgeries are
(04:27):
making and this is I think this has to be
an under estimate. This is for avaginal classy. They're saying
they're quay probably around twenty thousand dollars for a backum
the positi. But that doesn't include your hospital stay, that
doesn't include your post off visite, that doesn't include um,
your okay week idea, you can fade that out. The
(04:47):
doctor explaining how much money we can make if we
get into this business. I'll refer back to the Eddy
scary piece. Every single one of the poor victims of
this that were interviewed in the multiple publications again including
The Atlantic for instance, which had a hell of a
piece a couple of years ago. Every single one of
(05:08):
them cited a psychiatrist or a doctor or an activist
that whenever anybody expressed any doubt, they said, shut up.
You can't bully this person. Shut up. Even if it
was the patient themselves, they would say, oh, no, you're
making the right decision. You're absolutely making the right decision. Obscene.
(05:29):
Moving along, Vanderbilt was apparently concerned that not all of
its staff would be on board. Dr ellen Clayton warned
that conscientious objections are problematic. That's the great phrase used
by critical theory, critical race theory, critical queer theory, all
that stuff that's problematic, and then they pick it apart.
(05:49):
And anyone who decides not to be involved in transition
surgeries due to religious beliefs will face consequences. Clip sixty one.
Michael chance to subjection. You haven't realized that that is problematic.
You are doing something to another person and you are
(06:11):
not paying for the cost for your belief. I think
that is a real I mean, I think that's a
real issue. So um so, I think you know so
you're so, yes, Vanderbilt. If someone has a conscious yet
objection to person for participating in a sort of surgery,
(06:34):
if in probably have to accommodatings told the extent that
that you can find another person with U your job
who doesn't have an objection other things of that nature.
But I just want you to take home that's saying
that you're not going to do something because if you're
a conscientious because of your religious beliefs, is not without consequences.
(06:58):
And it's true not want there were this work. Well,
that was clear enough. If you dare say, hey, I
think this is wrong. These are confused adolescents, you will
(07:19):
face consequences. And, as Walsh writes, in case the objectors
hadn't got the memo, Vandorbilt unveiled a program called trans Buddies.
The Buddies are transactivists from the community who attend appointments
with trans patients, monitoring the doctors to guard against unsafe
behaviors such as miss gender ing, and as I pointed
(07:40):
out earlier, for goodness sakes, never for a second raising
the possibility that this is a confused, unhappy adolescent who's
looking for an answer, and this is the wrong one.
Don't even bring that up sixty two. My name is
(08:01):
Sean Riley and I am the program coordinator for trans
Buddy at the Program for LGBTQ Health at Bandabult University.
Trans Buddy provide trained peer advocates for transgender patients who
are coming for doctor's appointments or other healthcare related services.
Whether you're looking for something that's related to medical transition,
such as hormone therapy, or something completely unrelated like breaking
(08:22):
an arm, are going to an ant, We're here here
to help support any transgender patients that come through our doors.
The trans Bunny program was organically created through the efforts
of transgender people and continues to consistently be led by
trans people in Middle Tennessee. Okay you Can Transporting program
is one of the comes the Charming trans Buddies program
with the Chinese music so Uh the Vanderbilt their Nashville
(08:47):
makes their trans Buddies available to children too, and they
make lots of services available to children quote unquote, services
including chemical castration also known as hormone therapy, often using
the same drug, by the way, that they used to
chemically cast rate sex offenders. Do you remember that? And
when that was a big topic of discussion, I think
was in the nineties. UM At some point in the
(09:08):
last month, Vanderbilt removed any explicit admission of the fact
that they will treat children from their website, but somebody
archived a screen shot from back in the day that
made it absolutely clear that they do. In fact, there's
a video in which they proudly proclaim at sixty three,
we can provide gender affirming hormones on an individual who
(09:30):
was on a pubertal blocker, depending on whatever kind of
blocker they've chosen, or we have discussed with them, or
they can present to us at a later stage of puberty,
and then we provide the gender affirming hormones. Previously, the
Entercrine Society recommended to start these at age sixteen, but
we all know that would be delayed puberty, right not
sixteen year olds don't start puberty. So more recently they
(09:51):
did update that to say as early as fourteen for
compelling reasons. So we have some individuals who have started
gender affirming hormones at thirteen or fourteen to be more
like their peers. Again, fertility preservation and consent are very
important to discuss Prior to any initiation of the AH
consent from a thirteen year old list for me, please
(10:13):
the things the thirteen year old is legally able to
consent to. Yeah, we're done, because the list is nothing
practically nothing. Uh one more for you? Uh does Vanderbilt
happily perform double massed ectomies on adolescent girls children? Why
don't we find out? And clip sixty four. So when
we when we talk about the w PATH guidelines, so
(10:35):
in order for our patients to really um successfully undergo
these surgeries, we do again follow these guidelines. So a
lot of times it's more insurance purposes, but again insurances
kind of follow suit with the w PATH guidelines for
the most part. So for any kind of top surgery,
we do require one letter of persistent, well documented gender
(10:58):
dystoria by license mental health eider UM. We ensure that
the patient is capable of making fully informed decisions on
their own they're the age of majority. However, for a
lot of our younger patients, again, if they are sixteen
seventeen here at Vanderbilt UM, if they have been on testosterone,
(11:18):
have a parental consent um, we're able to do a
lot of the top surgeries for those patients, okay, and again, uh,
it's children consenting to this sort of thing. And they
mentioned one documented episode signed by a healthcare professional back
to the Eddy Scary piece, in which they point out
time and time and time again, psychiatrists, psychologists, activists who
(11:43):
signed these things have convinced the people that this is
their issue. So let's review, Matt Walsh writes, and I agree.
Vanderbilt got into the gender transition game in large part
because it is very financially profitable. Then they threatened any
staff members who objected and enlisted a gang of activists
to act as surveillance in order to force compliance. They
now castrate, sterilize, and mutilize miners as well as adults,
(12:06):
while apparently staking taking steps to hide this activity from
the public view. This is what healthcare has become in
modern America. Armstrong and Getty
So a couple of disclaimers before we launch into this.
Number one, it's on the topic of dealing with transgender things. Uh,
specifically medical treatments for people who believe they are in
the wrong body or you know they've been mised gendered
or what have you. Uh. The usual disclaimer, this has
(00:20):
nothing to do with adults. This is only about children.
And the second thing is a lot of the information
here is taken from the Twitter account of one Matt Walsh,
who many of you know, some of you don't. Uh.
He is a conservative activist and writer. UM. I don't
agree with everything Matt says, but often I do so
(00:41):
if somewhere in the past or future he said something abhorrant,
I'm not talking about that. It's just like Trump. I
agree like crazy with Trump. Sometimes sometimes I think he's
completely wrong. So anyway, he writes, my team and I
have been investigating the transgender clinic at Vanderbilt here in Nashville.
It's where he lives. Obviously underbuilt drugs, chemically castrates and
(01:02):
performs double mastectomies on miners. But it gets worse. Here's
what we've found and he gets into and we will
get into that. Uh. In a minute, but first I
want to read to something very brief. The New York
Times did a story the other day more trans teens
are choosing top surgery, and it's all very cheery about
(01:25):
adolescent girls who come to believe the reason for their
unhappiness is that they ought to be boys and they
get double mestectomies. That's what they mean by top surgery. Yes,
that's a heck of a decision to make. And then
I came across and it's all very cheery, as I said, um,
and they barely touch on the fact that there's very,
(01:47):
very little research to indicate that this is a good idea.
I mentioned some you know, a poll of four people
who said they're happier now I know or have known
half dozen women went through a period where they thought
they were gay men decided they're really not. I realized
that's not as big a decision as I'm you know, uh,
(02:10):
wrongly gendered. But you know, you can you can think
a lot of things when you're younger turn out not
to be the gays. And you know, if we didn't
have as much material from the Walsh stuff as we do,
I would I would go deeply into this piece written
by Eddie Scarry that goes goes through a bunch of
cases in major publications, including many liberal publications of uh,
(02:34):
there's Claire, there's Max, there's uh let's see uh no name,
and this one there's Claudia. All of these people, person
after person after person who says I was unhappy. I
was confused. I thought that was the answer. I had
something permanent done to my body, and I realized that
wasn't the answer at all, and now I can't undo it.
(02:57):
I was unhappy for other reasons I didn't fit in.
I was gay, I was scarred from sexual abuse, etcetera, etcetera.
But I never ever should have done anything permanent. And
the cases are just heartbreaking. Anyway, back to Matt Walsh's blog,
Vanderbilt in Nashville, uh So, he says Vanderbilt opened its
(03:19):
trans clinic in During lecture the same year, Dr Shane
Taylor explained how she convinced Nashville to get into the
gender transition game. Noticed she emphasized that it's a big
money maker, especially because the surgeries require a lot of
follow ups. Go ahead with clips sixty. Michael Last a
(03:43):
couple of years ago, and he favorite bring in and
this is only including costs including any and it's a
lot of my uh so females. A mail after you
instruction can bring in four thousand dollars patient just on
(04:04):
routine WRMO treatment, who I'm only saying a few times
a year can bring in total thousand dollars. That are
are a lot of visits and lads which actually makes
money for the hospital. Now these egotomy internet um, but
it's from the Philadelphias that are for trans gatter surgery,
which has done a lot of surgery for patients. And
I tryd of gave an idea contin box surgeries are
(04:27):
making and this is I think this has to be
an under estimate. This is for avaginal classy. They're saying
they're quay probably around twenty thousand dollars for a backum
the positi. But that doesn't include your hospital stay, that
doesn't include your post off visite, that doesn't include um,
your okay week idea, you can fade that out. The
(04:47):
doctor explaining how much money we can make if we
get into this business. I'll refer back to the Eddy
scary piece. Every single one of the poor victims of
this that were interviewed in the multiple publications again including
The Atlantic for instance, which had a hell of a
piece a couple of years ago. Every single one of
(05:08):
them cited a psychiatrist or a doctor or an activist
that whenever anybody expressed any doubt, they said, shut up.
You can't bully this person. Shut up. Even if it
was the patient themselves, they would say, oh, no, you're
making the right decision. You're absolutely making the right decision. Obscene.
(05:29):
Moving along, Vanderbilt was apparently concerned that not all of
its staff would be on board. Dr ellen Clayton warned
that conscientious objections are problematic. That's the great phrase used
by critical theory, critical race theory, critical queer theory, all
that stuff that's problematic, and then they pick it apart.
(05:49):
And anyone who decides not to be involved in transition
surgeries due to religious beliefs will face consequences. Clip sixty one.
Michael chance to subjection. You haven't realized that that is problematic.
You are doing something to another person and you are
(06:11):
not paying for the cost for your belief. I think
that is a real I mean, I think that's a
real issue. So um so, I think you know so
you're so, yes, Vanderbilt. If someone has a conscious yet
objection to person for participating in a sort of surgery,
(06:34):
if in probably have to accommodatings told the extent that
that you can find another person with U your job
who doesn't have an objection other things of that nature.
But I just want you to take home that's saying
that you're not going to do something because if you're
a conscientious because of your religious beliefs, is not without consequences.
(06:58):
And it's true not want there were this work. Well,
that was clear enough. If you dare say, hey, I
think this is wrong. These are confused adolescents, you will
(07:19):
face consequences. And, as Walsh writes, in case the objectors
hadn't got the memo, Vandorbilt unveiled a program called trans Buddies.
The Buddies are transactivists from the community who attend appointments
with trans patients, monitoring the doctors to guard against unsafe
behaviors such as miss gender ing, and as I pointed
(07:40):
out earlier, for goodness sakes, never for a second raising
the possibility that this is a confused, unhappy adolescent who's
looking for an answer, and this is the wrong one.
Don't even bring that up sixty two. My name is
(08:01):
Sean Riley and I am the program coordinator for trans
Buddy at the Program for LGBTQ Health at Bandabult University.
Trans Buddy provide trained peer advocates for transgender patients who
are coming for doctor's appointments or other healthcare related services.
Whether you're looking for something that's related to medical transition,
such as hormone therapy, or something completely unrelated like breaking
(08:22):
an arm, are going to an ant, We're here here
to help support any transgender patients that come through our doors.
The trans Bunny program was organically created through the efforts
of transgender people and continues to consistently be led by
trans people in Middle Tennessee. Okay you Can Transporting program
is one of the comes the Charming trans Buddies program
with the Chinese music so Uh the Vanderbilt their Nashville
(08:47):
makes their trans Buddies available to children too, and they
make lots of services available to children quote unquote, services
including chemical castration also known as hormone therapy, often using
the same drug, by the way, that they used to
chemically cast rate sex offenders. Do you remember that? And
when that was a big topic of discussion, I think
was in the nineties. UM At some point in the
(09:08):
last month, Vanderbilt removed any explicit admission of the fact
that they will treat children from their website, but somebody
archived a screen shot from back in the day that
made it absolutely clear that they do. In fact, there's
a video in which they proudly proclaim at sixty three,
we can provide gender affirming hormones on an individual who
(09:30):
was on a pubertal blocker, depending on whatever kind of
blocker they've chosen, or we have discussed with them, or
they can present to us at a later stage of puberty,
and then we provide the gender affirming hormones. Previously, the
Entercrine Society recommended to start these at age sixteen, but
we all know that would be delayed puberty, right not
sixteen year olds don't start puberty. So more recently they
(09:51):
did update that to say as early as fourteen for
compelling reasons. So we have some individuals who have started
gender affirming hormones at thirteen or fourteen to be more
like their peers. Again, fertility preservation and consent are very
important to discuss Prior to any initiation of the AH
consent from a thirteen year old list for me, please
(10:13):
the things the thirteen year old is legally able to
consent to. Yeah, we're done, because the list is nothing
practically nothing. Uh one more for you? Uh does Vanderbilt
happily perform double massed ectomies on adolescent girls children? Why
don't we find out? And clip sixty four. So when
we when we talk about the w PATH guidelines, so
(10:35):
in order for our patients to really um successfully undergo
these surgeries, we do again follow these guidelines. So a
lot of times it's more insurance purposes, but again insurances
kind of follow suit with the w PATH guidelines for
the most part. So for any kind of top surgery,
we do require one letter of persistent, well documented gender
(10:58):
dystoria by license mental health eider UM. We ensure that
the patient is capable of making fully informed decisions on
their own they're the age of majority. However, for a
lot of our younger patients, again, if they are sixteen
seventeen here at Vanderbilt UM, if they have been on testosterone,
(11:18):
have a parental consent um, we're able to do a
lot of the top surgeries for those patients, okay, and again, uh,
it's children consenting to this sort of thing. And they
mentioned one documented episode signed by a healthcare professional back
to the Eddy Scary piece, in which they point out
time and time and time again, psychiatrists, psychologists, activists who
(11:43):
signed these things have convinced the people that this is
their issue. So let's review, Matt Walsh writes, and I agree.
Vanderbilt got into the gender transition game in large part
because it is very financially profitable. Then they threatened any
staff members who objected and enlisted a gang of activists
to act as surveillance in order to force compliance. They
now castrate, sterilize, and mutilize miners as well as adults,
(12:06):
while apparently staking taking steps to hide this activity from
the public view. This is what healthcare has become in
modern America. Armstrong and Getty
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