Karen Read Trial 2 Updates With Nick Rocco

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
I've gotten a lot of messages already thus far, questions
for Nick, Nick, good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Good morning, how you doing good?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
So you and I were just chatting right before we
came on air, and I had said to you that,
you know, again I for a lack of better words,
because what we're trying to do here is find out
what happened to John O'Keefe, and there was a life loss,
and I never want us to forget that because he
should still be here today. But this week, you know,

(01:06):
some of the testimonies lullg you a little bit. I said,
you know, for instance, like a meteorologist, and you said, no, Ash,
a meteorologist is very important for people who maybe were
like a me and thought, I'm not going to watch
the testimony today I'll wait until you know a bigger
player gets on talk about why other people that were
on the stand this week are important.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
So with the meteorologist, yes, we learned this was one
of the biggest storms in January's history, But the most
important thing that he said was majority of the snow
came after six o'clock. So when Jen McCabe and Julie
Nagel and Sarah Levinston were pretty much one of the
last people to leave that house at one forty five,

(01:50):
there was only zero point eight inches, so not even
an inch of snow on the ground yet. And as
Sarah had stated, you know there you could say still
see the grass through the snow, which would mean that
if John O'Keefe was laying on the lawn, point eight
inches of snow was not covering his body, you would
not miss him laying there on the lawn. Fast forward

(02:11):
to six in the morning when Karen Reid finds him,
there's only three point nine inches of snow on the ground,
which still would not cover a human body, so you
would still see him out there on the lawn. Hence
why she was able to see him.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
To play Devil's advocate here, because I know this was
brought up. There were lights on in the house that
would have lit up the front part of the lawn,
But do we believe that over by the flagpole it
would have been lit enough that you would have seen
a body, right, because you could argue that it was
one something in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's dark out, but you're looking. When you're looking for something,
your eyes are more peeled. And for example, they left
Jen McCabe's house, they went to John's house to look
for John. The next place they were going to look
for John was thirty four fear of you, so they
were going there to look for him. Hence, so if
if the house is on the left hand side, you're

(03:03):
going to be looking out the left hand side. And
don't forget carry Robertson's car, you know, she claims it was.
It was horrible conditions, so she was probably driving in
the middle of the road and then and the headlights
they don't just they don't just go completely straight. They
do go out to the left a little bit and
to the right of your vehicle. So the yard probably
was lit up with her with her.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm specifically talking about when Jen Jen Mett and Sarah
Levinson and the other girl that was with them, the
four of them left. You're saying there wasn't a lot
of snow on the ground, they should have been able
to identify his body had it been outside. But my
point is, what if it was legit just dark because
remember she said, she said, I was looking down at
my feet.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
It was slippery. We got in the car and we left.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, why would they why would they if why would
they ever be looking for something?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know what I mean, Like, it's you're leaving a party.
It was fun, is it. I'm not going to be like,
all right.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I texted, they back out of the dry right. Once
you back out of that driveway and you're about to
throw your car into drive, your vehicle is literally pointing
at the flagpole, like your headlights are directly on the flagpole.
But unfortunately, Jen, Julie, and Sarah were all talking about
peanut butter and jelly sandwiches at the time, so they

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weren't looking out the windows. But Matt's driving, Matt's eyes
are straight ahead, you know. Jen said, Matt was focused
on the road the whole time. So if he throws
his car into drives, when he throws that car and
drive his headlights are literally on the flagpole. Like John,
John wasn't that far off from the street, so it's
not like he was like deep into the wooded area

(04:41):
he was. He was very close to the street. Don't
forget when Julie Nagel gets on the stand, she quote
unquote saw a black blob, so she had saw something
but didn't tell anybody for eight months later. So the
stories just don't add up. Brian Higgins, for example, if
his jeep was really parked out front the minute he

(05:03):
put his cow on and his and his headlights came on,
John o'keef would have been right there. Yeah, there's just
no way that anybody would have missed him.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
The Brian Higgins thing, I can see, but I don't.
I left Marshfield this morning at three something in the morning.
I couldn't tell you what was on anybody. I'm sorry,
like just I'm saying just to play the other side
of it, but I do see exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
As well as well. Every everything it gets a little
bit lighter out, Like the ground is is all white,
so which which is going to reflect the moonlight? Everything
gets a little bit lighter outside. When when there's snow
on the ground, and even if it's a dusting on
the ground, it still makes everything seem a little bit brighter.
There was there was no snow on the street, as

(05:47):
as the meteorologist testified to you. You know, you would
have been able to track a cat, but the most
likely in the street you wouldn't have seen like tire marks,
which Jen McCabe claims she had seen at the time.
So there's just so much no there is.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
There's no there is.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
There's so much you could depending on who you're taling
to set a perfect scene. I feel like for each side,
you you really really could, you know. And then there's
there's the argument of when police came on scene, still
staying in the meteorology realm, in the snow and all
these things, there were no there was no evidence to

(06:23):
back that a body had been either drug out to
the street, carried out, no shoeprints, no evidence of that.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Well, here's here's the issue with that. Depending on what
time John o'keef was put outside on the lawn, it
was continuing to snow, so any footprints or drag marks
could have potentially been covered up with snow. But here's
The thing is, I personally don't think he was actually
I don't think they dragged him out there, like like
you know, ass on the ground, dragged out there. I

(06:54):
think he was carried out there. I don't think they
actually When people say he was dragged out there, I
think they're assuming like he was literally dragged by his
hands exactly, Like yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Thinking hands under the shoulder on the button.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yes, yeah, if anything, I would say he would have
been carried outside, not not actually dragged outside.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Okay, it is yeah, Like you've had so many people
seeing you because he's a tall guy and he's heavy,
so you're carrying dead weight. It's gonna take a few
yah to carry him, walk him out into the yard,
and then drop him, like, and you're risking everybody seeing you,
that your co working across the street, the cop to
see you.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Two oh Ford Edge parked exactly where John o'keif's body
was found. That's why the plow driver couldn't get down
the street. So was that vehicle there on purpose to
block anything that was happening at the time, And if
John O'Keefe was on the lawn at twelve thirty thirty two,
like the Commonwealth's claiming, and that vehicle was there. Let's
say at three in the morning, that person who parked

(07:55):
the car had to have gotten out of the vehicle.
There's no way he would have missed. John literally poked
right next door.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So to you Nick when Sarah Levinson gets on the
stand and she says, it was happy. It was a party,
we were playing music there, nothing changed when the adults
got to the house. Whatever, we got into the car,
we left, we went home. I stopped drinking. So I
can you know you think she is just bold face
line under oath?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, I think I stated this before. You know, depending
where you are in that house, when you walk so
that you have the front door and you have the
side door the front door. I don't know if you've
ever seen the layout of the house. If you walk
through the front door, you have you have a door
on your left, which is a big room they called
the study, and then maybe three feet forward is the

(08:43):
door to go downstairs. So John could have easily walked
in and went right downstairs or something like that. So
there could have been people in the kitchen that they
didn't see him. So realistically, some of those people that
were in the house really may not have saw John,
like they may really not have seen him, but at
this point they I'm sure they're aware of what happened.

(09:03):
But but anybody in New England knows less than an
inch of snow, that's nothing. I mean, you people bob
and pointing inches of snow.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
We're living, We're living out our normal day with an
inch of snow. I I I will, I will confirm that.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
For these people to say though, like oh, I was
looking down at my feet. I had to be very
careful walking, It's like this isn't you live in New England?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
This is nothing, This is no slippery I made what
kind of traction she had going the cold?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
The old navy flip flop?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Fom they remember details like that, like I was looking
down at my feet, or I was talking about peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches, but they don't remember anything else.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, she'd no, come on, let's be specific.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Sarah Levinson does the other ones I'll give you, But
I I thought her testimony was pretty damning for Karen
because she stopped drinking, she had dinner there, she was
there the entire night and she's like, let's and nothing
was awry like we were hanging out. It was fine,
it was a party. We also heard the voicemails this week, Nick,
you know these. I'm gonna play just a little recap

(10:10):
on some of Karen's voicemails.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
John, John, I'm going home.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
I cannot maybe sit in me.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
I need to go home. You are using me right now.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
You're another girl leaping next to me. You're a loser yourself.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Listen, Karen's craziness and her voicemails doesn't mean she killed
John o'keef.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
But I don't know necessarily if you're in the jury,
if those voicemails play well for you, because you know,
we all I guess the jury doesn't know it yet
because we haven't got there, but we all know. It's
interesting to hear Karen call John a pervert when she
was having a little something something on the side with
Brian Higgins. No.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, so I was there that day. I watched, I
watched the jury during these voicemails. A few of them
took notes down, but it didn't really seem to phase
them much because of the fact I think where you
just said, it's not evidence that she had killed him.
What what they're what the what the state is trying
to do is show motive. Now you have you have

(11:20):
Karen Reid on these voicemails, These would be self incriminating herself.
She would basically be admitting to what she had done
if she had if she had hit him, most most
people would call and be like, John, you know, I
wish you left with me, I wish you came home.
You know, where are you? I miss you?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
If you're so drunk you don't remember.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
But when you hear when you hear Karen on the scene, Okay,
that that's that's genuine and that's raw emotion of finding her,
of finding her boyfriend. If she had known, if she
knew she hit John O'Keeffe, that reaction would have been
a lot faker. She wouldn't have been able to She
wouldn't have been able to act the way that she
did on scene when she found John O'Keeffe had she
known she did something earlier. But don't don't forget too

(12:08):
everybody at the bar that puts them at the bar.
I know we haven't seen a lot of the witnesses yet,
and we may not see these witnesses called by the
state but from the last trial, at least everybody says
that she wasn't. She wasn't like nobody was drunk. They
weren't drunk. She wasn't stumbling, she wasn't slurring her words.
She was okay to drive. So because of the blood

(12:28):
alcohol level, we don't know what her tolerance is. For example,
she might have a higher tolerance than I do. She
may drink more than I do, so she might she
might be able to handle this stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
So you know in that missing one person on the
team and said that I've always said that. All right, Nick,
I have a couple of things. Well, let's let's let's play.
The clip from Uri Uri was did you were you
able to? I know you have life and a job.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Were you able to?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Okay? Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
So Uri took the stand yesterday all day. He'll be
back on again today. Here's just a little clip of
a back and forth between Alan Jackson and Urie Bukanek.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Was that a question? I'm sorry?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Is everything I say?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Question?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Honor and integrity by Michael Prompter.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Okay, sustained to the comment.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Go ahead and ask you again.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
You said.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Honor and integrity by Michael Proctor. Okay, I love it.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
The investigation was conducted with honor and integrity, and all
the evidence pointed in one direction, in one direction only.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So, Sergeant Buchanic, you don't want to answer my question.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Correct, I will answer your question absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Do you think this case was handled with honor and
integrity by Michael Proctor?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Sergeant, the investigation was handled with integrity by Michael Proctor.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Nick I said it earlier. I don't care what side
you're on.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think Alan Jackson put on a clinic yesterday of
doing exactly what he needed to do, which was paint
the picture that. Yeah, Uri, you may have been the guy,
you may have been in charge. But every document, all
these documents I'm showing most things that involved this investigation.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
At thirty four of air View and the death of John.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
O'Keefe had a pawprint from Michael Procter on it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Wait, what host are we talking about? I'm just kidding.
That's a year. That's a year exactly what I'm saying. Yeah,
I mean, listen, you know, Yury wants to obviously defend
Michael Proctor because at the end of the day, it's
a reflection of him, like he's boss. So so if

(14:50):
if he was, does he truly believe that? Absolutely not.
But can he say that in front of in front
of a jury, No, Because then that's that's case ending.
If if you have your boss admitting that, yeah, my
guy underneath me did a horrible job with this investigation,
what is that? What is that going to show? So
it's it's Yuri is going to get a lot more today.

(15:12):
It's not going to be the end of his testimony,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh way, I think we're just building up.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
A ton of questions have come in. Son, Do you
want me to do some from instagram first? Or do
you want to go to the phones?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
This is on on Instagram first?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
All right, So the first one I have for you
is Nick.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Will you see if Nick knows anything about why evidence
was in plexiglass. Some of the evidence is shown in
the grocery store type bags where the uh, they have
to be cut open with the gloves. Other evidence like
John's shirt and his sweatshirt were shown in plexiglass. Does
that mean the jury gets to keep them after for
full viewing?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I haven't seen that before.
And when I was on when I was talking with
Vinnie from Court TV last night. He also said he's
never seen that before. My only My only guest could
potentially be that there's some pretty damning evidence on John's sweatshirt,
which would be the bitemarks from Chloe's teeth. And the

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sleeve doesn't show rips or anything like that from tailight,
but what it shows is puncture holes of something entering
and then also exiting. So they'll only be able to
see that in pictures and not actually physically on the sweatshirt.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
That's interesting, Yeah, because you would think there would be
rips on the sweatshirt as well.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, no rips, only only puncture holes.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Okay, why didn't Karen say to Jen while they were
looking for John?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I've actually thought this too. This is an interesting question.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
What happened when he got in the house, Jen, What
time did he leave, who was he with? How was
he acting in there? There's so many questions that she
didn't ask Jen McCabe or even the police officers when
she was first interviewed. I would have been asking a
million times, why didn't my man come home?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Jen?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, I mean, when I'd never found anybody dead that
I loved on a lawn so I don't know what
I would what type of questions I would be asking
at the time. I think I think a chaotic scene
like that, really you kind I think you have to
be in the moment and to just know how it is.
I mean, it's a good question to ask why she

(17:22):
didn't ask those, But I don't think I don't think
there's like a real answer for that, because everybody's going
to act differently in that type of situation. Some people
might handle it a lot better, yeah than others, you
know what I mean, So that that's something you would.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Just I don't fight that argument because I have said before,
and I say this all the time. We talk about everybody.
Everybody knows everybody all of a sudden is an extra Well,
why didn't erready do this when you got on scene?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Why didn't you know Karen say this?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
And as like everybody, we are all outsiders looking in
and we all feel like we could have done a
better job securing the area, and you don't know what
you're going to do and till you're you're actually in it.
I think that goes for both sides. Beth is in Providence,
Hi Bath, Good morning, Good morning, Beth, you're on with

(18:10):
Nick Rocco, Good morning, Go ahead and ask your question.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I said it last week, Nick, and I can't wait
to give you a hug when you finally figure it out.
I don't really know what kind of propels people who
are on the FKR side. It seems like instead of
actually showing evidence, you always just put up a like
a defense for like somebody who's like super insecure as

(18:35):
to why all this stuff makes sense. But as far
as the when they found him, I don't understand why
she said right where I left him. If she thought
he went in the house where she said he went
in the house, why wasn't she like going towards the door, Well,
I mean that's where he was.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That was a big part of URI's testimony in the
very beginning when Yuri was on with the prosecute. He's
in the cross now so he's speaking to Alan Jackson.
But Nick, So initially when prosecution started talking with Yuri,
we found out that the first thing Yuri Bukanik said
he heard from Karen during her testimony to him when

(19:15):
he interviewed her was he was right where I left him,
Like he never went in the house. He was right
where I left him when he got out of the car.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well, again there's no note, this is not a recorded interview.
And he also said that she said she dropped him
off on the lawn, So she dropped him off, meaning
he got out of the car. We know that he
had to have gotten out of the car, considering the
fact that he was found dead there. But I think
it's a play on words. I mean, we see the

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way that Uri has been trying to dodge dodge questions.
So again, there's no unless Karen takes the stand, there's
no way of proving Yuri to be a liar. But
at the same time, we don't know if those were
the exact words, right, because we don't have a transcript
of Karen from that night because there was no there's
no notes and there's no recording. Just like Jen McKay

(20:08):
and everybody else gets on the stand, they have to say, oh,
can I see my transcript to make sure I said
exactly those words. Karen unfortunately doesn't have that situation on
her hand.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Go ahead, Beth, I will also say that I work
in insurance, and your first statements, that's why your calls
are recorded. Your first statements are your most true, and
Karen's first statements are her most true. She's also stated.
She also stated in her documentary while she was doing
her hair she doesn't want to focus on the G
twenty seven because she knows when the twenty seven gets

(20:42):
explained and proven that it was done at six whatever,
that she doesn't want that to be the catalyst that
proves her guilt.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Okay, best, thank you for the call. Hey, Nick, I
think we know what side of the aisle best on well, so.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I can understand that, and I can and I can
say this about the two twenty seven. A lot of
people think that's a macro break, but it's really not
a MAKEO break situation. If say, if Jen didn't google
that at two twenty seven, that still doesn't explain John's injuries.
John's injuries to his arm into the back of his head,
his arm injuries are clearly from a dog. So whether

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Jen McCabe google that or not at two twenty seven,
that's not really the nail on the coffin for Karen Reid.
And the reason why she doesn't Karen doesn't want that
to be the MAKEO breaks. The reason I just explained
it don't. The way that this trial has gone is
if Jen didn't google it, Karen did it. But look
at all the other evidence. I mean, you have the
FBI ARCA experts confirmed John O'Keeffe was not struck by

(21:40):
a vehicle. You have the medical examiner. The medical examiner
undetermined death because this is not consistent with a vehicle
and pedestrian strike. So tail light does not shatter into
forty seven pieces. It's polycarbonate, It's one of the strongest
plastics known to man. It does not shattered off of

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an elbow. So even if Jen didn't google this at
two twenty seven, which I'm not saying she didn't, but
if she didn't, there's so much other stuff that proves
Karen's innocence aside from the two twenty seven, aside from
practice text messages. I mean, it just goes on and
on and on the list of reasonable doubt in this case.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I have fist fought myself with this information and whether
I wanted to mention it.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Because it's it's so gossipy that it's next level.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
But I have heard it this week now, I want
to say five times. So I just I have to
ask if you heard this rumor as well, because it's
you know where I'm going with this son.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
With the lung with the swinger thing. Do you know
what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, that was I mean, that's been out there for
a long.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Time, okay, and I have never heard this. There is
a rumor Forloren.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I don't know if it's true.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
It's true either, but we have these voicemails from Karen Kaya.
People are saying that Karen left that on John O'Keefe's
voicemail because the Albert home was a known swinger's home.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah. Yeah, I got no idea about that. Personally, my
belief as to why she's calling him a pervert would
be because no one knows how to get under your
skin more than your significant other. Okay, I'm sorry. And
John O'Keefe was a police officer in the sex crime Unit.
He puts away perverts, He puts away sexual predators, so

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to be called a pervert most likely would get under
his skin where he would call her back and be like,
are you calling me a pervert? You know what I'm saying.
So she was she was trying to get she was
trying to get him to answer her. She was being ignored.
She was a woman being ignored, which only angers them
more is their offense to women out there. But it's true.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Is there a world in which you can believe a
scenario that not on purpose but accidentally they got into
this argument Karen was so hammered drunk that he throws
his cocktail glass at the car. She's mad, she reverses,
she leaves, and she's so drunk. She gets home. She

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has no recollection that she hit them. She's calling them
because she doesn't even remember their exchange. She is that
drunk and she wakes up in the morning and she's like,
oh my god, maybe I did hit him.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Maybe I did him. Can you even get your mind
to that?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Or do you feel like the evidence and his injuries
and all that is strong enough to fight that?

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Absolutely not. I mean, in the last trial, you heard
Arka testify about the fact that they made a cannon
and shot glass at it at the tail light. They
put the tail light in the freezer to make it
the same temperature as Karen's vehicle would have been at
the time, and they shot glass at it to see
if that would have been a possibility that he threw
the cocktail glass at it, and nothing happened. You would

(25:04):
have to believe that Karen Reid was such a good
driver not only forward but in reverse reverse to only
strike this dude's elbow at twenty four miles per hour,
say two feet. It didn't happen. It just it did
not happen. It didn't happen. It did not happen.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
It just did not happen. All right, As always, I
just we're so appreciative. There's nobody better.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Especially if you're on the one side of this. Nick Rocco,
thank you for joining us. You're back in court. I'm
assuming earlier in the.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Week, not this week. I won't be there. I get
to my moving so I get too much going on.
But the following week after that, but I will be
paying close attention to it.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I know you will.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
You will join us next Friday at seven point thirty.
We appreciate you. Thank you for the call.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
See you guys later. There was a lot there. I
go back and forth. I'm like emotionally up.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Like you said it perfectly though, no matter what side
you you can spin it to kind of sue, yeah,
I could. We could do this simony and spin it
and be like, this is why this didn't happened on
this side, and this is why it didn't happen on that.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
And and I've you saying it and thinking it really
is true, like and people say it all the time.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You have a house full of cops who like.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
That's the way their brain works, and the train the
plan they devise, though.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Is to pick the body up and tossing in the morning,
walk outside, there's a bunch of cops on that street,
and then just drop the I don't believe that.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm sorry, I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I don't think you know, I'm on I'm on the
side of I don't think like she really is responsible.
But that one is wild. That's a wild. That's a
wild imagine seeing five people just picking up like with
a dead body.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Just watch the wire. McNulty's coming up with something better.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Come on, Just.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Saying, as always, if you have anything for Nick Rocco,
you can always message me at Ashley Feldman to ease
on the Ashley.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
He will join us again.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Next week Friday seven third. If you missed anything, this
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