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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake wake yoe, wake yo way everybody. Good morning, Happy Friday.
Cheers to the freaking weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We made it, we did.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm trying to feel like if I thought this week
paced well or not, I'm sick. I'm still a little losty.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
So yeah, I think it pays all for me because
I'm in excitement because I'm flying to Florida today.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
So the Porsche Cayenne also known on the streets as
a Subaru, is going to be ours very soon.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, but I'm having this weird thing about like leaving
it at these shady hotels because I'm driving it back
and I don't know where I'm going to be staying,
so like, is it going to get stolen?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're all bougie bougie hotel.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Because I don't know where I'm going to stop, and
there's certain parts of the like.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Ain't nobody stilling Porsches.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I wouldn't wish this upon anybody but him, but I
so desperately hope that he goes and he sits in
this vehicle and it smells like cigarette smoke and something
happens where there's like this whole thing. It's just not
as easy as just hopping in and driving off into
the sunset.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's my biggest fear of that I'm because I already
bought the car, is that I'm going to get into
the driver's seat and somebody had been ripping butts in
there for years.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, but but you're good. You could just tell him, hey, look,
take the call back. I'm good. Can I sign every
Florida Florida? You could do that really so much? Yeah, yeah,
you got You got a certain amount of time to
be able to be like, no, I don't want this car,
even with cigarette smoke. Even with cigarette smoke, if you
go there and the car doesn't look like anything that
was represented to you, yeah, you could easily tell him, no,
I don't want this, this is not it all, give

(01:31):
me more money off, all right? Fine.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's the tough part about cigarette smoke is like you
don't want the smell of cigarette smoke, but you want
the feeling of what Ben feels when he smokes one. Yeah,
you know, I do, Yeah, desperately do.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Tobacco is so relaxing.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sure, I don't know if it is. I mean I
ripped like a couple of puffs of a cig one time,
Like I don't know, I didn't feel.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I see people talk in a lizard d smoking cigarettes,
doing anything to be able to catch a few puffs.
I'm like, yeah, like it, y'all next to crackheads.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know what, foreign that's a good point. My grandfather
smoked so much. The doctor was like, you keep smoking,
We're gonna have to cut the hole in your throat.
And you mean like the commercials, He said, cut the hole.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
And with that being said, I want to say.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
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Speaker 5 (02:27):
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Speaker 1 (02:32):
By everybody, Good morning. I don't know if you're anything
like me, but you've come across this trending thing called
a trad wife, and you're like, what the hell is
a TRADWIF actually wrote it down on a posty because
I was like, what the hell is a trad wife?
But I had seen so many people making the little
comment about it. Well, I'm a tradwife. I'm a tradwife.

(02:55):
If you don't know what one is, I'm still learning
myself or maybe you consider yourself one six, one seven,
nine three one four five to join in the convo.
This saying trad wife has been trending in its easiest,
simplest terms, it's a traditional wife. This is a woman
who considers herself a trad wife, and this is what

(03:15):
she claims is the number one rule for all tradwives.
Number one rule as a trad wife. This is your
duty as a wife. A man's home is his castle,
so he should be treated as a king.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
He's working a stressful job, maybe working long hours, just
so he can provide for you and the family, so
he rightfully deserves peace. That being said, it's every wife's
duty to appreciate her man and all his hard work.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Show him how much you truly appreciate him. Okay, he
is your king and you are his queen. That is
your duty. If that's the duty, being a trad wife sucks.
It's very one sided.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't like it. It doesn't feel like a true partnership.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Now. Oh, like, listen, I think there's something to it.
We all want a little peace at the house, but
that's gotta go both ways.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it sounds like the piece is just a one
sided thing. Now, going back to the fifties, maybe this work.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Then.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I think society has completely changed and it's well bounced.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Cause back then was you know, the wife is staying
at home. He takes care of the crib. If you
handle the crib. I bring the money to supply whatever
we need to do, and I just come sit down,
get my feet rugged, get fed, we chill. I'll go
to bed, wake up the maximum and do the same thing.
You take care of the household.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I do not mean to offend when I say this,
because there are some women out here that that's the
goal for them to be a stay at home mom,
to be a stay at home wife, to trad wife.
It up that if that brings you joy, and that
brings you happiness, that's cool. Me Nope, that's not bringing
me joy. That's actually that's sucking the life about me.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I will say, Like in other cultures, trad life is
still a thing. Like Dominicans, I can tell you they're
still going back to traditionals and those men can do
whatever they want there. And like the wise, I complain,
but they're still like and they they're they're just adherent
to all the men.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
It doesn't sound fun.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Sounds spooky to me. Uh. And again, I want, I
do want my husband to feel like the man of
the house. There's no there's no like, I have no
qualms about that. You are the man of the house.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
For sure. They want't you let them.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
But I do think there needs to be a little
bit of a partnership here because her main thing is like,
my husband needs he's the king. He deserves peace. Bitch,
I deserve peace too. Okay, Uh, Mary is in Rhode Island, Mayor.
It's tough the trad wife thing.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
Oh it is, god golf. I just can't believe this
is a trend happening right now in this moment.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh, it's big.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
It's in this political climate that women are still right.
If you think that way, great, and that's what you
want to do. But I'm tired. I work full time,
I'm a mom.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I want my house.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
To be a castle too, and.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Right right, call me Cinderella because I definitely want to
feel that as well.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Yeah, here's the trad husband. Is that a trud I.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Can't listen, I can't pick not you know what's messed up? Though,
this is very messed up. If my husband was like
I want to quit my job and be like a
trad husband and stay at home dad, that my vagina
would shrivel, which is messed up. I don't want that either.
I don't want that either, truly though.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
No, I put you out in contributing to here and
we could build the castle together.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, let this be our kingdom. Mary, thanks for the call.
Uh Staph is in Chelmsford, Hey staff, good morning.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Had you heard about the trad wife's thing.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
I've never heard of it anymore, because you know what
I don't hear about traditional.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Men do tell go on.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
So it's like, okay, and I feel like a lot
of men are entitled now these days. They want women
to duel the whole nine while they're doing the bare minimum.
And I can understand if there's like these real hard
working men and they're paying all the bills and you're
staying home and you're taking care of the kids. But like, nowadays,
where do you even see that? Like I can understand
men who are probably like in their late thirties that

(07:07):
that probably still exists. But I'm twenty five years old,
I could, I could probably maybe I'm looking in the
wrong areas, but I do not see traditional men nowadays.
They just want to feel entitled. And I'm working just
as much as all as they are. I'm just as
tired as they are. Where's my treatment? Where's me being
treated as a queen? You want to be a king,
where's my queen treatment?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, listen stuff I do. They're out there and thank
you for the call. I think a lot of women
that listen to this show sometimes give off like broken
and hurt and you guys have been through things, so
have I. But they're out there, and I just refuse
to not say that. There is another side to this

(07:48):
where I do believe, like I married a great man
and you can find that too. They're out there. It
might be hard to find, Yeah, but there isn't a
decide to this. They're not all bad.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I also think like, if you have a bad experience
with one dude, you should like change your pattern for
the other one. I think some girls go back to
the same consistency that they've always known, expecting a different.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And that makes me sad because stuff's like guys want
meet out here doing the whole nine, when they're doing
the bare minimum. I think eventually she's just twenty five.
Eventually she'll find somebody that will meet here in the middle.
But I do feel like a lot of the women
sometimes and we have these topics. They called him.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
They're hurt coming from a place right, yep.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Melissa is in PVTY Hey, Yliss, Hello, are you a
trad wife? No? I am not. What do you how
do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You hadn't got This is crazy because this is a
big thing, and I'm shocked that we haven't had somebody
call in being like I'm a trad wife and I
love it.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
Yeah, I wasn't going to give my two cents, but
I was listening. As soon as you put up that
lady saying her like the number one rule, I was like,
all right, I gotta call in now. But I just
wanted to say I just wanted to say to go
off of like what you were saying too about how
there are good men out there and I recently just
found one, and like I'm twenty six now, so going

(09:09):
like after all of these just you know, relationships that
didn't work and whatnot, and dealing with all these horrible men,
there are good men out there, and there are men
that will treat you the way that you deserve to
be treated. You just have to be patient and wait
for it. But but yeah, I totally agree with the
sense of treating your man like a king. And you know,

(09:31):
I totally agree with all that, but if it's reciprocated.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Agreed, I like. I like that narrative. And you know what, mollist.
What sounds to me is you were messing with boys
and you found yourself a man, which is they're out there.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's nice exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, and listen again, I'm not I'm not saying that
to not treat your to your significant other like they're
a king or a queen. But again I'm including the
queen in there. Let we both have to we gotta
we gotta find a middle ground. I want to tried
wife though, I want to hear I'm can we play
another song stans if we can get six one seven
nine three one one nine four five. Don't be shy

(10:05):
trad wives. I know you're out there. You're probably out
running some errands for the house, and that's cool. Six
one seven nine three one one nine four five. If
you consider yourself a traditional wife and you are just
running the kingdom palm capable. Hi, everybody, we're talking about
being a trad wife. It's a it's a trending thing
on social media. I had heard it referenced a few times.

(10:29):
What the hell is this? So we were doing a
little bit more digging today. Essentially, in it's in its
simplest forms, it is a traditional wife. It is a
stay at home mom, a stay at home wife who
you know, does all of the household things while big
Daddy goes out and makes the money. If it if
it's for you, that's cool. I'm not throwing any shade,

(10:49):
but not for big momm not for me, but it
is for Becky and Cambridge back. Good morning, babe, Hi,
hell are you good? I said, listen, I need me.
I need to talk to a traditional wife because it
brings happiness to some. You, in fact, are a tried
away Now had you heard the term before?

Speaker 10 (11:07):
No, not till this morning.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Okay, So talk to me stay at home mom, stay
at home wife, Like, what does your day to day
look like?

Speaker 10 (11:16):
Well, I recently started working part time in the morning
because my children have not gotten older. Okay, So when
they were younger, you know, I was a say at
home mom. I took care of the house. I did
everything for my husband and my children. You went out,
he paid all the bills. He's a wonderful father. Coach
the kids teams, so it brought me joy.

Speaker 11 (11:38):
It's not.

Speaker 10 (11:39):
It's one of those things. He has to be the
right man. He has to be the man that makes
you feel good about your role in life.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And what about you? Did you ever feel like lost
in that? Did you ever feel like you didn't have
an identity in that? Like you never had anything for
yourself that you were constantly just giving to everybody else?
Or was that enough for you?

Speaker 10 (12:00):
No, because I did have my own identity as well,
which was what you didn't. I was still my own person.
I f had my friends, and it.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Wasn't and you weren't like you got you got out
of the house and did your own things as well
by yourself.

Speaker 11 (12:15):
Of course.

Speaker 10 (12:15):
Yeah. I always went to mom's groups. We have a
lot of local moms groups in Cambridge, okay, where you
can meet with other moms and it's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Wonderful Okay. Well, and like I said, beg for it
is it is for some people. It's it's like I'm
not the type that could do it. But talking to you, like,
it's not like as if you're calling me being like
I hated it and I regret staying at home. All
of those years like you.

Speaker 10 (12:39):
Oh no, I love it, like it was great.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
I got to spend so much time with my children.
You didn't have to worry about daycare not that. Yeah,
I didn't have to worry about any expenses.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah. I Did you ever have a moment where you
were how many kids you got?

Speaker 10 (12:55):
I have four?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Did you? Jesus? Did you ever have a moment where
everybody was crying and going crazy and you just were like,
get me the hell out of here? Because I have
those daily and I only have two. So I didn't.
I just didn't know.

Speaker 10 (13:07):
I mean, yeah, it's usually by like kind of the
end of the day when he's coming home, and then
he comes home and you know, he takes it on.
Did he he helped out?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (13:17):
He did?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, So would you do the dinners and stuff too?
Or would he help cook?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
You would.

Speaker 10 (13:22):
I usually did that because he'd be out playing with
the kids and like trying to give me a personal break,
and I love cooking, so it was like my time.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
All right, Becky, Well thank you for that. I mean,
listen the way back he's describing it. It still doesn't
sound something for me.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But she's probably the closest you're going to get to
the u of how it's supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yes, I don't like it. I don't think I could
be the person who wants to be like that. You know,
I'm so used to that being with my wife who's
into her into like just her work and everything like that.
To have a traditional wife like that, right, but that's
all you know that.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's also on the flip these women who want to
just stay home because they're lazy and they don't want
to do nothing.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I've seen there's people create content around that.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yes, like I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
There's a girl that I follow that she's married, she's
a trophy wef. She doesn't have a job, she has
they don't even have kids. She's like, this is what
I do all day while my husband works and she
goes and she's So.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's the opposite side because yes, some guys want the
traditional wife, but they kind of using it to you know,
kind of just have somebody to watch the kids. They
don't talk to you, they don't show you no love.
This guy, the last example sounded like the perfect gentleman,
right Yeah. And then on the other side there's the
wives who were just like bro I don't want to work,
Just go make money. Give me a card. I can
go shop in do whatever I want and just chill.

(14:35):
Might even have a nanny if they have kids, right
and she's just chilling.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I think we can all wrap our head around a
stay at home mom because again, like that, that daycare,
all those things they cost. So if you're somebody who
has that in you, that you can do it. Like again,
I love my kids more than anything on this planet,
but I need this time outside of like the house,
because you can only play like zombie so many times

(15:01):
before you do go crazy. But stay at home wife
with nothing like that's a special breed because what are
you doing?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It just sounds and just looking out the window and
kids are done and folding.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's like, oh, I can't say it like that. Well, hey,
that's at all.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
How many times can you go to home goods and
get something different every day? If it's every Wednesday? I cool?

Speaker 12 (15:32):
How do you know that.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's what drops the new goods every Wednesday? Foreign is
lying he's a little trophy wife.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
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Speaker 1 (15:51):
Hi everybody, and morning listen. I will say, we have
to admit when we're wrong.

Speaker 11 (15:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I don't know necessarily if we are taking the heat
for this, but I was told by a source that
at some point this year Michelle Obama and Barack Obama
were going to announce their breakup.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
But technically we're not wrong yet, right maybe?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Well are you though?

Speaker 11 (16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Because he episodes those almost came out, which was a
little bit ago. He was posting her life crazy. She
didn't say nothing, but what.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
If the news got out sooner than they wanted and
they couldn't control the whole story, So now they're just yeah, Well, it.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Did feel like Ali gruth, poorne that I hadn't seen him,
like he was posting her for ever, like the air
that I breathe, Happy birthday baby, all this stuff. But listen,
you're right, I mean, we still have until the end
of the year. That that's what it was. After the election,
to the end of the year they were an announce
they were together. But she is doing like everything in
her power everything to make it clear that they are

(16:52):
still together, including addressing why she skipped the inauguration.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
My decision to skip the anuration, you know what people
don't realize from my decision to make choices at the
beginning of this year that suited me were met with
such ridicule and criticism, like people couldn't believe that I
was saying no for any other reason that they had
to assume that my marriage was falling right while I'm

(17:18):
here really trying to own my life and intentionally practice making.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
The choice that was right for me.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
And it took everything in my power to not do
the thing that was right or that was that was
perceived as right, but do the thing that was right
for me.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
She also had an interview where she was like, Yo,
it was really hard to being married to this guy.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Okay, if things are completely fine with them and people
talking about this, why not do an interview together?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Just shut everybody, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Maybe they have one of those relationships where maybe they're
Hillary and.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Bill, which we all know Hill and Billing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Really again, the interview I heard of her talking about
it and how digested it and took that in. It's
like there was a time that things got rough, and
I can imagine there was a time where it was like, Okay,
what is really do I need to just go. I
think she was talking about finding herself or being her
own woman, and I was like, oh, so there is
a little validity to kind of the room was that

(18:13):
y'all were in a rocky patch. But then she brought
it back back then was like, listen, this is my husband.
I love him to death. All of these things, and
then they continue to post pictures. Yeah, there ain't no
divorce an interview. We're fine.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Maybe there's no divorce coming because they've agreed that they'll
never get a divorce, but that they may date separately
in life, like with Jennifer Aniston, you know.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
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Speaker 1 (18:46):
Hi, everybody, good morning. We are joined by our guy,
the one and only Nick Rocco. Week one in the books, Ish,
how are we feeling, Nick?

Speaker 11 (18:56):
I think it's going good. You know, it's to a
good start. You got a lot of people not remembering
what they said the first time, which Alan Jackson's doing
a great job at pointing out.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I think we can kind of surmise in just
a couple of days that we've been back in Core
in detam that Alan Jackson's role here is certainly to
poke holes to try to make it feel like the
Commonwealth is kind of pushing these witnesses a type of way.
And I thought Alan did an amazing job with Kerrie
Roberts and just trying to show the jury like, yes,

(19:31):
you know, I'm sure she's remembering some things accurately, but
clearly she's not remembering all.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Right.

Speaker 11 (19:40):
So in the first trial, you got to remember, she
was never cross examined. She only got questioned by Adam
Lalley and then the defense team just let her go.
So this time around, she didn't really know what to
expect because she didn't get to go through it the
first time. So the fact that she admitted on the
stand that she lied to the Grand Jerry, that's perjury.

(20:02):
That's that's like jail time. But obviously there's gonna be
no punishment. But the fact that she admitted that is
huge because that just wipes her credibility away.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, because I actually did think the first day her
I thought her testimony was pretty impactful, you know, like
the fact that she got the five am call from
Karen saying John's dead, and you know, she's kind of
walking us through that the early morning hours of that
day and what it looked like. But regardless, you know,

(20:32):
you wonder if you're in the jury, you listen to
all that, and then you find out that she said
she heard with her own two years that Karen had
asked for Jennifer McCabe to google whatever it was, how
long dying the cold or hypothermia, And she said, well, yeah,
I said that, but I didn't actually hear her. But
I know she did it, but I didn't hear her
say it.

Speaker 11 (20:52):
She was also she also mentioned that she was told things,
and when you testify, it's supposed to be from your
point of view what you've seen, what you've heard, not
what others told you or what came off of a timeline.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Either.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
We were chatting about how you know her and Jennifer
McCabe made this timeline, So she went over to Jen
McCabe's house and they kind of wrote down, well, okay,
at six oh one, let's just we'll make this part
up a like at six oh one, I spoke to
Joey and then Jen would say, well, at six' TEN
i spoke To john and he said, this and they
made this whole timeline of the two of them and

(21:29):
both of their, experiences like you were, saying not just
their individual. Experience SO i think she was kind of
drawing from. That and the bottom line is the question
was did you Hear karen say? It and the answer
was unequivocally, no she did not hear her say?

Speaker 11 (21:43):
It, right technically, NO i think was the oh no
when they when he asked if it was a, lie
she said technically, technically, well it's either a yes or.
NO i mean you didn't, lie, right.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah SO i, mean, again that's one of those weird
things because it's like, listen, like does does she think? Yeah,
like you, know she probably THINKS i was, Told so
that MEANS i. Know but, again the question was did
you hear? It could you actually hear? It Before carrie
was on the, stand we had the paramedic who was on. Scene,

(22:18):
NOW i don't know about, you and obviously you, know
we know where you stand on. It he said in
the first round he heard her SAY i hit. HIM
i hit him twice hers In, karen and then he
said this next round that he heard her say it three.
TIMES i was kind of on the side Of, hey
the man said he heard, it whether it was two
times or three. Times but do you think something like

(22:39):
that does weigh on a jury that he's changing the
amount of times he Heard karen say.

Speaker 11 (22:44):
It, SO i, MEAN i think it's a, deal BUT
i don't think it's a huge. DEAL i think what
is more important about what he was saying was the
fact that he has a better memory now than he
did when it first, happened and when he did last
year when he and Then Alan jackson asked him a
question about a phone call he had three weeks, ago

(23:05):
and he, SAID i didn't, remember, Right, yeah so how
do You how is your memory better? Now but you
don't even remember what you? Did you know yesterday or
two days, Ago but you want us to remember that
all of a, sudden now you remember it three times
versus two. Times there was a, jacket now there's no.
Jacket so it's like his credibility is shot in a way,
too because you're coming up with more things that you

(23:27):
never said before because you didn't, remember but, now all
of a, sudden you remember.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
IT i can't even imagine that type of. Pressure i'm
just gonna go ahead and, say because, listen it's hard
enough for me To someone will, say, oh what would
you guys just talk? About i'm, LIKE i don't. Know
and then you get put on that stand and you,
know all lies around. You there's thousands of people watching
you on a live. Stream we're all desperate to think
that we can listen and find out what exactly. HAPPENED

(23:51):
i understand how it could be certainly nerve, wracking BUT
i think with, Him Alan jackson was really trying to prove, Like,
okay you met with you met The commonwealth three weeks,
ago you met with them a week, ago you met
with them a day a day, ago what did you talk?
About did you see Any you, know you're almost trying
to lead us to believe that they are kind of
coercing him and pushing him in a certain, direction.

Speaker 11 (24:13):
RIGHT i mean they're leading questions for, Sure but at
the same, time if you tell them the, truth it doesn't. Change, Right,
so no matter what, happened even if you do potentially
forget something on a phone, call you know you're going
into this trial knowing that you're going to have to,
Testify so you're not really going to forget a lot
of stuff about this because you're you're preparing yourself for.

(24:34):
It you know you're going to get a cross. Examination you,
know you know you're gonna Get you're gonna be on
a direct By Hank. Brennan Hank brennan is obviously going
over this stuff with. Them so when you Like kerry for,
example you know after she got caught, line she didn't
recall anything else after, That she just she froze.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Up she forgot.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
Everything but one THING i wanted to talk about With
Kerry robinson is in The google of, hypothermia they claim
that happened When karen was in the back seat of
the police cruise atte and originally they said it was
six twenty three and six twenty four was When jennifer
McCabe googled hoslong to dying Cold. Well one of the

(25:13):
time stamps yesterday Shows karen getting put in the vehicle
at six twenty six. Am so if she got put
in at six twenty six, am why are The google
searchers at six twenty three and six twenty. Four because
the story is Is karen asked her to do that
when she was in the.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Car right, interesting if you had to say from this
week so, far what is your big, highlight what sticks
out the most to? You because we also Had peggy,
O'keef john's mother who took the stand and that was just.
NOW i, Know alan didn't have, anything AND i thought
that was very respectful of him given the. Circumstances but you,

(25:49):
know her TESTIMONY i feel like had to tug at
the heartstrings of every single JUR i, mean it's just
the things that that woman have has been. Through no
mother should have to, feel you. Know and she kind
of talked about the moment in the hospital that stood
out to me When karen was yelling at her peg
is he?

Speaker 13 (26:08):
Dead is he?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Dead do you, think like whose testimony do you think
this week stuck out the?

Speaker 11 (26:13):
MOST i, MEAN i feel horrible for you, know the o'key,
family the parents having to lose two. CHILDREN i couldn't imagine.
THAT i believe the only reason why she was put
up there was for exactly what you, said was to
tug at the hearts of the jury to get a
little bit of. Sympathy one QUESTION i would have asked

(26:35):
her maybe was if you Knew john was Dating, karen
why would your first question be like why is she?
Here but other than. THAT i, MEAN i don't think
it really brought any spects or evidence That karen redid
anything by having her. Testify BUT i would say the biggest,
MOMENT i would say as of right, now is the
fact that you just had a witness admit to lying

(26:57):
to the grand. Jury, Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
That's certainly that stood out, because LIKE i, SAID I
i kind of thought day one That carrie's testimony was
pretty impactful and, meaningful you, know kind of walking us
through for, her what those first few hours looked, like
What karen's demeanor, was all of those. Things but then
to find out that there was this timeline and That
jennifer McCabe was texting people in a group chat saying

(27:21):
she's telling. Everything you, know THAT'S i just think that
is why this.

Speaker 11 (27:27):
Case we did did know that from the first we
DID i, know you know what.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Somebody said that we knew that from the first. TIME
i did. NOT i did not know that there was
a text message sent From jennifer mccab to a group
chat being like she's telling. EVERYTHING i did not know.

Speaker 11 (27:39):
That, WELL i don't know if you've, seen but you,
know they called they Called Kerry robis The talker Because
Jen jen, said they're telling them Every she's telling. Everything
she she's, talking she's doing. It she's doing a good.
Job so, everyone you, know the running story, was, well what's?
Everything what was she telling? Her and obviously it's it's
the fact that they came up with a timeline and

(27:59):
she sticking to the timeline of what they put. Together
so their stories are the.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Same, CRAZY i, mean that's, why again and again and,
AGAIN i always say this case sticks out so much
because there's just so many things on both. Sides, Nick
you're back in court On. Monday, yep, Okay so as,
always this is your. Spot. Now we will talk to
you Next. Friday after again one. Week how are you.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
Feeling i'm feeling. Good the defense team's feeling good so.
Far it's off to a good. Start so we'll see
what What Hank brennan has to offer next.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Week all, Right, nick as, always we appreciate, you thanks
for checking.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
In you got.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
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(29:11):
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there but you're, like, so what's, up how are? You
what's your testosterone? Levels CAN i get you some some blue.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
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AND i talked about it on the air a lot
THAT i think a lot of guys feeluncomfortable talk. About
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know it's there's a lot of. It he gave some
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like it's the Best i've never been. More, ANYWAYS i

(29:51):
won't get into. That but not only is the man obsessed,
now but he's micro dosing cialis, like what's?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
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it's good for a multiple, things blood, flow it's good for,
fitness and also it's great for spontaneous, sex so you
don't have to plan it, Out like SHOULD i be doing?
That probably that would want, To BUT i don't have
sex like through all throughout the, week SO i can
kind of forecast when it's gonna. Happen But justin probably
has sex more often THAN i, do so he's in

(30:20):
the system in case he ever needs to go daily dose.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
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Speaker 2 (30:26):
Dosing he you get credit for putting.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
PEOPLE i don't at all know you, Should, NO i
just THINK i. Do just feel good knowing that guy's
going to keep that spark.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
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Yes do you know nothing made he has made more
sense to?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Us do you know that there was somebody here That
i've worked with for a long time THAT i supply
this man back in the day here from time to, time, like,
hey CAN i get one of those? Pills really going
back like ten? Years not gonna say, who but if
you think they're still, here, Yeah.

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Speaker 1 (31:10):
Five hi, babes good. Morning we're checking in on you
six one seven nine three one four. Five kathy is
in Southe, kathy how are we?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Doing?

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Hi ashley with to.

Speaker 14 (31:26):
EASE i love you guys so.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Much Oh, kathy we love you. Too thanks for. Listening
you have a you have a story to tell us
about your ex.

Speaker 14 (31:34):
HUSBAND i have a crazy story to share with the
world in you, guys so tell. Us SO i was
with my ex husband four fifteen. Years we have three children.
Together we met when we started deed and we were
like in our early, twenties like it was my. Spaceties.

Speaker 13 (31:50):
Wow so.

Speaker 14 (31:52):
We, had you, know a very like up and down.
RELATIONSHIP a lot of a lot of damage was, done
a lot of. Cheap and it's funny That farman had said,
yesterday you, know people will treat you the way you
allow them.

Speaker 11 (32:05):
To it's so.

Speaker 14 (32:06):
True it's so.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
TRUE i allowed so.

Speaker 14 (32:10):
Much, anyways that's neithergin of. Them so about a year
and a half ago he had gotten back into the
Boiler Makers union and with this, job it's like three months,
on three months, off so you're away for three months
and they could send you like, anywhere so he would
go to Like, Ohio, Missouri, pennsylvania stuff like. That so

(32:32):
HE i was, like wherever you've been saying while you're out,
There and he told me that him and a coworker
was here in the cost of an, airbnb And i'm, like,
oh that's it's not that's. Good so come to find
out that's not what they were. Doing he had rented.
It so What so this is First i've seen an
app on his. Phone and the app was like women

(32:54):
that are incocerated doing time that are looking for somebody
to write Them Jesus.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
CHRIST i was going there.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
To be LIKE i saw this little app tender.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Not like.

Speaker 10 (33:09):
Lot.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Girl SO i was, like what is this?

Speaker 14 (33:12):
App like what what? Is FIRST i deleted it and
didn't say anything BECAUSE i was, like you, Know i'm
trying to pick my. Battles i'm trying not to be
Like i'm trying to like drop him and knock be
on him.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Left that's not even a, battle that's a. War but,
okay good for. You you're like love is love, fighting.

Speaker 14 (33:31):
Right so the app is back on the phone And i'm,
like what is this? App what is this? App and
he's telling me it's, nothing it's. Nothing, well come to
find out he was writing this. Girl they stopped his.
Relationship he had rented a three bedroom apartment for her
and her children to share out thea when she got,
out and then he sent me divorce. Papers this was

(33:56):
a year and a half. Ago this was like a
year and a half. Ago but the TIME i was
dealing with LIKE i had just lost my oldest daughter
to substance. Abews, okay, Yeah LIKE i had a big
surgery coming up that literally almost took my. Life LIKE
i was in the hospital for three. Months what was
supposed to be four to six weeks of downtime turned

(34:16):
into four to six, months and then like money ran.
Out so now here we are fast forward all the.
Time we haven't seen or heard from this man in
over a year or at least a. Year it's been
almost a year, now not over a, year but almost
a year. Now he doesn't even my oldest child has
her own, Phone, like he doesn't even call, her a text,

(34:37):
her doesn't respond to her At christmas? Time nothing has
he with the.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Lady are they living In, missouri.

Speaker 14 (34:46):
And they're like posting their happy little photos all Over
facebook and And i'm just. Looking i'm, like, well and
then they both blocked, me SO i can't see. Anymore
BUT i still have my, ways, honey you do.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Pass, hey, LISTEN i need to know what was her?
Crime like what we're always talking?

Speaker 14 (35:04):
About what WAS i don't know what her would you
say what her chod was or?

Speaker 13 (35:10):
Whatever like what?

Speaker 8 (35:11):
WAS i don't?

Speaker 14 (35:12):
Know she hasn't had many conversations with, Me LIKE.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I was gonna, say The google, machine let's let's get
to the bottom of. That we'll do it for.

Speaker 13 (35:22):
You oh.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Wow, honestly the kid part is pissing me. OFF i,
mean you, know you're you're a grown, woman and it
sucks and you'll figure it. Out but to not reach
out to his kids.

Speaker 14 (35:31):
Like, yeah and you know, what and at first Like
i'm not gonna, lie really was really. Hurt, yes we
have so many years together and all these, kids And i'm,
LIKE i can't believe, This, like but Now i'm over.
It and, honestly if he's, Happy i'm happy for. Him
but our six year old son especially is like upsest
with his sog like, upsest and he just every single day,

(35:54):
faithfully LIKE i miss MY i miss, DADDY i miss,
daddy AND i just, SAY i, know, buddy and you know,
what wherever he, IS i know he misses you. TOO
i would never bad mouth him to my. Kids that
would be not. OKAY i would never do. That they
love him so much AND i know that he loves.
THEM i think he might be struggling WITH i think
he might have fallen back into his old, waves but
also with this, chick like you, know like he's any

(36:17):
free time he does have that he can get on
social media or. WHATEVER i notice he's like writing messages to.
Her and that's When i'm, LIKE i sat not feel
really too bad anymore about his issues that, well you
know what.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Hurts me about, it CAAs is you mentioned that she
has kids, Too so now here he is with kids
of his, own but he's playing house In missouri with
the jail lady and her kids and neglecting his.

Speaker 14 (36:41):
Own well here's the, thing, Right, like so he gets
this big apartment for like her and her, kids BUT
i have not, once not one, photo and she posts
pictures of her and, him and they supposedly got married like.
This supposedly they did so she but not one picture
of her and her. KIDS i don't even think she
has her kids to be really, honest if we want

(37:03):
to get really.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, WELL i mean depending on the, Crime, hey do
you allow does his family reach out to you and
SAY i want to see the? Grandkids like you know
WHAT i? Mean?

Speaker 14 (37:15):
No and his mother AND i used to be really
close and her AND i had a fallen out and that's,
Fine but she doesn't even attempt to see my, children her,
grandkids like at. All she isn't even. Attempted that's so weirdn't.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Know it's a. Shame it is a. Shame how old
are the? Kids you? SAID i know you mentioned, six.

Speaker 14 (37:32):
But, yeah So Sun matthew is, Twelve mackenzie's, ten And TJ's.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Six oh, well, governments that's, awful but that, Wow But,
kath you're not. Lying that is a legit lifetime movie right.

Speaker 14 (37:47):
There it really is like it's, danity it's like crazy
and this girl is like literally think, that like she
got the greatest thing on. Earth And i'm like, listen
like you know WHAT i mean and Don't and then
she tried to come for me and my, kids And i'm.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Like ca there is no way she thinks she got
the greatest man on the planet when he doesn't even
he's a father and he doesn't fother the ones that by.

Speaker 14 (38:11):
A man that doesn't even take care of his. Children,
yeah volumes for the type of person you.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
WANT i, know, WELL i KNOW i don't need to
ask this BECAUSE i feel like you would have said.
It but he's clearly not helping. Financially.

Speaker 14 (38:25):
Correct, no not even a little, bit o man, Caath i'm.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Sorry, uh if you want us to still pay for,
it and if you want us to get to the
bottom of, it we'll find out her crime that we
could do that for. You so you just head on
the line. There, yeah don't go.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Anywhere the best thing about it is that the, guy
the guy has a. Type he was seeking out a.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Car imagine being left full. Convict that's like all these
other things That i've said before that would hurt, me
and that would be that.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Would send me seriously like survive That like he wants a,
battie like a true. One oh my, god if you're on,
hold don't go. Anywhere six one seven nine three one
one nine four five six one seven nine three one
one nine four five how the hell are? YOU i
know you're better Than. Kathy what's going?

Speaker 6 (39:16):
On?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Stop stop your arm one today chilling and vibe and
like this man thinks he has something over. Here you're
not cool if you just copy for, it like you
just share at. Him it's not.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Cool hoorn's.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Hippin that's. That that is my.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Life santi's in the kitchen With, Joanne, like have you
seen my Latest? Instagram it's a.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Movie, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Sicko by the, way we. Tried We kathy didn't have
much infoto gains because you already KNOW i was gonna
report to you guys what this woman's crime. Was but
she had.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Nothing she had just married. Her she had like the
chicks marry name.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
If that is. Me i'm going To missouri And I'M
i will find out the WOMAN'S cvs that she goes.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
TOO i have to know the.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Answer it's Been, anyways we. Digress we're moving. On let's
check in With gwen In Fall. River, gwen who's? Pregnant,
hi my.

Speaker 13 (40:12):
Cousin, oh this is, exciting, Right uh, yeah BUT i
found out THAT i was. Pregnant baby boy is coming In.
MAY i note THAT i was pregnant In september of last,
year around my birthday, ish like the end Of, september
and me and my fiance went out to eat one

(40:33):
day and this was almost Around, thanksgiving so we are,
like you, know a couple of more, months you, know being.
Pregnant whatever our whole family.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Knows at this.

Speaker 13 (40:43):
Point mind. You my cousin's boyfriend is my fiance's best.
Friend we all went to school together minus my.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
Cousin, okay so we all have a relationship like, me.

Speaker 13 (40:55):
My fiance and his best. Friend we're basically all best
friends built in.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
One you.

Speaker 13 (40:59):
Know there's no secrets to be kept, anything, like he'll
tell us anything.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Like that's what you.

Speaker 13 (41:06):
Know we love about.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Him he's very, open.

Speaker 13 (41:08):
He's very, honest and he couldn't obviously keep a secret
from my, fiance and my fiance couldn't keep that secret from.
Me so one day we were at a, restaurant me
and my, fiance we went out to eat and my
fiance was, LIKE i need to tell you something AND
i was like, What like what's the? Matter LIKE i

(41:28):
was just like freaking, out like what are you keeping from?

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Me you?

Speaker 13 (41:31):
Know and he was, like your cousin is pregnant AND
i literally looked at him in shock BECAUSE i told
them when we were like literally just, Pregnant like we
were so, excited.

Speaker 9 (41:45):
And they were the first people that we.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Told, OKAY i can hear that there's like a little
bit of anger in your voice about the fact that
she hasn't. Told there could be there could be a
magnitude of reasons why she's not telling. You maybe she
miscarried and she wants to keep it to herself until
she feels. SAFE i don't know.

Speaker 13 (42:03):
Has she has a six year old, son and that's
my god. Son so that's Why i'm kind of upset
is because me and her have always had a relationship growing, Up,
gwen and we've always told each other.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Everything When, gwen.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
You're making this about, yourself it's really not about. You
clearly there's a reason why she's holding back that, information
and maybe at some point she's gonna tell, you but
don't internalize it is making about.

Speaker 13 (42:26):
You yeah, no, no that's Not, no that's not What
i'm like referring. To but the only thing Why i'm
upset is his whole family. Knows, okay his whole family,
knows And i'm, like towards the end of. Pregnancy so
she's only three, months three months like after, me so

(42:49):
she's clearly half almost halfway, Too so, like what's the big?
Secret you? KNOW i want to so? Bad so other
quick there's another quick story going. On we had to
go to like a birthday party and it was about her,
fiance her boyfriend's. Brother it was his birthday. Party we

(43:13):
were all, together and she gave me such a think
guy WHEN i walked in and didn't talk for the.

Speaker 7 (43:20):
Whole, Party so OBVIOUSLY i.

Speaker 13 (43:22):
DIDN'T i didn't say anything because Obviously i'm upset because
she didn't tell her.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Family maybe she doesn't like. Snitches, YEAH.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
I wasn't.

Speaker 13 (43:33):
GONNA i, MEAN i JUST i wanted her to tell
me at least because, NO i told you something like
that's so, important.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
You, KNOW i, mean, Listen i'll be honest with. YOU
i don't know what her history. IS i don't know
why she's not. Telling BUT i didn't tell some people
in my family THAT i was pregnant UNTIL i was
six months Six so LIKE i, think to each their,
own we don't, know we don't know what's going on with.
Her BUT i To santi point like it like that
baby could could come on, out and she may. Not

(44:04):
she still may not have told you that her timeline
is her. Timeline you can you can't let it bother
you and get in your head because guess, What you're
about to have a baby and you're they're already. Stressed So.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Gwen is coming from you shared something important with. Her
but you, know in life, going we got to stop
putting expectations of what other people should act the way we.
Do you act the way you, do and let her
do her. Thing if she doesn't want to say, anything
it's up to. HER i don't think you should go
tell the family if she doesn't want. To she has
a reason why she hasn't said. Anything you don't know.

Speaker 13 (44:33):
It oh, No LIKE i, know Like I'M i was
just speechless at the point where like you, know like
how you, said LIKE i told her in the, Beginning
we've always had a relationship and then just for her
not to tell you, know it's Like i'm finding different
things out from different, people.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Right, No AND i know that's hurtful for, sure especially,
because Like baren, said you confided in. Her BUT i
think concentrate on your, pregnancy getting everything. Ready is this
your first? Baby?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Yes this is so.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Exciting congrats. Girl you're not gonna have time to think
about anything else in a month or, so so just
just you, know gear up for the baby because life
is about to. Change don't worry about your.

Speaker 14 (45:12):
Cousin, yeah all, right all, right you're.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Welcome good.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Luck something happened between them because she's.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Pregnant one life like, that, though that expect. You BECAUSE
i did this for, you you should do the same.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Thing the way life.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Works you might confide in me and, cool thank, you
BUT i might not want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
It and and like females were, different like it would
hurt you, know like it would hurt me IF i
found out Like jody kept something from.

Speaker 13 (45:39):
Me it.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Would BUT i also would say something.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
To jody for, sure, Correct like you should go to
see what's?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Up what DID i? Do why are you? Upset LIKE
i want to support you through this? Pregnancy why are
you not telling whatever the case may, BE i wouldn't
LIKE i, wouldn't you, Know and, like what's.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Up with that?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Bump, yeahnant you have a basketball thing going, on and
you can't say that's people, anymore you, know you. Can't
that's that's a roll of The. Dice it's a roll
of The Dice.

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Sat, Morning boston's number one for hip hop jam in
ninety four.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Five it's going to do it For ross for getting
enough out of, Here Friday feeld sign to get some shout.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Out shout out To Jeff, Blue i'll see you in
about an hour and a. Half, yeah shout out to
And Porsche.

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Speaker 12 (46:30):
Porsche, yeah it's A porsche and they will correct, you
but it is spelled with AN. E. Correct, yeah but It's,
german so it P O R S s c H. E,
yeah but it's pronounced.

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coop but it's pronowned coupe.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Coopee.

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Wow for of all the.

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Cars in the.

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No he's, new he's giving kiss one. Away is of
all the cars he's, had is this?

Speaker 6 (46:57):
It?

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Next you know WHAT i? Mean anything after that would
be A. Lamborghini so and he can't go back to
Like alexis or any of The Emma colls he was driving. Before,
nah posha is? It good? Job, congrats thank.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
You all, right, fore are we in the club?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Tonight, yes we are.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
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