NOT GUILTY!

The case that had the country on the edge of our seats finally comes to an end

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wait good, wake yo wad.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Mister Foreman and dock at number twenty two eight two
c R one one seven zero zero one Murder in
the second degree. Let's say you is the defendant at
the bar, guilty or not guilty, not guilty?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Do you all of you agree?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Zero zero two.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Let's say is the defendant at the bar not guilty
or guilty?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Not you not guilty or guilty?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Vote that charge you any lesser included charge? Thank you?
Specifically number five operating under the influence of liquor by
operating a motor vehicle.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
The blood alcohol level of point oh eight or greater. Correct.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So say you, mister formant.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Guilty, So say you ally.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Zero zero three. Let's say is the defendant at the
bar leading the scene after accident resulting in tests defendant
not guilty or guilty, So say you, mister formant. So
say you all?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh my god, the birth of my second child or this?

Speaker 5 (00:58):
I don't know because I'm celebrating both. It's like Christmas morning, bitch.
We're not even supposed to be here, and here we are.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
The craziest thing is I don't even know if I
I expect the people to be outside but the hysteria
that happened that it was was incredible.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
The news, the newspeople are calling it like it's something
similar to like a Patriot's parade as some Celtics.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Wild The pink people came out and droves guys. They
had pink poppers for like gender reveals.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
It's a girl boom.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
No, it's Karen Reid found not guilty on all three charges.
Second degree murder not guilty, manslaughter while operating a motor
vehicle under the influence not guilty, Leaving the scene of
a fatal collision not guilty. We'll discuss the OUI, but
who really cares. It's a slap on the wrist, honey,
a slap on the wrist. Karen Reid is not guilty.

(01:48):
And this begs the question is Karen Reid not guilty?
Or is Karen Reid innocent?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh, Karen is not guilty?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Kid, think about it? Not guilty?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Or is Karen read innocent? And I beg to differ
on either side. But I'll say this, the defense did
a fantastic.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Job of proving reasonable doubt and that is.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
All they needed to do.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
All they needed to do.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
It's not even a question for them of trying to
find out who did it anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
It doesn't matter. They proved that she didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
You know what I found interesting when they were interviewing
all the people like outside that kept going back to
John o'keef, which I feel like is the first time
the focus turned to him now, which it was heart woman,
because I feel like that has been forgotten for the
last three.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Times, well even yesterday with all of the craziness and
my phone's NonStop, and you know, I called in Pop
in the afternoon and I, you know, I'm kind of
just breaking down the charges and what it means and
her not being not guilty, and I said, listen, it's
remissive me also not to say as much of a
celebratory day as it is for Karen Reid and the
Reed family and the Pink people, there's also John O'Keeffe

(03:00):
family who took that as the biggest.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Loss of their life, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Because they firmly believe Karen Reid did this. And again
I go back to is Karen Read not guilty or
is Karen read innocence?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
To them?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
You know she's not guilty, Yeah, and she one did this,
But guess what this is literally a result of bad botched.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's all. That is it? That is it?

Speaker 7 (03:27):
This is why I like your question, because yes, is
it that she's not guilty? Or is the police department
too corrupt?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Which one?

Speaker 8 (03:32):
Is it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And that's it again.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
She could have did it, but y'all gave them enough
rope to be able to create reasonable doubt in in
a big way.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
In a massive way, in every single way imaginable.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
So even if you know you just said it, you
said that the team proved her not not guilty. Again,
they just proved that there was enough reasonable doubt for
you to think about it.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
To think she might not be guilty.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Something's not right.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
All they had to do was plant that seat. Maybe
she didn't. Maybe there's another scenario.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
Why was this done this way? Why was that done
this way? And when you stop creating that, that's it.
That's all you need.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Looking at the pink people outside and just some of
the signs they were holding, in some of the T
shirts they were wearing, all all pointing to the reasonable
doubt things that could never be answered for us. Why
are we putting DNA evidence in party cups in a
stoppy's bag? Why are we butts eling each other all
throughout the night. Why are we saying, oh, no, I

(04:32):
went to the police station and I moved around vehicles,
not moving vehicles and getting on the phone, where's Chloe,
for the love of God, because that's why Chloe could have.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Done it at this point, Chloe.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Come back now, because.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, Chloe's talking legs Like, damn, that wasn't the verdict
I wanted.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, I'm FLEs of my why for what bro my
season for me?

Speaker 5 (05:06):
I want to come out.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
But read talk but real talk. Why didn't no police
walk out of that house? If there's another police officer
on your I can never Yeah, I can never get
over that.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
And that's a good question. After visiting the house, like
you see how close it is, And that was the
biggest part for me. I'm like, even if you're sleeping
or pasted out, somebody's waking up. Somebody in that home
is gonna wake up because the police cars were right there.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
We are now left with nothing.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I know what Santi said it best. It's like after
the holidays, like Christmas is over and you're.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Just sitting there looking around in the room at each other, like, now,
what do we have to do?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Deal with.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
New Year knew me?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
No, Karen Reid, What the.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
Hell show with Foreign and Santi when you need to know?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
No, we got you Three things you need to know
on Boston number one for hip hop and the best throwbags.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Do you haven't any more?

Speaker 10 (06:07):
Five?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Mister Foreman on Dark at number twenty two eight two
c R one one seven zero zero one? Murder in
the second degree. Let's say, use the defendant the bar
guilty or not guilty?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Not guilty? Do you all of you agree?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Zero zero two.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Let's say is the defendant at the bar not guilty
or guilty?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Not yours? Not guilty or guilty?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Vote that charge you any lesser included charge? Thank you?
Specifically number five. Operating under the influence of liquor by
operating a motor vehicle the blood alcohol level or point
oh eight or greater. Correct. So say you, mister Foremant,
So say you all?

Speaker 8 (06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Zero zero three. Let's say is the defendant at the
bar leading the scene after action resulting and tests defendant
not guilty or guilty? So say you, mister formant, So
say you all?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Thursday, June nineteenth, It is June t a national holiday.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
And let me tell you something. We wouldn't miss it
for the world.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Karen Reid is free paper, She's free. Duh is how
Alan Jackson was yelling it outside of the courtroom yesterday.
Second degree murder not guilty, Manslaughter while operating a motor
vehicle under the influence not guilty, Leaving the scene of
a fatal collision not guilty. We will chat very quickly
here about the OUI she was found guilty for. Dare

(07:26):
I say, the most expensive DUI case.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
For the Commonwealth of Massachusetts? Damn near ever?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
What what I mean?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's crazy if you really think about it. They hit
her with the OUI charge. She got a slap on
the wrist in the courtroom. They were like, Okay, we'll
come back in a month or so. We'll figure out
what it's gonna be. The Commonwealth was like, no, let's
do it right now. She's a first time offender. It's
a slap on the wrist. Your probation and Karen, don't
drink and drive, honey. Actually, Karen, you might never want

(07:57):
to drink again.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's up to you.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I heard she was out celebrated last night. Most people
do with a cocktail and you win something like this,
But she got exactly what she deserved because again, first
time offender.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
So let's walk through yesterday, four days.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Of deliberation, and we finally got ourselves a verdict. It
was like the Pink People's Super Bowl. Chloe is somewhere
in Vermont, like, damn, this was not the answer that
I wanted.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Can we all agree now on the buffer zone?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
The buffer zone was placed exactly where it should have been,
because when those verdicts were.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Coming in, it was like they were cheering inside of
the courtroom. That was one of the craziest things.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
I've ever heard, and not without a little bit of drama.
So I had it up on my phone. All of
a sudden, I can see the comment section. Everyone's like,
we have a verdict. We have a verdict, we have
a verdict. BEV calls both signs into the courtroom and
we find out that the jury did a little on
the door. Hey, we're ready, we have a verdict. Two
minutes later, no, we don't pop fake. Now we're all

(08:56):
freaking out. We're trying to figure out, Wait, why did
they have a verdict? Now of a sudden, they don't
what's going on? What could they have thought? Why are
they changing. Do they watch more of the doc? Do
they think, Brian Higgins, what's going on? All these things
are going through your mind? And then not thirty minutes later,
they say, no, we got it, We're ready. They came out,
they gave us the verdict. I just read, not guilty

(09:17):
on all three of the main charges, guilty on a
little measley OUI She'll be fine, And here she is,
Karen Reid free coming outside of the courtroom.

Speaker 11 (09:28):
I just want to say two things.

Speaker 12 (09:30):
Number one is I could not be standing here without these.

Speaker 13 (09:35):
Amazing supporters who have supported me and my team financially
and more importantly emotionally for almost four years. And the
second thing I want to say is no one has
fought harter.

Speaker 11 (09:49):
For justice for John O'Keefe than I have. Then I have,
and my team thank you.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I know that use of you name one.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Peggy.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
I feel like in the last couple of years, I've
seen her smile, but the smile has been somewhat broken. Yesterday,
I feel like I saw her smile for the first one.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
The real one, genuine smile.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I mean, how about when they were reading the verdict
and her and Alan were kind of embracing and then
all of a sudden, they zoom in on her and
her Yeah, and by the way, again, that could have
been her last day sleeping in her bed, or she's
sleeping in a jail with bars on the window. She
didn't know, so her hands were shaking. Looks like she
hasn't eaten a singular thing in four years. Yeah, maybe

(10:30):
a few omens, but she I mean, listen, it was
kind of exactly the reaction I predicted from her, because again,
she didn't know where she was going to be sleeping.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Yesterday, she was listening to those verdicts come in.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
And then last night.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
You also have to assume that she got the first real,
entire night to sleep that she's gotten in three years,
because I assume she's been waking up in the middle
of the night. Like I wonder what waking up today
feels like compared to what it has been.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's different. Big middle finger to all those people who
try to put away.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, I was really trying to think of an example
and what I could liken it too, of her walking
outside of that courtroom to a massive sea of people
wearing pink and dare I say maybe Tom Brady after
the Super Bowl because it was similar.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It has to be and it has to be a
massive weight.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Like I can imagine if you have this feeling of like, hey,
you might die, then all of a sudden you're like, no,
you are all good.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
It has I picked this on purpose to play because
you know it's Karen. This Karen, that Karen, this Karen
that imagine being her parents. Yeah, like they're going through
this just as much as she is. I mean, I said,
Karen hasn't eaten in four years. I don't think Pops
has either. I mean that man's withering here he is.

(11:45):
After the verdict, I can't finish.

Speaker 11 (11:48):
Your I just want to.

Speaker 14 (11:49):
I want to acknowledge the strength of our daughter Karen,
the support of the entire read extended family. I want
to knowledge your greatest team of attorneys. Our first one
that we followed was David Yannetti. We have it Alan

(12:14):
Jackson in life a little while the Lessie you know
about all right. It was a fantastic team, but we
needed them all to defeat this. We thank everybody for
their support from the heart.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
We love you all.

Speaker 14 (12:30):
All of the content providers who helped spread the word.
Thank you so much. God bless you all.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
I mean listen.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Amazing lawyering on both sides, but Karen had the goat team,
like her squad was crazy and shout out to David Yanetti.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
He may have spearheaded this thing, but he.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Was like, hey, I got to take a step back,
we got to get in the big guns.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
And Alan Jackson says quote it was the best day
of his life.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I feel like a million dollars wee you.

Speaker 14 (12:59):
I feel like an innisent woman was just exonerated and vindicated.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
It It was the greatest moment I've ever had as
a professional. It was the greatest moment of Karen's life.
It was one of the best moments in my life.
What is your message to all the supporters out here?
Freed Karen Reid. Freed Karen Reid.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
On the day my child was born. I feel comfortable
saying it as well one of the best days of
line now, because wow, I mean, can we also say
like Turtle boys should be getting the biggest thanks, you
know what. I was working my way up to him,
but one hundred percent, we're not talking about this if
it isn't for an aiden Kearny.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I don't even imagine that man.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
But even watching the twenty twenty last night. There he
is Trio one in the background in the courtroom. He
is the one who said, wait a second, hold up,
something doesn't seem right here. This is a little fishy.
This seems off, so for sure. Shout out to a
turtle boy. Shout out to a Nick Rocco who helped
Karen with all of her funding. When Karen says things like,

(13:56):
you know, I appreciate the support you guys helping me
emotionally and monetarily, she's talking about Nick Rocco. Him and
his wife have been busting there, you know what, to
make sure Karen has the money to be able to
hire such an amazing team. Now again, the O'Keefe family,
everybody else, the Pink people, big.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Dub a loss for the O'Keefe family.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
And I asked that question, do you find Karen to
be not guilty or innocent? Because I'm telling you right now,
the O'Keefe family feels like that was just a not
guilty verdict. They truly believe that Karen did this to
John O'Keefe. Immediately following the verdict, we got a statement
from the Alberts and the mccabs. The Mcalberts, as the
Internet calls them. They said, today our hearts are with

(14:36):
John and the entire O'Keefe family. They have suffered through
so much and deserved better from our justice system. While
we may have more to say in the future, today
we warn with John's family and lament the cruel reality
that this prosecution was infected by lies and conspiracy theories
spread by Karen Reid, her defense team, and some in
the media. The result is a devastating miscarriage of justice.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Man, the documentaries and like just a series that I
come from this are going to be so amazing because
there's so many elements of deception of truth and all
this stuff there.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's gonna be insane.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
It wasn't obviously right of us to say, but in
this second trial we were put to sleep a couple
of times, right a lot of experts.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
We didn't get to see the heavy hitters.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
The Alberts, the we saw Jen McKay, but we didn't
really get to see the people we wanted to, i e. A.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Michael Proctor. Obviously that was for specific reasons.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Daddy al didn't want to have to deal with Hank's
cross and Hank didn't want to have to deal either.
But the bottom line is we've all been dying to
hear from Michael Proctor because we know that man lost
his life, his livelihood. He tainted this entire investigation once
we read Leaky Balloon, not things of that nature that

(15:46):
we can never forget. So as the verdict is coming in,
I'm getting a hit by people being like, ash, did
you know that Michael Proctor is gonna be on twenty twenty?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Excuse me, excuse me? What like talk about Christmas?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
This is like the gifts are done and in walks
Nana and says, oh me and pop up got.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
A few in the truck.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
So Michael Proctor is on twenty twenty last night, and
let's start with him crying and boohooing about losing his job.

Speaker 15 (16:13):
I just remember dropping on my knees and laying on
my lawn like crying. I couldn't even talk. I was
complete hysterics. And I remember my mother being like what
what what? And I kind of gathered myself and I'm like,
they relieve me of duty?

Speaker 16 (16:28):
What was it like handing over your badge, your gun,
your cruiser.

Speaker 15 (16:33):
What really got me was my union rep. He had
to come over to my house and pick up all
my uniforms. And the one time I broke down was
putting my class a uniform. You know, you go through
a six month academy and you're very proud to put
the uniform on.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
He had to pick up a donkey's neckin and wipe
his eyes at.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
That part, still trying to make it about him.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Oh, first before it was a lot like now listen,
did he say shouldn't have sent the text text messages?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
But did he stand firm on did I do the
right way? Did I investigate this the right way?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (17:07):
Is there any part of the actual investigation that you
would do over.

Speaker 15 (17:12):
Because it's blown up into this crazy, crazy uh so
called conspiracy. Maybe I could have avoided it by you know,
looking at other people's cars just to say we did it.
There's some witnesses. Maybe we could have interviewed a little
little sooner. But overall, myself and every detective in that

(17:33):
office worked this case like we always do. So I
wouldn't change anything nothing.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
No, wouldn't change a thing.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like he always did. Yeah, because he ain't investigating that.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
No, by the way it came out in there, which
I didn't know he is suing for wrongful termination because
I think he feels like he's an equivalent to a Yur,
a Bucaneic, like they were all in those text changes.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Which he could be. But at the same time, like
come on, and it also.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Can we can we talk about the fact that he's
put on some Melb's since he's been like a right, Karen,
that was the first thing, like when when I saw him,
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
When I get sad, I'm going right for donuts when
you ain't got no job, you got The text messages
were heard around the world, right, I mean, we think
about the first trial when he had to literally read
them in front of Karen so uncomfortable. So obviously the
text messages were brought up in the interview.

Speaker 16 (18:33):
I mean, I think one of the texts that you
sent about Karen Reid is that you said, hopefully she
kills herself. You texted this to your sister. That seems
incredibly unprofessional for a homicide investigator speaking about his suspect.

Speaker 15 (18:47):
It made him jests, you know, it's a figure of speech,
hopefully she kills herself like that. Not that's a figure
of speech, not commonly, but it's a figure of speech.
I made him like jests. It wasn't a little I
hope she kills herself.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
He did learn, make believe that's hilarious. That's hilarious. You
know you're being interviewed on twenty twenty. God's the response.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
We had the opportunity. That's what I'm saying. Did you
not learn nothing from Karen? Just apologize?

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Like not?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yes, he's like doubling down, and you know it should
have been that.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Was crazy of me.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I shouldn't have been text about the investigation. Crazy of
me to say I'll give them that.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
But I said it in jest. It's a figure of speech.
I don't I can't tell you what time I said it.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Clearly he didn't meet with anybody before this to kind
of coach him through what he should say.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Just in there.

Speaker 7 (19:42):
They somehow seem to get people without getting them. They
team involved and they just talking.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
I mean, listen, when do we not call it what
it is? I'm assuming he got paid.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
He had to, right, there's just no question because he's
hurting and I don't I mean, we don't know what
he's doing, but he does have a family.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
He's got mouths to feed. I'm sure he got a check.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
They also must have done the of you won ever,
because they've been holding onto this because they release it
perfect time building some other elements of the stuff, So
shout out.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
To twenty twenty Think just for you guys to watch
it in its entirety. They also included stuff from yesterday,
like they had Karen coming out. Of course they had
the verdict. I mean, it was a two hour like,
extremely well done project, and with the inclusion of Michael
Proctor it gave it an X factor because we haven't heard.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
From him, which again goes to Sancy's point that they
had it ready to go and they were just like
the last fifteen minutes we got to let's just let's
just put these end right there.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I have to edit right and we're done.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
It was.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
It was very well done.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
The final part of this, too is the fact that
like he dressed and he looked disheveled a bit. I
feel like, if you're gonna do this and try to
like gain the other end of things, dress up a
little bit. We're like a sweater, where's something nice that
gives people?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Tried to do that on purpose?

Speaker 7 (20:47):
You tell what the fact that he looks like hapathy
and he's crying and he's like, you know, my life
is over all the I think he did it on
purpose to make himself look like struggling.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
The only time where I felt like you had chip
on his shoulder is the clip I just played where
he talked about the investigation where he was like, I
wouldn't change anything.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Maybe I would reach out to people earlier, but we
did it.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
That was other than that, he seems like a broken man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
And like you have to assume that he's gone right,
he can't still be in the area.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
And it was crazy because I don't think so, but
it was, or maybe I really don't know, but it
was also crazy because they would clip in clips of
Daddy al in his closing arguments and being like, this
entire investigation was tainted because Michael Proctor touched it. This
entire thing was infected because Michael Proctor and then boom,

(21:36):
they would go to Procket. I mean, it was again,
if you haven't seen it, very well done. I think
you should absolutely watch it. I'm gonna leave you one
more time. That was three things you need to know
for Thursday, June nineteenth. I'm gonna leave you one more
time with this verdict if you are just tuning in.
Karen Reid found not guilty on all three of her

(21:57):
major charges.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Mister Foreman our dark number twenty two eight two c
R one one seven zero zero one Murder in the
second degree. Let's say, use the defendant of the bar guilty?
Are not guilty?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Not guilty? Do you all of you agree?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Zero zero two.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Let's say, is the defendant at the bar not guilty
or guilty? Not us not guilty or guilty? Vote that
charge or any lesser included charge, Thank you, Thank you specifically
number five. Operate under the influence of liquor by operating
a motor vehicle the blood alcohol level or point oh
eight or greater. Correct, So say you, mister Foremant guilty,

(22:32):
So say you all y zero zero three. Let's say
is the defendant at the bar leading the scene after
accident resulting in tests defendant not guilty or guilty, So
say you, mister formant, So.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Say you all.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
Day and the jam in Morning show with d J
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Speaker 11 (22:54):
You am in ninety four or five.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Legitimately comparable to Christmas morning.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, waking up today, I couldn't believe we weren't even
supposed to be here. I said that, well, there's only
one place that we have to be called you guys,
and I said, we got to make a play because
it came in yesterday in the afternoon. Not without drama.
Nothing in this case could happen just normal. Hey, we
have a verdict, let's read it and get out of here.
It was like, we have a verdict, No.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
We don't. Yeah what Wow?

Speaker 6 (23:27):
So clearly somebody got I don't want to use the
word pressured into making the decision, but they were undying. Sure,
They're like, wait a second, hold on, let me think
about this, and the whole room, Debbie, what the hell are.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
You doing, Rebbie?

Speaker 11 (23:38):
We want to leave. Have you seen the weather this weekend?

Speaker 5 (23:41):
It rained for thirteen saturdays in a row.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
This is the fourteenth and it's not going to We
gotta get out of here. Uh So, obviously a little
bit of drama behind it, but we got a verdict.
Karen Reid found not guilty on all charges other than
that little o ui. She is a first time offender
for a dewey so she's just gonna get a little
slap on the wrist, a year's worth of probation. But
remember she runs a red light and she gets pulled over.

(24:06):
She's in a lot more trouble than the rest of us.
And don't you you lose your license for a year
as well. So I'm assuming maybe that goes into it.
So maybe she won't be driving when you get a
he do you?

Speaker 7 (24:14):
I I think they just have the meaning, like right now,
she's gonna lose it if no, no, no, She's just
on probation.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
That's it. That's all.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I would just take public transportation if I were her
for like the rest of my life.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Just get on a scooter.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
I'm sure somebody out there is going to offer her
show first bicycle maybe something.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
But we find it out.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
I mean, the cheers, it sounded like the pink people
were inside the courtroom. It was like nothing I had
ever seen. I was gonna do a little Joki joke
right here and be like, here's Karen outside of the
courtroom and play oj but I'll actually play Karen.

Speaker 11 (24:48):
I just want to say two things.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
Number one is I could not be standing here without
these amazing.

Speaker 11 (24:55):
Supporters who have supported.

Speaker 13 (24:57):
Me and my team financial and more importantly emotionally for
almost four years.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
And the second thing I want to say is no one.

Speaker 13 (25:07):
Has fought Carter for justice for John O'Keefe than I have,
then I.

Speaker 11 (25:13):
Have and my team. I mean, you.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Know, this is a tough line right there.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
You know, Peggy o'keef might beg to differ, but either way, that's.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
What she wanted to say.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, and I understand that's probably on her mind. Maybe
that was prepared for her, but maybe you should have
left that part out because I think everybody, we all
felt the same way when she said that, Like, oh,
I was.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Just like, yeah, listen I again six one seven nine
three one one nine four five six one seven nine
three one one nine four five.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
For the pink people, it was a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
I want to talk to somebody that was down there
because I am hearing that just like you could feel
the electricity in the air. I mean, on the news,
you see these women down there with the pink shirts
on Free Cameron read. There's one specific woman I can
think think about that wears red solo cup earrings that
say evidence across the like it's just yeah, I mean,

(26:07):
people were coming from all over the world to be
there for this moment.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
We had Melissa from Saugus calling us every day.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
She's unemployed, she has no job, but she was still
going out and buying snacks to fill up her cooler
and sit in her soccer chair, so she was there
to not miss the moment. Six one seven nine three
one one nine four five that six one seven nine
five obviously, want to make sure that you guys are
part of the conversation. Jillian is in Rhode Island. Jillian

(26:34):
and not guilty verdict for Karen Reid.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
How do we feel.

Speaker 17 (26:38):
That's like the best thing ever, ever, the.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Best thing ever man, that's it?

Speaker 17 (26:45):
Have them No, But I mean like this is like,
this is the biggest waste of money that Massachusetts has
ever spent.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Nah, it's crazy, the most expensive dui and the Commonwealth
to go down literally the history books. But you actually
work in a jail. Were you guys prepping for Karen
Reid to arrive?

Speaker 17 (27:05):
Yes, we were, we were. We were like free Karen Reid.
It's just crazy because the aftermath of this in Proctor
and all the people that are gonna stop filing their
appeal cases is just right out of control.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Well, I feel like if you're somebody that's locked up
and you know that Proctor was a part of the investigation,
you probably you probably could file an appeal.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
It might just work for you.

Speaker 17 (27:33):
Correct, amaze, Correct, they don't. The ripple effect of this
is just way beyond Karen Reid.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, I think it's it's really only just begun. Jillian,
thank you so much for the call.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
H No, it's listen for a lot of a lot
of the pink people, Like I don't them waking up
this morning. It's gonna be a lot of like thumb twiddling.
I don't know what they'll do with their time.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Yeah, because for three years they've been focused on this
and now like where they going to go back to
normal life?

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Like no, Well, you know what's all so crazy too,
is I'm worried about I'm worried about Nick Rocco, who,
by the way, is going to join us at seven thirty.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Like, what's the next for Nick? Nick better start like
learning about the Idaho murders because he needs something else.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
I mean, I hope that he's gonna get some rest
because the last few weeks he's spoken to him, he
said he's been tired, so maybe get some sweet fascinating
as he.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Learned a lot about the COURTUS. You go to law school, right,
That's what I'm saying. He might start doing things to
be you know, on activists and helping other people who
might have been accused innocently.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, lanes.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Als in Salem, Al.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I mean, listen, it's certainly a question everybody is asking
this morning.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Go on.

Speaker 10 (28:39):
So I was just curious, like, now that Karen's free, Yo,
she's not guilty, which very happy about. You know, their
lead investigator was clearly pretty corrupt and they have no
other leads. So is there ever going to be justice
for gian O'Keefe, Like is the state ever going to
look into themselves?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah, that's a good question. That listen, and thank you
for the call.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I know that I've heard a lot of people saying
this morning, like the FEDS are going to start to
get involved, and maybe they'll start to dig deeper and
move their eyes at their places like Chloe or Brian
Higgins or the Alberts. So the list, you know, is long,
but I don't know if you're the Commonwealth, you've dug
in so much. And I also read this article that

(29:20):
for the Commonwealth. There is no need for them to
find quote who killed John O'Keeffe, because they believe it
was Karen reied so to them that this case is
wrapped up in a nice bow. They took it to
the courtroom. They didn't win, but regardless, they think that
Karen did it. So for them, they have their suspect.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
This is so embarrassing for them to They just all
look like idiots in the end too.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
I don't see anybody reopening this trial unless again the FEDS, FBS,
somebody comes in and gets involved.

Speaker 16 (29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Yeah, they like you said, they took the l we
tried it, we didn't win, and that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Or if Chloe comes back and says, you know what, guys,
here's what happened. You're right, Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 11 (29:56):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Six one seven nine one one nine four five six
one seven nine three one one nine four five haslong
till you call us and join the conversation. Hi, everybody,
good morning, It's Ashley and the jam In Morning Show.
If for some reason you live under a rock, God
bless you, and you're just waking up, this is the

(30:19):
only thing you need to know for the day. Karen
Reid has been found not guilty of second degree murder,
not guilty on manslaughter while operating a motor vehicle under
the influence, and not guilty of leaving the scene of
a fatal collision.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
That is not guilty verdict. People. She did get a
little slap on the wrist.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Guilty of an OUI that's probation for a year, just
like any other first time offender. We're talking a lot
about her outside of the courtroom where she you know,
she thanked everybody emotionally, monetarily and said that she has
been fighting for John O'Keeffe.

Speaker 11 (30:52):
I just want to say two things.

Speaker 12 (30:54):
Number one is I could not be standing here without these.

Speaker 11 (30:59):
Amazing quarters who have supported me.

Speaker 13 (31:02):
And my team financially and more importantly emotionally for almost
four years. And the second thing I want to say
is no one has fought harter for justice for John
O'Keefe than I have.

Speaker 11 (31:17):
Then I have and my team thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
You just know, somebody in John aaque's family heard that.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I was, yeah, yeah, what do you think she does
this weekend? Do you think she goes away? Like if
I were her, I'm going away.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Saw a picture of her out last night. I saw
a picture of her out last night, sitting at a
bar with Daddy Hall.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
At the seaport. I think, so can we finally talk
about her and that, like, I.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Don't think there is, but if there was, I would.
That's a wedding. He's married, right, he is married to
this case, and so now there's a chance his wife
is I mean, like he's been living here like this is.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
You've seen it with actors. Basically you live on the
movie set for a couple of years, and you as.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I have heard though that after he heard the way
she was flirting with Brian Higgins, he was like.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'm out, really no, but I was.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
But I would like I would.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Freedom she just gave not even twenty four hours ago.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
We're stirring the pond.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'm not the only one who's thought this though.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
It's gonna have to find love again. If you are
that person, I'd never get in the car rider what
that's a fact, though, you Karen, I'll drive.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
You're all right, it's not going to be to see
but I'm not. That's it.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
We'll leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
She'll fine.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
One day, she'll find love and it'll be fine and
if it is with daddy al oh my god, yeah,
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
If you want to join the conversation at any point
this morning six one seven nine three one one nine
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Speaker 9 (32:59):
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Speaker 5 (33:04):
Number one for hip hop? Do you have in ninety
four or five?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Perfeman on dock at number twenty two eight two c
R one one seven zero zero one. Murder in the
second degree. Let's say, use the defendant of the bar
guilty or not.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Guilty, not guilty? Do you all of you agree?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Thank you? Zero zero two. Let's say, is the defendant
at the bar not guilty or guilty, not us not
guilty or guilty about that charge or any lesser included charge,
thank you specifically number five. Operating under the influence of
liquor by operating a motivator a blood alcohol level or
point oh eight or greater. Correct, So say you, mister

(33:42):
foremant so say you all yeah? Zero zero three. Let's
say is the defendant at the bar leaving the scene
after accident resulting in tests defendant not guilty or guilty?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
So say you, mister formant, so say you all, I
had to play it for the seventeenth time because for
the past two years, this man has joined our show
and I've asked him at the end of ninety percent
of our interviews, is Karen Reid guilty or not guilty?
And Nick Rocco has never wavered, not even one singular

(34:15):
time from his answer that Karen Reid is not guilty.
It was a late night for you. You were on
Court TV. You're just waking up. You're doing this last
interview with us for Karen and our Karen conversations.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Nick, you did it, man. It's like you're not guilty too.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:34):
I mean it was a long two and a half years.
We've all been saying this since day one, and the
story has never changed. The Massachusetts State Police and the
Canton Police Department framed Karen Reid, FORMERDA And here we
are now, June twenty, what is it the nineteenth yesterday,
we finally hear the words not guilty. And this is

(34:55):
what we've been telling everybody. It's just surreal to finally
be at this moment where you know, you hear those
words come out in everything that you've done over the
past two and a half years. You've just been vindicated,
and it was a good feeling yesterday. I mean, the
crowd outside was absolutely wild. I've never seen anything like Yeah,
I've been a pot of anything like this. It was

(35:17):
just it was it was surreal.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
I mean you were physically there, but even watching it,
I was like, oh my god, this is next level.
I said, I one hundred percent to understand the buffer
zone now, because the cheers were so loud in the
courtroom while I was streaming, I could almost not hear
the verdict, so I can't imagine how loud it felt
in the actual courtroom. I think it's also surreal to

(35:39):
see Karen come out of the courtroom with her entire
family and who leads them out, Nick Rocco, Like just
watching you on my TV screen, ahead of the family,
the friends. There he is, and Karen comes out and
she addresses the crowd and she says this.

Speaker 11 (35:57):
I just want to say two things.

Speaker 12 (36:00):
Number one is I could not be standing here without
these amazing supporters who have supported me and my team
financially and more importantly emotionally for almost four years.

Speaker 13 (36:14):
And the second thing I want to say is no
one has fought hard for justice for John o'keef than.

Speaker 11 (36:21):
I have then I have and my team thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Listen, you don't strike me much as the emotional guy,
but I do know that financially you have done everything
in your power to kind of help Karen and her team.
And that's that's kind of initially how you got into this.
People have asked me that all the time, like who
is Nick Rocco to Karen Reid? And I feel like
initially it was about the Facebook page and you trying
to raise money and help with her and all of

(36:46):
the financial issues that she was dealing with.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Because Karen, she's in some trouble financially. This cost her
a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
So basically when I got involved on the goal was
to raise five thousand dollars towards her defense fund, and
then as of yesterday, I think the final number was
like five hundred and thirty thousand that I had contributed
to it. All in all, it's over all in all,
it's over a million dollars. And this is just people
in the public, I mean that believed in in her

(37:17):
innocence and we sorry yesterday. This this is something that
you know it's going to go down in history as
probably one of the craziest cases in Massachusetts for a
long long time. And you know, every every time I
came on this episode, like you said, I've always been
open to having a discussion with the other side. No

(37:39):
one really from the other side likes to call in.
You guys had your chance. Unfortunately the verdict came out.

Speaker 10 (37:47):
Not to brag, but you were right, you.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Can brag now.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I think it's safe to say you can go ahead
and brag.

Speaker 10 (37:53):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Five thousand dollars and now thirty and pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
No, that's that's beyond set the scene for us, Nick,
because again we watched it and we could see how
crazy it was.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
But there you.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Are standing with Karen after she finds out she's not guilty,
she's gonna be sleeping in her own bed. Again, what
was she saying to her team? What was she saying
to you? What were her thoughts? I mean, she was shaky,
she was all of the things. But what's like a
little bit of inside info you could give us on
that moment.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
So I came.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
I came out of the courthouse first because I wanted
to see them come out. I wanted to I wanted
to hear what they had to say. Sometimes when you're
standing behind them and you really can't, you don't get
the full moment. And it was kind of wild when
I walked outside of the court room like they were.
They were even she is for me, which was it
was unexpected. But everybody was just in such a great mood.

(38:49):
And then, uh, you know, once that verdict came out,
it was I don't want to say awkward, because obviously
both sides were one side was very sad, one side
was happy. But you know, Karen's side of the of
the family didn't really show much emotion at first because
it's because they knew the sentence thing was going to come,

(39:11):
and you know, out of respect, if they're sit and
they're celebrating, that could have potentially upset Judge Beverly Canoni
and then could have they could have sentenced started to
two years for a DUI. You know, she got a
year probation and she has to take a class. Now.
I don't know if she gets if she gets her
license back right away, because it's been suspended for the
past three years, and usually it's only suspended for a

(39:33):
year when you get the DUI, so they may reinstate
their license. The Massachusetts State Police they they owe Alexis
and it should be the condition that they received it,
not the condition that they ended up putting it in.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
I'm not but as I am, I don't want to
drive a Lexus anymore. I don't want to smell a Lexus.
I might get a Tesla anything, but Alexis.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Maybe a bicycle, as I said earlier, maybe just like
never drive again.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Again.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
I said this, Nick, and I don't ever feel like
you haven't, you know, shown or made people feel like that.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
John O'Keefe was lost in all of this.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Quite the victory for you and the Pink people yesterday,
but also just a tremendous loss for the O'Keefe family because,
number one, you know, it's obviously very true that they
believe Karen Reid is not guilty but still not innocent.
But you know, for them, I think yesterday was a
big loss, and so, like you said, it probably did
feel heavy in that courtroom as well.

Speaker 8 (40:34):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure how people who believed
she was guilty didn't see this coming after the notes
were read. To be honest, when I had spoken to you,
I thought they were pretty clear on what they will
hung on and it ended up being what they were
hung on was that DUI charge. So I mean it
is it's horrible for the O'Keefe family. I do feel

(40:56):
bad in the sense that, you know, uh, mister and
missus O'Keefe had to bury two of their children. I
don't think anybody should have to do that. But at
the end of the day, you really can't get justice
for John when you were trying to prosecute Karen Reid.
And unfortunately, the state has been so hung on on
convicting Karen Reid for this that they're never gonna They're

(41:18):
never gonna go out and investigate this any further. They're
gonna they're gonna when they do come out with a statement,
they're probably gonna say something along the lines of, you know,
they know Karen did this, or they believe Karen did this,
so they're not going to go look for somebody else.
Same with with OJ. They never went out and looked for,
you know, another killer once OJ was found not guilty.
But now she has to stop the civil trial. You know,

(41:40):
the O'Keefe is suing her for wrongful death.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
I was going to bring that up because Forurren and
I were kind of chatting about that yesterday, you know.
And for people that don't know, this isn't just like
the end of the road for Karen where she's going
to go off in the sunset like Casey Anthony and
take pictures in Florida.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Don't work like that.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
So what what is the civil suit that Karen's looking
at and and at four? And I think you look
that up. They they did that. They filed that.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
In August August, and it was on pause until the
end of this and I guess they're gonna end it,
but Nick talk to it, talk about it a little
bit more so.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
I believe the reason why they did it back in
August before the second trial was hoping to get Karen
Reid in a deposition. And if you don't know what
a deposition is, it's basically like you go in a
room and they can ask you any question they want,
they can get any discovery they want, and also Karen
and her defense team can depose anybody they want as

(42:28):
well during this civil trial. And one important thing to
note is that during the criminal trial, a lot of
stuff from the FBI was kept out. Judge Beverly Canoni
did not allow majority of that three thousand page document
to come into the court room. In this civil trial,
it's a totally different ballgame. You can bring anything, you
can depose anybody, So basically the burden of proof is

(42:52):
lower in a civil case. But then again, I mean
you saw the people outside good Luck trying to find
a jury for that civil case that doesn't believe he's innocent.

Speaker 11 (43:01):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Think you could ever find a jury without any bias. Ever.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Again, I mean it's just I think that would be
certainly way too hard. What is the next step for
Nick Rocco? Like what are you being sor like, what's
going on? What's going through your break?

Speaker 8 (43:19):
Nothing? I mean, listen, this has been a when I
got involved, never did I think it was going to
be a two and a half yea thing. I thought,
you know, I was going to raise a couple thousand dollars,
case would be over and everybody would move on. But
at this point, just taking a break from all of this,
So I have no plans. I don't know what could

(43:40):
potentially come in the future. If something does, cool, If not,
it's all good too. But really it's just getting back
to my daily life and you know, going back to
work and being home with the family.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Well, one thing I did ask you at the very
beginning of this is when it came to an end,
you got to come back to the studio.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
And when you come you better be with somebody. And
I'm gonna need you. I'm gonna need you to action
that at least at least ender the invite.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
I mean, I need a drop that says like, this
is Karen Reid and you're listening to gym in ninety
four or five.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
That's all I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Fortunate gonna come on air, but you know, see if
you can see if you can work that for me.
But I mean, I just want to give you a
huge thank you. I know how busy you are. I
know that every Friday at seven point thirty, like you
cleared your schedule for us. I mean, at some points
we could hear birds chirping, you were dropping the kids off,
you were doing like a million things. But you never
let any listeners of this show down other than Beth obviously,

(44:36):
And I just again you you became Court TV's guy,
and even during that time when people were seeing you
on TV, you still made sure to come here every Friday.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
So we really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Go take a very very very earned break, deep breath.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
You won Go ahead, peacock, my man, you got this.

Speaker 8 (44:54):
Not guilty for it, That's right, not guilty. And like
I said, know, throughout all of this, Uh, there's so
many people that believed in this movement and and a
lot of people were emotionally yesterday for both for both reasons,
sad and happy. To the viewers and listeners on this
show that have been following this case through me, I

(45:17):
appreciate the time that you've given me as well at
the studio. But yeah, I mean it's it's it's bittersweet. Uh,
something we've been working on for so long has finally
come to an end in the best way that we
could have imagined it. So, uh, you know, Karen Reader
is freed.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Karen's that's the news thing.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Nick, thank you so much. Go back to sleep, get
some rest.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
You did it all right.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Everybody see you, Lena.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
It's almost like Nick was at thirty four years at
this point of my time and my book.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
He was like, I hope this isn't a breakup. I
hope we can still came in contact with him, because'm
gonna miss him, because he was really in our.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Lives like every week for like three years.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
It was like, what are our Fridays like without a Nick? Now,
I said, he's gonna have to start digging into the
diny try or figuring out what's going on with the
Idaho murders.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
And we can't. We can't lose Nick. But you know what,
he sounds sleepy.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, but was an emotional babe.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
But he's been NonStop.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Take a couple of weeks and figure out what your
next movie is.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
And I feel it's going to be in law somewhere
because because he I mean, he did his thing half
a million dollars that when you're only trying to get
five thousand.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
I really think Nick should started some sort of a
podcast in that aspect of things and just break down
different crimes and all that.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Already needs to be free Glory Junet to do me
a favorite pick up, Pick up the cake and I'll
be happy.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
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