BEEF UP FRONT: ANARCHY! -- 11/16/23

Sean Brace and Ryan Coyle bring you the latest anarchy in college football!

Episode Transcript

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The game is one in the trenches. They just don't have to beef upfront,
all right, So you better havebeef up front. They have the
skill position players, they have thedefensive backs, they have the quarterback.
They don't have the beef up front, they says, your weekly stop for
all things college football. Now hereare your hosts, Ryan Coyle and Sean
Brace up and running here beef upfront all things college football. Of course,

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beef is Ryan Coyle. I ama Sean Brace. This is once
again your one stop shop for allthe news and information you need in the
world of college football. Now withonly two regular season games left, man
a lot to play for, alot up for grabs, including a Heisman
Trophy award and a couple college playoffspots Final four spots. So we're gonna

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break it all down, of course, Ryan Coyle with me here and Ryan
good evening, sir. A lotto get to as far as the world
of college football. But bottom line, last week, a couple winners,
a couple of easy ones. Inot a lot of surprise happening last week
with Franklin Alabama rolling. Yeah,I mean it's pretty crazy. You're just
saying earlier, how we're we're righthere with only two regular season games left

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from most teams. I mean,USC actually wraps up their regular season this
week, and they have a chanceto go seven to five. And I
know, coming into the year,a lot of people peg them as kind
of the national their national title team. So this has been a pretty wild
season. But a lot of thesetop dogs are still sitting there at the
top undefeated. But these next fewweeks have we as we've kind of been
alluding to, everything's gonna slowly figureitself out. Teams are starting to get

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knocked out more and more and it'sstarting to dwindle down. But the real
chaos is really coming up in thesenext few weeks. I will decide the
playoff, So you do you're stillbelieving that, Yeah, it's gonna work
itself out. Of course, Michigano House State. They're gonna eliminate one.
One team's going of course with theSEC championship game, Alabama and Georgia.
If Georgia wins that that eliminates Alabamamakes life real easy for the other

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teams that possibly could end up withone loss. But if Georgia doesn't win,
if Alabama wins like that there couldbe straight anarchy with that one victory
because of course it's Alabama. Butso you're still under the impression right here
on November to fifteenth that college football, no matter the rankings last night,
bottom line is in two to threeweeks, all our answers will be there.

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Yeah, I think so. Andit's especially prevalent in college football and
basketball when you know your resume matters. Teams get penalized more for losing later
in the season. Like if Alabamais the first loss, whord you come
to Georgia in the SEC title orlike you know what I mean by that,
if that was their first loss,that would just be the gut punch
for them, the elimination. Likethe fact that Alabama lost earlier in the

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year to Texas, that was actuallykind of a reward for them, just
because that's kind of in the past. And I think like like with Oregon
and Washington too. Washington already beatOregon, but if Oregon beats them later
in the season in the Pac twelfchampionship game, they'll most likely get in
over them. So I think everythingwill kind of take it in self into
account. But there's a lot ofthings that have to happen for all these

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hypothetical scenarios to wind up. Iwant to pin you down right from the
start here, Florida State versus Washington, right here, right now, who's
got the more impressive resume. Ithink you'd still have to say Washington because
I think they have the best winwith that Oregon win. As I was
saying Florida State, they're kind ofa victim of their own success because you

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look at their September they knock offClemson NLSU, two teams that were expected
to compete for the playoff spot themselves. But now you look, Clemson's a
four loss team, LSU is athree loss team, So those wins don't
really look as good as they didbefore. Well, why not bump them
up? Then? If the CollegeFootball Committee like looks at it the same
way that they should as we are, the Pac twelve deserves a hell of

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a lot more credit this year.We're quick to kick them when they were
down over the past few years,and rightfully so. But this year they've
been delivering it and they got somereally good, high powered off to some
teams that I think could shake thingsup. Not going to go as far
as just beat Georgia. Last timeI did that, TCU ended up losing
sixty five to seven. But whatI am trying to say is that right
here, right now, PAC twelvemore impressive to me than the ACC.

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So why are they still in frontof Washington? In your opinion, it's
it's I think the beauty and inthe eye of the beholder, in those
circumstances, it's I feel like youjust have to be in that room to
really have a dead set opinion onit. Washington's also had a few stinkers,
a few games where they've been kindof playing with their food a little

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bit too much, and some ofthese wins that they might look good on
paper, but like the USC win, at the end of the day,
USC might be a five lost teamand Florida State's still undefeated, and I
think eye test wise, I thinkthey're right up there talent wise with with
some of those top teams as well. All right, let's get into the

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car because we've got a lot todiscuss, and we're going to wrap up
with some Heisman Trophy conversation as well. I want to open it up right
from the gate with the team wewere just discussing seven thirty kickoff once again.
DraftKings Sports Book is where we're gettingall of our numbers from here.
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promo code. And at seven thirtypm. Interesting spread here might be trying

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to tell you a thing or two, but I'm not buying what they're selling.
Oregon State two and a half pointfavorites right now over Washington. Of
course, Washington with the better record, undefeated ten and l Oregon State corval
is really difficult, especially at night, I understand, But eight and two
here, six and four ats forOregon State this season, and like I
said that, right now they aretwo and a half point favorites over Washington.

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Why is that in your mind?Where the odds makers thinking? And
what are you saying, Ryan Quill? Yeah, I mean the home field
is obviously the big thing in thisone, and the fact that Oregon State
has this opportunity and it's another oneof those games where Oregon State has the
chance to kind of, you know, piss on Washington on their way out
the door, I mean, leavingOregon State and Washington State as the only

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two teams left. I mean,Oregon State has that chance to kind of
kick them while they're down and belike, we should have been the team
considered not you. It's also aclash of styles in this one. Oregon
State's built more like that big tensquad. They want to maul you in
the wrong game, shorten the possessions, keep Washington off the field, all
that kind of old school talk.But at the end of the day,
you have to find a way tostop this Washington team. And no one

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has really done it all year.I know, I said they've had a
couple stinkers, but this is stilla team when in the big games they've
shown up. I mean they stillthe lead the country and passing yards per
game with three hundred and seventy eight. And if they can get up early,
I think that's the key. Ifthey were able to get up early
and make Oregon State kind of playfrom behind and throw the football around the

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yard, that's where where Washington's goingto have their success, because this Oregon
State team's not built to do that. If Oregon State is able to get
out control the league, get upto like a ten to nothing start,
really just milk the clock and forceWashington to kind of be perfect by throwing
from behind, then that's going toplay into their hands. But I just
think at the end of the day, Washington's a been football team. They've
won all these games for a reason, and I just think it's hard to

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emulate their style of play in practice. Three NFL receivers. You're not used
to seeing that if you're Oregon Stateevery day in practice. So I like
Washington to go and win this gameoutright. At the end of the day.
It's the same thing why I'm takingthe Eagles over the Chiefs. I
just think they're the better football team. It's hard to argue. It's just
something there with that line and thenmoney coming in on Oregon State. Man,

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just the fact that they're going tobump that up to two and a
half. Hey, if you wantto continue to push it in that number,
you want to make it three andthree and a half, I'll take
it all day. Call me asucker, but I've been all about Washington
now. Last week, luckily didnot touch them on the spread. Was
definitely disappointed giving up twenty eight toUtah in the first half, but they
ended up scoring thirty plus, whichwas their team total, So we cashed
on that one. Another victory there. They're just dominant. Man. I

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think they're averaging like forty one pointsper game. It's just fun to watch,
and I'm a big Penis fan.We'll come back to that Pennocks conversation
a little bit later. This one'ssixty three and a half is your total
in this one? And from theteam prop perspective, Washington floating around to
twenty nine thirty, Well, actuallywe'll higher. Thirty one and a half
is plus one oh five again tome, if it's anything under thirty two

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and a half, I'll probably takeit. But thirty one and a half
at plus one oh five women onthat as well, I'm buying. I'm
buying all things Washington. I thinkthey get undefeated and I like them in
that big twelve PAP twelve PAC twelveA championship game against Oregon. Curious any
leaning that for you. I actuallylike Oregon, and the books really like

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them too. I'm pretty sure Isaw the other day they're actually minus one
ninety to win the PAC twelve.Right now, I think the thing with
Oregon that why I really like themin that initial matchup is just the balance
that they present because they can beatyou if they want to play in a
shootout or like Oregon State's going totry and to beat you up at the
line of scrimmage. Oregon can doeither of those. It's just they kind

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of got a little too cute,I think on the road, a little
too aggressive at times. In thatWashington game, they miss it. They
just had basically every close thing thatcould have went wrong it went wrong for
them, and they still only lostthe game by three. So I think
neutral site they're just a better overa football team. All right, let's
keep it moving. Eight pm,will stay in the nightcap. We got
Texas in Iowa State. Big timegame right here. For Texas, they're

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seven and a half point road favoritesforty seven. As you're total late in
the season, this has gotta bea possible letdown spot correct for Texas.
Yeah, I mean, you're you'renot gonna get remembered. I think in
this industry by playing it safe,I'm actually gonna take Iowa State to win
this game and the lapse Texas thewhole Texas is Back narrative. They've been

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playing with their food too much,and I think we've been leading up to
this the past few weeks one ofthese top dogs is going to get knocked
off. Like we've been saying,it's all gonna play itself out, This
would certainly be probably the biggest dominoin playing itself out because in the Big
Twelve is eliminated entirely. I meanTexas last week a three point win over
TCU after giving up twenty one pointsin the fourth quarter. They tried to

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blow that game. The rollercoaster ofthe ride that was a Kansas State game
where if Kansas State's kicker made anextra point, Kansas State would have won
that game. As well. Theloss to the Oklahoma team earlier in the
year that isn't really looking that legitas the season has gone on, and
this is another chance for as Isaid with Oregon State to do to Washington,
this is a chance for Iowa Stateto really kind of piss on their

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grave Texas as they head out thedoor to the SEC. And I think
Ia State also has kind of theformula to pull off the upset because they're
that old school team as well,where they're just gonna want to make this
game ugly, not let Texas getin any type of rhythm. This is
going to be the super Bowl inIowa State for a team that really at
the beginning of the year looked inshambles with all the players with the gambling

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accusations, Matt Campbell potentially on thehot seat. They've had a few down
years in a row. This hasbeen a really nice year for Iowa State,
kind of coming back after a fewdown seasons, and this would really
be be a great way to topit off. I think the spread is
certainly a good play in this one, and this is one I'm looking at
to like live bet as well,Like if Texas finds a way to get
up early ten to nothing, fourteento nothing, look to play that back

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for Iowa State. Try to getthem on the live number throughout the game,
because if we've seen anything from Texas, it is that they kind of
take their foot off the gas whenthey get these leads and they let these
other teams come back into it.So I think that's a certain certainly a
good gambling angle for this game aswell. Uh, not to get into
anything from the Texas A and Mstandpoint, but as far as Big twelve
conversation is concerned. Surprised that JimO Fisher got let go last week I

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mean, when the number seventy sixmillion gets thrown around, I think you
should be a little bit surprised ateverything. But the interim coach was actually
saying that he was. He waskind of surprised himself in the locker room
because it was a big win.They had a I think it was Mississippi
State. They crushed them. MississippiState wound not firing their coach right after
that. But then everyone was inthe locker room high five and good emotions,

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and it seemed like, all right, maybe we're turning a corner here
something and then just see it allgo. Like I said, seventy six
million, you gotta be a littlebit surprised at that. But with all
the money that they have, money'sreally no objective for Texas A and M,
which I might argue is the worstjob in the country just due to
the expectations. Yeah, they're completelydelusional down there. I don't remember them

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ever really competing for anything, tobe honest with you, I know they
had some good years with Manziel,but other than that, not really went
like nine to three I think withJohnny Manziel when he won the Heisman.
Yeah, yeah, I and againI just right, I missed anything in
the last two decades. Have theyever been really in the conversation for a
national championship? No, they're thePenn State of the South pretty much.

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Oh ouch, yeah, Penn State. They got a lot in common with
that Dallas Cowboys too, a lotof you know, reminiscing about the nineties
and haven't done a damn thing since. Now. I know that they've had
some good seasons mixed in, butyou know, that's a second tier team
compared to the teams to consider topdogs that can win it all year in,

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year Outpenn State just is not inthat level. Texas. I am
clearly in agreement with you on thatone. All right, let's talk about
some teams that can win it all. Let's go to the number one team
in the country, Georgia hosting tensc good old Rocket top ten and a
half points spread on DraftKings sportsbook,fifty nine and a half is your total
on this one, three point thirtyPM. Any chance that Tennessee makes this

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a good ballgame here on Saturday afternoon, I'm saying no, I mean Georgia.
I think shown us that no teamin college football gets up for a
big game, a big opponent likethem. I mean the Kentucky game,
they dominated, Florida dominated, OleMiss, absolutely dominated last week and they
got down seven to nothing after thatthe first like game script plays by Lang
Kiffin, George's absolutely just destroyed himfrom that. I mean, they can

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just seemingly turn it on whenever theywant. And I think that game against
Bamant in the SEC title game isgoing to be the college football game of
the year. I mean, boththese teams are playing their best ball.
And this is Georgia team that wehaven't seen the last two years that won
the national title. Those teams arebuilt on defense. This team is number
five in the country in total yardson offense. Carson Beck has played really
well at quarterback, Rock Bauers andLad McConkie both in the lineup. Now,

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this is a team that can reallythrow the football around the yard and
they can go out there and wina shoot out. I think that was
a concern the past few years wherewe saw Ohio State umust pick them off
last year in that high score andaffair. Where are they really built to
go out there? I think thisyear that team is and Kendall Milton is
still a really good running back,and they can spread the ball around in
the passing game. So a balancedoffense, but a team that can go

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out there and put up points.Certainly a different identity than the Georgia we've
seen. I really like them inthis spot. I think Tennessee as a
program has taken a step back thisyear after a really step up this year
every big game that they seemingly haven'tshown up. So I do like Georgia
this week minus the ten and ahalf, and I did get the over
a fifty nine and a half aswell. All right, let's keep it
moving. Let's talk about two teamsto the Big ten. Get your thoughts

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on Michigan and Ohios. We'll startat Michigan. They're a noon kick,
Michigan taking on Maryland on the road. They're nineteen point favorites fifty and a
half. Will it be a ballgamewithin the nineteen? Should we roll up
the terps to make life difficult onMichigan? Enough of the you know,
the I'm the victim, the victimhood, and you know, just to score

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some points and like I said,make it an interesting ballgame, whether that
is keeping it within the number ortwo touchdowns, I don't give a damn,
but just inside that nineteen to eighteenpoint range. Yeah, So when
you look at both Michigan and OhioState, I mean, obviously it is
the biggest look ahead spot of theseason as most most likely both of those

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teams will be undefeated heading into theMichigan Ohio State game Thanksgiving weekend. So
I think that's something you can lookat Maryland with the nineteen, and then
it's Minnesota is twenty seven and ahalf. I think those are both spots
you certainly could look at. I'mnot betting either of them, just it's
these spots are too funkiest actually,so with whatever's going on at Michigan and

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so that's a lot of points tocover on the road, I would probably
lean towards more taking the Minnesota plusat twenty seven and a half because they're
another team that if they want to, can kind of slow it up a
little bit. But Ohio State's passinggame has looked pretty good over the past
few weeks. Kyle McCord I thinkis playing his best, most comfortable football,
Marvin Harrison still out there. Soboth these games are kind of stay

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aways for me. More so justkind of look and evaluate both as they
head into that final game against eachother, because I don't think either team
is really going to show a wholelot this week. All right, beef
up front, Ryan Coyle, SeanBrace, and you did hit on that
twenty seven and a half. It'sa fifty total here. That's a four
pm kick between Minnesota and Ohio State. The other game at four o'clock that

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has my interest in a big wayis or Again, they're twenty three and
a half point road favorites on theroad at Arizona State. Fifty four and
a half is your total? Again? Any type of ballgame happening there in
Arizona State, I don't think so. No. I do have on my
card Oregon minus the twenty three anda half. This week. They're in
a spot where Ohio State and Michiganit doesn't matter for either of those.

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They could both win by three pointsthis week. It doesn't matter. The
winner of that next game going tothe Big Ten title game and will go
to the College Football Playoff no matterwhat. Oregon is kind of in the
spot where they might need some likestyle points, like if they need a
last second touchdown drive, a lastsecond field goal to knockoff Arizona State.
I think that could get used againstthem down the line, even if they
wind up beating Washington. All theseteams went with one loss. They don't

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have any any time to play aroundwith their food. They need to win.
They need to win big. Doeverything that they can do, possibly
enhance that resume, because if itgets to the spot where there's like four
one loss teams that deserve to getin, you have an undefeated Ohio State,
or undefeated Ohio State or Michigan,you have the undefeated Florida State.
There's a bunch of teams sitting therewith one loss. There's going to be

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room for debate. So you wantto win as these games as big as
possible. So I think Oregon putstheir phone on the gas and keeps it
there, and I really like themto win this game, probably by thirty
or more. All Right, finallythe one that I want to know about,
and then we'll get the rest ofyour card. Florida Missouri. This
game's going off at seven thirty pm. DraftKings showing Florida catching eleven and a
half. Now, Missouri has beenimpressive, especially the last two weeks,

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they only have two losses on theseason. I believe last two weeks to
boat Race Tennessee last week, andthen the previous week to that was Georgia,
where they came up just short butmade it a ballgame and of course
covered the number where they were catchingfourteen thirty one to twenty. Easier said
than done on the road in betweenthe hedges at Georgia. So this one

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eleven and a half, I justfeel like there's a little perspective into Missouri.
I like Florida a lot actually inthis catching the eleven and a half
points. Graham MERT's been steady.I don't really think that this is a
team that will go and win thisgame. But you want to give me
double digit points, I'll take theGators here. Where are you at in
this one, Beef? So myplay on this one, I got the

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over a fifty. I think theseare two teams that are able to put
up points. I think we seesome scoring. Florida though a lot of
pressure on them in this game.I mean, I don't think that this
is a spot that they're gonna winoutright, but I believe coming into this
season they're over under win total wasfive and a half. They were sitting
at five and two heading into thatGeorgia game. They've now lost three in
a row. You have the numbernine team in Missouri, and then you

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play Florida State the next week,so they might be five and seven,
and you might be seeing a changein Florida's coach and Billy Napier out the
door as well, just based offof what they kind of have shown down
the stretch. So this is ahuge game for Florida, even with you
know, not really much to playfor. This is a man that I
think is still kind of coaching forhis job. But Missouri there, I

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think you can put them up thereas the surprise of the college football season
how well they've played. This isa team that is most likely going to
win double digit games. A tenand two Missouri team with a coach coming
into the year on the hot seat. This is the kind of year that
Billy Naper's gonna have at Florida nextyear. But I do think these are
just two teams that are gonna getup and down the field a little bit,
score some points. But I'm notgonna touch touch the number in this

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one. All right, Let's getyour final thoughts on the card. What
else are you looking at this week? All right, well we're going We're
going back to the well with anotherIowa under hit it again last week,
first Rutgers. This week. Itcomes in at under thirty and a half
is what I got it at.I think that number has hit now four
straight weeks thirty or less, soI'm gonna keep it rolling there. I

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also have Miami plus one. They'rehosting Louisville this week. That's a weird
kind of spread to me. Miamihad a really nice performance last week against
Florida State. They were right init until the end, and then Louisville
really struggled to put away Virginia lastweek, so I think this spot Miami
could potentially pick them off. Andthen I had a couple more. I
like Kansas State over fifty six anda half against Kansas. Kansas's quarterback Jackson

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or Jason Bean got knocked out lastweek with an injury, but he was
practicing today. Kansas has really playedwell on offenses here. That was their
worst performance last week against Texas Tech, so I think they get back on
And Kansas State has gone over thetotal in their last four games and then
one more play. I'm gonna gowith ole Miss minus thirty seven. I
believe they're playing Louisiana Monroe this week. This is just one of those spots

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where ole Miss is just gonna goand lay the beat down on them just
to get that tasse out of theirmouth from that Georgia game. And one
of those games where ole Miss mightwin it like fifty nine to ten or
something looks good for them. Butat the end of the day, as
Joe Tansey was saying last week,they're just like Penn State. They're going
to beat the piss out of thesebad teams and against these really good teams.

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That's where they're going to struggle.A lot of pissing on today,
And today's a lot of piss anda lot of playing with our food today.
I like it though. I likeit all right, right, let's
keep it moving from the card.Let's discuss one more here, and I
want to get into the Heisman Trophy. And wonder where you stand right now
if you had to give it outwith two to three games left for most
teams on their schedule, where wouldyou go right here, right now?

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And where do you see this ending? Up at the end after the award
is given out in New York City. So I think the most deserving player,
if you're just going to do thebest player in college football, is
Jaden Daniels right now at plus threetwenty. He's just been so dynamic and
everything he's done this year and hasjust been kind of slighted, I guess

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by by the poor defense that LSUhas. And I don't understand why this
is being called like a team awardbecause Caleb Williams went nine to three last
year and he's still won the trophy. So I don't think that record should
be held against Jayden Daniels, andit's not like he hasn't played well in
the games that he's lost. ButI think it's actually at the end of
the day, I think it's goingto wind up going to Michael Pennix because

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what he does for Washington, especiallyif they do find a way to run
the table, he is what makesthem go. When you look at Oregon
as my thing with them all year, they're such a good balance team where
if bo Nicks doesn't go out thereand throw for three hundred yards, they
can still win a game by twotouchdowns because of that running game that they
have Washington. They need Michael Pennixto go out there and play perfect each

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and every week to win those games, because that's what that offense is built,
are out him slinging the ball aroundthe yard. They don't really run
the football. Also, I thinkthat's who is going to wind up winning
it. I think he is actuallythe most valuable if we're going to take
into account the overall team record aswell, and if you can get a
dart on him right now at plusthree eighty, I think it's kind of
worth it. I got bo Knicksat plus six hundred before that Washington Oregon

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game, so I'm kind of rootingfor him to prevail and win the trophy.
But I think Michael Penis is goingto sway some of the voters by
the end if they are able torun that table. Yeah. I put
out a video today from yesterday's showwhere I said it's either going to go
to one of the juniors, Pennocksjunior or Marvin Harrison Junior. I think
if Ohio State runs a table beatsMichigan, they're not doing it without a

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healthy dose of Marvin Harrison Junior.In that game and no matter what,
he's going to have and I likehim to really make it difficult. But
Pennix has had that Heisman Trophy momentin my opinion. I know he had
two throws against USC. I thinkhe had a throw against Utah, like
he's had a couple wow highlights,right, And Jayden Daniels has got great

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numbers. Nobody is here to argueagainst him, but he's not blowing Pennicks
completely out of the water with thestats he's in this ballpark. And oh,
by the way, one team's undefeated, one team has three losses.
So that's why I give the nodright now to Pennix. I know it's
not a team award, I getit, but it's just the way the
voters are going to look at it. So for me plus three eighty on

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Pinnis or plus four seventy five orMarvin Erzer Junior. Absolutely, I will
say this though, I do believethat if they do lose to Oregon in
that Pack twelve championship game could verywell be the difference. So yeah,
you also have this week Michael Pennick'splaying at Oregon State, like he could
go out there if they Leah clunker, he doesn't play well, they lose.

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He's completely out of it. Ithink then then you fast forward to
next week. I mean we talkedabout with Bonix with Oregon plan Arizona.
This week should be a good win, should be a good way to pad
the stats. But then next weekhe has Oregon State, which is in
the same spot. Your your biggestrival in your conference, Oregon and Oregon
State. Organ's leaving the conference.We got one more chance to kind of
knock him out before that rivalry hasgone. Can we do it? Organ

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State's going to be playing more motivatedthan ever, So Oregon State has really
the potential to ruin both of thoseguys Heisman cases last week, and you
said Marvin Harrison goes out there andexplodes these next two weeks, he could
find himself winning the trophy as well. It's just so uncommon for a wide
receiver to win. I mean,before DeVante Smith, I forget the last
receiver to win the award. Wellyour facts, and DeVante hasn't or Marvin

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Harrison Junior doesn't have the numbers thatDevon to put up either. But I
just think it's going to be sucha focal point. I do think this
award is wide open? Like,yeah, you're hearing a lot of people
make the case for Jaden Daniels.Cool. I just don't see him winning
it. Like I said, likehis numbers are crazy. They're better than
Burrows. He scored three touchdowns andhow many straight games. I get it,
but you know this is NeXT's number. Both Knicks's numbers are ridiculous.

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Yeah, I think though, ifyou look at just the past few weeks,
I don't remember it really flip floppingthis much in recent years. I
mean, Dylan Gabriel and JJ McCarthytwo weeks ago were tied for your recond
overall. I think McCarthy was actuallythe favorite man's favorite for a week.
Yeah, and McCarthy and gabriel wereright up there, like right before McCarthy
became the favorite. It feels likelast year was pretty much Caleb Williams Award

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to lose from the second half ofthe season on. All right, last
question for me, speaking of Michigan, Michigan and Ohio State. Will Michigan
be able to run the football likethey get did against the Penn State.
Will they be able to do thatagainst Ohio State? In your opinion,
So the weird thing with that is, if you remember the first three possessions

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of that game, Penn State wasshutting them down. I mean, I
remember the graphic being up on thescreen. I think they had like negative
three rushing yards on their first ninecarries or something. And then they found
a way to get to the outsideso they got their signals. Yeah,
they must have got something right.But they found a way to get to
the outside on Penn State and bursta few runs there. But Penn State

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coming into the year, was cominginto this game was amazing on the ground,
and Ohio State's been as well.So I think Ohio State's really going
to evaluate Michigan, see what theykind of exploited, what that adjustment they
made against Penn State was, andfind a way to stop that. But
I don't think that they're going toget pushed around that much. But they
have the past few years. Butthis is a different Ohio State defense identity

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wise than we've seen the past fewseasons. Well, only a few games
left and we got a lot todiscuss over these next couple weeks, a
lot to figure out, and ofcourse we got bull season fast approaching.
We got to come up with ourcompetition in house, we got a belt
that we compete for. I believeI forget who has the belt. That's
a bad job by me. Who'sgot the belt from last year? Oh

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my goodness. The first time Ithought about it, Tko Tim O'Keefe had
it a ton had at the start. There's a there's a bold championship belt
out there on the line, allright. So we got that coming up
here, and of course we're gonnabe doing a lot more Bowl season and
looking forward to it, of coursewith Ryan Coyle, mister Beef upfront himself.
Ryan, favorite play this week?Though, favorite play this week,

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I will go put me on thespot. Give me Georgia minus ten and
a half. I think Tennessee's dead, and I think Georgia just finds a
way to end their season in theirown house. All right. Final thoughts
anything on your chest you'd like toget off at this point in time,
Ryan Coyle, I don't really rememberthe past few seasons. I guess the

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amount of openness still as were thislate in the season, like it feels
like the past few years there wasonly four or five teams. Really in
consideration, I think that there's stillseven or eight potentially that could find their
way into the dance. So it'sgoing to be an exciting final four.
And I'm really hoping that there's oneof those letdowns this week to really add
kind of another wrinkle into everything.Be a lot of fun. It would

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be a lot of fun to seea team slip up right here right now.
We got two weeks, hopefully wecan get some of that. I
want to see some anur key babyall right. For beef upfront, I
am Sean Bracey is Ryan Coyle.Be sure to check us out all things
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FOXPHL Gambler dot com. Good luckon all your plays. We'll talk to

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you next week.