December 11, 2024 • 21 mins
Brady and Dan talk about the things that really tested our patience. If you were to build a time capsule in 1995, what would go in it? We went back to a simpler time, and a time where nothing was high-speed. Enjoy the podcast friends!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Number eight. This is hit Me Brady one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands,
the movies.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
The music.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
They are of course jingjab smawty scary bybeush Cord.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Why the awkwardness? I need to do a erhobic till
I dropped. Then I found fine Master.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Here's your host, Brady Broski. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It is
time again to unlock those memories that have been living
in your head rent free for all these decades. Deep
dives into the two thousands and nineties. I'm your host, Brady.
Hit Me Brady podcast is on and you can check
(00:48):
me out the radio stations across country on the iHeartRadio
for free. Not only do I have an extensive experience
in pop radio, but I'm also a bundle I would
say of use of knowledge when it comes to punk culture.
Opposite of me, a man who's not not useless at all. Today,
You're no, You're useful. You're very useful, and you're starting
(01:11):
to become as we do episode eight here the most
interesting man in the world. The things I'm learning about
you and I know nothing over a decade.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We've been friends for so long, yet Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It is the Kickball King, a man who somehow turns
eight crazy nights into eight crazy years. Dazzling Dan Ginsburg.
I am so excited. I have been studying all week
to talk about fashion. Let's do this. This is our
fashion episode. No, I forgot to tell you. Wait, what
if you're tuning in for our fashion episode? We are
(01:44):
not doing fashion today? What we are not doing fashion today?
What I thought we would wait because I still want
to do a little even more extensive research on that topic. Yeah,
and really really hit a grand slam when we talk
two thousands fashion that episode it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is gonna be next week. It'll happen next week
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So I apologize for all of you fans of fashion
that tuned in instead. You're getting this, and you know
because you clicked on the podcast right the title right there? Yeah,
and what did that title say? Title said things that
no longer exist? I love this topic. It's so fun.
We were texting and I'm like, we could probably have
and we're.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like, come up with one, and I'm like, can I
come up with thirty at least?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Because things change a lot, especially in our life. We
are a weird age, right, Like, we grew up in
a time where technology was a thing, right, but we
also know pre internet, pre social media, but got to
learn it right at a time where.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We weren't out of touch.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And you know, we now we know how to use it,
so we know what was like before.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We know it was like after right, Well, when.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We were a little kids, it was like it was
a thing, but it was like a very big, very
expensive thing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like you can have a little microSD chip in your
phone right now that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Holds like a billion times more data than like those
giant computers that filled this entire room did when we
were kids. How does that work? It's crazy, It's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So I have mine my one thing that no longer exists.
In doing my research for this, it actually I broke
the rules. They actually still exists. I didn't realize this,
but well that's I've actually found the same thing in
my research because despite.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That little bit, I actually did know the topic of
this episode in advance.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I would say a lot of the things I thought
of like technically still exists, but they're not like a
real thing anymore, or they're like a throwback thing. I
look at it as I have a thing that if
I were to ask a fifteen hero old, you know,
high schooler, they would look at me, what the hell
are you talking about? Right? Was that so that that's
kind of where I went with mine. She would just
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jump she would just jump into it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I want to hear yours.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay, say, I'm curious if we're going to have the
same one this time. Well, I told you to come
up with a few a bunch over there. Yeah, how
long are your notes prepared? I mean I've got like,
I literally have about thirty. But I mean I've got
my I got my one, I got another one I can.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Pivot to if it's the same. But let's see.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, Well I went with and this is this is
kind of the time capsule episode, right, this is something
you would put in a time capsule.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And today I want to talk about something that I
thought didn't exist. It still does, but I haven't seen
one in quite some time. And that would be the
phone book. Okay, Oh wow, that's great. The phone book.
When was the last time you saw a phone book?
All right, maybe not saw. When was the last time
it got delivered to you?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Deliver?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I feel like the first Chicago apartment I lived in,
which would have been the end of two thousand and nine.
I have a vague memory that there were still like
piles because it was a big apartment building, so that
they would just drop off like several dozen phone books
that no one would ever take.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And we're just sitting on the floor of the lobby.
So I'm going to say, like fifteen years yeah, same.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I wonder if my parents still have Yes, every parent
of our age still has phone books, and they have
it in the same spot that they've always had it,
right near the right, near the the the rotary phone
that used to exist over there, Yeah, the landline if
you will.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, I mean when we were kids, if you wanted
to call a friend, you looked up their last name
in the the white pages.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The white pages were for personal friends and people and
people like us residents. That was the residence section. The
yellow pages. It was kind of fifty to fifty were
the business rice.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right. This is where I.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Would spell alphabetically like you would have like electricians under
E and plumbers under P.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Pizza was my big one, and this was a way
we work in media.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
They probably sold the crap out of that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh yeah, because that like if you got your pizza
spot right there on the yellow pages, big old like
mister Pizza with arms and legs like dancing right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I feel all you. I feel like you could list
for free, but then you could pay extra for like.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
An ad and an image. More you paid, the bigger
your ad. So there was the white pages, there was
the yellow pages. Now weren't there pink pages too?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That doesn't make it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I swear to God, I'm going to google this maybe
now because we live in twenty twenty four and we
can google things.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I was gonna say, do you want to call
my mom and ask her if there's pink pages?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I've never heard of like in addition to white, yellow
ant So there's three that must have been. I swear
something was wrong with the paper makers that year. Maybe
they just ran out of yellows go pink. I don't know,
but I know I do know this.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I do know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It came to your home. It was it was free, right,
it came to your home once a year. I'm assuming
I think so about that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So what's wild to me is it was unless you
paid more, it was going to you were going to
have your phone number in the phone book, right, there's
no questions asked. No, you could opt you could like
opt out or like I remember, some people wouldn't put
their first and last name, like you'd see an initial
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and you'd have more of that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yes, I guess.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I mean I also don't think they had the same
like privacy concerns we have now.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, there wasn't as much stucking, I feel, But it's
a lot easier if you really liked, you know, Michelle Byron,
and you wanted to and you wanted to give her,
give her a call randomly out of nowhere, you would
go to you would go to the phone book and
you would go to the b's and there's Byron and
you know where she lived, and then there's her phone number,
and you would just call it up. Right, So that
(07:42):
I thought I found interesting. Also, I did not know this.
In two thousand and four, they were about to everybodys
starting to get cell phones and cell phone numbers. They
were about to the government was about to start including
cell phone numbers in the Oh wow, wow, imagine if
that happened, he said, Ah, now congress band wireless telephone
(08:03):
telephone directories.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, So the world as we know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It would have been way different if all of a sudden,
I mean, it would have been like it would have
been the size of I don't know this table or
the length of this table in here.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
If you had a phone book with every way.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well yeah, it was one number for the family back
then too. Obviously we didn't all have our own phones
and our own numbers.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
There was also several things that a lot of people,
my family included, use the phone book for that wasn't
looking up numbers. You'd use it if there was a
young relative coming over, as like a like a high stool. Yeah,
just sit on it. If you needed to kill the spider,
you'd have to be quick, cause well spiders are kind
of slow.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, but we made that reach. Was your phone book big?
Oh yeah, it was probably four inches at least. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, phone books the now they still exist remember why?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Okay, yeah, I mean does But who's making who's using them?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
How about this?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Over six hundred and fifty thousand tons of phone books
are still delivered as of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That means nothing to me.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Oh, I don't know how like how many tons were
delivered in nineteen ninety they're thinner.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They're thinner, so less tons, for sure. It's the same thing.
It's just it's thinner because there's less landline numbers, right,
And I doubt that anybody's spending any kind of ad
money for their businesses in there because nobody's going to
that now.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
They just it's it's usually like social.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Media or if we're lucky, radio so so yeah, so
they're definitely thinner. One third of them are recycled. That's
not a lot. It seems like it's sad, very low.
But yeah, but so there's there. They're thinner now. They
have fewer names in numbers than in the past as
far as content is concerned. Phone books have instructions for
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dialing numbers. This is how you do itenc services, utilities, hospitals,
and doctors.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's I laugh at that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But when I was home for Thanksgiving, I picked up
my parents landline to call my mom because she was
out running an errand yeah, and I had to stop
and think, wait, like, how do I dial a phone
number on this something that we did every day? You know,
It's funny now that I think about it. Really, I
did not use the white pages that often to call
(10:24):
a friend or somebody I knew you knew the number,
but knew I still know my my best friend's numbers
from childhood. I couldn't tell you. Like my close friends today,
I have no idea what their numbers because you just
click their name on your phone.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You were to ask me right now, what is your
smoke show wife's phone nighter?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I know there's a six in there, three too, there's
a three.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I think there was probably a three in the area code,
in the air code.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But if you asked me what John Charwick's remember from
from sixth grade, I could sell right now. Yeah, one
three to eight nine five nine six.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, don't call them or do or they probably got
rid of.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I think I think his parents still sorry, sorry mister,
but yeah, it's so so we memorized the numbers, so
we didn't really use.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The right pages. There is one.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you had speed dials too that you would program
in those old phones. That was advanced. That was so
advanced for the times. There was one use of the
white pages that I shouldn't admit, but the hell, let's
do it. Sometimes we would use the white pages to
prank prank calls.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Prank calls still a thing. My niece. If she listens
to this is is gonna hate me? Why not? Really?
I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
She got in a little bit of trouble for accidentally
prank calling an international country the other day.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh no, yeah, but they still do that. The kids
still do that these days. I mean no, no, bad,
bad example, Brady, don't set that example. So she called
an international number number ends.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, I'm you know, we got a family plan because
it's so much cheaper for everyone, and I'm the one
responsible for checking the bill, and there was a two
dollars charge and I had to dig into it, and
it turned out there was a series of unknown numbers dialed.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Including one to the country of Columbia.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Two dollars to call Columbia. That's in these days. For
a minute, So, okay, how old is your niece? She's twelve,
prime prime prank calling age. Oh yeah, we were doing
that all the time. What do you know the context
of the call? I'm very curious.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't know. I think I've now told you everything
I know as a guest.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now, twelve year olds in twenty twenty four are saying
when they're pranking, But everybody, now, when you when you
prank call somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I can't believe it's turned into prank call. They see
your number, so.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You can't know that's Star six seven or six seven
still thing it is.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know you can do Star six seven on a
cell phone. I don't do that. I don't either.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I feel like for there was some reason why I
was like calling a company years ago, and I like
googled this and learned it. But you can type out
a phone number in your cell phone and put Star
six seven in front of the number and it'll call
that number, but not show them who's calling.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Also, I don't call people right right. I call my
parents and my sister once a week list unless, like
you know, I'm in trouble with my boss, then the
phone call happens there. But yeah, for the most part,
we're just texting. We're texting. So that's another reason probably
why these phone books are. I think of the past.
So that's what I'm putting if we go back to
the nineties, That's what I'm putting in my top time capsule,
(13:23):
This big ass phone book that nobody love it reads anymore,
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's mine. What's yours?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So before I jump into mind, let me real briefly
tell you what my backup was gonna be, because it's
very related to yours. Paper maps. Yes, also a thing
that I'm sure technically still exists. It is such a
generational thing. Like kids in twenty twenty four think we
sound one hundred when we talk about the fact that,
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like if we wanted, if I wanted to figure out
how to get to your house, I needed to actually
pull up a map of this area Chicago and like
figure out a route, unfold it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's as big as the car. Now you're now you're
putting yourself in danger because you're reading this. And yeah,
if you got lost, you'd have to like find a
street sign in a cross street and then figure out
on the map where you went wrong. I got two things.
Map Quest Yeah changed the game.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That's great. Yeah, you would print it right, you print it.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And then still if you made a wrong turn, you
would still have to go back to the paper map
at that point. And the other thing is GPS obviously
changed the whole map game. I have lived in Chicago
now for over eleven years, and without GPS, I wouldn't
know the names of streets I'm on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I wouldn't know nobody the way around anything anymore because
we just rely on our phone. Yes, yes, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Like people tell me where, oh yeah, meet me in
this suburb or wherever, and I said, okay, cool, yeah
you know it's it's west of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm like, I could have told me it was south.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I wouldn't have known. Okay, so that's where tells you
to turn. So that's your audible mention. Yeah, so so
here's mine.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Dial up Internet.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
The worst, I think our first or second opening. You
had a clip of the sound that everyone in our
generation knows that you used to hear when it actually
connected to the internet.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But you used to for for.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Our younger listeners, if you could, if you could, before
you go any further, mimic that, okay, okay, let me
clear my throat. You sounded like two dogs that were
about to murder.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I lost my voice. Yes, it sounded that bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
arguably worse, and actually I think mine was worse. No, So,
for our younger listeners, you used to.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
If you wanted to connect to the Internet, you used
to have to do it through a phone that was
connected to your computer, and you could not make or
receive phone calls. For the whole time that you were
connected to the internet. Busy signal yep.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
In fact, as kids, when my sister and I were
in middle school, we invested in a second phone line
for our house because between my dad using the Internet
for work and my sister and me talking on the
phone to our friends at school and wanting to go
on the internet sometimes for school or fun, we are
(16:25):
we had a busy signal on our one shared landline
phone too often, and so we got a second phone
line so that we could dial up on one line
and still receive phone calls on the other.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Something had to give. Yeah, you can all share the
the one phone line for all the things.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That we're having.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
No, there's no way, because we were on the internet
most nights, and then you couldn't talk on the phone.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How about how incredibly slow, right it was when you
actually finally dialed up, and then you are there and
there's your AOL homepage, and.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, you've got mail? You would have it?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Would you would wait at least a minute? Yeah, to
get to a website.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, we talked a little on the Napster episode, but
I mean to download one MP three might be half
an hour? Yeah, Yeah, to download a thirty second video
might be a few hours.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And again if you're on dial up, your phone can't
be you can't be reached. We didn't have cell phones,
so if you wanted to get a hold of me,
you're just gonna get a busy signal for three hours
because I'm downloading some thirty second clip of Britney Spears
singing sometimes on a pier.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That's what I was going to ask you is what
is the content you were looking at in these early
dial up internet days.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's where were you browsing?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean, well, another thing I had on my list
was AOL instant messenger, so good, Oh, we'll do an episodes. Yeah,
But I mean so much of the online time was
that it was chat. It was just very primitive like
chet rooms, yeah, chat rooms, chat chatting with your friends.
A lot of it was that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, we didn't use it like obviously we do today. No,
but I don't even think early internet dial up Internet
was used for research purposes. Really, it was more interest.
It was they're more entertainment.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I do you.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Remember searching went before Google? Because we were escape there
was Alta Vista, yes, uh ask Jeeves rip Yeah, my man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It was.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We take for granted now like how amazing Google is
and that you search for the most poorly you do
the most poorly worded search ever, and somehow it knows
exactly what you want.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Scary.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It used to be there wasn't that much information out there,
and it was very hard to find the information that
you wanted, so you couldn't really research. I mean for
a long time, even after the Internet existed, it was
more efficient to like go to the library and get
the encyclopedia needed than it was to try to find
some factual information on the internet. How long did it
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take from the time you started cranked up you cranked
it up the dial up to the time it actually
connected for you?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I want to say it. I feel like it was.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
A minute to dial up and then another minute for
some data stuff to happen in the background before you
could actually do anything, which tells us how much patience
we had, because in today's wow, like you've been google
something in that you don't have the result in five seconds,
Like what is wrong with the cell phone company right now?
Oh my god, is Google down? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh? Here it is?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Okay, We're good. Yeah, oh, yeah, okay, well that's a
good one.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, it's dial I wonder if dial up technically still exists.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's a great question. Why don't you ask Google? Oh yeah,
it was very slow. It was very slow, but you
know it was the good thing about dial up internet
at that time, in the early onset of internet in general,
is there are not many viruses.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
No, I don't think it was risky to because I
was watching it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I was looking at a lot of porn.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
In on that note, dial up does still exist. Apparently
it does.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You looked it up, just in primitive countries that have
not don't have the infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
So well, happy web browsing. Don't take it for granted
what you got. And also don't take for granted that
you have all of your phone numbers saved on your
phone or you could just google Rilio's pizza and there
it is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You don't have to go to a book. Wasn't always
a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Uh, that's it for this episode. Next week we are
doing fashion. Fashion causes fashion. We're definitely gonna do it.
We're not going to change the topic. No, we would never.
And if you love what you're hearing on the podcast,
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Radio and I'm Dan on Instagram Dan G zero four
eight too, and we'll talk next time, La
Number eight. This is hit Me Brady one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'll look back on all things nineties and two thousands,
the movies.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
The music.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
They are of course jingjab smawty scary bybeush Cord.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Why the awkwardness? I need to do a erhobic till
I dropped. Then I found fine Master.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Here's your host, Brady Broski. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It is
time again to unlock those memories that have been living
in your head rent free for all these decades. Deep
dives into the two thousands and nineties. I'm your host, Brady.
Hit Me Brady podcast is on and you can check
(00:48):
me out the radio stations across country on the iHeartRadio
for free. Not only do I have an extensive experience
in pop radio, but I'm also a bundle I would
say of use of knowledge when it comes to punk culture.
Opposite of me, a man who's not not useless at all. Today,
You're no, You're useful. You're very useful, and you're starting
(01:11):
to become as we do episode eight here the most
interesting man in the world. The things I'm learning about
you and I know nothing over a decade.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We've been friends for so long, yet Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It is the Kickball King, a man who somehow turns
eight crazy nights into eight crazy years. Dazzling Dan Ginsburg.
I am so excited. I have been studying all week
to talk about fashion. Let's do this. This is our
fashion episode. No, I forgot to tell you. Wait, what
if you're tuning in for our fashion episode? We are
(01:44):
not doing fashion today? What we are not doing fashion today?
What I thought we would wait because I still want
to do a little even more extensive research on that topic. Yeah,
and really really hit a grand slam when we talk
two thousands fashion that episode it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is gonna be next week. It'll happen next week
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So I apologize for all of you fans of fashion
that tuned in instead. You're getting this, and you know
because you clicked on the podcast right the title right there? Yeah,
and what did that title say? Title said things that
no longer exist? I love this topic. It's so fun.
We were texting and I'm like, we could probably have
and we're.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like, come up with one, and I'm like, can I
come up with thirty at least?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Because things change a lot, especially in our life. We
are a weird age, right, Like, we grew up in
a time where technology was a thing, right, but we
also know pre internet, pre social media, but got to
learn it right at a time where.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We weren't out of touch.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And you know, we now we know how to use it,
so we know what was like before.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We know it was like after right, Well, when.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We were a little kids, it was like it was
a thing, but it was like a very big, very
expensive thing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like you can have a little microSD chip in your
phone right now that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Holds like a billion times more data than like those
giant computers that filled this entire room did when we
were kids. How does that work? It's crazy, It's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So I have mine my one thing that no longer exists.
In doing my research for this, it actually I broke
the rules. They actually still exists. I didn't realize this,
but well that's I've actually found the same thing in
my research because despite.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That little bit, I actually did know the topic of
this episode in advance.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I would say a lot of the things I thought
of like technically still exists, but they're not like a
real thing anymore, or they're like a throwback thing. I
look at it as I have a thing that if
I were to ask a fifteen hero old, you know,
high schooler, they would look at me, what the hell
are you talking about? Right? Was that so that that's
kind of where I went with mine. She would just
(03:55):
jump she would just jump into it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I want to hear yours.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay, say, I'm curious if we're going to have the
same one this time. Well, I told you to come
up with a few a bunch over there. Yeah, how
long are your notes prepared? I mean I've got like,
I literally have about thirty. But I mean I've got
my I got my one, I got another one I can.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Pivot to if it's the same. But let's see.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, Well I went with and this is this is
kind of the time capsule episode, right, this is something
you would put in a time capsule.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And today I want to talk about something that I
thought didn't exist. It still does, but I haven't seen
one in quite some time. And that would be the
phone book. Okay, Oh wow, that's great. The phone book.
When was the last time you saw a phone book?
All right, maybe not saw. When was the last time
it got delivered to you?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Deliver?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I feel like the first Chicago apartment I lived in,
which would have been the end of two thousand and nine.
I have a vague memory that there were still like
piles because it was a big apartment building, so that
they would just drop off like several dozen phone books
that no one would ever take.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And we're just sitting on the floor of the lobby.
So I'm going to say, like fifteen years yeah, same.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I wonder if my parents still have Yes, every parent
of our age still has phone books, and they have
it in the same spot that they've always had it,
right near the right, near the the the rotary phone
that used to exist over there, Yeah, the landline if
you will.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, I mean when we were kids, if you wanted
to call a friend, you looked up their last name
in the the white pages.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The white pages were for personal friends and people and
people like us residents. That was the residence section. The
yellow pages. It was kind of fifty to fifty were
the business rice.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right. This is where I.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Would spell alphabetically like you would have like electricians under
E and plumbers under P.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Pizza was my big one, and this was a way
we work in media.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
They probably sold the crap out of that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh yeah, because that like if you got your pizza
spot right there on the yellow pages, big old like
mister Pizza with arms and legs like dancing right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I feel all you. I feel like you could list
for free, but then you could pay extra for like.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
An ad and an image. More you paid, the bigger
your ad. So there was the white pages, there was
the yellow pages. Now weren't there pink pages too?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That doesn't make it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I swear to God, I'm going to google this maybe
now because we live in twenty twenty four and we
can google things.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I was gonna say, do you want to call
my mom and ask her if there's pink pages?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I've never heard of like in addition to white, yellow
ant So there's three that must have been. I swear
something was wrong with the paper makers that year. Maybe
they just ran out of yellows go pink. I don't know,
but I know I do know this.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I do know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It came to your home. It was it was free, right,
it came to your home once a year. I'm assuming
I think so about that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So what's wild to me is it was unless you
paid more, it was going to you were going to
have your phone number in the phone book, right, there's
no questions asked. No, you could opt you could like
opt out or like I remember, some people wouldn't put
their first and last name, like you'd see an initial
(07:14):
and you'd have more of that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yes, I guess.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I mean I also don't think they had the same
like privacy concerns we have now.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, there wasn't as much stucking, I feel, But it's
a lot easier if you really liked, you know, Michelle Byron,
and you wanted to and you wanted to give her,
give her a call randomly out of nowhere, you would
go to you would go to the phone book and
you would go to the b's and there's Byron and
you know where she lived, and then there's her phone number,
and you would just call it up. Right, So that
(07:42):
I thought I found interesting. Also, I did not know this.
In two thousand and four, they were about to everybodys
starting to get cell phones and cell phone numbers. They
were about to the government was about to start including
cell phone numbers in the Oh wow, wow, imagine if
that happened, he said, Ah, now congress band wireless telephone
(08:03):
telephone directories.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, So the world as we know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It would have been way different if all of a sudden,
I mean, it would have been like it would have
been the size of I don't know this table or
the length of this table in here.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
If you had a phone book with every way.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well yeah, it was one number for the family back
then too. Obviously we didn't all have our own phones
and our own numbers.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
There was also several things that a lot of people,
my family included, use the phone book for that wasn't
looking up numbers. You'd use it if there was a
young relative coming over, as like a like a high stool. Yeah,
just sit on it. If you needed to kill the spider,
you'd have to be quick, cause well spiders are kind
of slow.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, but we made that reach. Was your phone book big?
Oh yeah, it was probably four inches at least. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, phone books the now they still exist remember why?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Okay, yeah, I mean does But who's making who's using them?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
How about this?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Over six hundred and fifty thousand tons of phone books
are still delivered as of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That means nothing to me.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Oh, I don't know how like how many tons were
delivered in nineteen ninety they're thinner.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They're thinner, so less tons, for sure. It's the same thing.
It's just it's thinner because there's less landline numbers, right,
And I doubt that anybody's spending any kind of ad
money for their businesses in there because nobody's going to
that now.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
They just it's it's usually like social.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Media or if we're lucky, radio so so yeah, so
they're definitely thinner. One third of them are recycled. That's
not a lot. It seems like it's sad, very low.
But yeah, but so there's there. They're thinner now. They
have fewer names in numbers than in the past as
far as content is concerned. Phone books have instructions for
(09:57):
dialing numbers. This is how you do itenc services, utilities, hospitals,
and doctors.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's I laugh at that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But when I was home for Thanksgiving, I picked up
my parents landline to call my mom because she was
out running an errand yeah, and I had to stop
and think, wait, like, how do I dial a phone
number on this something that we did every day? You know,
It's funny now that I think about it. Really, I
did not use the white pages that often to call
(10:24):
a friend or somebody I knew you knew the number,
but knew I still know my my best friend's numbers
from childhood. I couldn't tell you. Like my close friends today,
I have no idea what their numbers because you just
click their name on your phone.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You were to ask me right now, what is your
smoke show wife's phone nighter?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I know there's a six in there, three too, there's
a three.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I think there was probably a three in the area code,
in the air code.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But if you asked me what John Charwick's remember from
from sixth grade, I could sell right now. Yeah, one
three to eight nine five nine six.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, don't call them or do or they probably got
rid of.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I think I think his parents still sorry, sorry mister,
but yeah, it's so so we memorized the numbers, so
we didn't really use.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The right pages. There is one.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you had speed dials too that you would program
in those old phones. That was advanced. That was so
advanced for the times. There was one use of the
white pages that I shouldn't admit, but the hell, let's
do it. Sometimes we would use the white pages to
prank prank calls.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Prank calls still a thing. My niece. If she listens
to this is is gonna hate me? Why not? Really?
I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
She got in a little bit of trouble for accidentally
prank calling an international country the other day.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh no, yeah, but they still do that. The kids
still do that these days. I mean no, no, bad,
bad example, Brady, don't set that example. So she called
an international number number ends.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, I'm you know, we got a family plan because
it's so much cheaper for everyone, and I'm the one
responsible for checking the bill, and there was a two
dollars charge and I had to dig into it, and
it turned out there was a series of unknown numbers dialed.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Including one to the country of Columbia.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Two dollars to call Columbia. That's in these days. For
a minute, So, okay, how old is your niece? She's twelve,
prime prime prank calling age. Oh yeah, we were doing
that all the time. What do you know the context
of the call? I'm very curious.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't know. I think I've now told you everything
I know as a guest.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now, twelve year olds in twenty twenty four are saying
when they're pranking, But everybody, now, when you when you
prank call somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I can't believe it's turned into prank call. They see
your number, so.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You can't know that's Star six seven or six seven
still thing it is.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know you can do Star six seven on a
cell phone. I don't do that. I don't either.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I feel like for there was some reason why I
was like calling a company years ago, and I like
googled this and learned it. But you can type out
a phone number in your cell phone and put Star
six seven in front of the number and it'll call
that number, but not show them who's calling.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Also, I don't call people right right. I call my
parents and my sister once a week list unless, like
you know, I'm in trouble with my boss, then the
phone call happens there. But yeah, for the most part,
we're just texting. We're texting. So that's another reason probably
why these phone books are. I think of the past.
So that's what I'm putting if we go back to
the nineties, That's what I'm putting in my top time capsule,
(13:23):
This big ass phone book that nobody love it reads anymore,
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's mine. What's yours?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So before I jump into mind, let me real briefly
tell you what my backup was gonna be, because it's
very related to yours. Paper maps. Yes, also a thing
that I'm sure technically still exists. It is such a
generational thing. Like kids in twenty twenty four think we
sound one hundred when we talk about the fact that,
(13:51):
like if we wanted, if I wanted to figure out
how to get to your house, I needed to actually
pull up a map of this area Chicago and like
figure out a route, unfold it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's as big as the car. Now you're now you're
putting yourself in danger because you're reading this. And yeah,
if you got lost, you'd have to like find a
street sign in a cross street and then figure out
on the map where you went wrong. I got two things.
Map Quest Yeah changed the game.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That's great. Yeah, you would print it right, you print it.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And then still if you made a wrong turn, you
would still have to go back to the paper map
at that point. And the other thing is GPS obviously
changed the whole map game. I have lived in Chicago
now for over eleven years, and without GPS, I wouldn't
know the names of streets I'm on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I wouldn't know nobody the way around anything anymore because
we just rely on our phone. Yes, yes, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Like people tell me where, oh yeah, meet me in
this suburb or wherever, and I said, okay, cool, yeah
you know it's it's west of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm like, I could have told me it was south.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I wouldn't have known. Okay, so that's where tells you
to turn. So that's your audible mention. Yeah, so so
here's mine.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Dial up Internet.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
The worst, I think our first or second opening. You
had a clip of the sound that everyone in our
generation knows that you used to hear when it actually
connected to the internet.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But you used to for for.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Our younger listeners, if you could, if you could, before
you go any further, mimic that, okay, okay, let me
clear my throat. You sounded like two dogs that were
about to murder.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I lost my voice. Yes, it sounded that bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
arguably worse, and actually I think mine was worse. No, So,
for our younger listeners, you used to.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
If you wanted to connect to the Internet, you used
to have to do it through a phone that was
connected to your computer, and you could not make or
receive phone calls. For the whole time that you were
connected to the internet. Busy signal yep.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
In fact, as kids, when my sister and I were
in middle school, we invested in a second phone line
for our house because between my dad using the Internet
for work and my sister and me talking on the
phone to our friends at school and wanting to go
on the internet sometimes for school or fun, we are
(16:25):
we had a busy signal on our one shared landline
phone too often, and so we got a second phone
line so that we could dial up on one line
and still receive phone calls on the other.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Something had to give. Yeah, you can all share the
the one phone line for all the things.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That we're having.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
No, there's no way, because we were on the internet
most nights, and then you couldn't talk on the phone.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How about how incredibly slow, right it was when you
actually finally dialed up, and then you are there and
there's your AOL homepage, and.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, you've got mail? You would have it?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Would you would wait at least a minute? Yeah, to
get to a website.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, we talked a little on the Napster episode, but
I mean to download one MP three might be half
an hour? Yeah, Yeah, to download a thirty second video
might be a few hours.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And again if you're on dial up, your phone can't
be you can't be reached. We didn't have cell phones,
so if you wanted to get a hold of me,
you're just gonna get a busy signal for three hours
because I'm downloading some thirty second clip of Britney Spears
singing sometimes on a pier.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That's what I was going to ask you is what
is the content you were looking at in these early
dial up internet days.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's where were you browsing?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean, well, another thing I had on my list
was AOL instant messenger, so good, Oh, we'll do an episodes. Yeah,
But I mean so much of the online time was
that it was chat. It was just very primitive like
chet rooms, yeah, chat rooms, chat chatting with your friends.
A lot of it was that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, we didn't use it like obviously we do today. No,
but I don't even think early internet dial up Internet
was used for research purposes. Really, it was more interest.
It was they're more entertainment.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I do you.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Remember searching went before Google? Because we were escape there
was Alta Vista, yes, uh ask Jeeves rip Yeah, my man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It was.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We take for granted now like how amazing Google is
and that you search for the most poorly you do
the most poorly worded search ever, and somehow it knows
exactly what you want.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Scary.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It used to be there wasn't that much information out there,
and it was very hard to find the information that
you wanted, so you couldn't really research. I mean for
a long time, even after the Internet existed, it was
more efficient to like go to the library and get
the encyclopedia needed than it was to try to find
some factual information on the internet. How long did it
(19:06):
take from the time you started cranked up you cranked
it up the dial up to the time it actually
connected for you?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I want to say it. I feel like it was.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
A minute to dial up and then another minute for
some data stuff to happen in the background before you
could actually do anything, which tells us how much patience
we had, because in today's wow, like you've been google
something in that you don't have the result in five seconds,
Like what is wrong with the cell phone company right now?
Oh my god, is Google down? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh? Here it is?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Okay, We're good. Yeah, oh, yeah, okay, well that's a
good one.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, it's dial I wonder if dial up technically still exists.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's a great question. Why don't you ask Google? Oh yeah,
it was very slow. It was very slow, but you
know it was the good thing about dial up internet
at that time, in the early onset of internet in general,
is there are not many viruses.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
No, I don't think it was risky to because I
was watching it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I was looking at a lot of porn.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
In on that note, dial up does still exist. Apparently
it does.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You looked it up, just in primitive countries that have
not don't have the infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
So well, happy web browsing. Don't take it for granted
what you got. And also don't take for granted that
you have all of your phone numbers saved on your
phone or you could just google Rilio's pizza and there
it is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You don't have to go to a book. Wasn't always
a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Uh, that's it for this episode. Next week we are
doing fashion. Fashion causes fashion. We're definitely gonna do it.
We're not going to change the topic. No, we would never.
And if you love what you're hearing on the podcast,
of course, like follow subscribe, share all the things you
can do with podcasts. There's a bunch out there, so
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(20:54):
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