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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, alright, all right, we are out of Cali
to say we're in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
State of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Is that correct? My name?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Just watch the commanders pull up.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Probably one of the most crazy wins I've seen in
my life in person ever.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To be honest with you, Mike, good to see.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You, miss you.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm going juice.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We have teammates wing through tonight. Start a song.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, man, first and foremost, man, love to see you, man,
love to love to supply o guy frank By. Yeah,
so let's just get it going with my boy Don Hampton. Yo, Man,
I got to say. I can't say enough about this guy.
You know, rookie, great rookie man makes plays turn the
linebacker in seven days and as a dB. But yeah, man,
(00:48):
we'll get into it later on the pod. But man,
just say what's up to the people. Man, what's going
on people? Dom Hampton? I just say where I'm from
and so over to thank you. Broever. Yeah, let's see dumb.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Okay, that was a good point there, Mike. So you
came in not playing linebacker.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Came in as a safety.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, came in as a safety. You played safety in college.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I played a lot of positions in college, okay, like
starting at corner then Nickel and I played safety four
a year.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
When you got told to day, I'm in the National
Football League playing safety. I need you to transition different
a whole different level right there. What was the mindset
like having to make that switch?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
At first?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It was I was sitting in my feelings a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'll talk about that, brocause that's easy.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah, I mean it was I kind of in my
own head.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I had to figure out the difference between like sympathy
and empathy and yeah, sympathy and empathy and just knowing
I can sit in this pocket that I'm in, which
is like me getting switched from positions, feeling like nobody's
still on the table for me, just understanding like if
I sit in this pocket and really understand what I'm doing,
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this can accelerate my growth or can halt it completely.
So I can either take this step and use it
as a stepping stone or I'm just gonna fall down
and you know, fall beneath my training, which I feel
like I'll never do.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What was something in your when you're deep in your
fields and you know that's kind of a lonely point,
you know what was kind of the kick and get
trigger that said, Nah, this is a challenge, a little adversity,
something that I wasn't expecting to do. But I'm built
like this. Let's let's let's get out of our fields.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Let's turn it on.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Now, my Savior of Jesus Christ man, I'm gonna be honest,
and then the Bible gets to me. When if I'm
really in a tough situation, I'll call my grandma. She
was she was preaching to me when I was a baby,
and I would just talk to her and She'll make
sure to get me through it, point me to a
specific verse that would resonate with what I'm doing and
situation I'm going through. So I would say the Bible
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was a big thing that got me through it. And
then for myself, I'm just self motivated. Like I wouldn't
have got here if I wasn't motivated. Mike knows that already,
Like we've gone through a lot just to get to
this point. It's almost luck and skill at the same time.
Like I know a lot of people that were skilled
in football that just didn't make you because the luck
wasn't there. So knowing I'm in this opportunity and I
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got my position moved, I can look at it like
nobody's still on the table for me. Or I can
look at it like I'm gonna make a true impact, you.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Know, man. I mean I could just say, like just
being to work with you every day, man, the passion,
the effort. I mean, did you put into this like
it means a lot? Man? Just I mean I'm on
your five. We got Bobby in the room, we got
Oose in the room, like guys who are way older
than you. But I mean just coming into work every
day with that. When I got moved from defensive end
the linebacker, it was a head wrong, but I took
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a whole springball to get done. Yeah, I see, I
watched you, dude in ten days. So like I'm saying,
I can't say nothing about you just coming in every day.
I mean I've took talked you off the ledge a
couple of times in the games. But I mean, I swear,
man's it's your mindset. But I think it's your mindset.
It's positive. I mean, you're touch drawing a lot to
these kids. But I mean a lot of guys trying
to get in the spot that you're in right now.
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I mean it just talk talk to us a little
bit about that, just how like every day, Like how
do you show up to work every day knowing like
I could be up anytime.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Shoot, it's crazy that you say that, because recently I've
been reading The Energy Bus by John Gordon, which my
coach Ken Norton to put me onto.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Shout out coach man the big influence.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But yeah, this book is just like all about positive
energy and knowing that you can control your path and life.
If you don't like the path that's being paved, you
can create a new one. So that's basically that's a quote.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
We had the other day in the linebacker meeting.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But yeah, it's just all about positive energy and bringing
people along and getting rid of people that are being
energy vampires. So keeping that positive energy going and making
sure like in my head, my perception is my reality.
So if I wake up and I'm like the sun shining,
even if it's not, I'm gonna have a good day.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I think that's very relevant in the sense too of like, Okay,
you know this show is called Bring the Juice.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Bring the Juice with something we are locker room, our
weight room.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We get fired up over as a slogan of like okay,
little flat today. Right, Sometimes you're not feeling the the
real momentum, right, juice is Hail Mary tip wind beats.
That is juice right right off the sideline turn, locker
room turret, just Awstroe turn. Like there isn't something outside
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of the game of football that can mimic that. I mean,
World Series, they somebody just hit a Freddie Freeman hit
a walk off Grand Slam a couple of nights ago.
That's juice, right, Yeah, those moments in sports, that's why
you play, bro, That's why you go through all the
achieve to get those little ten seconds spurts.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It makes everything worth it all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I know you've had a lot of different football
accolades where you've you've experienced that juice, but it really
is it's more than that. It's on the day when
you don't want to, when it's uh January and you're
not really feeling anymore body's hurting, or or now that
y'all in the league like April you probably should be
getting right, you know that o tas are starting up
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you know that, you know, you got to earn your
job every single year, and you were you're the new
cat on the block, right, Like it's cool that you
guys are in a room where everyone's iron sharp and.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ironing, like trying to elevate each other.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's not always the case in position groups, right, Sometimes
there's there's there's a there's a line between guys. But
if you could come to work every day, we're talking football, Like,
you could be an accountant, you could be a baker.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
My family farm's onions for a living, Like that's what
I do full time.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I still got to find ways to bring the
juice the way I did in athletics to the table.
And I think that's one thing that people really resonate
in this in like this platform is like you're a
professional football player. You guys ball out. You guys are
doing the damn thing. But you still can bring the
juice in anything you do in your life. Right, you
could apply that in different ways shapes and forms, always
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in forever, constantly, and you are exemplifying that. But you
mentioned books, what other books? What other forms of motivation
do you apply your life to kind of continue to
sharpen your your skill set, your mind.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So for myself, like I said, books, motivational videos would
be a big thing. Just get something to give me
fuel every every day. You know, some mornings, like you said,
it's harder to wake up and go do what you
want to do. So you need ninety three fuel that day,
you need premium fuel. And that's that's the days where
I pull out the motivational videos like oh you will
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rose growing through the concrete is Ikey Johnson, Like it's Ikey.
Those are the days I pull those videos up. But
normally I feel like I can. I can wake up
and kind of put myself in the mindset of it's
a work day, let's get some work done.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Take us through, just so for people to understand being
active is tough, right. You know, you got people in
your corner saying like, oh man, you're in the league,
Like you know, you're still getting game checks andever. But like,
as a competitive you want to play. Take us through
like you might not be on the field, but like
a day in practice, like I mean, you're getting the
most We talked about this the other day. You you
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have the most reps of every line back here on
the team. You know, what I'm saying, So like take
us through how you mentally prepare yourself to get through that,
or just like you know your inner thoughts. That's easy.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I take I to my Wednesday and my Thursday are
on my Super Bowls. Yeah, I go into practice like, yeah,
this is my game, and I take that mindset in
there and knowing that I'm gonna get better for Shure
and the person that's gonna have to stop me from
making places is gonna get better because you're not about
to just not try and stop me from doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So if I can cuss, you can tell Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So I mean it's mainly more of like a I
just I just try and come in on my on
my work days and really put in that work because
that's all I got.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know what I'm saying coming in from Arizona. What
was the competition like growing up in Arizona playing football?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Uh, it's it's underrated. Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's crazy that people don't think az got talent for real,
Like as got.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
People, what would you rank them in the States.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like obviously it's not Callie, it's not not Florida.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Florida's not a Georgia. It's better than Delaware.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
For showing Delaware in there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, he's from Delaware.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're through shot.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's better than Maine, beats South Dakota.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I'm gonna say Arizona's number seven seven seven. If you
can name six states, Arizona's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I'm not gonning to go order here, Kyllie, Texas, Florida, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Diama, Louisiana, Bama, Okay, Bama, Louisiana. Now what.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I would go Washington, I would go to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I would I would throw Colorado. I'm not elevation.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar enough to know.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, they got South Carolina, got some people. Yeah, naming
southern states. That's all y'all just did is? I said Colorado.
Let's name some such Okay, you did say Colorado. But realistically,
Arizona is top. Oh I'm not saying there's.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Arizona has its stocks. Arizona has its stalks.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
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Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, you got this, man said Colorado.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
He's obviously west coast. I say, Arizona obviously west coast.
Where are you from? Better? Yup? So you got the two?
Delaware is talking about pak.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm like, they got the d n V.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah. Are these schools?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I've never heard about it? Every I never heard about all?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Right, So AZ's top seven all left out on side
number seven? Growing up in AZ, is it your goal
to play in Arizona State or Arizona?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Why? Sword of kind of. I went to the coach
and I met him and he was like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
What was it at the time? Uh, Arizona was hermit?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
No, it wasn't herm it was before her, Yeah, but
I mean whoever it was. He was like, yeah, it's
gonna be Arizona versus everybody. And he told me that
while he was recruiting me.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like, we're gonna get every Arizona guy and we're gonna
beat everybody else in the country. I said, Bro said,
we're not gonna win, So I'm not I said, Bro,
if you're being serious, I'm not committing here.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Bro, we will lose every game, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Arizona's a top seven school, but there's a lot of
people in Cali, there's a lot of people in Texas,
and a lot of people in Florida. Eighty five percent
of those kids grow up dreaming to play at USC
or U c l A.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yes, so I think you, like, I'm not playing Arizona.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Half a roster wasn't at President State?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Half no, when you were there, Okay, yes, yes, half
a roster though, was dudes who got from LA. They
got denied to play at USC and U c l A,
and they came to President State. And that's why President
State constantly beats UCLA because they take that personal.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
And except when you were there and it was all yea, yeah,
we all.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Texas cats, tex cats, different different conversation. But why did
you end up going to UB?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I went to U DUB for like the heritage or
dvs that were putting in so like a couple of
years before I went there, they put like came out.
They had Yeah, they had people like Buddha, Rap, Sidney Jones,
Kevin King.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
We played them when they were three in the country. Yeah,
we felt that.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'm saying, like talent and the dB room has always
been elite, and I was just like, I really want
to be a part of this. So, like I told
you earlier, I came in as a corner and I
played corner for like three years and I learned a
lot there, moved to Nickel, learned there, and then safety
was like the combination of all of that coming together,
like corner and nickel, and then I just.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Liked to tackle. So it's kind of easy to go
play safety. Well, sticking on the college route, we have
a common guy. What our guy, Kaitlin de Boor talked
to us about his leadership and what.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
He brought to you that was a coaching change in
your area was yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, So the Boar came in a two years before. Yeah,
he came from Presno, we snatched him. Not gonna lie
but dirty.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, he came in my last two years and and
the boards leadership way was more of like a professional
so it was like, we're going to allow you to
come in and put in his work. He probably felt
a lot of that. He wasn't putting too many like
stipulations on what I can do with my time. But
it was like when you come in, it's worked on.
And it was a lot different than the coach I
had before that, which was like trying to control every
step you took, like you couldn't walk this way without
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him being like, no, walked that way, you know. So
it was a it was a big It was a
big change in culture. And I can appreciate his coaching
style for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Bye by talking about that and just him letting you
do your thing. What do you think the misconception or
what you know? Kind of going on with Alabama right now?
Without Nick saving, what do I want to get into it?
What do you mean like, why do you think they're
not having as much success? If you mean we we've
had Dubar he was great, you've had the bar. He
was great with Indiana, he got load.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This a loaded question here, bro Nick Saban, there before
facts and Nick Saban. Nick Saban, I will say this
best coach of all time in college football?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes, I agree, but.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Had they had in our error. That's the dynasty. That
is dynasty.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
They were the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
They were the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, the best of crisps.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm okay, But Mike, you say that we've brought this
up before. Do you think the dudes at Florida and
Tennessee and Georgia can't run forty times like they do
at Bama, can't jump like they do, can't do that.
There's a culture in college football where you got a
group of dudes eighteen to twenty two.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You come in fresh as hell.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You're used to being the dog of your high school.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right, you used to be in the all conference dude,
playing both ways most of the time.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And all of a sudden you come in.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You're you ain't bomb with the total pull out. You
got to re earn your spot. You got to re
earn your spot. All they do is they see ESPN
and they're like, man, Alabama's bad. I'm like, no, man,
they're going through some culture changes. I think, why are
the commanders good this year? Your culture is legit, like
it's openly. I tweet it constantly, like it's you could
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see it, And why do you think you won? Like
all right night, Like tonight, you guys probably could have
won by forty realistically, that's all should would it could
have though, right, But at the end of the day,
college football coaches have such a green group of guys.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They don't know how to act like professionals.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And that's why there's five stars that come in that
get beat out by walk ons because they can't handle
the pressure. They might be able to run a good
route or cover a guy one on one at a camp,
but they can't necessarily come every day and be on
time to meetings.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think it's about buying in, like we, yeah, you
we bought into it because we were doodo before he
got there with four and eight, so we like, we're
gonna buy into whatever walking is doing eleven, so you're
gonna buy into what he talked and he talking like, oh,
we really gonna win some big games, okay, And after
you start winning a couple you really get start believing.
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Just don't I don't believe Bama has believed it like
they should have, Like, yeah, they haven't bought into every
word the boys said. And I can just tell that
beout how they play. They see it on the sideline
they're playing like individuals too.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think there was such a culture with Nick Saban
and he read I saw he redesigned the office. Okay,
Nick Saban had this old school like man cave Dan.
I thought it was sick personally, but yeah, the old
old school, right, and then du Boy kind of put
a little bit more of like a new flair on it,
like an up a facelift in the room.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I don't think it's a bad thing, right.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And one of the reasons Saban got out of the
game is because the landscape of college football is changing
with nil and the way the transfer portals roll on.
Like Kirby Smart said it best, where it's hard to
create a culture in a locker room with guys who
are there two years, three years, four years, five years,
even because guys they might be one and done, they
might be a backup somewhere and their rival school is
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going to pay them a bag and they're jumping ship
because they're going to take back, right. But Nick Saban,
when that wasn't an element, he was able to get
guys who could be starters at other schools and buy
in and say, hey, you're gonna you're gonna be a
two for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You're gonna be a three when you play.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You're gonna have passion to be a gunner on punt
as a freshman, even though yeah, you're a five star
who could go start a lot of places and not
have to play punt.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But this is the way we do things. He had
to order of business. And I do think Debor is
going to.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Because he is a good coach, like a damn good
I think he will reclaim the Bama culture.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He'll get recreated. He's not gonna be nick shaving.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
My only thing is about the whole Alabama situation going on,
is okay, take a guy like Josh Jacobs, right and
this new nil do situation Now, Josh Jacobs sat on
the bench for like three years, four years, would he
a guy like him not hit the transfer portal nowadays?
One hundred percent? You know what I'm saying. So that
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is it's a holder like Bama. Bama has four deep,
five deep that everybody knows. The biggest thing in college
football is your ones are great, Your two are like
you know what I'm saying, Like your threes, I mean,
you know what I'm saying, Like, there's no such thing
in college football, BAMA has one used to have one, two, three, four,
Like you know what I'm saying. So that is the
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only thing I have on Like it's tough for guys
like Dubor because guys like Dubor in this new era
where it's like, I don't think Bama. I think Bama's
gonna make the playoffs. I think Bama's gonna take a
run hot college playoffs. I really do.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But my thing is, like it's tough. I mean, you
got left.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Let's say I got this guy three million dollars, but
someone's off for him ten. I mean, I'm not staying
in school for you know, you go offer me fifty
million dollars, I'm gone, you know what I'm saying. So
it's a whole situation to me, Like yeah, the Nick
Sabing area, I get it. But at the same time,
like if you're four strings as good as your damn
the one oh on the other team, Like we won
a lot of games. Yeah, So that's that's the one
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only part about him and Duboor. If you look at
his track record, he's been a winner Sioux Falls, Preside.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
State, even Indiana one year.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know what I'm saying, he's a winner. So I
think if the team, if the kids buy into what
he has, I think Alabama's gonna get back to what
the nick saban there it was I do.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So what would you say after us both having them,
I didn't have him as a head coach. I have
an other c my little brother at President State, they
had him as head coach. As a guy who had
him as a head coach, what do you think is
one thing where you're like, I think he's best in
the country at this.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
In other words, as coach Ken would say, what's a superpower?
His superpower is scheme. His superpower is having someone run
wide open. But at the end of the day, you
still got to make that throw. End of the day,
you still got to read that. You know what I'm saying.
End of the day, your lions still got a block.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
End of the day, your other receivers still got to
run their routes to get people distracted so he can
get open. It all comes down to, like, if everybody
wants to buy in, like I said, like, you're gonna
run your route hard for him to get open.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Dama.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
They probably don't got that. They looking at it like, oh,
Ryan Williams is the guy you get open, bro, Like
you get open, you don't need me to get you open.
But on at you Dub when we played, it was
like we.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Had the second receiver taking running the route hard as
possible so homeboy can get open.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And that's why it worked. Right.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's about buying into what the coach is speaking. And
I mean that's in every level of football. Like, you
got to you gotta have a brotherhood of culture. If
you don't, you're about to lose once are getting hardest
over with, Like, I just want to take it to
like right now, I mean we're living our dream right.
You know, you've jam your whole lot to play in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You're young. I get that. You know, rookie doing a
hell of a job too. By the way, I just
want to know, like, what would you tell your younger
chelf Let's go back to dom growing up who Hoop
Warner football? Like, what's one thing you would tell yourself?
I mean, all the adversity you face, what's one thing
you would tell young Doc?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You don't have to rub l's with elbows with people
so they don't think you're weird.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
If you think you got to be at home watching
film by yourself. Do it if you think you don't
want to go out to this party.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But but you you hear the social pressures of like
come out and don't do it.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Like I would tell my young self, bro, be as
weird as you want to be and what you feel
like you need to do to be great.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
In other words, just be you. Be you.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Don't listen to what people are trying to tell you
on the outside. Be yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
My wife's got that tattooed on her. It's terrible tattoo, but.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I really I like that, meaning man, it's little pencil
drunken night, a drunken tat.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
She had it before I met her.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Bro, Oh, it is what it is. Cover up, I
mean it's up. We can't see it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's public information to spot that one. I like that though,
because that's true, because I think it's weird we're like,
especially when you're young self. Because I wasn't around a
bunch of people who had the same work ethic I
did growing up, and I was obviously I'm not some bruiser.
I was a a work ethic type. I'm gonna be
on time more than you are. I'm gonna get there earlier.
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I'm gonna get extra repsited.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That was my recipe, right, got me as far as
I could, And I loved my career. I got to
meet people like Mike and had these friendships and trying
Once you're done playing ball, the hardest part is how
do you take that same approach to making money, being
a good husband, being a good father, being a good businessman.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And it's hard, bro, because you're used to that juice.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
We were talking about after the game, that that moment
with the boys of like man put the work in,
we won this game, like, let's turn up. It's the
best feeling in the world. Yeah, but how do you
do that when you don't have a football game anymore?
And taking that approach is tough, But it's hard. What
I'm getting at is it's hard to be different than
people that are just used to being normal. Like nobody
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in this room is a normal individual, Like you're just not.
We were just talking about winnies just now. I told
you I had a kid two weeks ago. He has
a son, Like there's a standard this kid's gonna have,
Like we're not normal. Like yes, if you don't want
to play football, that's fine, but you're gonna chase greatness
in some avenue in life. Effects you want to be
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a great piano player, We're gonna grind.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, we're gonna be We're.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Gonna we're gonna be Bocelli out there. But we're not
gonna just go through the motions. And I feel like
people put their kids in sports and yeah, you make
some friends. We play to win, bro, and you play
to be the best on your team in anything that
you do.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And that comes from your household. It does comes from
the head of your household. Because I remember I had
an older brother. I have an older brother. I'm saying that,
but uh, he kind of just put in my head
like bro, why are you okay losing? Like, don't ever lose.
It's like, yeah, I would I lose to this person.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Like just like everything, not just football, and it's it's
just ingrained.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
In my head as a kid. I'm like, why would
I lose? And I'm looking at other kids like I'm
nervous to win, And I'm like, bro, why are you
nervous to win?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I'm nervous to not lose. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not even thinking about losing. I'm just like, I'm
gonna win this. I'm gonna go my best if I
don't win, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
When you could?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
When you and that's the satisfaction of knowing when you
go to bed at night that I did everything I
possibly could to be the best version of myself I
could possibly be.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It come my way.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm good man, I got God on my side. I
put the work in, I did this that and the
other didn't. The cards didn't follow my favor on this
specific thing. Right, you know, you're putting the work in
right now, you're not dressing yet, right, You're you're going
through the You're going through it. The hard part is
not folding and saying, man, I want to trade, I
want to go someplace else.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Easy to do. It's easy to do and you get.
But it's easy to just be like, I'm gonna go
through the motions today and just I'm gonna just be
like just like motor through life. Yeah, that's an easy
decision to make. Now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
One of the with this guy, Quincy pondexxhert nine year
NBA vet dog. He was boys with Kobe and he
kind of talked about this thing called his dark play. Okay,
when you're driving home by yourself, no music on, and
you're just kind of really processing that. It's it's not
easy as a man to be able to face certain
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battles and nobody, nobody's canting, No one feel I'm sorry
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
No, you might.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You could call a loved one and like they'll hear
you out.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Maybe, but they're still gonna be like you're in the
league though they can't.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They can't relate.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's not their heartbeat, it's not their emotion, their feeling,
and like you gotta find a way each and every day.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'll say, like the hardest thing for me just going
through it was trying to find somebody who could relate
to what I was going through, Like for like a
lot of us. You know, I had a hard upbringing
when I'm the youngest of people, but like I'm the
bread winner, you know what I'm saying. So like it's
hard to call somebody and say like like this ain't
going my way, but you make ten times more than
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that person, or you live in this house, or you
have this car, you have this, and that like to
them like take your place. I'll switch to but like
kind of were talking about earlier, just like the dark
place and not being able to play, but having to
go out there every day. Like sometimes I come home
every day and my wife thinks, like okay, here, here's
just saying like not knowing that, like, yeah, you might
not see me on the field as much in the
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game that you're used to, but like I just got
done taking forty repsent practice type I'm saying, So, I
think the best advice I can give to you, just
as a young player, is leanon Jordan, you know, lean
on somebody, leaning your friends who are in the league
who can experience it. Because I got my brother. He's
not my brother, but I called my brother Jamian White,
and he went to the league too, and he's really
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the only person I could really talk to at Atlanta Falcons.
I was a dude over there for a little bit,
you know what I'm saying. And then so I wasn't
you know, I was rocking a single disch number. I
was starting every game. I was playing big, and next
day I know I was cut. So you know what
I'm saying, Like it's hard to have those conversations because
people don't understand, like there's no one who I could
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talk to in that aspect who relates to who's been
to that, you know. So I think the best advice
I can give to you is just like, lean on
people in similar situations like you. And that's not knocked
anybody else, you know what I'm saying, Like Frank is
one of my best friends in life. I don't know,
but it's just the fact of like, you know, I
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can't call Frank and tell him like, you know, this
is what's going on, what's going on, or like I'm
getting here and here and have him be like you're good, Mike.
You're in this place because you have this. This is
not so lean on those people who could who tuck
you off. Like I said, I'm trying to. I try
to do my best talk your little craig ledge when
when you be going through it on the sideline. But
you know what I'm saying, just know like anytime you
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feel some type of way, like I've been there, you
know what I'm saying, Like I thought I was gonna
be in Atlanta for my whole career, So just lean
on those people. Appreciate that. That's some good advice.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think it also, but Mike, like you went through
the diversity and last year was a tough year, Like
you were bouncing around and before you know it, like
it's what week nine and you green dot for the
Pittsburgh Steelers telling Tjan which gleans back to keep that faith,
keep doing the right thing, don't just let off the gas,
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like cause there's dudes, I'm sure you start in college
more where like they're collecting their scholarly check. They kind
of gave up trying to fight to get up the
depth chart. They're like, they're not gonna play me. I'm
a senior. I'm a junior. They're always they're trying to
recruit a guy so bad to take they want to
recruit a guy who's my position, Like I'm right here,
I'm doing my part.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Like that's hard.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
When you're hosting a dude on a recruiting visit, they're
gonna bring in concept, right, they're like, hey, yo, show
them a good time. Like, and I don't know about you,
but like there's certain people at Fresno State where they'd
be like, hey, man, if you don't like this, this, this,
and this, do not come here.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's not the place for you.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
But at the same time, like, that's you internally going
through those demons. It ain't it's it's not easy, and
I did want to transition to one thing. So like
you went to the combine. Yeah, I've talked to Mike,
I've talked to a lot of dudes who have been
in the What was your combine experience from a mental standpoint?
Because from my understanding, it's it's extremely challenging on the
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mental side. People see the forty yard dash, and you know,
they're fired up off the numbers, but it's there's a
lot more to it.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I would say it's pretty taxing in terms of you're
not gonna get the same amount of sleep you was
getting during training. They're gonna they're gonna hold you out
in meetings. You're gonna be in the hospital for like
ten hours. Just hey, do you want to you want
to get an MRI. Nah, but you're gonna get one,
you know what I'm saying. You might get it multiple times.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, they might be like, we messed it up once,
come get it two more times just to make sure
we're good. And you're gonna be in there for ten hours.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, like real talk, So I mean, here's the hospital
for ten hours, ten hours, MRIs. I was just out
the doughnut, Like.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I watched four different movies, all the Transformer joints, The
Revenge of the Falling.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Like the Age of Extinction.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
The first one was the best one.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
The Revenge of the Phone was fired though, bro.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The Megan Fox, Shallo Buff with Charlotte Buff, got out
with Charlot Buff.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Got out your next next week we will talk about
that now.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The og Megan Fox Charlotte Buff is the best Transformer.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
What next We're going put them on here? It's like yeah,
but yeah, I was watching plenty movies.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Cool uh and then what.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I got my MRI.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
They said hey, come do it again, And I set
in that machine for probably another two hours, low key,
just and then there's probably somebody that you can't see
that's just peeping your body language, like is he tripping
off of this? Like if you was in there trying
to do this, then somebody gonna be like, yep, we
got them. But I was just like all right, put
my headphones in, just bobbed out. So I kind of
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just try to play this even kill as I could.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
It was pretty texing though when Frank asked me the
combine question. My biggest thing was, like it's the only
place where people are looking for a reason not to
take you, you know, like the combine. As a kid,
you're like, man, I can't wait through the combine, like
like get the combine when the league like this is that,
And then you get older, you get there and like
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let's not make any mistake, Like it's a blessing to
get to the combine. I mean, it's something you work
for your whole life. But then when you really realize that, like, yo,
like this don't really help me. This is like this
is a reason not to take me. You know.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
That's what do you kind of think about that? Well,
I feel that if you're not doing your numbers, okay,
you know what I'm saying. Like I feel like overall
I had a smooth combine, Like my forty wasn't what
I wanted, but I guess that's everybody, you know what
I'm saying. So other than that, my numbers were smooth,
and I'm just like I didn't really feel like this
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is why we're not gonna take you. I felt like
it was a boost form my okaainly because like I
only play safety four year, so they going off of
thirteen games of tape, sixty plays a game.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
They're like, is this enough tape to draft him at safety?
You know what I'm saying. So that's kind of how
I took that. And then.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, that's that's basically how I feel about that. I
don't think it's like a don't get me here. I
think it's more of like a if you can show off,
show off.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, like if you got good hips, when you're getting
the dB drill, open your hips hello, well open again,
like and they're gonna be like, damn, that's nice, let's
get them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
If your if your superpower is jumping, jump hello high
like a combine to o.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Damnar broke the record for broad jump. I go, I
jump like a ten eight. He jumps and jumps a
twelve four. I'm like, bro yeah, no, yeah, yeah, they
hould up.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
We interviewed too at the East West Shrine game.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah every day, so we did it and at the
East West Shrine we can't do this, like we can't
be drinking, we can't be cussing to all that. We
love these Swiss Shians great, but like it's not to
bring the juice experience. And I tell you guys that,
I'm like, yo, love to chop it up another day.
But I did ask because he got the Combine invite.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I was like, what's your take? And he's like, I'm
going to break the record.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Oh yeah, yeah he was. He called that. No he was.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And then I remember watching it was real and I
was like, do it that?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
No, he's real, fam, I'm telling you because and then
we did the vertical and I'm pretty sure you jumped
like a forty two or something. Yeah. I'm like, oh yeah,
he's just a freak. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
So yeah, but that's that's what the Combine is, just
show off with your superpower is What was.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Your draft experience? Did you think you were going to
go when you thought you would go to.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Laid the laid party walk cap.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Irritating, Sure, I gotta I got a call during the draft.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
So if you get a call during the draft, you
think you're getting drafted. I'm getting a call from a team.
I'm not gonna say the sad team, but I get
a call. They gonna call me and say, hey, make
sure you stay by your phone. I said, bro, if
you call my phone during the drive I did, and
that my phone.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I will go up to the facility. That was on
day That was on day three. It was day two,
third round.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
So and they texted me the morning of Yeah, They're like,
stay by your phone. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna
stay with my phone right here, right right here. I'm
long I'm on you. And they called me, heyy, just
stay by your phone. I'm like, bro, hell nah, you
did the draft part and everything. On day two, I
had people behind me just wait, I got a call.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
They just looking over my shoulder. I'm like, ye, crazy work.
I'm like, yeah, that's not the right call.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
So it was a cool experience, I guess, But overall
I feel like it was irritating and delayed.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, ultimately it works out though I got to where
I am. You're in a good spot.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
No, I love this. Like I said, God works in
crazy ways.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And that's kind of why I'm not driven about the
situation I'm in in terms of like being inacted because
my whole life has never been easy. Like I've never
came into football was the best imediately, Like I came
in even in high school. I came in and I
was a freshman and I they brought a freshman up
other than me, and I had to work work, work.
End of the year, I got brought up, you know
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what I'm saying. So I kind of just and it
comes from the household too. My mom was like, your
life never gonna be easy. It's like, all right, you're right.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
So now I just look at life like it's not
gonna be easy, but I'm not gonna fold.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
So what am I finna? Do? You know what I'm saying.
I always ask everybody like, where do you think you're
going to go? Because for people who don't know about
when you do get drafted, like like you said, you
get calls, you get chattered, your agent hits you, like,
there's places you think you're gonna go that you don't
end up saying where or when? Where I thought I
was going to New York. I thought I was going
to the Jets early, Jets early, like not like first
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round early, but like but day two, let's call day two.
Day two. They had a couple of picks too.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
They had like five picks the second thing round, So
I'm like, oh yeah, they for shuffling to give me.
And then it was also the Bills, but the Bills
took Cole Bishop like like early second round. So it
was either the Bills or the Jets. And then I
was like, I'll go to the commandity. I told my
family that before the drive and then it happened, and
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I was like, damn, this is God.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Working right there. Anything else might.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I appreciate you?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Man, associate, you appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Stay fired up, boys,
All right, alright, all right, we are out of Cali
to say we're in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
State of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Is that correct? My name?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Just watch the commanders pull up.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Probably one of the most crazy wins I've seen in
my life in person ever.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To be honest with you, Mike, good to see.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You, miss you.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm going juice.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We have teammates wing through tonight. Start a song.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, man, first and foremost, man, love to see you, man,
love to love to supply o guy frank By. Yeah,
so let's just get it going with my boy Don Hampton. Yo, Man,
I got to say. I can't say enough about this guy.
You know, rookie, great rookie man makes plays turn the
linebacker in seven days and as a dB. But yeah, man,
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we'll get into it later on the pod. But man,
just say what's up to the people. Man, what's going
on people? Dom Hampton? I just say where I'm from
and so over to thank you. Broever. Yeah, let's see dumb.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Okay, that was a good point there, Mike. So you
came in not playing linebacker.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Came in as a safety.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, came in as a safety. You played safety in college.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I played a lot of positions in college, okay, like
starting at corner then Nickel and I played safety four
a year.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
When you got told to day, I'm in the National
Football League playing safety. I need you to transition different
a whole different level right there. What was the mindset
like having to make that switch?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
At first?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It was I was sitting in my feelings a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'll talk about that, brocause that's easy.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah, I mean it was I kind of in my
own head.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I had to figure out the difference between like sympathy
and empathy and yeah, sympathy and empathy and just knowing
I can sit in this pocket that I'm in, which
is like me getting switched from positions, feeling like nobody's
still on the table for me, just understanding like if
I sit in this pocket and really understand what I'm doing,
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this can accelerate my growth or can halt it completely.
So I can either take this step and use it
as a stepping stone or I'm just gonna fall down
and you know, fall beneath my training, which I feel
like I'll never do.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What was something in your when you're deep in your
fields and you know that's kind of a lonely point,
you know what was kind of the kick and get
trigger that said, Nah, this is a challenge, a little adversity,
something that I wasn't expecting to do. But I'm built
like this. Let's let's let's get out of our fields.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Let's turn it on.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Now, my Savior of Jesus Christ man, I'm gonna be honest,
and then the Bible gets to me. When if I'm
really in a tough situation, I'll call my grandma. She
was she was preaching to me when I was a baby,
and I would just talk to her and She'll make
sure to get me through it, point me to a
specific verse that would resonate with what I'm doing and
situation I'm going through. So I would say the Bible
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was a big thing that got me through it. And
then for myself, I'm just self motivated. Like I wouldn't
have got here if I wasn't motivated. Mike knows that already,
Like we've gone through a lot just to get to
this point. It's almost luck and skill at the same time.
Like I know a lot of people that were skilled
in football that just didn't make you because the luck
wasn't there. So knowing I'm in this opportunity and I
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got my position moved, I can look at it like
nobody's still on the table for me. Or I can
look at it like I'm gonna make a true impact, you.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Know, man. I mean I could just say, like just
being to work with you every day, man, the passion,
the effort. I mean, did you put into this like
it means a lot? Man? Just I mean I'm on
your five. We got Bobby in the room, we got
Oose in the room, like guys who are way older
than you. But I mean just coming into work every
day with that. When I got moved from defensive end
the linebacker, it was a head wrong, but I took
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a whole springball to get done. Yeah, I see, I
watched you, dude in ten days. So like I'm saying,
I can't say nothing about you just coming in every day.
I mean I've took talked you off the ledge a
couple of times in the games. But I mean, I swear,
man's it's your mindset. But I think it's your mindset.
It's positive. I mean, you're touch drawing a lot to
these kids. But I mean a lot of guys trying
to get in the spot that you're in right now.
(04:07):
I mean it just talk talk to us a little
bit about that, just how like every day, Like how
do you show up to work every day knowing like
I could be up anytime.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Shoot, it's crazy that you say that, because recently I've
been reading The Energy Bus by John Gordon, which my
coach Ken Norton to put me onto.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Shout out coach man the big influence.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But yeah, this book is just like all about positive
energy and knowing that you can control your path and life.
If you don't like the path that's being paved, you
can create a new one. So that's basically that's a quote.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
We had the other day in the linebacker meeting.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But yeah, it's just all about positive energy and bringing
people along and getting rid of people that are being
energy vampires. So keeping that positive energy going and making
sure like in my head, my perception is my reality.
So if I wake up and I'm like the sun shining,
even if it's not, I'm gonna have a good day.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I think that's very relevant in the sense too of like, Okay,
you know this show is called Bring the Juice.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Bring the Juice with something we are locker room, our
weight room.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We get fired up over as a slogan of like okay,
little flat today. Right, Sometimes you're not feeling the the
real momentum, right, juice is Hail Mary tip wind beats.
That is juice right right off the sideline turn, locker
room turret, just Awstroe turn. Like there isn't something outside
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of the game of football that can mimic that. I mean,
World Series, they somebody just hit a Freddie Freeman hit
a walk off Grand Slam a couple of nights ago.
That's juice, right, Yeah, those moments in sports, that's why
you play, bro, That's why you go through all the
achieve to get those little ten seconds spurts.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It makes everything worth it all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I know you've had a lot of different football
accolades where you've you've experienced that juice, but it really
is it's more than that. It's on the day when
you don't want to, when it's uh January and you're
not really feeling anymore body's hurting, or or now that
y'all in the league like April you probably should be
getting right, you know that o tas are starting up
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you know that, you know, you got to earn your
job every single year, and you were you're the new
cat on the block, right, Like it's cool that you
guys are in a room where everyone's iron sharp and.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ironing, like trying to elevate each other.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's not always the case in position groups, right, Sometimes
there's there's there's a there's a line between guys. But
if you could come to work every day, we're talking football, Like,
you could be an accountant, you could be a baker.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
My family farm's onions for a living, Like that's what
I do full time.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I still got to find ways to bring the
juice the way I did in athletics to the table.
And I think that's one thing that people really resonate
in this in like this platform is like you're a
professional football player. You guys ball out. You guys are
doing the damn thing. But you still can bring the
juice in anything you do in your life. Right, you
could apply that in different ways shapes and forms, always
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in forever, constantly, and you are exemplifying that. But you
mentioned books, what other books? What other forms of motivation
do you apply your life to kind of continue to
sharpen your your skill set, your mind.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So for myself, like I said, books, motivational videos would
be a big thing. Just get something to give me
fuel every every day. You know, some mornings, like you said,
it's harder to wake up and go do what you
want to do. So you need ninety three fuel that day,
you need premium fuel. And that's that's the days where
I pull out the motivational videos like oh you will
(07:42):
rose growing through the concrete is Ikey Johnson, Like it's Ikey.
Those are the days I pull those videos up. But
normally I feel like I can. I can wake up
and kind of put myself in the mindset of it's
a work day, let's get some work done.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Take us through, just so for people to understand being
active is tough, right. You know, you got people in
your corner saying like, oh man, you're in the league,
Like you know, you're still getting game checks andever. But like,
as a competitive you want to play. Take us through
like you might not be on the field, but like
a day in practice, like I mean, you're getting the
most We talked about this the other day. You you
(08:17):
have the most reps of every line back here on
the team. You know, what I'm saying, So like take
us through how you mentally prepare yourself to get through that,
or just like you know your inner thoughts. That's easy.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I take I to my Wednesday and my Thursday are
on my Super Bowls. Yeah, I go into practice like, yeah,
this is my game, and I take that mindset in
there and knowing that I'm gonna get better for Shure
and the person that's gonna have to stop me from
making places is gonna get better because you're not about
to just not try and stop me from doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So if I can cuss, you can tell Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So I mean it's mainly more of like a I
just I just try and come in on my on
my work days and really put in that work because
that's all I got.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know what I'm saying coming in from Arizona. What
was the competition like growing up in Arizona playing football?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Uh, it's it's underrated. Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's crazy that people don't think az got talent for real,
Like as got.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
People, what would you rank them in the States.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like obviously it's not Callie, it's not not Florida.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Florida's not a Georgia. It's better than Delaware.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
For showing Delaware in there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, he's from Delaware.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're through shot.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's better than Maine, beats South Dakota.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I'm gonna say Arizona's number seven seven seven. If you
can name six states, Arizona's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I'm not gonning to go order here, Kyllie, Texas, Florida, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Diama, Louisiana, Bama, Okay, Bama, Louisiana. Now what.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I would go Washington, I would go to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I would I would throw Colorado. I'm not elevation.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar enough to know.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, they got South Carolina, got some people. Yeah, naming
southern states. That's all y'all just did is? I said Colorado.
Let's name some such Okay, you did say Colorado. But realistically,
Arizona is top. Oh I'm not saying there's.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Arizona has its stocks. Arizona has its stalks.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Okay, it's in Pennsylvania, Church BNV really.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Maryland, yeah, d and V Jersey, Jersey. You can tell
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Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, you got this, man said Colorado.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
He's obviously west coast. I say, Arizona obviously west coast.
Where are you from? Better? Yup? So you got the two?
Delaware is talking about pak.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm like, they got the d n V.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah. Are these schools?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I've never heard about it? Every I never heard about all?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Right, So AZ's top seven all left out on side
number seven? Growing up in AZ, is it your goal
to play in Arizona State or Arizona?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Why? Sword of kind of. I went to the coach
and I met him and he was like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
What was it at the time? Uh, Arizona was hermit?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
No, it wasn't herm it was before her, Yeah, but
I mean whoever it was. He was like, yeah, it's
gonna be Arizona versus everybody. And he told me that
while he was recruiting me.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like, we're gonna get every Arizona guy and we're gonna
beat everybody else in the country. I said, Bro said,
we're not gonna win, So I'm not I said, Bro,
if you're being serious, I'm not committing here.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Bro, we will lose every game, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Arizona's a top seven school, but there's a lot of
people in Cali, there's a lot of people in Texas,
and a lot of people in Florida. Eighty five percent
of those kids grow up dreaming to play at USC
or U c l A.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yes, so I think you, like, I'm not playing Arizona.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Half a roster wasn't at President State?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Half no, when you were there, Okay, yes, yes, half
a roster though, was dudes who got from LA. They
got denied to play at USC and U c l A,
and they came to President State. And that's why President
State constantly beats UCLA because they take that personal.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
And except when you were there and it was all yea, yeah,
we all.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Texas cats, tex cats, different different conversation. But why did
you end up going to UB?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I went to U DUB for like the heritage or
dvs that were putting in so like a couple of
years before I went there, they put like came out.
They had Yeah, they had people like Buddha, Rap, Sidney Jones,
Kevin King.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
We played them when they were three in the country. Yeah,
we felt that.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'm saying, like talent and the dB room has always
been elite, and I was just like, I really want
to be a part of this. So, like I told
you earlier, I came in as a corner and I
played corner for like three years and I learned a
lot there, moved to Nickel, learned there, and then safety
was like the combination of all of that coming together,
like corner and nickel, and then I just.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Liked to tackle. So it's kind of easy to go
play safety. Well, sticking on the college route, we have
a common guy. What our guy, Kaitlin de Boor talked
to us about his leadership and what.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
He brought to you that was a coaching change in
your area was yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, So the Boar came in a two years before. Yeah,
he came from Presno, we snatched him. Not gonna lie
but dirty.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, he came in my last two years and and
the boards leadership way was more of like a professional
so it was like, we're going to allow you to
come in and put in his work. He probably felt
a lot of that. He wasn't putting too many like
stipulations on what I can do with my time. But
it was like when you come in, it's worked on.
And it was a lot different than the coach I
had before that, which was like trying to control every
step you took, like you couldn't walk this way without
(14:18):
him being like, no, walked that way, you know. So
it was a it was a big It was a
big change in culture. And I can appreciate his coaching
style for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Bye by talking about that and just him letting you
do your thing. What do you think the misconception or
what you know? Kind of going on with Alabama right now?
Without Nick saving, what do I want to get into it?
What do you mean like, why do you think they're
not having as much success? If you mean we we've
had Dubar he was great, you've had the bar. He
was great with Indiana, he got load.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This a loaded question here, bro Nick Saban, there before
facts and Nick Saban. Nick Saban, I will say this
best coach of all time in college football?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes, I agree, but.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Had they had in our error. That's the dynasty. That
is dynasty.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
They were the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
They were the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, the best of crisps.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm okay, But Mike, you say that we've brought this
up before. Do you think the dudes at Florida and
Tennessee and Georgia can't run forty times like they do
at Bama, can't jump like they do, can't do that.
There's a culture in college football where you got a
group of dudes eighteen to twenty two.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You come in fresh as hell.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You're used to being the dog of your high school.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right, you used to be in the all conference dude,
playing both ways most of the time.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And all of a sudden you come in.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You're you ain't bomb with the total pull out. You
got to re earn your spot. You got to re
earn your spot. All they do is they see ESPN
and they're like, man, Alabama's bad. I'm like, no, man,
they're going through some culture changes. I think, why are
the commanders good this year? Your culture is legit, like
it's openly. I tweet it constantly, like it's you could
(15:57):
see it, And why do you think you won? Like
all right night, Like tonight, you guys probably could have
won by forty realistically, that's all should would it could
have though, right, But at the end of the day,
college football coaches have such a green group of guys.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They don't know how to act like professionals.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And that's why there's five stars that come in that
get beat out by walk ons because they can't handle
the pressure. They might be able to run a good
route or cover a guy one on one at a camp,
but they can't necessarily come every day and be on
time to meetings.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think it's about buying in, like we, yeah, you
we bought into it because we were doodo before he
got there with four and eight, so we like, we're
gonna buy into whatever walking is doing eleven, so you're
gonna buy into what he talked and he talking like, oh,
we really gonna win some big games, okay, And after
you start winning a couple you really get start believing.
(16:51):
Just don't I don't believe Bama has believed it like
they should have, Like, yeah, they haven't bought into every
word the boys said. And I can just tell that
beout how they play. They see it on the sideline
they're playing like individuals too.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think there was such a culture with Nick Saban
and he read I saw he redesigned the office. Okay,
Nick Saban had this old school like man cave Dan.
I thought it was sick personally, but yeah, the old
old school, right, and then du Boy kind of put
a little bit more of like a new flair on it,
like an up a facelift in the room.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I don't think it's a bad thing, right.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And one of the reasons Saban got out of the
game is because the landscape of college football is changing
with nil and the way the transfer portals roll on.
Like Kirby Smart said it best, where it's hard to
create a culture in a locker room with guys who
are there two years, three years, four years, five years,
even because guys they might be one and done, they
might be a backup somewhere and their rival school is
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going to pay them a bag and they're jumping ship
because they're going to take back, right. But Nick Saban,
when that wasn't an element, he was able to get
guys who could be starters at other schools and buy
in and say, hey, you're gonna you're gonna be a
two for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You're gonna be a three when you play.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You're gonna have passion to be a gunner on punt
as a freshman, even though yeah, you're a five star
who could go start a lot of places and not
have to play punt.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But this is the way we do things. He had
to order of business. And I do think Debor is
going to.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Because he is a good coach, like a damn good
I think he will reclaim the Bama culture.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He'll get recreated. He's not gonna be nick shaving.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
My only thing is about the whole Alabama situation going on,
is okay, take a guy like Josh Jacobs, right and
this new nil do situation Now, Josh Jacobs sat on
the bench for like three years, four years, would he
a guy like him not hit the transfer portal nowadays?
One hundred percent? You know what I'm saying. So that
(18:53):
is it's a holder like Bama. Bama has four deep,
five deep that everybody knows. The biggest thing in college
football is your ones are great, Your two are like
you know what I'm saying, Like your threes, I mean,
you know what I'm saying, Like, there's no such thing
in college football, BAMA has one used to have one, two, three, four,
Like you know what I'm saying. So that is the
(19:13):
only thing I have on Like it's tough for guys
like Dubor because guys like Dubor in this new era
where it's like, I don't think Bama. I think Bama's
gonna make the playoffs. I think Bama's gonna take a
run hot college playoffs. I really do.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But my thing is, like it's tough. I mean, you
got left.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Let's say I got this guy three million dollars, but
someone's off for him ten. I mean, I'm not staying
in school for you know, you go offer me fifty
million dollars, I'm gone, you know what I'm saying. So
it's a whole situation to me, Like yeah, the Nick
Sabing area, I get it. But at the same time,
like if you're four strings as good as your damn
the one oh on the other team, Like we won
a lot of games. Yeah, So that's that's the one
(19:49):
only part about him and Duboor. If you look at
his track record, he's been a winner Sioux Falls, Preside.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
State, even Indiana one year.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know what I'm saying, he's a winner. So I
think if the team, if the kids buy into what
he has, I think Alabama's gonna get back to what
the nick saban there it was I do.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So what would you say after us both having them,
I didn't have him as a head coach. I have
an other c my little brother at President State, they
had him as head coach. As a guy who had
him as a head coach, what do you think is
one thing where you're like, I think he's best in
the country at this.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
In other words, as coach Ken would say, what's a superpower?
His superpower is scheme. His superpower is having someone run
wide open. But at the end of the day, you
still got to make that throw. End of the day,
you still got to read that. You know what I'm saying.
End of the day, your lions still got a block.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
End of the day, your other receivers still got to
run their routes to get people distracted so he can
get open. It all comes down to, like, if everybody
wants to buy in, like I said, like, you're gonna
run your route hard for him to get open.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Dama.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
They probably don't got that. They looking at it like, oh,
Ryan Williams is the guy you get open, bro, Like
you get open, you don't need me to get you open.
But on at you Dub when we played, it was
like we.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Had the second receiver taking running the route hard as
possible so homeboy can get open.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And that's why it worked. Right.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's about buying into what the coach is speaking. And
I mean that's in every level of football. Like, you
got to you gotta have a brotherhood of culture. If
you don't, you're about to lose once are getting hardest
over with, Like, I just want to take it to
like right now, I mean we're living our dream right.
You know, you've jam your whole lot to play in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You're young. I get that. You know, rookie doing a
hell of a job too. By the way, I just
want to know, like, what would you tell your younger
chelf Let's go back to dom growing up who Hoop
Warner football? Like, what's one thing you would tell yourself?
I mean, all the adversity you face, what's one thing
you would tell young Doc?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You don't have to rub l's with elbows with people
so they don't think you're weird.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
If you think you got to be at home watching
film by yourself. Do it if you think you don't
want to go out to this party.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But but you you hear the social pressures of like
come out and don't do it.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Like I would tell my young self, bro, be as
weird as you want to be and what you feel
like you need to do to be great.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
In other words, just be you. Be you.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Don't listen to what people are trying to tell you
on the outside. Be yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
My wife's got that tattooed on her. It's terrible tattoo, but.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I really I like that, meaning man, it's little pencil
drunken night, a drunken tat.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
She had it before I met her.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Bro, Oh, it is what it is. Cover up, I
mean it's up. We can't see it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's public information to spot that one. I like that though,
because that's true, because I think it's weird we're like,
especially when you're young self. Because I wasn't around a
bunch of people who had the same work ethic I
did growing up, and I was obviously I'm not some bruiser.
I was a a work ethic type. I'm gonna be
on time more than you are. I'm gonna get there earlier.
(23:04):
I'm gonna get extra repsited.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That was my recipe, right, got me as far as
I could, And I loved my career. I got to
meet people like Mike and had these friendships and trying
Once you're done playing ball, the hardest part is how
do you take that same approach to making money, being
a good husband, being a good father, being a good businessman.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And it's hard, bro, because you're used to that juice.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
We were talking about after the game, that that moment
with the boys of like man put the work in,
we won this game, like, let's turn up. It's the
best feeling in the world. Yeah, but how do you
do that when you don't have a football game anymore?
And taking that approach is tough, But it's hard. What
I'm getting at is it's hard to be different than
people that are just used to being normal. Like nobody
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in this room is a normal individual, Like you're just not.
We were just talking about winnies just now. I told
you I had a kid two weeks ago. He has
a son, Like there's a standard this kid's gonna have,
Like we're not normal. Like yes, if you don't want
to play football, that's fine, but you're gonna chase greatness
in some avenue in life. Effects you want to be
(24:12):
a great piano player, We're gonna grind.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, we're gonna be We're.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Gonna we're gonna be Bocelli out there. But we're not
gonna just go through the motions. And I feel like
people put their kids in sports and yeah, you make
some friends. We play to win, bro, and you play
to be the best on your team in anything that
you do.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And that comes from your household. It does comes from
the head of your household. Because I remember I had
an older brother. I have an older brother. I'm saying that,
but uh, he kind of just put in my head
like bro, why are you okay losing? Like, don't ever lose.
It's like, yeah, I would I lose to this person.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Like just like everything, not just football, and it's it's
just ingrained.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
In my head as a kid. I'm like, why would
I lose? And I'm looking at other kids like I'm
nervous to win, And I'm like, bro, why are you
nervous to win?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I'm nervous to not lose. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not even thinking about losing. I'm just like, I'm
gonna win this. I'm gonna go my best if I
don't win, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
When you could?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
When you and that's the satisfaction of knowing when you
go to bed at night that I did everything I
possibly could to be the best version of myself I
could possibly be.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It come my way.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm good man, I got God on my side. I
put the work in, I did this that and the
other didn't. The cards didn't follow my favor on this
specific thing. Right, you know, you're putting the work in
right now, you're not dressing yet, right, You're you're going
through the You're going through it. The hard part is
not folding and saying, man, I want to trade, I
want to go someplace else.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Easy to do. It's easy to do and you get.
But it's easy to just be like, I'm gonna go
through the motions today and just I'm gonna just be
like just like motor through life. Yeah, that's an easy
decision to make. Now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
One of the with this guy, Quincy pondexxhert nine year
NBA vet dog. He was boys with Kobe and he
kind of talked about this thing called his dark play. Okay,
when you're driving home by yourself, no music on, and
you're just kind of really processing that. It's it's not
easy as a man to be able to face certain
(26:10):
battles and nobody, nobody's canting, No one feel I'm sorry
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
No, you might.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You could call a loved one and like they'll hear
you out.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Maybe, but they're still gonna be like you're in the
league though they can't.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They can't relate.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's not their heartbeat, it's not their emotion, their feeling,
and like you gotta find a way each and every day.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'll say, like the hardest thing for me just going
through it was trying to find somebody who could relate
to what I was going through, Like for like a
lot of us. You know, I had a hard upbringing
when I'm the youngest of people, but like I'm the
bread winner, you know what I'm saying. So like it's
hard to call somebody and say like like this ain't
going my way, but you make ten times more than
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that person, or you live in this house, or you
have this car, you have this, and that like to
them like take your place. I'll switch to but like
kind of were talking about earlier, just like the dark
place and not being able to play, but having to
go out there every day. Like sometimes I come home
every day and my wife thinks, like okay, here, here's
just saying like not knowing that, like, yeah, you might
not see me on the field as much in the
(27:12):
game that you're used to, but like I just got
done taking forty repsent practice type I'm saying, So, I
think the best advice I can give to you, just
as a young player, is leanon Jordan, you know, lean
on somebody, leaning your friends who are in the league
who can experience it. Because I got my brother. He's
not my brother, but I called my brother Jamian White,
and he went to the league too, and he's really
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the only person I could really talk to at Atlanta Falcons.
I was a dude over there for a little bit,
you know what I'm saying. And then so I wasn't
you know, I was rocking a single disch number. I
was starting every game. I was playing big, and next
day I know I was cut. So you know what
I'm saying, Like it's hard to have those conversations because
people don't understand, like there's no one who I could
(27:54):
talk to in that aspect who relates to who's been
to that, you know. So I think the best advice
I can give to you is just like, lean on
people in similar situations like you. And that's not knocked
anybody else, you know what I'm saying, Like Frank is
one of my best friends in life. I don't know,
but it's just the fact of like, you know, I
(28:14):
can't call Frank and tell him like, you know, this
is what's going on, what's going on, or like I'm
getting here and here and have him be like you're good, Mike.
You're in this place because you have this. This is
not so lean on those people who could who tuck
you off. Like I said, I'm trying to. I try
to do my best talk your little craig ledge when
when you be going through it on the sideline. But
you know what I'm saying, just know like anytime you
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feel some type of way, like I've been there, you
know what I'm saying, Like I thought I was gonna
be in Atlanta for my whole career, So just lean
on those people. Appreciate that. That's some good advice.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think it also, but Mike, like you went through
the diversity and last year was a tough year, Like
you were bouncing around and before you know it, like
it's what week nine and you green dot for the
Pittsburgh Steelers telling Tjan which gleans back to keep that faith,
keep doing the right thing, don't just let off the gas,
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like cause there's dudes, I'm sure you start in college
more where like they're collecting their scholarly check. They kind
of gave up trying to fight to get up the
depth chart. They're like, they're not gonna play me. I'm
a senior. I'm a junior. They're always they're trying to
recruit a guy so bad to take they want to
recruit a guy who's my position, Like I'm right here,
I'm doing my part.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Like that's hard.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
When you're hosting a dude on a recruiting visit, they're
gonna bring in concept, right, they're like, hey, yo, show
them a good time. Like, and I don't know about you,
but like there's certain people at Fresno State where they'd
be like, hey, man, if you don't like this, this, this,
and this, do not come here.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's not the place for you.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
But at the same time, like, that's you internally going
through those demons. It ain't it's it's not easy, and
I did want to transition to one thing. So like
you went to the combine. Yeah, I've talked to Mike,
I've talked to a lot of dudes who have been
in the What was your combine experience from a mental standpoint?
Because from my understanding, it's it's extremely challenging on the
(30:08):
mental side. People see the forty yard dash, and you know,
they're fired up off the numbers, but it's there's a
lot more to it.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I would say it's pretty taxing in terms of you're
not gonna get the same amount of sleep you was
getting during training. They're gonna they're gonna hold you out
in meetings. You're gonna be in the hospital for like
ten hours. Just hey, do you want to you want
to get an MRI. Nah, but you're gonna get one,
you know what I'm saying. You might get it multiple times.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, they might be like, we messed it up once,
come get it two more times just to make sure
we're good. And you're gonna be in there for ten hours.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, like real talk, So I mean, here's the hospital
for ten hours, ten hours, MRIs. I was just out
the doughnut, Like.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I watched four different movies, all the Transformer joints, The
Revenge of the Falling.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Like the Age of Extinction.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
The first one was the best one.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
The Revenge of the Phone was fired though, bro.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The Megan Fox, Shallo Buff with Charlotte Buff, got out
with Charlot Buff.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Got out your next next week we will talk about
that now.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The og Megan Fox Charlotte Buff is the best Transformer.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
What next We're going put them on here? It's like yeah,
but yeah, I was watching plenty movies.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Cool uh and then what.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I got my MRI.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
They said hey, come do it again, And I set
in that machine for probably another two hours, low key,
just and then there's probably somebody that you can't see
that's just peeping your body language, like is he tripping
off of this? Like if you was in there trying
to do this, then somebody gonna be like, yep, we
got them. But I was just like all right, put
my headphones in, just bobbed out. So I kind of
(31:56):
just try to play this even kill as I could.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
It was pretty texing though when Frank asked me the
combine question. My biggest thing was, like it's the only
place where people are looking for a reason not to
take you, you know, like the combine. As a kid,
you're like, man, I can't wait through the combine, like
like get the combine when the league like this is that,
And then you get older, you get there and like
(32:22):
let's not make any mistake, Like it's a blessing to
get to the combine. I mean, it's something you work
for your whole life. But then when you really realize that, like, yo,
like this don't really help me. This is like this
is a reason not to take me. You know.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
That's what do you kind of think about that? Well,
I feel that if you're not doing your numbers, okay,
you know what I'm saying. Like I feel like overall
I had a smooth combine, Like my forty wasn't what
I wanted, but I guess that's everybody, you know what
I'm saying. So other than that, my numbers were smooth,
and I'm just like I didn't really feel like this
(32:58):
is why we're not gonna take you. I felt like
it was a boost form my okaainly because like I
only play safety four year, so they going off of
thirteen games of tape, sixty plays a game.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
They're like, is this enough tape to draft him at safety?
You know what I'm saying. So that's kind of how
I took that. And then.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, that's that's basically how I feel about that. I
don't think it's like a don't get me here. I
think it's more of like a if you can show off,
show off.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, like if you got good hips, when you're getting
the dB drill, open your hips hello, well open again,
like and they're gonna be like, damn, that's nice, let's
get them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
If your if your superpower is jumping, jump hello high
like a combine to o.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Damnar broke the record for broad jump. I go, I
jump like a ten eight. He jumps and jumps a
twelve four. I'm like, bro yeah, no, yeah, yeah, they
hould up.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
We interviewed too at the East West Shrine game.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah every day, so we did it and at the
East West Shrine we can't do this, like we can't
be drinking, we can't be cussing to all that. We
love these Swiss Shians great, but like it's not to
bring the juice experience. And I tell you guys that,
I'm like, yo, love to chop it up another day.
But I did ask because he got the Combine invite.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I was like, what's your take? And he's like, I'm
going to break the record.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Oh yeah, yeah he was. He called that. No he was.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And then I remember watching it was real and I
was like, do it that?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
No, he's real, fam, I'm telling you because and then
we did the vertical and I'm pretty sure you jumped
like a forty two or something. Yeah. I'm like, oh yeah,
he's just a freak. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
So yeah, but that's that's what the Combine is, just
show off with your superpower is What was.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Your draft experience? Did you think you were going to
go when you thought you would go to.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Laid the laid party walk cap.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Irritating, Sure, I gotta I got a call during the draft.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
So if you get a call during the draft, you
think you're getting drafted. I'm getting a call from a team.
I'm not gonna say the sad team, but I get
a call. They gonna call me and say, hey, make
sure you stay by your phone. I said, bro, if
you call my phone during the drive I did, and
that my phone.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I will go up to the facility. That was on
day That was on day three. It was day two,
third round.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
So and they texted me the morning of Yeah, They're like,
stay by your phone. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna
stay with my phone right here, right right here. I'm
long I'm on you. And they called me, heyy, just
stay by your phone. I'm like, bro, hell nah, you
did the draft part and everything. On day two, I
had people behind me just wait, I got a call.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
They just looking over my shoulder. I'm like, ye, crazy work.
I'm like, yeah, that's not the right call.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
So it was a cool experience, I guess, But overall
I feel like it was irritating and delayed.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, ultimately it works out though I got to where
I am. You're in a good spot.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
No, I love this. Like I said, God works in
crazy ways.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And that's kind of why I'm not driven about the
situation I'm in in terms of like being inacted because
my whole life has never been easy. Like I've never
came into football was the best imediately, Like I came
in even in high school. I came in and I
was a freshman and I they brought a freshman up
other than me, and I had to work work, work.
End of the year, I got brought up, you know
(36:17):
what I'm saying. So I kind of just and it
comes from the household too. My mom was like, your
life never gonna be easy. It's like, all right, you're right.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
So now I just look at life like it's not
gonna be easy, but I'm not gonna fold.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
So what am I finna? Do? You know what I'm saying.
I always ask everybody like, where do you think you're
going to go? Because for people who don't know about
when you do get drafted, like like you said, you
get calls, you get chattered, your agent hits you, like,
there's places you think you're gonna go that you don't
end up saying where or when? Where I thought I
was going to New York. I thought I was going
to the Jets early, Jets early, like not like first
(36:50):
round early, but like but day two, let's call day two.
Day two. They had a couple of picks too.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
They had like five picks the second thing round, So
I'm like, oh yeah, they for shuffling to give me.
And then it was also the Bills, but the Bills
took Cole Bishop like like early second round. So it
was either the Bills or the Jets. And then I
was like, I'll go to the commandity. I told my
family that before the drive and then it happened, and
(37:15):
I was like, damn, this is God.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Working right there. Anything else might.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I appreciate you?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Man, associate, you appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Stay fired up, boys,
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