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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
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I'm like, yeah, you gotta be careful though. Man, sometimes
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Speaker 1 (01:06):
We think you get a text in Sacy from UTOL.
So know you guys talk of basketball right now. I
was wondering you guys are opinion about the depths in
this draft on the defensive line. I would really love
to see the d line improve, but also love to
see a running back in the first round.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I do believe they will draft both.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I do believe they will make a defensive line selection
and a running back selection at some point. I think
right now they're stacking their board and trying to get
everything evaluated and try to get a feel for where
everybody's gonna go, and now they can best.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Come on with the guys they want.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I think it's the Broncos find themselves in arguably one
of the better positions than years past, because now you've
solidified certain key spots on both the offense Deepen's side
of the ball with some free agent acquisition, signing DJ
Jones bag. I think they believe that that helps out.
But at the same time, even though DJ got a
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nice little payday, you have to make sure that you're
building your roster and you're constantly adding depth because you
never know what happened is down in the future, someone
may get injured, you may have a difference of opinion
based on level of production. To have younger guys waiting
in the wings definitely helps you out and you create
a culture where those young guys can learn from the
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veteran guys.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But now you're bringing them along slowly. Just think about
this with.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Like Drew Sanders, right, the confusion as well is he's
playing outside, He's playing inside now the plan is to
play him inside. Imagine the amount of growth he's going
to have just being in this offense for another year.
But more importantly watching Drake Greenlaw work. For me, that
is something that you want to do. Bring in guys,
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veteran guys that key positions where the young guys can
actually learn and develop to be productive members of your
defense of your offense.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And as far as the depth of this draft, I mean,
it's not the deepest draft of the world, but there
are some I mean the positions where the Broncos need
guys that there are there is some depth. So you know,
maybe one of these lucky things that a Brucos you guys,
get your brackets filled out for the h for March Madas.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
The NAA Tournament. I don't do brackets.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We did exercise, you know before, and that was really interesting.
The reason I don't, I don't. I mean, life is
filled with disappointment. And when you fill out a bracket, man,
you put so much work into it, and then to
watch that first opening round of the tournament and then
now it's it's trash.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So you're saying you're bad at college basketball. That's not
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm just saying that it's frustrating because once you fill
out your bracket, you are invested, even in teams that
you're not big fans of, and then when.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Something goes wrong, it's like, gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Stunned and it's one of those teams that was kind
of like a mid major or whatever, and they kind
of just justmantle your your your bracket. Just read one
last final second three point shot.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
But then don't you start rooting for that team because
of the underdog and you know it was not bracket.
I'm not rooting for them after that. It just sounds
like you got some bad bracket selection skills. To me,
I love that's it. I mean, you know, I got
you do have a championship pick? Do you think you?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I mean, you know, forget the busted bracket. You you
have a final four. Well, I'm thinking Alabama Auburn.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Okay, let me see.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know how much you love the SEC. Well, I'm
not in I'm not a huge fan of the SEC.
But those teams are playing great basketball. Uh, you can't
have a final four without Houston, And in my.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Book, I have Houston in the finals. So you know
they're in my final four.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yes, Now, I thought about, you know, Duke, but Duke
is in the same bracket as Obama if I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Not mistaken, So who else I'm awesome, I'm missing. So
that's the reasons for the flag injury. You got to
watch that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, I actually have Arizona beaten Duke really and get
into the final four. I've got Houston and Arizona coming
out of that side, and then I've got Auburn and
Florida coming out of the other side.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I have Florida win it all. I have them beating
Houston and win. No far practice are too familiar, are
too similar.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And Florida's just there, just crushing right now, I mean,
unless they shoot themselves in the foot, that road is
paid for.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Florida defeeding Houston.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The only difference between Ben and my Final Four is
he's got Houston making it out of the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I've got Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I've Houston just struggled a little too much for when
I was watching him for the Colorado men's basketball game.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I just have to be on the way though.
I mean, they got all they gonna do.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They gonna be telling SIU, Edwardsville, probably Gonzag, I probably Purdue.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And then that's before they even get to Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Clemson's quality, I think they'll see Clemson instead of Purdue,
and I think Clemson's Clemson could make.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Some moll See.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Here's what I pushed back on what you said about Houston.
Because when you are a higher seed, and you are
a team that's projected to get to the Sweet six,
Sweet sixteen, the Elite eight, and ultimately the Final four,
obviously every team that you play you gotta get their
best shot.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So does that mean as though well all every team
is catching up to you. No, you're gonna have some
down nights. They're gonna elevate their level play based on
a competition, and they knocked down a couple of shots,
but I don't think that means that Houston is not
gonna be one of those top teams in the tournament.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Another thing that worries.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Me they have that real grinded down, slow style of play.
If you're limiting the possessions in the game, you are
opping the chance for randomness, and that's something that worries
you with them.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I wish they played a little uh more aggressively.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's just say, you've got to find a team you
can force the temple on them, and I think Florida
is the team that can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Interestingly, do I have five SEC teams in the Elite eight?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Five SEC teams the leader and there would be more
except Bama plays Bandy. See that that's wild because just
think about it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I love what's happening in basketball because usually it's
the same blue bloods that you see the Dukes, Kentucky's
schools like that, and then Gonzaga you throw them in
there as well. You got ukont But to see, in
the tournament, every team has an opportunity and you just
have to play your best brand of basketball when you
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were on the court. So there's something obviously magical about
March madness because you know anyone could win and there
in lies and then the man is sure. But I
just try not to participate from the form of filling
out a bracket. I'll watch, but I'm not feeling out
a bracket because I get too invested and if something
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goes sideways get I get frustrated.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I don't want to do that to myself. That's sir.
I don't get frustrated. I just oh, okay, I got
that one wrong. See, but see how invested are you
in it?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Then you feel like your bracket but you just said, well,
a team that's a centerella team, they beat a higher seed,
and you'll follow that team in.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Root for I mean, like, at the risk of being
that dude, my brackets are usually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I'm kind of in the same boat there, And also
it'll back. I'm glad to do it, but I also
having a perfect bracket I think is like considerably less
likely than winning the lottery.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Extreme like no one has ever done it, no.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
One has ever done it, and I think it's like
incredibly far from It's like no one ever had a
perfect So like I go in expecting to miss some
so when I'm the same thing, like if I bought
a lottery ticket, I'm not super bummed out if I
miss out on the lottery, but I went like.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Five ten months pretty happy.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You expect to lose, You expect you That's what you
just said. You expect to lose.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Man, if you play the lottery and you're expecting to win,
I think you're going to be out a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't. By the way, the chances of picking every
game correctly are one in nine point two quintillion, when
you are more likely not only to win the lottery,
but to win the lottery the next week.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
As well as you are to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wind to predict every game in the in a bracket
if you get a.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Perfect bracket on Twitter, I've seen Twitter's prom seeing a
trip to Mars, which I think you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Mathematician Jiff Bergan said that you had a better chance
of winning the lottery multiple times than filling out a
perfect bracket.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Say, I don't know about that trip to Mars, because
that's like six to eight months to get there.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Leave me on the trip to Mars. Where's where's this
where sign up? I guess you go and asks and
do it. I'm out. I'm not doing that. It's on
it's on Twitter. Used to sign up? Yeah, absolutely, I've
seen Interstellar. I don't want no part of it. Good.
Do you think we're gonna go to the black hole?
I'm just you don't know. It's it's why, that's why
it's called space. It's a lot of it out there.
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We said, we said probes there we got. We had
a little robot on Mars. That's a roll bot, right.
I mean, I know.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
You're a very smart and articulate guy, but the idea
of the human body right on a trip to Mars
six to nine months to get there, I'm good, and
then you have to origin do all this stuff and
then you got six to nine months to come back.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I don't you know what. That's just that's like
two years. I'm off Twitter and I don't have the deal. Trolls, No,
get me out here.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm on my way to Mars. Deuces.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, now what see I've seen the Interstellar in in
the Martian with Damon.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, those movies. I'm good. Nope, I don't need to
be there. I don't think we're landing on Mars in
this scenario, are we? For Yeah, I think you are.
I think that's the implication. You're landing on Mars. Then
they give you a trip to where you get to
land on Mars.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I mean, I think we could talk about, like you
going to be able to last.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
They're they'n if they'd be able to hold up their
end of the bargain if someone were to hit that
one in however many.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Quintillion odds quintillion in theory.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yes, they're saying they would put you on the Mars surface,
which I I mean I quickly I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Come on, wait a minute, you're not going to travel
six to nine months and just do a dry by.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Okay. If you look out to your window on the left,
you see Mars. Okay, now we're just now are we
doing this?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Because, like you know, feels like false advertising here if
I get to perfect bracket, here's.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
The reason I'm saying, let me tell you guys something.
I'll let you in a whole secret.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I legitimately thought I was going to be the first
human being on Mars for far longer in my life
than I should have thought that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
What gave you that inclination my whole life. That's for
the reason I joined the military in the first place.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I was like, okay, and the easiest way to do
this to get on the first expedition of Mars, is
gonna be the comms officer because everybody el supposed to
be the pilot, the commander. So I'm gonna go to
the comm's route because it's gonna be the least sought
after job, you know, I man, I was. I was
convinced I was gonna you know, I'm gonna be an astronaut.
I'm gonna go I'll be on the first mission of Mars,
all that kind of stuff. I was convinced that that
was a thing for way longer in my life than
I should have been.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, this seems like it's right up your alley. Yeah,
the dream is not that armstrong for the Mars are strong, Aldro.
It doesn't matter I volunteer his tribute. I will absolutely.
I would absolutely be the first person on Mars. You'd
be I mortal, You'd be the first human being on
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another planet.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Bro. I mean, for some people, they're on this planet
and they're still on another planet.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Technically speaking, I'm just saying you would be immortal at
that point. Now, as long as as long as human
recorded history is around, you would be immortal. I'm good man,
Because anything can happen in space.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Cool, I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yes, but it takes six six to nine months.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
To get there, so if something goes wrong, it's.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Gonna take them that amount of time to try to
reach it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Now, I'm be honest, if something goes wrong in space, yeah, submersible,
but we're gonna if something goes wrong, I'm not gonna
feel it anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's over.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No, listen, I'd rather be the guy to say that.
I know a guy who went to Mar as opposed
to me wanting to go.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I am not that adventurous.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm not, Nope, I'm absolutely I am absolutely absolutely that guy.
So yeah, I don't you know, that's that's I would
you would?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You wouldn't go to Mars. I would. I would go
to Mars. I would go to Mars. Okay, I don't know,
I don't know if i'd want to the first one.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I get Ben's argument, but then also you get there
and it's like okay.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I mean, what do you do? It's all desert. You
know that's kind of the but the immortality all in
that school. I just would worry.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
What if you go that way and then you're like
the third guy and no one rovers who's the third.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Person on the moon? Oh go, we're going I'm the first.
I'm elbowing my way to the front. I'm just what,
I'm shoving people up the way.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And now there's an issue on a shuttle, right, there's
an argument over who's going to be the first, because
that's no argument.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Would I get on that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I had a perfect racket, So I don't care how
much experience you have as ass trust.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Sir, someone's gonna be ready for their one small step
for man moment and they're going to catch.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
A bow to the back of the spine.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, they're gonna pull someone's core where it supplies oxygen
or something. Now it's gone in a whole different direction.
But I'll go to Jupiter, right, I'll do that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yes, wait, wait, wait, you you won't.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You don't want to go to Mars because you'll be
in space for six to my months. But you Jupiter's
further out and you gotta go through that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Trull I'm talking about Jupiter, Florida.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I was like, man, come on now, I would like.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Six nine months away. I was like, bro, they got
PlayStation on the on the shuttle, playing video games on
the shuttle. I'm sitting it up, sitting there. Yeah, we
got the we got the ten.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Point Back at Earth, I played Call of Duty with
the highest latency of all time.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
They don't even shower on the shuttle. They use it
wet naps, right, that's what you use it for six months,
you're using wet.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Napps, you know, like whatever, it does not bother me.
I would absolutely go no, I can't do it. Can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'll do the show from space. Can't do it on
our way to Mars country tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
What you do a cruise?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
What about like a cruise, a year long cruise, like
six month cruise around the world.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Oh that's too much water, dude. I'm a year long cruise.
I'm going to do that two weeks doing nasty those things.
Oh they look.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I was just trying to find a cruise, trying to
find a non space cruise before.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, I hasn't interest me. I'm on the same boat
as you. I was trying to find an earth bound Equila.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, it's like, are you a fan of avectious disease
in diarrhea?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You can stay at home.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
With the oh no man After that Italy story, what
was it the Catalina mixer?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No not cass people get that reference to No, we
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
I've been with old Brian mcferguson Zach Seekers back there
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and hose you got my Catalina white mixer reference? After all,
the Nuggets have started off cold in the first quarter
of their game as the La Lakers come out red
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hot their Danci she had like twenty points in the
first quarter. You'll Ktchen Murray both sitting in that one.
So not exactly a full strength Nuggets team, but ugly
start to that one once.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Again defending the perimeter.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Is it's still a problem with the Nuggets, even with
their reserves, because the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Nine three pointers. I think they're nine to fourteen right now.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And these is those types of situations that you can't
allow to happen because the biggest thing for me, Ben
ever takes no talent. You just have to decide we're
not gonna allow them to shoot anymore three pointers.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, yeah, and you need to. They're nine or fourteen
from downtown right now. Lakers are nine or fourteen from
downtown right now.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And the Lakers lead the Nuggets with about two and
a half left in the first forty two twenty four doncicch,
like I said, twenty points in the first quarter already
on seven of ten shooting from the field.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And with that, I think I think I need a beverage.
Let's do an NFL six bag. It's time for the
NFL six bad.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'm going to take a year insight and inside information
you can't find anywhere else I know.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
What starting off here with Netflix's big announcement today. Netflix
announced they will be bringing.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Back quarterback for a season two.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
A couple of years ago, they looked at four different
quarterbacks and kind of the behind the scenes of their
NFL season. This year, they're bringing it back after looking
at receivers in twenty twenty three twenty twenty four, they
followed Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins, and then Jared Goff.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So I'm curious what narrative.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Are you both most excited to watch Joe Burrow trying
to carry that lifeless Bengals defense to the playoffs, Jared
Goff and becoming a local hero in Detroit, or Kirk
Cousins slowly losing the starting job.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
To Michael Pennock.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I'm probably most interested in Kirk Cousins losing his job, But.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Hi, I get I don't know, why would you bring
Cousins back for round two? That one doesn't make much
sense to me. They're more exciting, dynamic storylines.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Is just felt like a miss on their part in
terms of who they followed.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Why Why did I get the.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Rookie Jayden and Daniels in there and have an exciting,
you know, an exciting rookie you could have followed in
that season the regression of c J.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Stroud and you're trying to a little better storylines.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I guess I made it just to see the Kirk
Cousins handling his demotion. But I mean, he's a classic dude,
so you know he's gonna be all right with it
as far as that kind of stuff goes.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
See anything related to Kirk Cousin losing his job because
Atlanta Foger should have never paid him that bag in
the first place. Right, that was a desperate team. Now
I love what you're saying in the angle of Okay, well, hey,
follow Patrick Mahomes after losing to the Super Bowl in
the way that you did Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Hey, I want to see that Hurts.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
How did Hurts handle the situation with all the fame
coming for all beating the Chiefs in that Super Bowl?
More importantly, think about Josh Allen. He was the MVP.
That is a better storyline. But if you want to
get better than that, follow boat Knicks around and figure
out how this young guy goes into his second year
to lead this team after taking them to the playoffs
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after an eight to nine year drop.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
See that is more worth watching than Kirk Cousins. Well,
we already know who he is. I'm with I would
have loved to see a rookie angle. I will say
I'm excited to see.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Joe Burrow deal with the frustration of this season, because
I think it was very palpable in the December January
stretch that he was a little annoyed with the fact
that the arriving such a great offensive season and still
we're on the outside looking in at the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Plus I'm there for the backdrop when he found out.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
His house got broken into and the lady that reported
it was not the one he was seeing.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Do you think that gets mentioned in the show? I
wonder that'll be an interesting episode. That would be very
interesting for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Wo.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
The Houston Texans made a pair of big moves today
extending to Neil Hunter. They're starry ed rusher and signing
Cam Robinson formerly the Vikings and the Jacksonville Jaguars, to
be the replacement at left tackle. What do you think
of Houston's offseason so far and their early plan to
rebuild their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, I understood why they dealt Tonsol that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know, They've got the problem with drafting second and
third overall in the draft is if you hit on
both those picks at the quarterback and the edge rusher,
those are two the most expensive positions in football, and
you're gonna have to pay them both at the same time.
In cgsdrad Will Anderson, So they knew that they needed
to get a move on, getting cheaper and getting younger
at certain positions. As far as that goes you could
afford to pay tonso if you're gonna be paying those
guys down the line, and Tunsil wanted a new deal, so.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I sort of get that.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Cam Robinson, I mean, well, it can't get any worse.
I mean, he was terrible last year, one of the
one of the worst offensive tackles in football, so it
sort of they can't get worse, you know, getting him
on the cheap and doing all that, that's I mean,
I get it. That's just taking a flyer on somebody.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Daniel Hunter. Yeah, extending him was a good idea. I mean,
he's been good.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
This is the time to pay him if you're gonna
pay him, because all the money will come out over
the first two years and then it'll be tied to
pay will Anderson after that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So I started get doing that now.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Well, adding Cam Robinson allows you to fill the hole
on the offensive line, and the Migo Ryans said, you know,
hang listen, they're trying to get younger on the offensive line.
And that was something that Larrman Tompson said the team
told him and why they kind of gave him an
opportunity to be traded, and he traded him to Washington
but Danil Hunter, he's been productive since he's been in
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the league, signed massive deals with the Houston Texans, and
knowing as though you have a defensive mind.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And head coach and he so used to having edge
rush pressure.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I mean with Will Anderson on one side, Yeah, you
need Daniel Hunter because they're hoping that the sophomore swamp
that CJ. Stroud went through, that's not gonna happen in
year three, So they're gonna need it from a defensive standpoint.
So I like what the Houston Texas have done.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I think they need to do it, but I wish
we were getting some better names. There are some great
ones out there, but all three of the guys they
added are where we're bottom five at their respective positions
in pressure radio outlass and it.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Looks like they're gonna be coaching them up. Sorry, all
right there.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There's been recent buzz about the Falcons maybe trading Tyler Algier.
I've seen some Broncos country pining over the Falcons backup
running back. Do you think the Falcons will trade Tyler Algier?
And if show would slash, should the Denver Broncos be
in on the former BYU prospect?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It depends.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean like, no wrong, I love Tyler Ougier and
I would love him a Broncos uniform.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
What I don't like is she's trading for him.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't like unless you're losing, you know, a seventh
round or something like that, sixth round or seventh rounder.
I don't like burning draft picks any earlier than that up.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
On those kinds of moves.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
The last thing you want to do is bart up
an asset that you get, you know, and then turn
around and have to pay another guy coming in, because
then you're you're doubling up on giving up expendables and
stuff to pay.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So philosophically, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I love the player, but if you're not get him
for a six round or last then no.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Well I was here.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
He had about four point seven yards in the Falcons offense
last year, and then anytime Bijeon was out he came
in and filled in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
From a decent standpoint, but I agree with Ben.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
When it's one thing, if a guy is available when
he's out there from a free agent, maybe you can
keep the tires on him and then.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Bring him in.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But if you have to give up draft capital, very
important draft capital I say, going to the draft because
you have so many talented young guys that you don't
have to pay a lot of money. So may you
get that walm up blue Light Special?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, I think best s boath worlds.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You kind of go into the draft and if six
seventh round rolls around and you know you don't like
how the board's falling, maybe reached out to the falcons
then and then try to do a swap kind of
like we saw with John Franklin Myers last year and
we saw how well that paid off.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah. I think so you get to that point you
haven't been able to solve it the way you want,
that's when you start looking at those kinds of moves.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Four. I'm going to get into some rule change news now.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Today the Green Bay Packers officially proposing NFL rule that
would effectively ban the Philadelphia Eagles tush push, not just
the Eagles doing it, but all NFL teams. This was
rumored back a few weeks ago, I think at the
first Competition Committee meeting. Do you think this is a
good move by Green Bay or do you think it's
a little soft? And then outside of that question about
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how Green Bay is conducting business.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Do you think the tush bush should be allowed or not?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I don't think I think it should be a penalty
if a player is pushed or pulled instead of being
under their own power, so that like, I'm not against
the toush push as a concept because it's legal right now,
but I don't believe the players should be allowed to
be pushed in or pulled into the endze like you
have to get there.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
To your own in my in my world, so I
would rework it so that the ruling was you couldn't
push our our players pull players for gains, and then
that would effectively eliminate that play as a play.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
But we've seen plays last season where players were pulled
forward in heads exactly and there wasn't anything called in.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So if you're not doing that, then why.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Even penalize the guys for executing.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The play that most teams can't really stop.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Like Buffaloes try to execute it and they fail miserably
against Kansas City. But Philadelphia is one of the teams
that they pioneered and they've got to become experts at
the test push.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'm not for banning the play. I'm for banning the concept.
So unless you're banning.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
All pushing and building of players, then I am not
for banning that play.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
If you understand that, You guys understand what I'm saying.
To answer your question of whether the Packer is a
sault for.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Doing this, Yes, especially when they tried to do it
one time, and I think part of their arguments anyone
could do it, And then they did it one time
and Jordan Love fell over his own feet and fumbled.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, and that's probably why they would have banned it
so they don't try to attempt it again.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah. Look, I'm not saying they're soft, but the Green
May mascot is sharping five today the girls. Sorry.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
The Detroit also proposed the rule change that would make
it so that defensive illegal contact and defensive horn fading
penalties no longer would automatically result in a first down.
Is I'm sure you know that the listeners might not.
It's a five yard penalty as it currently stands now
where I think ten for legal contact, and no matter
the yard is gained, they automatically get.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Offensive first down.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Do you think the NFL should adopt this and this
rule change? Detroit did it to try and create more
offensive defensive bounds. Do you think the NFL should adopt
that rule change? And Nick, as a former defensive player,
are there any rule changes you would like to see
the NFL adopt to try and create more offensive defensive balance?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, what do you know?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The team that led the league in defensive illegal contact
and defensive holding wants to change some of the ways
that it's penalized.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
What are these?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Here's my thing about that is when you get you
have to have you have to revert back to the
current rules set once you get inside a certain number
of minutes at the end of the game, because otherwise
you're going to get down to it. People are just
got a defensive hold because there's no there's no you know,
it's five yards.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You're only gonna get five yards burn it's gonna burn clock.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So it has to be a first down right now,
otherwise you're going to get teams abusing the rule using
the loophole at that point in time. Overall, do I
think it should automatically be a first down?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I think the five yards and if it results in
a first down, but once you get inside of two minutes,
since an automatic first down, I mean, I hate to
have two sets of rules, but in order to get
people from from abusing the clock, you're gonna have to see.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
For me, I look at this and I call it
the joy but a Flacco rule because when Flakka was
playing for the Baltimore Ravens, he would just throw the
ball in the air right and hope that it's a
spot file because the defender maybe tripped, stumbled, or didn't
look back for the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So for me, I never liked that rule.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I mean, if you want to say, you know five yards, fine,
But as far as rules that I would like to
see change from an offensive standpoint, one of them, like
the league talks about safety for all players, but at
the same time, you got a six three hundred and
twenty pound guard pulling around, but they tell the dB
you can't cut him. You got to stand there and
allow him to run you over. I don't like that rule.
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So if I'm trying to force with force and you'll
give me some give as far as that is concerned,
I mean, yeah, I like that, But allowing a guy
to just turn the corner and plow over smaller defenders,
I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
What do you think about making it like a ten
yard penalty, like offensive holdiness. You know, it would create
some of those automatic first downs.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It wouldn't always do it if there was a sack
or something earlier.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It wouldn't change a third and seventeen into a first down.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But it also might curb the loophole you were just
talking about that. I don't know about ten yard. I
think five yards is fine for defensive holding. Illegal contact
should be a spot foul to me, especially you know,
lighton game. Like I said, there's the abuse. You worry
about the abuse portion of it, or manipulating the rules
later on in games. During the most part of the game,
I think it's pretty fair seeing it with.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
The legal contact. And maybe I'm being biased because I'm
a former defender. Well, what happens with the OPI If
you're gonna allow both guys to fight for the ball, Okay,
that's balanced.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
But I mean, if you can call it, you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Know, defensive paths and aferance, you damn sure well by
the call offensive pass and thefrance as well.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And they need to be better about that because I mean,
right now it's when the arm is extended, but even
then they don't call it all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
There's a little too much push off in the NFL
right now. On the offensive side, six.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Troyd had a busy day proposing rules to the NFL.
They also proposed a rule change that would change how
the NFL playoffs are formatted. The seven teams that naked
would stay the same for division winners, three wildcard teams,
but rather than seating them, where one through four are
the division winners and then you have the three wildcard
teams following one through seven would be based on overall records.
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So instead of the Chargers having to travel to the
division winner Texans, for example, the Texans would have had
to travel to LA to play the Chargers. Also would
have affected a lot of the NFC matchups with how
good the NFC North was this year.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Do you like this prospective perspective rule? And do you
or do you.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Prefer division winners automatically being rewarded with.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Home field advantage? I hate swing your division. You don't
have to worry about standas story. It is definitely you
know that simple.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But I understand the argument because if I'm not mistaken,
in the NFC a couple of years ago, wasn't it
a team that was I think it was Seattle they
had the.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Nine record. Pamers got in at seven eight and one.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, to mean no, no, if you are seven to
nine team, you should not be hosting. I'm all for
the teams with better records in your division or even
in the conference being able to host opposed team that's
sub five hundred.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I wonder some kind of with you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It feels weird when you have one of these teams
with a losing record hosting a playoff game against like
an eleven and six quality wild card team.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
But I'm also kind of with Ben, like I like
the way it's always been.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Maybe you have like an asterisk rule for you know,
you automatically get a home field advantage unless you're seven
and ten or eight nine and one or something ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But then that that screws one of those teams that
had a better record, they being the same conference, different division,
but they had a better overall record than the.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Team that's hosting. To me, I just think that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You now you or are awarding a team that's downstairs.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
When your division don't have to worry about it, and
you know the end of the day, when your division,
you're hosting you're hosting a game.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Okay, well, okay, what about like this past season, we
saw Minnesota with a great record. You saw Detroit with
a great record as well. I mean I think Detroit
was the number one seed, but the Minnesota had to
go on the road. Yeah, I mean that makes no
sense because you got so many good teams in your
division win the division.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
What I'm just saying, what the division the Texans where
Texas had a crap division and they still got the
host of they still have to host the game.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
What happens when you got teams who are in a
great division and three of the four teams are great,
but the team that's hosting they don't have a better record.
But just so, what happens the four teams in their
division are terrible?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
How do you how do you justify that be greater
than the team that win your division? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Just I'm one of those people, like I'm not ever
we didn't you know the wild to me wildcard? Get
in with wild cards. I'm not here to give wild
cards any any love. Like you made the why you
made it by being second in your division anyway, Like
I'm not trying to reward you with home games couldn't
you argue.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You know, it's almost more impressive a team like you know,
the the Vikings make it at thirteen and four considering
how hard the road was they had.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
To get this.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I mean team making a bad NFC South making it
a nice think about it.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You got to play Chicago, who sucked out loud twice,
and you got to play Green.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Bay really wanted it good last year, but they made
the playoffs the NFC.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, so teams are pretty Minnesota and within uh Detroit,
all those teams with quality teams made it was kind
of yeah last year and Chicago sucked out lout better
than some of the teams and the bad divisions.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yes, I'm just saying when your division, don't have to
worry about it. Whatever, Man, all you gotta.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Do is can get that dumb and you don't have
to worry about it.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Easy to say, hard to do, especially when you got
three teams of the four in your division that are
playing great football.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
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