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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nick ferguson Sex Figers with Him five six sixty nine
zero is the text slimic show tonight, Park Gabriel gonn
join us a little bit later, Romanvin maybe as well.
Efforting efforting, Yeah, we'll see. Roby's interviewing Hunter Goodman and
Goodman played his way to an all star birth as
uh as it were a bright spot for the Rockies,
who not exactly had a whole lot of them this season.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Nick, how was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Vision?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
On my weekend was spectacular? It feels like you're kind
of glowing here.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Kind of got interview though, all did we only talk
about or use the phrase glowing when we're referencing maybe
maybe a woman who is uh uh, she's been dating
and now she's followed her a person or a woman
who might be pregnant.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And she's glowing because of her skin. Well, I don't
think you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
No, I'm not pregnant. Are you expecting No, I'm not expecting.
I'm expecting a good show tonight. That's about up the
bar a little show, maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Setting the bar a little high maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But that would be the only reason. Uh, I'm gone.
But great observation.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're gonna shoot for aniocrity and if we clear it,
so be it. Yeah, I mean, you know, relaxing.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It feels like summertime finally started starting to feel like summer,
and I think it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Felt like summer like two weeks ago. Okay, yeah, but understand,
I just late.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
To the party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, usual, You're just you're.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just kind of late to the party because usually after
like Memorial Day, that's kind of like the early kickoff, yeah,
to the summer than usually it starts with blockbuster movies and.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So on and so.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But it was raining and everything last week, so I
did really feel like the starter us. So we have
more rain than the city of Seattle through this part
of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, first of all, what happens here? We are the
Mile High City.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Here's what I'll tell you, right, I would rather have
those late April showers than a snowstorm, so YouTube, Yeah,
I don't want the snow right now, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I am, I am all four.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean, it's just been he's been a lot of
rain here lately, relatively speaking.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, I mean, I'm not a meteorologist, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I can see you, I can see.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I can see you here on the north Western's winds
that's coming in from the south Hanes.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, but you know, pressures through exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But you know, it's been kind of like we went
through like a drought here in Dinmer, Colorado. So I
welcome the rain now, I'm not welcoming the no and
the two by two or on the Noah's.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Type of guy walking to Lions into my apartment house.
I said, no, no, I'm not about that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But to know that the trees, the grass looks a
little greener, and you know what that means, Ben, I
mean that bleeds right into you know what's right around
the corner. Toronco's had Mini camp that it's taking place tomorrow,
and that means that we're only you know, months away
from the start of the football already read Crank.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm ready. I'll be down there to make
camp all week. I'm ready for it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm ready. What do you eyeballing in particular down there?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know what? I Okay, so OTAs is a lot
different from Mini Camp and so many regards for me,
it's still the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We had the whole JK.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Dobbins situation, and hopefully we see you know tomorrow a
more motivated running back room where things look a little different.
But for me, I'm still looking for the same things.
I'm looking for the emergence of Troy Franklin, right that
guy to continue to show up.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We know your guy, you know, you.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Know, I can't say you're a guy without saying his name.
So but but I purfase it by saying your guy
to Von Vley, We're gonna get a chance to see
more of him. But for me, some of the other guys,
I just want to see kind of step up, Troy
Franklin being one of those guys, and then see how
does this linebacker situation, how does it manifest and work
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itself out? Because right now you're projected two starting linebackers
are both still coming injury.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah all right, I mean coming back off injury.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It gives some of the other guys a lot jucenders
justice Chortonard got a lot of you know, sorry time
last year, opportunity to get grooved in.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But that still is a position of concern for me.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The Bengals released Remaine Pratt today. I got a lot
of questions about things I would.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Be a fan of that I don't believe the Broncos
are going to do that. Now, why do you think
the Broncos wouldn't be a fan of that? I don't
know if they would be or wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I think Jermaine Pratt has a particular destination of mind.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And so that's it. Sounds like you've heard. I'm ben
I mean news man, I hear. I hear stuff every
now to get little rumbling. Yeah, he I hear that
he's interested in the Colts. We'll see, we'll see how
that goes.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But he would be reuniting with his forward defici. So
you know that's that's certainly something to keep your eye on.
And the Colts, by the way, have announced the I
don't know if you saw that the leadership structure changed.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You see that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, well, and you know I saw that, and obviously, immediately,
even though I know the Broncos already have their ownership,
I immediately thought about how the Bolling situation could have
worked out had there been this type of structure and
not outside interference, If that makes any sense.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Man, That's all that's extended to what I'm gonna say
about that. This one's sort of interesting because it's not
like with with the Bronco situation. There are all these
hurdles you had to go through to get somebody there,
and then in the end, you know, they wound up just.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Just selling with this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You've got three, you know, three children here, and it
looks like that they've got at all. Three of our daughters,
carli Ers, Gordon, Casey, Foyt, and Kayle and Jackson are
going to service owners ers.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Gordon will assume the CEO role or principal owner, but
the others will have.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And they've all been with the team since the twenty
twelve season. The others will have extended roles as well.
Floyd will serve as co owner and executive VP. Jackson
will be the co owner and chief brand officer as
well as the president of the Colts Foundation.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So they've all got the thing. But it's interesting to
me that they've got this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think a lot more they got a lot more
savvy about how to pass this thing down since the
Bowlin and Broncos Tobaco.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well, then anytime you allow third party influence, it destroys
any communication and these to the house of cards falling
down if you alive. And I've always said this and
I'm not saying anything that I don't truly believe and
I don't think i'll I'm out of pocket by saying this.
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I truly believe, by knowing some of the Bowling kids myself,
that if they were allowed to kind of get in
the room and figure this out without outside in the aference,
things would have worked out where the team still would
have been in the Bowling family name, and they would
have been able to continue and build upon their father's legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So obviously, when I saw this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
With the Colts and the fact that these three women
they all the time of it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, they were working within the organization. Yeah, we see.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's with the proper leadership saying we're welcoming the people.
That's why I look at Jerry Jones and said, what
you want to say about Jerry Jones, He's doing it
the right way. He bought a team because he said,
you know what, he wanted to be in a football business,
but being a business of football with his family. So
there are people in his family that are laid out
throughout the foundation. The only problem is Jerry's making too
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many decisions.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
They so, yeah, some of the hires they've made have
been have been interesting and the Jermaine Pratt will get
into a little bit more of that a little bit
later as well. The Houston Texans and also the signing
of Nick Chubb today.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Uh, do you think that's going to put.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Pressure potentially on the Denver Broncos to get the JK.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Dobbinson done?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, not at all for me. I don't know how
you feel about it, but I don't think. I think
one doesn't have to impact the other because ideas though,
despite what Derrick Henry has done, despite what we've seen
from Saquon Barkley, the league continues to devalue the running
back position. Yeah, and the Texans feel as though they
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have added value to their to their roster, and I
think Nick Schubb does that. But it's not going to
force Sean Payton and George Payton to go, well, what
the Texans did this? I think it's a one year
deal with escalators to kind of get it to five
million dollars or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, it's not necessarily the contract. To me, it's like
the dwindling market.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
If you want a veteran voice in that room, you're
starting to run out of options.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But see, this is where I phil the ball is
still now in the court of the Denver Broncos. Because
the longer and when you get a chance to discuss
this last year, as it pertains to JK. Dobbins, the
longer you're on the market as a player, I don't
care what position you play, you'd depreciate.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Like a car, right, your value continues to go down.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So maybe, and I'm speculating here, maybe the numbers contractually
were not in place that JK. Dobbins in his camp
fell comfortable with, so he walked away. But that's not
to say the deal can't get done. But when you
walking your way, you just lost.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Some more money.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
His only hope is that he has another team looking
to get into the mix, and that would now bring
the Broncos back to the table, like, hey, we want
to make sure we get you before someone else, especially
someone else like a Kansas City say that. Okay, well
they want to dip they toe in the JK.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Dobbs. Now that would change the Broncos mom potentially.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, and that's something to you know, to monitory with
that other player that got released today. With JayR Alexander,
two time Pro Bowl corner at released, they could even
find a try aid partner for him at the draft
winds up getting released all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We got corners on the market.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Corner is a position where you can't have enough bodies,
but you got Jairo Alexander, Jalen Ramsey sitting out there
available at this point and not finding takers.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, So this is where the business of football comes
in as it pertains to Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't know what your particular thoughts on him are.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Now if you have three or two, if you have
two good corners and you want to throw him in
the mix, yes, But for.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Me, he's lost. That cachet is being you know, like
the you know CB one.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, he's no longer that guy, but he provides a
veteran presence that's going.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
To cost you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And to me, if you are a team that I'm
giving you air quotes here, it feels as though you
were one play away.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Defensively, maybe you make that type of move.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
But as far as Jaira Alexander, as far as I
understand it, Ben, it was like they were looking to
kind of give him a haircut on this salary.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
So I'm sorry, let me understand this.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
NFL, so you want me to come in the league
and play well.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right now, there's a Hall.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Of Fame corner said that if you play well, they
pay well, right until they don't they don't. And now
I play well, I go to this paycheck and then
now you're telling me you.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Need me to take a pay cut. Yeah, we paid you,
but we need to take a little bit of that back.
And you know, by the way, we're gonna draft a replacement.
And yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
What Yeah, this is like okay, And this is where
fans sometimes get this confused, right because they are not
in this position. But if you are a player like
Jaya Alexander, you don't want to take a pay cut. Now,
if you're telling me we're going to reduce a little
of your salary, convert some of it into a signing bonus.
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Oh we got a new ball game here, be good.
But you want me to restructure and take money off
of Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Not taking money off my plate. You want to guarantee
stuff and mess with the cat.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
They we're good, we're good, and you're drafted mom and
face uh huh, come on dog, now I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, I'm not saving you money for that. No to
release me. Then do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I got a lot of questions about him. I don't
believe either Jayla Ramsey or.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Brood. Yeah we were good, Uh right, were good?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That was That was the thing, you know, the Pratt stuff,
you know. I mean maybe, but I think he's headed
the andy. We'll see how that goes. Five six, six,
nine zeros of text line. We got a text in here,
and I agree with this one. The seven too uss Fellas.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
We got lucky. The Bullins had to sell cash.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Poor ownership is not fun, and now we have the
wealthiest owners in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well there is some truth to it, because I mean
I didn't know this before because you think, well every
team has an owner. That owner is a billionaire. They
got they putting money right, they have.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
A closet, the body clause of the body closet. Before.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, they got the money closet and the money tree.
But you quickly learned that's not on how it works.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Some teams, just.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like most Americans, are living paycheck to paycheck, and you
need that season and you need that's why you have
those stadium license deals.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And I learned this ben when I went back to
get my master's in Sports administration as to understanding why
so many stadiums have other businesses names on the outside.
That's income and revenue coming in, right. And some individuals
are not like the Dallas cow Boys. They're not like
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the Pinner family where they're one of the wealthiest owners.
So it is a luxury and it gives the Broncos
opportunity from ownership standpoint where they can make renovations to
the stadium. They can make renovations to the facility. Because
for me, I took my son to the practice last
week and he was like, any minute they are building
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another facility when they already have one. I was like, yeah,
and he was like, what's gonna happen to this one? Oh,
they're gonna tear it down. He said, they're gonna do what.
I was like, Yeah, they're gonna tell this one now
and move it to that building.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And I was like, how about having pockets like that?
And that's the luxury of having the pin Or family
on the team. And let's be totally honest. Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Much how much each child actually received, but guess what,
no one's starving.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
From the sale right between what Pat had got split
up between you know, his heirs. Yeah, I think that.
I think the Texter has a point there. And I
think the Broncos did get lucky with the ownerships they've got.
They've got an ownership group of cares and it's willing
to spend the money and has the money to spend.
You know, you talk about cash poor ownership. I mean
that's part of the reason Mark Davis had to leave Oakland,
as part of the reason that the span House wanted
to leave San Diego for LA And it's part of
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the reason Cincinnati's having problems right now with needing to
you know, pay Trey Hendrickson after paying everybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They're cash poor.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And I know everybody said, oh, they're billion, but they are, like,
they don't have the free liquid cash to be able.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
To to do a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Cincinnati had to sell the naming rights to their stadium
for the first time ever just to pay Joe Burrow.
So you know, it's it's it is fascinating. But I
agree with the texture. I think we got lucky. I mean,
with all due respect to the Bolden family and everything else,
I think that their legacy stand Pats legacy stands where
it does in terms of the old time great owners.
But you know, when that money gets divvied up between
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your heirs and you know, and and then you have
some that are not going to be involved in that
and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it's you know, that's that's tough. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The guy that played for the Broncos got a chanced
to know some of the Bolding kids and.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Miss the b very closely. Obviously, it was disappointing.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
To see the team have to be sold, but knowing
as though he was sold to a group who understands
the standard and the tradition of Broncos football, and that's trying.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
To take it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They're trying to keep that alive, but also take it
to a whole different stratosphere.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And that's that's the big thing.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
When when a new owner come in, is he dumbing
down the organization he's purchasing or he's trying to take
it to a whole different level, because it's almost like
like corporate warfare.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We're gonna buy a company right.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
To dissolve the assets, right and then just kind of
sell them off. I'm glad that that's not the case
with the with the Broncos, and they're gonna be here
for many years to come.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean, obviously the biggest question is.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I know the lease for Empower Field is running out
I think about thirty so they got to figure out
something where they're gonna keep it there or they're gonna move.
And then where are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Move it to? Right? It's a lot, but just think
about it.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How deep do your pockets have to be where you
can put your feet up then and go?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You know what, I don't know. Do we leave it there?
Do we really? We couldn't get this land over here.
But it's gonna cost it, you know what. That's yeah,
let me break a break baffle change yes, because the
new facility I think is one hundred and twenty six
million for the new one, and said that pales in
comparison with a stadium, calls exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But just to say that you're building a new facility
attachment to the fieldhouse, it's one hundred and twenty six million. Oh,
by the way, the currently standing place right now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You may renovations.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So you may renovations, so break it down and you
don't really care about it.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I want to be that rich. I want to be
that rigged next year.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think it was a shack was like the different
rich and wealthy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, well he's talking about that. He said, yeah,
he's like, I'm rich. A guy who's wealthy's the guy
who was signing my Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And I was like, man, you know there's like as
a kid, that resonated so hard with me when you
know when he when he said that, because I'm like,
you know, yeah, there's there's rich and then there's wealthy. Yes,
and that is you know, that's like screwsman.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But if you are.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Writing checks to pay basketball player, like, oh my god, money.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I'm just saying, you know where I come from in
my neighborhood. You probably heard yourself. But it's a certain
type of description of type of money that is I
really can't say, right, but just just go through the
alphabets and you find it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, there's too better respects back that kind of money.
We come back.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I wean't to talk about this athletic director that just
got arrested for stealing thousands of dollars from her former
job with a corporate credit card. We got some NBA
Finals and some Stanley Cup talk.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It is a Broncos country tonight. We'll be back after this.
Ben's been all bright.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ny Ferguson Zach Seegers here five six sixty nine zero
is the text line.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I want to get into this story real quick. Weird
one out of Florida.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
A and M I'd Love director Angela Suggs was arrested
today after she allegedly stole thousands of dollars from her
former job with a corporate credit card. Suggs turned herself
into Leon County jail today, though she was later released
on bond. According to the Associated Press, she's facing several charges,
including felony grand theft, felony scheme to defraud, and also
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charged with four counts of false claims on travel vouchers,
which are misdemeanors in the state of Florida. Of Fischal
said that Suggs used a corporate credit card for personal
use and stole more than twenty four thousand dollars at
her previous job. Suggs allegedly made wire transfers, cash withdraws,
and personal purchases at casinos during business trips while she
was the CEO of the Florida Sports Foundation. An investigation
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was lost last fall, and an audit revealed that Suggs
allegedly falsified travel vouchers by filling the unauthor as charges
as meals or claimed they were accidents. Also reportedly failed
to completely repay the Florida Sports Foundation or personal expenses. Sogs,
who was a Florida A and M graduate, was hired
officially is the university's athletic director last fall after a
nearly seven year run with the Florida Sports Foundation. Among
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other things, Suggs hired for our NBA player and Toysman
Trophy winner Charlie Ward as the program's next men's basketball coach.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
In April.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Rattlers were fourteen and seventeen last season in the Swack
and they've not been to the NCAAAA tournament nearly two decades.
Florida and M released a statement saying university is aware
of the al allegations involving our athletic director Angela Suggs
while she was working with a former employer. Interim President
Timothy Beard said makes statement, well, the matters unrelated to
her duties as an employee a fam you were bothering
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the situation, and we'll respond in the future as appropriate.
Shades of remember the accountant from the Jags or whatever
that was running up the credit card.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, but was millions. He was millions.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And I have to say, I do advocate that anyone
does anything from a criminal standpoint, right, But my stance
has always been, if I'm gonna go down, I'm going down,
like Robert de Narrow did in Heat Going, I'm going
down really big. And apparently this whole situation, you know,
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as frouzen as it is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It was twenty four thousand.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Dollars, right, she could probably afford to pay that back
off her new salary, we.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Guess, But once again she used a corporate card for
personal reasons and she didn't really make the proper accounting
for as far as bills and travel.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
But once again it's just like why do this?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It makes absolutely no sense and it destroys your reputation.
So now you have felony counts against you, the job
that you now have at FAM. You now that's gone, right,
and socially you're destroyed over twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Now, I know twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Don't get me wrong, It is a lot of money, right,
But if you're going to go to the dark side.
You might as well go ahead and fully embrace it,
not just wear black T shirts VNCK T shirts like
Benjamin Albright does every single night.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, you go all in, right, you get some designer
v T shirts, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Saying yes, made out of Kashmir or whatever whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, some fans competion. I don't know's i'll pack of what?
I don't know. I just threw out a packer. I
don't know, all right, shirts said.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know you wear it sin chill and T shirts
in the summer because you can just throw them away
because your pagas are that deep, because you are up
to criminal activity. I know you guys are driving around saying, well,
what is Nick Ferguson talking about as far as criminal activity.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm just saying I'm not advocating for young Zach.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm not, but I'm just saying, if you're going to
do that, I mean, they'll have your reputation to show
up for twenty four K.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, twenty four I mean like that's such a This
was like I feel like I'm Nickel and Diamond im
to get back, you know, because i mean, like twenty
four grand in vast scheme of things is not that
much money.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
That's so weird to me, is it? Because I like,
and that was the comparison I was gonna make it,
because this.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Isn't like the guy from the Jags who stole you know,
how was he like fifty million dollars or whatever?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean, he's buying an exotic car. He's got like
two exotic cars. He's taking trips, he's bucking five million dollars. Yeah,
that dude stole twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now he was buying you know, fan private jet rides
and cars and watches and spend the money on DraftKings
and all that, and yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
One of those things. Look at me, mom, I've made
it on top of the world. You gonna go.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Down and blaze the glories, not twenty four k Yeah,
come on, man.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Twenty four thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's like, oh, you're you're a bad person. Like that's
you know, that's like I'll sing the steel, yeah, like
you just nickel and diamond, you know, and then trying
to and deliberately false because every the audits are so sophisticated.
Now you're not gonna get away with it. Like here's
this one of those sis, the years of yesteryear where
you could claim paper accounting and everything's digital.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
They got making forensic auditors in there. Now there's no
way you get away with that. Twenty four K man.
You ball on a budget.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
If you're gonna spend years of your life in prison,
you might as well spend years of your life driving
exotic cars.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
They make private jet flights through.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
The money in cold stories Bitcoin where they can't find
it out because.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
At some point, you don't be a lot behind bars
dreaming about what you could have done instead of what
you should have done.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And the first thing, let me be totally anticu.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You don't do this to begin with said first and first,
first and foremost, let me put that out.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
You don't put yourself in.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
This type of situation, but for some reason you find
yourself thinking about this.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Make it worth a while.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, Also, for what little it's worth, it's gotta be
one of the least cool stories among the fellow inmates.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
What did you do to get it here?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I was charging off the crab legs at the casino. Hey, Joe, Lie,
I don't even get I'm charging the crab legs on
my company card and.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I took this out. You're not gonna believe this right
it trusts me. It's gonna knock you on the full laughing.
Tell them again what you're in here for.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I stole from my company. I got some crab legs.
And how much did it cost you? How much did
you rock up for.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
A few years? I bought twenty four thousand. Get out
of here. It's gonna be that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I murdered someone. You're looking across the table. While you're
looking across the table, leave it's a been ill.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I mean, we're talking about financial corruption, I know, but
that's who they're going.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
To be compared to, oh man, white collar crime.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You think about it, this man she probably has enough
money now off the new job to just make restitution
more well maybe more you can, I mean, you know,
I mean it depends on if they want to pursue
the criminal charges or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You could just set them an offer. Here's the money,
I pay it back with you know, then there you go.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So if someone in this predicament were to say, you
know what, yeah he got me misappropriation of funds twenty
four k.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
How about I pay that back with interest? Doesn't that
get me.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, that's basically.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, like if I were charged with that, if
I did, I would not do that because I know
I get caught. But if I were to do something
like that, I guess what, there's the first thing I
would do, Like, all right, well let me you know,
let me go take on a loan for twenty four
thousand dollars day.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's too late, man, you know it's late. Well, I
mean you can, I mean throw it out there. Do
you want the money? I'm willing to do this to
make restitution?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
How about this? How about we take the twenty four
k and the interest that you're talking about, and you
sit here right in adult time out.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I'm good on that, so you can think about it. No,
I'm good. I'm offering you this deal. You can have
the twenty four thousand, or you can put me in
time out. You go on the time out.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, all right, adult time out. I'll just keep that
twenty four grand. Then, somehow I don't believe that now
that nill hit you in restitution. Yes, the idea listening audience,
never put yourself in this type of situation. Always keep
and make sure that your.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Ethics are the most important thing in life outside of
your family.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You've got to make sure your ethics are tight.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If not, you're going to go down for some white collar,
blue collar clock crime and it's not going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Worth it in the end. It's not.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean for me, like you know, it's that
you do that and you offered all lunteer at some
kind of charity, you know, kids, charity things.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's white collar crimes. That's a white collar crime.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well no, no, no, no, no, no, she's she's under
the threshold for to be considered a white collar crime.
That's twenty four k no, to to be viewed as
a person that committed white collar crimes.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
We're talking about millions. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
By the way, this in case you guys are not aware,
this is a five to one C three nonprofit that
she stole from that.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Has to be more careful or not do it. You
know what, you got to talk about ethics. And I
was like, really, you gotta be more No no, no, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
What I was meaning when I said you gotta be
more careful, not that you have to be you're.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
No, you have to be more careful to not do it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Then did you see a slash Stone die today. I'm
sorry what slash Stone died today?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I must have missed that. Yeah, passed away at eighty
two years old. No, no way, that's man. That sucks. Yeah,
I was, and I say it got me to thinking
a little bit, like.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Aside from you know, ethical quandaries, aside as we discussed
in the last segment.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, who like, like what musician when they passed is
really gonna like rock you you know.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Like now, like when Michael Jackson passed. I mean I
was living in California when that happened, and that was.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That was like Prence died. That was a big one too.
Those were the two.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Musical guys that were played in my household at the time. Now,
I got to tell you a quick story when it
comes to slid Stone and Sling the family stone. It's
not a great story. Uh, very interesting one, okay. So,
uh there was an issue in the house one day,
was that father's house, and he had this large seventy
(29:02):
gallon tank and somehow it fell on the ground, right.
I may or may not had anything to do with it,
but everyone got in trouble that day, okay. And then
my father did something that was highly unexpected now, parents.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Disciplined their kids all the time, but I bet no
one was ever.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Disciplined while listening to Slide in the family shown danced
to the music.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I bet that right.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And I remember one of my buddies when I was
playing with the Jets, he gave me a Christmas gift.
You know what the CD was Slide fanl right, because
he knew of that story. So yeah, my father was
on some different stuff at the time. But if there
is a person now and even to say this, man,
I don't wish it will on anyone. Like when when
(29:54):
he Houston passed, that was a big thing, even though
you know what she was going through.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Personal wow. I mean you've got to think like jay
Z and Queen Bee, I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's devastating, you know that would that's gonna be devastating
whenever that happened. I'm not forecasting that. I wish them
longevity as long as they can. But to be asked
you a question that was something that would impact I
would say the culture.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, the culture. I know, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think that's one of those things like as as
you sit there and you try to think about like
who's the who is the seminal musical artist that when
they pass, uh is really gonna gonna mess with you?
And you get it right, Michael. And when Prince died,
that kind of stuff that I'll mess with you, you
know back when I was in high school in Cobain died,
you know, yeah, Bowie, that was it. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Probably That's a good one there.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But I I struggle to think, like who is Like
I can think of younger people that will remind me
of my age, you know when they pass, But I like,
there's not any I think most of the most of
the formative you know, maybe when Dave Grohl passes away
or something from the food Fighters, like that'll mess with me.
But yeah, I was struggling to think about that as
(31:06):
I as I saw this, I mean, there's gave mad
it to eighty two. My family tends not to have
the longest of lives, Okay, So eighty two would be
if I if I lived to be eighty two, I
would a full life. I would consider that a full life.
That's a full life, right Like Dave. Dave was in
here earlier, was talking about he was eighty two years young,
and I'm like, man, eighty two with my family. That's
that's making in the ways, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Growing up in Miami, I knew individuals who smoked, drank
and even ate pork, and they lived to the ripe
age of like ninety two.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Look at George Burns. It's just like.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Every time you saw George Birds he always had a
g or a cigar and look like he had some
cravasi in his hands.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah that man made one hundred.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Okay, So the individual of my neighborhood say, well, that's
what it took to live to that ripe old age.
Why we saw living healthy and then you just at
some point enter something that's not considered to be healthy.
That's when you kind of meet your demise.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
George Burns was like thirty five when the Great Depression
kicked off.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Wow, he died in ninety six. How old that guy was? Wow,
he was like years old.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The living is different now opposed to what it was
there because people was the really hard and it's like,
how are you living this long?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Living this hard?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I never yeah, I mean that was one of those
every time you saw him, he had ded alcoholity, had
a cigar.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yes, you know, that's just one of those. Uh, that's
just one of those things. I remember George Burns is
being being God. Oh yeah, ye oh God, you doubled. Yes,
that's that's my movie. I remember it most. I remember
George Burns being God.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
But that was That's one of those things like I
was like, I trying to figure out who who would
really rock me in my core but uh uh set
to on forces.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
All just admitted if anybody from Albert Eyes, I'll be devastated.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
You know what. That's that's there's a there's a bunch
of ABA fans, especially with the Mama Me and movies.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah and three, all three, says Stevie Wonder. That's a
good one. Yes, with Michael and Prince or within Paul
and Ringo die like the last of the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know, oh that might be something too. Yeah that
that that's one thing about it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
The musical people that you grew up with in drew
a connection because of the music. When they pass, it
is tragic for the fan base. This is why I
say athlete music style whatever man cling to these people
love them all while they're still here, because once they're gone,
that's it.
Nick ferguson Sex Figers with Him five six sixty nine
zero is the text slimic show tonight, Park Gabriel gonn
join us a little bit later, Romanvin maybe as well.
Efforting efforting, Yeah, we'll see. Roby's interviewing Hunter Goodman and
Goodman played his way to an all star birth as
uh as it were a bright spot for the Rockies,
who not exactly had a whole lot of them this season.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Nick, how was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Vision?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
On my weekend was spectacular? It feels like you're kind
of glowing here.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Kind of got interview though, all did we only talk
about or use the phrase glowing when we're referencing maybe
maybe a woman who is uh uh, she's been dating
and now she's followed her a person or a woman
who might be pregnant.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And she's glowing because of her skin. Well, I don't
think you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
No, I'm not pregnant. Are you expecting No, I'm not expecting.
I'm expecting a good show tonight. That's about up the
bar a little show, maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Setting the bar a little high maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But that would be the only reason. Uh, I'm gone.
But great observation.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're gonna shoot for aniocrity and if we clear it,
so be it. Yeah, I mean, you know, relaxing.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It feels like summertime finally started starting to feel like summer,
and I think it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Felt like summer like two weeks ago. Okay, yeah, but understand,
I just late.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
To the party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, usual, You're just you're.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just kind of late to the party because usually after
like Memorial Day, that's kind of like the early kickoff, yeah,
to the summer than usually it starts with blockbuster movies and.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So on and so.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But it was raining and everything last week, so I
did really feel like the starter us. So we have
more rain than the city of Seattle through this part
of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, first of all, what happens here? We are the
Mile High City.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Here's what I'll tell you, right, I would rather have
those late April showers than a snowstorm, so YouTube, Yeah,
I don't want the snow right now, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I am, I am all four.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean, it's just been he's been a lot of
rain here lately, relatively speaking.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, I mean, I'm not a meteorologist, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I can see you, I can see.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I can see you here on the north Western's winds
that's coming in from the south Hanes.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, but you know, pressures through exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But you know, it's been kind of like we went
through like a drought here in Dinmer, Colorado. So I
welcome the rain now, I'm not welcoming the no and
the two by two or on the Noah's.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Type of guy walking to Lions into my apartment house.
I said, no, no, I'm not about that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But to know that the trees, the grass looks a
little greener, and you know what that means, Ben, I
mean that bleeds right into you know what's right around
the corner. Toronco's had Mini camp that it's taking place tomorrow,
and that means that we're only you know, months away
from the start of the football already read Crank.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm ready. I'll be down there to make
camp all week. I'm ready for it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm ready. What do you eyeballing in particular down there?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know what? I Okay, so OTAs is a lot
different from Mini Camp and so many regards for me,
it's still the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We had the whole JK.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Dobbins situation, and hopefully we see you know tomorrow a
more motivated running back room where things look a little different.
But for me, I'm still looking for the same things.
I'm looking for the emergence of Troy Franklin, right that
guy to continue to show up.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We know your guy, you know, you.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Know, I can't say you're a guy without saying his name.
So but but I purfase it by saying your guy
to Von Vley, We're gonna get a chance to see
more of him. But for me, some of the other guys,
I just want to see kind of step up, Troy
Franklin being one of those guys, and then see how
does this linebacker situation, how does it manifest and work
(04:05):
itself out? Because right now you're projected two starting linebackers
are both still coming injury.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah all right, I mean coming back off injury.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It gives some of the other guys a lot jucenders
justice Chortonard got a lot of you know, sorry time
last year, opportunity to get grooved in.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But that still is a position of concern for me.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The Bengals released Remaine Pratt today. I got a lot
of questions about things I would.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Be a fan of that I don't believe the Broncos
are going to do that. Now, why do you think
the Broncos wouldn't be a fan of that? I don't
know if they would be or wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I think Jermaine Pratt has a particular destination of mind.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And so that's it. Sounds like you've heard. I'm ben
I mean news man, I hear. I hear stuff every
now to get little rumbling. Yeah, he I hear that
he's interested in the Colts. We'll see, we'll see how
that goes.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But he would be reuniting with his forward defici. So
you know that's that's certainly something to keep your eye on.
And the Colts, by the way, have announced the I
don't know if you saw that the leadership structure changed.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You see that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, well, and you know I saw that, and obviously, immediately,
even though I know the Broncos already have their ownership,
I immediately thought about how the Bolling situation could have
worked out had there been this type of structure and
not outside interference, If that makes any sense.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Man, That's all that's extended to what I'm gonna say
about that. This one's sort of interesting because it's not
like with with the Bronco situation. There are all these
hurdles you had to go through to get somebody there,
and then in the end, you know, they wound up just.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Just selling with this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You've got three, you know, three children here, and it
looks like that they've got at all. Three of our daughters,
carli Ers, Gordon, Casey, Foyt, and Kayle and Jackson are
going to service owners ers.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Gordon will assume the CEO role or principal owner, but
the others will have.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And they've all been with the team since the twenty
twelve season. The others will have extended roles as well.
Floyd will serve as co owner and executive VP. Jackson
will be the co owner and chief brand officer as
well as the president of the Colts Foundation.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So they've all got the thing. But it's interesting to
me that they've got this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think a lot more they got a lot more
savvy about how to pass this thing down since the
Bowlin and Broncos Tobaco.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well, then anytime you allow third party influence, it destroys
any communication and these to the house of cards falling
down if you alive. And I've always said this and
I'm not saying anything that I don't truly believe and
I don't think i'll I'm out of pocket by saying this.
(06:50):
I truly believe, by knowing some of the Bowling kids myself,
that if they were allowed to kind of get in
the room and figure this out without outside in the aference,
things would have worked out where the team still would
have been in the Bowling family name, and they would
have been able to continue and build upon their father's legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So obviously, when I saw this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
With the Colts and the fact that these three women
they all the time of it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, they were working within the organization. Yeah, we see.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's with the proper leadership saying we're welcoming the people.
That's why I look at Jerry Jones and said, what
you want to say about Jerry Jones, He's doing it
the right way. He bought a team because he said,
you know what, he wanted to be in a football business,
but being a business of football with his family. So
there are people in his family that are laid out
throughout the foundation. The only problem is Jerry's making too
(07:43):
many decisions.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
They so, yeah, some of the hires they've made have
been have been interesting and the Jermaine Pratt will get
into a little bit more of that a little bit
later as well. The Houston Texans and also the signing
of Nick Chubb today.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Uh, do you think that's going to put.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Pressure potentially on the Denver Broncos to get the JK.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Dobbinson done?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, not at all for me. I don't know how
you feel about it, but I don't think. I think
one doesn't have to impact the other because ideas though,
despite what Derrick Henry has done, despite what we've seen
from Saquon Barkley, the league continues to devalue the running
back position. Yeah, and the Texans feel as though they
(08:26):
have added value to their to their roster, and I
think Nick Schubb does that. But it's not going to
force Sean Payton and George Payton to go, well, what
the Texans did this? I think it's a one year
deal with escalators to kind of get it to five
million dollars or whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, it's not necessarily the contract. To me, it's like
the dwindling market.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
If you want a veteran voice in that room, you're
starting to run out of options.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But see, this is where I phil the ball is
still now in the court of the Denver Broncos. Because
the longer and when you get a chance to discuss
this last year, as it pertains to JK. Dobbins, the
longer you're on the market as a player, I don't
care what position you play, you'd depreciate.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Like a car, right, your value continues to go down.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So maybe, and I'm speculating here, maybe the numbers contractually
were not in place that JK. Dobbins in his camp
fell comfortable with, so he walked away. But that's not
to say the deal can't get done. But when you
walking your way, you just lost.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Some more money.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
His only hope is that he has another team looking
to get into the mix, and that would now bring
the Broncos back to the table, like, hey, we want
to make sure we get you before someone else, especially
someone else like a Kansas City say that. Okay, well
they want to dip they toe in the JK.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Dobbs. Now that would change the Broncos mom potentially.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, and that's something to you know, to monitory with
that other player that got released today. With JayR Alexander,
two time Pro Bowl corner at released, they could even
find a try aid partner for him at the draft
winds up getting released all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We got corners on the market.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Corner is a position where you can't have enough bodies,
but you got Jairo Alexander, Jalen Ramsey sitting out there
available at this point and not finding takers.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, So this is where the business of football comes
in as it pertains to Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't know what your particular thoughts on him are.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Now if you have three or two, if you have
two good corners and you want to throw him in
the mix, yes, But for.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Me, he's lost. That cachet is being you know, like
the you know CB one.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, he's no longer that guy, but he provides a
veteran presence that's going.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
To cost you.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And to me, if you are a team that I'm
giving you air quotes here, it feels as though you
were one play away.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Defensively, maybe you make that type of move.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
But as far as Jaira Alexander, as far as I
understand it, Ben, it was like they were looking to
kind of give him a haircut on this salary.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
So I'm sorry, let me understand this.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
NFL, so you want me to come in the league
and play well.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right now, there's a Hall.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Of Fame corner said that if you play well, they
pay well, right until they don't they don't. And now
I play well, I go to this paycheck and then
now you're telling me you.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Need me to take a pay cut. Yeah, we paid you,
but we need to take a little bit of that back.
And you know, by the way, we're gonna draft a replacement.
And yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
What Yeah, this is like okay, And this is where
fans sometimes get this confused, right because they are not
in this position. But if you are a player like
Jaya Alexander, you don't want to take a pay cut. Now,
if you're telling me we're going to reduce a little
of your salary, convert some of it into a signing bonus.
(11:47):
Oh we got a new ball game here, be good.
But you want me to restructure and take money off
of Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Not taking money off my plate. You want to guarantee
stuff and mess with the cat.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
They we're good, we're good, and you're drafted mom and
face uh huh, come on dog, now I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, I'm not saving you money for that. No to
release me. Then do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I got a lot of questions about him. I don't
believe either Jayla Ramsey or.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Brood. Yeah we were good, Uh right, were good?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That was That was the thing, you know, the Pratt stuff,
you know. I mean maybe, but I think he's headed
the andy. We'll see how that goes. Five six, six,
nine zeros of text line. We got a text in here,
and I agree with this one. The seven too uss Fellas.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
We got lucky. The Bullins had to sell cash.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Poor ownership is not fun, and now we have the
wealthiest owners in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well there is some truth to it, because I mean
I didn't know this before because you think, well every
team has an owner. That owner is a billionaire. They
got they putting money right, they have.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
A closet, the body clause of the body closet. Before.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, they got the money closet and the money tree.
But you quickly learned that's not on how it works.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Some teams, just.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like most Americans, are living paycheck to paycheck, and you
need that season and you need that's why you have
those stadium license deals.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And I learned this ben when I went back to
get my master's in Sports administration as to understanding why
so many stadiums have other businesses names on the outside.
That's income and revenue coming in, right. And some individuals
are not like the Dallas cow Boys. They're not like
(13:35):
the Pinner family where they're one of the wealthiest owners.
So it is a luxury and it gives the Broncos
opportunity from ownership standpoint where they can make renovations to
the stadium. They can make renovations to the facility. Because
for me, I took my son to the practice last
week and he was like, any minute they are building
(13:55):
another facility when they already have one. I was like, yeah,
and he was like, what's gonna happen to this one? Oh,
they're gonna tear it down. He said, they're gonna do what.
I was like, Yeah, they're gonna tell this one now
and move it to that building.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And I was like, how about having pockets like that?
And that's the luxury of having the pin Or family
on the team. And let's be totally honest. Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Much how much each child actually received, but guess what,
no one's starving.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
From the sale right between what Pat had got split
up between you know, his heirs. Yeah, I think that.
I think the Texter has a point there. And I
think the Broncos did get lucky with the ownerships they've got.
They've got an ownership group of cares and it's willing
to spend the money and has the money to spend.
You know, you talk about cash poor ownership. I mean
that's part of the reason Mark Davis had to leave Oakland,
as part of the reason that the span House wanted
to leave San Diego for LA And it's part of
(14:47):
the reason Cincinnati's having problems right now with needing to
you know, pay Trey Hendrickson after paying everybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They're cash poor.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And I know everybody said, oh, they're billion, but they are, like,
they don't have the free liquid cash to be able.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
To to do a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Cincinnati had to sell the naming rights to their stadium
for the first time ever just to pay Joe Burrow.
So you know, it's it's it is fascinating. But I
agree with the texture. I think we got lucky. I mean,
with all due respect to the Bolden family and everything else,
I think that their legacy stand Pats legacy stands where
it does in terms of the old time great owners.
But you know, when that money gets divvied up between
(15:23):
your heirs and you know, and and then you have
some that are not going to be involved in that
and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it's you know, that's that's tough. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The guy that played for the Broncos got a chanced
to know some of the Bolding kids and.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Miss the b very closely. Obviously, it was disappointing.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
To see the team have to be sold, but knowing
as though he was sold to a group who understands
the standard and the tradition of Broncos football, and that's trying.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
To take it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They're trying to keep that alive, but also take it
to a whole different stratosphere.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And that's that's the big thing.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
When when a new owner come in, is he dumbing
down the organization he's purchasing or he's trying to take
it to a whole different level, because it's almost like
like corporate warfare.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We're gonna buy a company right.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
To dissolve the assets, right and then just kind of
sell them off. I'm glad that that's not the case
with the with the Broncos, and they're gonna be here
for many years to come.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean, obviously the biggest question is.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I know the lease for Empower Field is running out
I think about thirty so they got to figure out
something where they're gonna keep it there or they're gonna move.
And then where are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Move it to? Right? It's a lot, but just think
about it.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How deep do your pockets have to be where you
can put your feet up then and go?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You know what, I don't know. Do we leave it there?
Do we really? We couldn't get this land over here.
But it's gonna cost it, you know what. That's yeah,
let me break a break baffle change yes, because the
new facility I think is one hundred and twenty six
million for the new one, and said that pales in
comparison with a stadium, calls exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But just to say that you're building a new facility
attachment to the fieldhouse, it's one hundred and twenty six million. Oh,
by the way, the currently standing place right now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You may renovations.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So you may renovations, so break it down and you
don't really care about it.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I want to be that rich. I want to be
that rigged next year.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think it was a shack was like the different
rich and wealthy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, well he's talking about that. He said, yeah,
he's like, I'm rich. A guy who's wealthy's the guy
who was signing my Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And I was like, man, you know there's like as
a kid, that resonated so hard with me when you
know when he when he said that, because I'm like,
you know, yeah, there's there's rich and then there's wealthy. Yes,
and that is you know, that's like screwsman.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But if you are.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Writing checks to pay basketball player, like, oh my god, money.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I'm just saying, you know where I come from in
my neighborhood. You probably heard yourself. But it's a certain
type of description of type of money that is I
really can't say, right, but just just go through the
alphabets and you find it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, there's too better respects back that kind of money.
We come back.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I wean't to talk about this athletic director that just
got arrested for stealing thousands of dollars from her former
job with a corporate credit card. We got some NBA
Finals and some Stanley Cup talk.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It is a Broncos country tonight. We'll be back after this.
Ben's been all bright.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ny Ferguson Zach Seegers here five six sixty nine zero
is the text line.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I want to get into this story real quick. Weird
one out of Florida.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
A and M I'd Love director Angela Suggs was arrested
today after she allegedly stole thousands of dollars from her
former job with a corporate credit card. Suggs turned herself
into Leon County jail today, though she was later released
on bond. According to the Associated Press, she's facing several charges,
including felony grand theft, felony scheme to defraud, and also
(18:58):
charged with four counts of false claims on travel vouchers,
which are misdemeanors in the state of Florida. Of Fischal
said that Suggs used a corporate credit card for personal
use and stole more than twenty four thousand dollars at
her previous job. Suggs allegedly made wire transfers, cash withdraws,
and personal purchases at casinos during business trips while she
was the CEO of the Florida Sports Foundation. An investigation
(19:20):
was lost last fall, and an audit revealed that Suggs
allegedly falsified travel vouchers by filling the unauthor as charges
as meals or claimed they were accidents. Also reportedly failed
to completely repay the Florida Sports Foundation or personal expenses. Sogs,
who was a Florida A and M graduate, was hired
officially is the university's athletic director last fall after a
nearly seven year run with the Florida Sports Foundation. Among
(19:42):
other things, Suggs hired for our NBA player and Toysman
Trophy winner Charlie Ward as the program's next men's basketball coach.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
In April.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Rattlers were fourteen and seventeen last season in the Swack
and they've not been to the NCAAAA tournament nearly two decades.
Florida and M released a statement saying university is aware
of the al allegations involving our athletic director Angela Suggs
while she was working with a former employer. Interim President
Timothy Beard said makes statement, well, the matters unrelated to
her duties as an employee a fam you were bothering
(20:11):
the situation, and we'll respond in the future as appropriate.
Shades of remember the accountant from the Jags or whatever
that was running up the credit card.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, but was millions. He was millions.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And I have to say, I do advocate that anyone
does anything from a criminal standpoint, right, But my stance
has always been, if I'm gonna go down, I'm going down,
like Robert de Narrow did in Heat Going, I'm going
down really big. And apparently this whole situation, you know,
(20:47):
as frouzen as it is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It was twenty four thousand.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Dollars, right, she could probably afford to pay that back
off her new salary, we.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Guess, But once again she used a corporate card for
personal reasons and she didn't really make the proper accounting
for as far as bills and travel.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
But once again it's just like why do this?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It makes absolutely no sense and it destroys your reputation.
So now you have felony counts against you, the job
that you now have at FAM. You now that's gone, right,
and socially you're destroyed over twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Now, I know twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Don't get me wrong, It is a lot of money, right,
But if you're going to go to the dark side.
You might as well go ahead and fully embrace it,
not just wear black T shirts VNCK T shirts like
Benjamin Albright does every single night.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, you go all in, right, you get some designer
v T shirts, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Saying yes, made out of Kashmir or whatever whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, some fans competion. I don't know's i'll pack of what?
I don't know. I just threw out a packer. I
don't know, all right, shirts said.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know you wear it sin chill and T shirts
in the summer because you can just throw them away
because your pagas are that deep, because you are up
to criminal activity. I know you guys are driving around saying, well,
what is Nick Ferguson talking about as far as criminal activity.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm just saying I'm not advocating for young Zach.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm not, but I'm just saying, if you're going to
do that, I mean, they'll have your reputation to show
up for twenty four K.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, twenty four I mean like that's such a This
was like I feel like I'm Nickel and Diamond im
to get back, you know, because i mean, like twenty
four grand in vast scheme of things is not that
much money.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
That's so weird to me, is it? Because I like,
and that was the comparison I was gonna make it,
because this.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Isn't like the guy from the Jags who stole you know,
how was he like fifty million dollars or whatever?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean, he's buying an exotic car. He's got like
two exotic cars. He's taking trips, he's bucking five million dollars. Yeah,
that dude stole twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now he was buying you know, fan private jet rides
and cars and watches and spend the money on DraftKings
and all that, and yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
One of those things. Look at me, mom, I've made
it on top of the world. You gonna go.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Down and blaze the glories, not twenty four k Yeah,
come on, man.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Twenty four thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's like, oh, you're you're a bad person. Like that's
you know, that's like I'll sing the steel, yeah, like
you just nickel and diamond, you know, and then trying
to and deliberately false because every the audits are so sophisticated.
Now you're not gonna get away with it. Like here's
this one of those sis, the years of yesteryear where
you could claim paper accounting and everything's digital.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
They got making forensic auditors in there. Now there's no
way you get away with that. Twenty four K man.
You ball on a budget.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
If you're gonna spend years of your life in prison,
you might as well spend years of your life driving
exotic cars.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
They make private jet flights through.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
The money in cold stories Bitcoin where they can't find
it out because.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
At some point, you don't be a lot behind bars
dreaming about what you could have done instead of what
you should have done.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And the first thing, let me be totally anticu.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You don't do this to begin with said first and first,
first and foremost, let me put that out.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
You don't put yourself in.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
This type of situation, but for some reason you find
yourself thinking about this.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Make it worth a while.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, Also, for what little it's worth, it's gotta be
one of the least cool stories among the fellow inmates.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
What did you do to get it here?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I was charging off the crab legs at the casino. Hey, Joe, Lie,
I don't even get I'm charging the crab legs on
my company card and.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I took this out. You're not gonna believe this right
it trusts me. It's gonna knock you on the full laughing.
Tell them again what you're in here for.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I stole from my company. I got some crab legs.
And how much did it cost you? How much did
you rock up for.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
A few years? I bought twenty four thousand. Get out
of here. It's gonna be that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I murdered someone. You're looking across the table. While you're
looking across the table, leave it's a been ill.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I mean, we're talking about financial corruption, I know, but
that's who they're going.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
To be compared to, oh man, white collar crime.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You think about it, this man she probably has enough
money now off the new job to just make restitution
more well maybe more you can, I mean, you know,
I mean it depends on if they want to pursue
the criminal charges or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You could just set them an offer. Here's the money,
I pay it back with you know, then there you go.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So if someone in this predicament were to say, you
know what, yeah he got me misappropriation of funds twenty
four k.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
How about I pay that back with interest? Doesn't that
get me.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, that's basically.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, like if I were charged with that, if
I did, I would not do that because I know
I get caught. But if I were to do something
like that, I guess what, there's the first thing I
would do, Like, all right, well let me you know,
let me go take on a loan for twenty four
thousand dollars day.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's too late, man, you know it's late. Well, I
mean you can, I mean throw it out there. Do
you want the money? I'm willing to do this to
make restitution?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
How about this? How about we take the twenty four
k and the interest that you're talking about, and you
sit here right in adult time out.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I'm good on that, so you can think about it. No,
I'm good. I'm offering you this deal. You can have
the twenty four thousand, or you can put me in
time out. You go on the time out.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, all right, adult time out. I'll just keep that
twenty four grand. Then, somehow I don't believe that now
that nill hit you in restitution. Yes, the idea listening audience,
never put yourself in this type of situation. Always keep
and make sure that your.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Ethics are the most important thing in life outside of
your family.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You've got to make sure your ethics are tight.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If not, you're going to go down for some white collar,
blue collar clock crime and it's not going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Worth it in the end. It's not.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean for me, like you know, it's that
you do that and you offered all lunteer at some
kind of charity, you know, kids, charity things.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's white collar crimes. That's a white collar crime.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well no, no, no, no, no, no, she's she's under
the threshold for to be considered a white collar crime.
That's twenty four k no, to to be viewed as
a person that committed white collar crimes.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
We're talking about millions. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
By the way, this in case you guys are not aware,
this is a five to one C three nonprofit that
she stole from that.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Has to be more careful or not do it. You
know what, you got to talk about ethics. And I
was like, really, you gotta be more No no, no, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
What I was meaning when I said you gotta be
more careful, not that you have to be you're.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
No, you have to be more careful to not do it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Then did you see a slash Stone die today. I'm
sorry what slash Stone died today?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I must have missed that. Yeah, passed away at eighty
two years old. No, no way, that's man. That sucks. Yeah,
I was, and I say it got me to thinking
a little bit, like.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Aside from you know, ethical quandaries, aside as we discussed
in the last segment.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, who like, like what musician when they passed is
really gonna like rock you you know.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Like now, like when Michael Jackson passed. I mean I
was living in California when that happened, and that was.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That was like Prence died. That was a big one too.
Those were the two.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Musical guys that were played in my household at the time. Now,
I got to tell you a quick story when it
comes to slid Stone and Sling the family stone. It's
not a great story. Uh, very interesting one, okay. So,
uh there was an issue in the house one day,
was that father's house, and he had this large seventy
(29:02):
gallon tank and somehow it fell on the ground, right.
I may or may not had anything to do with it,
but everyone got in trouble that day, okay. And then
my father did something that was highly unexpected now, parents.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Disciplined their kids all the time, but I bet no
one was ever.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Disciplined while listening to Slide in the family shown danced
to the music.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I bet that right.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And I remember one of my buddies when I was
playing with the Jets, he gave me a Christmas gift.
You know what the CD was Slide fanl right, because
he knew of that story. So yeah, my father was
on some different stuff at the time. But if there
is a person now and even to say this, man,
I don't wish it will on anyone. Like when when
(29:54):
he Houston passed, that was a big thing, even though
you know what she was going through.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Personal wow. I mean you've got to think like jay
Z and Queen Bee, I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's devastating, you know that would that's gonna be devastating
whenever that happened. I'm not forecasting that. I wish them
longevity as long as they can. But to be asked
you a question that was something that would impact I
would say the culture.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, the culture. I know, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think that's one of those things like as as
you sit there and you try to think about like
who's the who is the seminal musical artist that when
they pass, uh is really gonna gonna mess with you?
And you get it right, Michael. And when Prince died,
that kind of stuff that I'll mess with you, you
know back when I was in high school in Cobain died,
you know, yeah, Bowie, that was it. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Probably That's a good one there.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But I I struggle to think, like who is Like
I can think of younger people that will remind me
of my age, you know when they pass, But I like,
there's not any I think most of the most of
the formative you know, maybe when Dave Grohl passes away
or something from the food Fighters, like that'll mess with me.
But yeah, I was struggling to think about that as
(31:06):
I as I saw this, I mean, there's gave mad
it to eighty two. My family tends not to have
the longest of lives, Okay, So eighty two would be
if I if I lived to be eighty two, I
would a full life. I would consider that a full life.
That's a full life, right Like Dave. Dave was in
here earlier, was talking about he was eighty two years young,
and I'm like, man, eighty two with my family. That's
that's making in the ways, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Growing up in Miami, I knew individuals who smoked, drank
and even ate pork, and they lived to the ripe
age of like ninety two.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Look at George Burns. It's just like.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Every time you saw George Birds he always had a
g or a cigar and look like he had some
cravasi in his hands.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah that man made one hundred.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Okay, So the individual of my neighborhood say, well, that's
what it took to live to that ripe old age.
Why we saw living healthy and then you just at
some point enter something that's not considered to be healthy.
That's when you kind of meet your demise.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
George Burns was like thirty five when the Great Depression
kicked off.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Wow, he died in ninety six. How old that guy was? Wow,
he was like years old.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The living is different now opposed to what it was
there because people was the really hard and it's like,
how are you living this long?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Living this hard?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I never yeah, I mean that was one of those
every time you saw him, he had ded alcoholity, had
a cigar.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yes, you know, that's just one of those. Uh, that's
just one of those things. I remember George Burns is
being being God. Oh yeah, ye oh God, you doubled. Yes,
that's that's my movie. I remember it most. I remember
George Burns being God.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
But that was That's one of those things like I
was like, I trying to figure out who who would
really rock me in my core but uh uh set
to on forces.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
All just admitted if anybody from Albert Eyes, I'll be devastated.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
You know what. That's that's there's a there's a bunch
of ABA fans, especially with the Mama Me and movies.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah and three, all three, says Stevie Wonder. That's a
good one. Yes, with Michael and Prince or within Paul
and Ringo die like the last of the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know, oh that might be something too. Yeah that
that that's one thing about it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
The musical people that you grew up with in drew
a connection because of the music. When they pass, it
is tragic for the fan base. This is why I
say athlete music style whatever man cling to these people
love them all while they're still here, because once they're gone,
that's it.
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History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.