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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's a very limited vocal range.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah right, and Grant great can hit that falsetto not
too many people, can, you know? He's like the bee
Gees of of doing it back there. Yes, talking about
chest hair music. Cool Medallions was the SNL sketch. Very
good talk show, but it was a that was Fallon's
best sketch. I particularly find Jimmy Fallon all that funny.
But like him and Timberlake doing the Barry GiB Talk
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show where he's like just imitating Barry Gibb. They all
said his voice would go up, you know, like Ted Octaves,
who I'll say to your time.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That was classic SNL for sure. That was that was
good stuff? Five six six nine zeros of text. Did
you guys see the story?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh this is not sportsally, I just wanted to know
if you guys saw the story Wisconsin guy and Tim
Frady who allowed snakes to bite him two hundred venous
snakes to bite him two hundred times.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
In order to develop like yeah, and it worked. I'm
sorry wait he allowed them to these bit of a snake.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Tim Brady was feeling particularly down. The day after the
September eleventh attacks, He went to his basement let two
of the world's deadliest snakes bite him. Four days later,
he woke up from a coma. He said, I know
what it feels like to die from a snake bite. Now,
this experience might put most people off snakes entirely, but
Freddy simply vowed to be more careful the next time.
From twenty to twenty eighteen, he allowed himself to be
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bitten by snakes more than two hundred times. It also
injected himself with their venom six hundred and fifty times.
Rad He endured this pain because he wanted to achieve
total immunity to venom, a practice called mithreadatism.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Which should not be tried at home.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
After a couple of years, he started to believe he
could be the basis for a better kind of anti venom. Rady,
who was a former truck mechanic, does not have a
university degree, long struggle to be taken seriously by scientists,
but last month a study published in the prestigious Cell
Journal showed the antibodies from his blood protect against a
range of snake venom. Researchers are now hoping his hyper
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immunity could lead to a development of a new universal
anti venom. This would fill a major need because currently
most anti venoms only cover one or a few of
the world's.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Six hundred venomous snakes.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Up to one hundred and thirty eight thousand people a
year killed by snake bites, while four hundred thousand suffer
amputations or other disabilities, or to the World Health Organization.
The figures are believed to be underestimated because snake by
victims typically live in poorer, remote areas and just don't
report them. Freddy's first bite came from a harmless garter
snake when he.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Was five years old.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Freddy was fifty seven, so that I was afraid I
cried and I ran away, but they started bringing snakes home,
hiding him at pickle jars. His mother sought counseling, but
his interest persisted, and he attended a class taught him
how to milk snakes for venom, and he's changing the
way anti venoms have been used for last one and
twenty five years. Would you let snake bites which to
develop hyper immunity from snake bunt?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No? I mean, I'm glad this guy did.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Seems like a positive thing for humanity, But no way.
I've I've got some snake bikes stories in my family, though,
and it sounds nightmarish. I don't want to go anywhere
near that. It sounds like one of the worst ways
you could go. I'm not interested.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Listen, man, I'm all for doing things in the name
of moving humanity forward, but not in this particular way
where you are making yourself part of a science experiment.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
For years he contacted scientists trying to get him to
take him seriously, and they refused to bite.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No pun intended.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Then in twenty seventeen, I meanologist Jacob Glanville, who had
previously worked on universal vaccines, said he was looking for
a clumsy snake researcher who'd been bitten accidentally a couple
of times to test out some theories and came across
video of Free You taking brutal back to back snake bites,
and when they first spoke, he said, I know this
is awkward, but I would love to give my hands
on some of your blood.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And then he said, I'm to wait for the You
know this a long time. And what do you think
he's part wolverine? Well, I mean apparently doing it enough.
It's it's it's given him actual immunity. Like that's that's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So researchers are hoping that they can develop some kind
of like you know, universal vaccine that protects you, you know,
or an e venom that protects you from from all
the snake bites, putting a uh, putting a new spin
on an old, an old situation.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But you know what, good for him for doing that,
because that's something that once again I wouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Man, I wouldn't do at all.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But hey, news span is speaking of speaking of which,
I'll let throwse something out at you guys, and you
guys what you think, because when we think about trick
plays gadget plays. Usually in my time playing in the league,
it was just like if you have a gadget offense,
that show the lack of creativity and the of personnel
that you have because now you have to use trick
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plays to try to move things along. But the new
spin on it for me is watching Ben Johnson. You
know who's down the new head coach for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Ben Johnson has done an.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Extraordinary job of coming up with creative plays, especially in
his time with the Detroit Lions. And when I look
at what he has the capabilities of doing now with
Caleb Williams and that Chicago offense, I mean to a
point where and the mini Kevin Otias he had offensive linemen,
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you know, catching passes and use it. When we think
about offensive lineman, you know, big tall guys, slow footed,
not really that athletic or as from a tight end standpoint.
But he got me to thinking, now here's a new
spin on something that's old because a lot of teams
utilize gadget plays well. Going back and watching the Detroit
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Lions over the past two years, they even they've already
been able to change the perception in my mind based
on some of the plays.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And I'll see this if Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Can flip the Chicago Bears roster and do the same
thing with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
As he did with Jared Golf.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know, we like to call offensive coordinators geniuses. He
would be a bona fide genius and deserve that title.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Some people like to call themselves geniuses.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well you really can't, like like Lebron James calling himself
a king, you can't really give yourself a nickname.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Just crown yourself. Yeah, you can't know. They still offer
the crown, Yeah they yes, they do. They give you
the crown. Yes, they still those Yes they do. Dude,
I want to go to Burger King in the crown.
Most likely Ben will go to Burger King this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I will wear it tomorrow, can't. I don't know if
he's waiting till this weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Try to do it tomorrow. But just think about that, Ben.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I mean, we've seen a lot of gadget plays, but
to become very creative where you're taking the simplicity of
a gadget play and you just kind of expanding it.
And I'm thinking, as like the Broncos last year, the
Broncos had two, id say gadget plays right. One of
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those plays was a fake punt against the Bills in
the playoffs, So I give it a seventy for the
fake punt attempt. Now it gets to thirty because the
Broncos didn't get any points from that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Now, there was.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Another play in the Baltimore game where I can't remember
some kind of flip play to Courtland sundown exactly right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So take our own Philly special, our.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Own Philly special, and we don't really see the Broncos
using it as much. My point is based on what
we've seen from Ben Johnson and what he's done at
a high rate with Jerry Golf in that Detroit Lions offense.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Could we or would you like to.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
See the exploration of Champagne's offense to include more gadget
type plays.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I would. Here's the thing. I like gadget plays because
they're fun.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I like gadget plays because they give you a new
wrinkle and they do something new. And then I hate
gadget plays because it says that you don't feel you're
effective enough in your base offense to be able to
beat a team, and you need something like that Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So so that is kind of the basic principle when
it comes to gadget plays. But my point is watching
how Ben Johnson utilize those types of plays.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But they were not like your simple, traditional in the
round type.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Of plays, but these were like sophisticated gadget plays that
you're like, oh, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right, So I know, to use a lot of gadget plays.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It just seems as though you like creativity and you're
not too confidence in your roster. But the way that
he's running these gadget plays, to me, that change is
the narrative.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think there are wrinkles you can
add that aren't as long as you're putting your best
personnel doing the thing that they do best. Like yeah, okay,
a touchdown pass caught by bo Nix's fun from the
Knicks's fun. But that also takes your two best players
out of what they do best. Court of the Sudden's
best to catching the ball, bon Nicks the best of
throwing the ball. That's a fun little wrinkle, but you're
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not ever you're probably gonna replicate that again. Right For me,
what Ben Johnson does well is he still had Jared
Goff doing the throwing, he still had, you know, even
though they were trick plays or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Lining up Jamier Gibbs is a full back and then
using him on the wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I love that, you know, I love stuff like that,
but but I don't like stuff that takes your guys
out of what they do best and puts ask.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Them to do things that maybe they are not the
best at doing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know, I can see that because each guy has
a unique skill.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Set and you want them to focus on that skill set.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I still feel as though there's a way to
deploy your players in a trick play gadget type way
that that's entirely different from the traditional lining up in
the running back and lining up and the die, and
it's going to be a flea flicker, right, I mean
I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
With stuff like That's not that still has a running back,
you know, running the book when we see that all
the time, is like, give me something new, and the
flea flick are rarely worse. You rarely get sucked in
by the flea flicker. It's very rare. I mean, really,
it's running back. The best ones to get away with
it are guys that are overwhelmingly talented the position, like
you could get away with it with Derek Henry or
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Saquon Barkley, right because you're going to see a defense
suck up on that with them, Yes, but you're not
going to win. Chavante ran a fleet flicker like nobody
bought it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay, no, no one actually bought it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But the Broncos can utilize them with RGIE Harvey because
I'm if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
RJ. Harvey played a little quarter back high school.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
In high school, he converted to in fact he could
he was playing in college.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He converted in college before he got to u c F.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So that that would be a perfect thing to kind
of dial up if he is Sean Payton, work on
it and even if it's not successful, anytime there's any
kind of toss, sweep or any outside zone that the
fenders are going to be thinking, well, is this an
opportunity for him to throw the ball down the field.
And all you need is a split second for the
fenders to slow down. That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
RJ. Harvey was a quarterback in Virginia. He transferred to
UCF and converted a running back.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
See it's kind of built into their office.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I see a.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Situation inside the Rizo where R. J. Harvey is throwing
a touchdown pass to Evan Inger. Cy I go the
other way with it, Okay, I would see it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
When you're backed up the other direction you run toss
for Harvey and you got Mims flying.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Out the Wait wait, wait, so so the Broncos are
backed up.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're back in their own territory. We're on our own terror.
We got we got bucks sweep going here with r J. Harvey,
except what we got built into the backside. Is it
either a bang eight or a bang nine with Marvin Mims.
And on that sweep, he's got the option of popping
up and throwing or continuing to go if he's got
the You know, I like stuff like that, or I
mean I like taking risk. But that's a huge Well,
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it's an option play.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You're kitchen to the running back, but the running back
has a he's an option, right, he's reading the he's
reading the block, and if the blocks aren't there, the
run isn't there. He's got he can look up and
see if the if the throw is there midfield maybe
backed up. Well, I'm not not backed up in your
goal line. But if you're you know, you just got
kicked off here on the twenty five. I'm there with
you know like that, you know you don't run that
backed up on.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Your goal line. Okay, I just want to make I'll
tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
One of my favorite calls when you're backed up inside
the five is running that half back screen. There's nobody's
looking for it at that point, but you've got to
be bang bang getting the ball to him because if
you don't, there's a lurking either edge rusher or nickel
corner right there looking at look at the house that thing.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But this is where the creativity for me in my mind,
and in year three, but year two with bow Nicks
and the three bit being Champagne being the head coach,
but seeing an evolution to the offense, and I think
we're going to see.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
More of it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And I hope that if you run a play and
is not positive, right it's a negative play, that you
don't give up on it and you say, you know what,
that guy's play that didn't work. I'm not running anymore.
Because we're seeing more teams and I go back to
Ben Johnson be more successful when they were willing to
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run some of those plays, especially at points in the
game where the defense isn't anticipated.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, you just got to be careful with those gambles though. Man,
you don't want to get snake bit rock this country
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Speaker 4 (14:23):
What Jackson Bill Jaguars rookie fenom Travis Hunter has begun
practicing on both sides of the ball during the same
individual practice sessions. How do you think the two way
experiment is gonna work out for Travis Hunter this rookie season,
And what will his role slash stats look like on
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either side of the ball when it's all said and
done this year.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That's a big question, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know, I expect that he'll probably you know, you know,
probably packages on both sides of the ball early in
the look to to flush those out and expand them.
Where he is as a starter or what he starts at.
I would I would guess his wide receiver with some
defensive packages, just based on the way they've talked about
it out of camp, although I would probably do it
the other way and make him a defender with wide
receiver packages.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We'll see. He'll sort itself out in camp as far
as the stats go.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I mean, it depends on which side of the ball
he lands on as his primary role. I don't believe
he'll be doing what he did in college, which is
ironman football all the time, but I do believe he'll
at least get packages both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think he's going to spend both of his time
on the defensive side of the ball. They're going to
be special toy packages put in specifically for him, because
let's not kid ourselves. They drafted him because they want
him to be a two way player because they know
what that's going to mean for their fan base, the brand.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And also for Trevor Lawrence and the guy.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
This skill we haven't really seen in a long time
in the NFL, and they are team that's willing to
allow him to do it. So we're going to see
a lot of red zone packages for him. I'm excited
to see how we kind of changes for him, but
just keep this in mind for a lot of fans,
we're going to see a lot of excitement this year
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in Jacksonville, but very limited offense, more defense for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, they traded up, you know, a quarterback price to
go and get that guy. I think the only way
you can have a positional player live up to that
price is you know they're like Patrick's or Tan level
perennial all pro their entire career, which you could very
well be, or you're somehow playing them at multiple positions
getting offensive and defensive value out of them. That plus,
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you know Gladstone's whole press conference about Travis Hunter reshaping
football as we know. It makes me think he's got
to at least get a solid look on both sides.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Pretty heavy usage through this first year.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I hate they thought as an organization, Jacksonville viewed it
as they were drafting two players for the price of one,
so that's kind of the price tag. Incidentally, it's kind
of interesting if you look at the history of the
drafts and trading up. If you trade up in the
first round for a quarterback, you're usually skumped. Usually usually
it does not work out, But if you trade up
for another position, it usually does.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's really interesting thing about that.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The last big trade up you had for somebody was
like the wide receiver for Jerry Judy. I mean, not
Jerry Judy, Hulo Jones. Yeah, Julio Jones. I mean, those
kinds of trades generally work for skill, but generally don't
for quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Two Bengals first round rookie.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Speaking of rookies, here, Shamar Stewart has left mandatory mini camp,
has his standoff with the Cincinnati Bengals, and their front
office continues to heat up. Who do you think is
in the right here, Either the Cincinnati Bengals or Shamar
Stewart and do you think Cincinnati will ever change their
penny pitching ways.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, the player's in the right here.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What he's asking for is, or what he's trying to
get them to stop doing, is using something that only
the Cincinnati Bengals do and put into contracts and in
giving themselves an out later on in terms of offsets.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's stupid. Cincinnati's being stupid.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
They've already got another defensive vand that they can't afford
to pay and aren't making any headway on it is
going to be holding out. This is your first round
draft pick your other options after Shamar Stewart right now,
Miles Murphy and Joseph Assie, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
This defense is already bad. What are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, this is kind of a bad look for the
Cincinnati Bengals, But me, let's be telling honest. Are we
surprised that the Bengals are doing something like this? I mean,
they pride themselves as being one of those teams that
are going to do things different from everyone else contractually
because guess what, there's revenue sharing in the league. This
is the thing that got them in trouble in years past.
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But fortunate for them. They have t Higgins, Jamar Chase,
and they have Joe Burrow that they figures though that
would save them. But doing this it does send a
message to other draft picks around the league that this
too can be your future if you land with the
Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It just seems so unnecessarily cheap.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I mean, this is the first impression you're making with
Shamar Stewart, a guy who, if all things go to plan,
he'll be with you for ten years.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Bare minimum.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You should be with you at least four years unless
it's a colossal bust.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And this is the initial impression.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Do you think there's any chance Shamar Stewart gets moved.
I know there's some rules that have been shared on
Twitter about how maybe he could re enter the draft
next year if he continues to hold out.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, I think that's I think it's fairly likely. If
Cincinnati doesn't, I think he'd do it, And good for
him for sticking to his guns on that. That's I
was never a Shamar Stewart fan in terms of him
being drafted.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He was not a guy.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I think you look at him and I'm like, all right,
the measurables are there, But the production isn't when you
watch the tapes.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Kind of the same thing. I'm a little concerned with that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But on the other side of it, I mean, if
you're Cincinnati, you need bodies on that defense. It's that
defense is potentially the worst I've ever seen on paper,
and it's it's something to behold. You're going to have
the Cincinnati Bengals be a five win football team and
score thirty five points a game.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And I know how great Joe Burrow had over the past.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Two seasons not to make the playoffs, and it was all.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Based because the defense could really stop a noseblee.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Interesting. I just don't get it.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
If you don't trust this guy just they help, you
don't draft him exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Three former Bengals.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Speaking of that organization, Linebacker Jermaine Pratt has signed with
the Las Vegas Raiders on a one year deal.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Saying signing for the Raiders and do you think Jermaine
Pratt starts for them this upcoming season?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
It's a good signing.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I mean, Las Vegas needs all the help they can
get on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Speaking of you know, teams in need defense for help.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
All of a sudden, that defense is starting to look
a little a little nasty.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, I don't like their front four.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean, you got Max Crosby and Christian Wilkins, but
Adam Butler and Malcolm Coombs aren't he as starters. They
drafted Tyree Wilson a couple of years ago. He's he
hasn't even taken a starting role there, so that that
may be of us. But the linebacking, cor mean, you
got Jermain Pratt and the Landon Roberts probably starting.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You got Devin White backing them up.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Tommy Eichenberg wasn't any slouch, and then they added Jeremy
chan and Eric Stokes to that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Secondary're starting to.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Get They're starting to get a little bit of a
defense together.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Again.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I that front four outside of Crossby doesn't scare me.
But I like the signing here.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean, this signing is okay based on what the
Raiders want to do. Definitely fortifying that linebacker position to
back up Mix Crosby. Like you said, what is it
a type of move that kind of changes the whole
projection for the Raiders? Probably not, it makes them more competitive,
But to me, when you look at other teams within
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the AFC West, I think there's other better groups that
are out there.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It just gives you something too.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I guess when you really look at it, you really
want to build your offense to be able to take
on this defense. So it's not something that the Broncos
or the Chargers or the Chiefs are shaking in their booths.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
They're not. Yeah, I don't think it'll have you shaking
in your boots.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But to your point, Bend, it feels like they're adding
some competency to that unit. And you give Patrick Graham
at least some competent players, and I think you can
cook up the pretty pretty solid defense.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's one thing I've always I think, whatever you think
of the Raiders, Pete Carroll had them playing a lot
harder than they You know, Pete Carroll will make sure
that you're playing here.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
If you're not, you're not gonna be there.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Poor newly minted Browns wide receiver and set me up
again then talking about guys who did not really try hard.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Newly minted Browns wide.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Receiver Deontae Johnson is out to change the narrative, he
said surrounding his career after a parade of teams gave
up on him last season. He bounced around between what
the Panthers, the Ravens, twice Steers, the Texans. He was
all over the place last season. Do you think he'll
be successful in that quest to try and rewrite his
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narrative and change people's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Opinion of him? And if so, what do you think
that stat line is going to look like this season? Well,
he's not even on the first team there. I mean,
you're talking about your starting receivers.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
There are going to be Jerry Judy, Jamari Thrash and
Cedrii Tillman, who you know looked really good before he
got concussions last year. He would be on the second
line in terms of what that is wide receiver four
or five roughly. And then you've got quarterback questions. Who's
gonna who's gonna be throwing him the ball? Joe Flacco,
can he pick it? Gabriel se Door Sanders, not gonna
be de Shaan Watson. You know, I don't know in
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terms of production, I certainly would be drafting him as
a fantasy option.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But he has a chance to resurrect his career.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You know, in that if you and if you've got
a quarterback, they can get him the ball more part
to him.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
This one is really interesting for me because we're talking
about a guy in twenty twenty four. He was on
three teams, right and eventually, at some point in the
circles of the NFL, after going through something like that,
your value starts to go down and then a question
becomes what type of locker room guy are you? Because
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regardless of what we've seen of Johnson in the past,
what are you doing now?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Are you a poison inside the locker room? When when
you don't get the balls that you want, did.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You get so desperate that you badmount the coordinated the quarterback?
To me, I don't know what Johnson is going to
do with the Browns, but for me, this is a
very interesting one and I hate this.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I wouldn't have him be a part of my team,
well three teams last year.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And if you couldn't make it on the Steelers, I
mean and in Baltimore, those are the issues for me.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree if Jamari Thrash kind of to.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That point is a major impediment to you being able
to write this narrative in your own eyes. I don't
think it's going to be happening for you. That said,
he's one AFC North team away from completing his punch cards.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Maybe he'll catch on with the Bank now, that would
be a story within itself. Five.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Pete Carroll said today that despite the raiders serious interest
in Ashton gent that he won't be relying on just
one guy and that multiple members of that Raiders backfield
will see work. Do you expect Ashton Genty to be
part of a split backfield or do you think Pete
Carroll's just trying his best to keep his cards close
to his chef.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, there's no such thing as a non split backfield anymore.
I mean unless you're the Baltimore Ravens. I mean the
Eagles got you know, got running backs involved besides Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And I guess do you think he's getting off on
a technicality like that or do you think it'll be
a healthier rotation?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, I mean, you didn't bring Rahee Mostered in there
just to gather dust. The other part of that, though,
is who else is going to be a part of
that backfield because the other backs they have are not
particularly inspiring.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Sincere McCormick is a mere white. Those guys were just
guys last year.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Dylan Lobby hasn't been able to crack a lineup, and
Chris Collier's not you know.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
His Jags.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So you know, outside of Monster and Janty, I don't
see those guys getting With all the respect to mister
McCormick's sincere work.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, this sounds great to say for the off season,
but once we get into the season, it's about using
your workhorse back. And we know Pete Carrow from the
past is about playing great defense and carrying a run
game to help you at home and on the row.
So throwing a multitude of different running backs at opponents,
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that's what she wants. So to Demons, a coordinator can't say, okay, well,
this is their bail cow back, this is their mus submit,
this is how we stopped him. To me, this is
where the league is right now. You need to have
multiple backs. Think about what the Broncos are doing.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You got JK. Dobbas and you have RJ.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Harvey also in the bullpen waiting possibly anologic estimate.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
But if I was a Raiders fan and Raheem Mostert
became the Tyler Algier to Ashton Gente's Jean Robinson.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think I might start a riot. Mustard's had some moments. Yeah,
I mean he's not you know, he's not been bad.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He gives you a bit of a home run threat
to maybe the other guys on the on the roster aren't.
But I mean, you know, we we're two years away
from a Mostard on the Miami team that couldn't throw
the football very well with a thousand over a thousand
yards and eighteen touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
But two years is a long time in running back years.
He's had some injuries since then, and it'll be thirty three. Yeah,
I agree, like he's he's a competent number two option,
But I mean you spent a top six pick on gentye.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I think feed the guy used. He's gonna get most
of work. But they're also the rookie wall.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I mean, most rookie running backs right around week twelve
start to fall off a clif they're not used to
NFL schedules where you got seventeen games, wouldn't consider this.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You're not using mostly as your number one running back.
He's coming in certain situations, third down, He's great catching
the ball out of the back trail. He's great on
the perimeter, so as a guy who has had injury
who's age of back is the perfect situation for him.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Six.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Ending with some Denver Broncos news here at the NFL
dot Com ranked the Denver Broncos as the NFL's sixth
best offense for this upcoming season. They're ranked notably ahead
of the Philadelphia Eagles, the Green Bay Packers, the Cincinnati Bengals,
and the Kansas City Chiefs. Those four teams round out
the top ten. The only teams ahead of the Denver
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Broncos offensive attack ranked from first to fifth here are
the Buffalo Bills, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Baltimore Ravens,
the Washington Commanders, and the Detroit Lions. Do you agree
with that placement for the Denver Broncos or do you
think they should be either high, higher or lower than
do any other placements on that list?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Surprising who wrote this? Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
This very much surprises me. Having the Broncos ahead of honestly,
the Chargers, the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Who else?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Did you make the Bengals to be ahead of the
Bengals is ludicrous? Not that I don't expect Dever's offense
to be decent or effective or whatever. But the idea
that you're ranking them sixth in the league based on
what potential I guess, because what did they show that
makes you feel like that they are the sixth best
offense ahead of guys like like the Bengals who are
going to be all gas, no breaks that you know,
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the Broncos have a top five defense, potentially number one,
but I would hesitate to put, to say, a top
ten offense.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I would agree with you because all of this, I
think is based on the defense expectations, the potential based
on last year, the additions, and no one has whole
though the defense if everything goes well, being able to
turn the ball over, giving the Broncos offense multiple opportunities
that changes the score in numbers, and the additions of
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Evan Ingram.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
This article came up today, did it not?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So? Evan Ingram and then RJ. Harvey and JK. Dobbins,
you're getting that type of book. I would be slow
to put the Broncos offense right away because we haven't
seen it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Collectively actually deployed. Well.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
This is based on in my opinion, I don't know
the guy who wrote the article based on potential.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So that's what I Gennaro Felice to answer your question, Man,
is the same here new to me? The one that
really stuck out to me?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And I agree the Broncos seem a little high, but
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, after losing Liam Cohen, who seems
to be a really bright offensive mind, and you know,
having Godwin come off injury, Mike Evins is getting up there.
Then at number two was Ben Baker Mayfield at quarterback?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That that one surprised me A good day. Yeah, I
mean I thought Baker had a good season last.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Year, but once again getting another new offensive coordinator for
mayf Field. We're going to have to see how that
works out. Yeah, that seems incredibly optimistic. I would rather,
as Broncos fans, we can hope for that, certainly, but
I would rather set the bar a little bit lower
and be pleasantly surprised, and set the bar that high
and be disappointed long than your strategy.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I mean, it's you know.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Just saying, that's a bisim all right strategy to its finest.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Don't aim for the moon, aim for the trees. You'll
never miss see. Set the bar really really lower.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You can step over it, yeah, and then somehow still
limbo under it.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I can't I kid, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
We almost nailed it there where you can get to
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there with his nailed it Yeah exactly. Grad Smith is
still the is still the leader in the clubhouse on that,
but you're getting there.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's a very limited vocal range.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah right, and Grant great can hit that falsetto not
too many people, can, you know? He's like the bee
Gees of of doing it back there. Yes, talking about
chest hair music. Cool Medallions was the SNL sketch. Very
good talk show, but it was a that was Fallon's
best sketch. I particularly find Jimmy Fallon all that funny.
But like him and Timberlake doing the Barry GiB Talk
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show where he's like just imitating Barry Gibb. They all
said his voice would go up, you know, like Ted Octaves,
who I'll say to your time.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That was classic SNL for sure. That was that was
good stuff? Five six six nine zeros of text. Did
you guys see the story?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh this is not sportsally, I just wanted to know
if you guys saw the story Wisconsin guy and Tim
Frady who allowed snakes to bite him two hundred venous
snakes to bite him two hundred times.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
In order to develop like yeah, and it worked. I'm
sorry wait he allowed them to these bit of a snake.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Tim Brady was feeling particularly down. The day after the
September eleventh attacks, He went to his basement let two
of the world's deadliest snakes bite him. Four days later,
he woke up from a coma. He said, I know
what it feels like to die from a snake bite. Now,
this experience might put most people off snakes entirely, but
Freddy simply vowed to be more careful the next time.
From twenty to twenty eighteen, he allowed himself to be
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bitten by snakes more than two hundred times. It also
injected himself with their venom six hundred and fifty times.
Rad He endured this pain because he wanted to achieve
total immunity to venom, a practice called mithreadatism.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Which should not be tried at home.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
After a couple of years, he started to believe he
could be the basis for a better kind of anti venom. Rady,
who was a former truck mechanic, does not have a
university degree, long struggle to be taken seriously by scientists,
but last month a study published in the prestigious Cell
Journal showed the antibodies from his blood protect against a
range of snake venom. Researchers are now hoping his hyper
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immunity could lead to a development of a new universal
anti venom. This would fill a major need because currently
most anti venoms only cover one or a few of
the world's.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Six hundred venomous snakes.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Up to one hundred and thirty eight thousand people a
year killed by snake bites, while four hundred thousand suffer
amputations or other disabilities, or to the World Health Organization.
The figures are believed to be underestimated because snake by
victims typically live in poorer, remote areas and just don't
report them. Freddy's first bite came from a harmless garter
snake when he.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Was five years old.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Freddy was fifty seven, so that I was afraid I
cried and I ran away, but they started bringing snakes home,
hiding him at pickle jars. His mother sought counseling, but
his interest persisted, and he attended a class taught him
how to milk snakes for venom, and he's changing the
way anti venoms have been used for last one and
twenty five years. Would you let snake bites which to
develop hyper immunity from snake bunt?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No? I mean, I'm glad this guy did.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Seems like a positive thing for humanity, But no way.
I've I've got some snake bikes stories in my family, though,
and it sounds nightmarish. I don't want to go anywhere
near that. It sounds like one of the worst ways
you could go. I'm not interested.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Listen, man, I'm all for doing things in the name
of moving humanity forward, but not in this particular way
where you are making yourself part of a science experiment.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
For years he contacted scientists trying to get him to
take him seriously, and they refused to bite.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No pun intended.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Then in twenty seventeen, I meanologist Jacob Glanville, who had
previously worked on universal vaccines, said he was looking for
a clumsy snake researcher who'd been bitten accidentally a couple
of times to test out some theories and came across
video of Free You taking brutal back to back snake bites,
and when they first spoke, he said, I know this
is awkward, but I would love to give my hands
on some of your blood.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And then he said, I'm to wait for the You
know this a long time. And what do you think
he's part wolverine? Well, I mean apparently doing it enough.
It's it's it's given him actual immunity. Like that's that's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So researchers are hoping that they can develop some kind
of like you know, universal vaccine that protects you, you know,
or an e venom that protects you from from all
the snake bites, putting a uh, putting a new spin
on an old, an old situation.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But you know what, good for him for doing that,
because that's something that once again I wouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Man, I wouldn't do at all.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But hey, news span is speaking of speaking of which,
I'll let throwse something out at you guys, and you
guys what you think, because when we think about trick
plays gadget plays. Usually in my time playing in the league,
it was just like if you have a gadget offense,
that show the lack of creativity and the of personnel
that you have because now you have to use trick
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plays to try to move things along. But the new
spin on it for me is watching Ben Johnson. You
know who's down the new head coach for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Ben Johnson has done an.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Extraordinary job of coming up with creative plays, especially in
his time with the Detroit Lions. And when I look
at what he has the capabilities of doing now with
Caleb Williams and that Chicago offense, I mean to a
point where and the mini Kevin Otias he had offensive linemen,
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you know, catching passes and use it. When we think
about offensive lineman, you know, big tall guys, slow footed,
not really that athletic or as from a tight end standpoint.
But he got me to thinking, now here's a new
spin on something that's old because a lot of teams
utilize gadget plays well. Going back and watching the Detroit
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Lions over the past two years, they even they've already
been able to change the perception in my mind based
on some of the plays.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And I'll see this if Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Can flip the Chicago Bears roster and do the same
thing with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
As he did with Jared Golf.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know, we like to call offensive coordinators geniuses. He
would be a bona fide genius and deserve that title.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Some people like to call themselves geniuses.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well you really can't, like like Lebron James calling himself
a king, you can't really give yourself a nickname.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Just crown yourself. Yeah, you can't know. They still offer
the crown, Yeah they yes, they do. They give you
the crown. Yes, they still those Yes they do. Dude,
I want to go to Burger King in the crown.
Most likely Ben will go to Burger King this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I will wear it tomorrow, can't. I don't know if
he's waiting till this weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Try to do it tomorrow. But just think about that, Ben.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I mean, we've seen a lot of gadget plays, but
to become very creative where you're taking the simplicity of
a gadget play and you just kind of expanding it.
And I'm thinking, as like the Broncos last year, the
Broncos had two, id say gadget plays right. One of
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those plays was a fake punt against the Bills in
the playoffs, So I give it a seventy for the
fake punt attempt. Now it gets to thirty because the
Broncos didn't get any points from that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Now, there was.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Another play in the Baltimore game where I can't remember
some kind of flip play to Courtland sundown exactly right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So take our own Philly special, our.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Own Philly special, and we don't really see the Broncos
using it as much. My point is based on what
we've seen from Ben Johnson and what he's done at
a high rate with Jerry Golf in that Detroit Lions offense.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Could we or would you like to.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
See the exploration of Champagne's offense to include more gadget
type plays.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I would. Here's the thing. I like gadget plays because
they're fun.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I like gadget plays because they give you a new
wrinkle and they do something new. And then I hate
gadget plays because it says that you don't feel you're
effective enough in your base offense to be able to
beat a team, and you need something like that Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So so that is kind of the basic principle when
it comes to gadget plays. But my point is watching
how Ben Johnson utilize those types of plays.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But they were not like your simple, traditional in the
round type.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Of plays, but these were like sophisticated gadget plays that
you're like, oh, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right, So I know, to use a lot of gadget plays.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It just seems as though you like creativity and you're
not too confidence in your roster. But the way that
he's running these gadget plays, to me, that change is
the narrative.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think there are wrinkles you can
add that aren't as long as you're putting your best
personnel doing the thing that they do best. Like yeah, okay,
a touchdown pass caught by bo Nix's fun from the
Knicks's fun. But that also takes your two best players
out of what they do best. Court of the Sudden's
best to catching the ball, bon Nicks the best of
throwing the ball. That's a fun little wrinkle, but you're
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not ever you're probably gonna replicate that again. Right For me,
what Ben Johnson does well is he still had Jared
Goff doing the throwing, he still had, you know, even
though they were trick plays or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Lining up Jamier Gibbs is a full back and then
using him on the wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I love that, you know, I love stuff like that,
but but I don't like stuff that takes your guys
out of what they do best and puts ask.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Them to do things that maybe they are not the
best at doing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know, I can see that because each guy has
a unique skill.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Set and you want them to focus on that skill set.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I still feel as though there's a way to
deploy your players in a trick play gadget type way
that that's entirely different from the traditional lining up in
the running back and lining up and the die, and
it's going to be a flea flicker, right, I mean
I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
With stuff like That's not that still has a running back,
you know, running the book when we see that all
the time, is like, give me something new, and the
flea flick are rarely worse. You rarely get sucked in
by the flea flicker. It's very rare. I mean, really,
it's running back. The best ones to get away with
it are guys that are overwhelmingly talented the position, like
you could get away with it with Derek Henry or
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Saquon Barkley, right because you're going to see a defense
suck up on that with them, Yes, but you're not
going to win. Chavante ran a fleet flicker like nobody
bought it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay, no, no one actually bought it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But the Broncos can utilize them with RGIE Harvey because
I'm if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
RJ. Harvey played a little quarter back high school.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
In high school, he converted to in fact he could
he was playing in college.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He converted in college before he got to u c F.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So that that would be a perfect thing to kind
of dial up if he is Sean Payton, work on
it and even if it's not successful, anytime there's any
kind of toss, sweep or any outside zone that the
fenders are going to be thinking, well, is this an
opportunity for him to throw the ball down the field.
And all you need is a split second for the
fenders to slow down. That's all you need.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
RJ. Harvey was a quarterback in Virginia. He transferred to
UCF and converted a running back.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
See it's kind of built into their office.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I see a.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Situation inside the Rizo where R. J. Harvey is throwing
a touchdown pass to Evan Inger. Cy I go the
other way with it, Okay, I would see it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
When you're backed up the other direction you run toss
for Harvey and you got Mims flying.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Out the Wait wait, wait, so so the Broncos are
backed up.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're back in their own territory. We're on our own terror.
We got we got bucks sweep going here with r J. Harvey,
except what we got built into the backside. Is it
either a bang eight or a bang nine with Marvin Mims.
And on that sweep, he's got the option of popping
up and throwing or continuing to go if he's got
the You know, I like stuff like that, or I
mean I like taking risk. But that's a huge Well,
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it's an option play.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You're kitchen to the running back, but the running back
has a he's an option, right, he's reading the he's
reading the block, and if the blocks aren't there, the
run isn't there. He's got he can look up and
see if the if the throw is there midfield maybe
backed up. Well, I'm not not backed up in your
goal line. But if you're you know, you just got
kicked off here on the twenty five. I'm there with
you know like that, you know you don't run that
backed up on.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Your goal line. Okay, I just want to make I'll
tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
One of my favorite calls when you're backed up inside
the five is running that half back screen. There's nobody's
looking for it at that point, but you've got to
be bang bang getting the ball to him because if
you don't, there's a lurking either edge rusher or nickel
corner right there looking at look at the house that thing.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But this is where the creativity for me in my mind,
and in year three, but year two with bow Nicks
and the three bit being Champagne being the head coach,
but seeing an evolution to the offense, and I think
we're going to see.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
More of it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And I hope that if you run a play and
is not positive, right it's a negative play, that you
don't give up on it and you say, you know what,
that guy's play that didn't work. I'm not running anymore.
Because we're seeing more teams and I go back to
Ben Johnson be more successful when they were willing to
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run some of those plays, especially at points in the
game where the defense isn't anticipated.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, you just got to be careful with those gambles though. Man,
you don't want to get snake bit rock this country
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And what will his role slash stats look like on
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either side of the ball when it's all said and
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That's a big question, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know, I expect that he'll probably you know, you know,
probably packages on both sides of the ball early in
the look to to flush those out and expand them.
Where he is as a starter or what he starts at.
I would I would guess his wide receiver with some
defensive packages, just based on the way they've talked about
it out of camp, although I would probably do it
the other way and make him a defender with wide
receiver packages.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We'll see. He'll sort itself out in camp as far
as the stats go.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I mean, it depends on which side of the ball
he lands on as his primary role. I don't believe
he'll be doing what he did in college, which is
ironman football all the time, but I do believe he'll
at least get packages both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think he's going to spend both of his time
on the defensive side of the ball. They're going to
be special toy packages put in specifically for him, because
let's not kid ourselves. They drafted him because they want
him to be a two way player because they know
what that's going to mean for their fan base, the brand.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And also for Trevor Lawrence and the guy.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
This skill we haven't really seen in a long time
in the NFL, and they are team that's willing to
allow him to do it. So we're going to see
a lot of red zone packages for him. I'm excited
to see how we kind of changes for him, but
just keep this in mind for a lot of fans,
we're going to see a lot of excitement this year
(16:02):
in Jacksonville, but very limited offense, more defense for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, they traded up, you know, a quarterback price to
go and get that guy. I think the only way
you can have a positional player live up to that
price is you know they're like Patrick's or Tan level
perennial all pro their entire career, which you could very
well be, or you're somehow playing them at multiple positions
getting offensive and defensive value out of them. That plus,
(16:29):
you know Gladstone's whole press conference about Travis Hunter reshaping
football as we know. It makes me think he's got
to at least get a solid look on both sides.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Pretty heavy usage through this first year.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I hate they thought as an organization, Jacksonville viewed it
as they were drafting two players for the price of one,
so that's kind of the price tag. Incidentally, it's kind
of interesting if you look at the history of the
drafts and trading up. If you trade up in the
first round for a quarterback, you're usually skumped. Usually usually
it does not work out, But if you trade up
for another position, it usually does.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's really interesting thing about that.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The last big trade up you had for somebody was
like the wide receiver for Jerry Judy. I mean, not
Jerry Judy, Hulo Jones. Yeah, Julio Jones. I mean, those
kinds of trades generally work for skill, but generally don't
for quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Two Bengals first round rookie.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Speaking of rookies, here, Shamar Stewart has left mandatory mini camp,
has his standoff with the Cincinnati Bengals, and their front
office continues to heat up. Who do you think is
in the right here, Either the Cincinnati Bengals or Shamar
Stewart and do you think Cincinnati will ever change their
penny pitching ways.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, the player's in the right here.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What he's asking for is, or what he's trying to
get them to stop doing, is using something that only
the Cincinnati Bengals do and put into contracts and in
giving themselves an out later on in terms of offsets.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's stupid. Cincinnati's being stupid.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
They've already got another defensive vand that they can't afford
to pay and aren't making any headway on it is
going to be holding out. This is your first round
draft pick your other options after Shamar Stewart right now,
Miles Murphy and Joseph Assie, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
This defense is already bad. What are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, this is kind of a bad look for the
Cincinnati Bengals, But me, let's be telling honest. Are we
surprised that the Bengals are doing something like this? I mean,
they pride themselves as being one of those teams that
are going to do things different from everyone else contractually
because guess what, there's revenue sharing in the league. This
is the thing that got them in trouble in years past.
(18:28):
But fortunate for them. They have t Higgins, Jamar Chase,
and they have Joe Burrow that they figures though that
would save them. But doing this it does send a
message to other draft picks around the league that this
too can be your future if you land with the
Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It just seems so unnecessarily cheap.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I mean, this is the first impression you're making with
Shamar Stewart, a guy who, if all things go to plan,
he'll be with you for ten years.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Bare minimum.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You should be with you at least four years unless
it's a colossal bust.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And this is the initial impression.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Do you think there's any chance Shamar Stewart gets moved.
I know there's some rules that have been shared on
Twitter about how maybe he could re enter the draft
next year if he continues to hold out.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, I think that's I think it's fairly likely. If
Cincinnati doesn't, I think he'd do it, And good for
him for sticking to his guns on that. That's I
was never a Shamar Stewart fan in terms of him
being drafted.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He was not a guy.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I think you look at him and I'm like, all right,
the measurables are there, But the production isn't when you
watch the tapes.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Kind of the same thing. I'm a little concerned with that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But on the other side of it, I mean, if
you're Cincinnati, you need bodies on that defense. It's that
defense is potentially the worst I've ever seen on paper,
and it's it's something to behold. You're going to have
the Cincinnati Bengals be a five win football team and
score thirty five points a game.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And I know how great Joe Burrow had over the past.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Two seasons not to make the playoffs, and it was all.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Based because the defense could really stop a noseblee.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Interesting. I just don't get it.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
If you don't trust this guy just they help, you
don't draft him exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Three former Bengals.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Speaking of that organization, Linebacker Jermaine Pratt has signed with
the Las Vegas Raiders on a one year deal.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Saying signing for the Raiders and do you think Jermaine
Pratt starts for them this upcoming season?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
It's a good signing.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I mean, Las Vegas needs all the help they can
get on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Speaking of you know, teams in need defense for help.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
All of a sudden, that defense is starting to look
a little a little nasty.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, I don't like their front four.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean, you got Max Crosby and Christian Wilkins, but
Adam Butler and Malcolm Coombs aren't he as starters. They
drafted Tyree Wilson a couple of years ago. He's he
hasn't even taken a starting role there, so that that
may be of us. But the linebacking, cor mean, you
got Jermain Pratt and the Landon Roberts probably starting.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You got Devin White backing them up.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Tommy Eichenberg wasn't any slouch, and then they added Jeremy
chan and Eric Stokes to that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Secondary're starting to.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Get They're starting to get a little bit of a
defense together.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Again.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I that front four outside of Crossby doesn't scare me.
But I like the signing here.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean, this signing is okay based on what the
Raiders want to do. Definitely fortifying that linebacker position to
back up Mix Crosby. Like you said, what is it
a type of move that kind of changes the whole
projection for the Raiders? Probably not, it makes them more competitive,
But to me, when you look at other teams within
(21:25):
the AFC West, I think there's other better groups that
are out there.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It just gives you something too.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I guess when you really look at it, you really
want to build your offense to be able to take
on this defense. So it's not something that the Broncos
or the Chargers or the Chiefs are shaking in their booths.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
They're not. Yeah, I don't think it'll have you shaking
in your boots.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But to your point, Bend, it feels like they're adding
some competency to that unit. And you give Patrick Graham
at least some competent players, and I think you can
cook up the pretty pretty solid defense.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's one thing I've always I think, whatever you think
of the Raiders, Pete Carroll had them playing a lot
harder than they You know, Pete Carroll will make sure
that you're playing here.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
If you're not, you're not gonna be there.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Poor newly minted Browns wide receiver and set me up
again then talking about guys who did not really try hard.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Newly minted Browns wide.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Receiver Deontae Johnson is out to change the narrative, he
said surrounding his career after a parade of teams gave
up on him last season. He bounced around between what
the Panthers, the Ravens, twice Steers, the Texans. He was
all over the place last season. Do you think he'll
be successful in that quest to try and rewrite his
(22:34):
narrative and change people's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Opinion of him? And if so, what do you think
that stat line is going to look like this season? Well,
he's not even on the first team there. I mean,
you're talking about your starting receivers.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
There are going to be Jerry Judy, Jamari Thrash and
Cedrii Tillman, who you know looked really good before he
got concussions last year. He would be on the second
line in terms of what that is wide receiver four
or five roughly. And then you've got quarterback questions. Who's
gonna who's gonna be throwing him the ball? Joe Flacco,
can he pick it? Gabriel se Door Sanders, not gonna
be de Shaan Watson. You know, I don't know in
(23:06):
terms of production, I certainly would be drafting him as
a fantasy option.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But he has a chance to resurrect his career.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You know, in that if you and if you've got
a quarterback, they can get him the ball more part
to him.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
This one is really interesting for me because we're talking
about a guy in twenty twenty four. He was on
three teams, right and eventually, at some point in the
circles of the NFL, after going through something like that,
your value starts to go down and then a question
becomes what type of locker room guy are you? Because
(23:37):
regardless of what we've seen of Johnson in the past,
what are you doing now?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Are you a poison inside the locker room? When when
you don't get the balls that you want, did.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You get so desperate that you badmount the coordinated the quarterback?
To me, I don't know what Johnson is going to
do with the Browns, but for me, this is a
very interesting one and I hate this.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I wouldn't have him be a part of my team,
well three teams last year.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And if you couldn't make it on the Steelers, I
mean and in Baltimore, those are the issues for me.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree if Jamari Thrash kind of to.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That point is a major impediment to you being able
to write this narrative in your own eyes. I don't
think it's going to be happening for you. That said,
he's one AFC North team away from completing his punch cards.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Maybe he'll catch on with the Bank now, that would
be a story within itself. Five.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Pete Carroll said today that despite the raiders serious interest
in Ashton gent that he won't be relying on just
one guy and that multiple members of that Raiders backfield
will see work. Do you expect Ashton Genty to be
part of a split backfield or do you think Pete
Carroll's just trying his best to keep his cards close
to his chef.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, there's no such thing as a non split backfield anymore.
I mean unless you're the Baltimore Ravens. I mean the
Eagles got you know, got running backs involved besides Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And I guess do you think he's getting off on
a technicality like that or do you think it'll be
a healthier rotation?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, I mean, you didn't bring Rahee Mostered in there
just to gather dust. The other part of that, though,
is who else is going to be a part of
that backfield because the other backs they have are not
particularly inspiring.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Sincere McCormick is a mere white. Those guys were just
guys last year.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Dylan Lobby hasn't been able to crack a lineup, and
Chris Collier's not you know.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
His Jags.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So you know, outside of Monster and Janty, I don't
see those guys getting With all the respect to mister
McCormick's sincere work.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, this sounds great to say for the off season,
but once we get into the season, it's about using
your workhorse back. And we know Pete Carrow from the
past is about playing great defense and carrying a run
game to help you at home and on the row.
So throwing a multitude of different running backs at opponents,
(25:59):
that's what she wants. So to Demons, a coordinator can't say, okay, well,
this is their bail cow back, this is their mus submit,
this is how we stopped him. To me, this is
where the league is right now. You need to have
multiple backs. Think about what the Broncos are doing.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You got JK. Dobbas and you have RJ.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Harvey also in the bullpen waiting possibly anologic estimate.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
But if I was a Raiders fan and Raheem Mostert
became the Tyler Algier to Ashton Gente's Jean Robinson.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think I might start a riot. Mustard's had some moments. Yeah,
I mean he's not you know, he's not been bad.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He gives you a bit of a home run threat
to maybe the other guys on the on the roster aren't.
But I mean, you know, we we're two years away
from a Mostard on the Miami team that couldn't throw
the football very well with a thousand over a thousand
yards and eighteen touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
But two years is a long time in running back years.
He's had some injuries since then, and it'll be thirty three. Yeah,
I agree, like he's he's a competent number two option,
But I mean you spent a top six pick on gentye.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I think feed the guy used. He's gonna get most
of work. But they're also the rookie wall.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I mean, most rookie running backs right around week twelve
start to fall off a clif they're not used to
NFL schedules where you got seventeen games, wouldn't consider this.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You're not using mostly as your number one running back.
He's coming in certain situations, third down, He's great catching
the ball out of the back trail. He's great on
the perimeter, so as a guy who has had injury
who's age of back is the perfect situation for him.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Six.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Ending with some Denver Broncos news here at the NFL
dot Com ranked the Denver Broncos as the NFL's sixth
best offense for this upcoming season. They're ranked notably ahead
of the Philadelphia Eagles, the Green Bay Packers, the Cincinnati Bengals,
and the Kansas City Chiefs. Those four teams round out
the top ten. The only teams ahead of the Denver
(27:45):
Broncos offensive attack ranked from first to fifth here are
the Buffalo Bills, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Baltimore Ravens,
the Washington Commanders, and the Detroit Lions. Do you agree
with that placement for the Denver Broncos or do you
think they should be either high, higher or lower than
do any other placements on that list?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Surprising who wrote this? Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
This very much surprises me. Having the Broncos ahead of honestly,
the Chargers, the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Who else?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Did you make the Bengals to be ahead of the
Bengals is ludicrous? Not that I don't expect Dever's offense
to be decent or effective or whatever. But the idea
that you're ranking them sixth in the league based on
what potential I guess, because what did they show that
makes you feel like that they are the sixth best
offense ahead of guys like like the Bengals who are
going to be all gas, no breaks that you know,
(28:32):
the Broncos have a top five defense, potentially number one,
but I would hesitate to put, to say, a top
ten offense.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I would agree with you because all of this, I
think is based on the defense expectations, the potential based
on last year, the additions, and no one has whole
though the defense if everything goes well, being able to
turn the ball over, giving the Broncos offense multiple opportunities
that changes the score in numbers, and the additions of
(29:02):
Evan Ingram.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
This article came up today, did it not?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So? Evan Ingram and then RJ. Harvey and JK. Dobbins,
you're getting that type of book. I would be slow
to put the Broncos offense right away because we haven't
seen it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Collectively actually deployed. Well.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
This is based on in my opinion, I don't know
the guy who wrote the article based on potential.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So that's what I Gennaro Felice to answer your question, Man,
is the same here new to me? The one that
really stuck out to me?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And I agree the Broncos seem a little high, but
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, after losing Liam Cohen, who seems
to be a really bright offensive mind, and you know,
having Godwin come off injury, Mike Evins is getting up there.
Then at number two was Ben Baker Mayfield at quarterback?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That that one surprised me A good day. Yeah, I
mean I thought Baker had a good season last.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Year, but once again getting another new offensive coordinator for
mayf Field. We're going to have to see how that
works out. Yeah, that seems incredibly optimistic. I would rather,
as Broncos fans, we can hope for that, certainly, but
I would rather set the bar a little bit lower
and be pleasantly surprised, and set the bar that high
and be disappointed long than your strategy.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I mean, it's you know.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Just saying, that's a bisim all right strategy to its finest.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Don't aim for the moon, aim for the trees. You'll
never miss see. Set the bar really really lower.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You can step over it, yeah, and then somehow still
limbo under it.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I can't I kid, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
News keeping you informed all nights on the Israel Ran
situation in any other developing news.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You guys, listen to Broncos Country night right here, okay
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