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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Peoria And Nick, how you doing, Bud?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm doing well, man.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It is a Monday to day after and usually you
know what that means, especially the start the season and
no victory for the Denver Broncos. It is definitely a
panic bow for certain individuals.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
You and I have yet to talk about this, so.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm interested to see how you looked at the game,
and more importantly, the outcome itself.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, the outcome not entirely unexpected by me. I did
not expect Denver to win. I didn't expect the offense
to look as ineffective as it looked. I did caution
quite a few times everybody to pump the brakes on
sort of the bow Knicks over hype that was coming
out of the preseason when we had our starters playing
against third stringers, four stringers, guys like that for the
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Colts and Packers, and we had Sean Payton dialing up
the offense in the preseason against people who were just
throwing vanilla coverages out there. So that for me says, hey,
let's pump the brakes a little bit on the over hype.
But on the flip side of that, it's one game.
He looked better than Caleb Williams looked in his debut.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Hoood.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Caleb was taking number one overall, and I don't think
they're panicking in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think there are there are things to like.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Bo didn't take sacks, there were some some throws he
definitely needs to clean up. I loved when he used
his legs. He made things happen. I wish you'd do
that a little more. Uh, there were things not to like.
The balls were by and large behind the receivers. You know,
there were a couple of I see people on Twitter
complaining about, uh got receivers dropping the ball. If you've
got a receiver running right to left and you put
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the ball behind him and he's reaching back, I don't
care if he got hands on Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Hard that is to catch.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know, you're going one way, the ball's going the
other way, and you're trying to you trying to make
a play on it. That's tough to do.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So I I you know, I'm not buying.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
A lot of the the excuses or the arguments for
Bo's performance. They tried to blame it on the offensive line.
I'm not liking that you try to blame it on receivers.
And I get separation.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
They were playing they were playing zone most of the day.
What are we talking about? Separation?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You gotta find the sauce spot and sit down and
the seams in the zone. So I, overall, I didn't
think it was a great performance by bo.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I thought it was a worse performance by Sean Tayton.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I thought the special teams of defense did what they could,
although defense sort of fell apart a little bit in
the second half after six or seven straight three and
outs and Seattle opened up the trap game after halftime.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Well, there's a lot of things that you said, I'm
back at all. Yeah, and right now we just have
to peel back the layers and just kind of comb
through it and really define what really went on. Now,
let me start with the offensive line. I knew going
into Seattle is a tough place to play because the
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crowd noise and when you get behind it makes them
look really difficult. But fortunate for the Broncos offensive line.
You know, the Broncos were kind of in it to
the end of the game, so they never really felt
the fuel, the full I guess pressure of the Seattle
fan base. But to only give up two sacks on
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the day, to me, you got to tip your cat
to the Broncos offensive line, and obviously at moments.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That they broke down.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But for me, where I feel as though I would
have liked to see Broncos take advantage is put the
owners in the pressure on your offensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This is the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
That's been together for a second year and they're getting
paid a substantial amount of money. And if I'm an
offensive lineman and listen, listen, great, you need to have
balance in any football game.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But to see the Broncos throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
As many times as they did and not put the
presser and put the ball in the hands of the
offensive line and let them drive people off the ball,
for me, that was a little disappointed. But I don't
put that on the players, because you can only execute
the players that are.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
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Speaker 1 (04:45):
Power strong. Dick, we got two minutes here to kind
of blitz this thing. I think the thing that bothered.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Me is we're seeing some of the same stuff that
Sean Payton does.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's a bit archaic.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Broncos were the second least pre snap motion team
in the NFL this week, we saw the same shuffling
in and out of.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Personnel groups all the time. It was eating up time.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Nobody could get We couldn't see Javonte getting a rhythm.
Now I know, the turf was slick. We saw him
fall down a couple times. He had some issues with
a turf there. Javante couldn't get going, and it really
the wheels just sort of fell off after you sort of.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Got into that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I did not like it, and I still do not
like the way that Sean Payton sort of does that.
And we look at a team like, for instance, New
Orleans this week. Now, granted their opponent was not much
of a threat in Carolina, but New Orleans went from
the Sean Payton offense to Click Kubiak and you know,
the Kubiak Shanahan offense, and all of a sudden, they're
making it rain when.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It comes to points. Is this offense outdated?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
No, I'm not gonna say that the offense is out
Data is just a matter of getting things together.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
From a play calling standpoint. When you look at the
number of.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Rushes to passes, there's twenty five rushes to forty two
passing attempts. That's entirely too many, and that puts your
offensive line pretty much across.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Here is where you have an.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Aggressive Mike McDonald defense that was getting down, you know,
the entire game.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
At some point you gotta let those big guys fire
one and punch guys in the face, not literally but
figuratively speaking to pretty much reset the tone for the
offensive lineman, but also showed that you have the faith
in them as a coach in the play call that
if you need to pick up a couple of yards
here and there, Hey, we're gonna turn it over to
you guys, and we're gonna lean on you guys because
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we expect for you to come up big for us.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
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Speaker 2 (06:38):
I The thing that most stood out at me about
this game is the way Seattle made the adjustments at
halftime and the Broncos just didn't. Seattle came out after
the half. They recognized that passing show that they were
run it was not working. They switched to the trap
game and they ran it right down the Broncos throat
and it was over from there.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, you might tip your cap to coach McDonald and
make you those halftime adjustments, because, like you said, they
made those adjustments both offensively and defensively. And I was
waiting to see, well, what was gonna happen from a
passing standpoint, because we knew that PS two was going
to get the duty of covering Metcalf the entire game.
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But then I was gonna leave Riley Moss. How was
he going to hold up? And listen to Roley Moss's
credit as a guy making.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
His first start, he did a hell of a job.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So we're not gonna start by criticizing him, because if
it was one time Jonathan Cooper was in the face
of Geno Smith, he throws off his back filly where
they say you were never supposed to do. It's a
back show to play and Roley Moss, unfortunate for him,
he didn't have long enough arms. If his longs were
a couple of inches longer, he breaks that pass up.
But give that credit to Tyler Lockett and General Smith's were.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Making that play. But it's all about in game adjustice, but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
More importantly, man, more importantly, can you execute when you
need to execute? And then when the Broncos needed to
they didn't get that done.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think the problem for me was several fold. I mean, again,
lack of balance on the offense. You put your rookie
in a situation where they were playing a tight zone
and they knew what was coming, and they just kept
trying to throw into the teeth of it, and I
just I just did not understand that game plan, even
when the run wasn't necessarily working there at the beginning.
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Run with purpose, have a design to run with purpose,
to execute a strategy, not just give it to them
for the dive on first down for two yards so
that you have a second night and you're hoping to
get to you know, to first down.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's interesting now you say that, because usually in games
like this, all you hear is running the ball, run
the ball, and it's like, no, it's there's a little
more to it than that, because sometimes you run with
the mess.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And you run with power.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But also understanding, okay, well, what side of your ball
is a left side or right side? That you could
say definitively will lead me a tough.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yard or two.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We're gonna run behind this side, and for me, I
would have thought it.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Would have been the right side, running right behind your
right guard and queer miners right And for me, that's
where I figured that last season when the Broncos were successful,
that's where they were able to pick up those jaws.
And I was looking for those types of plays, and
the Broncos tried to run some kind of toss plays,
but they were ill effective. And I was thinking, Okay, well,
what are the pen and pool plays. Let's let's get
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quick minds out in front so he could mow down
those aggressive linebackers coming from the second level and kick
out those corners.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Those plays we never saw.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, and Seattle figured something out in the second half
because they were running off their white side of their line.
They figured it out, and like I said, they were
running that dummy trap with both guards pulling to the outside.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
There it looked, like Ben said, it's not exactly it's
in this totality, but it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Reminded me of that old school Packers suite.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, kind of, I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Barty toss, you know, And it was it was it's a.
It's a it's called dummy trap and it's if you
pull both guards out there, and it was just fantastically effective.
And then the second gripe on that Alex Singleton has
got to get his nose dirty. That's got to be
a guy that gets up there at the hole. You
gotta get up there in the game. You can't make
the play come to you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Alex Singleton mops up with with the Brazilion tackles every year, but.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
He doesn't get up there in the hold on stopped
to play.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's letting guys get three four five yards deep before
he does anything with that.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Get up in there.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Well, listen, I'm gonna give you a little pushback because
this was on the play to the right side where Kndlwalker's.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Score going where he missed. Yeah, they missed the tackle.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, So North Fan kind of rubs up Johnday Cooper's rock.
He gets up to the second level and you can
see Alex Singleton tracking Kenneth Walker and he seemed like
he was gonna make the play. The problem was was
that when you look at Roley Moss on the outside,
even though he was to a closed side, he got
a little too tight from an alignment standpoint, and that
allowed the runner to bounce outside. If Roleigh Moss comes
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right off that coin off that tight ends backside, then
now ken to Walker has nowhere to go but to
get vertical, and Alex Singleton is able to make the tackle.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We've got a big show to Iroby.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Bean's gonna join us a little bit later on the
phone from CBS.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Always love talking to Rome.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But one of the other gripes that I have with
this offensive design, wait with them. You ever notice how
on the US they'll run a flat play and then
you've got to square in. We're on the right hand side, right,
you got to square in. You got the flat play,
and the flat you already know the flat defender is
not gonna, you know, not gonna take away the square in.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So what are we doing run that flat play?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why don't you wide the hook a little bit wider
and get that guy out of the out of position,
and then you've got a wide open play where your
receiver can catch a ball and maybe get some artagy
at to the catch, which this offense is not really designed.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
For it well, from a defensive standpoint, when you run
those types of plays. Have you run anything to set
that up to make that defender think that I gotta
take that route right now.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now, this is why you get to your spot.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And Seeatto did a great job having their drop players
get to this spot bring.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Their eyes right back to the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
But you gotta do something that to influence the hooks
flat defenders. If you don't, they're just gonna stand there
and this is gonna read the quarterback and bring on
the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That's what they did. And like you, it was it
was easy to see. Whatever they ran slat flat you
square in flat, whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They were running over there, it was easy to see
because the flat defender just kind of just like I
know what I'm doing here.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know, I'm taking the flat and.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Then I'll you know, if the quarterback looks the other way,
I'll peel off and there's.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No there's no threat there.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Like I by design would widen that thing out to
make sure you pull that flat to if you're if
you're really trying to pull that flat defender out to
get that receiver in behind him, do something to pull
him out.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
One And also here's a playoff and if if that
flat defender is stubboring, and he said, well, I'm gonna
stay right here.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Between you know, one yard off the numbers.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What you have to do now, you know, you can
kind of beat him inside and that inside of breaking up,
instead of telling that guy to carry that vertically, just
telling him sit down, go exactly I'm sit down and
flats your number right.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's exactly what I'm referencing though, And it feels like
like a lot of the complaints that I see as
I scroll through social media last night today, you have
guys that are like, well, the receivers didn't get any
yardage after the catch.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
This offense isn't designed for that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Unless you're unless it's a screenplay or or an HP choice,
most of these plays are not designed for yardage after
the catch. It's an old school West Coast offense. It's
designed to NICOLNDMI up and down the field. It's it's
a variance like what Sean Payton runs. It's just a
variant of what John Gruden used to run, you know,
back when Gruden was in Tampa. And no, Gruden's offense
updated when he which the Raiders a little bit. But
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it's they all come from the same tree. They all
come from that same back there in Philly. You know,
Andy Reid has got the most pass happy version of it.
But it is it is not an offense that is
designed for yardage after the catch. It's designed it's here's
a slant, bang, we got it. Okay, he's down, we're moving,
we're moving up here, we're getting you know that kind
of that. And Drew Brees got the most out of
it because he was Drew Brees and was a supercomputer
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and Drew Brees could work the seams as well. But
this is just not This is not an offense is
designed for that. It's not designed for a bunch of
vertical shots. People were talking about Martin Mims usage. Debriy
Henderson averaged two catches a game for his career, right
that the usage wasn't there, It's not what this offense is.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Well, no, there's two things that I would love to
see change with the Broncos offense.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
One using free slab motion.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean when you look, you know, second worst in
the league. Yeah, Browns, the only team is worse.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Well, once again, if.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
You look at Sean McVay what he's doing. You look
at Ben Johnson with the Detroit Lions Colin Shanahan. There's
always some movement and the reason you're running that movement
typically we hear, well it's identified man or zone. That
is partially true. But the idea is you want to
move defenders in proper places so you can crime to
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get to the second level and block them because this
game is about angles. The other thing is to reduce formations.
Now you think usually when you run reduced formations, it
alerts defensively like you're looking for shallows, or maybe it's
a pin and pull or toss crack. But the other
thing that you do, you bring the nickel defender, you
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bring the nickel linebacker in and then now when you
don't do anything, they're threatening them. Now you can send
them off the edges and now you got short corners.
And we saw Michael McDonald actually do that against the
Broncos on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
The other part of this had bothered me again, not
sticky with the running and not just running just to
run it, but running with purpose. Purpose here should have
been to pull them out of middle of the field
open coverages CE four C six C two and get
them down to one high, bringing a safety in the box.
So you get those vertical shots on the outside. They
didn't run it and set that up.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
But then in order for that to happen, as you
are breaking it down, you have to make the safeties.
And the guy calling the players defensively say, you know what,
they're gashing us on the run on the ground game.
So now we need to bring an extra guy in
the box. But if you go away from the run game,
you really don't establish it. Now you can sit in
a too high, you can rob, you can do all
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these types of things. And this is why Seattle defensive players.
You know, look man, as a person who coached and
played the defense, Look, I love what I was watching
from Vance Joseph and McDonald's because both of those defensive.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Units were getting down hill.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
But unfortunately for the Denver Broncos, every time they threw
a swing run in the flat or they threw a
coral route, you had one, two, three defenders all running
to the ball with pursuit.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, game could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Knicks could have had up to up to five interceptions
depending on how you look at it. Benjamin, all Right,
Nick Ferguson, here, Broncos country tonight, we got to hit
a break.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We'll come back and go breakfasting down a little bit further.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
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Speaker 3 (16:12):
Sports, wet blanket, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
This is the Broncos Country tonight right now, Bengament all right.
Nick Ferguson here with you got a crowd here. This
is a This is totally an interesting place. We talked
about it a little bit, Nick here and there. They
got the pickle ball courts over there.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm watching people play back over there.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
They got the uh, the wall there so you could
see it happen, but you don't have to hear the sound,
so it's not like it's.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Loud or anything like that. Obviously, you got Monday night
football going on right now.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Jets any San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Uh it it feels like we're playing full on football
season now.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, it definitely does.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And as you were saying that, I was thinking, and
maybe they put the glasses there so maybe they don't
really have to hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I figured that's why that was constructed. Originally, that wasn't
even there. They heard we were broadcasting and they just
put a wall up too quickly.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
They put it there right, Yeah, what no, No, Sporty Pickle.
I mean this is my first time actually being here,
and it's great to see the setup and the number
of people who are here, uh, eating food, taking part
in the pickleball and watching the game tonight. So great atmosphere,
game to the atmosphere. If you have not been to
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Sporty Pickle, you definitely need to get over and tried out.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, they got good food, good drink specials, all that
kind of stuff you guys want to get down here.
This is an innovative bar, you know, certainly a lot
of fun. They got some outdoor patio stuff. It's it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Lot of fun here, So come on out, say hi
to us.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Get stef qualified to win some club level seats to
the Home Open if you don't have them already, so
look forward to that. But a lot of stuff on
the Tyreek Hill situation has come out over the last
couple of hours. The body camp footage has come out.
I don't know if you've seen that yet, Nick, we'll
talk about that top of the hour. We'll get into
that situation as well. We got a we got a
new season here for the Denver Broncos. But it does
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feel a bit like the same tendencies. You know, we're
sort of seeing the same offense that we saw with
the same results as Russell Wilson, except we're not seeing
them cut Russ loose in the fourth quarter and let
them do Russ things and bail us out.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Is there an on ramp at some point here? Is
there a point.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Where this offense, which you know to be charitable, has
been abandoned by the rest of the league. Is there
a point where this offense picks up and molds back
into what Sean Payton is famous for when he was
paired up with Drew Brees down there in New Orleans.
Or are we going to continue to be banging the
hair against the wall looking at a quarterback that we're
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trying to build into something with an offense that may
not have a place in the league anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, I surely hope so, Ben.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And the reason I say that because you know, week
to week there's a different opponent opponent, and you look
to attack that person or that team differently, and you
can't continue doing the same things that you did ten
to fifteen years ago, because it's called the evolution of
the game, and you have to understand you're looking at
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some of the talent that the Broncos currently have on
their roster, and George Baton did a great job of,
you know, putting this roster together.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You have to find ways.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
To accentuate the skill set of each individual player.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And what I mean by that is, for me, I'm
not only going to.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Speak on it from a defensive standpoint. Things that typically
give defensive units no matter what coverage you're playing. Man
is one issues and we're talking about layering your routes.
When you layer your routes, you make it easier for
a young quarterback, even a veteran quarterback, to go through
the progressions and go.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
One, two, three.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
All of these routes are online right in front of
me over the center. If that's not the case, we're
going to move from left to right or right to left,
all saying okay, well here's your first read. They're all
going to go and want to particular direction and all
you need to do is move your eyes in that
area and deliver the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Bruce Arians and Tom Moore were famous for levels and kind.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Of layering the routes like that. That was the thing.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And it doesn't feel like we're doing a lot of
that here. If you go back and you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Look at it at Sean Payton's play design, I mean
there were some of these things.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The interception where he threw it a triple coverage, the
second interception get three guys out.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
In the rout Well, okay, so let me break that down.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, it was an interception.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Should he have thrown it, No, But for me in
that situation, now your young quarterback is feeling a little pressure,
and now he's pressing and calling sudden was to go
to receive it?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Now? Do you build another complimentary route off of that?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But having calling dragged from the.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Left side of the field all the way to the right,
you brought the linebacker.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Into the mix. And even if.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Even if Wiland didn't come underneath and still it, you
had the safety who was coming down. Because here's where
boat Knicks has to be better. He can't stare down
or receive it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And I'm totally with you on that for your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Can't ever stir a guy down, can't sum down. And
I'm gonna give this out here. You had three guys
on a route on that place. You had Cortland going
left to right, on that on the crosser right, you
had the back out to the flat on the on
the right hand side. It was supposed to get that
that soft spot defender to bite down, and the only
other guy you had a route was Javontae on the
back side of the play on an HP circle that
really wasn't a thing at all. It's supposed to pin
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the backside safety in case he takes off on the wheel,
but it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So everyone knew where.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
He was going with the ball like there was nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Stearing him down was the only thing to do because
it was nowhere else to go with the ball.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, I mean in those cases where you see for me,
and it happens a lot around the NFL, when you
see a lot of these two man routes right to me.
If those two routes are taken away, where else do
you have to distribute the ball?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And once again, you got to give Seattle defensive guys
on the second.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
And third level a lot of credit because they were
not jumping on those influence routes where you put the
check down right in front of him. Those guys were
well disciplined, well coached. For the first game of the season,
we'll see how the kind of translates for them moving forward.
But when you have guys getting to their spot, this
is why it is so important if you're playing Zoe
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for your guys to know where the spot drops are,
get to your landmarks. Survey the field did, collect data
and draw your eyes back to the quarterback. Seattle did
that well, and that put both Nick's in a tough situation.
What I'd like to see him do in that situation,
understanding that you have three defenders around your one guy,
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throw it out a.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Bounce and just eat it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
To me, the play design was a large part of
the problem. Again, then the checkdown guy wasn't reading really
a checkdown guy. He was designed to take that flat
defender to the wall, right, He was designed to take
him out of the play since you just.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Had a clear view of the crosses that you're staring
down the whole time.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
But everybody figured it out right, and it even added
Argoletto on the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Like well, he loaded up to throw the ball like
it was.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It was obvious to everybody in the stadium. Incident designed,
to me, was inherently part of the problem. Five six, six,
nine year olds of tech Line guys want to get
all the conversation obviously down here at the Sporty Pickle
here in Centennial, half mile north of four seventy on Peoria.
I had to say the jalapeno popper pizza earlier and
it was delicious.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So if you guys get on out here you want to,
I want to try some of that. Nick has not
delved in on any food yet. We're gonna see if
we can get him to to sample something here.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Probably they got some kind of funnel cake fries that I, uh,
I'm gonna wreck my diet over funnel cake fry. Yeah,
I saw that on the menu. I'm gonna wreck my
diet over that. Later, well, i'll tell.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
You what you order it, and uh, you and I
can split it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You will look at it and be like, I don't
know if I can eat that or not. Just looking
at it might increase my my caloric into too high.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It might, But you know what mount high profit is
here is the prophets here, and his wife is here.
So if you can't take it down yourself, we can might.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I might be able to get him to share. We'll
see we can distribute it. He's like he's look It
feels like the scene from a Saturday Live with.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Me.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, we're having a good time down here.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Come on down.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I think got pickupball courts in the bar. How can
you beat that with a stick?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I gotta love it coming down here to the Sporty
Pickle again. It is half mile north of E four
to seventy right there on Peoria.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Can't can't miss. It's a good time down here.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We did determine that they put the glass up there
not to shield people from the sounds to pick a ball,
but to shield the pickleballers from.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
The sound of my voice. And I think that is
a fantastic business move on the Sporty Pickles. Part five,
six six nine zero is the text line. You guys
want to get down here because we are giving away
about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I think we're giving away some some tickets club level
seats to the home opener against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Cursing here a ka.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You also want to get down here and qualified for
the Javonte Williams autograph jersey the Pats are Tan autograph helmet.
We're just giving stuff away here at KOA. Come get
it and come get qualified for it. Nick, we are
mourning the opening season loss, but I also think that
this is okay in a sense because it gives us
a starting point to build from. Here's what bo Nicks
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can do, Here's what he can't do. He did look
a little bit nervous that one. There are things I
think to look at this and say, Okay, we need
to scrap these things, we need to build better on
these things. I think there's tape to look at here
at be hopeful about, even if it was not exactly
what everybody was looking forward to seeing on Sundays.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well, this is going to sound like it's negative, but
this was kind of what I anticipated because playing in
Seattle is very tough, and then being a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Albeit that we watched both Nicks play.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Well and show a similar signs to what we saw
at Oregon in the preseason game, but there's no game
planning at that time, so teams have more an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
To game plan. And you can see, even though you talking.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
About the Rickey quarterback to Seattle defense was facing, there's
a little gamesmanship involved in that as well, because you
play who you have to play. Now to your point,
there were a lot of things to like about the
game on Sunday. Being defensive, yeah, I'm going to go
to the defensive side of the ball, similar to what
we saw last year even when Russ was here. There
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were some moments where the defense made great plays putting
the offense.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In position to score points.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Unfortunately, they didn't get a lot of them and didn't capitalize.
So I do like what I saw from the defense,
and I want to highlight a couple of guys from
one brought up the bad PS two mess up on
DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Exceptional job on his part.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
But when you talk about showing a burst of speed
and being able to impact the quarterback right away, John
deak Cooper was able to do that.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He showed up and.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Zach Allen, I mean talk about a quick first step
getting past the guard to let the quarterback Gino Smith
feel you and showing that he had either step up
or get rid of the ball. Those are things that
I love seeing. And obviously Alex Singleton, being the tackle
on machine that he is, there were a couple of
plays that he missed, one being be Kin the Walker play.
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I'm not going to put that all on him, and
I know Alfa Walliams probably driving home. He thinks it's
all on Alex Singleton on that play. You go back
and watch it anytime you warn about you're getting downhill.
Nor Fan came inside. So when Walker bounced, he's making
it a little he's taking that play. If it was
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a lead iso, yes, Alex Singleton makes that play. But
the running back Kendick Walker ran towards the sideline.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Making it further for him to go. But Roley monks
if you get him a little outside.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
They corralled Kenneth Walker and they stopped to play. Man
listen across the board. There's some things that you want
to clean up. But I'm excited about what I saw
and I feel is that this game is going to
help the Broncos Bill Kallas moving forward because you you
lose a tough game like this where the Broncos could
have won but they didn't. But then you start looking
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at the bright side instead of looking at things from
a negative standpoint. What they do well, are there things
that you can build on. That's how I like to
assess this game.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm hoping that Sean Payton can put aside ego because
it felt like to me that this was sort of
an ego game. I'm gonna get my passer guy passing
the ball rather than doing what should have done and
attacking a defense that invites you to run against it.
If you go back and look at the tape the
last two years for Baltimore, that's how you beat them.
You beat him by running the ball at him because
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it is it's a tight mid zone there and if
you go to you just run into that zone until
they pull that high safety down into the box, and
that's when you take your shots. With the passing, it
felt like he wanted to get Bonnicks in a rhythm.
I want to showcase my guy.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This is my thing.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Did Sean Payton get too excited at the prospect of
showcasing his guy?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, I don't think it was.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He wanted to showcase his guy in particular. Here's a
couple of things that were at work. Yeah, you had
a shining new toy and row Nicks and everyone was
talking about him.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And we know what happened last.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Year where there was a lot of chemistry between Sean
Payton and Russell Wilson. So now, yes, do you want
to show what bo Knicks can actually do? And that
what we saw in the preseason he can actually do
in the regular season. Absolutely, but the bigger things for me,
and you tell me what you think as far as
this is concerned, because the Broncos were in effective running
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the ball, did Sean Payton abandoned it too quickly?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And when he abandoned it, he's just.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Like, you know what, I'm just going to go full
tilt on just throwing the ball. Just Unfortunately, there was
a couple of drop passes, there were a couple of
passes that were ill advised and throw mahon receivers and
not to mention the two interceptions. So to me, it's
a microcosm of all those things.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
But hopefully there is a learning.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Process going here to say, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well here's where we need to be better from an
execution standpoint from players, but also here's where you need
you could be better from a play called against skiing standpoint.
And once again, here's a great thing about it, Ben,
this is the first game of the season.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
This is not the last game by the season.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And we're going into the offseason right This is the
first game of the season.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
The Broncos are home against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Let's see how they change and adjust against what's gonna
be another tough game against another good defense.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
We'll get a chance to set that up in a
little bit roun mean being coming up seven.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
To thirty five. We come back.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The Tyreek Hill bodycam video is out.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
We're gonna discuss that.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
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weekend right here from KOA where I've heard here at
the Sporty Pickle in Centennial half mile north of E
four to seventy on.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Peoria And Nick, how you doing, Bud?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm doing well, man.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It is a Monday to day after and usually you
know what that means, especially the start the season and
no victory for the Denver Broncos. It is definitely a
panic bow for certain individuals.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
You and I have yet to talk about this, so.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm interested to see how you looked at the game,
and more importantly, the outcome itself.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, the outcome not entirely unexpected by me. I did
not expect Denver to win. I didn't expect the offense
to look as ineffective as it looked. I did caution
quite a few times everybody to pump the brakes on
sort of the bow Knicks over hype that was coming
out of the preseason when we had our starters playing
against third stringers, four stringers, guys like that for the
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Colts and Packers, and we had Sean Payton dialing up
the offense in the preseason against people who were just
throwing vanilla coverages out there. So that for me says, hey,
let's pump the brakes a little bit on the over hype.
But on the flip side of that, it's one game.
He looked better than Caleb Williams looked in his debut.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Hoood.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Caleb was taking number one overall, and I don't think
they're panicking in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think there are there are things to like.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Bo didn't take sacks, there were some some throws he
definitely needs to clean up. I loved when he used
his legs. He made things happen. I wish you'd do
that a little more. Uh, there were things not to like.
The balls were by and large behind the receivers. You know,
there were a couple of I see people on Twitter
complaining about, uh got receivers dropping the ball. If you've
got a receiver running right to left and you put
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the ball behind him and he's reaching back, I don't
care if he got hands on Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Hard that is to catch.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know, you're going one way, the ball's going the
other way, and you're trying to you trying to make
a play on it. That's tough to do.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So I I you know, I'm not buying.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
A lot of the the excuses or the arguments for
Bo's performance. They tried to blame it on the offensive line.
I'm not liking that you try to blame it on receivers.
And I get separation.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
They were playing they were playing zone most of the day.
What are we talking about? Separation?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You gotta find the sauce spot and sit down and
the seams in the zone. So I, overall, I didn't
think it was a great performance by bo.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I thought it was a worse performance by Sean Tayton.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I thought the special teams of defense did what they could,
although defense sort of fell apart a little bit in
the second half after six or seven straight three and
outs and Seattle opened up the trap game after halftime.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Well, there's a lot of things that you said, I'm
back at all. Yeah, and right now we just have
to peel back the layers and just kind of comb
through it and really define what really went on. Now,
let me start with the offensive line. I knew going
into Seattle is a tough place to play because the
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crowd noise and when you get behind it makes them
look really difficult. But fortunate for the Broncos offensive line.
You know, the Broncos were kind of in it to
the end of the game, so they never really felt
the fuel, the full I guess pressure of the Seattle
fan base. But to only give up two sacks on
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the day, to me, you got to tip your cat
to the Broncos offensive line, and obviously at moments.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That they broke down.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But for me, where I feel as though I would
have liked to see Broncos take advantage is put the
owners in the pressure on your offensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This is the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
That's been together for a second year and they're getting
paid a substantial amount of money. And if I'm an
offensive lineman and listen, listen, great, you need to have
balance in any football game.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But to see the Broncos throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
As many times as they did and not put the
presser and put the ball in the hands of the
offensive line and let them drive people off the ball,
for me, that was a little disappointed. But I don't
put that on the players, because you can only execute
the players that are.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
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Speaker 1 (04:45):
Power strong. Dick, we got two minutes here to kind
of blitz this thing. I think the thing that bothered.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Me is we're seeing some of the same stuff that
Sean Payton does.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's a bit archaic.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Broncos were the second least pre snap motion team
in the NFL this week, we saw the same shuffling
in and out of.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Personnel groups all the time. It was eating up time.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Nobody could get We couldn't see Javonte getting a rhythm.
Now I know, the turf was slick. We saw him
fall down a couple times. He had some issues with
a turf there. Javante couldn't get going, and it really
the wheels just sort of fell off after you sort of.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Got into that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I did not like it, and I still do not
like the way that Sean Payton sort of does that.
And we look at a team like, for instance, New
Orleans this week. Now, granted their opponent was not much
of a threat in Carolina, but New Orleans went from
the Sean Payton offense to Click Kubiak and you know,
the Kubiak Shanahan offense, and all of a sudden, they're
making it rain when.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It comes to points. Is this offense outdated?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
No, I'm not gonna say that the offense is out
Data is just a matter of getting things together.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
From a play calling standpoint. When you look at the
number of.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Rushes to passes, there's twenty five rushes to forty two
passing attempts. That's entirely too many, and that puts your
offensive line pretty much across.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Here is where you have an.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Aggressive Mike McDonald defense that was getting down, you know,
the entire game.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
At some point you gotta let those big guys fire
one and punch guys in the face, not literally but
figuratively speaking to pretty much reset the tone for the
offensive lineman, but also showed that you have the faith
in them as a coach in the play call that
if you need to pick up a couple of yards
here and there, Hey, we're gonna turn it over to
you guys, and we're gonna lean on you guys because
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we expect for you to come up big for us.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
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Speaker 2 (06:38):
I The thing that most stood out at me about
this game is the way Seattle made the adjustments at
halftime and the Broncos just didn't. Seattle came out after
the half. They recognized that passing show that they were
run it was not working. They switched to the trap
game and they ran it right down the Broncos throat
and it was over from there.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, you might tip your cap to coach McDonald and
make you those halftime adjustments, because, like you said, they
made those adjustments both offensively and defensively. And I was
waiting to see, well, what was gonna happen from a
passing standpoint, because we knew that PS two was going
to get the duty of covering Metcalf the entire game.
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But then I was gonna leave Riley Moss. How was
he going to hold up? And listen to Roley Moss's
credit as a guy making.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
His first start, he did a hell of a job.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So we're not gonna start by criticizing him, because if
it was one time Jonathan Cooper was in the face
of Geno Smith, he throws off his back filly where
they say you were never supposed to do. It's a
back show to play and Roley Moss, unfortunate for him,
he didn't have long enough arms. If his longs were
a couple of inches longer, he breaks that pass up.
But give that credit to Tyler Lockett and General Smith's were.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Making that play. But it's all about in game adjustice, but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
More importantly, man, more importantly, can you execute when you
need to execute? And then when the Broncos needed to
they didn't get that done.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think the problem for me was several fold. I mean, again,
lack of balance on the offense. You put your rookie
in a situation where they were playing a tight zone
and they knew what was coming, and they just kept
trying to throw into the teeth of it, and I
just I just did not understand that game plan, even
when the run wasn't necessarily working there at the beginning.
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Run with purpose, have a design to run with purpose,
to execute a strategy, not just give it to them
for the dive on first down for two yards so
that you have a second night and you're hoping to
get to you know, to first down.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's interesting now you say that, because usually in games
like this, all you hear is running the ball, run
the ball, and it's like, no, it's there's a little
more to it than that, because sometimes you run with
the mess.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And you run with power.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But also understanding, okay, well, what side of your ball
is a left side or right side? That you could
say definitively will lead me a tough.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yard or two.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We're gonna run behind this side, and for me, I
would have thought it.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Would have been the right side, running right behind your
right guard and queer miners right And for me, that's
where I figured that last season when the Broncos were successful,
that's where they were able to pick up those jaws.
And I was looking for those types of plays, and
the Broncos tried to run some kind of toss plays,
but they were ill effective. And I was thinking, Okay, well,
what are the pen and pool plays. Let's let's get
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quick minds out in front so he could mow down
those aggressive linebackers coming from the second level and kick
out those corners.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Those plays we never saw.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, and Seattle figured something out in the second half
because they were running off their white side of their line.
They figured it out, and like I said, they were
running that dummy trap with both guards pulling to the outside.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
There it looked, like Ben said, it's not exactly it's
in this totality, but it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Reminded me of that old school Packers suite.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, kind of, I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Barty toss, you know, And it was it was it's a.
It's a it's called dummy trap and it's if you
pull both guards out there, and it was just fantastically effective.
And then the second gripe on that Alex Singleton has
got to get his nose dirty. That's got to be
a guy that gets up there at the hole. You
gotta get up there in the game. You can't make
the play come to you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Alex Singleton mops up with with the Brazilion tackles every year, but.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
He doesn't get up there in the hold on stopped
to play.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's letting guys get three four five yards deep before
he does anything with that.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Get up in there.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Well, listen, I'm gonna give you a little pushback because
this was on the play to the right side where Kndlwalker's.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Score going where he missed. Yeah, they missed the tackle.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, So North Fan kind of rubs up Johnday Cooper's rock.
He gets up to the second level and you can
see Alex Singleton tracking Kenneth Walker and he seemed like
he was gonna make the play. The problem was was
that when you look at Roley Moss on the outside,
even though he was to a closed side, he got
a little too tight from an alignment standpoint, and that
allowed the runner to bounce outside. If Roleigh Moss comes
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right off that coin off that tight ends backside, then
now ken to Walker has nowhere to go but to
get vertical, and Alex Singleton is able to make the tackle.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We've got a big show to Iroby.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Bean's gonna join us a little bit later on the
phone from CBS.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Always love talking to Rome.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But one of the other gripes that I have with
this offensive design, wait with them. You ever notice how
on the US they'll run a flat play and then
you've got to square in. We're on the right hand side, right,
you got to square in. You got the flat play,
and the flat you already know the flat defender is
not gonna, you know, not gonna take away the square in.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So what are we doing run that flat play?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why don't you wide the hook a little bit wider
and get that guy out of the out of position,
and then you've got a wide open play where your
receiver can catch a ball and maybe get some artagy
at to the catch, which this offense is not really designed.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
For it well, from a defensive standpoint, when you run
those types of plays. Have you run anything to set
that up to make that defender think that I gotta
take that route right now.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now, this is why you get to your spot.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And Seeatto did a great job having their drop players
get to this spot bring.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Their eyes right back to the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
But you gotta do something that to influence the hooks
flat defenders. If you don't, they're just gonna stand there
and this is gonna read the quarterback and bring on
the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That's what they did. And like you, it was it
was easy to see. Whatever they ran slat flat you
square in flat, whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They were running over there, it was easy to see
because the flat defender just kind of just like I
know what I'm doing here.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know, I'm taking the flat and.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Then I'll you know, if the quarterback looks the other way,
I'll peel off and there's.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No there's no threat there.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Like I by design would widen that thing out to
make sure you pull that flat to if you're if
you're really trying to pull that flat defender out to
get that receiver in behind him, do something to pull
him out.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
One And also here's a playoff and if if that
flat defender is stubboring, and he said, well, I'm gonna
stay right here.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Between you know, one yard off the numbers.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What you have to do now, you know, you can
kind of beat him inside and that inside of breaking up,
instead of telling that guy to carry that vertically, just
telling him sit down, go exactly I'm sit down and
flats your number right.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's exactly what I'm referencing though, And it feels like
like a lot of the complaints that I see as
I scroll through social media last night today, you have
guys that are like, well, the receivers didn't get any
yardage after the catch.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
This offense isn't designed for that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Unless you're unless it's a screenplay or or an HP choice,
most of these plays are not designed for yardage after
the catch. It's an old school West Coast offense. It's
designed to NICOLNDMI up and down the field. It's it's
a variance like what Sean Payton runs. It's just a
variant of what John Gruden used to run, you know,
back when Gruden was in Tampa. And no, Gruden's offense
updated when he which the Raiders a little bit. But
(13:12):
it's they all come from the same tree. They all
come from that same back there in Philly. You know,
Andy Reid has got the most pass happy version of it.
But it is it is not an offense that is
designed for yardage after the catch. It's designed it's here's
a slant, bang, we got it. Okay, he's down, we're moving,
we're moving up here, we're getting you know that kind
of that. And Drew Brees got the most out of
it because he was Drew Brees and was a supercomputer
(13:33):
and Drew Brees could work the seams as well. But
this is just not This is not an offense is
designed for that. It's not designed for a bunch of
vertical shots. People were talking about Martin Mims usage. Debriy
Henderson averaged two catches a game for his career, right
that the usage wasn't there, It's not what this offense is.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Well, no, there's two things that I would love to
see change with the Broncos offense.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
One using free slab motion.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean when you look, you know, second worst in
the league. Yeah, Browns, the only team is worse.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Well, once again, if.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
You look at Sean McVay what he's doing. You look
at Ben Johnson with the Detroit Lions Colin Shanahan. There's
always some movement and the reason you're running that movement
typically we hear, well it's identified man or zone. That
is partially true. But the idea is you want to
move defenders in proper places so you can crime to
(14:24):
get to the second level and block them because this
game is about angles. The other thing is to reduce formations.
Now you think usually when you run reduced formations, it
alerts defensively like you're looking for shallows, or maybe it's
a pin and pull or toss crack. But the other
thing that you do, you bring the nickel defender, you
(14:44):
bring the nickel linebacker in and then now when you
don't do anything, they're threatening them. Now you can send
them off the edges and now you got short corners.
And we saw Michael McDonald actually do that against the
Broncos on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
The other part of this had bothered me again, not
sticky with the running and not just running just to
run it, but running with purpose. Purpose here should have
been to pull them out of middle of the field
open coverages CE four C six C two and get
them down to one high, bringing a safety in the box.
So you get those vertical shots on the outside. They
didn't run it and set that up.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
But then in order for that to happen, as you
are breaking it down, you have to make the safeties.
And the guy calling the players defensively say, you know what,
they're gashing us on the run on the ground game.
So now we need to bring an extra guy in
the box. But if you go away from the run game,
you really don't establish it. Now you can sit in
a too high, you can rob, you can do all
(15:33):
these types of things. And this is why Seattle defensive players.
You know, look man, as a person who coached and
played the defense, Look, I love what I was watching
from Vance Joseph and McDonald's because both of those defensive.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Units were getting down hill.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
But unfortunately for the Denver Broncos, every time they threw
a swing run in the flat or they threw a
coral route, you had one, two, three defenders all running
to the ball with pursuit.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, game could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Knicks could have had up to up to five interceptions
depending on how you look at it. Benjamin, all Right,
Nick Ferguson, here, Broncos country tonight, we got to hit
a break.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We'll come back and go breakfasting down a little bit further.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
This is the Kiaway Safety AM Night four, NFL News Talk.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Sports, wet blanket, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
This is the Broncos Country tonight right now, Bengament all right.
Nick Ferguson here with you got a crowd here. This
is a This is totally an interesting place. We talked
about it a little bit, Nick here and there. They
got the pickle ball courts over there.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm watching people play back over there.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
They got the uh, the wall there so you could
see it happen, but you don't have to hear the sound,
so it's not like it's.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Loud or anything like that. Obviously, you got Monday night
football going on right now.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Jets any San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Uh it it feels like we're playing full on football
season now.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, it definitely does.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And as you were saying that, I was thinking, and
maybe they put the glasses there so maybe they don't
really have to hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I figured that's why that was constructed. Originally, that wasn't
even there. They heard we were broadcasting and they just
put a wall up too quickly.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
They put it there right, Yeah, what no, No, Sporty Pickle.
I mean this is my first time actually being here,
and it's great to see the setup and the number
of people who are here, uh, eating food, taking part
in the pickleball and watching the game tonight. So great atmosphere,
game to the atmosphere. If you have not been to
(17:18):
Sporty Pickle, you definitely need to get over and tried out.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, they got good food, good drink specials, all that
kind of stuff you guys want to get down here.
This is an innovative bar, you know, certainly a lot
of fun. They got some outdoor patio stuff. It's it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Lot of fun here, So come on out, say hi
to us.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Get stef qualified to win some club level seats to
the Home Open if you don't have them already, so
look forward to that. But a lot of stuff on
the Tyreek Hill situation has come out over the last
couple of hours. The body camp footage has come out.
I don't know if you've seen that yet, Nick, we'll
talk about that top of the hour. We'll get into
that situation as well. We got a we got a
new season here for the Denver Broncos. But it does
(17:54):
feel a bit like the same tendencies. You know, we're
sort of seeing the same offense that we saw with
the same results as Russell Wilson, except we're not seeing
them cut Russ loose in the fourth quarter and let
them do Russ things and bail us out.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Is there an on ramp at some point here? Is
there a point.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Where this offense, which you know to be charitable, has
been abandoned by the rest of the league. Is there
a point where this offense picks up and molds back
into what Sean Payton is famous for when he was
paired up with Drew Brees down there in New Orleans.
Or are we going to continue to be banging the
hair against the wall looking at a quarterback that we're
(18:34):
trying to build into something with an offense that may
not have a place in the league anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, I surely hope so, Ben.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And the reason I say that because you know, week
to week there's a different opponent opponent, and you look
to attack that person or that team differently, and you
can't continue doing the same things that you did ten
to fifteen years ago, because it's called the evolution of
the game, and you have to understand you're looking at
(19:02):
some of the talent that the Broncos currently have on
their roster, and George Baton did a great job of,
you know, putting this roster together.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You have to find ways.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
To accentuate the skill set of each individual player.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And what I mean by that is, for me, I'm
not only going to.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Speak on it from a defensive standpoint. Things that typically
give defensive units no matter what coverage you're playing. Man
is one issues and we're talking about layering your routes.
When you layer your routes, you make it easier for
a young quarterback, even a veteran quarterback, to go through
the progressions and go.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
One, two, three.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
All of these routes are online right in front of
me over the center. If that's not the case, we're
going to move from left to right or right to left,
all saying okay, well here's your first read. They're all
going to go and want to particular direction and all
you need to do is move your eyes in that
area and deliver the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Bruce Arians and Tom Moore were famous for levels and kind.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Of layering the routes like that. That was the thing.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And it doesn't feel like we're doing a lot of
that here. If you go back and you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Look at it at Sean Payton's play design, I mean
there were some of these things.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The interception where he threw it a triple coverage, the
second interception get three guys out.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
In the rout Well, okay, so let me break that down.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, it was an interception.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Should he have thrown it, No, But for me in
that situation, now your young quarterback is feeling a little pressure,
and now he's pressing and calling sudden was to go
to receive it?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Now? Do you build another complimentary route off of that?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But having calling dragged from the.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Left side of the field all the way to the right,
you brought the linebacker.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Into the mix. And even if.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Even if Wiland didn't come underneath and still it, you
had the safety who was coming down. Because here's where
boat Knicks has to be better. He can't stare down
or receive it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And I'm totally with you on that for your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Can't ever stir a guy down, can't sum down. And
I'm gonna give this out here. You had three guys
on a route on that place. You had Cortland going
left to right, on that on the crosser right, you
had the back out to the flat on the on
the right hand side. It was supposed to get that
that soft spot defender to bite down, and the only
other guy you had a route was Javontae on the
back side of the play on an HP circle that
really wasn't a thing at all. It's supposed to pin
(21:18):
the backside safety in case he takes off on the wheel,
but it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So everyone knew where.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
He was going with the ball like there was nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Stearing him down was the only thing to do because
it was nowhere else to go with the ball.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, I mean in those cases where you see for me,
and it happens a lot around the NFL, when you
see a lot of these two man routes right to me.
If those two routes are taken away, where else do
you have to distribute the ball?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And once again, you got to give Seattle defensive guys
on the second.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
And third level a lot of credit because they were
not jumping on those influence routes where you put the
check down right in front of him. Those guys were
well disciplined, well coached. For the first game of the season,
we'll see how the kind of translates for them moving forward.
But when you have guys getting to their spot, this
is why it is so important if you're playing Zoe
(22:10):
for your guys to know where the spot drops are,
get to your landmarks. Survey the field did, collect data
and draw your eyes back to the quarterback. Seattle did
that well, and that put both Nick's in a tough situation.
What I'd like to see him do in that situation,
understanding that you have three defenders around your one guy,
(22:30):
throw it out a.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Bounce and just eat it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
To me, the play design was a large part of
the problem. Again, then the checkdown guy wasn't reading really
a checkdown guy. He was designed to take that flat
defender to the wall, right, He was designed to take
him out of the play since you just.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Had a clear view of the crosses that you're staring
down the whole time.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
But everybody figured it out right, and it even added
Argoletto on the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Like well, he loaded up to throw the ball like
it was.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It was obvious to everybody in the stadium. Incident designed,
to me, was inherently part of the problem. Five six, six,
nine year olds of tech Line guys want to get
all the conversation obviously down here at the Sporty Pickle
here in Centennial, half mile north of four seventy on Peoria.
I had to say the jalapeno popper pizza earlier and
it was delicious.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So if you guys get on out here you want to,
I want to try some of that. Nick has not
delved in on any food yet. We're gonna see if
we can get him to to sample something here.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Probably they got some kind of funnel cake fries that I, uh,
I'm gonna wreck my diet over funnel cake fry. Yeah,
I saw that on the menu. I'm gonna wreck my
diet over that. Later, well, i'll tell.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
You what you order it, and uh, you and I
can split it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You will look at it and be like, I don't
know if I can eat that or not. Just looking
at it might increase my my caloric into too high.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It might, But you know what mount high profit is
here is the prophets here, and his wife is here.
So if you can't take it down yourself, we can might.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I might be able to get him to share. We'll
see we can distribute it. He's like he's look It
feels like the scene from a Saturday Live with.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Me.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, we're having a good time down here.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Come on down.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I think got pickupball courts in the bar. How can
you beat that with a stick?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I gotta love it coming down here to the Sporty
Pickle again. It is half mile north of E four
to seventy right there on Peoria.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Can't can't miss. It's a good time down here.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We did determine that they put the glass up there
not to shield people from the sounds to pick a ball,
but to shield the pickleballers from.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
The sound of my voice. And I think that is
a fantastic business move on the Sporty Pickles. Part five,
six six nine zero is the text line. You guys
want to get down here because we are giving away
about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I think we're giving away some some tickets club level
seats to the home opener against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Cursing here a ka.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You also want to get down here and qualified for
the Javonte Williams autograph jersey the Pats are Tan autograph helmet.
We're just giving stuff away here at KOA. Come get
it and come get qualified for it. Nick, we are
mourning the opening season loss, but I also think that
this is okay in a sense because it gives us
a starting point to build from. Here's what bo Nicks
(24:57):
can do, Here's what he can't do. He did look
a little bit nervous that one. There are things I
think to look at this and say, Okay, we need
to scrap these things, we need to build better on
these things. I think there's tape to look at here
at be hopeful about, even if it was not exactly
what everybody was looking forward to seeing on Sundays.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well, this is going to sound like it's negative, but
this was kind of what I anticipated because playing in
Seattle is very tough, and then being a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Albeit that we watched both Nicks play.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Well and show a similar signs to what we saw
at Oregon in the preseason game, but there's no game
planning at that time, so teams have more an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
To game plan. And you can see, even though you talking.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
About the Rickey quarterback to Seattle defense was facing, there's
a little gamesmanship involved in that as well, because you
play who you have to play. Now to your point,
there were a lot of things to like about the
game on Sunday. Being defensive, yeah, I'm going to go
to the defensive side of the ball, similar to what
we saw last year even when Russ was here. There
(26:05):
were some moments where the defense made great plays putting
the offense.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
In position to score points.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Unfortunately, they didn't get a lot of them and didn't capitalize.
So I do like what I saw from the defense,
and I want to highlight a couple of guys from
one brought up the bad PS two mess up on
DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Exceptional job on his part.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
But when you talk about showing a burst of speed
and being able to impact the quarterback right away, John
deak Cooper was able to do that.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He showed up and.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Zach Allen, I mean talk about a quick first step
getting past the guard to let the quarterback Gino Smith
feel you and showing that he had either step up
or get rid of the ball. Those are things that
I love seeing. And obviously Alex Singleton, being the tackle
on machine that he is, there were a couple of
plays that he missed, one being be Kin the Walker play.
(27:00):
I'm not going to put that all on him, and
I know Alfa Walliams probably driving home. He thinks it's
all on Alex Singleton on that play. You go back
and watch it anytime you warn about you're getting downhill.
Nor Fan came inside. So when Walker bounced, he's making
it a little he's taking that play. If it was
(27:21):
a lead iso, yes, Alex Singleton makes that play. But
the running back Kendick Walker ran towards the sideline.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Making it further for him to go. But Roley monks
if you get him a little outside.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
They corralled Kenneth Walker and they stopped to play. Man
listen across the board. There's some things that you want
to clean up. But I'm excited about what I saw
and I feel is that this game is going to
help the Broncos Bill Kallas moving forward because you you
lose a tough game like this where the Broncos could
have won but they didn't. But then you start looking
(27:55):
at the bright side instead of looking at things from
a negative standpoint. What they do well, are there things
that you can build on. That's how I like to
assess this game.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm hoping that Sean Payton can put aside ego because
it felt like to me that this was sort of
an ego game. I'm gonna get my passer guy passing
the ball rather than doing what should have done and
attacking a defense that invites you to run against it.
If you go back and look at the tape the
last two years for Baltimore, that's how you beat them.
You beat him by running the ball at him because
(28:25):
it is it's a tight mid zone there and if
you go to you just run into that zone until
they pull that high safety down into the box, and
that's when you take your shots. With the passing, it
felt like he wanted to get Bonnicks in a rhythm.
I want to showcase my guy.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This is my thing.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Did Sean Payton get too excited at the prospect of
showcasing his guy?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, I don't think it was.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He wanted to showcase his guy in particular. Here's a
couple of things that were at work. Yeah, you had
a shining new toy and row Nicks and everyone was
talking about him.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And we know what happened last.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Year where there was a lot of chemistry between Sean
Payton and Russell Wilson. So now, yes, do you want
to show what bo Knicks can actually do? And that
what we saw in the preseason he can actually do
in the regular season. Absolutely, but the bigger things for me,
and you tell me what you think as far as
this is concerned, because the Broncos were in effective running
(29:22):
the ball, did Sean Payton abandoned it too quickly?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And when he abandoned it, he's just.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Like, you know what, I'm just going to go full
tilt on just throwing the ball. Just Unfortunately, there was
a couple of drop passes, there were a couple of
passes that were ill advised and throw mahon receivers and
not to mention the two interceptions. So to me, it's
a microcosm of all those things.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
But hopefully there is a learning.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Process going here to say, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well here's where we need to be better from an
execution standpoint from players, but also here's where you need
you could be better from a play called against skiing standpoint.
And once again, here's a great thing about it, Ben,
this is the first game of the season.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
This is not the last game by the season.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And we're going into the offseason right This is the
first game of the season.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
The Broncos are home against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Let's see how they change and adjust against what's gonna
be another tough game against another good defense.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
We'll get a chance to set that up in a
little bit roun mean being coming up seven.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
To thirty five. We come back.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The Tyreek Hill bodycam video is out.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
We're gonna discuss that.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Next guest story was only wants to share this to
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