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the Tyreek Hill incident. We had the bodycam footage. The
Miami Day Police have at leased about one hundred and
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some oddmitutes of the bodycam footage, including the initial pullover.
Uh and and then you know the incident that happened
as well as Kalais Campbell tried to de escalate the
situation getting put in handcuffs as well.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I will say that there are no winners in this thing.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think Tyreek Kill was a little bit belligerent, but
certainly did not warrant the level of attention that it
felt like the second over zealous police officer there afforded him,
putting him in coffs knee on the back and some
of the the language that was exchanged. I I didn't
feel like that was warranted. But law enforcement, I think
I got a bunch of lawyers in my in my
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Twitter mentions now arguing over.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
This being a civil rights case and all that kind
of stuff. What did you what was your initial impressions? Uh,
you know of the uh of the.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Bodycam footage and you have some real life experience to
relate to that.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, it was kind of upsetting because once again, this
happened right outside of the stadium, and as a player,
you're trying to get your mind ready to go and
play a game and then something like this happens. But
then it's not just Tyreek Hill who was impacted by it,
but it was Tyreek Hill's teammates who stopped by and
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saw something happening.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And for me, the first thing I was.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thinking about what happens if it's not Tyreek kidd that
no one's around, and this is late night, and I've
been in a situation like this where at the moment's notice,
things can escalate pretty fast, as we saw that they
did in the video, and it looked like, Okay, I
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want to say a misunderstanding because here's what I know
from a traffic style, and it's crazy that I'm going
to have to explain this too and actually have I
actually have to say this, But I have an African
American son and I have to teach him how to
survive a routine traffic stops.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I mean, look like I'm not trying to I'm trying it,
but the rules are different. I saw I experienced it
firsthand down there in Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I told you about that story. I think I told
you off air.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, but you know.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I was in the backseat of Cadillac Escalators. A group
of us said, we're roughing high school football. I was
the only white guy on the crew.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
We came back.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We were pulling through this town in Arkansas. If we
weren't doing anything wrong, we pulled this over and they
were the postal.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The officers were getting.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Ready to be and then they saw me, and all
of a sudden, the demeanor changed, and I was like,
I would I don't know that I would have ever,
not that I wouldn't have believed it, but having experienced
watched it about to happen, I was like, oh, now
I get it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, until you experience, or you you are close to
someone who is giving you detailed information as far as
uh the situation like that unfolds, sometimes you you may
not believe it even if you see it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
We've seen a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Of situations in traffic stops video recorded, but it still
was like well, no, no, that guy did something wrong
to escalate. So for me, the idea is for both
tyreek Hill and the officer to de escalate the situation.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And here's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Usually when I get pulled over, my hands are on
the steercop, so once the officer gets to the window,
my window is sometimes rolled down or roll down enough
to give him what he needs, and he's going to
ask you for license and registrations. I've been in situations
where officers wrought license, license and registration and when you're asking, hey,
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why did you pull me over?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They don't want to hear that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They just want you to comply with what the instructions
that they're giving to you. And this is where I
feel as though with the police. We've heard a lot
about the felling and police, which I told you aim against.
It's about retraining our police to think at people they
pull over differently. It's about de escalating instead of escalating.
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And what we saw was the police officer asking tyreek
Hill to roll down his window. And there is no
law that states that you have to roll your window
all the way down. But when he tells you to
roll your window down, he wants you to do it
when he tells you and how he tells you, and
then you saw the one officer was just like, well, don't.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Make me break the window.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And then he pulled Tarrek out and they put him
on the asphalt.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I can tell you it's still Miami.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That asphalt is hot at ten am, and for me,
it was embarrassing all around. And I hope that they
find a way to get past it. But this is
a situation, Ben, I've been into in all too frequently.
Really quickly. We're coming back from a road game. It's
about midnight. It's in October, so there's snow.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
On the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Where were you were you playing for playing on Denver Buncot.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'm pulling out of.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
The facility and there's a cop sitting at the light.
I'm not paying attention until I go through the light
and he pulls me over and I'm asking him as
he's asking for license and registration, I'm asking him, why
are you pulling me over?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
He doesn't want to answer that. He just wants me
to comply and.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Get him license and registration, and just so happens. Steven Alexander,
who played tight end for US at the time, he
pulls by in the truck, rolls down his window and
he says, Nick, are you okay?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't even know why I'm stopped.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So he offered to sit there while we go through
the particulars in the process.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And this is before cell phone cameras, yes, before.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Cell phone cameras, and the guy just told him no,
move along.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
He was like, no, I'm gonna stand right here because
there's no traffic. Is twelve thirty at night.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I'm just gonna pull over and I'm gonna sit here
and act as a witness. And I'm glad that he did,
because in that moment it de escalated the situation. I
gave the guy my driver's license, he ran my tag,
gave him back and told me I can go.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's he ever tell you why he pulled you over. No,
I believe they required to do that. We can get
more into that. We've got plenty of people that we've
got profit here and knows the law and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
We can ask him.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You never told me to break, But that's that's It's
fascinating to me that ecotomies that can occur between oh,
this dessert looks delicious. Look at this this chiefe cake.
I'm just gonna blow the diet completely out of the water.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Here. Should wreck the temple later. It's ridiculous, I think.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Uh, you know, as we look at this, I I
do believe Tyreek Hill could have been certainly better about,
you know, the situation.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I would agree.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But and and to be honest with you, the first
officer I didn't really have a problem with.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He seemed to be following.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It is second over zealous, second guy who shows.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Up and you're like, wait, what is this? You know
what doing here?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And in these guys, and I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I've seen it in situations because I a lot of
friends back in Arkaneslas, the police officers. I've seen de
escalation and and and the roe that you use in uh,
you know, in these situations. When I was in the military,
you know, there were times where the kids would be
throwing rocks at us, and you'd have guys that were
I'm used the word over zealous here, but I think
everybody knows what I mean. There were guys who would
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say that that you know, we'd had to have strict
rules of engagement about that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Because there were guys that were.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
There were privates who were I'm gonna say trigger happy
that we're looking at a fire back at people throwing
rocks at you, and I'm like, bro, you wearing body armor.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's kids throwing rocks.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We bring their country. They want us to go like,
just just let them throw the rocks, hitch and move on. Right,
But there are people that aren't wired. It's the same thing.
I've seen elements of that philosophically at times with over
zealous lawenforces. I think by and large most people are
law enforcement are trying to do the right thing, absolutely
my experience, but there are.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Bad apples out there.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You said, this, this lunatic that you see on the thing,
It's just like the.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
One officer had it, he had it under control.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know, tyreek Hill was being tyreek Hill, you know,
which to his detrimitte shouldn't have been. But this second
officer comes along and escalates the situation.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He doesn't take the air out of the balloon.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And that's the problem, right, And also when Tyreek Hill
teammates pull up and doing the right.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Thing, trying to show.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Colais Campbell, Walter Payton Mann of the Year kalaisk are
the lead.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Nice guys, right, But what he was trying to do,
what Stephen Alexander did for you.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He was trying to be a witness exactly. And sometimes
you need that.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But in those situations, some officers are saying, listen.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm giving you instructions.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I want you to do what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
If I tell you to move on and back up,
that's what I want you to do. But once again,
this is America, the first of them. It gives us
the right of free expression, free assembly, free religion, free speech.
But it's just like, look, man, you don't own this
space of asphalt right here. Now. If you tell me
to back up, I will remove. I would get back,
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but don't you have to talk to me in a
certain way. And I think sometimes in those situations this
is why they escalate, because there's a level of disrespect
that takes place, a.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Combination of that and I think fear in some of
these instances. I can't relate specifically to law enforcement aspect,
but in the military aspect, when you see a crowd
of people start to gather around you all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You're like, wait a minute, I'm out numbered.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You know this is potentially a hostile situation, So I
can understand the officer wanting Calais to back up. I
mean Clissen, huge human being. Yeah, but if you don't
know who he is.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, But Khalais wasn't doing anything as far as if I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Moving, is all right and gesture or trying to be aggressive.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But if I'm the officer and I'm worried about that,
when I says, hey, you step back ten feet for
my safety, keep videoing, It's fine. I got a body
cam on, and I appreciate you as a citizen making that.
Just back up ten feet for my safety so I
can educate this situation, which that's how I would hit Well.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
The other thing that happens sometimes, and we're seeing a
lot play out now because unlike my situation, there are
not a lot of camera phones, but now more people
have camera phones and they are filming officers and actions,
so they.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Could document it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And someone telling you inside your own vehicle turn your
phone off and.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Put it down and stop filming it, and it's like, wait.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
A minute, No, you do have on a body cam, right,
So if your body cam is on, my camera should
be on at the same time. And what I like
in it too is somebody say that they're not the same.
But in this respect, as far as selling someone not
to film a particular situation, it's almost like like censorship.
Like you've been told to Salaz your voice and you
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have no voice because an officer has more authority than you.
And I'm like, no, I'm an American and more than poorly,
I'm a grown ass man.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So you don't talk to me like I'm your two
year old child.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, Nick, and I have a lot of T shirts
coming out soon, grown ass men, if you guys want
to stay tuned for those in the stores.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But I'm with you on that though.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But I think accountability is a good thing and having
another camera going is not.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
There's not a downside to that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Now, I understand again the officer wanted you to comply
and handle these other things instead of focusing on doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I can relate to that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I can understand that conceptually, But at the same time,
you got to count for that. Don't escalate the situation
by saying put your camera away again, all right, put
your camera up on.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The dashboard, keep your hands on the steering wheel right there.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That we we're all the same thing. Let me run
this stuff, We'll come back. You know, there are ways
to do that, and they've got to have better training
to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
We got that training when I was in the army.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I can't imagine people who have to deal with people
like that on a day to day basis in law
enforcement not having that kind of training.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well. See, that's why I feel as though any kind
of concept of the front on police is doesn't make
sense to me, because we need officers to serve and protect,
but it's about teaching them how to fundamentally interact with
people in routine traffic stops, right, because no one wants
to be pulled over, especially man, when you you pulled
over and you're like, well, what did I do wrong?
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And you're not getting any answers back?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right, you know, I get feedback. You're already nervous you
pulled over. People get nervous when they get pulled over.
He be nervous when the police cops behind him not
pulling it over.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But right, has this ever happened to you?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
To all of a sudden straight hands at ten and two.
I'm looking back at.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The way already on doubling up the belt like there's
sense in comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And here's the other thing that people do.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I've been into cars with people either I'm driving, they're driving.
If they see a cop for some reason, they turned
down the volume on their music.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, you can hear that here.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The fact that you're listening to a Hanson up there
in the front.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
You don't care someone back there.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Where are you to go? Yeah, it's it's it is.
It's a stressful situation.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And I think that there needs to be that we
need to find a way to better train law enforcement
to be a will just handle this, take the air
out of the.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Balloon man like you do. You don't have to have
a power trip there at the point of.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
One of these situations happening, even if the guy's being belligerent,
you don't have to have a power trip at that point.
There's a way to get that point across that you
can do it incrementally. There's value in a proportional response.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, we see to me that that's two fold. And
you said the magic word is accountability. His accountability on
the officer and the person being pulled over. If you
are not riding dirty, right, meaning you doing something illegal, Hey, man,
just pull over, put your hands on the steering wheel
and ask the officer, Hey, you know, listen, why.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Are you pulling me over now?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Some people go yes, sir, No, sir, I don't do
all that. My questions are real specific, why are you
pulling me over now? Also, I am kind of showing
through storytelling what I'm about to do. I'm about to
move my right hand and go into the grub compartment, right,
and you have to do it really slow because I
have officers in my family and the idea every officer
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is trying to survive the end of watch. So don't
do anything to make him jumpy, because if you do,
then you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And thats the n the escalation is on you.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's pulled over.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So that's that's that's the thing there.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, Tyreek was definitely being belligerent, but at the same time,
you don't deserve that, like you don't deserve to be
treated in that. In that manner, even if you are
being belligerent, the law enforcement officer has to be the
bigger person. You have to be authority figure right and
taken upon themselves. The first officer did that it's a
second officer who I believe is going to end up
costing the City of Miami some tax payer money, going
back to Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Why is it always the second officer, Because when you
see someone get.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Pulled over, he's the same thing on the field though
it's the.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Guy piling on, it's the guy jumping on the pile.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Then man and the referees at football, they don't get
the first guy with the push.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
They always get the second, second guy.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't say it's the second guy, so it's the
same thing he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Don't be the second guy. We don't be the second
guy in real life. Don't be the second guy out
there on the Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Better yet, don't be that guy period? How right?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That fair?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Don't be that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But we'll call him the second guy.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We're gonna call that guy the second guy, just to
call it that, just to put a term on it.
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It's probably been potentially gonna join us here in just
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Speaker 2 (16:22):
What we saw this weekend in in Denver sports.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I thought both games went more or less in terms
of outcome where I suspected they would go. I didn't
expect what felt like the domination across the across the
board that we did.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This this weekend. I mean, I didn't expect Colorado.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
To necessarily put up a big fight against Nebraska, but
I didn't expect it to look as bad as I
think that it did. I have some questions about the Buffs, too,
because the national narrative can used to.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Spiral on coach Prime and what he's doing there.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Obviously, there are questions about whether he's taking this job seriously,
whether he even wants to win. This is just a
showcase for chadur and Travis Hunter. And you know, I
find it more and more difficult to push back against
some of that stuff at times. There was another thing
out there today. Somebody put out some article which which
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wasn't exactly true, or at least not true in the
way they put it out, that the band isn't even
allowed to play the Colorado fight song after touchdowns they gotta.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Play Shador song. That's not true.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
They do play a snippet after the touchdown, but then
they launch into the fight song after the extra point, so.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That was not true contextually.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I mean, it's just it always it feels like there's
always something right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You ever had that friend where it's always something, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
My mom usually told me not to hang out with
that kid down the street, but everybody has that friend
and it was always something.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Sort of feels like that with Colorado right now, whether
it's warranted, whether it's not, it sort of feels like
it's always something, and it's getting to the point where
it becomes onerous in a way to sit there and
try to continue to defend it, especially when you get
the breaks.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Beat off you by Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well, I mean losing the game against Nebraska a sai.
I mean, we've heard the term before, living rent free
in someone's head. I know you have your that's something
that you've said as it pertains to certain individuals, maters, haters, fans,
and other media members. But that is kind of the
way where CU is right now. Even though they were
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four and eight last year now on one in one
on the season. Not a great showing against Nebraska on
the road. But they are living rent free in the
heads of so many different people, a lot of individuals
in this media market, some of which, wildly enough, they
actually attended See You, right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
And they're individuals who know White.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Coach Prime despises him because maybe they feel as though
he's taking their institutional higher learning.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
An entirely different direction.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But I've gone to those games up at Boulder and
folsom Field, and I hear the fights all now. Sometimes
what happens is it's played after the field goal extra point, right.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
So I didn't go.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
To See You, But I don't have an issue with that,
And it doesn't seem as though, Ben it is something
egregious where it's done purposely to try to strip away
the teams, a tradition that they've had, you know, since
the inception of Colorado Buffaloes.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
And it fights on.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't see it that way.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But talking about the game itself, for me, the same
you know, issues that they had last year on the
offensive line, and this was supposed to be the.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Year where Coach Prime went into the portal and.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
He got some veteran guys, some young guys on the
offensive line, but it was the offensive line once again
was a tail of the tape. And once again, just
like the Broncos game, there are some great things that
you can pull away if you're coach Prime.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And if you're a senior Boff fan.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Because Nebraska was kind of helped in that game, right
you look at the fact of the defense giving up
up yards on the ground, were then shudor throwing that
ill advis the interception was proval. It's sort of like
you know the boat Nick's interception in Seattle, but here.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It is a great thing about it. What I love
the corner.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Huskers went into halftime leading up by twenty eight points
the game.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
After the sign the final whistle and the final.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Time kick clicked off the clock, guess what they still
had twenty.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Eight points they did. I will say part of that
I talked to Sin. I think most people know that relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I talk to some people in the Nebraska staff on Sunday,
and they turtled at halftime like they went hyper hyper conservatives.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So there's no way we can lose this thing. We'll
just string out the clock and then go from there.
And they did. I think, you know, my concern with
doing it that early in a.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Game, especially college football at the clock, is that you
know that that's the most But the defense could take
some pride in the.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Fact that they did shut it down in the second half.
They did seven or those points weren't on them.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It was the pick six, you know, so you think
about the defense, it really only gave up twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's not bad, that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, if your shoulder Sanders and you're looking to
be drafted into the NFL, you're looking for your the
next thing, it feels like maybe you're concentrating on things
outside of football in a stage that it's too early
for you to do that, because shouldn't you be putting
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all your eggs in your basket of getting to that spot?
Is his situation unique simply because he is financially independent
thanks to his father and the fact that he's one
of the highest NIL guys out there is so so
maybe he feels like he doesn't have have to get
there in order to do those You know, you understand
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I mean, I get what you're saying, Ben, And yes,
there's a significant amount of ni o money that's coming in,
but I don't want to say that that's kind of
the the cause of what some are criticizing your door for.
After the Nebraska game, we all knew that this was
the poorest offensive line that see you had and trying
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to rebuild it in two years. That's not going to
help because once again you have a couple of guys
who are playing together for the first time. And granted,
college football is a little different than it is from
the pro game.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
The pro game has build up games.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
There's kind of a kind of a in a squad
scrimmage because you bring in other teams their preseason games.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You don't get that in college football.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Now, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
To toss that out there as excuse for how poorly
the offensive line play. They need to play better because
they were giving up quick interior pocket push.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
And I don't care who you.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Are as a quarterback, that is going to be tough down.
The same problem I have I had last year I
have this year because I kept scratching my hand and
I was like, you know what I should text being
right now, But I know what he's gonna say, so
I don't need.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
To because I was wondering.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was like, listen, if your offensive line is struggling
on the edge and between the interior, why not get
your quarterback out on the edge. But there was another
thing that drove me crazy. It happened in the game
against the Bisons in the first game, but happened to
get in Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It is fourth and one.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Your quarterback is in the shotgun and back and offset.
What are we doing, Ben, at least put your quarterback
under center. If you got put him a shotgun. At
least russ some kind of sprint out. I mean, these
are some of the things I don't understand about what's
going on in Boulder and the play.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Calling and design.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, and I mean I was skeptical of the hire
of Pat Shermer. They's shown nothing to dissuade me from
that skepticism so far. The offense certainly has not been
the innovative in any way.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's basically just.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Been feed Travis Hunter and hope that works. And you know,
there's not been a commitment to the ground game, which
was the problem that got away from last year. I
didn't like and and maybe I misread this, maybe I
you know, maybe I'm missing some context.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But it felt like that Shador was.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Throwing the offensive line under the bus and the post
and the postgame presser. You know, did you see those
comments where he's like, well did Dylan Rayala.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Didn't get touched?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, and you leave he think with two minutes
left in the game heading to the tunnel, like wait
a minute.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
To his credit, he seemed like he got a little
nicked up when he was trying to run, like one
of the the brask Of defenders kind of gave him
a forearm in the head. So that probably something that
set him down. But let's be totally honest, right, and
because sometimes the truth hurt in his heart for some people,
accept it. I didn't hear the comments that should go
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may but the fact that you're saying that he mentioned
something about the opposing quarterback not getting touched, he wasn't lying.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Did he tell a lie?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I just don't feel like that's the I don't think
you put your.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Offensive line on blast like that. I just think you know, well.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
They played it.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You just dismissed that question. How do you hold them accountable?
Then you do that have behind closed doors?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, you know what I played for a guy by
the name of Bill Parcels, and he didn't care. He's
putting you on blast because he wants you with with
Bill had been.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Okay, well you putting the offensive line on blast.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Well, I mean, I've been in this situation before, dealing
with the New York media and you know Paul Hackett,
and they think you hack Your dad was the offensive
coordinator and I was as card blanche.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Look what do you think about the team?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I say, Look, we didn't play well on offense, defense
or specialtys we did. We didn't move the ball well
on offense, we didn't block well. And now, in the
traditional sense of it, these are things that you're not
supposed to say.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But at that time, of course, these are honest things.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Well, and sometimes you may say things to light a
fire under your teammate. And once again, man, at some
point you get away from all these coolba yond moments.
Sometimes you got to tell how it is and if
you don't like it, well go out there damn.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And change it.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Fair? Fair? I'm with that. I It's just like I said.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
There's there's a hyper scrutiny that comes with because of
the attention that that that prime is about for the program.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There's there's a there's a scrutiny that's invited.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And when you compound that with the leaving at the
two minute warning thing like that was, I was like,
what are you doing, dude? You're going to the You're
going to the locker room with two minutes left? Like
you just you just believe it.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
See, I don't look at it that way because how
many times that we've.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Seen guys in games who might be nicked up and
they're knowing is okay, Well, chances are they're not coming
back in the game, so maybe they go to the
locker room and have time to get.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
A jumpstart or whatever medical treatment that they have.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
But like you said, because they become these polarides and figures,
anything that they do could be looked at it and said,
you know what, that's not right, that's not what you
do in college football. And maybe too much attention to
being paid. So once again say it's part for the course.
When you when you get to that particular point, everyone's.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Gunning for you.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know, sometimes you'll not have these conversations about things
that have said to you. Be as social media right,
and we can't express all those particular things, but it's
kind of the same thing when you get to a
certain place. As my mom would say, the debt's gonna
come for you, right, the debt's gonna come from me.
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So people are always going to try to kind of
poke and product who you are and what you do.
And once again this either you are going to stand
your ground and just keep moving forward, or you're gonna
turn and kind of have it back and forth with
those people.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
And then sometimes you do have your back and forwards.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
But you know what I mean where sometimes you go,
you know what, I'm gonna just pump the brakes on
this conversation because I don't need to add any validity
to what someone else is trying to say about me negatively.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
By the way, romy being's actually gonna join us at
the top of the hour at eight o'clock, so you
want to stay tuned for that. We've got to obviously
don get those listpayers of tickets to give away. We'll
be doing that here where it's forty Pickle Instantennial, half
mile northeast four seventy OPR. I yeah, I think, like
what I'm trying to get out here is there's a
combination of things is there is a hyper scrutiny on
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that program and the people in it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yes, some of that was invited.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Some of that is because of people's attitudes towards anybody
being brash and in their.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Face right, right.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
So my problem here is not necessarily a direct problem
with any of it. It is a tangential problem that is, Hey, look,
you guys know you invited the scrutiny, like you invited this,
so you're going to get that pushback when you do
things like this. You have to you got to be
cognizant of some of these small things that are going
to get blown up into big things because of that
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invited scrutiny. It's a it's a double sided sort it is.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's similar to, uh, what Nebraska did to celebrate their
victory oversee you. I don't know if you see the video,
but there's a video of the guys in.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
The locker room.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I believe they're actually playing a song by Shador himself,
kind of trolling and mocking him.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Right. But once again, you know, it's part for the
course when when you are being glorified.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And once again we're not talking about you like you are.
Kirby smart and the Georgia Bulldogs. This is gonna come
along with it, so at some time you just kind
of hunger.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Now, you take the criticism, you just keep moving.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Forward, I think.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And it's something I had to learn with social media,
you know, like when you invite attention, you're gonna get it,
go get it, you know, all of that was one
of the things I had to learn was how to
cope with that because I just never dealt with it.
I've never you know, I've never dealt with just attention
on that level. And that's why I tell people now,
like social media quits being fun when you get around
ten thousand followers or something, because it's just the amount
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of people at that point to.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Start trolling and hating and all that kind of stuff,
and it's just you.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You can't keep up with the volume, and they live
to do it to you. They don't care, they don't
mean what they're saying. In a lot of cases, they're
just trying to get a reaction out of you and
get attention to themselves.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well I say this, man, I say lean into it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But like trying to do that more than these things.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Sometimes I even succeed.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yes, yes, but the idea is to kind of lean
into it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Like I mean, I've had individuals say things to me
and troll me, but the idea is that they feel
as though it's going to set off some kind of
flame in me to make me really come back at
them in a negative way to keep it going. Now
they can retweet like, oh, but when I got new
Ferd to say, no, you know what, I'm gonna hit
(30:33):
you with some kindness and I'm gonna you might be
lucky because i might throw a Bible scripture at you
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Get into that exchange because my whole idea, Man, I'm
not willing to give someone else that much control and
the power over me.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
New idea for a photo shoot, we do pulp fiction.
I'll do John Travolta, you could do Sam Jackson. You'd
be like, and you know my name is love.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Just right. We were supposed to do that before.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yes, but we go there for Halloween this year.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'll get because I already got somebody working on the
Mel Gibson wig for the whole thing. We'll we'll get
the pulp fiction shoot. Going to the question is who's
Grant gonna be in in pulplic. You can see the
wolf is easy Winston Wolf.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know, Man, he might be.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I don't think he can be butch like he's not.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Grant's got a full head of hair. He can't be bold.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, I mean he doesn't necessarily have to embrace everything
about the character.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right, And he's not fing Raiams.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
No, No, he's no, he's not. So I don't know.
We got to think about it. We might have just
pulled Grant into the conversation and.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Ask him, uh, if we were to do that with character,
what would he be?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
So?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, Grant, have you seen pulp fiction?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Oh hundreds of times?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, which character do you most empathize with?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I think I'm more of a Samahayak. What do you
guys think? Isn't that the woman?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
No, you're talking about pulpit you're talking about you talk
about Uma Thurman.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Now hold on, that's when I met.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I tossed that one.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Up, and he just missed the lu because because he
had me second guessing myself.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
That was a minute.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's part like a million times report is so much
she's in from Dustill Dawn. But yeah, Tarantino, but maybe
Grants Tarantino's character.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
He's calling us both dorks. Baby, That's that's what it is.
He said us up for a failure.
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here and do that. The video has come out on
the Tyreek Hill incident. We had the bodycam footage. The
Miami Day Police have at leased about one hundred and
(01:10):
some oddmitutes of the bodycam footage, including the initial pullover.
Uh and and then you know the incident that happened
as well as Kalais Campbell tried to de escalate the
situation getting put in handcuffs as well.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I will say that there are no winners in this thing.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think Tyreek Kill was a little bit belligerent, but
certainly did not warrant the level of attention that it
felt like the second over zealous police officer there afforded him,
putting him in coffs knee on the back and some
of the the language that was exchanged. I I didn't
feel like that was warranted. But law enforcement, I think
I got a bunch of lawyers in my in my
(01:48):
Twitter mentions now arguing over.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
This being a civil rights case and all that kind
of stuff. What did you what was your initial impressions? Uh,
you know of the uh of the.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Bodycam footage and you have some real life experience to
relate to that.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, it was kind of upsetting because once again, this
happened right outside of the stadium, and as a player,
you're trying to get your mind ready to go and
play a game and then something like this happens. But
then it's not just Tyreek Hill who was impacted by it,
but it was Tyreek Hill's teammates who stopped by and
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saw something happening.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And for me, the first thing I was.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thinking about what happens if it's not Tyreek kidd that
no one's around, and this is late night, and I've
been in a situation like this where at the moment's notice,
things can escalate pretty fast, as we saw that they
did in the video, and it looked like, Okay, I
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want to say a misunderstanding because here's what I know
from a traffic style, and it's crazy that I'm going
to have to explain this too and actually have I
actually have to say this, But I have an African
American son and I have to teach him how to
survive a routine traffic stops.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I mean, look like I'm not trying to I'm trying it,
but the rules are different. I saw I experienced it
firsthand down there in Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I told you about that story. I think I told
you off air.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, but you know.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I was in the backseat of Cadillac Escalators. A group
of us said, we're roughing high school football. I was
the only white guy on the crew.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
We came back.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We were pulling through this town in Arkansas. If we
weren't doing anything wrong, we pulled this over and they
were the postal.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The officers were getting.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Ready to be and then they saw me, and all
of a sudden, the demeanor changed, and I was like,
I would I don't know that I would have ever,
not that I wouldn't have believed it, but having experienced
watched it about to happen, I was like, oh, now
I get it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, until you experience, or you you are close to
someone who is giving you detailed information as far as
uh the situation like that unfolds, sometimes you you may
not believe it even if you see it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
We've seen a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Of situations in traffic stops video recorded, but it still
was like well, no, no, that guy did something wrong
to escalate. So for me, the idea is for both
tyreek Hill and the officer to de escalate the situation.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And here's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Usually when I get pulled over, my hands are on
the steercop, so once the officer gets to the window,
my window is sometimes rolled down or roll down enough
to give him what he needs, and he's going to
ask you for license and registrations. I've been in situations
where officers wrought license, license and registration and when you're asking, hey,
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why did you pull me over?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They don't want to hear that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They just want you to comply with what the instructions
that they're giving to you. And this is where I
feel as though with the police. We've heard a lot
about the felling and police, which I told you aim against.
It's about retraining our police to think at people they
pull over differently. It's about de escalating instead of escalating.
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And what we saw was the police officer asking tyreek
Hill to roll down his window. And there is no
law that states that you have to roll your window
all the way down. But when he tells you to
roll your window down, he wants you to do it
when he tells you and how he tells you, and
then you saw the one officer was just like, well, don't.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Make me break the window.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And then he pulled Tarrek out and they put him
on the asphalt.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I can tell you it's still Miami.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That asphalt is hot at ten am, and for me,
it was embarrassing all around. And I hope that they
find a way to get past it. But this is
a situation, Ben, I've been into in all too frequently.
Really quickly. We're coming back from a road game. It's
about midnight. It's in October, so there's snow.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
On the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Where were you were you playing for playing on Denver Buncot.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'm pulling out of.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
The facility and there's a cop sitting at the light.
I'm not paying attention until I go through the light
and he pulls me over and I'm asking him as
he's asking for license and registration, I'm asking him, why
are you pulling me over?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
He doesn't want to answer that. He just wants me
to comply and.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Get him license and registration, and just so happens. Steven Alexander,
who played tight end for US at the time, he
pulls by in the truck, rolls down his window and
he says, Nick, are you okay?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't even know why I'm stopped.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So he offered to sit there while we go through
the particulars in the process.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And this is before cell phone cameras, yes, before.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Cell phone cameras, and the guy just told him no,
move along.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
He was like, no, I'm gonna stand right here because
there's no traffic. Is twelve thirty at night.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I'm just gonna pull over and I'm gonna sit here
and act as a witness. And I'm glad that he did,
because in that moment it de escalated the situation. I
gave the guy my driver's license, he ran my tag,
gave him back and told me I can go.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's he ever tell you why he pulled you over. No,
I believe they required to do that. We can get
more into that. We've got plenty of people that we've
got profit here and knows the law and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
We can ask him.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You never told me to break, But that's that's It's
fascinating to me that ecotomies that can occur between oh,
this dessert looks delicious. Look at this this chiefe cake.
I'm just gonna blow the diet completely out of the water.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Here. Should wreck the temple later. It's ridiculous, I think.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Uh, you know, as we look at this, I I
do believe Tyreek Hill could have been certainly better about,
you know, the situation.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I would agree.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But and and to be honest with you, the first
officer I didn't really have a problem with.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He seemed to be following.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It is second over zealous, second guy who shows.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Up and you're like, wait, what is this? You know
what doing here?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And in these guys, and I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I've seen it in situations because I a lot of
friends back in Arkaneslas, the police officers. I've seen de
escalation and and and the roe that you use in uh,
you know, in these situations. When I was in the military,
you know, there were times where the kids would be
throwing rocks at us, and you'd have guys that were
I'm used the word over zealous here, but I think
everybody knows what I mean. There were guys who would
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say that that you know, we'd had to have strict
rules of engagement about that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Because there were guys that were.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
There were privates who were I'm gonna say trigger happy
that we're looking at a fire back at people throwing
rocks at you, and I'm like, bro, you wearing body armor.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's kids throwing rocks.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We bring their country. They want us to go like,
just just let them throw the rocks, hitch and move on. Right,
But there are people that aren't wired. It's the same thing.
I've seen elements of that philosophically at times with over
zealous lawenforces. I think by and large most people are
law enforcement are trying to do the right thing, absolutely
my experience, but there are.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Bad apples out there.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You said, this, this lunatic that you see on the thing,
It's just like the.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
One officer had it, he had it under control.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know, tyreek Hill was being tyreek Hill, you know,
which to his detrimitte shouldn't have been. But this second
officer comes along and escalates the situation.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He doesn't take the air out of the balloon.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And that's the problem, right, And also when Tyreek Hill
teammates pull up and doing the right.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Thing, trying to show.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Colais Campbell, Walter Payton Mann of the Year kalaisk are
the lead.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Nice guys, right, But what he was trying to do,
what Stephen Alexander did for you.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He was trying to be a witness exactly. And sometimes
you need that.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But in those situations, some officers are saying, listen.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm giving you instructions.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I want you to do what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
If I tell you to move on and back up,
that's what I want you to do. But once again,
this is America, the first of them. It gives us
the right of free expression, free assembly, free religion, free speech.
But it's just like, look, man, you don't own this
space of asphalt right here. Now. If you tell me
to back up, I will remove. I would get back,
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but don't you have to talk to me in a
certain way. And I think sometimes in those situations this
is why they escalate, because there's a level of disrespect
that takes place, a.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Combination of that and I think fear in some of
these instances. I can't relate specifically to law enforcement aspect,
but in the military aspect, when you see a crowd
of people start to gather around you all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You're like, wait a minute, I'm out numbered.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You know this is potentially a hostile situation, So I
can understand the officer wanting Calais to back up. I
mean Clissen, huge human being. Yeah, but if you don't
know who he is.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, But Khalais wasn't doing anything as far as if I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Moving, is all right and gesture or trying to be aggressive.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But if I'm the officer and I'm worried about that,
when I says, hey, you step back ten feet for
my safety, keep videoing, It's fine. I got a body
cam on, and I appreciate you as a citizen making that.
Just back up ten feet for my safety so I
can educate this situation, which that's how I would hit Well.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
The other thing that happens sometimes, and we're seeing a
lot play out now because unlike my situation, there are
not a lot of camera phones, but now more people
have camera phones and they are filming officers and actions,
so they.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Could document it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And someone telling you inside your own vehicle turn your
phone off and.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Put it down and stop filming it, and it's like, wait.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
A minute, No, you do have on a body cam, right,
So if your body cam is on, my camera should
be on at the same time. And what I like
in it too is somebody say that they're not the same.
But in this respect, as far as selling someone not
to film a particular situation, it's almost like like censorship.
Like you've been told to Salaz your voice and you
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have no voice because an officer has more authority than you.
And I'm like, no, I'm an American and more than poorly,
I'm a grown ass man.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So you don't talk to me like I'm your two
year old child.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, Nick, and I have a lot of T shirts
coming out soon, grown ass men, if you guys want
to stay tuned for those in the stores.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But I'm with you on that though.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But I think accountability is a good thing and having
another camera going is not.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
There's not a downside to that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Now, I understand again the officer wanted you to comply
and handle these other things instead of focusing on doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I can relate to that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I can understand that conceptually, But at the same time,
you got to count for that. Don't escalate the situation
by saying put your camera away again, all right, put
your camera up on.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The dashboard, keep your hands on the steering wheel right there.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That we we're all the same thing. Let me run
this stuff, We'll come back. You know, there are ways
to do that, and they've got to have better training
to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
We got that training when I was in the army.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I can't imagine people who have to deal with people
like that on a day to day basis in law
enforcement not having that kind of training.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well. See, that's why I feel as though any kind
of concept of the front on police is doesn't make
sense to me, because we need officers to serve and protect,
but it's about teaching them how to fundamentally interact with
people in routine traffic stops, right, because no one wants
to be pulled over, especially man, when you you pulled
over and you're like, well, what did I do wrong?
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And you're not getting any answers back?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right, you know, I get feedback. You're already nervous you
pulled over. People get nervous when they get pulled over.
He be nervous when the police cops behind him not
pulling it over.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
But right, has this ever happened to you?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
To all of a sudden straight hands at ten and two.
I'm looking back at.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The way already on doubling up the belt like there's
sense in comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And here's the other thing that people do.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I've been into cars with people either I'm driving, they're driving.
If they see a cop for some reason, they turned
down the volume on their music.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, you can hear that here.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The fact that you're listening to a Hanson up there
in the front.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
You don't care someone back there.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Where are you to go? Yeah, it's it's it is.
It's a stressful situation.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And I think that there needs to be that we
need to find a way to better train law enforcement
to be a will just handle this, take the air
out of the.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Balloon man like you do. You don't have to have
a power trip there at the point of.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
One of these situations happening, even if the guy's being belligerent,
you don't have to have a power trip at that point.
There's a way to get that point across that you
can do it incrementally. There's value in a proportional response.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, we see to me that that's two fold. And
you said the magic word is accountability. His accountability on
the officer and the person being pulled over. If you
are not riding dirty, right, meaning you doing something illegal, Hey, man,
just pull over, put your hands on the steering wheel
and ask the officer, Hey, you know, listen, why.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Are you pulling me over now?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Some people go yes, sir, No, sir, I don't do
all that. My questions are real specific, why are you
pulling me over now? Also, I am kind of showing
through storytelling what I'm about to do. I'm about to
move my right hand and go into the grub compartment, right,
and you have to do it really slow because I
have officers in my family and the idea every officer
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is trying to survive the end of watch. So don't
do anything to make him jumpy, because if you do,
then you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And thats the n the escalation is on you.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's pulled over.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So that's that's that's the thing there.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, Tyreek was definitely being belligerent, but at the same time,
you don't deserve that, like you don't deserve to be
treated in that. In that manner, even if you are
being belligerent, the law enforcement officer has to be the
bigger person. You have to be authority figure right and
taken upon themselves. The first officer did that it's a
second officer who I believe is going to end up
costing the City of Miami some tax payer money, going
back to Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Why is it always the second officer, Because when you
see someone get.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Pulled over, he's the same thing on the field though
it's the.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Guy piling on, it's the guy jumping on the pile.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Then man and the referees at football, they don't get
the first guy with the push.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
They always get the second, second guy.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't say it's the second guy, so it's the
same thing he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Don't be the second guy. We don't be the second
guy in real life. Don't be the second guy out
there on the Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Better yet, don't be that guy period? How right?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That fair?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Don't be that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But we'll call him the second guy.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We're gonna call that guy the second guy, just to
call it that, just to put a term on it.
You guys, listen to Broncos Country tonight right here on KOA.
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Speaker 1 (16:08):
Congratulations by the way to our season ticket winner which
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Speaker 2 (16:12):
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's probably been potentially gonna join us here in just
a few talk a little bit about.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
What we saw this weekend in in Denver sports.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I thought both games went more or less in terms
of outcome where I suspected they would go. I didn't
expect what felt like the domination across the across the
board that we did.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This this weekend. I mean, I didn't expect Colorado.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
To necessarily put up a big fight against Nebraska, but
I didn't expect it to look as bad as I
think that it did. I have some questions about the Buffs, too,
because the national narrative can used to.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Spiral on coach Prime and what he's doing there.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Obviously, there are questions about whether he's taking this job seriously,
whether he even wants to win. This is just a
showcase for chadur and Travis Hunter. And you know, I
find it more and more difficult to push back against
some of that stuff at times. There was another thing
out there today. Somebody put out some article which which
(17:25):
wasn't exactly true, or at least not true in the
way they put it out, that the band isn't even
allowed to play the Colorado fight song after touchdowns they gotta.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Play Shador song. That's not true.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
They do play a snippet after the touchdown, but then
they launch into the fight song after the extra point, so.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That was not true contextually.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I mean, it's just it always it feels like there's
always something right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You ever had that friend where it's always something, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
My mom usually told me not to hang out with
that kid down the street, but everybody has that friend
and it was always something.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Sort of feels like that with Colorado right now, whether
it's warranted, whether it's not, it sort of feels like
it's always something, and it's getting to the point where
it becomes onerous in a way to sit there and
try to continue to defend it, especially when you get
the breaks.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Beat off you by Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well, I mean losing the game against Nebraska a sai.
I mean, we've heard the term before, living rent free
in someone's head. I know you have your that's something
that you've said as it pertains to certain individuals, maters, haters, fans,
and other media members. But that is kind of the
way where CU is right now. Even though they were
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four and eight last year now on one in one
on the season. Not a great showing against Nebraska on
the road. But they are living rent free in the
heads of so many different people, a lot of individuals
in this media market, some of which, wildly enough, they
actually attended See You, right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
And they're individuals who know White.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Coach Prime despises him because maybe they feel as though
he's taking their institutional higher learning.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
An entirely different direction.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But I've gone to those games up at Boulder and
folsom Field, and I hear the fights all now. Sometimes
what happens is it's played after the field goal extra point, right.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
So I didn't go.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
To See You, But I don't have an issue with that,
And it doesn't seem as though, Ben it is something
egregious where it's done purposely to try to strip away
the teams, a tradition that they've had, you know, since
the inception of Colorado Buffaloes.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
And it fights on.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't see it that way.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But talking about the game itself, for me, the same
you know, issues that they had last year on the
offensive line, and this was supposed to be the.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Year where Coach Prime went into the portal and.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
He got some veteran guys, some young guys on the
offensive line, but it was the offensive line once again
was a tail of the tape. And once again, just
like the Broncos game, there are some great things that
you can pull away if you're coach Prime.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And if you're a senior Boff fan.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Because Nebraska was kind of helped in that game, right
you look at the fact of the defense giving up
up yards on the ground, were then shudor throwing that
ill advis the interception was proval. It's sort of like
you know the boat Nick's interception in Seattle, but here.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
It is a great thing about it. What I love
the corner.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Huskers went into halftime leading up by twenty eight points
the game.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
After the sign the final whistle and the final.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Time kick clicked off the clock, guess what they still
had twenty.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Eight points they did. I will say part of that
I talked to Sin. I think most people know that relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I talk to some people in the Nebraska staff on Sunday,
and they turtled at halftime like they went hyper hyper conservatives.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So there's no way we can lose this thing. We'll
just string out the clock and then go from there.
And they did. I think, you know, my concern with
doing it that early in a.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Game, especially college football at the clock, is that you
know that that's the most But the defense could take
some pride in the.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Fact that they did shut it down in the second half.
They did seven or those points weren't on them.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It was the pick six, you know, so you think
about the defense, it really only gave up twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's not bad, that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, if your shoulder Sanders and you're looking to
be drafted into the NFL, you're looking for your the
next thing, it feels like maybe you're concentrating on things
outside of football in a stage that it's too early
for you to do that, because shouldn't you be putting
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all your eggs in your basket of getting to that spot?
Is his situation unique simply because he is financially independent
thanks to his father and the fact that he's one
of the highest NIL guys out there is so so
maybe he feels like he doesn't have have to get
there in order to do those You know, you understand
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I mean, I get what you're saying, Ben, And yes,
there's a significant amount of ni o money that's coming in,
but I don't want to say that that's kind of
the the cause of what some are criticizing your door for.
After the Nebraska game, we all knew that this was
the poorest offensive line that see you had and trying
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to rebuild it in two years. That's not going to
help because once again you have a couple of guys
who are playing together for the first time. And granted,
college football is a little different than it is from
the pro game.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
The pro game has build up games.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
There's kind of a kind of a in a squad
scrimmage because you bring in other teams their preseason games.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You don't get that in college football.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Now, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
To toss that out there as excuse for how poorly
the offensive line play. They need to play better because
they were giving up quick interior pocket push.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
And I don't care who you.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Are as a quarterback, that is going to be tough down.
The same problem I have I had last year I
have this year because I kept scratching my hand and
I was like, you know what I should text being
right now, But I know what he's gonna say, so
I don't need.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
To because I was wondering.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was like, listen, if your offensive line is struggling
on the edge and between the interior, why not get
your quarterback out on the edge. But there was another
thing that drove me crazy. It happened in the game
against the Bisons in the first game, but happened to
get in Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It is fourth and one.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Your quarterback is in the shotgun and back and offset.
What are we doing, Ben, at least put your quarterback
under center. If you got put him a shotgun. At
least russ some kind of sprint out. I mean, these
are some of the things I don't understand about what's
going on in Boulder and the play.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Calling and design.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, and I mean I was skeptical of the hire
of Pat Shermer. They's shown nothing to dissuade me from
that skepticism so far. The offense certainly has not been
the innovative in any way.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's basically just.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Been feed Travis Hunter and hope that works. And you know,
there's not been a commitment to the ground game, which
was the problem that got away from last year. I
didn't like and and maybe I misread this, maybe I
you know, maybe I'm missing some context.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But it felt like that Shador was.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Throwing the offensive line under the bus and the post
and the postgame presser. You know, did you see those
comments where he's like, well did Dylan Rayala.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Didn't get touched?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, and you leave he think with two minutes
left in the game heading to the tunnel, like wait
a minute.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
To his credit, he seemed like he got a little
nicked up when he was trying to run, like one
of the the brask Of defenders kind of gave him
a forearm in the head. So that probably something that
set him down. But let's be totally honest, right, and
because sometimes the truth hurt in his heart for some people,
accept it. I didn't hear the comments that should go
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may but the fact that you're saying that he mentioned
something about the opposing quarterback not getting touched, he wasn't lying.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Did he tell a lie?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I just don't feel like that's the I don't think
you put your.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Offensive line on blast like that. I just think you know, well.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
They played it.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You just dismissed that question. How do you hold them accountable?
Then you do that have behind closed doors?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, you know what I played for a guy by
the name of Bill Parcels, and he didn't care. He's
putting you on blast because he wants you with with
Bill had been.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Okay, well you putting the offensive line on blast.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Well, I mean, I've been in this situation before, dealing
with the New York media and you know Paul Hackett,
and they think you hack Your dad was the offensive
coordinator and I was as card blanche.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Look what do you think about the team?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I say, Look, we didn't play well on offense, defense
or specialtys we did. We didn't move the ball well
on offense, we didn't block well. And now, in the
traditional sense of it, these are things that you're not
supposed to say.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But at that time, of course, these are honest things.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Well, and sometimes you may say things to light a
fire under your teammate. And once again, man, at some
point you get away from all these coolba yond moments.
Sometimes you got to tell how it is and if
you don't like it, well go out there damn.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And change it.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Fair? Fair? I'm with that. I It's just like I said.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
There's there's a hyper scrutiny that comes with because of
the attention that that that prime is about for the program.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There's there's a there's a scrutiny that's invited.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And when you compound that with the leaving at the
two minute warning thing like that was, I was like,
what are you doing, dude? You're going to the You're
going to the locker room with two minutes left? Like
you just you just believe it.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
See, I don't look at it that way because how
many times that we've.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Seen guys in games who might be nicked up and
they're knowing is okay, Well, chances are they're not coming
back in the game, so maybe they go to the
locker room and have time to get.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
A jumpstart or whatever medical treatment that they have.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
But like you said, because they become these polarides and figures,
anything that they do could be looked at it and said,
you know what, that's not right, that's not what you
do in college football. And maybe too much attention to
being paid. So once again say it's part for the course.
When you when you get to that particular point, everyone's.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Gunning for you.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know, sometimes you'll not have these conversations about things
that have said to you. Be as social media right,
and we can't express all those particular things, but it's
kind of the same thing when you get to a
certain place. As my mom would say, the debt's gonna
come for you, right, the debt's gonna come from me.
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So people are always going to try to kind of
poke and product who you are and what you do.
And once again this either you are going to stand
your ground and just keep moving forward, or you're gonna
turn and kind of have it back and forth with
those people.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
And then sometimes you do have your back and forwards.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
But you know what I mean where sometimes you go,
you know what, I'm gonna just pump the brakes on
this conversation because I don't need to add any validity
to what someone else is trying to say about me negatively.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
By the way, romy being's actually gonna join us at
the top of the hour at eight o'clock, so you
want to stay tuned for that. We've got to obviously
don get those listpayers of tickets to give away. We'll
be doing that here where it's forty Pickle Instantennial, half
mile northeast four seventy OPR. I yeah, I think, like
what I'm trying to get out here is there's a
combination of things is there is a hyper scrutiny on
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that program and the people in it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yes, some of that was invited.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Some of that is because of people's attitudes towards anybody
being brash and in their.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Face right, right.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
So my problem here is not necessarily a direct problem
with any of it. It is a tangential problem that is, Hey, look,
you guys know you invited the scrutiny, like you invited this,
so you're going to get that pushback when you do
things like this. You have to you got to be
cognizant of some of these small things that are going
to get blown up into big things because of that
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invited scrutiny. It's a it's a double sided sort it is.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's similar to, uh, what Nebraska did to celebrate their
victory oversee you. I don't know if you see the video,
but there's a video of the guys in.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
The locker room.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I believe they're actually playing a song by Shador himself,
kind of trolling and mocking him.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Right. But once again, you know, it's part for the
course when when you are being glorified.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And once again we're not talking about you like you are.
Kirby smart and the Georgia Bulldogs. This is gonna come
along with it, so at some time you just kind
of hunger.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Now, you take the criticism, you just keep moving.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Forward, I think.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And it's something I had to learn with social media,
you know, like when you invite attention, you're gonna get it,
go get it, you know, all of that was one
of the things I had to learn was how to
cope with that because I just never dealt with it.
I've never you know, I've never dealt with just attention
on that level. And that's why I tell people now,
like social media quits being fun when you get around
ten thousand followers or something, because it's just the amount
(29:46):
of people at that point to.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Start trolling and hating and all that kind of stuff,
and it's just you.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You can't keep up with the volume, and they live
to do it to you. They don't care, they don't
mean what they're saying. In a lot of cases, they're
just trying to get a reaction out of you and
get attention to themselves.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well I say this, man, I say lean into it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But like trying to do that more than these things.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Sometimes I even succeed.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yes, yes, but the idea is to kind of lean
into it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Like I mean, I've had individuals say things to me
and troll me, but the idea is that they feel
as though it's going to set off some kind of
flame in me to make me really come back at
them in a negative way to keep it going. Now
they can retweet like, oh, but when I got new
Ferd to say, no, you know what, I'm gonna hit
(30:33):
you with some kindness and I'm gonna you might be
lucky because i might throw a Bible scripture at you
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Get into that exchange because my whole idea, Man, I'm
not willing to give someone else that much control and
the power over me.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
New idea for a photo shoot, we do pulp fiction.
I'll do John Travolta, you could do Sam Jackson. You'd
be like, and you know my name is love.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Just right. We were supposed to do that before.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yes, but we go there for Halloween this year.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'll get because I already got somebody working on the
Mel Gibson wig for the whole thing. We'll we'll get
the pulp fiction shoot. Going to the question is who's
Grant gonna be in in pulplic. You can see the
wolf is easy Winston Wolf.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know, Man, he might be.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I don't think he can be butch like he's not.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Grant's got a full head of hair. He can't be bold.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, I mean he doesn't necessarily have to embrace everything
about the character.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right, And he's not fing Raiams.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
No, No, he's no, he's not. So I don't know.
We got to think about it. We might have just
pulled Grant into the conversation and.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Ask him, uh, if we were to do that with character,
what would he be?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
So?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, Grant, have you seen pulp fiction?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Oh hundreds of times?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, which character do you most empathize with?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I think I'm more of a Samahayak. What do you
guys think? Isn't that the woman?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
No, you're talking about pulpit you're talking about you talk
about Uma Thurman.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Now hold on, that's when I met.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I tossed that one.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Up, and he just missed the lu because because he
had me second guessing myself.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
That was a minute.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's part like a million times report is so much
she's in from Dustill Dawn. But yeah, Tarantino, but maybe
Grants Tarantino's character.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
He's calling us both dorks. Baby, That's that's what it is.
He said us up for a failure.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
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