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September 12, 2024 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right out to the KWA Common Spirital hotline though and
bring on the Pride of Colorado stage former running back
Capri Bibs. Capri, how you doing to see me?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm doing great. How you guys doing.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Doing pretty well? We got a little bit of a
game coming up here this weekend. You may or may
not have heard about. You may not be familiar with
this rivalry. It's interesting to me watching a lot of
videos coming out. You got a lot of guys Horton,
you know, talking a little bit of smack, say, hey,
we should have we should have hearder these guys last year.
Is there a sense of you think there's a sense
of confidence with that CSU team going into this game?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Absolutely, you know. And I was kind of talking about
this the other day with a couple of my buddies.
But just the way the universe kind of plays out,
it's like kind of Colorado State was kind of brought
back to life. Was seeing how Texas did in Michigan
and then them coming back getting to win and now
being able to build from the game last year. I
think the CSU players weren't, you know, as confident as

(00:55):
they were this year, seeing that they really do have
what it takes to you know, beat that team and
also compete, you know, for something that's great, especially with
Tory Horton at the Rains too well.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
J Noville was talking about this matchup earlier on this
week and a couple of things he mentioned as far
as the culture that he's trying to establish up there
at with the Rams, and he mentioned it in this
particular way. He said, he's trying to build a team
that has grit, physicality, and fundamentals. When you watch this
team right after last week, they got the win, but

(01:31):
do you think that they can bring those three characteristics
in this game hosting it at their home stadium?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know, that Ram that rivalry just in the hole.
I don't know if people are familiar with it privy
to coach Prime, you know, but that rhyme is that
rivalry has always been rich, you know, so all the
Colorado people of the state know how rich this rivalry
is and how gritty this game just is. You know.
I don't think it doesn't really matter who the coach is.

(02:03):
You know, it comes down to a certain will the
players and a certain type of pride, you know, because
all their families watching a lot of these kids are
Colorado born and raised, you know, so like this is
this is the biggest game of the year. You know.
He talking about the game used to be played at
sports authority empowerment, you know. So this game has always
always been a real deal, you know, and it's always

(02:25):
brought the best in every last every single player, you know.
So I think that's another thing that you're about to
see again. But I think CSU just has a lot
to bring it to the table with that quarterback, wide receiver,
you know, and in the trenches. And they got a
stable running backs too, you know, so they I think
CSU really has what it takes.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I liked what I saw from him last year.
I like what Norvell's doing up there. It'll be interesting
to see if he continue to build a program. I
like that young quarterback man Nick LSI was he true
freshman last year or cher freshman?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was it was.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
He's playing well above his years as far as that
kind of stuff goes. Want to pivot a little bit,
talk about the you know, the Deber Broncos. I don't
know if you got a chance to watch it Seattle
game last week. It's tough for me watching it because
I'm like, man, they they're not getting a run game
going for this young quarterback. And you being a former
running back, you've been a former Broncos running back. What
did you think of the lack of attention to the

(03:16):
run game and not really running it seemed like with
a purpose.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, you know, you know, just looking back on Sean
Payton's game. You know in the previous years that I've
always watched Sean Payton play, He's always got the running
back involved, you know, So that's another questioning thing. You know, Uh,
they're playing running back by committee, and at some point
you also got to see those running backs almost step
up in a way that demands the ball. You know.

(03:42):
I love a back that's like that, you know, that says, Hey,
every time you give me the ball, it's going to
be something, you know, and it's gonna look like something
the checko reminds me of that from the Chiefs, you know,
like it's just that certain type of attitude you know,
you got to run with. It's that certain type of
swagger you know, comes in as a running back. So
I think Sean Payton is also you know, needs little help,

(04:05):
you know in that running back room. You know, I
think what they have going on now is cool, you know,
but for what they're trying to do, they need a
dynamic running back a Kamara of Reggie Bush and you
know all those Pierre Thomas is like Sean Payton's always had,
He's always had those those running backs hitting on a
different type of on a different type of level.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, Ben and I was talking about earlier in the
show that you know, when you play football, especially at
the running back position, it's all about establishing a rhythm.
And sometimes there is a significant rotation of backs in
because they do have a bevy of backs. How important
is it as a running back to kind of get
yourself established in the game before you kind of subbed

(04:49):
out for someone else.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
And I mean, I'm opportunitist. You know, you can't ask
a guy like me that I'm a practice squad I
got I'm a doggy dog. Every time you hand me
a played I'm gonna eat, you know, Like I'm just
bred different when it comes to that type of thing.
You can't really enforce that on every running back. And
I guess that kind of just goes back to that
keynote that we kind of were talking. We were talking

(05:12):
about earlier. Like, you know, a running back has to
insert himself, like he has to show, you know that
he can come out, catch the ball, run the ball,
do all these things. Because if you start game planning
for these running backs and saying, hey, this is this
is the first and second down guy. All right, this
is only a third down guy. This guy is good

(05:33):
on the stretch, he's not good at like guys are
keying off on that. And guys are way too smart
to have way too much film nowadays to be dealing
with it. Back that is only one dimensional, you know,
Like you have to be a type of running back
that can run in between the tackles and do everything
that is acquired. That's the backs that are having the
most access in the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, and you see, the modern back is a bit
of a different skill set.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
You don't see the guys, I mean, you do see
a few guys that are bigger out there, but you
don't see the Jerome Bettest running back out there anymore.
You got to be a whatever back. You gotta be
able to catch the ball, go between the tackles, take
the stretch, out side, take the toss whatever. As we
look at this Sean Payton, though, has been a guy
who's rotated guys through. Javonte's been sort of the power guy.
You get your leel who's got the wheels to get
the outside and estimate was supposed to be that bowling
ball with knives. How do you adapt to that is?

(06:22):
You know, how do you adapt to a head coach
who kind of has your pigeon hole? How do you
go out there and show them how I can do
it all?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean shoot every time you get in the game,
you know, and sometimes you as a running back, I
noticed just verbatim being in the game, and sometimes the
other guy gets tired or something. Maybe you get in
two three players in a row. You got to make
those players go there, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you gotta be that doggie dog. You got to make
sure you eat. And that's kind of like either running

(06:49):
backs right now. If you say, hey, I'm secure in
the position that I'm in, then be secure, you know,
But then you also going to see a team that's
gonna want to come out and throw the ball for
you two times because security doesn't doesn't live well in
the NFL, you know, And they say that where NFL
stands from not for long. You don't care if you
get paid. You got to you got to attack it

(07:10):
in a certain type of way in order to get
the certain type of response you want out of out
of your play. You know So, I think I've always
done a good job of making my opportunities count, you
know so, I'm just speaking on you know, this personal experience.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Sorry, Well, when you think about what the Broncos is
going to face on Sunday, being the Pittsburgh still is
the way they line the linebackers get downhill and the
way they blitz As a running back, how do you
prepare yourself for or is there a way to prepare
yourself for that level of physicality, especially when that linebackers
coming blitzing through that a gap.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, you know what, a lot of things I've seen
last game too, and like like we talked about with
throwing forty two passes or something like that from a
rookie quarterback. We don't want to get into that thing
where we trying to prove a playing with our quarterback.
I think I think we do still will run the
ball versus team and we get some get some hats
on hats and That's that's first thing. First. You know,
I think the most successful runs you've seen out of

(08:08):
Williams when those linemen get hats on hats and at
least get a piece of him, because he's a dynamic
guy and he can do a lot more then, I
think than what's be an ax of him right now.
And that's what I'll honestly would if I was Sean Payton,
I would challenge that out of thirty three to be
that all round back and be a guy that can
stay in the game and do everything that's called up

(08:29):
on the offense to even give that quarterback a break
so people don't know when he's dropping back to pass
and when it's going to be a run or play action,
you know, and that also goes along with the back
as well, you know, knowing what type of back is
in the game.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
One of the interesting things that I've come across is,
you know, for the last couple of years, that's decade,
decade and a half, it's been a passers league, right,
and everybody's been pivoting toward eleven personnel, getting receivers on
the field and slinging the ball over the yard. But
the pendulum has started to swing back to the other
direction on the efficacy of the running backs. Yeah, everybody
gets lighter and you want to go more power, right.
We're starting to see that play out a little bit

(09:03):
in the league as you look at teams starting to
run the ball a little bit more, they're starting to
get a little heavier on offense and get back in
front of that pendulum. How do you, as a running
back feel about the game pivoting back toward the running
back being more valuable.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's hilarious to me because you know, seeing all the
running back talks being devalued. I want to say a
very unpopular opinion that may get me scolded a little bit,
but I honestly do believe that the running back is
the most difficult position on the football field, especially if
you're talking about a talented running back, not a one
dimensional back. We're talking about the back that you need

(09:39):
to keep in first, second, and third down. We're talking
about a guy that's going to have to block. We're
talking about a guy who's gonna have to catch the
ball and also run the ball, and not just run
the ball, run it very efficiently and be elite. When
you would actually receiver, what to catch the ball at
point a or be good on the other end after
the catch. But no running back would have to be

(09:59):
you know all the things. I mean, like, look, Christian McCaffrey.
You can't possibly tell me that there's a more valuable
player for a football team than Christian McCaffrey. That's what
the power of having a great back is. And I
think seeing the NFL fall away from the la Damian Tomlinson's,
the Marshall Faulks, the Priest Holmes, you know, the Walter

(10:20):
Payton's of the world, Barry Sanders. These guys played every snap.
These guys caught the ball, ran the ball, did everything
under the sun, you know. So, and by them making
backs and accepting backs for being one dimensional is also
they're trying. I think it's more of a point that, yeah,
we don't want to pay these backs. That's more of

(10:42):
just what it is, not how much the running back
is valuable to the game. It's about the market and
knowing that you got to pay a quarterback two hundred
three hundred million dollars right now, and knowing that if
you have a back like Christian McCaffrey, you should probably
be paying him one hundred and seventy million dollars because
a guy like him can change the whole dynamic of

(11:02):
your complete offense.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
We're talking to Capri Bib's, former Broncos running back in CSU. Alum,
I have to ask you about something, and I don't
know if it's a sensitive topic to you, but I'm
gonna ask it anyway. So, and within the Broncos organization
there is a ring of fan and at every college

(11:24):
they have a college Hall of Fame. Now I'm wondering
why is it that Capri Bibbs is not in the
CSU Rams Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Man, Well, uh, it's kind of it's kind of mind
blowing the knee too. But you know, to see the
list of people that were kind of listed on there
and see the names, and to also know that I'm
also only football player in the program that holds every
record in his at his position. You know another player
in that in school history that's on that list hold

(12:03):
every record at their position or even sometimes even a
holder in general. And I'm the loan holder of all
records at my position, touchdowns, yards, yards, Pe Carrie, you
want to have you on a market, but to be
in the Colorado Hall of Fame. It's sweet, but you know,
it kind of doesn't make sense to be in the

(12:23):
Colorado Hall of Fame but not be at my school's
Hall of Fame. But you know, hopefully things work out.
It's always God's speed. I never fred about nothing like that.
I was like, God, handle it. You know. Obviously, I'm human,
so I can see things, you know, I can feel things,
you know, So obviously that's where I would kind of
just key on that. But other than that, you know,

(12:44):
I'm not frustrated at all. You know, I know what
I meant to that program. I know how much that
programs meant to me. Helping me get out of junior college,
go to college, giving me faith to go to college
like Colorado Stace has been huge for me. I know,
I know when Gods at this time, it'll be time.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm talking again with Capri Bibbs, former Colorad of
State running back, was with the Broncos, the Washington football team,
and the Packers, I believe, all three in the NFL.
As we look forward to this rivalry game, getting back
on CUCSUS looking for this rival gig game this weekend.
What what kind of predictions you have for us going
in this game.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Man, you know what, I think it's gonna be a
nail bier. I think it's gonna be a nail buyer.
But I say, I say CSU pulls it out. I say,
CSU pulls it out, you know, and if it's not Neil,
but I say, we go we take it by ten.
Well take it about ten points. I'm gonna go ten points.
That's is how I feel you going out there on
the limb right now.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
With that one.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, I really do. I feel like we take it
by ten, you know, And I think we keep the
train rolling for the for the Sanders, for the Sanders plan.
You know, I feel like, you know, everything that they're
building nowhere is cool and all, but you know, at
some point we got got to get down to the
nitty gritty flash and all that. That's cool. But you know,

(14:03):
over at CSU, I know, we we believe in real,
real integrity, real real grit, you know, real grind. You
know a lot of things that the coach actually talked
about I can actually vouch for, like what's been about
that program with without the coach. You know, people people
that go to CSU have a certain swagger tool. You
can ask Jack Barrett that you know, you know, former

(14:25):
sack leader in the NFL. You know, Michael Gallups, Mashar Higgins.
You know, we go out there and we get money,
you know, so no matter what it is.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, speaking of that, we got a couple of seconds
here remaining with you. But last year, when this game
is played in Boulder, Lil Wayne Kim leading the team out.
So who's going to lead the team out? I mean,
I know you dabbling hip hop? Are you leading the
team out? Rapping coming out of the tunnel? Man?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
You know what? I know? Coach, you know what, he's real,
He's a real He's going to keep it. He's going
to keep it by the book and keep it the
way they do things, you know. And I know the
focus that's been going on over there at CSU. They're
not taking this game lightly. They're not they're not joking
around at all. You know, they're ultra ultra serious. And
they're serious about their season too, you know, And I know,

(15:19):
see you may be serious about their season, but you know, obviously,
you know, being serious, being serious for no other reasons,
you know, when other guys are being serious for life.
And I feel like you got to kind of factor
that in this and at a certain point, you know,
these guys are fighting for Instagram, you know what I'm saying,
these guys fighting for you know, real spots. They're really

(15:41):
trying to be somebody. They're really you know, trying to
put on for their program. You know. I feel like
it's that feel like it's a little Juco behavior going on.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I see you, well, I'm looking forward to this game.
They win by ten plus, Bro, I'm giving you flowers
on Twitter. I'm putting out there. I'm saying you called
it first, and if they if they, if they lose,
I'm also blaming you and saying I placed my best
friends on you, trying to get my money back.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So crazy. You know, we already underdogs coming in and
I get to understand that, but I know we're gonna
do what we gotta do. I know CSU is never
it's never been a thing to where anybody blows anybody out. Yep.
But I really do just feel like CSU is just
on that train right now. Man. I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
We got them in there, yep, we got it, hopefully, hopefully,
hopefully it lands has capri Vis running back Colorado steak
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