11-07-25 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our crack research team is just informedist. At the Miami
Heat went all for fifty three first quarter points against
the Charlotte Hornets. Fifty three first quarter points. I will
allow you to guess how much they lead by at
the half.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Five three. It's seventy two.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
To sixty nine at the half. Nice Charlotte Hornet scored. Yes,
it's starlett Hornets scored scored thirty three in the first
quarter while giving up that fifty three. And then they
scored thirty six in the second quarter while giving up nineteen.
As Miami apparently got all of their scoring out of
the way in the first quarter.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, as a Miami Heat fan, that is disappointing, and
it's been really disappointing because they lack the little of
star power.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
And but look at it this way, as a Miami
Heat fan, you're now getting your first quarter scoring it matched.
You know, the Broncos aren't covering that base for you.
But here come to the Miami Heat to the rescue.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
But here here it is though.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am a four quarter type of God, right, I
won sixty minutes. That's the way that I was coached.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
You just got to find a second quarter team and
a third quarter team. Now you got first match.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Now, I mean, we can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Apparently, the over on the first quarter of eighty five,
which would you would have hit eighty six. Here between
these two, the over of eighty five first quarter points
was it plus ten thousand, So if you had been
one hundred dollars, you would have won ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
See that sounds great.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
After the fact, nobody's making a sports population for that.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
No, and this is one of the reasons that I
don't wager at all. But as we look at quarter
to quarter and we compare this similar outlook for the
Denver Broncos. At the start of season, the Broncos, they
were a team that started fast.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Is it out?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now they their identity because every single week we ask
the same question, what is the team identity?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So now they have been known as being.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
A fourth quarter team, which is great when when you
kind of try to conceptualize it.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh and the fourth quarter team, they're gonna come through.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
But once again, you can't count on that as a
viable solution.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
That can't be well.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Our philosophy for making the playoffs, getting in the playoffs,
hosting a home playoff game and might aad winning a
home playoff game.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Is guess what?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
We are a fourth quarter team? Well what happens is
the team that you're playing, they're a fourth quarter team.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, what hope is not a strategy?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And that's that's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
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update anchor on.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fridays is sensational.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's give joy Jody Jordan's flowers here. He is sensational,
Joey's man and always has the best knacks. Just Sam,
which I think there's some ice cream out there if
you want it. So what were you keeping his ice cream?
I'm not keeping it? Jony brings it.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
What you say, it's outside, Joney's got it? Is it
in a freezer?

Speaker 6 (03:07):
I would assume it would be in the freezer. Well, okay,
you know what say about assumptions. That's what I'm saying.
That's why I'm asking you. Said it's out, You tell
us things. Oh it's outside. I'm like, it's not here
in the studio. Okay, there is ice cream somewhere. It
is not here in the studio. Jody Jordan has a
lived alerted me to its proximity.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Now no sound. Now, yeah, Ben setting me on a question.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I want him to find out where it is so
that I may partake of the ice cream.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I'm just saying, Oh boy, I tell you.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's just how things go right here. Several different text here.
They're kind of interesting. Uh the four one zero, how
about we attack the defense instead of being attacked by
the defense.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
That'd be a start. I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, defenses aren't dictating to us what we're doing
well in a sense when you really think about it.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Then, because last night, like I told you, the simulated pressures,
you know, it's been somewhat of an issue with the
Broncos all season long, and when teams go to that
it's a problem. So now it makes you think, okay,
well when you think about bo is he not reading.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It the right way? Because there was a play where
the Raiders, I'm not they didn't even send pressure.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
It was just kind of like maybe four or five
minutes rush and Dobbins kind of went with the checkdown
right over the center, but it was a defender right
behind him. But to this far right of bow you
saw Evan Ingram who chipped and then he fell.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Off late bow never looked at him.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Bow looked right in front of him to see if
because he was going to throw him to the checkdown.
But then he saw the defender and he pulled off
of it, and by that time he got sacked.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
There's a couple of different plays where Bow doesn't see
it at all.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean, there's a I think everybody's seen it now
as clip of them run a dagger out there with
Troy Franklin run the end cut and yeah, I can't
remember what it's going vertical. Both of them are open
of wide open, and Bo doesn't even look at him,
just hits the running back in the flat.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, So once again here here's the conundrum. The idea
is that, okay, well he took a sack, there was
a guy in the checkdown, but then he took the checkdown,
there was a guy in the dig. Now, I'm not
the type of person that's going to ny picked that
much to go after him, because if you got the
clicker in your hand and you pause at any time,
you're gonna say, well, this receiver was open as long

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as he's making a decision to take the guy who's
gonna pick up some yards, unless unless it's a third
and nine, a third and ten, and you're throwing the
check down.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I don't remember what the down and distant situation on
that was. I was just looking at him, like, here's
guy's running free here, like what are we doing? Is
Bo so wound up so tight as far as getting
the ball out that he's not looking downfield at some
of this open stuff and just trying to get it
to the checks that's a possibility.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
But then when you say, well, he's wound so tight,
because I know you've said before on this program, because
that Bob nikes sometimes.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
In your eyes, can appear to be a little to
engage Jack ready to go. We see it again beginning
of the game.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
He throws balls that are inaccurate.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
But once again I wonder for me, I don't believe
it's just Bo.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Like some national analysts are now trying to tell us
that Sean Paytne is growing impatient with.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Bo, and I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm not in the building band, but I'm basing this
based on my eyes that I don't think that that
is the sole reason, because it's easy to just say, well,
it's all Bow's fault.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
And don't get me wrong, there's certain things that Bow.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Needs to clean up, but there's a way that I
feel as a play caller, you can help him out.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's just like in
the beginning of the game, you see him sailing balls,
as you know, he just he looks like he's wound
too tight or something. And by the end of the
game we get the fourth quarter, he's kind of settled in.
You know how a second you get your second win,
you get the wind out, you get the second.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Win, and you I don't think it's a second win, man.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
People call it a post something clarity, but you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, I don't think it's a second got a headshake
from secrets, that's part of that.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I think what it is is when we watched bo
perform in the fourth quarter where it was against the Giants,
whether it was against the the Texans or even last
night trying to make some of a rally, what changes
for me and what I'm seeing is the office seemed
to be a little more repped up, not because he's

(07:33):
jacked up, well, for the fact that now we're playing
with a little more pace. When he's playing with pace,
he works better under that type of pressure.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I agree with that, I think, and I think that
that is you're playing on football instinct, right, Yes, you're not.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You don't have any of that the Baker Mayfield. Yeah,
And that's what it is like.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
When you take the thought process out of it, they
can't overthink it. It was something the Rams finally figured
out with Shared Goff. You remember he was goff oled
to start his golf career and then he and then
he got you know, and when Sean McVay got that,
they found a way to sort of take the thinking
out of it for him and just get him to
operate on the instinct. And Jared Goff's been a much
better quarterback ever since then. There are some guys that
need that, some guys that that that overthink situations like

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that in the moment and it causes almost like a
paralysis by over analysis.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well what is that a by product of too much structure?
Maybe I don't. I don't know the exact answer to that.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm spitballing here, but but I mean you look at it,
you see it, You see bo get better as games
go along. Now, there are other problems with this offense
besides bow Nicks. We've got receivers that can't catch the ball.
I mean, bidet would you know, would walk to a
first down on that swing pass? Evan ingram on the
on the play bow head to improvise where Egonan's come across.
You gotta catch that, bro Like, you gotta catch that one.

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That one was I mean hitch in the hands, you
gotta catch it.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So there are plays that are left on the field.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
But but it's it's a combination of all these It's
not just bo nick some inaccuracies. It's not just players
dropping passes. It's not just penalties, you know, like we
we I mean, I keep going back to this because
it just blows my mind.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
But we went.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Down to the goal line a couple of games ago.
We throw a past the Garrett bowls we got. We're
dialing up yesterday. We're dialing up plays for Courtland Sutton
to throw the ball. Why when we need a yard,
you need one yard and we're taking the ball out
of and putting guys into different positions than what they
are best at. Because when you have to run trick plays,

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it suggests that you don't have confidence in your offense
to execute its bases.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well. One thing is the offense is like sixty gimmecky plays.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I mean, you know we're not sixty, but we got
way too many of them. Oh well, we can run
a play like that every now and again.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now, when it comes to those those swing routes or
those those kind of alley screens that the Broncos try
to run, which Broncos country last night, they were a
little upset and you can hear it in the mons
and groans. But if you do one of those plays
per game complimented by something else, I don't think you

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would hear the moans and groans.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
From the fans.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
But we've said it before that there is a disconnect
here right. Because I'm not in the building, I can't
put my finger on exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
But based on the optics.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
And what I'm seeing from my years of being defensive person,
I'm just seeing as though there's something missing. You can
see it in Bo's face when he comes off the sideline,
whether he didn't like how the play was called in.
He didn't like the play that was being called in,
and you have to wonder how much that is affecting

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him and his mental process.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
To where now.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I mean you got to think man being a quarterback
here and long shadow to be that's I mean, the
first of all, you're living in John Elway's shadow, which
cats is a much larger shadow than the Rocky Mountains themselves.
And then you have Peyton Manning. Well you see, no,

(11:16):
you don't jump the painting. Yet you still got you
still got j Plumber in there. You gotta go Plumber.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, I'm just going a of greatness or whatever you
planning of John Alway.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And then you got Jake Plumber. There you go, You've
got Tim Tebow.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I mean, I think, I know that's a joke, but
the shadow of Tim Tebow, or the spector or the
legend of Tim Tebow does remain here in the not only.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Solely based on the fact having like the walk off,
the wind Downs and the Wior Thomas. I mean kind
of it's that season that season for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
And I wasn't here in Denver at the time, but
I watched it from another market, and I'll tell you
it was magic. From the outside watching it, it was
it was just like, how long can this guy keep
doing this stuff?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, as long as you have a defense that keeps
you in the game, really that props you up.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I mean, that's kind of the idea.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's almost like there's a similarity there.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Right, there's some symmetry symmetry right there out there. But
I'm just saying that there are the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You have sort of this this legendary and even if
Tim Tebow was a flash in the plant Patty games,
whatever you want to call it, but there's sort of
this legendary pantheon of quarterbacks here that you already have
to contend with the legend thereof.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
But this is why I've been With all that being said,
I feel as of that there is pressure on ball
oh yeah, right, and he just needs to relax and
play his game. But as easily as I say that,
it is still difficult because Bo's not designing his own plays.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
No, he's not calling his own shot.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
So once again, I go back to this that it
would be great for the signal caller to start dowaling
things up that sets Bow up and get him settled
into the offense later on. And if you want to
at some point on third and one or fourth and one,
take the sat down the field, no quarterback has already

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set up because he already has the.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Build in confidence. Yeah, I just I can't.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean it's funny because when it gets to third
and one, instead of expecting us to do you know,
in a lot of cases, you would expect a team
to go for it and then they come out and
trick you. Right, Well, third and one for us, everybody
expect Sean Payton to run some sort of trick.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Play and as it got snuffed out, like the court,
think got mad right away. The Raiders. Nobody was fall over.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
That because no, because everybody knows he's not gonna do
what you should do in this situation. He's gonna outre
you know what I'm gonna do air quotes. He in
the studio, he's gonna out think you with some some
you know. It's like that scene from Mission Impossible. I
think it's the second one when when Sean Bean is like,
because he's Ethan hot, so he's going to try something
seeing acrobatic. You know, I can't do the Sean Bean
accept but he's like the sat acrobatic maneuver. Rather than

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just walking the front door, He's going to have some
sort of insane acrobatic maneuver.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
It comes in through the ceiling and all this.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
You know, and and and I'm like, yeah, Sean Penn
is just me the the admission impossible to Ethan hunt
where he's you know, he's doing some insanely ridiculous thing
to accomplish the same.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Thing that just walking through the front door would do.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Listen, man, all of that isn't necessary. And the way
you're gonna look at it, there's a time and a
place for it. And Mike Tomlin once said that to
me is that you have to be calculated in the
things that you do right, and you have to be
intentional at the same time, and you have to make

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sure that your tendencies don't actually catch up with you,
and you can actually use your tendency's bend as an eyelly,
like you're saying, line up in a particular formation, make
them think you're going to do something, and guess what
you do to total opposite. You know, there's a handful
of coordinators who become great at doing.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
That, Kyle Shanahan being one.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Sean McVay being the other, and the other there's an
other guy the Bronco's gonna have to play in ten days,
and that's Andy Reid.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
They have a Tennessee with the Andy Reid offense to
make the difficult things for other teams look very easy.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah yeah, And that's the sign of great code. Great
coaching takes what he's got and maximizes the margins for that.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So saying, if you had a lemon, you make lemonade.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Limit constart right, make a lima keyche key lib whereas.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
We only have chocolate cake. I don't care if you're
a lemon. We're having chocolate cake, and somehow your lemon
is gonna have to magically become talk brock, let's cut
your kick back after this, bro Have you even ever
tried carrot cake? Shout out to the best drop we
ever had on the show?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
From uh Blue Stacy.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
From Util did them we got to meet a couple
of kids ago.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yes we did? Was that was that from Stacy to
just kind of I don't know if that was listening
to Well, that's not Stacy's huge. Well here's a different
area code than that.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
So there's there's I love that we're a that we're
a family. We have all these inside jokes here a
different listening to what else we get here?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Seven to two?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, says uh koa hired Lesson Nesman. I wonder if
he meant uh, I wonder IF's talking about Jody with
the Voice of the Golden Pipes, because that's before your time.
But WKRP in Cincinnati. Oh that's long before before my time.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Really, I mean I I was just trying to make
you feel good. I was just right. Yeah, I'm an old.
It's fine. We all we'll get the jokes there.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Uh see you lay West Virginia juju the uh the
era starts. What do we or do we have any
hope at all in this one? And by the way,
the line has moved to only six and a half now.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Well both scenes are three and six and yeah, you
have to say you are very hopeful. If you are,
I see you both fan and love because like, what's
the worst that could happen?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Well that I legitimately that's the same thing I said
when I came up with that joke prediction of Freedock
two for the game.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
And then I sat there it was my eyes bled
for hours watching like, oh my god, this is gonna
be real close.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I can't wait before Georgia Georgia Tech too. Why what's
the worst that could happen? This week.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Well, there the reason I'm saying that because when you
look at back to back weeks, right, you talk about
like fifty plus points, that's one hundred and five points
and two games. Yeah, so what's Virginia? They're three and six?
So you have to say, well, maybe something positive could happen.

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You do think, yes, nothing positive could happen, but something.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You know, Like, I remember we were watching the Broncos
just three years ago. We were like, what's the worst
that could happen? And then they went down to Miami
and let them hang seventy You know what.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Really quickly, think about this, think about where.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
The projection of both of the teams games went after that.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Remember, oh, the trajectory of both teams has been that
Miami spent everything they had on that seventy.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
VIC fans goes to the Eagles, who wins the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Mike McDaniel's career looks like it's in the toilet Tua
can't you know?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Tua's gonna be gone?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
And once again after that that same season when they
beat the Dolphins, with the Dolphins beat uh, since Tua
got a new deal, right, remember that game changed everything
for both teams and like you said, Miami if fired
a GM, and it's like, well, Mike mcdames will kind
of play out the rest of the season and see

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what happens. But that's not gonna be the case here
with the Colorado Buffs. And I would like to think
that we're gonna see something trums you jew, Even if
the Buffs actually lose this game, gentlemen, I still think
it's a positive for Juju because now he gets a
chance to play in the real game for four quarters.

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Because you got to think, no matter what happens in
this let's just say somehow Juju's not looking great. What
are you gonna do. You're gonna go back to You're gonna.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Let the young kid go through.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's why did they do this last week? Why wouldn't
Why wouldn't you have done this at home last week?
Because you had faith and believe that maybe.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
The offense would somehow show some similance of energy or something.
And I don't blame close Prime for for trying to
give Caiden Salter an opportunity, but I think you already.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Gave him an opportunity. I mean, you gave Hi an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Truly, has he really given him an opportunity, especially with
your favorite guy call him plays.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Remember he was the most.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, I mean even then, I like like, if it's
me and we're making a change, you make the change
at home, and you make the change. That Arizona game
was as good a game as any. You're coming off
that brutal Utah loss. The Boss couldn't get any offense
going in that game. Like I said, points, that was
the time to make it. Pull the plug. Give a
kid of week's worth of practices there, and honestly you

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should have been prepped for that with a buy before
the Utah game.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Right, true?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Well, once again, as we look at the CEU buffs
and we look at the Denver Broncos, right, just like
it's all of this, The issues with the offense, even
though they're eight and two, all both Knicks's fault.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
So when I look at the Buffalo and said, well,
is it all Caden Salz's fault?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well no, no, the buster.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
What happens when you're the Broncos but also don't have
a defense.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, if you don't have If the Broncos didn't have
a top five defense and that defense was ranked like
twenty third, two hundredth Yeah, you know, like the no,
I mean, just give them, just give them like maybe
twenty it still would be somewhat of a stretch for them.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I just for me, if I had a freshman quarterback,
I'd want to start.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Him at home. You know, get defeat went at home.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
And I and that isn't by fire man, I mean,
I guess, because I mean West Virginia is all the
way across the country on an early game, you know,
I don't know. I guess that is just baptism by
fire as it gets and then it doesn't get easier
because you get the Sun Devils and the Case State
Wildcats after that the sun Devils at least at home,
but Case States on the road. So you know, are
we gonna know enough about juju act to these three

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games in the next year.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
No, we're not.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
And the reason we're not's going to be because the
same things that Cayden Salter went through and Ryan Stole
went through, He's gonna go through those same thing. The
only thing that you can name your heat on is that, hey,
he's a young guy that you hope that he learns
from whatever short comes he has. But I know some

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would argue, well, isn't it bad to put a young
player in this situation, knowing as though the offensive line
has struggled to protect, the play calling hasn't been that great.
You haven't been able to establish the run stop me
whenever you want to, and your defense can't. Really, your
defense has shown the papacity to not be able to.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Track well and tackle. Well, it's to say, like to
see you.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean, you can't score points, but at least you
can't stop anybody either.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, I don't know if I want to hang my
head on that.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I'm just saying, like I'm trying to be sardonic about
it because it's, you know, being at the cerbic. I
guess I should say, because it's it is frustrating, you know.
And and for me, I'm like, I would have gone
to college football, so I would have gone to the
highly talented young guy quite a bit earlier than they did.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well maybe they did, because this is my just my
thinking is that well, they were saying, okay, well, if
we get on somewhat of a wind streak, we can
turn around our fortunes and we still are in play
for maybe a bow game. And losing last week is like, Okay, well,
even going into the game last week, they knew they
were up against tough odds, right, well, they wanted to

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try to put the four because you just can't quit
because if you go to Juju like they're going to.
Now you've already said the season is a wash. But
during that time, those the previouson games, they had an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
You're picking the exact point in between where you could
salvage your season and where you lose the red shirt,
you know what i mean. Like, it's just a weird
time to be like I'm like what why or why anyway.
I'm not trying to get a bit, I'm not trying
to get in there and second guess all that stuff,
but it just it just sort of seems odd. It's
just something that stuck out to me going back to
the going back to the Denver Broncos. What where would

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you start this offense? It's a compound problem. Where would
you go to start the solution on this easy football
one oh one? Do you go back to base install?
Like I mean, is that what you do? Like this
week is you know this ten days we're guy Kantasy
we're just going back to base install.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yes, but even going back to base install, I'm running
the ball.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
And what if you don't have a JK.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Dobbins because he's got to get a second opinion on
his foot.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, guess what you have. RJ. Harvey? You have the day.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
There. Yes, we haven't seen him all season long. This
is the perfect time. This is why you captain, just
in case something happened. But here's something else that I
came across that I think is a huge issue for
the Denver Broncos, and a lot of collegiate programs are
doing the same thing. Well, you think about quarterbacks playing

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from the shotgun position, and these are some glaring numbers,
like the Broncos from a shotgun position eighty six percent
under center fourteen.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's still number snaps, right.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
So when you think about that, how are you actually
preparing or showing the defense what they need to prepare
for as far as.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Fifty to fifty They don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
It's a disguise because you line up in shotgun. It's like, well, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Eighty percent pass formation.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know, I wouldn't be mad if they went eye
formation the rest of the season. Put Adam Prentis in
there at the full bet.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
We were, Oh, we're going to throw back and we're
going to throw back you all the way back to
the I formation to offset ie and and I'm I'm
one hundred like this because we're not capable of doing
what we're doing in eleven.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
We're out of the gun. We're running eleven and it's
I mean, we're just not like what it is they're
trying to do.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
It does not work well.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Another thing that you add into that bit is there's
not a lot of spacing.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And is Broncos offense no, Because I mean, it's all
we've talked about this before, the condensed and compressed sets,
We've talked about this. You got to open it up
like there, the entire offense relies on basically pick plays
off the you know, rubberroutes off the off the line,
you know the spring guys.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
And then go from there.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Well, once again, you can't continue to live in that
particular world because obviously defenses around the league are catching up.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Last night was indicative of that.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
He was a Raiders' defense once again that was ranked
near the middle of the pack in the twenty into
twenty third and they were able to prevent the Broncos
from converting first downs.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Come on, man, that's a bad look.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
One other thing that came out of the game last
night that I think a lot of Broncos fans were
sort of interested in or trade by today, Raiders special
team quarter tomcmahon got fired. You guys may ever may
out remember tomicmahon in the he was here, he was here,
and the brutal special teams years we had when tomcmahon
was the special team's coordinator here in Denver. He was

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fired by the Raiders last night. The statement released was
earlier today. We made the tough decision to relieve Tomic.
I had of his duties. I have a great amount
of respect for Tom and the work that he's done
the league, but we've decided to move in a different direction.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
We are grateful for Tom and his work.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Here with the Raiders and wish him nothing but the
best movie before that's.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
For Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I think that man Darius Swint in the second will
will take over.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I heard that there was some exchange of words between
Pete Carroll and McMahon on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I don't know what they were, but.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I mean, so you missed the field goal, you get
one blocked, it's set up the Broncos, who now you
have to touchdown score three points.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I get to understand that.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And yesterday's game wasn't the reason why you got fired, right,
it had It was a lot of things leading up
to this. But I looked at AJ Cole and how
well he played, talking about a punter with I mean,
who was a bright spot? Yet three kicks inside the
twenty And that's why I was like, yeah, well Aj

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Cole is.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
An all pro punter, Like he's a good punter, whatever's worth.
I mean, still hell of a job.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
But you're thinking, when you get that type of punting performance,
usually a special teams coach doesn't get fired.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
So it had to be more than just this whole idea.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And if I'm not mistaken, I think then Cole he
dropped one of his uh his punts.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah it was you know, snap low, he dropped that.
He picked it up. He still got the punt of all,
he got enough.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
But yeah, the Atom McMahon, who was a personal villain
for quite a few Broncos fans here from twenty eighteen
to twenty twenty one, for some of his bone headed
special team trick plays. Most people will remember him as
the guy who did that Colt's play with the one blockery.
It had no blockers and the defense was they had
like two guys lined up over the center look at
each other like this is a serious thing they're doing.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You know what was that thing they used and men
in black the neuralizer neuralize it.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I'm sure he will be refruit.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
He had the trick play the punt where he had
the punters, he had sent the ball and it was
like a why Crossers the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
It took so long for.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
The play developed that the punter got sacked trying to
throw the ball and could you know, nobody ever got open.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
He's had some, he's had some whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
But his son, I think is on the Pat McAfee show,
if I'm not mistaken. Really, yeah, his son's name is Emmett.
He goes by Mitt. But he's on the Pat McAfee show.
I believe he used to be. I don't know if
he still is or not. I don't really watch Pat
mcfe show, so I couldn't tell you. But but anyway, yeah,
he's Tom McMahon got fired by the Raiders on a

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night where their special teams was mostly on points relative dollars.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, I mean yeah, I would concur with that idea.
That's why.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I mean we had the punter that had the yips
in the first half, a kicker that missed the field goal. Yah, yeah,
I mean short by like it was not even close.
I tried to like, you got to push that ball
through it.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
No, no, no chance.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Where do you fall on this whole concept that the wind.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It was windy last night.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It was windy for a minute down there on the field.
I mean it was less than it wasn't even double digits.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So do you think the wind had anything to do
with answering anything that we saw on the game.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Maybe the swirling wind pushed that kick a little bit,
the Lutz kick a little bit.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
But because if you look at the ararange flash.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
He's been yeah, where he was kicking, it was going
right to left right, So I mean maybe we had
a sudden gust coming in over the south stands. It
was it was swirling a little bit. But I'll take
you like it was windy away before the game. It
was windy when we were out there at the Mini
mile high. Yeah, because the way it was about eleven
to fifteen miles an hour at that point. It was noticeable,
but once you got inside the stadium and then it
calmed down. An hour and a half later, it was
down to like seven to nine miles an hour. It

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was not that windy game one.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's what we're hearing. Yeah, that was nonsense. And then
the wind.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Did you go back and you watch the crassh up
on the wind did have anything to do with it.
He just missed, missed his foot. He dropped the ball
and miss his foot like wind did have anything to
do with it. So yeah, that stuff. But I just
thought the Tom mcmn thing was funny because Tom mcmah
was such a villain here. Roccos fans hated him like
I hated him.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
That's why it was perfect when he went to the Raiders,
I mean by joining them, I mean, I mean, could
you join any other team that Roccos fans did not like?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
So it's it's just a kind of unfortunate. I don't
like to see anyone get get fired.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
But I just thought it was kind of wild, especially
after their performance from a special team's standpoint.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Wasn't really that bad.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, he's I mean All he has to do now
is join the Chargers at some point to complete the
AFC West circuits.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
So interesting. Here's helping Broncos cut your detbacking for this