11-18-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight with Steve Atwater

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Guys, we're coming off with chief victory.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
A big one.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Probably ended there run over the ANFC West, I mean,
barring an absolutely epic collapse by the Chargers and Broncos,
which I mean is possible but not probable, Chas are
fighting for a wild card.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Now, we've seen this movie before, and this is what
the NFL is. And if you look around sports in general,
we've seen teams dominate for a certain amount of years
only to watch them taper off.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
And it's because it's going to be someone else.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, Because well, the last team that was so dominant
in the NFL, that would be the Newland Patriots, and
they dominated for twenty some odd years, right, And we
saw some great coaches, we saw some great quarterbacks go down.
And when we look around the landscape of sports, well,

(00:58):
and even if we broke it down into eras, there
was always a team of two that stumped out the
championship dreams of everyone else. And I think about when
Michael Jordan was in the league, and before him, it
was the Pistons, and before the Pistons.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
It was the Lakers and the Celtics.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
So we're just seeing an evolution of the game, just
transform and time.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes, it's time.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
It is It is time.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
So the question is who's going to become the new
franchise and quarterback that everyone's gonna love to hate, because
that's exactly what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Nicks.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Hey listen, Oh, I mean yeah, as far as that goes,
I mean, your Nicks. Maybe we'll see at the at
the end of the day, Haholme is only thirty years old, guys,
He's got another decade in the league if he wants it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Andy Reid, you know, I mean, is this the end
for Andy Reid? Certainly we saw the chief fans melting
down Sunday talking about Andy Reid. I'm like, you guys
need to fire one of the top five coaches in
the NFL of all time, Like he's lost the fastball.
I don't know, I don't know what it is about
the Chiefs, but something's not right the way it was
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, like you can see it.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Something's there isn't right, and you know, I just worry
that my worries they figure it out, you know, my worries.
This is like two thousand and eight when the Patriots
took a step back for a second.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And everybody's like, oh, the dynasty's over, and.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Then they rattled off like thirteen more years of first
place finishes in three Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
To me, everything that Kansas City is right now, it's
tied to fifteen and Andy Reid.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Now Matt Naggi is there.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
So whenever Andy Reed steps down, I can see the
hot family leaning heavily on Matt Naggi to take things over.
But the way I look at it, things are coming
to And then as far as that the dynasty that
they were I guess known for had kind of worked
themselves into the conversation, they're going to be competitive from

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here on out because they have fifteen. But the dynasty
or trying to duplicate anything that the Patriots and Tom
Brady had duplicated or create it, to me, I don't
think that's going to be something that happens, and that
right now is the afterthought for Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, well, I would say I still would not write
them off.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I'm not writing them off, but.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm just saying I'm just they're not going to be
as dominant as we've seen them in years past.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
They need to think and I don't want to sit
here telling Kansas City. How they need to get better,
But I think they need to dump some of the
dead weight that's old. I think they hung on to
some guys a little too long, you know. I mean,
Travis Kelsey is what he is, but at the price point,
you could have a lot better on that offense. Your
offensive tackles are not that good. You've hung on to
Chris Jones maybe a year or two longer than you

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probably should have. There's there's been some guys they've they've
just hung on to that Maybe they should have just
washed their hands, reset and you know, and gone from there.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And I know it's tough with fan favorites.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
But yeah, but I think that also helps build the culture.
You know, when other players know that, hey, they take
care of their guys. That's That's a big part of
building a good culture is not having a ton of
turnover every year. Now I understand, yeah, they've been they've
been there. A couple of those guys, Yeah, Kelsey and
uh Christian they've been there for a minute. But they

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still can play. And I hate to see guys get
to the end of their career and then have to leave.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I had to leave. I didn't I didn't have a
chance started.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
So I would have loved to have stayed here in
Denver and finished my career here in Denver, but I
wasn't given that choice.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
You hate to see that, but I guess also.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
If guys, when you pass your time and I think
I was passed my time here and you want to
continue to play, the only option is to go somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Well, once again, what we're where we're discussing is something
that every championship team has gone through and we're forced
to endure. And it does make difference what the sport is,
but we see it mostly happen predominantly in football, where
a team goes to the playoffs, so that team goes
to the Super Bowl, that coaching staff is rated. Just

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here's a prime example when the Eagles first faced Kansas
City in that first playoff game and they lost and
Jangleen Hursts had a monster game and at the Super
Bowl in Arizona, what happened.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Ganning gone, Jamee Stikee gone. Player is gone.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
That's a byproduct of success. And what Kansas City is
experiencing is that all the marquee players that help them
get to that prominence and those role players, not the
big name players. It's the role players that really help
them get to that point when they hit the success level.

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And they at the APEX teams started rating their rosters,
trying to get those guys to add that Super Bowl experience,
and that's kind of what they're missing. And the Broncos
are getting hot at the right time. And the great
thing is they're young. They don't know any better, but
they're playing with a certain sense of urgency we haven't
seen in a while. And that win on Sunday told them,

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you know what, that culture that was once here when
you play Steve, I walked into that culture. That culture
is still coming back. And now this group of young players,
now they get a chance to write their own story
with their own culture.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's a beautiful thing. And I think that's what every
team wants to do. Really well, everyone wants to do that.
I mean Cleveland Brown's wanted to do it for a while, right.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
But by the way I said that whole well, we'll
get into that in a minute, but oh boy, you
look at it.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I just I'm hesitant to call Kansas City they're dead
this year, But I mean they make it the playoffs,
but they're dead as far as the division this year,
it's the Chargers, the Broncos and you know, but I
hesitate to sit there and say that the dynasties. I'm
I'm not one of those people that likes to prematurely celebrate.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm I just have learned my lesson on that too
many times.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Broncos got a good thing going, and I'm definitely concentrating
on that. My thing is, how can to the next
point about them wanting a piece of your success? How
can we keep that together? Because vance ChEls is gonna
be gone the end this year. He's gonna go get
a head coaching gig. We know that that's part of success, necessarily.
You said not necessarily, No, I'm just saying I'm sure
there would be opportunities to but do you know for

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sure that he wants to go.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Some guys love being coordinators because they're great at it.
Some guys aren't. And I'm not saying this about VJ.
Some guys are meant to be coordinated and I'm meant
to be head coaches and I'm not Again, I'm not
saying that about anybody.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
But see, that's the same thing like, and I played.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I know what you're talking about because I played with
guys who were just happy with being on the NFL roster,
happy with just having a locker, happy just that with
just being a special teams guys. And then there were
other guys who were just like, no, this is not
good enough for me.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I want to test myself.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
And I'm sure Vance wants Advance is a competitor, right,
and he wants another shot just to show everyone that
first time out, Yeah, he made some mistakes, but did
he have full control and to do things that the
way that he wanted to And answer to that question
is no. So I would like to think, and I

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don't know this because I haven't spoken to him, I
haven't asked him his question, but I would like to
think that he would love.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
To have another shot. He's going to have all kinds
of opportunities. But is that better than the situation and
that he's in, because sometimes, hey, you're in a pretty
good situation.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah you want to you want.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
To go off and do something big, but it may
not be the best thing for you. And I'm not
saying about the VJ And I said, I don't know
how he feels about that. But some people I think
are happy where they are unders not saying that they're not.
They're not chasing greatness. But he could be the greatest
defense coordinator ever.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
I don't. I don't think that is fulfilling enough for
him because he's done that, he's shown that since he's
been in this league.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Is now like, how do you take your game to
the next level?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, you already did that once.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
You took Arizona and took them from the worst defense
in the league to a top ten defense. And then
you came over to the Broncos and you took them
from you know what they were at seventy point loss
against the Miami Dolphins to you know, back to back
years where they're one of the best defenses in the league.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean, you've proven it as a defensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
And the one thing that we all know right and listen, man,
I don't know anyone who looks to turn down cash
because we know cash is king and cash rules everything
around me. So if there's a team that offers him
a certain amount of money to be a head coach,

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he's got to take a look at it. Now, it
goes back to the Broncos organization to say, well, do
they want to match it? And the question then becomes,
would you play? Would you pay a defensive coordinator the
same amount of money that you're paying your head coach
officer coordinator?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean that's I don't have to pay him make
coach money.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I mean eighteen, it won't be eighteen, but you're gonna
have to pay him, Hey, coach money to.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Sixty five fifteen probably, I just take it.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know that that kind of stuff right there, I mean,
you know, and then you look around at some of
the openings that are going to be there. Vance Joseph
worked with Joe Shane down there in Miami. They were
both in Miami together. Vance takes Davis, well, is that
a good fit though?

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Look at the players they got.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
You think what Dvance could do with with with Abdul Carter, Dexter, Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
I can tell you as a player, he has been
there too as well, so he can tell you New
York is a different beast.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That market is different.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
It's a it's a different beast man. And when things
don't go well, man, the tiki torches and pitchforks come out.
And I'm and I'm talking about the media. Yeah, I'm
not talking about the fans. I'm talking about the media.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think he I mean that job is paid for you.
You bring Davis web in.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Webs was a quarterback in New York before he's got
experience in the market.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Web played under Brian Dable.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
He's gonna know the terminology to help Jackson dart out
to me, look like a match made.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Look, man, I would love to see both of those
guys vance Joseph and Davids Web have an opportunity, right
if it's with the New York Giants, so bid I'll
see a root from Because let's not forget we saw
and during the preseason game, but because it was guess
I believe Arizona David's Web.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Actually call that game.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes, we just won one of the biggest games of
the year, and we're talking about coaches leaving.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
We're trying to learn the lesson from the Steve.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Wait. Come on, man, listen, come on, man. We all
know that's the price of doing business. When you do well,
your organisms.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
On an eight game winning streak, and guess.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
What, the more they win games, the conversation is going
to come up, so we might as well happen now
to ignore it and go like you know what front
and let's not forget it. No, you have to acknowledge that.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
Get out in front of it, or let it happen
to you. Yes, all right, as Davis or Vans a
question about it during the season.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Wait, wait, first, no one's gonna answer that question.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
They ain't gonna ask that question either.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yes, no one's gonna ask that question, and no one's
going to They're not going to answer. Let's just say
that someone was bold enough to ask them that question.
Here is what the answer that you're going to get, Ben,
if you please, you are asking me the question, and.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'll play as Joseph Davis web.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
ANSWER's Several head coaching openings places that you've been before,
like Miami, but I mean in Cincinnati might fire their
coaches you worked with Joe Shane, the general manage there
in New York. Several potential head coaching vacancies. Are you
looking at any of those jobs this coming off season
looking to move in back into head coaching.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, My idea right now is looking forward to the
next game practice, making sure.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
That our players go out there and perform well. I
don't know if you guys have been paying attention to
our defensive side of the ball and the way that
they play together, and they play unselfish football. So for me,
that is what I'm looking forward to. I would be
honored if you know, someone were to give me a call.
That's a testament to what my players have done to

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put me in that light. But right now I'm thinking
about this team moving forward and getting the number one stocking.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm docking you twenty points for not saying we had
a great week of practice.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
But oh yeah, yes, coach says it, and that's what
we need to do. I I agree.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I'm just trying to get out in front of it
a little bit because we're trying to learn the lesson
from the team we just beat, and that is how
are you going to keep?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
How are you going to keep or have a replacement
plan in place?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Next man up for when people try to bite you,
when people try to get a piece of your success
and bring it to their organization, and you need.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
To have that.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yes, and what Ben and I are talking about, we're
not undermining and trying to overshout out what the team
has done well and talking about the nine and two record.
We would be remiss if we did not have the
conversation because where that conversation wasn't taking place nationally at
the beginning of season, it's starting to take place now.

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So it makes sense that just say, Okay, you know what,
let's go ahead and talk about it. Just s throw
it out there right, pink elephant in the room, and
just move on because every game that they win, the
conversation is only going to increase.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
And if this, if this.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Defense starts to get closer to that Chicago Bears seventy
two sacks, what do you think is going to happen?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Steve?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
We're going to see so many people kind of coming
here to Denver to practice and games that we hadn't
seen here in the past five or six years.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
And it's not just going to be head coaching opportunities.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Ifans doesn't want to be a head coach, everybody around
the league is going to offer that defensive coordinator with
an assistant head coach, bump title and all the money
in the world on top of it.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
So that's just I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
And who was to say that it if it's not
in the league, I mean, it could be college coaching.
Jane Franklin is just kind of signed to deal with
Virginia Tech. It could be another school right on the
collegiate level. We just know that like jumping around, don't you.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
No, it's not jumping around, which has been called me
house of pain with his hat.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yes, you have to be.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
The Piepple express right here, Grant, Yes, says Rosemary in time.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Huh like that.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
But Steve, we're not.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Jumping around, but we're just talking about the realistic opportunities.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I know there are opportunities, but take thieves. Okay, how
long has he been with Kansas City now?

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Years?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Steve enjoys. He enjoys doing that. He enjoys being that
he was a head coaching. He was He wasn't the
head coach good. He wasn't head coach good. He was
a head coaching. It was a disaster.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
You thought vance was bad, you got to go back
and remember, yeah, coaching tenure was one of the worst
all time.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
So maybe he.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Doesn't want that because when you become a head coach,
you now are the face of the organization, whereas the
coordinator you just had one job doing that or whatever.
But now you become a head coach, You're now doing everything.
Your attention units are so dispersed, so it's being able
to master those. But the bigger part of having other
coaches that have your back and have your support, So

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why you are handling your head coaching duties. They're holding
down the front just like well Ben doesn't know this. Me,
you and Grant can attest to this. Wife he holds
down the four. Allow wants to go out there and
do what we do?

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Right, Hopefully Ben gets to that point and he experienced
what that What that feels like?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They were ten and thirty eight under Spagnolo with the
league's worst offense three years in a row. They barely
averaged ten points a game.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
And I don't think he wants to do that again.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
They went one in fifteen and two and fourteen and
back to back years. You know whose offensive coordinator was?

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Get ready? Was it? Joshper Days and Pat Shermer? Those
were his two four and I think it's sided to
doc on that one. Those were his two ocs. I see,
I don't think Stezpeg.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean maybe he does now, but for a while
there he had no interest in going back and being
a head coach after just how big a disaster Jeff
Fisher came in and looked like a genius after he
was after he was gone, oh seven to nine, Jeff Fisher.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
We had a break Broncos country net back unt of
this twenty two to.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Nineteen Broncos knock off Kansas City and despite not much
of a run game, we did run it twenty one
times if you count the three bow Knicks rushes and
the Marvin Mims rush, but only fifty nine yards out
of that that's a two point eight average. The only
back that was any way effective was Jalil McLoughlin, who
averaged three point two per Carrie and got the loan touchdown.
On the grounds We're gonna have to do better than

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that going forward. I don't think he can get his
one dimensional against some of these other teams as we
were against Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
No you're not.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
And going into the game, I told Jojo when we
did the pregame show that both the Broncos and Kansas
City have done a great job against the run, and
I knew that they were going to force the Broncos
to go to someone else from a personnel standpoint or
be a little more creative offensively because there was no JK.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Dobbins.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
The fact that and I'm going to remove the bow
knicks and Marvin Maham's stat line the carries off the
team rushing and just say, well, seventeen rushes that was
too far less rushing attempts than you actually needed. But
the idea was the Broncos was still successful. But I'll
say this, guys of Deli McLoughlin, I feel his pain.

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I've been where he's been or where he is right
now as a player. But I'm also happy for him
even though six carried nineteen yards, the fact that he
was able to get into the red zone. I think
when you watched him run into the red zone, he
was so happy. It was almost like he was his
first rushing touchdown of the season.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
And it was because everything that.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
He's been through, he's been, he's been up, he's been
down as far as been on the roster, not being
on the roster. But you're now watching other individuals go
out and get the reps that you had the previous year. Yeah,
only to watch JK. Dobbins go down, your number is
called because for me, even though it was only six carries.
It seemed as though Sean Payton was trusting a little

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more in Julil now than he did at the beginning
of the season, and we didn't see.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
His man head.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
I mean, well I had to, but it's by necessity.
But still either way, Julie was up. He got into
the end zone for his first touchdown on the season.
Just think about that for a big confidence booster for him.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean, his first carry of that game was a
second carry of the season. It's his first touchdown since
September twenty second of last year.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, man, it's special
of him to keep a great attitude because it's easy.
That's hard, you know, to have contributed so much the
last couple of years and then this year be kind

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of put on the back burner. But he was ready.
He was ready, man. That says a lot about him.
And for the coaches to have the confidence to believe
in them to trust him in such a big game
with the carry, so.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Super proud of him, Super proud of the coaches.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Man they did.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
They did a nice job of that and also again
communicating with him to make it to where he still
has a positive attitude about it.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
You know what, there was someone else who I was
happy for, and that's bow Knicks, and it's bold Nicks
where he needs to be because I mean, I'm gonna
maybe just be just being a stickler. But he still
needs to work on his foot mechanics his deep ball.
But he has a beautiful deep ball when he doesn't

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set his foot feet, so imagine what that looks like
when he does. But I'm happy for him because he's
been really criticized locally and nationally for I guess the
way that he's performed, because most people feel as though
there's a certain level of expectations both mix ability coupled
with Sean Payton ideas that we were supposed to see

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some astronomical numbers.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
You don't really have to win like that in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
It's like Jalen Hurst.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
You know Jalen Hurst.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I remember Chris Jones.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
He says, he says something.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
To him, you only got X number of yards.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
He's like, man, we win, yes, and it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
But what you want to see is growth.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
And I was happy to see on the first couple
of drives, Bo looked alive and for me, for the
first time of the season, and I know Ben would
always say, well, he seems a little, you know, really hyper, right,
but he seemed really calm in those particular moments, and
he was able to move the ball.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Down the field. And also too though schellam Payton's offense.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
They want to condense run a lot of condensed formations,
but they started opening it up and I'm just like, yes,
where has this been?

Speaker 5 (22:18):
But I wanted to give both.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
His props because he pushed through that adversity and for
this team to truly get to where they need to
get to, they're gonna have to lean on that young kid.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean both nineteen to nine as
a starter in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's funny funny watching some of the narratives out there.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Forty seven touchdowns, twenty picks, and the numbers are roughly
the same year over year. I mean, you look at
the interception percentage exactly the same two point one percent.
The sack percentage came down, leads the NFL a lowest
sack percentage. His QBR fifty three point five, exact same
number was last year. I mean both, I mean, it's
kind of he is what he is as far as
that goes. He needs to clean up some stuff mechanically
to get a little bit better, but the numbers are

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pretty much the same.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
You know.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's really interesting because.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's like his praise and criticism all at the same time,
and it all depends on who you are and you
take different sides. But Bow, when you think about the
number of sacks, that this offense is not giving up,
and you get the criticism of bow Will escaping the
pocket and building on the pocket to me and you

(23:24):
got simmar. You think one of the reasons, in my opinion,
that the sack totals are lower is because of the
one thing that he's being criticized for leaving the pocket.
Because when he escapes to the pocket and he primarily
rolls to his right side, he is buying time.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
He's making a.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Bad block even better because he's moving out a way
of that sack so well.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
He just gets rid of it so quick too.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's the other part is the criticism is he gets
rid of it too quick sometimes and don't less stuff
developed down a field or doesn't see it down the
field instead dumping it down.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
But you're not taking a negative playing right.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
That's some sets the difference between both Nicks and Justin
Fields right, too quick versus too late, you know, I mean,
and that's what it is like taking you can make
a living taking what they give you. I mean, it's
not winning the lottery, but taking a profit every time
you you know, you can't lose money taking.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
A profit, right.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
And so that's that's sort of the thing I think
with bo that that's the hidden component to the success.
I don't like the fact that he leads the NFL
in passing attempts. Right now, we have the most throwing
attempts in the NFL. I don't like that. Or winning games.
There's not really much I can do about that.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Well, you know what, I like.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
That concept as far as the Broncos winning games. Would
I love to see more balance in the offense, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
But you know what, man, is it possible that a
change could be on the horizon in terms of you
don't have a run game or do you No, you need.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
A run game because if you don't, now your quarterback
is sitting in shotgun and opposing defense. They said, well,
we don't have to worry about the run. We know
where the quarterback is going to be. And to me,
that kills half of the players you could call because
now you don't have play actions as your ally.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
If you run and always passing, and you're running condensed sets,
you're going to get exactly what happened to Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
With Jake cuiy McMillan. That's what you're gonna get right off.
The DB's coming right off, untouched and he's gonna mess
you up.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying just as a philosophy,
though I know I've always said you got to establish
the run game.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
You gotta find some.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Way to keep the defense gets do we established the
run game in this game? We established we didn't have.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
A run, yes, but but we just get But we
just can't leave it right there because when we say
that not having a run game is now leaning on
the strength of your team, which is the defense. So
the defense made up for.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
A game and the receivers in the quarterback in offensive line.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, but you can't.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I don't subscribe to the idea that even though everyone
told us is that you continue to pass past pass.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
No, no, you, I'm from that same school. But I'm
just thinking like outside of the box because.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I can't crank my head around. Well, let's try it.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Is it possible we could We could be on the
cusp of change maybe, But you have to find something
to keep defenses guessing.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Otherwise they're going to tee off on you. Whether that's
a run, whether it's a bump pass, swing screen, whatever
you're calling it.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
You got to keep them guessing, because if you don't
keep them guessing, they're just going to tee off on you.
And we got to tee our guy dave O Bride
up to do some cracks.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
All right, you all making fun of it, I'm just
gonna leave so you both cheat and sung tonight.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Like look, you guys making fun of them, will lean
into it, all right.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I didn't make fun of it.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, well, Steve is right, we did not make fun
of it.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I'm just it's out there in the universe. I'm not
looking at any particular like that, any predictor predicular producers.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I can't even see if your eyes are open, and
that rat the light on the microphone at the pink
of my eye. Who it's uh, yeah, you win. It's
We're gonna lean all the way into it, man, I'm
it's like all the power into it. Pipe man, you
got away from that pipe. All I'm gonna do is

(27:13):
I'm gonna make I'm gonna make pop reference to the rest.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
I got a question, you have enough food?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Though I got the munchies, Okay, I was asking that
you have enough food, That's all I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
And the giant think of Chinese some some toos over there.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm just saying, well, I'm hungry, can eat now.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
They've got like a tapeworm.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They see you see it like, I don't know you
see it all.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
But he'll be like two pizzas in here and that
or like I think the worst one was when was
that you?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Or secers that was here?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
When I did the fifteen tacos in the two case
of Thesa it was in one city.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yes, it's like where is he putting.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
It many tacos? No? No, I don't think tacos.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Bro that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Just this giant sack of taco bell is it too much?
My stomach sense?

Speaker 5 (27:58):
All the rest?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I love man. Interesting, I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yah, well, well you know who else, well you know
else loves to eat Bronco's defense. Do you think that
they get to that seventy two like they get to
it and they break it or they just get right
below it.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I think it depends on who are you playing, because
you've got a couple coming up where you could really
tee off. Like if Mariota's back, there is the Jadon Daniels,
you might get there.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I think between those two games between the Washington Commanders
in the Vegas game right after that, we have.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Seen games yere.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, the Jackson the Jags line is trash too, Like
you might be you.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Might be able to do. You got three, you might
be able to get there between Geno.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
If it's Mariota and uh and and t Law, you
got you might get there.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
To see.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
That's the thing like when when you were coach and
you get to that point and you have players on
the precipice of breaking franchise.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Especially we got to lead.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
You're not gonna, okay, you're not gonna take guys out
and say, if the Broncos get to a point at
the end of the season, for that Charges game, they
already clutched the number one seed, which you put Nick
Benito and John the Cooper in there, just to kind of.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm dialing up with Jonah Ellison Dondretz t Helman kidding me.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
We'll get there.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
This guys Gant with the hot sauce something you want,
you want to drive her to.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Come on, you get PS two back, so you run,
you run zero coverage and you Blisz, Brandon Jones and
Tylen Funk.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Bringing the boat out.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Way at the point now where that's a legitimate discussion though,
like the Broncos could be in line for by the
time you get the week eighteen by resting starters, you know,
we're kind of we're.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Not there yet, but that's creeping up over the horizon.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
It's it's yeah, it's facing you based on how many
games the Broncos keep winning, and I know they want
that number one seed.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
It's so valued but so important. You get what was the.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Last time the Broncos actually hosted a home playoff came?
I mean we had to go back to the Tom
Brady versus Peyton Manny series.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, twenty minute.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Hey, I think twenty thirteen, right, I'm trying too, Chris Well.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
I would say twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Do they have a home game and do we have
a home playoff in twenty fifteen? Yes, trying to think
we had the Patriots. Yeah, Patriots, that's right, twenty fifteen
would have been the would have been there.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
You had to Steelers too, Steelers Patriots and then the
Panthers of course.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Was so yeah, I'm Steve. It's fun as always. Man
appreciate you man know you too much. Ben Hey, thanks
for watching me. Propscut your night back after this