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Speaker 4 (01:09):
We don't have to pass much judgment on the Broncos
this week is they're obviously on by but we do
have a game well Sunday night football. It's not going
to be flexed out against the Washington Commanders, and I
you know, I think at the beginning of the year
you probably looked at this game and said, oh, this
might be a marquee matchup, you know, in the league.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But Washington's had a rough goal of it.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Marcus Mariota's had to start with five six games and
he's like one win out of all those. Uh, he's
just been a bad year for the Washington Commanders as
they gambled with Old on defense and that that didn't
work out for him either, and they're going to need
a reset there. But as we as we look at
this thing, both of us coming off to buy I
think it Jaydon Daniels back, I just put this game
in a different category than that.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
If it's Marcus.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Mariota, Marcus Mariota, Broncos blow them out, we're not even
We're not even worried about this. Jade Daniels is out
there though, and all of a sudden this thing gets
interesting to me.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Well, yeah, their whole run last year, all the way
to the NFC Championship game, was defined by Jadeen daniels
magic and him just coming up a little like this
bow Knicks run.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You know, maybe not the.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Slow starts and hot finishes, but just the magical moments
finding some way to win at darn near every turn.
That's something to your point, they really haven't had this year.
That said, I still think, you know, their defense is
going to be incredibly suspect, and even if their offense
is a little better with Jade and Daniels, I think
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the Broncos offense should be able to do enough damage
to come out on top. Like, I think the worst
unit out of the four, you know, Broncos offense, Broncos defense,
Washington offense, Washington defense has got to be the Washington defense.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And then I think, you know, the clear best unit
is the Broncos defense.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
And I just think, you know, it's a little simplistic,
but I just think they have too much talent for Washington.
I just think they're a better team now again, like
you said, Jaden Daniels is talented enough, a good enough
quarterback that he can mix it up.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
But I think this is, if anything.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
A good spot for the Broncos to build some momentum.
You know, they haven't really strung together a stretch of
like impressive offensive performances like Week four against the Bengals
and then Week five against the Eagles is maybe the
closest they've come to that, and the Eagles game wasn't
all that great. I would love to see them not
just have this this one great offensive game, but actually
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build on it, which they you know, didn't do after
the Cowboys game.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, you know, they've really got you know, three or
four players on that defense and then the rest of
those guys, the guys that are gonna just wind up
having to replace von Miller of course on that defense
as a rotational edge rush type guy. Still the kind
of a shllow himself. He's not the same von Miller
used to be, but he is there, you know, to
see him. Frankie Luvu, you know he can he can
play a little bit. Sanders still can play a little bit.
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They've they've got some you know, they've got a few
players here or there on that defense. But of course
Doron Payne still still there on that defense. You know,
they've got some players, but they did it needs a rebuild,
you know, they kind of tried to patch it together
based on a last year we went to the NFC Championship,
we plug and play, maybe we'll be okay, and obviously
that you know, not the same not the same formula.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
This year.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Nick Ferguson was arguing that the Washington shouldn't even play
Jad Daniels, just put him on bubble wrap and write
the year off. I just don't think you could do
that in the modern NFL. And it's it's it's interesting
to me because Dan Quinn went to the NFC Championship
game last year, and I think if you lose out,
you're talking about, you know, like do we need to
replace this guy after, you know, after two years, which
I think is stupid, but that's you know, that's the
those way conversations go, uh in the NFL. You know,
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it's it's it's funny, you know, I wanted Dan here
in Denver when we uh, when we got Nate Hackett,
and everybody kept telling me I was an idiot for
want the retread and then the next year we get the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Retreat and everybody's happy with it. But you know, it's funny.
It was funny how that that all went down. But
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I mean, there's just something about having that much time
off with another team having a time off, maybe getting
an electric quarterback back that it kind of raises the
raises the hairs on the back of the neck a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I mean, if it is very oda to your point,
it's a shocked up win. We can look at it
like we looked at the Jets game, like we looked
at you know, I guess the Giants game we thought
could be a bit of a tracking but like the
Jets game, like the Bengals game, like the Raiders game,
and you know, the Raiders game got a little interesting.
The Jets game got a little interesting. But you know,
they're just dramatically inferior opponents. The Broncos could play some
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of their worst games of the season, probably their two
worst games of the season, and still.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Come out with the win.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
And I think you'd feel that level of confidence here
if the Broncos turn in a stinker like they did
against the Raiders, against the Jets. Jade Daniels is good
enough to take advantage of that and come out with
the win. This can't be, you know, an up and down,
play down to your performance type game for the Broncos,
because Daniels is good enough in the clutch moments that
he'll exploit that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You want to have this.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Game be multiple possessions going into the fourth so you're.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Not sweating that out. And also just to prove it.
You know, this team has proven a lot this year.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
One thing they haven't really proven is that they they
will just dominate a lesser opponent.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, they played down to the level of competition at
times and managed to pull it out at the last.
And the other thing about Washington, you know, and we
get plenty of conversations about Dan Quinn just because my
Quinn crusade, you know, during the Hackett hiring cycle.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But Cliff Kingsbury, who I think.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Everybody last year was you know, fawning over a little
bit of the luster has come off I think this
year with him, in fact, to the point where you
get the Washington fans talk about replacing him this offseason.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, I think that's kind of been the story of
Cliff Kingsbury's career.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You know, his.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Like he has a great first punch and he has
his entire career. You know, even at Texas Tech, they'd
get off to great hot starts, but then you look
at you know, November onward and he really cools off. Now,
granted that didn't happen last year in Washington. They kept
it up all season long, but I think there was
understandable concern of you know, hey, they they didn't drop
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off this year, but is he going to have that
second punch next year to avoid the sophomore slump?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
As we've talked about with Bo, you know, all.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Off season, the defensive coordinators are going to go to
the film, take away what you do well, focus on
putting you in uncomfortable situations moving forward. And you know
now that that's happening to not only Jayden Daniels, but
Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
In the offense he wants to run. He has yet again.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Proven and he's he's not the best counterpuncher or adjuster
in the game.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
By the way, Steve Patton put out a chart just
a few minutes ago here showing the screen rate and
the EPA per screen YEP and You'll never guess where
bo Nix is on the usage all the way up
there at the top and then middle of the road
behind the in the negative.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Numbers on the EPA per screen attempt. Yeah, that's stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
So just funny to watch the only him and Aaron
Rodgers are even in the same ballpark in terms of.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Attempting screen passes.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And you watch that, sorry, and you watch that Aaron
Rodgers offense and it is the most like tail tucked
offense imaginable. It's it's I don't want to possibly risk
getting hit at age forty one, I will if it's
not a screen, it's gonna be an immediate checkdown or
a bomb down field that he.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Hopes his receiver can run under it.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
But he does not want to hold onto that ball
for a millisecond past two seconds.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, he's not taking it's right, kidding me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And it's funny because Arthur Smith's in contention for that
Titans job, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And may get it. Uh, he'll be a good higher
Kafka Naggy.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
There's a couple of there's a couple of names that
that are in that in that Titans mix.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I think the Steelers are only as good as they
are because of what Arthur Smith has done with the offense.
Like I don't think Rogers is overly impressive. The defense
has been down by Pittsburgh standards, but they're doing just
enough on offense, and I think it's because of that
identity Smith has cultivated. They are a tough, snash meal team.
They've got a lot of great tight ends and they'll
just kind of grind you down, play some gritty football.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And I think Smith has a lot more to do
with that than than anyone else on the roster of Franklin.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, they were winning games last year with with Justin
Fields even though he was terrible. They were they they
were The offense got actually fairly decent with Russ for
a minute there. They would have if they Patt Firemuth
had and dropped that ball in their season, who knows
where they would have gone.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So that's you know, I I yeah, I love what
Arthur's stun. I always thought he was a smart guy.
He's a guy who.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Need football, Like for you know, those of you who
don't know he's he's the son of the founder of
Federal Express. Like, he's got plenty of money. He does
not need football. Or coaching in football, but wants to
do it, and that's, uh, you know, that's that's kind
of good for him. Any other concerns about Washington, you know,
this Washington game.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Man, I I think just my concern would be what
happens if you don't take advantage of this defense? You know,
like BO played great in the case game, which I
think was huge, but the run game was noticeably worse.
And as as great as I feel about the Broncos
coming off that game, there's a voice in the back
of my head that's that's worried that, Hey, this thing
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you were able to lean on the first ten games
of the season seemed very like a weakness or something
you couldn't lean on at all in game number eleven.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
And it was fine because Bo played so well, but
that version of Bo hasn't been a week to week
option for the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I So if the run game isn't able to get
it done against this washing in defense, if BO regresses to,
you know, a lesser version of himself that we've seen
earlier this season, and the offense puts up sixteen points
against you know what I think by most metrics as
a bottom five defense, in football, I think you do
get a little worried about this this stretch run and
not missing the playoffs, but probably falling short of position
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positioning yourself for a Super Bowl run.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, and that's okay.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
So that's that brings us to the next part of
this discussion is what is the What is now unacceptable?
Because to start this season, I think, you know, flirting
with the playoff, making the playoffs, you know that was
the expectation. Anything less than that is unacceptable. Well they're
going to make the playoffs, yep. So now the bar
has been raised by virtue of your own success. What
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now is the minimum the Denver Broncos have to do
for this to be a successful season the rest.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Of the way, I think the bare minimum you got
to reach the divisional round, and I think you could
frame it as you got to win a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think if you.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Dominate the regular season enough to earn that number one
seed and you're you're the top of the AFC, you
make it through this this six game stretch, if.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You can't get a first round by and go want
it done in the playoffs, I think that.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Would be disappointing, be destating.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
But I think you can't come away from a season
where you go fifteen and two or fourteen and three,
we'd be talking about one of the two best records
in Denver Bronco's history and say you know that season
was a failure or that was unacceptable. I think it
would be a huge disappointment, absolutely fair, But I think
one way or another, you have to reach the divisional right,
and I agree that. I think getting that buy and
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immediately going out of the playoffs would be like as
bad as it could be and still be deemed acceptable.
I think you really should be getting at least one
playoff win. I don't think, you know, I don't think
it's the bar of what is unacceptable, but I think
a reasonable expectation at this point should be like you're
playing on AFC Championship a Sunday, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Think you know, as you as you look at the
I mean, prior to this win over Pat Mahomes, you
could kind of say there was kind of this built
in where you're like, yeah, but you're beating up on
bad teams, right, you're beating up on less than quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You go back and you look at you know you
lost to you know you lost to Daniel Jones and
Justin Herbert. But you know who did you who did
you beat? I mean, I guess you could say Jalen Hurts,
but the Patula offense has been kind of was garbage
at that point.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You could say Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I guess they were a little shorthanded, you could say that,
But I mean most of the wins had been over
the Justin fields that Jackson dartn Is second star, Gino Smiths,
you know that Jake Browning. You didn't even get flack.
Oh you had Browning that you were up against that
one cam Ward in his first start up until this
past week. And then you got Pat Maholmes and the
Chiefs weren't missing anybody, and that you know, any of
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that kind of stuff much healthier than the frocles, right,
And that's sort of that that yeah, right, and that's
sort of that sort of erased that that last sort of.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Is this are we just beating up on bad teams?
You know kind of kind of narrative.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So now I think there is this whole thing we're like,
all right, okay, you've reset the standard, and the standard
now is we got to win.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
A playoff game.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
And and and that's kind of I think where it
sits for me at this point.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I think part of the dilemma is also the AFC
is probably not going to be this down again for
the next several years.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Like it is a very even AFC where I don't
think there's a huge gap between the one seed and
even like what the chiefs are the nine seed right now,
Like I.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Don't yeah, you got, you got, you know, Houston, you hat,
Kansas City in.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Baltimore outside there, right and those are all teams that
you're like, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
So I just point being I don't think there's a
huge gap there, which is a little scary, But I
also think it means it's as wide open as you'll
see it in a long time. And you know, this
is the second year of Bonick, So I don't think
you want to say it's super Bowl or busts or anything.
They're going to have thirty million dollars of Russell Wilson
money come off.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
The books next year.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I think next year's team should be better than this
year's team. But this is a golden opportunity, and I
think it's fair to recognize that and go, hey man,
we gotta we gotta seize this.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
This is the window, I mean, the start of it.
But it's still the lend though.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
And I think when you look at financially, you talk
about the russ money coming off, at the same time,
you get some of the other contracts kicking in.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Next year, you've got uh and you're probably not gonna
have vance Joseph next year, you know, I mean, he's
a hot, hot commodity. We're gonna have some uh uh
some of his interview. We'll get this out of that,
we'll have that in the next segment. But you know,
you probably not have advanced back after this, which means
you're probably adjusting that side of the ball. There's gonna
be a little bit of an adjustment period to do.
Whoemever it's going to be. We assume Jim Leonard at
that point, but whomever that's.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And so there is sort of this I think, you know,
maybe not this this urgency that you have to win now,
but then there's also kind of this, Hey, you know,
you're having success, everybody's gonna want to bite of it.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And then it's gonna make things a lot different. Uh.
You know, it's gonna make things a lot different going forward.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah, and I think you know, you should be conscious,
but Broncos country should be conscious of it's not just
gonna necessarily keep climbing up from here. You look at
the Bengals second year of the Joe Burrow era. They
get hot, they go on that great run, they make
it all the way to the super Bowl. They really
come pretty darn close to winning it. Even twenty twenty two,
they make the playoffs, and now they're staring down the
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barrel of three consecutive playoff misses. Like there is something
to be said about not knowing when you're Dan Campbell,
you know, a couple of years back with the Troy
and the NFC Championship game, telling those guys, hey, we
might not get here again right now, it looks like
that might have been prescient. So you when you do
have a run this magical there, there really is something
to be said about seizing.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
That opportunity and making good on it, and.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, and capitalizing on it while you've got the opportunity
and not assuming that you're going to have the opportunity
to get back, especially once you pay the quarterback man.
It's just tough it's so tough because your roster construction
maneuvering is just so limited.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
The market rate for quarterbacks is so high, and that's
gonna be one of the interesting things when bow comes
up for that here in a couple of years. You know,
if he's the guy, and we kind of assume that
he is, but if he's the guy and you are
going to pay him, then you know that that's gonna
put you in a buying on so you're gonna have
to start peeling away. You can't afford to pay a
whole offensive line, a receiver, at a tight end, running back,
and uh, you know everyone on defense because they're basically
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paying everybody on Defensely they get three players that aren't
you know, under.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
A second or later contract.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
So you know, it really is it really is something
that you you sort of you may not feel pressure
right now, but there is a there is a window
in the clock is taken.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah, it's it's just making the most of the opportunity
like that. Even the division this year, like the Chiefs
next year are probably going to be better because they'll
get rid of Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey's bloated contracts.
And replace them with good players. They'll have Rashi Rice
all off season. He's not going to be coming off
an ACL injury. There'll be a better version of themselves.
The Chargers looked like the class of the division before
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they were decimated.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Across their whole off offensive line at this point and so.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Like, I don't think they're much of a threat right now,
but next Like, I don't think the Broncos as likely
as it is that they'll win the division this year,
and I am thrilled about that, Like I've been waiting
a long time for that moment, But I don't think
they've arrived in the sense that it's like they're going
to go on a Chiefs like run now and win
the division five.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Years in a row.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
It is going to be a bloodbath every single year
in this division and in this conference the rest of
the way out. Like this is the worst year of
the Lamar Jackson era for the Ravens probably it's a
relatively down year for the Josh Allen Bills, Like, and
you're getting the Chiefs having a down year.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It doesn't line up that way for you.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And it doesn't. We come back.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
We'll talk to our we'll listen to the quotes from
Vance Joseph on the The Peter Scheger Show. There and
get a chance to get into those you guys who
listening to Broncos Country.
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was telling me dance Joseph, who's become the hot name
and in coaching.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Search talk over the last couple of weeks, got out there.
He's out there doing the car wash right now.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He's out there doing all the interviews and and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
He went on with was it Peter Schrager this morning? Correct?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, Peter Schrager with ESPN, And I think it
just made you excited about the prospects of him being
a head coach if you are a fan of the Giants,
or or the Bengals or some of these other teams
we've been talking about in connection with Van shows, if
he was talking about his defensive philosophy and how he
built or you know, he Sean Payton, George Payton built
the Broncos with the mindset of taking down this this
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Chief's dynasty.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I tell you, I mean, sorry, go ahead with the
clip there.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
I told those guys on Saturday night.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
I said, listen, man, I said again, the vision and
how we built this defense were to beat the Chiefs.
You know, how we rush, how we cover right, that
was directly to beat the Chiefs. You know again, Shawn
and George right, you know, coming back here to Denver,
our plan more stability team to take down the champion,
and that's been the Chiefs for.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
A very long time.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
So you know, I wasn't surprised how we've played in
the last two years because that's how we've built it.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, I just think it's far out to you here,
like this has been something they've been building towards for
years and years, and you see it play out. I
mean in the last four matchups against KC or I
guess last three rather they're two and one and the
one loss comes on a last second block. You know,
even if you want to take out the game against backups.
They I think comfortably outplayed the Chiefs at home this week,
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and I think they outlayed him in Arrowhead the last
time they played there.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, I mean they've they've been that way since Sean's
been here. Sean owned Andy Reid when he was in
New Orleans. Sean was like four and.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
One, four and two against Andy Reid when when Reid
was in Philly. And it's been you know, it's been
a little more mixed here. But I mean they beat
the chief with Russ. You know, everybody seems to forget
they paid that's how they broke it with with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So you know, I I looking at this thing. It's
interesting that they've they've built it that way. That certainly
is a a philosophy.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I think, you know, in my opinion, I think they
built it more for the long term with oh eye
on that necessarily, but that's certainly going to be the
pull quote.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
And I just saw we were during the break. I
was looking online and I saw John A. Baron has
made a post taking a shot at Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelsey. People can go see it on his ig story,
but saying Swift put me on a song right now,
which is exciting.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know that Johnny wants that smoke. Man, it's the
one thing covered Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's another thing being immortalized in the in the lyrics
of everybody's favorite favorite poet these days.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And the Swifties are mean. I'll just say that, you
say something, they're mean.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, you don't want to kick that hord. It's nest
but advance.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Joseph also, in his interview with Peter Schrager, gave us
a plenty of reason to be excited about John Day
despite him not having maybe the biggest Ricky Yar impact.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Again, he goes back to the vision you know for him.
You know, he's obviously a corner for us, you know,
but we had Pat, we had Riley, so his his
his vision was to be a nickel dime player, you know,
in the first year obviously, and moving forward placing outside corner. Well,
with Pat being injured for the last three weeks, he
was forced to play corner. And I'm telling you it
helped him because he went from playing nickel and dime
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where it was more of a thinking man's game, you know,
to play a corner, you know, where your physical traits
had to you know, kind of activate. And we saw
it in practice and it was like, man, that's the
first round pick. You know, he's been playing nickel, whin
and and dime. Is kind of more of a thinking
leverage game. See I'm fitting here. So it's kind of
more of a you know, a thinking position. But that corner, man,
you have to run, you have to move, and we
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saw it. So, you know, for the last three weeks
he's been starting that corner and base, you know, and
you know, obviously it's it's worked for us, you know,
So losing Pat was a big big deal for us,
but it forced him to kind of take a step
forward to play more corner and still play his dying role.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
But I'm telling you, this kid has played really good football,
you know.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
And the biggest, my biggest concern with young corners is
no different than young quarterbacks. If you play him too soon, right,
and they have a lot of failure, you know, with
with with lifetime, right, some some guys don't recover from that,
you know. So my my vision for him was to
kind of bleed him in slow and to create the
failures in practice, not in game, you know, so he
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can grow from those. And obviously it's worked for us,
and he's playing really good football. He's super smart, and
you know, with Pap being out man, he's played more.
It helps us moving forward because now if you know,
we lose a corner too, it's no drop aut and ethics.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
We know he can rely on him.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
I just I love hearing the like tangible excitement in
Vance Joseph's voice. I think I was in the minority
of Broncos country that was feeling maybe a little concerned
about this pick. Not that he's played poorly or anything,
but you hear a top twenty pick, a guy all
off season they were hyping up as one of their
favorite players in the entire draft, the reason they.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Didn't trade out of the spot with the Giants exactly.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And then he's for some reason not on the field
a whole time, getting one the insight into Van Jose's belief,
you don't want to burn this guy. You don't want
to Isaac Gadams situation which he experienced up close during
during his first in Denver that I thought was great.
But then also just you can hear the excitement in
his voice about Johnday. And you know, you and I
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have both been around this for a while, and coaches
will give coach speak answers, but I think the the
emotion or the energy that comes across in.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Quotes like that is harder to fake.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, And it's one of those things, you know, vance
a guy who's reluctant to play rookies, he's always been
to play rookies, but you can hear the there is
a palpable excitement there in his voice, a boy, you know,
getting to roll this out there and all that kind
of stuff, And you know, I think it's I think
it's good for everybody involved, because on the one hand,
you don't want to you don't want a yachtam.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Situation where you throw him out there and kind of
throw him under the bus.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
But on the other you don't want to hold him
back to the point where he lacks the belief in
hisself to be able to get out there.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's a delicate balancing act with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Well, and if the Taylor Swift post is any evidence,
it does seem like he's feeling now.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I'm not sure I would have I'm not sure I
would have kicked that hornet's nest, But uh, you know
that that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We'll see, We'll see how that one plays out.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Well.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Going back to Vance Joseph and now he's just building
or really that cornerback room and why it's hard for
John A. Barron to get onto the field. They've got
patzer Tan the second and Vance Joseph. Uh could not
have been more harder, Yeah, more thorough with his praise
about pats er Tan, and I think it it gave
great insight into how he's good the skeleton key of
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this Broncos defense.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I talked to coaches around the league and they're like
there's no debate anymore. This is the number one corner
in football.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I agree. You know, you start with the physical traits.
I mean sixty two and a half. He runs for four.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
He's got great footwork, he's got great quickness, he can ben,
he's got all skills. He tackles. You know, last year
his best stat was he didn't miss one tackle, you know,
as a corner. And I'm obviously the cover skills. But
the football, like you, is off the charts. Right, he
can play safety. You know, we travel Pat left, right slot.
It doesn't matter where the best guy goes. He can travel.
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And I Am not calling a man with that, I'm
just calling the defense. And Pat ends up playing nickel,
he plays nickel, he ends up playing done.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
He plays.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Don you know, we have calls where he's he's on
number three, he's playing a safety spot. So he understands
the entire defense. So we can match him on any
one anytime, any spot right. And the person right, the
person is is better than the player. And that prayer
you say that about you know, great players, but you
know he's so humble. He's a great teammate. He's services
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team mates like no other. You know, like Raley Moss,
that's his guy, you know. Yeah, you know, I can't
get pissed at Rally too much because patman get pissed
at me. You know, he's protecting him, you know. But
he's a great teammate and that's that's his best straight
man as a person, you know, outside of the physical
traits and a great player and a tough player. You know,
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he don't have very many weaknesses. His only weaknesses. You know,
he thinks he's not Pats or Tan sometimes. Yeah, you know,
so dude, you're the best corner in football. I don't
want any boss card, like not one ball caught over there,
you know, so believe me and buy that. But such
a great person. But it's a joy to coach because
there's no issues. I mean, you can coach him hard
or you can explain. He learns quickly, he corrects quickly,
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and he's so self aware man. So that's that's huge
fust star.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I just he's such an intelligent, well spoken guy.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
I just think you hear how he talks about his players,
guys like Pats or Tans, and you know heaps praise
on him. But it is also like I do want
more of it clearly holding him to a very high standard,
and I think that's why whenever he does get a
second bite at the apple, he'll be very successful.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I think it was great insight that patser Tan too.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You're talking about, you know that sometimes the doubt that
that people, even the best at their position, can have.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think everybody's heard the term imposter syndrome.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Before you get somewhere and you're like, I don't know
that I belong here necessarily, and I don't know the
big guy go that far with sir Tan.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But if fans is laying.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Out a challenge of I don't want he balls got
over there this week you're pastor ten, you know, and
I will coach they go to Catchwan, you know, that
kind of stuff, And I think it's I think that
was fascinating about the back and forth with the motivation.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
There well and the greatest talents, and I think this
applies to kind of the Patser Tan think. The greatest
talents can break the rules, you know, not literally, but
they can get away with things that you're not supposed
to technically get away with. And Stan's one of those guys.
He's a freak athlete, at the position who's also so
mentally quick that I think he could get away with
murder in terms of baiting quarterbacks and maybe playing more
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aggressively and playing some games. But he's also I think,
such a technically sound guy that he's not, uh, maybe
as inclined to break the rules as uh Richard Sherman
or or someone else might be.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, I think, And I think that's you know, I
think that's a large part because you know, with with Satan,
he does like to play that trail technique and does
like the you know, bacha and then use the speed
to catch back up and make the play and all that.
And I think it'll be fascinating later on in the
career when you know, when the speed drops off a
step of how he adjusts to that. I'm I'm kind
of interested to see that here in a few years.
But enjoying the uh right now. For me, it's it's
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it's it's extra fun because I remember when Pat was
drafted UH and I was celebrating in a room full
of people that were all like dejected because for whatever
reason they were upset that the the Broncos hadn't drafted
justin fields, which is part of the reason that I'm
constantly bringing that up, but you know it's yeah, I like,
it was the weirdest thing at the time to be
the only guy celebrating that and then watching, you know,
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watching everybody else sit there.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Like, what do we need another corner?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
We got rond Derby, you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Know, like that kind of stuff. So it was it
was certainly it's certainly fascinating.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
To see coming to his own and an amazing talent.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Like the mental stuff that Vance Joseph highlighted there, I
think might get overlooked, but it's crazy that they can
trust him, you know, without any hesitation to play either
side outside, to work inside to the nickel or.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
The dime spot.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
And as Vance Joseph said, he can do that without
having to call simplistic man heavy looks. He can have
his whole menu of play calls and know wherever, whatever
position I want to plug pat in at, he can
perform that job and perform it at an extremely high level.
Vance Joseph also highlighting I think you know that's part
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of his defensive philosophy, you know, using Patzertan as this
this math changing weapon for the Denver Broncos. But he
also gave in this interview with Schrager a little more
of an inside look at his defensive philosophy, and I
thought it was really impressive for.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Our football team.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Where we were in a season, our first couple of years,
it was better off playing down during the plane, agressive
on our terms, you know, taking a all the way,
hitting the quarterback, and that's kind of turned our entire
philosophy on defense man to play on our terms, but
also be smart, you know. We we focus on being
smart bullies.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
We don't want a crazy blitz team that's blitzing, exposing players,
exposing gaps, you know. So everything we do that's aggressive,
it's start out, you know, and we talk about being
smart bullies and that's our deal.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And mark bullies number one of the league in sacks man.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
You know. And we can flip it, right, We can play,
you know, games differently, and I pride myself for that. Right.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
We can have a game where it's it's sixty five
percent pressure, right, Oh, we can have a game where
it's ten percent pressure. In the first half against the Chiefs,
you know, they were taking shots earlier, so I didn't
blitz as much, rapped like four or five times.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
In the second half, we blitz about twenty times.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
So we pride.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Ourselves on on adjusting quickly on game day. You know,
we have a bunch of smart guys, you know who's
now been with me for three years, so we can
adjust quickly on the fly and go from being attacking,
you know, to kind of ben don't break back to attacking.
And if you can do those things on game day, man,
it makes it easy to win games late, especially because
you can adjust quickly.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
I just love that philosophy of we want smart bullies,
we want to be the smart bullies. I think in
a lot of ways that captures like the the ideal
football thing. You need to be a physical team that's
gonna punch someone else in in the in the teeth
and you know, give him a hard time. And you
also need to be a smart team that's gonna be
on your p's and q's and win the the chess
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match of the game. And I think him highlighting that
philosophy and he said uh.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Not in that audio clip that earlier in the interview.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
It's something he got from Wade Phillips, who he credited
as his biggest uh mentor Yeah, his biggest and he's
been under a lot of great defensive minds, but he
really said, you know, Wade Phillips was was the one who.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Had the greatest impact on him.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, and that was that was his mentor and and
and you know, the guy really got him going. Uh,
you know, and coaching and all that kind.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Of stuff too.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
But you know, as you you as you look at that,
I mean that that's There was an article out I
think it was like two weeks ago from Justin Reid
over at ESPN that had advanced talking about his philosophy
and how you know, it's it's really more you know,
it looks like it's man, but really it's it's a
leverage call. You know, if the if the defender, if
the offensive players going inside, it's it's actually his own
you know. And then that way you're only playing one
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side of the round. And it's a fascinating read. If
you get a chance to read it, I highly recommend it.
But that goes to that you got to be football
smart to be able to do that. You got to
be savvy enough to be able to pick that up
and you know, and and and be able to do
that in the so and then physical enough to be
able to execute the defense as well.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So that yeah, I love that that that term.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Yeah, you add Hufanga and Dre Greenlaw to the mix
and you up both of those qualities even more than
it was last year. Like those are smart, physical football players.
He gave you know, great insight also in this interview
into to what the different dynamics up front where you've
got Benito and Zach Allen who are you know a
little more about games, you know, and setting up their
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pass rush, moves, quarters ahead of time and whatnot. And
then on the other side you've got Jonathan Cooper and
John Franklin Myers who you know, Marshaun winstyle just wants
to run through a dude, and and uh, the different
dynamics that creates the front. I think he's done a
masterful job building this defense. And yes, it's got a
lot of talent, but it's also you know, there's only
two first round players on it, including Jeane Baron. He's
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just done an excellent job of like getting the most
out of all these players.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
And that's what you want your head coach to do.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
That's what that's that's something I pointed out, you know,
last year as is how they they're they're winning, They
were winning those games with without a lot of first
round draft picks on there. And how the Broncos have
done there because they've given up so many first round
picks between the russ and the Shawn trades and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
And so you know, how they were making do by finding.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
The right guys and and and you know, maybe that
instilled that philosophically, that that sort of core value, you know,
into these guys. We'll see, you know, we'll see how
that goes. I don't expect I do expect Vance to
get a job, you know, this cycle. I don't expect
him to be back. And that would put Jim Leonard squarely,
squarely in our sites. Is probably the defensive coordinator's currently
the assistant head coach and DB's coach right now, so
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we'll get a chance to get a preview of what
he brings to the table here shortly.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
But right now, let's take a break. We'll come back
and we'll get into a little bit more right here.
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That's of shunning where.
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Can judge me too.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We don't have to pass much judgment on the Broncos
this week is they're obviously on by but we do
have a game well Sunday night football. It's not going
to be flexed out against the Washington Commanders, and I
you know, I think at the beginning of the year
you probably looked at this game and said, oh, this
might be a marquee matchup, you know, in the league.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But Washington's had a rough goal of it.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Marcus Mariota's had to start with five six games and
he's like one win out of all those. Uh, he's
just been a bad year for the Washington Commanders as
they gambled with Old on defense and that that didn't
work out for him either, and they're going to need
a reset there. But as we as we look at
this thing, both of us coming off to buy I
think it Jaydon Daniels back, I just put this game
in a different category than that.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
If it's Marcus.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Mariota, Marcus Mariota, Broncos blow them out, we're not even
We're not even worried about this. Jade Daniels is out
there though, and all of a sudden this thing gets
interesting to me.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Well, yeah, their whole run last year, all the way
to the NFC Championship game, was defined by Jadeen daniels
magic and him just coming up a little like this
bow Knicks run.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You know, maybe not the.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Slow starts and hot finishes, but just the magical moments
finding some way to win at darn near every turn.
That's something to your point, they really haven't had this year.
That said, I still think, you know, their defense is
going to be incredibly suspect, and even if their offense
is a little better with Jade and Daniels, I think
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the Broncos offense should be able to do enough damage
to come out on top. Like, I think the worst
unit out of the four, you know, Broncos offense, Broncos defense,
Washington offense, Washington defense has got to be the Washington defense.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And then I think, you know, the clear best unit
is the Broncos defense.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
And I just think, you know, it's a little simplistic,
but I just think they have too much talent for Washington.
I just think they're a better team now again, like
you said, Jaden Daniels is talented enough, a good enough
quarterback that he can mix it up.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
But I think this is, if anything.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
A good spot for the Broncos to build some momentum.
You know, they haven't really strung together a stretch of
like impressive offensive performances like Week four against the Bengals
and then Week five against the Eagles is maybe the
closest they've come to that, and the Eagles game wasn't
all that great. I would love to see them not
just have this this one great offensive game, but actually
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build on it, which they you know, didn't do after
the Cowboys game.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, you know, they've really got you know, three or
four players on that defense and then the rest of
those guys, the guys that are gonna just wind up
having to replace von Miller of course on that defense
as a rotational edge rush type guy. Still the kind
of a shllow himself. He's not the same von Miller
used to be, but he is there, you know, to
see him. Frankie Luvu, you know he can he can
play a little bit. Sanders still can play a little bit.
(03:46):
They've they've got some you know, they've got a few
players here or there on that defense. But of course
Doron Payne still still there on that defense. You know,
they've got some players, but they did it needs a rebuild,
you know, they kind of tried to patch it together
based on a last year we went to the NFC Championship,
we plug and play, maybe we'll be okay, and obviously
that you know, not the same not the same formula.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
This year.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Nick Ferguson was arguing that the Washington shouldn't even play
Jad Daniels, just put him on bubble wrap and write
the year off. I just don't think you could do
that in the modern NFL. And it's it's it's interesting
to me because Dan Quinn went to the NFC Championship
game last year, and I think if you lose out,
you're talking about, you know, like do we need to
replace this guy after, you know, after two years, which
I think is stupid, but that's you know, that's the
those way conversations go, uh in the NFL. You know,
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it's it's it's funny, you know, I wanted Dan here
in Denver when we uh, when we got Nate Hackett,
and everybody kept telling me I was an idiot for
want the retread and then the next year we get the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Retreat and everybody's happy with it. But you know, it's funny.
It was funny how that that all went down. But
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I mean, there's just something about having that much time
off with another team having a time off, maybe getting
an electric quarterback back that it kind of raises the
raises the hairs on the back of the neck a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I mean, if it is very oda to your point,
it's a shocked up win. We can look at it
like we looked at the Jets game, like we looked
at you know, I guess the Giants game we thought
could be a bit of a tracking but like the
Jets game, like the Bengals game, like the Raiders game,
and you know, the Raiders game got a little interesting.
The Jets game got a little interesting. But you know,
they're just dramatically inferior opponents. The Broncos could play some
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of their worst games of the season, probably their two
worst games of the season, and still.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Come out with the win.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
And I think you'd feel that level of confidence here
if the Broncos turn in a stinker like they did
against the Raiders, against the Jets. Jade Daniels is good
enough to take advantage of that and come out with
the win. This can't be, you know, an up and down,
play down to your performance type game for the Broncos,
because Daniels is good enough in the clutch moments that
he'll exploit that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You want to have this.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Game be multiple possessions going into the fourth so you're.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Not sweating that out. And also just to prove it.
You know, this team has proven a lot this year.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
One thing they haven't really proven is that they they
will just dominate a lesser opponent.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, they played down to the level of competition at
times and managed to pull it out at the last.
And the other thing about Washington, you know, and we
get plenty of conversations about Dan Quinn just because my
Quinn crusade, you know, during the Hackett hiring cycle.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But Cliff Kingsbury, who I think.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Everybody last year was you know, fawning over a little
bit of the luster has come off I think this
year with him, in fact, to the point where you
get the Washington fans talk about replacing him this offseason.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, I think that's kind of been the story of
Cliff Kingsbury's career.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You know, his.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Like he has a great first punch and he has
his entire career. You know, even at Texas Tech, they'd
get off to great hot starts, but then you look
at you know, November onward and he really cools off. Now,
granted that didn't happen last year in Washington. They kept
it up all season long, but I think there was
understandable concern of you know, hey, they they didn't drop
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off this year, but is he going to have that
second punch next year to avoid the sophomore slump?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
As we've talked about with Bo, you know, all.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Off season, the defensive coordinators are going to go to
the film, take away what you do well, focus on
putting you in uncomfortable situations moving forward. And you know
now that that's happening to not only Jayden Daniels, but
Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
In the offense he wants to run. He has yet again.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Proven and he's he's not the best counterpuncher or adjuster
in the game.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
By the way, Steve Patton put out a chart just
a few minutes ago here showing the screen rate and
the EPA per screen YEP and You'll never guess where
bo Nix is on the usage all the way up
there at the top and then middle of the road
behind the in the negative.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Numbers on the EPA per screen attempt. Yeah, that's stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
So just funny to watch the only him and Aaron
Rodgers are even in the same ballpark in terms of.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Attempting screen passes.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And you watch that, sorry, and you watch that Aaron
Rodgers offense and it is the most like tail tucked
offense imaginable. It's it's I don't want to possibly risk
getting hit at age forty one, I will if it's
not a screen, it's gonna be an immediate checkdown or
a bomb down field that he.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Hopes his receiver can run under it.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
But he does not want to hold onto that ball
for a millisecond past two seconds.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, he's not taking it's right, kidding me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And it's funny because Arthur Smith's in contention for that
Titans job, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And may get it. Uh, he'll be a good higher
Kafka Naggy.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
There's a couple of there's a couple of names that
that are in that in that Titans mix.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I think the Steelers are only as good as they
are because of what Arthur Smith has done with the offense.
Like I don't think Rogers is overly impressive. The defense
has been down by Pittsburgh standards, but they're doing just
enough on offense, and I think it's because of that
identity Smith has cultivated. They are a tough, snash meal team.
They've got a lot of great tight ends and they'll
just kind of grind you down, play some gritty football.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And I think Smith has a lot more to do
with that than than anyone else on the roster of Franklin.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, they were winning games last year with with Justin
Fields even though he was terrible. They were they they
were The offense got actually fairly decent with Russ for
a minute there. They would have if they Patt Firemuth
had and dropped that ball in their season, who knows
where they would have gone.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So that's you know, I I yeah, I love what
Arthur's stun. I always thought he was a smart guy.
He's a guy who.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Need football, Like for you know, those of you who
don't know he's he's the son of the founder of
Federal Express. Like, he's got plenty of money. He does
not need football. Or coaching in football, but wants to
do it, and that's, uh, you know, that's that's kind
of good for him. Any other concerns about Washington, you know,
this Washington game.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Man, I I think just my concern would be what
happens if you don't take advantage of this defense? You know,
like BO played great in the case game, which I
think was huge, but the run game was noticeably worse.
And as as great as I feel about the Broncos
coming off that game, there's a voice in the back
of my head that's that's worried that, Hey, this thing
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you were able to lean on the first ten games
of the season seemed very like a weakness or something
you couldn't lean on at all in game number eleven.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
And it was fine because Bo played so well, but
that version of Bo hasn't been a week to week
option for the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I So if the run game isn't able to get
it done against this washing in defense, if BO regresses to,
you know, a lesser version of himself that we've seen
earlier this season, and the offense puts up sixteen points
against you know what I think by most metrics as
a bottom five defense, in football, I think you do
get a little worried about this this stretch run and
not missing the playoffs, but probably falling short of position
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positioning yourself for a Super Bowl run.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, and that's okay.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
So that's that brings us to the next part of
this discussion is what is the What is now unacceptable?
Because to start this season, I think, you know, flirting
with the playoff, making the playoffs, you know that was
the expectation. Anything less than that is unacceptable. Well they're
going to make the playoffs, yep. So now the bar
has been raised by virtue of your own success. What
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now is the minimum the Denver Broncos have to do
for this to be a successful season the rest.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Of the way, I think the bare minimum you got
to reach the divisional round, and I think you could
frame it as you got to win a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think if you.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Dominate the regular season enough to earn that number one
seed and you're you're the top of the AFC, you
make it through this this six game stretch, if.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You can't get a first round by and go want
it done in the playoffs, I think that.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Would be disappointing, be destating.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
But I think you can't come away from a season
where you go fifteen and two or fourteen and three,
we'd be talking about one of the two best records
in Denver Bronco's history and say you know that season
was a failure or that was unacceptable. I think it
would be a huge disappointment, absolutely fair, But I think
one way or another, you have to reach the divisional right,
and I agree that. I think getting that buy and
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immediately going out of the playoffs would be like as
bad as it could be and still be deemed acceptable.
I think you really should be getting at least one
playoff win. I don't think, you know, I don't think
it's the bar of what is unacceptable, but I think
a reasonable expectation at this point should be like you're
playing on AFC Championship a Sunday, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Think you know, as you as you look at the
I mean, prior to this win over Pat Mahomes, you
could kind of say there was kind of this built
in where you're like, yeah, but you're beating up on
bad teams, right, you're beating up on less than quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You go back and you look at you know you
lost to you know you lost to Daniel Jones and
Justin Herbert. But you know who did you who did
you beat? I mean, I guess you could say Jalen Hurts,
but the Patula offense has been kind of was garbage
at that point.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You could say Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I guess they were a little shorthanded, you could say that,
But I mean most of the wins had been over
the Justin fields that Jackson dartn Is second star, Gino Smiths,
you know that Jake Browning. You didn't even get flack.
Oh you had Browning that you were up against that
one cam Ward in his first start up until this
past week. And then you got Pat Maholmes and the
Chiefs weren't missing anybody, and that you know, any of
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that kind of stuff much healthier than the frocles, right,
And that's sort of that that yeah, right, and that's
sort of that sort of erased that that last sort of.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Is this are we just beating up on bad teams?
You know kind of kind of narrative.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So now I think there is this whole thing we're like,
all right, okay, you've reset the standard, and the standard
now is we got to win.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
A playoff game.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
And and and that's kind of I think where it
sits for me at this point.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I think part of the dilemma is also the AFC
is probably not going to be this down again for
the next several years.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Like it is a very even AFC where I don't
think there's a huge gap between the one seed and
even like what the chiefs are the nine seed right now,
Like I.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Don't yeah, you got, you got, you know, Houston, you hat,
Kansas City in.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Baltimore outside there, right and those are all teams that
you're like, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
So I just point being I don't think there's a
huge gap there, which is a little scary, But I
also think it means it's as wide open as you'll
see it in a long time. And you know, this
is the second year of Bonick, So I don't think
you want to say it's super Bowl or busts or anything.
They're going to have thirty million dollars of Russell Wilson
money come off.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
The books next year.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I think next year's team should be better than this
year's team. But this is a golden opportunity, and I
think it's fair to recognize that and go, hey man,
we gotta we gotta seize this.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
This is the window, I mean, the start of it.
But it's still the lend though.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
And I think when you look at financially, you talk
about the russ money coming off, at the same time,
you get some of the other contracts kicking in.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Next year, you've got uh and you're probably not gonna
have vance Joseph next year, you know, I mean, he's
a hot, hot commodity. We're gonna have some uh uh
some of his interview. We'll get this out of that,
we'll have that in the next segment. But you know,
you probably not have advanced back after this, which means
you're probably adjusting that side of the ball. There's gonna
be a little bit of an adjustment period to do.
Whoemever it's going to be. We assume Jim Leonard at
that point, but whomever that's.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And so there is sort of this I think, you know,
maybe not this this urgency that you have to win now,
but then there's also kind of this, Hey, you know,
you're having success, everybody's gonna want to bite of it.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And then it's gonna make things a lot different. Uh.
You know, it's gonna make things a lot different going forward.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah, and I think you know, you should be conscious,
but Broncos country should be conscious of it's not just
gonna necessarily keep climbing up from here. You look at
the Bengals second year of the Joe Burrow era. They
get hot, they go on that great run, they make
it all the way to the super Bowl. They really
come pretty darn close to winning it. Even twenty twenty two,
they make the playoffs, and now they're staring down the
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barrel of three consecutive playoff misses. Like there is something
to be said about not knowing when you're Dan Campbell,
you know, a couple of years back with the Troy
and the NFC Championship game, telling those guys, hey, we
might not get here again right now, it looks like
that might have been prescient. So you when you do
have a run this magical there, there really is something
to be said about seizing.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
That opportunity and making good on it, and.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, and capitalizing on it while you've got the opportunity
and not assuming that you're going to have the opportunity
to get back, especially once you pay the quarterback man.
It's just tough it's so tough because your roster construction
maneuvering is just so limited.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
The market rate for quarterbacks is so high, and that's
gonna be one of the interesting things when bow comes
up for that here in a couple of years. You know,
if he's the guy, and we kind of assume that
he is, but if he's the guy and you are
going to pay him, then you know that that's gonna
put you in a buying on so you're gonna have
to start peeling away. You can't afford to pay a
whole offensive line, a receiver, at a tight end, running back,
and uh, you know everyone on defense because they're basically
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paying everybody on Defensely they get three players that aren't
you know, under.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
A second or later contract.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
So you know, it really is it really is something
that you you sort of you may not feel pressure
right now, but there is a there is a window
in the clock is taken.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah, it's it's just making the most of the opportunity
like that. Even the division this year, like the Chiefs
next year are probably going to be better because they'll
get rid of Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey's bloated contracts.
And replace them with good players. They'll have Rashi Rice
all off season. He's not going to be coming off
an ACL injury. There'll be a better version of themselves.
The Chargers looked like the class of the division before
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they were decimated.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Across their whole off offensive line at this point and so.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Like, I don't think they're much of a threat right now,
but next Like, I don't think the Broncos as likely
as it is that they'll win the division this year,
and I am thrilled about that, Like I've been waiting
a long time for that moment, But I don't think
they've arrived in the sense that it's like they're going
to go on a Chiefs like run now and win
the division five.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Years in a row.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
It is going to be a bloodbath every single year
in this division and in this conference the rest of
the way out. Like this is the worst year of
the Lamar Jackson era for the Ravens probably it's a
relatively down year for the Josh Allen Bills, Like, and
you're getting the Chiefs having a down year.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It doesn't line up that way for you.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And it doesn't. We come back.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
We'll talk to our we'll listen to the quotes from
Vance Joseph on the The Peter Scheger Show. There and
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was telling me dance Joseph, who's become the hot name
and in coaching.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Search talk over the last couple of weeks, got out there.
He's out there doing the car wash right now.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He's out there doing all the interviews and and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
He went on with was it Peter Schrager this morning? Correct?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, Peter Schrager with ESPN, And I think it
just made you excited about the prospects of him being
a head coach if you are a fan of the Giants,
or or the Bengals or some of these other teams
we've been talking about in connection with Van shows, if
he was talking about his defensive philosophy and how he
built or you know, he Sean Payton, George Payton built
the Broncos with the mindset of taking down this this
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Chief's dynasty.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I tell you, I mean, sorry, go ahead with the
clip there.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
I told those guys on Saturday night.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
I said, listen, man, I said again, the vision and
how we built this defense were to beat the Chiefs.
You know, how we rush, how we cover right, that
was directly to beat the Chiefs. You know again, Shawn
and George right, you know, coming back here to Denver,
our plan more stability team to take down the champion,
and that's been the Chiefs for.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
A very long time.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
So you know, I wasn't surprised how we've played in
the last two years because that's how we've built it.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, I just think it's far out to you here,
like this has been something they've been building towards for
years and years, and you see it play out. I
mean in the last four matchups against KC or I
guess last three rather they're two and one and the
one loss comes on a last second block. You know,
even if you want to take out the game against backups.
They I think comfortably outplayed the Chiefs at home this week,
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and I think they outlayed him in Arrowhead the last
time they played there.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, I mean they've they've been that way since Sean's
been here. Sean owned Andy Reid when he was in
New Orleans. Sean was like four and.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
One, four and two against Andy Reid when when Reid
was in Philly. And it's been you know, it's been
a little more mixed here. But I mean they beat
the chief with Russ. You know, everybody seems to forget
they paid that's how they broke it with with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So you know, I I looking at this thing. It's
interesting that they've they've built it that way. That certainly
is a a philosophy.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I think, you know, in my opinion, I think they
built it more for the long term with oh eye
on that necessarily, but that's certainly going to be the
pull quote.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
And I just saw we were during the break. I
was looking online and I saw John A. Baron has
made a post taking a shot at Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelsey. People can go see it on his ig story,
but saying Swift put me on a song right now,
which is exciting.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know that Johnny wants that smoke. Man, it's the
one thing covered Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's another thing being immortalized in the in the lyrics
of everybody's favorite favorite poet these days.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And the Swifties are mean. I'll just say that, you
say something, they're mean.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, you don't want to kick that hord. It's nest
but advance.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Joseph also, in his interview with Peter Schrager, gave us
a plenty of reason to be excited about John Day
despite him not having maybe the biggest Ricky Yar impact.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Again, he goes back to the vision you know for him.
You know, he's obviously a corner for us, you know,
but we had Pat, we had Riley, so his his
his vision was to be a nickel dime player, you know,
in the first year obviously, and moving forward placing outside corner. Well,
with Pat being injured for the last three weeks, he
was forced to play corner. And I'm telling you it
helped him because he went from playing nickel and dime
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where it was more of a thinking man's game, you know,
to play a corner, you know, where your physical traits
had to you know, kind of activate. And we saw
it in practice and it was like, man, that's the
first round pick. You know, he's been playing nickel, whin
and and dime. Is kind of more of a thinking
leverage game. See I'm fitting here. So it's kind of
more of a you know, a thinking position. But that corner, man,
you have to run, you have to move, and we
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saw it. So, you know, for the last three weeks
he's been starting that corner and base, you know, and
you know, obviously it's it's worked for us, you know,
So losing Pat was a big big deal for us,
but it forced him to kind of take a step
forward to play more corner and still play his dying role.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
But I'm telling you, this kid has played really good football,
you know.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
And the biggest, my biggest concern with young corners is
no different than young quarterbacks. If you play him too soon, right,
and they have a lot of failure, you know, with
with with lifetime, right, some some guys don't recover from that,
you know. So my my vision for him was to
kind of bleed him in slow and to create the
failures in practice, not in game, you know, so he
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can grow from those. And obviously it's worked for us,
and he's playing really good football. He's super smart, and
you know, with Pap being out man, he's played more.
It helps us moving forward because now if you know,
we lose a corner too, it's no drop aut and ethics.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
We know he can rely on him.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
I just I love hearing the like tangible excitement in
Vance Joseph's voice. I think I was in the minority
of Broncos country that was feeling maybe a little concerned
about this pick. Not that he's played poorly or anything,
but you hear a top twenty pick, a guy all
off season they were hyping up as one of their
favorite players in the entire draft, the reason they.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Didn't trade out of the spot with the Giants exactly.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And then he's for some reason not on the field
a whole time, getting one the insight into Van Jose's belief,
you don't want to burn this guy. You don't want
to Isaac Gadams situation which he experienced up close during
during his first in Denver that I thought was great.
But then also just you can hear the excitement in
his voice about Johnday. And you know, you and I
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have both been around this for a while, and coaches
will give coach speak answers, but I think the the
emotion or the energy that comes across in.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Quotes like that is harder to fake.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, And it's one of those things, you know, vance
a guy who's reluctant to play rookies, he's always been
to play rookies, but you can hear the there is
a palpable excitement there in his voice, a boy, you know,
getting to roll this out there and all that kind
of stuff, And you know, I think it's I think
it's good for everybody involved, because on the one hand,
you don't want to you don't want a yachtam.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Situation where you throw him out there and kind of
throw him under the bus.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
But on the other you don't want to hold him
back to the point where he lacks the belief in
hisself to be able to get out there.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's a delicate balancing act with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Well, and if the Taylor Swift post is any evidence,
it does seem like he's feeling now.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I'm not sure I would have I'm not sure I
would have kicked that hornet's nest, But uh, you know
that that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We'll see, We'll see how that one plays out.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Well.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Going back to Vance Joseph and now he's just building
or really that cornerback room and why it's hard for
John A. Barron to get onto the field. They've got
patzer Tan the second and Vance Joseph. Uh could not
have been more harder, Yeah, more thorough with his praise
about pats er Tan, and I think it it gave
great insight into how he's good the skeleton key of
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this Broncos defense.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I talked to coaches around the league and they're like
there's no debate anymore. This is the number one corner
in football.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I agree. You know, you start with the physical traits.
I mean sixty two and a half. He runs for four.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
He's got great footwork, he's got great quickness, he can ben,
he's got all skills. He tackles. You know, last year
his best stat was he didn't miss one tackle, you know,
as a corner. And I'm obviously the cover skills. But
the football, like you, is off the charts. Right, he
can play safety. You know, we travel Pat left, right slot.
It doesn't matter where the best guy goes. He can travel.
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And I Am not calling a man with that, I'm
just calling the defense. And Pat ends up playing nickel,
he plays nickel, he ends up playing done.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
He plays.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Don you know, we have calls where he's he's on
number three, he's playing a safety spot. So he understands
the entire defense. So we can match him on any
one anytime, any spot right. And the person right, the
person is is better than the player. And that prayer
you say that about you know, great players, but you
know he's so humble. He's a great teammate. He's services
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team mates like no other. You know, like Raley Moss,
that's his guy, you know. Yeah, you know, I can't
get pissed at Rally too much because patman get pissed
at me. You know, he's protecting him, you know. But
he's a great teammate and that's that's his best straight
man as a person, you know, outside of the physical
traits and a great player and a tough player. You know,
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he don't have very many weaknesses. His only weaknesses. You know,
he thinks he's not Pats or Tan sometimes. Yeah, you know,
so dude, you're the best corner in football. I don't
want any boss card, like not one ball caught over there,
you know, so believe me and buy that. But such
a great person. But it's a joy to coach because
there's no issues. I mean, you can coach him hard
or you can explain. He learns quickly, he corrects quickly,
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and he's so self aware man. So that's that's huge
fust star.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I just he's such an intelligent, well spoken guy.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
I just think you hear how he talks about his players,
guys like Pats or Tans, and you know heaps praise
on him. But it is also like I do want
more of it clearly holding him to a very high standard,
and I think that's why whenever he does get a
second bite at the apple, he'll be very successful.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I think it was great insight that patser Tan too.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You're talking about, you know that sometimes the doubt that
that people, even the best at their position, can have.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think everybody's heard the term imposter syndrome.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Before you get somewhere and you're like, I don't know
that I belong here necessarily, and I don't know the
big guy go that far with sir Tan.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But if fans is laying.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Out a challenge of I don't want he balls got
over there this week you're pastor ten, you know, and
I will coach they go to Catchwan, you know, that
kind of stuff, And I think it's I think that
was fascinating about the back and forth with the motivation.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
There well and the greatest talents, and I think this
applies to kind of the Patser Tan think. The greatest
talents can break the rules, you know, not literally, but
they can get away with things that you're not supposed
to technically get away with. And Stan's one of those guys.
He's a freak athlete, at the position who's also so
mentally quick that I think he could get away with
murder in terms of baiting quarterbacks and maybe playing more
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aggressively and playing some games. But he's also I think,
such a technically sound guy that he's not, uh, maybe
as inclined to break the rules as uh Richard Sherman
or or someone else might be.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, I think, And I think that's you know, I
think that's a large part because you know, with with Satan,
he does like to play that trail technique and does
like the you know, bacha and then use the speed
to catch back up and make the play and all that.
And I think it'll be fascinating later on in the
career when you know, when the speed drops off a
step of how he adjusts to that. I'm I'm kind
of interested to see that here in a few years.
But enjoying the uh right now. For me, it's it's
(28:30):
it's it's extra fun because I remember when Pat was
drafted UH and I was celebrating in a room full
of people that were all like dejected because for whatever
reason they were upset that the the Broncos hadn't drafted
justin fields, which is part of the reason that I'm
constantly bringing that up, but you know it's yeah, I like,
it was the weirdest thing at the time to be
the only guy celebrating that and then watching, you know,
(28:51):
watching everybody else sit there.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Like, what do we need another corner?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
We got rond Derby, you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Know, like that kind of stuff. So it was it
was certainly it's certainly fascinating.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
To see coming to his own and an amazing talent.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Like the mental stuff that Vance Joseph highlighted there, I
think might get overlooked, but it's crazy that they can
trust him, you know, without any hesitation to play either
side outside, to work inside to the nickel or.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
The dime spot.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
And as Vance Joseph said, he can do that without
having to call simplistic man heavy looks. He can have
his whole menu of play calls and know wherever, whatever
position I want to plug pat in at, he can
perform that job and perform it at an extremely high level.
Vance Joseph also highlighting I think you know that's part
(29:37):
of his defensive philosophy, you know, using Patzertan as this
this math changing weapon for the Denver Broncos. But he
also gave in this interview with Schrager a little more
of an inside look at his defensive philosophy, and I
thought it was really impressive for.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Our football team.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Where we were in a season, our first couple of years,
it was better off playing down during the plane, agressive
on our terms, you know, taking a all the way,
hitting the quarterback, and that's kind of turned our entire
philosophy on defense man to play on our terms, but
also be smart, you know. We we focus on being
smart bullies.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
We don't want a crazy blitz team that's blitzing, exposing players,
exposing gaps, you know. So everything we do that's aggressive,
it's start out, you know, and we talk about being
smart bullies and that's our deal.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And mark bullies number one of the league in sacks man.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
You know. And we can flip it, right, We can play,
you know, games differently, and I pride myself for that. Right.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
We can have a game where it's it's sixty five
percent pressure, right, Oh, we can have a game where
it's ten percent pressure. In the first half against the Chiefs,
you know, they were taking shots earlier, so I didn't
blitz as much, rapped like four or five times.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
In the second half, we blitz about twenty times.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
So we pride.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Ourselves on on adjusting quickly on game day. You know,
we have a bunch of smart guys, you know who's
now been with me for three years, so we can
adjust quickly on the fly and go from being attacking,
you know, to kind of ben don't break back to attacking.
And if you can do those things on game day, man,
it makes it easy to win games late, especially because
you can adjust quickly.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
I just love that philosophy of we want smart bullies,
we want to be the smart bullies. I think in
a lot of ways that captures like the the ideal
football thing. You need to be a physical team that's
gonna punch someone else in in the in the teeth
and you know, give him a hard time. And you
also need to be a smart team that's gonna be
on your p's and q's and win the the chess
(31:29):
match of the game. And I think him highlighting that
philosophy and he said uh.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Not in that audio clip that earlier in the interview.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
It's something he got from Wade Phillips, who he credited
as his biggest uh mentor Yeah, his biggest and he's
been under a lot of great defensive minds, but he
really said, you know, Wade Phillips was was the one who.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Had the greatest impact on him.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, and that was that was his mentor and and
and you know, the guy really got him going. Uh,
you know, and coaching and all that kind.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Of stuff too.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
But you know, as you you as you look at that,
I mean that that's There was an article out I
think it was like two weeks ago from Justin Reid
over at ESPN that had advanced talking about his philosophy
and how you know, it's it's really more you know,
it looks like it's man, but really it's it's a
leverage call. You know, if the if the defender, if
the offensive players going inside, it's it's actually his own
you know. And then that way you're only playing one
(32:15):
side of the round. And it's a fascinating read. If
you get a chance to read it, I highly recommend it.
But that goes to that you got to be football
smart to be able to do that. You got to
be savvy enough to be able to pick that up
and you know, and and and be able to do
that in the so and then physical enough to be
able to execute the defense as well.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So that yeah, I love that that that term.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Yeah, you add Hufanga and Dre Greenlaw to the mix
and you up both of those qualities even more than
it was last year. Like those are smart, physical football players.
He gave you know, great insight also in this interview
into to what the different dynamics up front where you've
got Benito and Zach Allen who are you know a
little more about games, you know, and setting up their
(32:56):
pass rush, moves, quarters ahead of time and whatnot. And
then on the other side you've got Jonathan Cooper and
John Franklin Myers who you know, Marshaun winstyle just wants
to run through a dude, and and uh, the different
dynamics that creates the front. I think he's done a
masterful job building this defense. And yes, it's got a
lot of talent, but it's also you know, there's only
two first round players on it, including Jeane Baron. He's
(33:19):
just done an excellent job of like getting the most
out of all these players.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
And that's what you want your head coach to do.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
That's what that's that's something I pointed out, you know,
last year as is how they they're they're winning, They
were winning those games with without a lot of first
round draft picks on there. And how the Broncos have
done there because they've given up so many first round
picks between the russ and the Shawn trades and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
And so you know, how they were making do by finding.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
The right guys and and and you know, maybe that
instilled that philosophically, that that sort of core value, you know,
into these guys. We'll see, you know, we'll see how
that goes. I don't expect I do expect Vance to
get a job, you know, this cycle. I don't expect
him to be back. And that would put Jim Leonard squarely,
squarely in our sites. Is probably the defensive coordinator's currently
the assistant head coach and DB's coach right now, so
(34:06):
we'll get a chance to get a preview of what
he brings to the table here shortly.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
But right now, let's take a break. We'll come back
and we'll get into a little bit more right here.
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