12-06-24 Hour 3 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five, six, six, nine zero is the text line you
want to get involved in the conversation. I talked a
little bit the last thing before we started picking them
about the benchmarks and how that changes for the season
and your expectations now, because I think that at the
beginning of the season, we would have said, if the
Broncos had won, you know, eight nine games at this point,
we'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Okay with that.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And now if we're stuck on eight nine games at
the end of the season, it's going to be a
major letdown for this fan base. That the barometers and
the benchmarks for six they change over time. The more
successful you are, the more success people expect.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
But that's where you want to be as an organization.
I mean, really, this be totally honest. Would you want
to be the New York Jets fan base right now?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
No, no, you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
You would not want to be that franchise right now,
and right now it's all about maintain a momentum and
for the Broncos to somehow fall off with four games remaining,
knowing as though the playoffs are right sitting right in
front of them, I'm not expecting the Broncos over the

(01:09):
last four games to lose sight of what the mission
was at the very beginning, and usually every single coach
around the league sets goals. Okay, here's our preseason goes
where do we want to get to?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
And the idea isn't or wasn't, Well, super Bowl, the bus,
It's like, okay, first one win, week one, right, that
was it. After that it was like, okay, well we
see can we get to five wins because that's where
Vegas had the team, And then after that is can
we get to six, seven, eight?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I say nine wins. And the one thing about it
is the more you win, Yes, the expectations do go up.
They're supposed to go up. I don't know any team
or any player that plays any game and don't expec
to win.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
If you ever played any game Domino's.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Uno flipping coins against the wall where you just didn't want.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
To win, No, you want to win everything. I would
win everything. I think we all know how.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Well, yeah, we already know where you are with that.
But well, once again, you want to win.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
So if winning and being eight and five increases the expectations,
I think.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
You welcome that.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
If you are Broncos fans, and look we all hope
that Broncos win the last four games, they get into
the playoffs and they're able to win that first game.
That will mean so much for this franchise. But let's
keep it in perspective. No one really expects the team
to even be at this particular point.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Let's let's put it there.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Right, No, I know, nobody did I think that, And
that's sort of what I was getting at. It is
just like you know, expectations change. The more you win,
the more people expect to win. And that's how you
got a spoil little forty nine Ers fan base that
now was to run the reason for their success Kyle
Shanahan out of town.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah. Man, that still is a tough one, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean that tell me the two Super Bowls that
you lost, bull, m me be into two Super Bowls
in the in the rebuild after the disaster that was
firing Harball in the first place, so that you got
Jim thom Sulla and Chip Kelly, and I mean, I
just don't understand it took him two years to build
that thing back up. They got there with Garoppolo, it
didn't work, so they had a bad year. The next
year tore down, they got rock perty, they build it
back up. They get to the super Bowl, he didn't

(03:21):
quite win. Uh, they overtime lost to Kansas City. Yeah,
you struggle through the post super Bowl loss hangover as
you did previously, and all of a sudden the famise
wants to run you out of town again.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Fans is so fick, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
A right?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
I don't, it's so fickle.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, I just I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
You're not. It's like you're not used to having anything, right,
and you you're living below the fan line, as far
as below mediocrity. But then all of a sudden, you
win a couple of games and rama noudles is not
good for you anymore.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Right, right, right?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
And I used to eat lego maegos. Now now I'm
eating that, Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Snooze? Right? So now you you a snob?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
You a football snap or remember a time where no
one really get the damn about you? No one really cared,
no one even on Fridays where it's just kind of
like casual Fridays, no one dressed in the team colors.
Now they are, and then now they're going through some struggles,
and now you're bailing. Now you're on the fire the
coach that made you relevant again. Fans are sometimes so stupid. Yeah,

(04:32):
I don't Uh, that's one of those ones I don't get.
But that's the thing I think I worry about with
this fan base. You know, get wrapped back up to
that level and then you know, not wanting to have
the patience.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
To get it to where it used to go.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Getting having this much success early can you can get
a fan base and oh, this is where we should
be the all the time. And I'm like, well, okay,
you want to be here all the time, but there's
gonna be times, there's gonna be peach in valleys.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's a tough league. Now, they only won Super.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Bowl every year.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, from you can only say that when you are winning, right,
when you're winning. Okay, Grant, I hate to do this
to you, but just think about all those years that
you suffered as a Cincinnati Bengals fan, right, And I
do remember that one year the Bengals played Joe Montana

(05:22):
and San Francisco. I remember sitting in the car with
my older brother, black and white television plugged into the lighter.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
We couldn't get tickets to the game.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
So we're sitting out there and we could hear and
both see in a very cheap way, cause effective way
watched the Bengals lose that game. But just think about
how far your Bengals have come from that point to
being in the Super Bowl, being.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Almost five yards away from winning.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
That game exactly now with Zach Taylor and the team
and the status they are now, are you being at
the table to fire him?

Speaker 5 (05:59):
No, you can't. I mean, that's that's my biggest gripe
with fans. And I've said this about Broncos country before.
You know, growing up in Ohio, we had the Browns
and the Bengals, like we never knew what winning was.
And then you come out here and you hear people
complain about the state of the Broncos and you're like.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I swear you won three Super Bowl same thing I
came out here. Man, This fan base is spoiled, is spoiled,
and I think the last decade has really kind of
hopefully refocused that and will hopefully make them apart.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
I think it has because people are like so excited
about bo Nicks and I did Broncos react with Ryan
last week after the game, And it's just amazing the
sense how the sentiment has changed from previous years. Listening
to Broncos fans and they say, you know, I always
knew we were going to find a way to lose
that game, and now against the Browns they were like,
I always thought we were gonna pull it out in

(06:48):
the end.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
The quick change. I love it.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Jane, Yeah, I it's it's as we look at this
season so far, who do you think is the Broncos
MVP this season?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
The can we give it to one side of the
ball or we have to give it to one person.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Who has been the most valuable player for the Denver
Broncos this season?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh wow, See, that's that's tough because first that comes
to mind is PS two. The second guy that comes
to mine is a guy that no one really talks about.
Is Zach Allen?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Right, That's the one I would probably on the defensive side,
was gonna say, Certainer Allen.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I mean, I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, but but but just realistically looking at the pressure
rate and the things that Zach Allen has done for
a guy who when you look at him, you say, well,
he's not Aaron Donald, and you're not asking him to
be Aaron Donald.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
You're just asking him to be him.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
And one of those reasons why Zach Allen is here
is because the familiarity between both he and if he
is the coordinator vance Joseph. But sometimes those interior guys
may not get the love that they need. But because
who's the saying And I don't have the overall stats
in front of me, but I would like to think
like some of those sacks that Nick Benito god as

(08:08):
a player, obviously he was a dog of a player,
bending the edge coming around making those sacks, but those
you think sometimes that interior pocket push force those quarterbacks
to step out there just a little.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I'm just saying, I'm just just put it out there.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
If you don't like it, send it right back. It's
no I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I agree, And I think that there are players that
set up other players. You need to go back and
ask von Miller and he'll tell you Derek Wolf helps
set him up on a lot of that stuff. Even
though Vaughn ended up getting the credit the games that
they ran on that, Zach Allen's doing that for some
of these guys as well.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know John Franklin Myers.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The additionering it from the other side for Coop as well.
I do believe that those guys are up there on
the offensive side of the ball. Who would you say
is the offensive MVP of this team?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I mean, I'm thinking Courtland Sutton.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But obviously, you know this is a quarterback driven league
and we know how much we like to give awards
to quarterbacks, so you would have to say that the
guy who's leading that charge is definitely Bow. The number
two guy would definitely be Courtland Sutton. But yeah, I
mean bo is shocked a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I am, you.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Know, very proud of how quickly you know, the maturation
has happened for him, and to see that, well, he
makes a mistake and this is where for me I
measure his growth as a player.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
He's not going to make another mistake, right, And.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's the whole idea, Like we're all people, we're human,
We're not perfect.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
We make mistakes. But are you making the same mistakes? Now?
Are this?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And things he needs to clean up with his footwork?
Obviously no one is perfect. Once again, but I've been
happy with what I've seen with Bou. And you know
we always talk the ceiling and the floor, man, I
mean that dude's got a high ceiling for me.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I don't know that I put necessarily Bow in there.
I mean, obviously he's the reason for what I'm saying
is that I think there's reason for optimism, and then
there's certainly an optimism with him going forward. But I
don't know he's the most valuable player this year. If
we put Jared Stidham in, there's this team better or worse.
I don't know if they are any better or any worse.
I'm not one hundred percent sure. That said, you know,

(10:20):
I think that Bow's ceiling going forward, you know, I
think is obviously higher as far as an MVP man.
You got to look at over the past two weeks,
the Denver Broncos have taken on Miles Garrett and Max
Crosby and not allowed of sacking either one of them.
And I would suggest that the offensive line has got

(10:40):
some some serious juice with that.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Some serious juice. See, I understand where you're coming from,
but part of me hits pause, and the reason being
because not to count other people's pockets, but the offensive
line is plant they're being paid a significant amount of
money and the one thing that the Broncos have not

(11:04):
been able to do steadily is run the ball. Now
we can sit here and blame the running backs and
say it's all their fault, I'm gonna disagree with it.
I don't care who you are, because hell, I know
football to know that it's not just them.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
But the offensive line could be doing a lot better
in that department.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
And though, by the way, the mobility of a boat
Nicks helps the offensive line too, because this is where
we look at running quarterbacks, right. The running quarterback can
either hurt your your offensive line because they don't know
where he's going to be and this is where the
guys walking too, holding.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Penalties, but he also saves them a lot. And just
think about how quickly he gets the ball out of
his hands too.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That helps to Yeah, it certainly does. Anybody who gets
the ball that quick is going to take fewer sacks.
And that's that's certainly, you know, a product of what
he does bringing to the table as far as that
kind of stuff goes. So definitely, you know, I don't know.
I think Courtland's done a good job. I think there's
playing guys done a good job. It's tough to find
an offensive MVP.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
It depends.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Look, man, we're not looking for a needle in the
haystack here. It's not that difficult. I mean, there are
not too many players on the offense that you can
really look at.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
You could say, well, you look at Devon Beley and
Troy Franklin. Have they made some plays yet? Finally the
Broncos start utilizing Marvin Mahams, and we saw what he
could be if utilized vertically instead of parallel to the
line of scrimmage. Right, But once again, all that goes
back to you're gonna talk about the offensive line, You're

(12:35):
gonna talk about the caller sudden, and you're gonna talk
about bo Nicks.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Now, if you want to take the conversation.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Even deeper, Ben, of the five players on the Broncos
offensive line, what's one of those guys have been the
MVP of the offensive line?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, I would say Quinn minus is probably the best
player on the offensive line. But Garrett Bowles has held
his own against guys like Miles Garrett mass Crosby recently,
And all of a sudden, IM kind of eyeballed that,
like that was somebody I was suggesting, maybe let go
of the offseason.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Now I'm kind of like, I don't know, so answer
the question. You didn't answer the question.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Quinn Minors is the best player on that line, So
is he the m v P.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
That is the question.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'm answer because I don't really know how to answer.
That depends on what the criteria is for m v P.
What you tell me we're having a conversation. What's the
criteria looking at those five guys?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Oh, Betty?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yet for me, it's it's if you take that player away,
it hurts the offense the most.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, So one guy plays, one guy's play plays god,
one guy's book in by two people one guy.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Is it right? He's got one guy in.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So I'm gonna take the tackle.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Okay. So no, no, you tell me what you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, that's you know, that's if you're saying, is
it worse to have Quinn Minors out? Or is it
worse to have Garrett Bowles out? You're probably gonna say
it's worse to have Garrett Boles out. So that's yours
my process of elimination.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
There's your answer.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Now, most people think that you may be wrong because
something that Garrett Bowse should not be back here.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I'm not sure that next year, but I like any
which way I sliced it, I'm like, well, I'll be
honest about man.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Come on now, you're.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Either on the left side of the fence or the
right side of the fence.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
You can't be on the fi I'm tight roping that.
You can't tip toeing down that thing.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
No, because when you fall on the fish, you know
what happens. You know, to toe you know what happens
when you fall on the fence, right, Yeah, it hurts, Yeah,
harrys really bad.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
So you got to pick a side.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Either Bowse is your m VP of the offensive line
and he should be back next year as a member
of the Broncos, or Quinn minus is your guy and
Bo's not.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So you got to choose right now. I know, don't
don't don't, Ryan evers me. I'm not going to allow
you to.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Ryan.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Every fiscal standpoint, you keep a looking at that the clock,
so I'm trying to milk it down. Yes, fiscal standpoint,
I think that you could let bulls walk, move mcglinchy over,
let Pasowski be the right tackle and save someone. That way,
that's if you want to keep courts, then well it's

(15:07):
changed been don't flip. I'm flipping all that I've been wrong,
even on the on the phone here so we get
you know, I don't know, we come back, you know
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(15:27):
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Speaker 4 (15:41):
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Speaker 4 (15:47):
Anyway you get that?

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Uh are Uh?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
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YouTube channel at Nick firds show, So you guys want
to get ahold of that as well, and I encourage you.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
With that, let's get to the NFL six pack. Time
for the NFL six pad.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
I'm gonna trade a lot of beer.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Guy Insight did inside information you can't find anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Six the top six NFL headline.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
On Chargers staring wide.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Receiver Laviska Channel to the practice squad on Thursday. In
a corresponding move, they released wide receiver Des Fitzpatrick. Chanlt
was recently with the Seahawks before being waived this past week.
Signed as a free agent this offseason, he had sixteen
returns for four hundred fifty nine yards, including a ninety
seven yard touchdown. Also had five catches for thirty six yards.
Channelt was a second round draft pick by the Jags back.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
His first two seasons in jag with the Jaguars, Channel
posted back to back six hundred plus receiving yard seasons,
five touchdowns hund twenty one receptions. In twenty twenty two,
he's traded to the Panthers, where he finished with thirty
seven catches three thirty two at a touchdown in addition
to twenty one carries for twenty yards and a score
on the ground. Chan also a hybrid player, can kind
of line up multiple positions, including wide receiver, running back

(16:57):
and kick returner.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Did the Broncos make a mistake now trying to sign
with us?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Christchanol, I'm not gonna say they made a mistake. I
would love to see Leviska in the Broncos uniform. We'll
get a chance to see that in a couple of
weeks when the Broncos face off and gets the Charges.
Ask me after that game if they if they did.
Here is the thing about Levisca. He is just like
you described, very verse and capable of doing a lot
of things. And also, by the way, JK. Dobbins is

(17:23):
injured for the Chargers, so we just have to see
how they deploy him and how productive he will be.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Two Kett o'coond holes says the Vikings are systematically building
up Daniel Jones. Former Giants quarterback Daniel Jones still getting
on his feet on the Vikings practice squad. He is
the best of both worlds, staying in the game as
a member of a team all able to sign with
the other team's fifty three should they need a rise
go for now is.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Just to get him sped up. Oh Coyle said, he's
a talented guy. When big strong toes it.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, we just challenged him to absorb all the information here,
using that as a barometer of where we want to
make our teaching moving far artists.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
We systematically built him up and he's very smart.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Connle added that it's helpful to have Jones' perspective after
so many weeks in the current structure. He looks like
a guy when he throws the football that's played a
lot of football, So it's been fun to have him here.
I think he's doing a good job, little by little
getting more comfortable with what we do around here. One
thing they need to do is have a veteran ready
to go in twenty twenty five. If and when Sam
Donald parlays an unexpectedly strong twenty twenty four season into

(18:24):
a starting job somewhere else, Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Could be next year's Donald ready to go.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
If J. J.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
McCarthy isn't well, this is.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
The best of both worlds, if you had the Minnesota
Vikings and Kevin O'Connell. Because yeah, I mean, based on
how Sam Donald has performed this season, there's gonna be
a team that's gonna need a starter or a guy
who can be a solid backup. And if Daniel Jones
can come in and learn the system. Now. Of course

(18:51):
O'Connor has have enough faith in and watching him in
practice to make this particular move. But it's great to
make sure to know that you have this in your
back pocket, right, I mean you have rip It who's there,
and Nick Mullins, who's there. But the guy who's had
a lot of experience is a guy of caliber of
Daniel Jones. And if you can throw it and he

(19:13):
can run it. So the bike is a setup for
success and.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Not being free.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Josh Reynolds spoke for the first time about being shot
twice in the early morning hours of October eighteenth, but
I'll joined the Jags this week after the Broncos waved him,
and today the wide receiver seemed eager to move forward,
both with the shooting and in his career and quote,
it's one of those things I'd rather put behind me,
by Michael Deraco of ESPN, But anybody going through that, man,
it's a crazy ordeals. But I'm here now, I'm in

(19:39):
sunny Florida. There's blessed to be here. Renolds, who's twenty nine,
was wounded in the left arm in the back of
the head with non life threatening injuries and a drive
by shooting after he left the Strip Club, which treated
and released from Denver Area Hospital in the hours after
the shooting. It was a tough few weeks, but I
had a good support system behind me, Reynolds said. A
lot of the organization over there was helping me out
a lot. They made it a lot easier for me

(20:00):
to kind of transition through the whole process. Reynolds was
on the injured reserve at the time of the shooting
with a finger injury required surgery. The team designated him
to return November thirteenth and waved him Tuesday rather than placing.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Him back on the active roster.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Reynolds had twelve catch at a one hundred and eighty
three yards and a touchdown in five games with the Broncos.
Do we expect anything out of Josh Reynolds now.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
With the Jags? So yeah, I need to turn it.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
As a guy's twenty nine that didn't when you get
a chance of showcase his ability here he made a
couple of.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Catches that excited the crowd.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
He's joining a two and ten team with mag Jones
leading the team. No Trevor Lawrence, So This gives Josh
renn Is an opportunity to prove himself, not just to
the Jags, but other teams are around the league because
there's no Kristen Kirk and there's no Gay Davis, who
the Jags spend a lot of money on. So this
is just an opportunity for Josh Reynolds in Hey man,

(20:54):
I'm happy for him.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, I hope it works out for him. No Ill
will you know there? Hope everything works out for him
down there in Dubaal four.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Bradley job is questionable, but it would be a lot
to expect him to play on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It often is designated ed rusher Bradley.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Chubb for return from the pupp list this week, but
it looks like his twenty twenty four debut will probably
not come against the Jets Sunday.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Chubb listed is questionable.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
The head coach, Mike McDaniel said his press conference it'd
be a lot to expect him to play.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
After practicing three times.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Jubb has been recovering from the torn acl he suffered
late last season.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
McDaniel's used the.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Same characterization for linebacker Cameron Good and long snapper Blake
Ferguson as they try to return from the injured list.
Left tackle Toron Armstead with a knee and running back
rare Hee Monstered with a hip are listed as questionable.
Kendall Fuller nos designation which success He has suggested he
has passed the concussion protocol. We think by Bradley Chubb
possibly coming back here, maybe not this week but next week.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Well, I think it's.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Great for him just kind of being on the upside
of his injury. But at the same time, you want
to be very careful, especially with Lord Lake injuries, and
as though the way that he earned his living is using.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
The speed and athleticism to.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Turn the coin to get after the quarterbacks. So to me,
it's just like you want to wait from week to
week to Seattle goes. Obviously, all of this depends on
his conditioning level, what it looks like in practice, but
more importantly, how the Miami Dolphins progressed from this particular point.
If they're able to get to a position where they

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might be in the playoffs, then.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
He might try to come back.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
But if that's kind of out of the picture, and man,
you just tuck it in and wait for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, I think you got to do it's best for you,
But I would like.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
To see him get some reps out there, get some
confidence back, even if it is in some late season,
possibly meaningless games this year for.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
The Miami Dolphins. Five must be boring.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
To be super wealthy, someone with money to burn has
placed a three point one million dollar wager on the
Philadelphia Eagles to beat the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Was that Jeff Bezos, I don't know who it was.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
A better in Kentucky placed the beat at Circus Sports
at minus seven hundred odds. So this is Philadelphia on
the money line, keeping in mind that they are twelve
and a half point favorites. This is just Philadelphia on
the money line at minus seven hundred. Basically, that means
a better is wagering seven hundred dollars to win one
hundred dollars right in this case, his three point one
million dollars is being risked to win four hundred and

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forty two eight hundred dollars. The bet prompted at the
sports book to move the odds to minus eight seventy
and to push the Panthers' odds up to plus six fifty.
Derek Stevens, who runs the Circus sports book he's the owner,
told he said, I told my guys in the wrisk
room to go to work and get me some.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Buyback on the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
With us being in five states now, we should have
the liquidity get a buy back where we end up
needing the Eagles, even if the Eagles wins, they should
Is it worth spending three hours worrying about losing three
point one million to win four hundred thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I guess if you could put up that kind of cash,
it is.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
And hopefully that bet was made by somebody who is
wealthy enough to be able to afford that, and not
someone who thinks it's easy money, because there's no such thing.
Over the time, sports books generally win, and if anyone
cracks the code on how to consistently beat the sports books,
they typically.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Stop letting them bet.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
In my experience, three point one million to win four
hundred thousand ethnic Ferguson School of Economics.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
The math ain't mathing.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
No, the math isn't mathing, But it just makes me
believe does he know something that everyone else doesn't? And
maybe this person just has money to burn, like you said,
and it just a drop in the bucket, like millions
of dollars to them, is just like maybe a thousand dollars.
And maybe they're so bored they need something to do,
something to kind of get them charged up and get

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them going every single day.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
So who's the saying it's not my money? So I
don't care, Grant.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Are you you wagering three point one to win four
hundred and forty two thousand? Hell no, yeah, I don't
think I am either. I look for something with better odds.
But I mean, I guess he just really believes the
Eagles are going to beat the Panthers, which I also do.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Sick.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Greg Newsom, the corner.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Who just got pretty much torched by the Denver.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Broncos, says George Pickens only cares about himself. It's safe
to say Steelers receiver George Pickens and Brown's corner Greg
Newsom did not like each other.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Picktts and Newsom.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
At a wrestling match on Steelers Hail Merry attempt in
week twelve of the game by the Browns twenty four nineteen.
The scrap continued into the wall behind the end zone
before officials in the stadium personnel broke them up. After
the game, Newsom called Pickens a fake, tough guy. Newsom
doubled down on Friday after Pickens said I don't even
know who that is saying. The only way you would
take something that somebody says disrespectful is if you actually

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care about that person. So I don't care what he
has to say or everybody has to say. I don't
take it as disrespectful because I don't care about that
dude at all. Dickens has a history of fifteen yard
penalties to unsports, but like conduct penalies for taunting in
the win over the Bengals prompted coach Mike Toma to
say he needs to grow up in a hurry. Newsom
says Pickens is not a team player. Newsom says, I'm

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all about the team. Obviously, he's the guy that cares
more so about himself.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Off you see that.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
In all the penalties that he causes for me, My
job's try to do whatever I can't help the team win.
So there's never gonna be no one on one battle
for me. My battles to try to help the team win.
Newsom seemed to unbothered by the league's decision not to
find Pickens for the scuffle during and after the hail Mary,
I'm the ultimate professional.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
The guy like him is obviously too hard. That happened
to our game.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
He got two more penalties the next game, so that's
a trend he does. But me, I'm a professional. Never
let somebody make me do something to hurt my football team. Pickens,
of course, did say I don't even know who that
is to reporters today regarding Rick.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Newsom, you know what, this reminds me of those back
and forth battles when I play, where you would have
war of words with the guy like Terra Owns, but
more importantly.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
A guy like Ted Johnson who was sending defenders peplo bismo.
While the sounds crazy, I think I rather like this
for the game, and you expect this.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
When you have two guys who are.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Division rivals actually going at it, right, because we haven't
really seen roberries be riberries like in years pass So
I like the trash talk. Don't take it any further
than they'd just go out there and play, But I
think trash talk is healthy for the game.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, I do think trash talk, a little chirp. I
think that's good for it. I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Pickens is kind of a bonehead.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
He does get a lot of penalties that he probably
shouldn't get by just keeping his.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Head dialed into the game.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I don't know what he's doing trying to rile Greg
Noose him up by saying I don't even know that guy. Just,
you know, just shrug it off and move on about
your day. Don't don't say something that you obviously know
is not true, because then everybody's like, dude, come on,
what are you doing.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, but once again, once you start down that path
and you walk that line, you have to continue to
walk that line because if you don't, people started looking
at too different.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah see, I'd be funny with it though they have
the reporters around me.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'm George Pickens, and I'd be like Greg Noose of
you know what I did that k dirty the last
time we played What's this? What's his mother's number? I
want to take her out for a nice steak dinner.
Just tell her I'm not going to do that to
her sunny.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
First wait wait wait, wait, see, first you start bringing
guys Martha's into the equation. See now, I got to
see you at the bus after the game. I gotta
see you.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I just said I wanted to take her out for
a nice sea and they never call her again.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Hey, you remember when Mellow had to meet Kevin Garnett
by the bus.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Dorothy Mantooth is a saint.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
You started talking about the guys. Mom, you take things
entirely too far.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Well, I been I had to say any bad about
I just said, look, I'd like to take you.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Just want you're gonna see ratify.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I do it because I'll tell you what. Guess what
I'm gonna be doing every time here on the field.
Once I figure that out.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Guess what so that means?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
If I play defense and you play offense, guess what,
it's gonna be a long day for you, buddy.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Fifteen yard flags. I'll walk them off.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'll walk them off.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I write them off on my taxis. Did you ever
do that?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
You ever have to go get somebody to the business because.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Because he said something, you don't have to tell you
who it was.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
But I mean, I know all about the Gatoray table
that was talking talking nasty to you.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
No yes, to your point, I have done that to individuals.
And here's what they didn't understand, which which is kind
of wild. You play offense, I play defense. Now remind
me what again they were? They pay me to do what?
And oh, by the way, as long as I play
within the confinements of the roofs, there are no restraining artists.

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You can't file any lawsuits against me. I mean, so
you could talk all you want to. I'm gonna put
these hamleton and shoulder pads riding your chests.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I'm gonna take those penalty flags. Manna, I'm trying to
get you to do that.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
See, but I've never.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Allowed a player to bake me to a point where
I'm gonna cost my team on the field.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
No, we're gonna get the We're gonna get the media
flag football game. We're gonna get for to to participate.
I'm gonna play receiver, he's gonna play corner. We're gonna
we're gonna make this sa i'mus See if I can
a bad him too a penalty flag, that's my home.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I'll take that one my whole mission.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Just don't have any gatorade tables around.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's what I'm saying we're gonna responsor by Whole Sports.
The other one didn't even make that. Remember that with
the Shack drink that was like carbonated, What was the
one that was carbonated all sport?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know, I don't remember that the first that made
by Coca Cola.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I don't remember who it was. I remember like one
of them.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Was carbonated and it was disgusting, and I'm trying to
remember which one it was.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Because uh oh man, I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
I wish I couldn't remember who made it.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Was supposed compete with like Gatorade and power It was
Plames Pepsi that made it, because Coke did Powerade and Gatorade.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Well, I'm trying to remember because that was the one.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
That uh Shack was the one that endorsed it. I
remember that, but I'm trying to who was the one.
What was the carbonated sports drink?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Was terrible carbonated sports five six six.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
There's some by time, No, no, no, no, it was one.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Of the it was uh oh man, that's the only
way I could think of red.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You know, that's not a sports drink, that's just that's
just an energy drink.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, you call it, you say it's not a sports.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I'm pretty sure it was all sport.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It was a sports Okay, yeah, it was like carbonated
sports drink made by Pepsi Cohen endorsed by Shack.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
It was nasty obviously that then, uh, sticking around too long.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
We gotta step aside.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Nut stick around Froncos Country, n twe