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December 9, 2024 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks to Teaching Award for joining us in the last hour.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
We're gonna ran and think here wait Comma Sparrel hotline
though we are a good friend from CBS for roomy
being Romany.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
How's it going this evening?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Oh it's going great. Dad, A little snowy, little snowy,
So we're good.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, I'm a little worried. I haven't looked outside yet.
Don't only drive home.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Its gonna look like I was just trying to hope
that it wasn't sticking out there. But now you're suggesting
that it's a little snowy out there. I might I
might be in for a fun ride home.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, in your car might be fun, and it might
be fun.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, even Roy's making I've got to get rid of that.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
That car used to be fun. It is no longer fun.
That car used to be fun. It was fun a
few years ago. It's no longer fun. I'm gonna have
to I'm gonna be able to look out for a
new car. That's that's something. So somebody get at me
about a deal on a new car, especially like if
you've got an electric thing, I kind of want to
try that out.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
For one electric car I've been wanting to try it out.
We'll see how it goes. H Roby. The Heisman finalists
were a Now's. Nick and I had a bitter.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Feud a bit on the earlier as NA Travis Hunter,
Dash Janty we.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Both agree on.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
But then Dylan Gabriel and cam Ward, whom I'm less
appreciative of them being there where Nick was from their camp.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was talking up Army quarterback Bryce and Daily was
the same number.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Of touchdowns as Ashton Janty rushing, plus you know, the
throwing touchdowns as well. Nick called me an idiot, and TJ.
Ward came on and just totally agree with everything I
said word for word. And I may be embellishing this slightly,
but I do feel a little vindicated.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay, Well, I'm unclear where TJ stands on this, but
I'm with you. I wasn't overwhelmed by the quarterbacks choices.
Almost felt like, well, you got to have quarterbacks in
the race, you know. Dylan Gabriel, certainly, I understand that
where he's led Oregon into and that is undeniable. But
when you look at the numbers, the numbers, there's quarterbacks

(01:47):
with better numbers out there, including I know you're gonna
get me flax for this, but even including sirorth Anders,
you's got better numbers than Dyllan Gabriel was one last game.
Now again, Dylan Gabriel brought them to the one seed,
and that speaks for something. You know, in a college
football playoffs, first you're in the Big Ten, all of
these things. But I'm not overwhelmed.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
By that choice. When I look at the two quarterbacks
that are in the race.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
To me, that basically feels like, okay, no, this is
just down to Travis national Genty, Like, I don't look
at either of them and think that they have a
realistic chance or should have a realistic chance of beating
out Travis or Genty for one and two in that race.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Robbie, if Travis is able to pull this off, he
would become the second Buff to win the most Covenant
Trophy in college football. What would that mean for the
CU Buffs program?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And I know you are alumni of the Buff organization.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (02:43):
What would it mean for you? What would it mean
for the fan base? But what would it mean mostly
for the football program?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean it would mean a tremendous amount for
that program. I mean, the first time since the great
Vershankl would be you know, incredible, and it is one
of those things that I think is a micro with
everything that's gone on the past two years, I think
there's a lot of people who devout buss fans that
every pot that the bus would once again get back
to right where they are national prominence, where you have

(03:10):
got a bona fide Heisman candidate, the one that we
believe should be standing up there with the hardware on
Saturday evening. And of course it does a ton for
recruiting and all of those things as well, but just
tremendous for the program that gets a lot of love,
gets a lot of hate.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
But to have someone like that walk through those halls.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
And be a bus and be solidified as a bus
in that fashion, you know, it's it's tremendous and I
think that for bus fans that truly means a lot.
It means a lot.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Really what's happened in the past two.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Years where this program is really is really back and
really in national relevance and it doesn't matter what school
you go to to see a generational player like that
has been incredible and I think that's truly how Buss
fans feel. But this would just really pick it up
out much more. And yeah, I mean the Heisman winner
is a lot for a program, especially a program tho

(04:05):
only ever had one before him.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I was romy Bean from from CBS.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Romy You know, the Buffs are kind of pulling in
a lot of the hardware as far as that kind
of stuff goes.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
The accolades for Schidor and Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Meanwhile, Kitty Dillingham's got Arizona State and college football playoffs.
What do you think has enabled his ability to uh
take the program to that level of success even without
perhaps some of the hardware of a Shidoor or Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, and Kenny Dillingham has been incredible. And you know what,
if you go back to last season, he turned over
the program much like Prime did here in Colorado, just
a lot quieter. But I not positive on this. I
believe he had the most the biggest turnover last year.
I think it was more he had more, you know,
transfers in and out last season than Prime did. I

(04:55):
think he had somewhere around seventy. It was tremendous. So
it's he has done in many ways a very.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Similar thing when he went to Arizona.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
State and when Prime arrived at Colorado, again different in
the amount of noise in the publicity of it.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
He kind of did it quietly, but he did that
same thing where he took a program, he.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Pushed out a lot of people that were part of
the non winning culture beforehand, and he built it really
from the ground up in such a short period of time.
It's been tremendous. It's really been tremendous what he's done,
and to do that, you know, in his own recruiting
style and really his own way. But at the same time,
not that different from what Prime did with turning.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Over a program really two years in a row.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
So it's incredible what he's done, the culture that he's
built in such a short period of time, and the
way he did it again so quietly. It's very cool.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
You give him a tremendous amount of respect for what
he did in many.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Ways under the radar. Amazing that his program was picked
to finish a last in the Big twelve. I mean,
you just love to see it, right, And they never,
you know, never spoke about it. They just they just
put their heads down and went to work. But incredible
with what he's built.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
And really with you know, no excuses, very high expectations.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
He doesn't really stand for.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Any nonsense, you know, And he went about it again
I've said it four times already, similar to how primed
in you're one.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
So it's very cool to see what he's done well.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
With the biggest conversation opposite the Heisman and Shador Sanders
has definitely been one.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
How great to see your buffs have done.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
And year two on the Coach Prime and with that
expectation come with a lot of accolades and a lot
of whispers and the fact of Coach.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Prime possibly leaving see you and Boulder to head for
the NFL.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
If you were advising Coach Prime, and I know you
sit down with him during the season with your show
on CBS four, if you could advise him, would you say, well,
what would you tell Coach Prime as it pertains to
either make it jumps in the NFL or possibly staying
in Boulder for years to come.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, I think big picture with Prime when you look
at I think the.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
NFL in general is not a great fit for him.
And what I mean by that is right, you can't
win a Prime gear on the field, right, you can't
really establish your own brand. You are a brand.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
You are part of whatever team's brand you join.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
If you are the head coach of the New York Giants,
you're wearing Giants gear, right, You're not wearing Prime gear.
It's different, right, the kind of in many ways it's
see you. He kind of has cart blanche. You can
know whatever he wants, and he is a savior in Boulder, right,
and he.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Can make make his own rules and people will go
with the flow.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
And he has got a man in Rick George who supports,
you know, his every move and will do everything he
can to support him. So I think from that element,
in terms of really just you know, the.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Business side of it, I think college is a better fit.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
In that sense. And I also think we've coached Prime.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Look.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
A big thing for him is mentoring these young men.
It is about more than just football.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I think he has a passion and a purpose.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
To really guide young men and help them, you.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Know, become really contributing members of society. And you can
speak to the Nick, it's different when you get it
to the NFL. Those guys hear the message differently.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
They don't want to hear the same thing, right, they
don't want to be mentored in the same way. It's different.
This is a this is a job now. So I
think that's the piece of it too. And you know,
I think with Nil, you know, I'm a ton of
power right that it's for kids who want to play there,
who want to get to the next level, who are
motivated with that staff. I think it's I think he's
got you know, I think Colorado really is a great

(08:40):
fit for it. You can really rule the roost. However,
which way he wants, I've always thought the only way
I think he goes to the NFL, and if there's
an opportunity to coach.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
His son, I think he considers it right. But outside
of that, I don't think he really has.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
An interest to elevate to the NFL unless it is
doing that, you know, continuing that journey with his kids.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
So I was Roby Viene from CBS four.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Robby, we're in the age of the alt cast, as
it were. Tonight's Monday Night football game had the Simpsons
alt cast.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I don't know who asked for that, but that is
a thing that happened.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Are you a fan of any of these I suspect
the Manning Cast is probably going to get the most
you know, love here. But are you a fan of
any of these alt casts, whether it's Nickelodeon or the
Simpsons or whatever it may be.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I do love the Maning Cast obviously. I think I
gives I give a lot of love to the man
Cast for sure. You know, it's funny because I feel
like we are conflicted here with with this fund Bob.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Alt cast, because there's there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Of raw memories there for Broncos fans. Right when it
came to the Christmas Day massacre as it is known,
and Patrick had some orders for Russell Wilson. We remember
that one.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
But you know, I like it.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think it's fun. I think it's a fun way
to bring in other fans. But I I do love
the Manning Cast. Outside of that though, I kind of
with like the Simpsons and that I'll watch a little bit,
but try and keep it on the main cast.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
But I think it's nice for people who want to
get into football.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't got need to be with it.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Well running Before you joined us, I put something out
on social media about technology and how I felt technology
was ruining relationships in the dating scene. And I also
taught something out about a proposed app to help both
men and women in a relationships kind of get alone better.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Based on translation, Ben coined the app. You call it
dude Speak from the makers of Coach Speaking.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
That's right, dudes Speak, where you can have your woman
a significant other speak into the app and it translates
it so the guy understands and we can communicate better.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
If there was such an app, would you be.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
In favor and would you be really promotive of this
particular app?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
You know what, I think it's a pretty solid punnis. Actually,
you know, it does borderline on like man's planing and
women's planning.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yes, a little bit, but hey, you know what, I
don't hate it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
It could be a good communication to it. Uh, you
know that's except the AI generator then for the women
saying I'm fine, it's gonna have to come up with
a lot of relations and honestly, I don't know if
AI is ready to come up with all of the
translations of what I'm fine means in so many settings.
So that's your first blitch, that's your first hurdle. You

(11:29):
got to overcome that.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's right, right, And also man's plating romy is when
a man explains to a well she a.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Man's plating, man's plating. See how that works?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh my god, I got my mom on that would
see mom by man's plating is when a man explains
to her and she was like, I could, I swear
I've never seen that level of anger pass over her
eyes at one.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Point, at one point in time talking with Robbie being
for Robbie, we'll get the game coming up against the
Colts this that's the biggest game in Denver since they're
run up to Super Bowl fifty for the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Because if you lose this game, the cults are one
behind you with the tiebreaker. Matter of fact, every wildcard
team in contention would own the tiebreaker on you, versuss
putting some distance in between and possibly positioning yourself to
not even be the last wild card, which gets you
ostensibly a more favorable matchup there in the opening round.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know what it is fun? Right now?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
We are at a place where each game feels like
it is the biggest game, right That's what everybody was.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Saying about Monday nights, and up to that point it
was the biggest game and you're right, that's Targeers game
that comes on Thursday night have massive implications, but it
doesn't matter if you don't beat the cult. So this
is the biggest game to this point.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
And what's really exciting about where the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Are at right now is that we go back to
all these previous seasons and it was just get a
winning season, just try and sneak into the playoffs. And now,
I mean, unless they're a colossal meltdown, this team is
in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Of course, you have to take care business. You got
to win games, and.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
So far this season, I think there is a lot
of scar.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Tissue with Broncos fans and Broncos country, and you know, seeing.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Things happen that you expect the meltdown to happen, and this.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Team doesn't do it.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
I thought in the Raiders game, he thought, Okay, I.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Know how this one's ending, right that Monday night game, Okay,
I have a feeling how this one's ending. And this
team has done the opposite and they have found ways
to win. And that's what I think makes this Colts
game really exciting because you have a lot of competence
that this team is going to show up to this game,
prepare that they're not going to overlook it. So they're
not going to be looking ahead to the Chargers game.

(13:42):
They understand the implications of it, and so you feel
like they're going to answer the bell. And so far
this season, this team has given me no reason to
believe that they're not going.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
To answer the bell because they have done it in
so many scenarios that.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
In years past they simply wouldn't have. And that's a
fun place to be. We haven't been there in a
very long time.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well, speaking of kind of answering the bell, let's talk
a little Nuggets really quickly. When we look at Nikola
yolkis constantly carrying this team. My biggest concern is because
he's doing so much heavy lifting, they're going to burn
him out when they need him the most, He's not
going to be there for them. When we look at

(14:23):
this Nuggets team and where they are performing right now,
do you have high expectations for them as the season
move on or should Nuggets fans start to somewhat Dare
I say lower the expectations?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Well, I think you make a great point, because the
conversation every year is we can't burn out Nikola Jokic,
you know this early in the season.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
This has been the conversation.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Year and and you're out where Michael alone says, I'd
like to pull Jokic, you know, during the fourth quarter more.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
But they just simply haven't run.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Away with enough games. And I mean, one hundred and
four points in twenty four hours is incredible. It is
incredible to watch. It's not what we should be seeing though,
right big picture, he shouldn't have that much task on
him game in and game out. And it's still the
same conversation, guys that we've been having for years, how
are they going to survive and non the cole of

(15:13):
minutes and so at the end of games, you know,
unless it's a runaway, can't have non the colon minutes.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
So it is a concern that once again.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Nicole Jokic is in the game so much.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
He is incredibly durable, but we've seen this sail before.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
So they really have to figure out. And the onus
is on Jamal Murray and it should be. He got
paid a lot of money and he is not performing
the way he should be performing. I would not be
opposed to putting Russell Westbrook in the starting lineup and
making Jamal reyear in those minutes a little bit. I think,
honestly that might do Jamal good. Like that'd be some
fire and we know he gets fired up by competition

(15:49):
like that. But Jamal has to step up. Jamal has
historically been a playoff player, but that just cannot be
the situation right now. Obviously he hasn't played the past
few games, but it is on him to carry a
much bigger load and he needs to. He has to
because you can't put this on Nicoliocauch again. Or it
is as you said, Mack, he's gonna get burnt out

(16:10):
and retired by the end of the season. And that's
not a recipe for success.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, it's not. Romy We appreciate the time as always.
You can get your own CBS for there, romy Bean.
And again we do appreciate the time as always.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Absolutely take care Roby Bean. We come back. We have
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
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Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
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With that, let's get to the NFL six pack. Time
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
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Speaker 7 (17:13):
What I heard you guys asking Romi about the Simpsons
All Cast.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well though that you've had.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
A chance to see it either maybe on your screens
or social media. Do you have an opinion on the
Simpsons All Cast?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know, I do not. I didn't watch any of it.
I haven't seen any of it.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'm sure I'll see the highlights of it on social
media as far as that kind of stuff goes.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I didn't care about the SpongeBob thing.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I tuned into the Nickelodeon one for the curiosity factor
back in the day, even the Manning one man like.
Don't get me wrong, I go back and I listen
to their conversations.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But when I'm watching the game, I really don't want to.
I want to watch a game. I don't need Peyton and.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Eli and uh the guy who played Deuce Bigelow, you know,
out there interrupting the game like it's like I just
rob Scheinder, like I wanted.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I just want to see the game. So I'm not
a big fan of the old cast. I don't know.
I've never talked to any kids. They're like, hey, it's.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Gonna make me watch football because they dressed it up
like the Simpsons, something I definitely don't watch anyway.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
So you know, it's like the Simpsons just cartoon for
old people.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Right, Well, I wouldn't say it's cartoon for old people been,
because Simpsons has been around for several years and they
are still inspiring a new generation.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
And was that your Simpson's voice? No, I mean I
can do one like, I don't know what that is either.
That was my Marge. I'll tell you, Zach.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
They showed it a little on one of the televisions here.
I thought it was a little yeah, sophistication you add
to a game, but I even has been. Do you
think that's something that would encourage a younger viewers who
look at football. I don't think that it does, but
I do like the part where you can watch a
game where you can you can they plan on Prime

(18:52):
and you can go into one of the features and
you can watch it like it's a.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Mad video game.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
I think that and going in that direction with technology
will kind of get more people to actually watch the
game than something like.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
With the sims. If you could do any old cast,
what would you what would you have?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
All you asking me? So I'm gonna say Star Wars.
You have a Star Wars one? Like it's like a
c G like an Ai James Earl Jones voice.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean that that's me. Well it's like Mike A.
Parson Sack and somebody I am your father? Exactly what
would you do? I don't know, man, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like I know I had the question complimenting myself on
the question, but I don't know. I think a family
Guy one would be funny, you know, going.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
At the refs.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
No, no, no, I can't go it can't do Family
Guy No, no, no, it's not for kids.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well I'm just saying like I don't I mean, I'm
trying to for the kid. I'm tholing you're talking about
for me, like for the kids. Oh man, I don't know,
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Honestly, I want like a I want like a Snoop
all cast like Noseball, but he's also funny.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Not not Snoopy but snoop dogg. Shoop dogg. Yeah, that's
not one for the kids. Know, it's not gonna be
love for the kids.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
That's got a nice little kids song popular right now. Yeah,
it's I'll pull it up for the next break or something.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (20:12):
Cadarius Tony played just two snaps on Sunday. The first
one saw him get a fifteen yard time team penalty
for throwing a football at Ben's Karnik.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
The second one saw him.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
Off a punt and have that punt get recovered by
Ben's Kronick on the Browns about twenty yard line. Is
this the last we've seen of Kadarius Tony in the NFL?
Will this be the last GAF he gets to make
Ben's Kirniic hopes not.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Be.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Karonic was making blazes off that dude all day. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I mean, Kidarius Tony's been a nightmare since he's been
in the league to whatever team that he's been on,
what is his third fourth team he's been on now,
and he.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Just can't get his head on straight. All you know,
guy's got the talent, guy's got a old talent the world.
We can't get his head on straight. I'd love to
see him go up there. Where's he right now? He's
with Browns.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I'd love to see him go to the Steelers because
Tomlin's got a, you know, as a history of getting
head cases like that to play to their potential.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Oh no, Ben No, I think the Steelers have had
enough because they've had Antonio.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Brown and Deontay Johnson.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
I mean, as skillful as Mike Tomlin is, as motivating.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Guys Tamas Bryant, he's not trying to go for the
tryfraxit No.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
I think listen, have the themes in with the Cleveland Browns.
I think we may be on the version of hearing
the last of Todars.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Sony y pixfl or whatever it is now probably three.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
Juan Soto has signed a massive deal, record breaking deal
with the New York Mets. You guys are talking about
buying a championship earlier. Is this enough to put the
Mets ahead of the Dodgers and Yankees sior estimation?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, first of all, we always celebrate whenever Yankees fans
are mad.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
We stand.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
We stand our hero Juan Soto for choosing the money
with another team in celebrating national irony. As far as
the Mets go, though, now, if they have no chance
of waiting to go to the New York Mets, they're
not gonna win. They're never gonna win. It's gonna be
an abject disaster. And there's sunk a bunch of money
into something else.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's not going up of one.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, I agree with Ben. This is just going to
be just a band aid, like on a gunshot one
for the Mets fans, because once again, when you think
about story tradition, you don't think Mets.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You think more of the Yankees. You think more of
the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
And I can't wait to Sodo go to you know,
the Yankee stadium and hear the fans boo him.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's gonna be amazing. Yeah, I mean, I definitely here
for that.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
But as far as the rest of it goes, I mean,
the Mets like and they've met's been throwing money at
it for a while.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
They still can't get it, can't get it together. So
you know, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'm not elevating them less. They the Met's still gonna
get to the Dodgers. And that's that's just an arms race.
That doesn't look like it because it's.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Great for Sodo. He's got the player.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I'm I'm just saying, like, for once, somebody passed on
the Yankees for the money, and that that tickles apart
of me.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
That's what's what you're happy about. Poor all right?

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Uh, Bill Belichick, you and C talk North Carolina. That
is talk has been heating up all week long. H
that those talks are reportedly going to reach their conclusion
later this week. Which way do you think is going
to go? And if you think he's going to be
the target heels head coach? Will he be successful in
shape will?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I don't think he'll be their coach.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I can't see Bill Belichick going to the college game
and succeeding. I do understand the whole I'm setting it
up for my son thing, and you know he'll be
the coaching waiting and all.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
That kind of stuff. But I Bill Belichick's not the
time to go the guy who's going to go glad
hand boosters. And that's what you know.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I head coach in the in college football, you're that guy.
You're the face of the program, the guy's gladhead and
recruits and boosters trying to cozy up to him.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
He gets he come to your bro.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Can you imagine Bill Belichick trying to re recruit his
own rock. Yeah, I know, I know I was parcelsing
you all year, but turn over.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
New lead guys. Come on back. We'll top off a
little bit more money on your nil deals and through
your job.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Well, you giving him Bill Belichick a lot more credit
than I would actually give him, because he's not going
to recruit the same guys. If those guys feel as
though they want to leave, he's going to show them
the door and give him his warm foot to help
give them a boost outside the door. But when I
think about Bill Belichick and where he is from, an
old school type of coach, that type of philosophy wants

(24:32):
work in the NFL, and it doesn't work anymore, even
though some coaches still employed. But on the collegiate level,
that's not going to work because you're trying to cater
to young athletes anywhere from eighteen to twenty two. They're
not going to be filling with Belichick tell you well,
and they're not even Teli chick doesn't have the pulsive use. Yes,

(24:53):
and we talk about translator app. He's gonna definitely need
a translator app to talk to some of the new
kids that will play, you know, football.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Now, you only Bill can have that conversation about the
new Drizzy. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
No.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Five.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
All right, see you and BYU are primed to square
off in the Alamobile this year. Do you think this
is a disappointing draw for the CU Buffs? And who
do you think whin's the game?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Absolutely nobody wants to see a regular season rematch at
a meetingless bowl game. If you're gonna give us an
exhibition game, which is what the bulls outside of the
college playoffs are now, then you don't want a rematch
of something that happens during the season.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You don't want a conference you don't want a conference opponent.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
That's that's silly, it's stupid, and I don't understand why
they would do that to me.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
That was that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's definitely disappointing, dumb matchup, and I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't know why you would do this.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
I would agree with you because when we look at
these Bowl games, obviously you look for fan bases that travel,
and you always look for my key matchups. Something you
could say, well, did you who did you play in
the bowl game? And did you be You're out of
conference rival, and right now with this matchup is not
really giving us much because I mean, we could have

(26:09):
seen this in the big world matchup. I mean, if
you see you had meat, you know, Kansas State, I mean,
excuse me, Kansas, But I don't really want to see it,
but I will watch it for the.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Purpose of seeing it.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Both Shador and Travis Hunter both playing in this game.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Six all right, we saw yesterday Josh Allen played an
incredible game for the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I fear I might be re sparking the Heisman debate here.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
But had an incredible game for the Buffalo Bills six
total touchdowns, but the Bills still lost. Do you think
that incredible performance helped Josh Allen's MVP case or do
you think it ultimately hurt his case because the Bill's lost.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I think helped.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean the first ball, the performance was historic, and
the fact that you put up an historic performance as
a quarterback like that, and your defense, by the way,
you're run by a defensive minded head coach, is unable
to do anything to stop the rams. Yeah, I gotta
say I think that helped his candidacy. I think if
you're looking at MVP this year, I think you got

(27:12):
three guys that are probably in that running maybe four,
Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley, Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Maybe you're putting Joe Burra in there. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I mean, you know he's got no defensive help, but
he's certainly putting the offense pedal to the metal this season.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
What's say your nick?

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Well for me, you know, when you look at Saquon barcol,
I'm glads you brought him up. He's having a monster
year within the self. But we know how the NFL works.
In order to keep the machine moving, you have to
grease the injurines with the quarterback talk. And it was
a magnificent performance by Josh Allen. You throw forward three
touchdowns and you rushed for another three. So yes, you

(27:48):
see the leading guy right now in the clubhouse when
it comes to.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
The MVP, Alps freakolutely.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
But here's a problem for Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills.
While Josh is actually performing at that particular rate, it
is not going to be enough. In my opinion, I
will stand corrected if it changes for him to get
to New Orleans and play in the Super Bowl. There's
still much to be desired from this Buffalo Bills team.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think end of the day, Josh
has got the stats for the MVP and all that
kind of stuff. I think he's got the personal the
numbers put up, and when you look at that Bills team,
it's not exactly like he's doing it with world beaters
surrounded him, you know. I mean, she's elevating the guys
around him that said you gotta win. I mean, the

(28:33):
MVP award has become the quarterback of the winning team
in the NFL, which is what I was trying to
rail against with the Heisman vote.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know earlier that the winnings team's quarterback just gets
in there. I hate that. I hate that that's the
way that the order.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But Josh also has the stats this year, and so
if they're not the winning team. I kind of wonder,
you know, when it comes down to the AFC we
get the the AFC Championship Game, if it's Baltimore and
Kansas City. Did Josh Allen get shut out on MVP
despite having the numbers?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Well, for me, when I look at Josh Allen and
the Bills, I mean when you look at just rushing,
I mean he led the team in rushing. It's one
of the reasons why when we look at fantasy football,
I would never pick up a Bill's running back as
long as Josh Allen is a quarterback because I know
once they get inside the red zone, their running back

(29:21):
slash quarterback is going.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
To take over and he's going to score.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
And for me, when I look at this situation, it's
great to say that you score forty two points.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's great to.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Say Josh Allen threw for three touchdowns and he rushed
for three, But I'm looking at, well, where's the incorporation
of everyone else within the team. I mean, he did
have some ball distribution with his wide receivers. But once again,
Josh Allen cannot win the Super Bowl by himself. And
I know we always talk about players and strong will.

(29:48):
I like the fact of what he's able to do
as a player independently, just skill set wise, but he's
not going to be the catalyst to them getting there
and winning it all by himself. He's got to lean
on his team, and I get it. Sometimes you got
to embrace the Kobe mentality and take over. But I mean,

(30:10):
for me, I don't know, Ben, you tell me what
you think. I just I just look at it and said, well,
great performance, but man, you're gonna need to do more
than that and kind of win these games down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Allen the third through thirteen games has three thousand and
thirty three yards twenty three touchdowns to five interceptions, and
then on the ground another eighty cawries for four hundred
and sixteen yards another nine touchdowns there.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
James Cook does have more yardage and touchdowns on.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
The season, but not my whole lot and certainly not
where you'd want a primary running back to be.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Josh Allen running the ball as much. Is this gonna
truncate his career similar to what happened to Cam Newton.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Well, it all depends on the level of shots he's taken, right,
because that's a big thing because unlike Trevor Lawrence, man,
you run and get your yards, get.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
On the ground.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
You know the defenders are coming, they're hunting you. They
don't put yourself in harm's way and force the fish
shoes to make somewhat of a judgment call. But Josh Allen, man,
that's just who he is. He's gonna take the ball
inside the red zone and he's going to try to
make it play. Even that means that he's jumping and
diving over guys. He's gonna make that play. But I
think it's going to shorten his career if he does

(31:17):
not learn, hey, man, take what the defense giving me
and get the hell on the ground.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, And that's that's sint of the thing.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I mean, Cam, you know, got to the point where
the shots and and the number of carries that he
had just just finally took their toll and and you know,
and and of course he had that car accident with
his back as well. But he's just that's one of
those things I wonder like Josh Allen, that's who he
compares most favorably to. If you want to know who
he compares to, if you compare him to a historic quarterback.

(31:44):
That's the guy he compares to, you know, the big guy,
tough to bring down, cannon arm h and runs the
ball and we'll run the ball on you. And you know,
I think Cam and his prime was was probably a
better athlete. But it's the same token. I mean, that's
that's what it is. So if you're Buffalo, you got
to find a way to protect the wear and tear
on Josh Allen because as you're looking at this year

(32:06):
over year, it's getting into that territory in terms of
the number of hits you're taken.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Well, the one thing we do know, the hints on quarterback,
they are accumulative and you may not feel them now,
you feel them later. As a guy that played ten
years in this league, I can tell you that what
didn't bother me ten years ago, now.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I got a roommate I can't get rid of.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Right, So the same thing should be the mindset for
Josh Allen. But being able to lean on your other
teammates that's going to be very vital for him because
if he gets injured down the stretch, everything that he's
worked for, the Bills being you know where they are
from a standing standpoint, him throwing for three touchdowns and

(32:49):
rushing all that sensation of stuff, it all goes away
because now you give Kansas City an opportunity to leap
frog you.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yet again, you do believe Josh should be the MVP conversation.
Of course he should be in a coup suit. His
rushing touchdowns be counted? Should does Russian touchdowns be counted? No,
Texter almost has a year.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I was seven to one four, says Nick doesn't believe
Josh's rushing touchdown should count says they don't for college quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I thought we were going to catch you on that one. Nope,
should be absolutely, should be counted. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And by the way, in defense of Bryson Daily, go
back and look at Heisman winner Eric Crouch's Heisman winner
Eric Crouch's numbers during his high and compare those to
Bryson Dailies today. Bryce and smokes him in every category. Okay,
he might smoke him in every carry category.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
But how much did Eric Cruch winning the Heisman actually
carry forward for him?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's not about but who cares about that? It's about the.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Most when he cared for Charlie Ward's.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Career, Well, Charlotte was better than both of those guys.
Let's be totally honest. I mean, Charlie Joe's basketball playing
with the Knicks over football, which.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And I ain't mad at it because he guaranteed money
and more.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Of course, move on. I'm just saying, I mean, like
it's you know, I mean, you go back and you
look at uh at Heisman winners.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
And some of that stuff doesn't carry over. Pete Dawkins
didn't even didn't even enter the NFL draft. He wouldn't
go see he went to serve his country. Hey, it's
another winner for army. I'm just saying, he listen, man,
you have an army. There there is a product. Did
the Heisman helped push Winky out?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
We didn't, all right, did? I never thought Aboutretta?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I did think Winky was a great quarterback anyway, What
about Gino Torretta? I mean no, no, Andre Ware, no, no, no,
and no

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Just saying Froncos country name becking this
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