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December 9, 2024 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five six six on zero.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
He's the text line.

Speaker 3 (00:01):
I promised you guys a mystery guest earlier in the
show to go right as the Kay Common Spirit health
hotline and bring that mystery guest on. And no, it's
not Rick Lewis, despite that being a recurring bit on
the show. It is for brock Hillis, player part of
the No Flies Zone himself. Mister TJ Ward, TJ? How
you doing this evening?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm great? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Doing pretty well?

Speaker 4 (00:23):
TJ?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Secretly one of my my favorite players. I kept career.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I kept eye on career of all players that had
the same birthday, I did the twelve twelve birthday. So
since we're both celebrating a birthday, yeah, we're both celebrating
a birthday this week.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Happy early birthday. Will Gains got you and me?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I think we got We got von Bellen there, Andrew Whitworth,
Alf Marris. We don't.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
We don't count my Glennon even though he's in there
with this. We don't count him.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, man, I didn't know that early birthday man a day.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, happy early birthday to you. It's a wait.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Team.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
They don't fall for that. Ben is trying to bother
you up.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
He's on.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Hey man, it's all right, man, bubble me up.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Answer biscuit right now.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Let me tell you what Ben was sitting here saying,
we were talking about the Heisman racing who should be
in that mix? He brought up Bryson Daily from Army
and say, Bryson Daily deserves to be in New York
for the Heisman over Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'll stop there and I'll let you pick it up.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
You know, you know what that kid is balling. I
wouldn't put him over Dylan.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
But he's the second one if you ask me, because
I watched him play a few games and the way
that office is lined and in the plays they called
for him, and the running back is enjoying to watch.
I enjoy watching the Army game.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Too, and I played.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
So I play the n cua A video games and
I'm like milking the clock and running the flex bone
or whatever. And Nick I send him screenshots of month,
like the finish game, because.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Like, I'll on the ball sixty times, I'll throw a four.
And I said, and he's like, you're setting football back
fifty years. He gets so mad at me for this.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Man, I love running the ball but you get deep
in the playoffs if you run the ball and play defense.
All that passing is cute for the regular season, but
when this man gets mad and you need to move
a man, and you got to be trained to do that,
and you can't just pop in when you need it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You ain't a stake nobody.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
No, TJ is saying that because TJ is a fellow
safety and he loves and he lives for contact. So
he wants the nine on seven games.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's why he's saying that. Any way, I don't take it.
I'll take the LAS anywhere I can get him on
this one.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
This is.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I just know that football at his core is moving
again a man against his will. Now, all this passing
and wide open screens, it looks good, it looks good,
But look who's winning in the NFL. If you can't
run the ball, if you're defense is not out the front,

(03:02):
you're a readily it looks cute. It looks cute, Cam Newton,
they look cute, right, even when the Chiefs wins, they
run the ball.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Potaiko is a player. Is you have c J.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Anderson when we won, you know he was him and Ronnie.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was total So it is what it is. Football is
not hard.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I've been saying that forever. If you can't run the
ball and play defense, you won't be successful.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, that brings me to an interesting point because when
we look at the Broncos as constructed right now, the
run game has been the weakest part of what it
is that they've done. And you know, the offense in
the last game finally showed a propensity to carry the
defense a little bit uh in a game for once,
although the defense didn't get two pick sixers in that
game against the Browns.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It has been a team that has largely been led
by the defense.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
But the passing offense or the legs of the quarterback
and not really the running back. Are the Broncos going
to be able to sustain that down the stretch?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
You know what all all running game is screens. So
that's what we're doing to implement, you know, short passing screens,
getting the ball in.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
The guy's hands quitch. And then of course you got
Sudden and.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Some of the other guys doing playing well down the
field like great and bo. You know he's managing everything
and keeping it on coin and sharp.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
But I think a way for us.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
To run the ball is doing the short screens and
keeping the defense on balance.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
What do you think when you hear the comparison to
the no fly zone, so the current Broncos secondary, what's
kind of the first thoughts to come to your mind
when you hear that comparison?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Is it fair? Is it fair? I really call it
fair or unfair? But it is refreshing. I mean, is
they're playing well?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
So you know, we all know that, you know, our
defense is one of a kind, one of them in
generational defense. But to you know, say that they're playing
at a high level and even mention them with us, man,
that's a great thing for them.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I wouldn't be.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Like in it negatively, but I definitely be taking a
positive like, Okay, we're working towards being great and you
just got to look at it.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Like that Broncos Riley Moss out last game, probably out
the next game or two as well with an injury.
When you guys post played the safety position, But what
you mean when you had a corner out and you
had fresh blood in there at the corner, does that
make your job more difficult as a safety?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It came include that back in the corner, you guys.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
God, you really, when you're out there, you're not really
thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
You're thinking, you know, my guy's gonna come in and
he's gonna hold it on.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Uh. We all practice together, we do the same drills,
we run the same defense, we communicate the same way.
So yeah, he's just gonna be a little it should
be a little chill in, just based off of.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You got started and who you got backing them up.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
But at the end of the day, you're not out
there really thinking that about that. But you expect him
to hold the line right, hold the line of what
the expectation of the starting defense is and he should
be able to expectations for it.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
So now, obviously this past weekend we had a lot
of conferences wrap up their title games, and I was
telling Ben when it comes to Dylan, Gabriel and Oregon,
I thought that was a massive feat going from the
PAC twelve to the Big Ten and winn a whole
damn thing. When you look at it, do you think
that people have undermined the ability of organ and the

(06:37):
PAC twelve all together and just kind of by dismissing
them talking about the Big ten and SEC conferences.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, man, the packed the Pac twelve, PAC ten.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
We've been getting so much disrespect through decades and it's
a little frustrating.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You know, we played great ball here in the West Coast.
We got the greatest football players in the world if you.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Ask me, and we just don't get that recognition. We
don't get that benefit of a doubt, maybe because we're
not as invested in the sport as you know some
of those states down south in the SEC and so forth,
where you know in Alabama or some.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Parts of Georgia, Arkansas, there's nothing to do but go
to football games. So you're spending your your paycheck on
everything surrounding that university, that school, that football program. You know,
most of your extracurricular goes into being a football fan.
And that's just not the same on the West Coast.
So the dollars, I feel, aren't there. And where the dollars,

(07:35):
where the dollars aren't then you know it so goesy.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
But as far as talent and quality of ball, and
you've seen it, you know, we won the Big Ten
and I still say week as packed in school, and
we won the Big twelve where Arizona State and then Colorado,
which was getting manhandled in the pack comes and almost
makes the playoffs in the Big twelve. So you take
schools like Boys who had been more times in schools,

(08:03):
most of the schools in the SEC, and you know,
the brand of West Coast football is a great grand
at football. It's just he's undervalue for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I agree, and I think you know we're talking about TJ.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Ward. The PAC twelve has been under value in the
last couple years. One of the things I will say though,
is that a lot of times when when schools do
switch conferences, they do have a lot of success in
that first year.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
The question is whether or they can sustain it.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Missouri came into the SEC and had instant success before
falling off. So I come from SEC country, you know,
I come from down there in Arketsas. I know exactly
that you're preaching gospel there. There's nothing else to do
but watch football.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's it was funny because moving out here to Colorado,
you know, I'm looking around at the high school football,
I like, where's the stadium.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know, I come from a town of five thousand.
We got a stadium that sees ten thousand, and the
whole town shots down to watch football.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, You got a patch of grass out here with
two uprights and you're calling it a football field.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Right, Yeah, that is the truth. Ease of the stadiums
just like what.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Un college or what?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, no middle school.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, that's the thing. We got high schools down there.
The people are thinking they're they're collegiate stadiums. As we
look at the future of college football, NIL has factored heavily.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
What do you think of the NIL era of college
football thus far?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, I'm kind of invested in it more than a fan,
right because I got an agency in the NIL company,
So that's what I'm doing right now post retirement, so
I'm really.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
On the inside.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I like it because it's spreading the talent out across
the country and we're seeing better football at a higher rate.
You know, the teams that weren't so good or didn't
have the infrastructure or the money are now becoming better.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
And guys that were sitting.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Down at some schools collecting the check and riding the
pine and are really talent. They're like, no, I can
get money somewhere else and play maybe not for a
big of a brand, but I'm on the field and
I'm contributing. So so I think it's made the game
on the field better. Now, behind the scenes, they have.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
Some work to do with the transferring and just guys
moving and shaking at any time and any point, and
I think they need a standard bargaining kind of something
that everyone.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Goes by because right now it's just the wild wild West.
You can sign a guy for a pack of now
leaders if you want to. So it's different like that.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
But on the field, I love it.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I love it. Well, tell us about your NIL company
and how you guys kind of work with some of
these athletes and try to get them in better lucrat
their tradition positions for their career.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, absolutely, well with a company I started is called
Player Above Sports Group and yeah, basically weird management for
agency representation, So handling guys from high school through college
into the pros and like you said, just trying to
put a better form of navigation on their screen. And
I know, let them know that I've pretty much done

(11:02):
anything you can do in this league and through college,
and I'm here to help you push your vest, look
forward and.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Maximize up with potential.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, on that line, what is the biggest stumbling block
for you on in your side of the house, the
repping the players in the place, because we hear all
the time from school officials and coaches what the bigges
stumbling blocks on their side of the house is.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
But uh, with with you guys, what is the.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Biggest stumbling block and what are the areas you'd like
to see cleaned up?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's oude, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I think there's just so many agencies and represent representatives
out there, and you know, sometimes.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
There's false representation.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
You've got guys calling on behalf of clients that aren't theirs.
It's trying to fill it out and it's kind of
bringing it back to the nil is so.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
New, it's so freshly, no.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Perfect way to police it right now, and it's just
they're trying to get a handle on it. But I
say that just you know, false flag and false representation
and going after guys that are really yours.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Hip, so so regulation of the of the people trying
to do the representation. Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Whoa, that's a great TJ war and TJ man, you know,
send me that information so I can go ahead and
share that with our followers, so we can put that
information out there about what you're doing with the NIO
company as always, I love you coming on.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I love the way that you play.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
You played at a high level that was very physical,
which they don't allow us to do now in the
NFL because I think if I, either you and myself.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Played, we would make no money in this league at all.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
But I enjoy watching you in your post career and
thank you for giving us some of your time.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Appreciate it, man, there's always good scene there.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, we appreciate you, TJ. And we'll try to convince
this Nick Fergus to start running the football some more. Okay, okay,
bro take care of TJ. Ward Boss war forty three
on Twitter, member of the No Fly Zone and agrees
with me about running the That's all I took away
from this.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
That'sn't all I took away from this.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
That's all agrees with me. He all that sound bye
over and over every time. This could be dunking it
over and over again.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I can talk it.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
The only reason he really agree with you because he's
a physical safety and what that means is more work
for him if teams are running the bay.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I ain't mad at it.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I don't I don't care how I get my allies
as lug as I got him.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
I hit a break.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
We come back and get a little more into that
and react to that interview. Yous to Broncos Country Night
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